8-Hour Drive...for a 5-MINUTE Diag??
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- The owner is desperate to get his GMC Sierra work truck back on the road after shooting the parts cannon at it for 3 MONTHS!!
I drove 8 HOURS round-trip to perform the diagnosis...
Enjoy!
Ivan
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I've learned SO much about grounding issues between you and Eric O.
Keep up the great diagnostic work!
Ivan, Eric O and Car Wizard are true legends !
@@matt9c1 Ivan and Eric O are the two I watch as well. They are magic around vehicles. Car Wizard gets on my nerves.
they are the best
Common issue in the salty states of America 😅
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics No truer words ever spoken Ivan!
Guys like Ivan are treasures. He makes diagnostics look easy because he knows where to start and how to finish.
Will there be a 5 minute video on that exhaust leak?
I'll send him up to Eric O for that 😉 He's the manifold guru!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics perfect job for Big Nasty!
Parts Cannon technique, throw a Muffler at it.
Hard to believe an LS engine would have a broken exhaust manifold bolt! And I’m a GM guy!! 😃
@@red7fifty Headers, cat delete and a pair of black widow neighborhaters...
It's my day off, I always look forward to these early morning posts. ☕👊🏼
Dude. I am a Field Engineer for an auto manufacturer. I have flown accross country for what ends up being quick diags. There is a saying some of us have. "This job is 80/20. 80% of the time it's 20 minutes or less". Hey, it happens. Sometimes all they need is a fresh pair of eyes.
I know that other 20% can sometimes make up for it though. Many years ago I was a tech at a dealership, had a car that completely stumped me. Spent many many hours on the phone with the technician assistance line at the manufacturer, but to no avail. They were stumped too. The car kept frying the fusible link in the battery positive cable for seemingly no reason whatsoever. They ended up sending a field engineer out to take a look. Guy spent 3 full days checking and rechecking everything I had already checked and rechecked. Then he left and a few days later the manufacturer bought the car back as a lemon due to it having been out of service for nearly 4 months and not even the engineers could figure the thing out. In over 15 years wrenching, it is the only car that has ever defeated me :-(
@@catfishbilly7425 Damn, just goes to show, sometimes the machine does win!
so your saying the high amount of a complete lack of skill and experience in automotive repair industry, isn't limited to a few shops here and there but many?
I'd say you aren't far off. Not too long ago I had to deal with an intermittent engine light on a brand new (less than 3k miles) 2021 chevy trailblazer. We ended up having to have a gm field tech visit and it took 3 weeks to come to a final decision (which luckily fixed it, as far as I know).
Maybe a month or so after, another tech at the dealer had an identical car that he spent probably two weeks off and on with no communication with several modules. Same field tech stopped by and in less than 30 minutes narrowed it down to the onstar module overloading the communication enable circuit and preventing those modules from powering on.
@@zackschwenzer4892 Better training is needed for dealership techs.
Well done ivan
As a retired gm tech its a plus to see credible techs still within the service industry.
Ivan, Great Job. Your reward for the 8 hours of driving was the smile of joy from the owner. I am in the fleet management business for the past 25 years and have fleet vehicles repaired all over the country using dealers, fleet repair accounts and independent garages. I have always had my go-to repair people when all others failed to repair the vehicle after using the parts cannon. I truly feel sorry for anyone having to spend lots of money and waste loads of time trying to get their vehicle fixed, especially one they need for business. You made my day Ivan for helping out a person that really needed their truck fixed. My son graduated from Penn State and I live in Pennsylvania. Love to meet you some day since you are definitely a "Go-To" repair guy. Best to you anyways!
Back in your days were the easy days. Now you have to deal with ADAS, DOD, VVT, PATS that all go back to powertrain management. It is not as simple as a misfire, now cars want perfection or they start deactivating injectors/coils, etc.
It does help a lot if you seen a similar problem on the same type of car. The parts cannon was an expensive one!
Expensive indeed and if the replacements are of the cheap variety, they might even make the truck less reliable. Not all new parts are good parts. Hopefully the owner didn't buy the cheap stuff.
Even if that was Ivan's first time seeing this issue, once he checked for spark, he would have ended up in the same place. Maybe not as quick, but it would have not been much longer.
This shows the importance of having access to the wiring schematic. Most electrical issues with vehicles now requires the use of them pretty much. This is why shops have to charge diagnostic time because you have to dig out the wiring diagram and narrow the problem down before touching anything on the vehicle. That ground is located in a not so great spot Ivan, seems like a lot of road salt would spray up there.
Wanting the wiring diagram and knowing what to do with it are prerequisites to having "access" to one. These guys' understanding of wiring stops after hooking up jumper cables.
@@hightttech DEAD ON, You also have to know WHAT IN THE HELL YOU'RE LOOKING AT & UNDERSTANDING THEM, LIKE READING BLUE PRINTS.
You can get wiring diagrams for your car for a fee, no where near what Ivan pays but it's only for your specific vehicle or vehicles. Some sites also have them for free but not many & it's hard to find your vehicle, if they even have it ?
I think States that use SALT ON OUR ROADS SHOULD PAY TO HAVE OUR VEHICLES UNDERCOATED. BUT LMAO, THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN BUT THEY REALLY ARE THE CAUSE FOR OUR VEHICLES RUSTING TO HELL, FACT.
Not many car companies want you to know where Z1 is located so they don't put it in the book .........Had this problem on my POS Jeep
Getting wiring diagrams is cheap & easy - All Data is $20/yr per vehicle. If someone things that's too much, they probably should lease a new car.....
Ivan, you just have that instinct! That my friend cannot be learned.
Yeah, it's called common sense.
Common sense and then some. Muy sweet ivan time for Russian caviar
Experience definitely plays a huge role in improving speed and accuracy. My friend Keith at New Level Auto is the master of the "6th sense" 😉
I'd die before admitting that I had fired that parts cannon load. Holy hell. Well done Ivan. Thanks!
Test don't guess. Powers and grounds. New parts installed probably not as good as original parts. Good job.
5 Minute diag?, Knowledge is power, It was quick because you are a MASTER technician Ivan, mad RESPECT for your work brother, thank you for sharing all your wisdom with us!
Hey Daniel, thanks for the kind words. The key in this field is to stay humble and think outside the box :)
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics this industry needs more people like you and Eric O.
Ivan, Appreciate these infrequent easy fixes; they sure beat the head scratcher cases any day !
It's nice to have both 👍
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I'll take the easy ones if you don't mind ... 😂🤣😂
I just fixed a Yukon with the EXACT same issue! This one had been sitting a month, and the customer had the entire column and dash trim torn off and sitting in a pile in the front seat. Looked like he'd been testing everything and threw in the towel. Only difference between your truck here and this one was, I couldn't locate that ground, since I don't have a subscription to any service info. I knew from watching videos it was somewhere behind the p/s pump, but it looked to me to be more trouble than it was worth to try and reach. I just spliced a wire from the ground in that gray plug, to the firewall ground where the left head ground strap resides. Fixed! Customer was stoked!
I had a couple codes before the fix - one for class 2 comm failure, and the other was for a mode master input mismatch. He ALSO had a parasitic draw! Once I installed that ground wire, none of the codes came back, and the parasitic draw was GONE! Interesting! That lack of ground must've kept a module or 2 awake.
BBB used to provide free wiring diagrams. They've since stopped. I've been hunting the net for free diagrams ever since.
Check your yahoo mail for a possible assist.
@@Blazer02LS Thanks brother! Just replied. 👍🍻
Some public libraries have free online access to shop manuals and/or wiring diagrams. If yours doesn't, ask the librarian if their library can get access to that information for you. If nobody asks a library for a particular service, they're probably not going to provide it.
@@venomx4093 Like I said, a year's subscription of Mitchel Diagrams for $29.95. Great deal.
GMT800 intermittent parasitic draw? Yeah it's tin whiskers on the back of the cluster PCB, I think we all know that at this point. Since the steppers all seem to work it makes me wonder if it was already rebuilt and someone did a poor job on it. Leadfree solder is a scourge!
Omg you are so beautiful and you seem to know cars..😍
@A. Melbs There was a design flaw in the steppers used in the 99-07 clusters which caused them to all fail quickly. Yours sounds more like the oil/grease has gone bad inside? Replacement steppers should be readily available if you are handy with a solder-sucker and careful. If your vehicle is a GMT400 though (full size truck) beware removing the trim panel around the dash. They all crack in the middle, right above the steering wheel...assuming the right hand drive bezel is made of the same brittle material.
I learned about how tin whiskers grow about 20 yrs. ago, I think I read it somewhere from the Apollo missions.
@@larrymunday7519 The Apollo guidance computers used wire wrap, not solder, and then the whole thing was encased in resin. Wire wrap was considered more reliable because it can't crack as easily. The AGC is every electronics nerd's favorite subject! :)
@@jessicav2031 I did not know that! I used wire wrap on Rex Roth amplifier cards back in the day. 0-10v input to 0-24v output.
Another great diagnosis Ivan! Indeed having access to wiring diagrams are time savers. I bet if you put the original/old parts back on, that the truck would still fire right up after fixing the ground wire for the ignition coils. Cheers!
On a great note, that ground could be easily wired for a anti theft item. Nice.
it's already fully integrated automatic anti-theft.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Easier to isolate the power to the fuel injectors. Ground can 'find' other grounds, e.g. through the ECM or water/corrosion. That's why relays are used on the positive side (high side switching) in vehicles with very few exceptions.
My mechanic of 15 years just shut down his business and retired. I am so bummed. This guy had awesome diagnostic skills.
I don’t know what I am going to do. It is so hard to find someone with great diagnostic skills who also runs an honest shop.
Ask your retired mechanic for a referral, or find out if he is doing private jobs at home - retirement is an empty promise, if you don't have anything to keep you busy.
Time to learn for yourself
Totally right on the "honest shop" comment. It is SOOO easy to rip off the customers. They haven't a clue. I didn't either until I found Ivan and Eric O. Bought a few little pieces of test equipment - learned the CAN Bus system, and got to work. My USAF Aircraft Avionics experience really helped also.
Wow, 5 minute diag!! For 8 hour trip?? That's dedication! Client is willing to pay good money for great diag!!! Common problem with 5.3s with bad ground in rust belt!! It has to have good connection in every thing to make it sleep so no more parasitic draws! Great job Ivan!! You got a new client for life :)
Had a similar situation on my GMT800 Suburban but with slightly different symptoms. Out of nowhere it became a crank no-start and all kinds of other weird stuff started happening - turn indicators on dash lit all the time, exterior lighting went nuts, Service 4WD message. I knew it had to be a ground problem but there were a few layers to the onion - someone had relocated the battery frame ground to the body, so apparently the only ground for the frame was being provided by the front lightning harness! The light ground was at G100 where it belonged, but its eyelet broke off as soon as I touched it, confirming my suspicion.
After cleaning up G100, moving the battery cable back there where it belonged, and re-terminating the light harness ground, everything went back to normal. Had this happened before I discovered UA-camrs like Ivan and Eric O I might've ended up in a parts-cannon nightmare of my own, but instead my total cost was a few cents for an eyelet & some sandpaper, plus maybe 1/2 hour of my time. This is a rebuilt-title vehicle so it wasn't the first time I'd encountered some "creative" wiring... probably won't be the last either.
Another great place for hack wiring is the trailer light plug....and also a very common place that people just wire shit however they feel like because that's how their trailer is wired, because well....they don't have any clue what they're doing they start cobbling wiring together so it works for them...then they hook onto someone else's trailer that's wired properly and claim their trailer wiring is crap because it don't work on their pile of trash pickup...ran into this a lot while doing trailer repairs....people don't bother to look up the way stuff is supposed to be wired, they drag their trailer light pigtail on the ground for hundreds of miles then proceed to just hack it back together however they feel, that doesn't work so they tear into the trailer light receptacle on their tow vehicle because that must be wired wrong LOL.
Hello from England brilliant diagnosis and the look on the guys face when you got it running with a bit of wire priceless 👍
4:08 -- The customer's shoulders slumped. You could almost hear him thinking, "I feel like such a fool."
This is a great example of knowing and checking the fundamentals. Great work!!!
Nice, Ivan! The parts canon was probably fired by a mechanic that doesn't use normal tools but just his smell, taste and hearing :)
7 min. video and we still get "Bonus Footage ". Lol.
Great work Ivan.
😁👍
I enjoy watching your videos. Sometimes makes me think about going back to work. 50+ years fixing peoples transportation. I love a good challenge. Only I don't work for other anymore. If the word got out I back, I be swapped. No time for that now, I building my house, want to be done by the time I'm 80. So from now on, I'll just watch you and SMA. Every now and then I see something new. It is good for my brain, learning keeps us young. Thank you for your videos. ps I've never driven that far to help some one, I am proud of you.
Great Job Ivan! Merry Christmas to you and your family!
Ur channel is better than any automotive electrical class. You are crazy good WOW
I owned a old Toyota Corolla that had an electrical issue draining battery and kill alternators. Found A guy like this and guy had it fix in 5 minutes no charge. Love these videos
Very fast troubleshooting skills Ivan, no wonder you are in demand. Good content good video. Take care thanks 😊
Wow that was fast! Took way longer to get there and back than the actual repair. I hope you charged a mileage fee. Great job as always Ivan. I turned one of my co-workers on to your channel, now he comes up to me and says "did you see the latest Pine Hollow video on XXXX?" You have yet another happy subscriber.
I would have charged 8h plus 1h of diagnosis and repair
at least a dollar a mile traveled
Thanks Ivan. 5 minute diag applies only because you know what you are doing! Great job
Hey Ivan. Man you are awesome. I love you troubleshooting skills. I was a auto mechanic for 40 years. Thank you for your videos.
Watching your channel makes me wonder how so many cars start every day. We're all just one busted tiny ground wire away from having a 3000 pound paperweight on our driveway.
@T.J. Kong Any time I fix wiring I add an outer layer of adhesive backed shrink tubing, the US Navy uses that stuff for a reason.
Many vehicles in the area I live in have all sorts of hack wiring jobs on them, because shade tree mechanic radio guru decides to install a new stereo, amp, speakers, etc. Rather than wiring things in the right way, you end up with another mile of hacked up wiring installed without any sort of circuit protection right to the battery. You see these cars all the time in pick a part yards burned to a crisp LOL.
@T.J. Kong
Exactly what we should do twice a year, bring your wagon to the shop for a look over..
As you are sporting a T shirt in December I'm guessing you drove 4 hours south?! Genius Ivan, well done! Hope the customer kept the old parts so he can at least return or keep as spares!
It was a warm day last month further South. Next week is going to be 50s and 60s here so t-shirt weather again!
@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics I know, I'm in Bedford County. May actually take my convertible out for a drive, usually unheard of in December!
Thanks Ivan great video, again!
South main just had a video on this as well. I am going to check my 05 tahoe now! Before it fails.
Ivan,
Great video and diag - thank you! I cant believe they put all those parts on when it was just a bag ignition ground. That's where your experience and expertise is so valuable.
Paul (in MA)
i think you just fixed my problem with mine . it would stall occasionally usually while idling . checked the ground wire you shown and mine came off the connection real easy ..i think is was broke and making just enough contact to work or kind of ... put on new ground wire hasn't stalled yet . thanks for the tip !!!
This is the result of what happens when you have a critical thinking superior intellect individual combined with the proper diagnostic tools. Ivan should be the gold standard for repair techs. Bravo sir!
This is the 1st video i have seen on your channel. I was so impressed....thank you. Earned a sub 😊
Your client must have been so happy, that he gave you a healthy tip, well I hope so anyway very impressive diagnostic skills,
Godspeed from Washington State
Just found your channel. I'm not a mechanic at all but you are a magician and I just keep watching
Welcome to the show! 🙂
This is why people should pay for diag. Great job!
As usual, a great job and repair. How come my town does not have any Pine Hollow Auto guys to help us? Just dealers and questionable independent shops. We need someone we can trust like Pine Hollow customers have.
Ivan, I'm a "Technical Test" guy. I call myself that. I'm an "Electronics Engineer - Electronics Test Tech". I've been into testing inputs/outputs of electronics stuff and equipment's since High School, then Through the NAVY, then thru Bell Labs, Western Electric, AT&T, IBM, Medical Equipment, High End Audio amps, blah-blah and some automotive. I've always refrained from "TEST LAMPS" technology troubleshooting.
I'm a signal generator, scope, DVM, kind of guy. When I see you using a "TEST LAMP" and you're looking for grounds on a 12V system, I squinch my eyes thinking that you are about to connect a 12V source possibly to the output side of a semiconductor "driver" that could be tapped off the emitter (for power) and that could have the ability to destroy the base/emitter (just basics theory) junction. All these semiconductor junctions are related to micro-volts/volts and tossing a 12V 250a capable battery across them can and will destroy them.
Anytime you are using a light test, across a semiconductor component (willfully or not) it can compromise the semiconductor.
Simple static electricity can destroy a semiconductor. I know those facts.
why is there only 90k views get this to a mill....and who waches n dnt give it a thumbs up really dnt apreciate this guys knowledge ....headakes like these jobs that ppl throw $$$ blindly until someone like this comes n does the real work keep it up we need help like this..
What a shame so many "professional" Tech's missed that
Good job!! Good straight forward repairs!
One thing common to all spark ignited engines: power and ground. Black boxes need both to work, checking p&g first is always the first step on the right path to the problem. With GM trucks it's often the first and last step.
Ivan proved the old wisdom: oil exploration is easy if you know where to drill. Ivan, you have created a name now as a specialist.
💪💪💪 power of knowing how the system works+ wiring diagram reading and understanding.routine work for ivan!
Those are 2 essential ingredients for speed and accuracy 👌
0:30 "They've run out of ammo for the parts cannon". That is hilarious, made my day. Thanks for sharing.
Gee! you are a genius. Logical steps and calm attitude, great professional. I wish you could be in California.
Great video and I am sure the customer doesn’t care at this point how short a time it took to fix it! They have had no truck for 3 months! Just need more of you in the world. Maybe you and the Mrs need to make some little Ivans or little Amanda’s and train them in this field. It is only going to get worst for vehicle issues! Thank for the video.
That is awesome how you diagnosed the truck with knowledge and learning over the years
The the owners happy, then it was worth every dollar,peace of mind the jobs done right,good video,thanks.
Ivan you make it look too easy sometimes. Your electrical knowledge of vehicles is amazing. ✌🏻
They forgot to throw in the kitchen sink. !! I have been watching your show for years and like you're ways of doing things !!! It's like scanner danner . A person can learn a lot from you !!! Just think of it as a payed trip !!! Thank you for your service to the u tube viewers !!! And back yard mechanics !!!
Dang it Ivan, for the drive expense and the fix maybe you should throw in a free truck wash and vacuum! As mentioned by many others in comments below and other videos I've learned and applied so much from you. My guess is by the time you showed up the customer was probably pretty ticked off by the situation and you're probably use to that. I suspect seeing the smile on his face is part of the reward you get as it is ours. Thanks for Sharing!
You know I was shouting the answer about 36 seconds in. I'm surprised Keith didn't chime in yet.
When you coming back out to the Island? I could used some help
Hey Corey! I'm actually visiting Keith in NC next week 😁
I spent hundreds on a fuel pump for a GM van years ago, only to find shortly thereafter the problem was a body ground all along. How this can be missed by a pro is beyond me. You can say “greed” but to lose a customer forever for the sale of a fuel pump job seems very shortsighted.
Greed or incompetence.
It's mostly incompetence.
A lot of flat rate guys don't take the extra time to prove the problem before throwing parts at it.
Eric at SMA has fixed sooo many corroded grounds due to the high concentration of salt used on the roads there. I would think it would be a good thing to throughly clean your grounds and apply a heavy dose of Fluid Film or other rust Inhibitor before each winter season.
It might help but you will still have pins in connectors go bad or crimps etc. Can't get them all. Just gotta deal with em as they come
Sometimes - not often, you come around people that are really impressing - you are one. No doubt about that.
Ivan, right to the problem and fixed it. Hope you enjoyed the trip Home. Thanks for Sharing!
Great video Ivan. Look forward to more. Thanks for taking us along.
Ivan said do the basics First. How could any mechanic not fix this. I always feel so good when I turn up and 30mins and where done. Like me when you arrive customer knows its going to be fixed or its a gonna.
Great job, Ivan. People who go to dealerships for repair work should understand that techs are not mechanics, and that finding and fixing a bad ground doesn't contribute nearly as much to dealer profit as replacing expensive parts first, and incidentally "fixing" the bad ground while they're in there.
What great work. Thanks for showing us this.
As far as part canons I’ve got a big one. I just put an engine in for a friend at work( I’m a professional shade tree guy by the way lol.) . I never questioned why just did it. When I got done it wouldn’t start and I found out the fuel pump was bad. There was quite a few things wrong with the truck but I believe the engine was still good.
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You make it look so easy Ivan because of your experience and knowledge base through the years of diagnosing these things. I probably would have been frustrated beyond belief but I'm very suspicious of electrical systems and grounds, you don't see it out here much in Vegas and desert land because you don't have the rust like back east..well done.
Remember, we see Ivan's edited footage. Could have been Ivan's third day on-site for all we know (just kidding)
@@suttoncoldfield9318 then this would be a 10-part Christmas Special 😂
Yeah the salt corrosion definitely introduces some fun variables lol
That’s great work Ivan , Great video thank you
Here is the thing.......Bring it to the dealer and its not a guarrenty fix bring it to YOU and it is fixed right the first time....... ...from watching your video's i fixed my car .......Thank you Ivan !!!!!
I'm glad that these vids are helping other people learn diagnostics and save a lot of time and money and frustration! :)
You are the best! Boy do we need more of you around!
I live near State College and work at Penn State! So cool finding your videos!
This problem was happing too me at random times had me puzzled ended up cleaning the ground connection and for a year now no problems
Wow! And to think I wanted to see the resistor repair! Great job!
Prindle! Haha! That was from the Suite Life of Zack and Cody. I remember watching that episode with my kids. I'll say prindle every now and then in reference to the shifter, but I usually don't get a reaction.
Soon enough Ivan will travel all way to west coast to diagnose parts cannot vehicles. Great Job!
FYI.. also a dirty ground will cause major problems.
I've seen it in Pontiacs GMC's Ford expedition Ford explorer GMC envoy trailblazer.
It does not take that much time to run down and check grounds.
Especially if someone has changed motors or transmissions a lot of times ground straps and ground wires do not get re hooked up.
Great work Ivan!! I miss professor Keith and Staten Island University.
He might make a comeback sooner than you think 😉
Thats what ivan dose at his best...customer is happy as a kid with new gift..cheers
Brilliant!! I would not solder loose automotive wires though as the vibration tends to deteriorate the soldered joint. Crimped connections with heat shrink tend to last though. Very good.
Very impressive, Ivan.
Fix it the right way by repairing the bad ground at the block. It helps with future issues and prevents anyone else from chasing ghosts due to some relocating the ground like you did. If it's worth doing, it's worth doing correctly!!!!
Great Job,.....Thanks for Sharing
Wow, clean and easy! way to go!
you are fantastic in your approach..........keep up the fantastic work
lol, ahhh the old G102....by the starter I believe. Nice work Ivan.
This one was by the power steering pump...different than a 5.3L. At first I thought AllData was wrong haha
Great job Ivan, I'll bet that is one happy guy.
My respects to you sir, i am learning alot of info from your videos and they are so addictive to watch , cant just watch one video you got to watch them one after another 👍
I really appreciate your intelligence and your want/need to help us understand what you are doing and why you are doing it. On another note, I think we have the same laptop - 2017 Newest HP X360 15.6” Full HD Touchscreen 2-in-1 Convertible Laptop PC / Tablet, 7th Gen Intel Core i5-7200U, 8GB DDR3 RAM, 1TB Hard Drive, Bluetooth - I bought it in 2017 and it is now being used by my daughter for home school through an accredited program here in MN.
great video man. been so busy with work but love watching your videos
Awesome repair! 164k Nice! Most of these trucks here in the south have way over 200k miles.
3 months down??? That is wild, can't imagine not having my work truck for a few days.
Fantastic and well done. Thanks
Wow. Something so simple but you know your work.
Your videos are showing more and more confidence!
*Great job!*
Another simple and great diagnosis!
AWESOME IVAN THANK YOU!!
Another learning experience. Thank You