Gun Gripes Episode 58: 5 Readily Available Guns
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In light of our recent supply and demand gun gripe, I had several youtubers ask me "What if I don't want to buy a black rifle and pay out a lot of money"
The truth of the matter is that you don't have to spend a lot of money to get a good gun. You don't have to have a black rifle to be a good rifleman. Yes, an AR-15 or solid M1A can be a force multiplier in the proper hands, but it does not mean that you cannot properly defend yourself with the guns we show in this video. I understand that a lot of people's emotions are on high right now and with good reason. Some of us are unemployed, but it still doesn't mean we don't need protection. Some of us do not make a lot of money, but it doesn't mean you still don't need a firearm for protection. Some of us (myself included) refuse to pay the outrageous prices that black rifles seem to demand at the current time. What we have seen, is that things are getting a little better. This past Saturday (the day after this video was recorded) we had a swarm of customers coming in from the local gun shows very disappointed with the prices that the vendors are charging on black rifles still. My prediction is that this gun ban business will blow over and hopefully everything will be back to normal by the middle of the year. I kind of miss the days of $199 Saiga 12 shotguns...
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For the love of GOD will SOMEONE pick up the phone! lol
Darrell Corriera Lol Ikr 🙈
Trying to reach Eric for his rifle’s extended warranty
I know this is a very dated video but watching a zip .22 being hyped up as a quality gun is hilarious
I'm sure they learned a lesson from praising a gun they didn't know much about.
I don’t think they hyped it up at all, they just said it’s available lol.
Brand new junk!
Yes but you can throw it at someone
I can't believe you guys were actually praising the Zip POS!!!
Yeah they mentioned they hadn't shot it. I'm sure they changed their tune
Single shot with a 25 and mag basically
do a review in that zip 22. All the ones I have seen do nothing but jam.
Ian over at Forgotten Weapons has a video on how this piece essentially killed USFA.
I really enjoy Chad. He brings a lot to the table. I miss Barry for the same reason. Older man with a calm eye of I have most of this before, this is how to take it all in stride. You too Eric, a simple honest man speaking knowlwdgeably and plainly demystifying it all. Love your channel.
Chad does a great job, It’s just that Barry is a hard act to follow
luv u guys. RIP Barry
+Tactical Barry died?
Heaven's Authority yes sir :(
rip
Hey tac, I've seen your channel before
Those dn Macs will last forever the ammo is between .380 and 9mm so yeah not much different
Tell me, Eric, how much throw up tickled your throat when you came back and saw you recommending a Zip gun?
I normally subscribe to "any gun is better than no gun," but the Zip really throws a wrench in that philosophy. Buy a bow and arrow before ever buying a Zip.
I just looked up that Zip 22 and the reviews are all bad. :(
These Guys must have never shot the zip gun. the worst handgun available
there was a good pair of Forgotten Weapons on it, and how it ruined a company and is horribly unsafe
a cache is a sort of hidden storage container usually buried in the ground. It is prononced "cash" not "ca-shay."
Hey Eric, I love your videos and have learned a lot about firearms, gun laws and gun culture. Keep em coming! I was wondering where you purchased those German fleck camo jackets you wear in some of your videos. Thanks again!
I've seen that exact mossberg 500 fail unfortunately. it was able to be fixed fairly easily but in a life and death situation it would've ended very badly. which is why I have always stuck with remington 870s. the lift arms on the 500 collapsed inside and a gunsmith had to completely disassemble it.
You guys rule! Thank you for spending the time for this and all of your other very informative videos.
I got a zip when they first came out. Never worked well, thankfully I sold it quick while there was still interest.
Im sure you all go back and see these and think, " damn, actually tried to sell that zip gun"
Yes. I believe the Model 10 FCP-K has a detachable box magazine that also holds four rounds. It has pretty much the same stock, a 24" threaded and fluted barrel, does not come with the iron sights, and costs about $475 more.
Somebody answer the freaking phone.
Im still under 18 years old and I live in Estonia. I love your videos. You guys have taught me soo many facts about guns that almost all my friend I have spoken with now love guns like they love cars. I support all you guys are doing and keep up the good work :D
Now you got me looking at Mossbergs. RIP Barry. I would have liked to have met you.
I have a savage axis .223 with the accutrigger and it is a tack driver with a vortex 4-12×40 with a sun shade and it is deadly accurate
He says “Very functional guns” then shows the zip
I'd say the Mossberg 702 plinkster is worth mentioning too. They can be had for under $200, sometimes under $100 used, they're nice and light, accurate, they come in many finishes, your kids and wife can shoot it, it holds 10 rounds of .22LR, you can put a scope on it, it is basically built on a Marlin Model 60 action. Great rifle.
Someone should take the idea of the zipgun and make it with better quality.
Anything could make the Zip .22 better. Even taking it apart, and leaving it like that.
Because of your several Mosin Nagant videos...I bought one. Great advice...love it.
Hey. I know you guys get a lot of comments. I was wondering if you guys would recommend any reputable guns shops around the Charlotte, NC area. I would come to moss but I understand you are in Georgia.
Rip Barry
I bought my 5th Mosin on Friday. The supply is starting to dry up here in Ohio because people are quickly realizing the effectiveness and economy of the Mosin-Nagant platform. You can get a 440 round spam can of surplus ammo at gun shows for $90 or less. They are cheaper to shoot than a 9mm pistol by far and they are cannons to boot. You cannot beat this firearm for it`s sheer power and economy at the 7.62 caliber level. These are great guns!
how dare you put that zip... in the same group as a glock.
David Salazar I know that zip deserves much better
Those Glock fan boys definitely hate comparisons.
Gustaaf Argoan if its a bad comparison then well yea
@@behappy5869 they just hate comparisons, I know enough Glock fanboys and they're my friends. Not a big deal. I buy what I like and they buy glocks. Guns shouldn't be a source of division. This is one area I believe that diversity is good. I'll still give them shit while I pull out my Beretta and hit amazing groups and they at least hit the paper with their glocks.
This isn't a competition. I'm not questioning your level of testosterone.
Gustaaf Argoan you must not know anything about zip 22s. It’s a bad comparison, not because Glock is that good, but because the zip quite literally can’t get through 3 shots without a malfunction. The next worst gun ever is better than the zip. Go look at videos of it
I really enjoy watching you guys. Good ole southern folks, with a lot of good down to earth tips !👍
Berry was just A Good ol Boy.... RIP, Berry, I bought A glock 17 because of Him
Are glocks legal in New York?
Barry*
Enjoy your videos men and I hope you keep putting them out. I don't need to say this but I will "continue keeping it real" it resonates and as a fairly new viewer it's appreciated. And keeps us coming back.
My SHTF rifle is the Garand!
Love the M1 Garand :))
I like the mosin nagant aswell :)
Where the hell did you get a Garand?! I want one so bad!
Found one on the rack of my favorite gun shop about 15 yrs ago. You might have better luck at a gun show.
Stephen Maurer Well theres one coming in February here might aswell!
Try Sportsman's Guide online surplus store. They sell quite a bit of camo (or at least they used to) from foreign countries.
I'm a new sub. You guys are great. Keep it up and I'll keep watching.
I have an old Mauser 1895 bolt action built by Mauser for the Chilian army with the bayonet I bought from the sportsmanship guide back in the mid 80s for a hundred bucks. Head space was checked and verified safe by seller. I bought a bunch of Winchester factory 170 grain ammo for it on sale and still have lots left. Very nice shooter.
ive never seen a video with the zip 22 that it worked at all
I bought a CZ-82 back in 2012. I could find ammo for it everywhere, when everything else was sold out. It proved to be a very smart purchase (it cost me $250).
"I kind of miss the days of $199 Saiga 12 shotguns..."
You and me both.
in india u get a basic revolver for 2k dollars due to gun laws
INVINCIBLE ONE Focus on getting the majority of your citizens to stop shitting in the streets then worry about that.
I traded two Mosin Nagant Carbines (M44 & M38) for a Sig P250 in .357 Sig/.40 S&W. It has been the best compact pistol I've owned. Once you learn how to shoot a DAO trigger it's smooth and hits the target every time. I can't wait to see a review from you on it. I've been wanting to get the .380 kit and 9mm kit.
I like That Survival Rifle it would great for Camping or Hiking Sir!😉
I have a CZ 82 9x18 and really recommend it. all my buddies are impressed with it. good for left handed folks too.
Nice vid.
I have the P250 compact in 9mm. It's a very nice gun and easy for everyday carry. A lot of people complain about the DAO trigger, but it's not a big deal if you train with it.
Glock 17? Nope. I wish. I wanted a couple more.
One gun Ive yet to see on any of your lists are SKS's. Those guns are just down right reliable. Easy to maintain and readily available. Ammo is out there leg work, yes. But it is out there. Lots of readily available upgrades, and the tapco mags work with a little follower work. with iron sights, your good out to 250 yards. With a good scope, you can get out to 300-350 if you spend the time to work on sighting.
What kind of jacket is that? I really like that style
German flektarn surplus jacket
Barry is the beauty and Eric is the Brains.
So Barry is hired to stand there and look good. haha
Anyways, could you all do a video on tactical 12 gauge shotguns reviews?
love the channel n these guys, theyre awesome but.....do have to wonder if some things they say like "Under 500.00" means a realistic under 500 and not 499.99
Technically 499.99 is under 500. But I see what you mean like $450-$475.
What the government charges you on top of what they charged is between you and the government. They can't help tax lol
Although there ARE some good semi-autos to be had. Ruger makes a nice, solid rifle in the Mini series, chambered in 5.556x45 or 7.62x39 (mini-14 or Mini-30, respectively) It's capable of mounting a scope and all the fancy rails and toys you want, you can add a folding or collapsible stock (I believe they also make a bullpup kit for it) and there are hi-cap magazines made for it, where hi-cap magazines can be had.
did anyone else see the stupid gun control ad. absolutely ridiculous proper fire arms owners could save lives. not to mention it's our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms
Eric you got it right, milsurp all the way, quality and affordable. I shoot a 5 gal pail with my mosin @660 yrds with open sights. It's a $150 rifle...
Come on, guys, the zip is trash. You're better than to promote that crap.
+WhistlePigZILLA
You a fan of the guy who puts twinkies in his guns to test them?
Im sure there is much better weapons to bring with you to a forest you are planning to get lost in.
Rubins are awesome though. very impressive. I know many people get bent out of shape over ARs and AKs but fail to see the capability of mosins, tubins, and mausers. I know that the Yugo SKS I restored back in 2006 is now worth over 400 dollars (after spending 150).
Awesome video.
Gun geipes isnt really gun gripes anymore
You guys are great. Wish you were here in Louisiana. Hard to practice when it is so hard to find ammo. Our dealer hasn't had 22LR or .223 for least a month if not 2.
The Zip gun sucks. I've seen a few videos on it and it jams like an SOB.
+Robert Griesmeyer Yep Zip Guns are the " WORSE" firearm in History.
Go to any gun show. They're listed on the web for all areas and they ALWAYS have spam cans of ammo for sale. It's plentiful and still relatively cheap. Be ready to clean your mosin after shooting it, though, cause it's usually corrosive and the residue can't be left in the chamber or bore too long.
Sorry, ill call back later, Lol
hahahahahaha
Most lever action guns have a tubular magazine. Need to use flat point or round point bullets. A pointed one is likely to set off the one ahead of it under recoil. It will be a chain reaction from there. Also, the action is not near as strong as a bolt so the bolt action can shoot more powerful rounds. You can still get lever guns in 30 30, 44 magnum, 357 magnum 22 and possibly more. I just now got back from shooting my Winchester 9422.
Savage makes a lot of price friendly rifles. I used to hunt with a Savage that my neighbor bought for $400 and came with a scope. They are one of the most accurate rifles for the money.
Revolvers are pretty available, not so much the Light weight carry ones. But the gp100 sp101 and Smiths are sturdy, reliable, easy to reload for and accurate. If stuck in woods, I think better to have than makarov if deer or bear pop up
Pipe, grinding wheel, another pipe, end cap, wooden dowel cut down, with 1/4" hole in 1 end, a screw, epoxy and there's your readily available gun. I have 2 of those while I'm trying to get the money together for a Glock 19 build kit or a Kel-tec Sub 2000 rifle in 9mm.
He was not saying that anyone necessarily needs to be able to hit anything at 300 yards in a self-defense situation, just that an AR is not necessarily needed for that. It has to do with simply being able to hit what you are aiming at.
If you think you need an AR as a "survival" (shtf/wrol) rifle, he showed that even the 100+ year old mil-surp bolt-action rifles are often more than good enough for that purpose.
I personally started with a Mosin. I liked it as my first gun because it was cheap to buy, cheap to shoot, and fun to shoot. It's not likely to bring any sort of legal headaches if a gun ban does pass. With Archangel's new stock I'm excited because it will have removable ten round mags. Another benefit of starting out on a higher caliber like the 7.62x54R is that scaling down I find myself super comfortable with semi auto on even the 7.62x39. Another excellent choice would be a Mossberg 500.
We can't find .40 S&W or .380 auto hardly anywhere including gun shows and major retailers. Even our range sells out in no time. We finally found a little store that has it and bought 3 or 4 boxes of each but we can only go to the range about once a month and shoot 50-100 rounds out of each because we just can't find it anywhere.
Was at Gander Mtn. earlier, 12 gauge was practically falling into the aisle they had so much.
You guys are spot-on. People don't need a $4,500 Colt AR-15 fully-chromed and tacti-cooled to the point where it borders bling for self-defense. Just about ANY firearm, .22LR included, can be incredibly effective.
Hell, I'd say that the weapon people shoot most and find the most comfortable is going to be the best weapon for them. With ammo prices, a .22LR is actually very viable given people will be more apt to blow hundreds of rounds of it since it's way cheaper than the alternatives.
i have mosin i bought for my brother its a tack driver my 2nd fav rifle next to my enfield.
The semi's are great for supression and jump advancement. But a person with a good well setup bolt gun is a very effective defender.
There are 100s of reasons why a "high capacity" magazine is useful. For example on our family farm and hunting lease we have a very bad hog problem and they end to get together in groups. Usually 10-15 hogs at a time and there is no time to make a magazine change when we kill them because they run and scatter all over the place so to take out 5 or 6 of them at a time it usually requires about 20-30 rounds of ammo. If we don't kill the hogs then they tear up our land that our family lives off of.
I like that you focus on the myriad of other weapons that people seem to forget about with all the attention on semi-automatic assault rifles. I like that Makarov, and Mosin Nagant. Only about 1 month to go, then I can get my Mosin Nagant (1933 Tula, with hex receiver)
Very good video gentlemen. Lots of good suggestions on non-AR/AK rifles.
I agree and highly recommend guns like the Mosin and Mossberg that are still available and relatively affordable, while having cheap and available ammo. About how much do the Zipgun cost?
thanks for the comprehensive video on must/should haves for personnal use...also saw the rally vid...great stuff !!!!!!..you guys are the TOPS!!!!!! thank you !!!!!..joe in NYSSR!!!!!!!!
the Lever action is another great option. a 30-30 makes a dandy defensive rifle...you just have to be more deliberate with your shots...which you should be doing anyway.
Hey Eric, do you guys do restorations on old guns? A buddy of mine has a 193? Arisaka that's gonna need to be blued, and he'll probably want it glass bedded as well. The furniture is in OK shape, but he may want to keep it that way.
Glock 17s are hard to find. The Zip 22 is a crap gun. Most guns that shoot .22 lr are still readily available. Most shotgun are easy to find along with the ammo. The Mosin Nagant along with the ammo are still very available. For rifles, I prefer a Mauser 98 type rifle, and for pistols I like the Sig 226 or a 6" revolver. Accuracy and power is better than spray fire.
Great video. Mosin is a great gun with lots of fire power. Have two. 22LR is also great to have in rifle and pistol. THanks for the insight.
Nice informative video guys. I got off the couch today and ran several hundred rounds through my Glock 17 weapon system.
Very good vid guys. Kinda touched on my own philosophy about bolt actions, but it's not like we've got much of a choice between bolt and semi auto in my part of the world away.
You list 3 handgun calibers, but only one relatively weak rifle caliber. I personally wanted a .223 because it seemed like one of the more readily available and useful small rifle rounds (until a few months ago).
I would happily trade any 2 of the pistol sizes you list for a .223 if I were stuck choosing between them.
Love the Mosin- I can consistently hit inside the 8 ring at 100+ yards with iron sights. Looking for an original PU sniper rifle (without being gouged) to add to my collection.
You're right- you don't NEED to spend $1,500 or more for an effective rifle.
"Be proficient with your weapons system" - that's the key.
Really liking the videos- keep up the good work!
The lowest Ive seen Tapco mags lately is 25 bucks and that was at a local shop, but overall, yes, prices are up across the board. Tapcos will be cheaper than other AK mags because their supply is a little ahead of everyone elses, imported AK mags included.
20 gauge I would go with #4 better penetration if you cant use buck or slugs. Remmington Express is good ammo, hits hard. Dont use handloads for self defense lol. I have never had a centerfire factory round not work and I have had lots of handload duds.
In the Chicagoland area (for me at least) the 9x18 Makarov ammo is very hard to find in brick and mortar stores ($26 for a box of 25 rounds!). Luckily it is cheap online, if I order ammo through friends outside of Cook county.
Mark Kruk In a pinch,your 9x18 Makarov will chamber .380 but it will be somewhat less accurate with that ammo.Still,if you really need that gun for defense and can't find 9x18mm,.380ACP will be fine up close.
Sorry you live in such a horribly un-gun friendly place. I would never want to live in Hawaii, SoCal, New York, Maryland, DC, Massachusetts, or Chicago. But hey, least the rest of the state loosened up with shall issue, right?
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I know,right?I'm glad I live in a southern,shall issue state where pretty much everyone has guns and it's no big deal.I like the fact that I can walk into a gun store and buy whatever I choose,with no waiting period,no silly 1 gun a month rule,no high capacity magazine ban,etc.....In both my home state and where I live now you can even own class 3 weapons.And the Walmart near my house always has M-4s and other military style weapons(semi-auto only of course) and plenty of spare mags and ammo to go with them.Damn I love 2nd Amendment friendly states.Glad to live in the south.This weekend I think I'll grab my 1911 and MAK 90 and go unload a few hundred rounds in the woods.:)
Get an SKS if you have the funds, but if you are looking for an alternative get the mosin, hands down the most accurate rifle I have shot and like they stated its a good self defense weapon.
I miss Barry. I was watching a episode of Hickock45 on the Makarov and thought of Barry. I didn't know the makarov was in this video when I started watching. That's incredibly eerie. RIP Barry
Yeah, i hear ya.. I don't see anything wrong with an older gun though,. I had a lee enfield and it was honestly fantastic. 10rd mag and with the irons from a bench, I could shoot (with mine with my reloads) about 6" groups at 400 yards. That is fantastic and a fast bolt to boot. The only reason I got rid of it was it was too expensive to shoot, even reloading.. But I do agree with you. I just think people don't appreciate practice.. ha ha Practice is worth more than anything you can buy
.40 caliber handguns are also a major sell. Shotguns are on a buying frenzy, most dealership are almost empty on their inventory. They do not know when are they getting resupply.
While you're at it, you could throw a couple of .380ACP in the mag too. They'll fire just fine. Probably won't cycle - and the brass will be FUBAR - and you probably won't hit what you're shooting at.. but that doesn't mean you can't do it.
I liked the guns you posted, especially the K-31 which I was really considering. I really want to try and get a surplus Russian SKS, though. I don't even care if I need to clean all the cosmoline off. The thing is I'm not sure what the prices should be, especially with all the fluctuations going on. I know they used to be in the $100-$200 range. What would you say would be a good price on a surplus Russian/Yugo SKS? Is the drop in quality worth the drop in price for a Chinese SKS?
You are correct. No matter how good a person is with a pump, lever, break, bolt action or revolver they will ALWAYS be at a significant disadvantage to someone armed with a modern semi-automatic weapon. A good example is the M1 Garand and the advantage it gave US troops over the bolt guns of the axis. The axis rifles had similar capacity and capability and both sides had training, however the higher rate of fire, ability to maintain a sight picture and easy reloads won the war for the allies.
you can take a heat gun to the G17 and fix the warp in the front of the frame where its curving up and touching the slide
Good job, gentlemen. I agree with what you say about just being proficient/competent with whatever weapon one has. I agree that because one may not have an AR/AK or some other 'tacticool gizmo' that they are vulnerable. Nothing could be further from the truth. I'm so glad you guys just talk facts. Your channel, and other channels, have inspired me to post firearms videos with just the facts. Thank you for all of your labors.
Jaja, men jag menar,
det är ju inte lika lätt att skaffa en AR-15 som ett hagelgevär liksom.
Är det målskjutningslicens?
Oh and I wanted to note that I'm in CA, so my realistic rifle options are rather limited. That's why I'm looking at the nice surplus rifles like the Nagant, SKS, K31, and the other fixed mag/lower capacity rifles. Also the ammo price is a nice selling point for the SKS, even if it is corrosive. I clean my guns at an almost OCD level.
I have a 32 tula mosin and love it, so simple and rugged. For the 100-130$ prices its stupid not to buy one. I am also happy I bought my garand before they dried up from cmp.
Why would you want to refurbish a gen 1 or gen 2 Glock, if it is still in serviceable condition? Do the gen 3 or 4 versions have any added benefits other than attachment points?
For my birthday in Febuary I got a S&W 5904 and extra mag for $500 at a pawn shop that was expensive before the scare. It's a great pistol yet all the old S&W auto series seems to be forgotten.
Lol if only they had tried shooting that .22 zip gun before this video... Those things are actually kinda collector pieces now because of how terrible they are and that they basically took down a prominent gun company.
.22 are decent but no ammo where in at or limited to 1 box per person per day, if you can find it. I did find the survival rifle (200$)shoots good and can hide it in a pack very well
I went to my local range and I rented a glock 17 and it failed to feed and eject. Does my range just not take care of their rentals or what? Also had a 38 special revolver that failed to fire twice. People say that revolvers never fail but I witnessed a glock and a revolver fail twice.