And it's still cheaper in the long run since you don't need a subscription and the games are way cheaper. Even a mid tier pc will at least break even with a console in seven years (with subscription). It has a different distribution of cost and the upfront price should be seen more as an investment for something that will provide you with greater returns in the long run. And yeah with the versatility of being an open platform instead of a closed system it's a no brainer.
@@daukwin Console games are cheaper too lmao.. you can find used physical games at throw away prices and digital games go on sale literally every week on ps and xbox stores, not everybody pays and plays online and you can literally jailbreak consoles and pirate games there for free like pc.. as for OP's point on running windows and whatever nobody buys a console to do pc stuff on it, they buy consoles to play games because thats what they're literally made for, so that's a completely irrelevant and nonsensical argument.
@@EX0007 I don't think consoles have Fanatical and Humble bundle, which provide insanely good deals. Nor do I think they have Epic games and GOG giving away free games all the time that you keep forever regardless of a subscription. I think if you only play modern AAA singleplayer games, or the biggest multiplayer games like the battle royale ones AND you already have a decent pc for internet browsing/work or whatever then I can see consoles being good value. My argument was that even for gaming only pc is probably the better value, especially if you play more than like 5 games a year and/or like indie stuff. The ability to do everything else on it is just a really nice bonus. Idk about you but most people I know just use their phones for everything and would stand to benefit from a pc. I agree with OP but it seems a lot of people have the notion that the higher cost premium of pc is just for the benefit of being a pc that can do more stuff than just gaming. And I just wanted to point out that even for gaming only it's not as expensive as it seems! For sure though consoles have their place for certain people but most gravitate toward them for convenience and they pay a price for that.
@@EX0007 I don't think consoles have Fanatical and Humble bundle, which provide insanely good deals. Nor do I think they have Epic games and GOG giving away free games all the time that you keep forever regardless of a subscription. I think if you only play modern AAA singleplayer games, or the biggest multiplayer games like the battle royale ones AND you already have a decent pc for internet browsing/work or whatever then I can see consoles being good value. My argument was that even for gaming only pc is probably the better value, especially if you play more than like 5 games a year and/or like indie stuff. The ability to do everything else on it is just a really nice bonus. Idk about you but most people I know just use their phones for everything and would stand to benefit from a pc. It seems a lot of people think that the higher cost premium of pc is just for the benefit of being a pc that can do more stuff than just gaming. And I just wanted to point out that even for gaming only it's not as expensive as it seems! For sure though consoles have their place for certain people but most gravitate toward them for convenience and they pay the price.
The one advantage people don’t bring up for pc, is the price of games. You could own a computer and never pay full price for any game. Maybe in the short term it costs a little more to get into, but I promise you’ll save 15%-50% on every game you buy if you want to.
@@trabant601e sure there is pirating but since I started to make my own money i didn't pirated any game. I never been someone that felt need of playing most recent aaa games and only buy at big discounts. Gaming is really cheap that way. Also let me use my computer has long life. Really dont need pirating that way.
i get what you're saying but honestly you can always buy second hand disks which means that you actually owning the game unlike if you buy from other places(exept gog) and it's even cheaper than most deals in aaa games, in indie its also makes things cheaper but not as much, and tbh a lot of the ps store deals are really good. the actual problem with consoles is the online service. if i buy a game that has online or even worse the whole game is online game and i don't have ps plus i'm ducked.
me too, I used my brothers win 10 key he already used, and I found a yt video telling me to make some notepad and run it in command prompt and the shit straight up activated my windows. Now I got windows 11 and it still says activated, but there's no key 💀💀
Seen a video bought random parts that part picker was OK with and made changes on the fly when a better mobo showed up in amazon and you really don't need any instructions worked fine for me
Also let's not forget that you don't just use the PC for entertainment. It's a work station as well, especially useful in this day and age where everything is digital and online. That's why I am saving up for a more expensive PC which would be complete overkill for gaming alone, but will work great for all the programmes I need to run.
People that say consoles are the cheap option don't know what they are talking about. 500$ console plus 100$ a year for membership is 1000$ over 5 years, you can easily get a PC for that amount
You need to upgrade a PC every couple of years easily to run the top games. Even if you start with a $700 PC, you will need to spend another $300+ on a new graphics card in 2-5 years time, then another $100-200 on a PSU, then another $150-300+ on a new CPU to make sure not to bottleneck your new GPU. Of course, this can be solved by spending more on your PC in the first place, but that defeats the purpose. Also, Xbox live gold + game pass is $60 for the year, and the Series S is like $330 rn. PCs are far superior to consoles in most aspects, but they are undeniably extremely expensive and time consuming.
Crock of crap, you can literally just watch a video of someone else listing what components to buy, and then buy them and build. Knowing a deep understanding of all PC components is not required at all.
@@jipillow1 I'm sorry you thought this was about me expecting you to care, I was just pointing out how ridiculous your point was. You don't need to care about it, I just needed everyone else who read it to know the fault in that logic
I built my current (first) PC for $650 back in 2020, when all the part prices dipped momentarily! Upgraded some little bits and bobs here and there, new M.2, upgraded RAM, but my CPU and GPU are still going strong! I think I did great! Although my GTX 1660 GPU is starting to show its age now.
I'm 13 and I've learned a ton from your channel, I love building PCs and all of my friends and family ask me for advice cuz in Pakistan all we care about is price to performance and that's the path I got my friends and family to walk instead of all aesthetics, thanks for all your help
He overlooked one thing here. With PC you can do so much more. Most people tend to use another device for something else. With the PS5, you are very limited. You can only play games, and it has limited streaming apps or video content. It all comes down to your needs.
@Fetska1 That's a fair point. A gaming PC is going to cost more than a ps5. If you were to build a pc that is going to have similar specs to a ps5. My argument is that most people tend to have a laptop and a games console, so why not just have one. The lack of upgrades and it is going to be more difficult to repair a ps5. Anyways, like I said, it comes down to the individuals needs.
@@sambeezy007 Ryzen 7800X3D, AMD 7900 XTX, 128GB DDR5 RAM, Gold and Platinum 1TB and 2TB (respectively) SK Hynix SSD’s, 2TB and 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD’s, 1000W SuperFlower Leadex VII PSU, all in a Fractal Torrent. Super happy with it. Plus miscellaneous stuff like fans, cooler, monitor, peripherals, etc..
Finally a pc building channel that has the objectively superior mindset. Look at what you have, lay out your options, and choose depending on what you want. I’m a pc hobbyist at heart but I still love consoles, especially older ones.
People forget this. A console has everything you need besides a tv, but most people already have one. If you want an even remotely decent set of peripherals you’re easily looking at spending well over another hundred to get your monitor, headset, keyboard, and mouse (assuming most people at least have a basic mousepad).
I saved up and built my own computer at 18. I actually got my R9 270X 4GB on my 18th birthday. All these years of buying second hand, learning the ins and outs of buying, assembling and using my hardware has lead me to owning dozens of Facebook/eBay/Craigslist systems. It's why I love channels like yours. I didn't get a high end system till far later and even then, my only all new system was my first build when I was a kid. Lol
I recommend learning before you can afford it. There is a lot of stuff I learned while I was gathering money. If I had the money from the start I am sure I would have made a lot of mistakes. Now that i have finished my pc and it works well there is still mistakes i am finding out about my pc.
Gaming PC would be cheaper in the long run because you save so much money not having to pay for online gaming all the money you save on online gaming you can save for upgrades for the PC
Don't get me wrong, I choose PC any day of the week. But considering the price of my PC, I could buy an Xbox Series X, and pretty much a lifetime of Game Pass subscriptions are dumb but really cheap.
My pc and monitor together are worth around £1000 so it would take roughly 10 years of gamepass and an xbox series x to become more expensive than my pc. Specs: Amd ryzen 5800x Corsair LPX DDR4 3600MHZ 16gbx2 c16 Zotac blower rtx 2080 ti Msi b550m pro-vdh wifi Corsair 750w modular psu Koorui 1440p 144hz va gaming monitor curved. Corsair h105 240mm aio
Xbox and Sony have shittier games? Concord? Just shut down. Star Wars Outlaws? Bad. The upcoming new heist game Sony was promoting? Looks terrible. Xbox out here firing so many devs and closing studios. Just stay away from console now.
GTX 1060 4gb, GTX 1660 6gb, GTX 1070 8gb, RTX 2060 6gb. That list shows GPU's. The List shows bottleneck from least to greatest, with th 1060 having the lowest bottleneck, and the 2060 having the highest bottleneck. They will both work fine, just that they will be limited by the i7 6700. Hope this helps! ALSO! ENSURE YOUR PSU HAS EITHER A 6 PIN, 8 PIN, OR 2 SATA CABLES (use a 2x sata to 6 pin) SO YOU CAN SUPPLY ENOUGH POWER TO THE GPU!
A gtx 1650 super is around the level of performance adequate for a i7 6700. I would have said the rx 6600xt but the cpu bottle necks it at 1080p gaming. With a cpu+ motherboard combo as old as 6th gen intel, it’s more worth it in the long run to just upgrade the entire system rather than buying an outdated graphics card for an outdated system.
When I had my first thought of getting a computer, I had an option, build a pc or get it pre built knowing I was on a “budget” and I heard that building my own was a better option and “cheap”, ever since then I literally did non stop research, every night I watched UA-camrs build a pc to keep me motivated, when I ordered the first 2 parts that came in, I knew that was the moment to keep it up, and now, I’ve been my first ever pc around 800$ it took around 3-4 hours for me and I absolutely love it.
I got my gigabyte K5 gaming laptop for no more than $650. Its my first "gaming PC" and has been more than adequate to test the waters of PC gaming. Honestly starting small never hurts
Pc part picker is your best friend with this too specially if your working within a budget. It lets the builder see the different parts and versions of parts currently available with recent price tags. it’ll tell you what is compatible with what and can give a good rough estimate on how much of a punch your wallets gonna take before even starting. it’s how I found out the Msi b550 G plus is completely compatible with the amd ryzen 7 5800 X after the bios update 😅
I love PC now. I have found myself using it for more than gaming. Simple things like having discord on a separate monitor and having it for 3-D printing is also very nice. Of course my games look awesome. But if you just want plug and play, I 100% understand that as well.
I'm jumping in with both feet. Im going to make a 1080p rig to play older titles. Plus I'm building my own wood tower. That part intrigues me the most.
the problem with low budget tiers is that for one its becoming harder and harder to achieve and even if you get something together people expect it to be much better than a console. use console like settings and 30/60 fps caps and its possible.
I have consoles because I do freelance work from home on my pc. Thus any time spent on pc feels like work. The consoles are in a separate room so that I won't get tempted to go and check my email again. Luckily graphics and whatnot are never an issue when all my favourite games are from the PS2 era ❤
The Rog Ally is basically a mid tier gaming PC. I've been carrying mine at work and know a few people that are interested in getting one. I'm pretty sure you can get an open box non extreme version for around 300 in the next year, 500 for the extreme Ally once the Ally X drops.
The problem is that my usage is not only gaming, my career also makes me need a good graphic card and my university makes me need a good cpu And at the same time my budget is not that good, in my country prices are really high and some things are not even findable My budget is around 800 dollars (hardly) so I still seek your guidance
Over 2 years, starting with a $50 fb marketplace "gaming" pc built in 2012, I built it into my own. Not just 1 but 2 cause my wife has one as well. 3 weeks ago, I finished off our builds with new cases. To say off the drop end is an understatement lol. But PCs have $1300 each in them. They both have ryzen7 5700x cpu, rtx3060 gpu running 32g of ram, on an msi B-550-A pro motherboard. I just wish i had went bigger on the gpu at the end of the day, but they are both very solid machines.
Another thing is it's easier to keep old programs/games with a PC the sales on games seem to be better to so you might be able to save that way as well.
The hobby is definitely a big learning process but there is nothing better than the feeling of seeing a system post when you were getting nothing after many different troubleshooting steps. (Sometimes you just need to re seat components until it works)
This is exactly what I did, I’ve been on console for about 7 years and I’m now building a $1,500 PC. I am overly excited and anxious considering alls left to by is the cpu then My neighbor and I will build it
Just don't fall into the upgrade hype(unless you just want to), and you'll be gaming for years and years and years on it. I'm still using my $800 PC(1060 and i5 8400) that I built almost a decade ago. I'm almost 4 gens behind and using the budget card from that gen and STILL playing stuff like Elden ring np
I built my first PC from the ground up with only $1400. It took me six hours to go from box to fully built. I followed every instruction to the T, and after firing it up, I have only had to make two replacements in the lifetime of my PC, which has been two years
I'm a console gamer but ive decided to try and build my own PC. I know absolutely nothing about it and dont really have a budget per se. My plan is to buy a couple of parts every month until I have everything and then give it a go. Wish me luck.
I’m slowly but surely buying each piece as I get the money to. It will take longer yes but I will eventually have everything I want without having to sacrifice performance for price.
I did. And it's soo fun. Time consuming? As f but fun as f as well. Thank you for all the tip. As soon as I install TikTok on my phone I'll ask what you think of my budget setup. 🙏
I remember back when i was in middle school, i built my first pc with fx-8350 and gtx 750 ti and it lasted so long without being obsolete til my gpu breaks basically the right side of my screen became purple. After that i upgrade with fx-9570 and rtx 2070. Now i feel like i have to upgrade every year, games and my productivity programs actually keep on demanding more and more vram. The only good thing is that newer cpu and gpu actually have low power consumption so i got no need to upgrade my 12 years old psu.
Humble opinion as a pc builder: if you don’t value modding and you only care about gaming, Pc under $400 might be a mistake, Ps5 probably lasts 5-10 years, includes controller and you can get it with $399 new. Compare to pc which is $400 with a decent mouse and keyboard will never ever last 10 years “ your parts probably will be 20 years old “ or can run a game at 4k with 60 fps. Specially if you like to buy parts new!
True, especially in the EU with the exception of Germany, I've seen many PS5 boxes combined with €100 gift cards attached to them, which is better than a PC since for the same price, which is €500, would either get you an entry-level PC for basic tasks or an old PC with a good CPU and a used graphics card, both of them require luck, I've tried building a PC from Pcpartpicker and I could make a PC with a R 5 3600 and Arc A580 under €500 in Italy, so it's possible to some extent, but it won't run the latest games at 4k, the experience would be much worse than consoles.
A PC will last the same as a console, unless they cheat like they did on RDRII, where the console versions use lower than low settings in order to have a decent performance. And consoles run nowhere near 4K & 60 FP/s on 94% of the titles, in fact, they've been having trouble to have decent performance at 1080p on the latest releases.
@@Rullino32Consoles don't run at 4K, they barely hit 1440p... 4K was already difficult to reach on old titles from PS4 since they had to sacrifice graphic settings & use upscaling or DRS, even GTAV, a game from PS3 does not run at 4K since it's using DRS on Fidelity Mode.
The thing is, I want a PC because I do more than gaming and a console doesn't give me that versatility. Right now where I live I see a pre-built with a Ryzen 5 5600G for around 400 USD
You should mention that it also depends on where you live. 500 USD for a 1080p monster just isn't possible here in the philippines. Electronics get a jump in price here the moment they arrive unless you want every single major component to be used parts.
I would like to see your 1 non budget ,non FPS per dollar build for 2000 at least. With good aesthetics , not too much rgb , just overspent a bit on nice rams , MB etc :)
@@Khel-i6q I bought a RTX 4060 new since I had 50€ discount, though it was damaged so I asked a refund and got a 3070 for the same price new since it was discounted 100€
I built my first PC last year after 3 months of research from watching UA-cam vids by ZTT, ScatterVolt, PC Builder and more. I ended up getting the Ryzen 5 5600 with RX 6700 XT (used) and in total my build cost me around $600. Learning how to build your own PC is definitely worth it 👍
One thing that I learned from a friend on a budget buying a console. It's that games are so damn EXPENSIVE! We PC gamers out here be eatin' good thanks to gaben slapping green % left and right
yeah, my PC is not the best for gaming as i was a complete little rookie back in 2020, but i only wanted it to be something i could play Minecraft with at like 60FPS on full 1080p with multitasking so, win win
In Europe prices are higher, so it is not possible to build 500$ or even 100$ equivalent gaming PC. At best in Europe for 100$ would be possible to build a PC with used parts based on LGA1155 or 1150.
True, but used PCs aren't affected by taxes and they're priced lower so they could free up the inventory as soon as possible. As for the EU taxes, that's true, it's frustrating to see americans recommending me something just because it's cheaper in the US.
i dont get it why people say pc is soo expensive i mean im a 14 yo and bought a fujitsu esprimo p920 for 30 bucks (16 gig ddr3 500 gig samsung sata ssd core i7 4970 random 300 watt power supply) and im really happy i added a gtx 1050 ti and i got intrestet and build more and more a other thing it is that we can get sooo much performance through software line amd frs or dsll and even windows settings can give a huge fps boost so always be happy what you have and keep going
Problem is that too many kids nowadays, and their parenys, don't let/trust a friend to help out in building 1st PC Met a 12yo yesterday, bought a CPU fromnhim. He said is building his 3rd PC atm, he started with 1st one when he was 8yo - this is so rare!
The thing is, if you build your mid-tier gaming rig properly, your $1200 for only 1 device will be equal too or cheaper than the price of a console ($500+) plus a $500-700 general use PC/tablet over the same period of time, if it lasts for at least 6 years. If you would never use a PC otherwise, then yeah, stick with a console.
The mobility of a tablet/laptop is pretty important for productivity tho, I feel like people may end up getting one regardless if they have a PC or not
If you have the money for a PC, go PC all the way. If your on a budget and just want a nice gaming experience? get a used wii and some mario games, crazy good for like $100 if you get it at the right place
I say go with both if you can, sinply because you can then get the exclusive games to console, easily game on your TV on a comfy chair or couch, and still be abole to play PC games too.
I'm new to PC building. I have a friend who knows how to build one, and he's been very helpful. (Of course, I'm doing my own research, which is why I watch these videos) and when I have everything purchased. I'll probably have spent about $1,100. On just the PC parts. I also got a new desk, chair, keyboard, and mouse. And I need a new monitor that will run 4k, as my GPU can run 4k. I was gonna buy a monitor that could run 1080p, but then I saw your video about how monitors can bottleneck a GPU. I am unfortunately gonna have to spend a bit more on a better monitor😅
I built my first pc in about 15 years during the pandemic- i5,1050ti and 16gb ddr4 with a 1tb ssd and it's still running. I recently upgraded mine and my daughter's to whole new set ups - 250hz monitor, i7 12700f, 32gb ram,2tb ssd and a 4070 12gb back in January and what an upgrade. I gave the missus my ps5 as she didn't want a pc. I had to laugh at my mate complaining about updates on console so showed him how awkward DCS can be 😂😂😂😂.
I would put it this way: if you have low budget, are not that into PCs and ONLY really care about gaming, get a console. If you're planning on doing something else with your pc other than gaming, then invest some time in learning the basics of pc build and build yourself something that'll get the job done, or ask for help, there could be somebody out there that knows about the subject that is willing to help you because this community loves to tinker a lot
Literally the hardest thing about building a pc is the cable management. Everything else is cake and requires no exp or advance knowledge. The parts only go into the slots that they fit into. You literally can’t mess up. I’ve been building custom pcs for 15 years and teach people how to build. There’s nothing to it.
when factoring in the cost for online services, the price of games and replacing your controllers (they are built to break), then a pc is only more expensive because you have to pay upfront
I Love PC Gaming I’ve Been Playing PC Games Since I Was 10 I’m 20 now and when I got my first PC when I was 14 in 2017 I quickly realised how complicated issues on PC can be like having to Mod games so they work properly or just average trouble shooting issues when things go wrong Consoles are Dummy Proof honestly i don’t want to deter someone from PC gaming but just know fixing things is apart of the experience take pride in knowing how to fix the problems you didn’t know how to fix before
i started with a ps3, got a ps4 the week it came out in 2014, and had been using that ps4 until about 2 years ago when i built my first gaming pc, with an rx 580 and an i7 4790k. best gaming decision ive ever made, i have/will be saving so much money i wouldve otherwise been spending on playstation plus, as well as now having the ability to play almost any game on the market/do work online
I have reached the point of having you in my feed as soon as the video is uploaded. Finally my algorithm is showing me some good content
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Glad I have a pc than a console. It's not just the price, but also its applications.
Well, I hope those used parts don't die. 😂
I think 120 FPS or even 240 FPS in 1080p is better, than 60 FPS in 4k, but consoles are more for casual players, than cybersport or action games.
Pretty sure you mean piracy 😂
( Based btw )
Yep, i dont only game, i studt too, so a pc its good
@@Elpapu6996 Paper and pencil or use your phone. But PC also has many other benefits so I guess it's a win-win.
One big advantage a mid or even low end gaming PC has is that it runs Windows, and can be used for all sorts of things a console can't.
And it's still cheaper in the long run since you don't need a subscription and the games are way cheaper. Even a mid tier pc will at least break even with a console in seven years (with subscription). It has a different distribution of cost and the upfront price should be seen more as an investment for something that will provide you with greater returns in the long run. And yeah with the versatility of being an open platform instead of a closed system it's a no brainer.
@@daukwin Console games are cheaper too lmao.. you can find used physical games at throw away prices and digital games go on sale literally every week on ps and xbox stores, not everybody pays and plays online and you can literally jailbreak consoles and pirate games there for free like pc.. as for OP's point on running windows and whatever nobody buys a console to do pc stuff on it, they buy consoles to play games because thats what they're literally made for, so that's a completely irrelevant and nonsensical argument.
@@EX0007 I don't think consoles have Fanatical and Humble bundle, which provide insanely good deals. Nor do I think they have Epic games and GOG giving away free games all the time that you keep forever regardless of a subscription. I think if you only play modern AAA singleplayer games, or the biggest multiplayer games like the battle royale ones AND you already have a decent pc for internet browsing/work or whatever then I can see consoles being good value. My argument was that even for gaming only pc is probably the better value, especially if you play more than like 5 games a year and/or like indie stuff. The ability to do everything else on it is just a really nice bonus. Idk about you but most people I know just use their phones for everything and would stand to benefit from a pc.
I agree with OP but it seems a lot of people have the notion that the higher cost premium of pc is just for the benefit of being a pc that can do more stuff than just gaming. And I just wanted to point out that even for gaming only it's not as expensive as it seems! For sure though consoles have their place for certain people but most gravitate toward them for convenience and they pay a price for that.
@@EX0007 I don't think consoles have Fanatical and Humble bundle, which provide insanely good deals. Nor do I think they have Epic games and GOG giving away free games all the time that you keep forever regardless of a subscription. I think if you only play modern AAA singleplayer games, or the biggest multiplayer games like the battle royale ones AND you already have a decent pc for internet browsing/work or whatever then I can see consoles being good value. My argument was that even for gaming only pc is probably the better value, especially if you play more than like 5 games a year and/or like indie stuff. The ability to do everything else on it is just a really nice bonus. Idk about you but most people I know just use their phones for everything and would stand to benefit from a pc.
It seems a lot of people think that the higher cost premium of pc is just for the benefit of being a pc that can do more stuff than just gaming. And I just wanted to point out that even for gaming only it's not as expensive as it seems! For sure though consoles have their place for certain people but most gravitate toward them for convenience and they pay the price.
@daukwin I'd argue that if someone is only going to game, console would be better
The one advantage people don’t bring up for pc, is the price of games. You could own a computer and never pay full price for any game. Maybe in the short term it costs a little more to get into, but I promise you’ll save 15%-50% on every game you buy if you want to.
Totally, also huge indie collection, there are many great games 1-10 usd on steam. Free epic games, big steam and epic discounts.
And pirating games is a lot easier
@@trabant601e sure there is pirating but since I started to make my own money i didn't pirated any game. I never been someone that felt need of playing most recent aaa games and only buy at big discounts. Gaming is really cheap that way. Also let me use my computer has long life. Really dont need pirating that way.
i get what you're saying but honestly you can always buy second hand disks which means that you actually owning the game unlike if you buy from other places(exept gog) and it's even cheaper than most deals in aaa games, in indie its also makes things cheaper but not as much, and tbh a lot of the ps store deals are really good. the actual problem with consoles is the online service. if i buy a game that has online or even worse the whole game is online game and i don't have ps plus i'm ducked.
Don’t forget you need to pay 70 usd a year to play online with friends for both Microsoft and Sony.
I’m straight up pirating windows
me too, I used my brothers win 10 key he already used, and I found a yt video telling me to make some notepad and run it in command prompt and the shit straight up activated my windows. Now I got windows 11 and it still says activated, but there's no key 💀💀
@@maybacher teach me your ways
That’s fair, I just bought mine for like $20
@@locus2427 (deleting this comment means y'all got smol balls xD) i got mine for 4$ from gamers outlet
istg these moderators wont even let me say from which place i got my windows key 😭
I have worked on three different rigs and learned alot. I would recommend starting on the low end and working your way up.
More if that same low end can be easily upgradable
Seen a video bought random parts that part picker was OK with and made changes on the fly when a better mobo showed up in amazon and you really don't need any instructions worked fine for me
@@Lycanthropean720thats why u choose the damn am5 mobo like a b650 at least and u get all premium features like pcie 4.0, ddr5 with OC etc
Also let's not forget that you don't just use the PC for entertainment. It's a work station as well, especially useful in this day and age where everything is digital and online. That's why I am saving up for a more expensive PC which would be complete overkill for gaming alone, but will work great for all the programmes I need to run.
PC gaming is a great investment for the long term, saving money on games and upgrades.
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People that say consoles are the cheap option don't know what they are talking about. 500$ console plus 100$ a year for membership is 1000$ over 5 years, you can easily get a PC for that amount
You're talking about the most expensive tiers. Anyone that can pay that much for no actual gain, doesn't need to worry about money.
@@lucky4d725 what are you talking about? its 10 bucks a month x 12 = 120$ x the life span of the console 5 or 6 years = 600-720$ just for membership
@lucky4d725the cheapest tier on playstation is $80 a year
You need to upgrade a PC every couple of years easily to run the top games. Even if you start with a $700 PC, you will need to spend another $300+ on a new graphics card in 2-5 years time, then another $100-200 on a PSU, then another $150-300+ on a new CPU to make sure not to bottleneck your new GPU.
Of course, this can be solved by spending more on your PC in the first place, but that defeats the purpose. Also, Xbox live gold + game pass is $60 for the year, and the Series S is like $330 rn. PCs are far superior to consoles in most aspects, but they are undeniably extremely expensive and time consuming.
@@oscarjenkins7505 Consoles can’t play games at maxed graphics settings and high fps to begin with. What’s your point?
reason why u should do midrange for PC:
1. usually best price/performance
2. the resale value are not that falling down
3. worth it for future-proof
The first 2 are correct
Sadly even a 4080 will be obsolete in 5 years
@@kennyoffhenny
4080 are midrange ?? 4K gaming are considered high end
@@i_zoru a 4090 is a 1440p card but you ain’t ready to talk about that
true, i just wanna play my favorite game
KMS, my dude, KMS. Works every time.
This comment, but take it out of context and replace the M in KMS with a Y
@@B10KPlaysGames ahahahah :D
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@@B10KPlaysGames kms = kill my self
What does that mean?
Zach cheating with keysfan😢. Poor GVGMALL
gamer outlet is also a good option tho. W10P OS for like 4$
massgravel on top
free windows activator:
why does my... comment always get deleted lmao
all i said was that gamer outlet has cheaper keys wtf?
@@someguywithmtndew5691lol i use it on all of my computers and upgrade to windows pro or enterprise
Once a rookie, only have 400 dollars, once thought buying a concole, now I'm addicted to pc building
no
It takes more skill to build a well balanced budget pc than an expensive one
Crock of crap, you can literally just watch a video of someone else listing what components to buy, and then buy them and build.
Knowing a deep understanding of all PC components is not required at all.
@@ChristopherCraven i am sorry that you confused me for someone who cares about your opinion
@@jipillow1 I'm sorry you thought this was about me expecting you to care, I was just pointing out how ridiculous your point was. You don't need to care about it, I just needed everyone else who read it to know the fault in that logic
Takes the same amount of skill to build only difference is your researching budget components more
@@Crownerased so you dont consider researching a skill?
I built my current (first) PC for $650 back in 2020, when all the part prices dipped momentarily! Upgraded some little bits and bobs here and there, new M.2, upgraded RAM, but my CPU and GPU are still going strong! I think I did great! Although my GTX 1660 GPU is starting to show its age now.
brother just upgread to 6700xt or wait for new gen mid tier AMD GPU I'll tell you you wont regret it
Get a used 3080 for 300-350.
I bought a mid grade pre built and am slowly upgrading it
I'm 13 and I've learned a ton from your channel, I love building PCs and all of my friends and family ask me for advice cuz in Pakistan all we care about is price to performance and that's the path I got my friends and family to walk instead of all aesthetics, thanks for all your help
He overlooked one thing here. With PC you can do so much more. Most people tend to use another device for something else. With the PS5, you are very limited. You can only play games, and it has limited streaming apps or video content. It all comes down to your needs.
Are you high or what people who buy a ps5 or an Xbox only want to game and have a system that lasts them for 8 years
@@Fetska1 finally someone spoke facts
@Fetska1 That's a fair point. A gaming PC is going to cost more than a ps5. If you were to build a pc that is going to have similar specs to a ps5. My argument is that most people tend to have a laptop and a games console, so why not just have one. The lack of upgrades and it is going to be more difficult to repair a ps5. Anyways, like I said, it comes down to the individuals needs.
@@Fetska1 Having a PC is not a hassle. Its an advantage. 😂
@@UzairAli-iy5jhconsole fanboy fs
I just built my third computer, and it just so happened to be my dream computer. Total cost was approximately $5,000. Super proud of myself ❤
Congrats! Hope to join you one day. Right now I'm just living the build a solid budget pc and repeat once a decade hahaha
What are your specs?
@@sambeezy007 Ryzen 7800X3D, AMD 7900 XTX, 128GB DDR5 RAM, Gold and Platinum 1TB and 2TB (respectively) SK Hynix SSD’s, 2TB and 8TB Seagate Barracuda HDD’s, 1000W SuperFlower Leadex VII PSU, all in a Fractal Torrent. Super happy with it. Plus miscellaneous stuff like fans, cooler, monitor, peripherals, etc..
Finally a pc building channel that has the objectively superior mindset. Look at what you have, lay out your options, and choose depending on what you want. I’m a pc hobbyist at heart but I still love consoles, especially older ones.
also. the pc might be 500$ but dont forget that not all you have to buy
Don't forget how much more Console games cost. You can get a bundle of 10+ AAA PC games for 20 bucks. Have fun doing that on console.
@@Liminal.Headspaceyeah maybe ones a decade old
@@Liminal.Headspace There's also the free Epic Games Store weekly game, so in a year you get 52 new games to play
@@Liminal.Headspaceyou can also download any game for free if you pirate it lmao
People forget this. A console has everything you need besides a tv, but most people already have one. If you want an even remotely decent set of peripherals you’re easily looking at spending well over another hundred to get your monitor, headset, keyboard, and mouse (assuming most people at least have a basic mousepad).
Practicing on prebuilt PCs are always a great way to get started
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I saved up and built my own computer at 18. I actually got my R9 270X 4GB on my 18th birthday. All these years of buying second hand, learning the ins and outs of buying, assembling and using my hardware has lead me to owning dozens of Facebook/eBay/Craigslist systems. It's why I love channels like yours. I didn't get a high end system till far later and even then, my only all new system was my first build when I was a kid. Lol
A legit key... yeahhh... mhm... thats totally what ill do..
I recommend learning before you can afford it. There is a lot of stuff I learned while I was gathering money. If I had the money from the start I am sure I would have made a lot of mistakes. Now that i have finished my pc and it works well there is still mistakes i am finding out about my pc.
Gaming PC would be cheaper in the long run because you save so much money not having to pay for online gaming all the money you save on online gaming you can save for upgrades for the PC
Don't get me wrong, I choose PC any day of the week. But considering the price of my PC, I could buy an Xbox Series X, and pretty much a lifetime of Game Pass subscriptions are dumb but really cheap.
My pc and monitor together are worth around £1000 so it would take roughly 10 years of gamepass and an xbox series x to become more expensive than my pc.
Specs:
Amd ryzen 5800x
Corsair LPX DDR4 3600MHZ 16gbx2 c16
Zotac blower rtx 2080 ti
Msi b550m pro-vdh wifi
Corsair 750w modular psu
Koorui 1440p 144hz va gaming monitor curved.
Corsair h105 240mm aio
Xbox and Sony have shittier games? Concord? Just shut down. Star Wars Outlaws? Bad. The upcoming new heist game Sony was promoting? Looks terrible.
Xbox out here firing so many devs and closing studios.
Just stay away from console now.
I like these shorts. So much value just like that.
Day 70 of asking a good gpu for core i7 6700
RTX 6969 -0.2mb GDDR9
rtx 4090
edit: not to be mean but imagine spending 70 days begging a yter for advice instead of using all that time to do basic research
Don't waste your time. 😂
GTX 1060 4gb, GTX 1660 6gb, GTX 1070 8gb, RTX 2060 6gb. That list shows GPU's. The List shows bottleneck from least to greatest, with th 1060 having the lowest bottleneck, and the 2060 having the highest bottleneck. They will both work fine, just that they will be limited by the i7 6700. Hope this helps! ALSO! ENSURE YOUR PSU HAS EITHER A 6 PIN, 8 PIN, OR 2 SATA CABLES (use a 2x sata to 6 pin) SO YOU CAN SUPPLY ENOUGH POWER TO THE GPU!
A gtx 1650 super is around the level of performance adequate for a i7 6700. I would have said the rx 6600xt but the cpu bottle necks it at 1080p gaming.
With a cpu+ motherboard combo as old as 6th gen intel, it’s more worth it in the long run to just upgrade the entire system rather than buying an outdated graphics card for an outdated system.
i need to find a video all about pcs like literally everything, maybe an hour or two long that can guide me through all this
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I agree with this tbh. There's a difference between a budget pc and a low end pc. Mid tier and up is the way to go.
When I had my first thought of getting a computer, I had an option, build a pc or get it pre built knowing I was on a “budget” and I heard that building my own was a better option and “cheap”, ever since then I literally did non stop research, every night I watched UA-camrs build a pc to keep me motivated, when I ordered the first 2 parts that came in, I knew that was the moment to keep it up, and now, I’ve been my first ever pc around 800$ it took around 3-4 hours for me and I absolutely love it.
I got my gigabyte K5 gaming laptop for no more than $650. Its my first "gaming PC" and has been more than adequate to test the waters of PC gaming. Honestly starting small never hurts
Pc part picker is your best friend with this too specially if your working within a budget.
It lets the builder see the different parts and versions of parts currently available with recent price tags.
it’ll tell you what is compatible with what and can give a good rough estimate on how much of a punch your wallets gonna take before even starting.
it’s how I found out the Msi b550 G plus is completely compatible with the amd ryzen 7 5800 X after the bios update 😅
Great website for spending money on and saving too
I love PC now. I have found myself using it for more than gaming. Simple things like having discord on a separate monitor and having it for 3-D printing is also very nice. Of course my games look awesome. But if you just want plug and play, I 100% understand that as well.
Learning is easy but matching the right combination to optimally use budget
I'm jumping in with both feet. Im going to make a 1080p rig to play older titles. Plus I'm building my own wood tower. That part intrigues me the most.
the problem with low budget tiers is that for one its becoming harder and harder to achieve and even if you get something together people expect it to be much better than a console. use console like settings and 30/60 fps caps and its possible.
I have consoles because I do freelance work from home on my pc. Thus any time spent on pc feels like work. The consoles are in a separate room so that I won't get tempted to go and check my email again. Luckily graphics and whatnot are never an issue when all my favourite games are from the PS2 era ❤
The Rog Ally is basically a mid tier gaming PC. I've been carrying mine at work and know a few people that are interested in getting one.
I'm pretty sure you can get an open box non extreme version for around 300 in the next year, 500 for the extreme Ally once the Ally X drops.
The problem is that my usage is not only gaming, my career also makes me need a good graphic card and my university makes me need a good cpu
And at the same time my budget is not that good, in my country prices are really high and some things are not even findable
My budget is around 800 dollars (hardly) so I still seek your guidance
Over 2 years, starting with a $50 fb marketplace "gaming" pc built in 2012, I built it into my own. Not just 1 but 2 cause my wife has one as well. 3 weeks ago, I finished off our builds with new cases. To say off the drop end is an understatement lol. But PCs have $1300 each in them. They both have ryzen7 5700x cpu, rtx3060 gpu running 32g of ram, on an msi B-550-A pro motherboard. I just wish i had went bigger on the gpu at the end of the day, but they are both very solid machines.
I made that mistake. I bought a 1000€ pc and i found out it was a office pc and it has integrated intel graphics.
Mind blown hearing Zach recommend a console over a PC! 😳
Another thing is it's easier to keep old programs/games with a PC the sales on games seem to be better to so you might be able to save that way as well.
The hobby is definitely a big learning process but there is nothing better than the feeling of seeing a system post when you were getting nothing after many different troubleshooting steps.
(Sometimes you just need to re seat components until it works)
This is exactly what I did, I’ve been on console for about 7 years and I’m now building a $1,500 PC. I am overly excited and anxious considering alls left to by is the cpu then My neighbor and I will build it
Just don't fall into the upgrade hype(unless you just want to), and you'll be gaming for years and years and years on it.
I'm still using my $800 PC(1060 and i5 8400) that I built almost a decade ago.
I'm almost 4 gens behind and using the budget card from that gen and STILL playing stuff like Elden ring np
Part of knowing what you're doing is patience.
I built my first PC from the ground up with only $1400. It took me six hours to go from box to fully built. I followed every instruction to the T, and after firing it up, I have only had to make two replacements in the lifetime of my PC, which has been two years
I'm a console gamer but ive decided to try and build my own PC.
I know absolutely nothing about it and dont really have a budget per se.
My plan is to buy a couple of parts every month until I have everything and then give it a go.
Wish me luck.
I’m slowly but surely buying each piece as I get the money to. It will take longer yes but I will eventually have everything I want without having to sacrifice performance for price.
You should include the budged for the peripheral like mouse, keyboard, monitor, etc
I did. And it's soo fun. Time consuming? As f but fun as f as well. Thank you for all the tip. As soon as I install TikTok on my phone I'll ask what you think of my budget setup. 🙏
I love your videos. Been watching you for a year now
I remember back when i was in middle school, i built my first pc with fx-8350 and gtx 750 ti and it lasted so long without being obsolete til my gpu breaks basically the right side of my screen became purple. After that i upgrade with fx-9570 and rtx 2070. Now i feel like i have to upgrade every year, games and my productivity programs actually keep on demanding more and more vram. The only good thing is that newer cpu and gpu actually have low power consumption so i got no need to upgrade my 12 years old psu.
Humble opinion as a pc builder: if you don’t value modding and you only care about gaming, Pc under $400 might be a mistake, Ps5 probably lasts 5-10 years, includes controller and you can get it with $399 new. Compare to pc which is $400 with a decent mouse and keyboard will never ever last 10 years “ your parts probably will be 20 years old “ or can run a game at 4k with 60 fps. Specially if you like to buy parts new!
True, especially in the EU with the exception of Germany, I've seen many PS5 boxes combined with €100 gift cards attached to them, which is better than a PC since for the same price, which is €500, would either get you an entry-level PC for basic tasks or an old PC with a good CPU and a used graphics card, both of them require luck, I've tried building a PC from Pcpartpicker and I could make a PC with a R 5 3600 and Arc A580 under €500 in Italy, so it's possible to some extent, but it won't run the latest games at 4k, the experience would be much worse than consoles.
A PC will last the same as a console, unless they cheat like they did on RDRII, where the console versions use lower than low settings in order to have a decent performance. And consoles run nowhere near 4K & 60 FP/s on 94% of the titles, in fact, they've been having trouble to have decent performance at 1080p on the latest releases.
@@Rullino32Consoles don't run at 4K, they barely hit 1440p... 4K was already difficult to reach on old titles from PS4 since they had to sacrifice graphic settings & use upscaling or DRS, even GTAV, a game from PS3 does not run at 4K since it's using DRS on Fidelity Mode.
The thing is, I want a PC because I do more than gaming and a console doesn't give me that versatility. Right now where I live I see a pre-built with a Ryzen 5 5600G for around 400 USD
You should mention that it also depends on where you live. 500 USD for a 1080p monster just isn't possible here in the philippines. Electronics get a jump in price here the moment they arrive unless you want every single major component to be used parts.
You seem like an expert in PC matters.
But I realized this was an ad when you talked about buying keys for windows!!!😂😂
400 hundred is a plenty. I would be having fun trying out old hardware in the used market. Old xeon and used mining gpu, etc.
How do you feel about me getting the parts myself and paying for someone else to put it together
I would like to see your 1 non budget ,non FPS per dollar build for 2000 at least. With good aesthetics , not too much rgb , just overspent a bit on nice rams , MB etc :)
I wanted a very high end PC with good specs but couldn't find somebody who could even build it. 😂
I will never understand why people focus on building the best pc to not even play videogames 😭
I remember staying HOURS controlling which GPU was better when I had to build my pc 🤣
and what did you get?
@@Khel-i6q I bought a RTX 4060 new since I had 50€ discount, though it was damaged so I asked a refund and got a 3070 for the same price new since it was discounted 100€
I built my first PC last year after 3 months of research from watching UA-cam vids by ZTT, ScatterVolt, PC Builder and more.
I ended up getting the Ryzen 5 5600 with RX 6700 XT (used) and in total my build cost me around $600. Learning how to build your own PC is definitely worth it 👍
One thing that I learned from a friend on a budget buying a console. It's that games are so damn EXPENSIVE! We PC gamers out here be eatin' good thanks to gaben slapping green % left and right
exactly and if you have no money and desperately trying to play a new game you can always look for cracked versions
Modding games alone make the PC more worth it to me especially since I love playing Bethesda games
Just literally have a SteamDeck and you're all set.
Daaamn helpful, thanks bro❤
yeah, my PC is not the best for gaming as i was a complete little rookie back in 2020, but i only wanted it to be something i could play Minecraft with at like 60FPS on full 1080p with multitasking so, win win
In Europe prices are higher, so it is not possible to build 500$ or even 100$ equivalent gaming PC.
At best in Europe for 100$ would be possible to build a PC with used parts based on LGA1155 or 1150.
True, but used PCs aren't affected by taxes and they're priced lower so they could free up the inventory as soon as possible.
As for the EU taxes, that's true, it's frustrating to see americans recommending me something just because it's cheaper in the US.
The problem is that consoles sell regular people the “4K” bs.
i dont get it why people say pc is soo expensive i mean im a 14 yo and bought a fujitsu esprimo p920 for 30 bucks (16 gig ddr3 500 gig samsung sata ssd core i7 4970 random 300 watt power supply) and im really happy i added a gtx 1050 ti and i got intrestet and build more and more a other thing it is that we can get sooo much performance through software line amd frs or dsll and even windows settings can give a huge fps boost so always be happy what you have and keep going
You don't need to "learn the hobby" you just need to follow a guide or ask a friend. Stuff like this just puts people off.
Well, I was a low-spec gamer all my life until a few years ago, but right now I'd like to build a mid-level gaming PC for a couple more years.
A steam deck gives you access to a lot of pc gaming options as well for the price of a console
True, Linux gaming is underrated.
Problem is that too many kids nowadays, and their parenys, don't let/trust a friend to help out in building 1st PC
Met a 12yo yesterday, bought a CPU fromnhim. He said is building his 3rd PC atm, he started with 1st one when he was 8yo - this is so rare!
Got me a nice 3080ti set up a couple year's ago still use my consoles for flatscreen gaming lol
The thing is, if you build your mid-tier gaming rig properly, your $1200 for only 1 device will be equal too or cheaper than the price of a console ($500+) plus a $500-700 general use PC/tablet over the same period of time, if it lasts for at least 6 years. If you would never use a PC otherwise, then yeah, stick with a console.
The mobility of a tablet/laptop is pretty important for productivity tho, I feel like people may end up getting one regardless if they have a PC or not
If you have the money for a PC, go PC all the way. If your on a budget and just want a nice gaming experience? get a used wii and some mario games, crazy good for like $100 if you get it at the right place
I say go with both if you can, sinply because you can then get the exclusive games to console, easily game on your TV on a comfy chair or couch, and still be abole to play PC games too.
I am soon to be getting a PC. Since you are a professional, would you recommend getting one off Amazon or Best Buy?
Still rocking an unverified copy out of sheer greed
I'm new to PC building. I have a friend who knows how to build one, and he's been very helpful. (Of course, I'm doing my own research, which is why I watch these videos) and when I have everything purchased. I'll probably have spent about $1,100. On just the PC parts. I also got a new desk, chair, keyboard, and mouse. And I need a new monitor that will run 4k, as my GPU can run 4k. I was gonna buy a monitor that could run 1080p, but then I saw your video about how monitors can bottleneck a GPU. I am unfortunately gonna have to spend a bit more on a better monitor😅
People telling everyone should buy consoles for "budget reasons" are absolutely ridiculous.
I built my first pc in about 15 years during the pandemic- i5,1050ti and 16gb ddr4 with a 1tb ssd and it's still running. I recently upgraded mine and my daughter's to whole new set ups - 250hz monitor, i7 12700f, 32gb ram,2tb ssd and a 4070 12gb back in January and what an upgrade. I gave the missus my ps5 as she didn't want a pc. I had to laugh at my mate complaining about updates on console so showed him how awkward DCS can be 😂😂😂😂.
Me watching this on my $4000 pc: 👁👄👁
I would put it this way: if you have low budget, are not that into PCs and ONLY really care about gaming, get a console. If you're planning on doing something else with your pc other than gaming, then invest some time in learning the basics of pc build and build yourself something that'll get the job done, or ask for help, there could be somebody out there that knows about the subject that is willing to help you because this community loves to tinker a lot
The day BloodBorne Emulation on Pc gets better, it’s OVER for Consoles😫💯
Bruh that comment is 100% inaccurate i literally have a 360$ pc and it runs every game 😂
Literally the hardest thing about building a pc is the cable management. Everything else is cake and requires no exp or advance knowledge. The parts only go into the slots that they fit into. You literally can’t mess up. I’ve been building custom pcs for 15 years and teach people how to build. There’s nothing to it.
It depends, if youre only gaming then yes a console is better, but if you need to do school work or remote work for a job, the conputer is worth.
when factoring in the cost for online services, the price of games and replacing your controllers (they are built to break), then a pc is only more expensive because you have to pay upfront
I Love PC Gaming I’ve Been Playing PC Games Since I Was 10 I’m 20 now and when I got my first PC when I was 14 in 2017 I quickly realised how complicated issues on PC can be like having to Mod games so they work properly or just average trouble shooting issues when things go wrong Consoles are Dummy Proof honestly i don’t want to deter someone from PC gaming but just know fixing things is apart of the experience take pride in knowing how to fix the problems you didn’t know how to fix before
i started with a ps3, got a ps4 the week it came out in 2014, and had been using that ps4 until about 2 years ago when i built my first gaming pc, with an rx 580 and an i7 4790k. best gaming decision ive ever made, i have/will be saving so much money i wouldve otherwise been spending on playstation plus, as well as now having the ability to play almost any game on the market/do work online
You can get official windows straight from their website and then activate them without even buying a license
Buy an old office pc, upgrade, then buy a whole new pc its the best experience to learn stuff
Idk if a 1080p build really qualifies as a “monster”