The Open Forum Episode 27

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  • Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
  • Episode 27 of 'The Open Forum' where Christians are invited to join the discussion with our panelists Hamza, Ijaz, Sadat, Abbas, Nazam & Imran. Guests will be invited on a first come first serve basis. Please note we can only have a maximum of 10 panelists (including efdawah panelists) at any one time. Link to join the panel :
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    Timestamps/Chapters:
    0:00 - Intro
    0:49 - Brothers Abbas & Imran join
    1:00 - Purpose of this stream & other stream
    2:12 - Stream being only for Non-Muslims
    2:58 - Trying to verify Sheen's identity
    4:44 - Muslim guest joins & salams exchanged
    5:00 - Dawah discussion in VR
    7:43 - Pastor Jason: connecting issues
    9:26 - Continued Discussion on VR Dawah
    10:10 - Young Welsh: Corruption of previous revelations if Allah's ﷻ words can't be changed
    23:58 - Suleiman asks to the link for the previous arena stream
    24:33 - Muslim guest given information about the streams
    25:51 - Sean (Christian): echo issues
    26:38 - The message of the Bible being consistent despite the contradictions
    30:13 - Catholics vs Protestants on changing the Bible
    33:41 - Issue of the Preservation of the Bible
    39:40 - Message of the Bible being that Jesus is God
    40:33 - The Doctor's Diagnosis 🩺 on the previous two topics
    49:16 - Claim of Qur'an saying that previous scriptures aren't corrupted
    50:16 - Corruption of the previous scriptures
    52:17 - Why is the Bible Holy ?
    52:42 - Prophecies in the Bible
    57:23 - Anonymous authors of the Bible
    59:24 - Prophecy vs Foreshadowing in the Bible regarding the sacrifice
    1:03:56 - Message of the Bible regarding the nature of Jesus PBUH
    1:05:05 - The Consistent and simple message of the Qur'an
    1:10:19 - Christian academia differing on the nature of Jesus PBUH
    1:14:23 - Following the authentic teachings of Jesus PBUH & struggle of faith in Christianity
    1:18:00 - Guidance from God in a clear manner
    1:21:50 - Carol: fails to join
    1:22:30 - Seeker of truth (Hindu): Sects in Hinduism
    1:24:13 - Goal of the muslims
    1:25:25 - Definition of truth
    1:27:25 - Beliefs of Vaishnavism: Reincarnation
    1:28:28 - What is the goal of a human in Islam ?
    1:29:24 - Avatars (Manifestation) in Hinduism
    1:31:11 - Nature of God in Hinduism
    1:37:55 - Worshipping Only Vishnu/Krishna out of the other deities
    1:39:45 - Differentiating between different Avatars
    1:41:56 - God's nature and message of Islam
    1:44:27 - Establishing the truth of Sources of Hinduism
    1:46:05 - Personal journey of the guest and leaving Celibacy
    1:50:26 - Robust concept of One God in Islam
    1:52:37 - Leaving the presence of God to face trials on Earth
    2:03:25 - Pleasures of Paradise in Islam
    2:08:00 - Is God personal or impersonal ?
    2:10:21 - Humans being driven by pleasure & enjoying it in Paradise
    2:15:18 - Salvation not being exclusive in Hinduism
    2:17:25 - Concept of Karma
    2:19:30 - Brothers Nazam & Jake pay a surprise visit
    2:21:46 - Unitarian Christian: Monotheism in the Bible & Prophets representing God
    2:27:35 - Interacting with Muslims in Alaska
    2:28:47 - Brothers Yusuf, Jake and Nazam join
    2:29:32 - Unitarian Christians' view on Islam
    2:32:58 - God's role in spreading Monotheism through Islam from the perspective of a Christian/Jew
    2:38:54 - Was Prophet Muhammad ﷺ decieved by Satan in the cave ?
    2:43:21 - Analysing Paul's vision & his teachings contradicting with the Disciples
    2:45:00 - Claim of Satan creating Trinity & Islam to deter people from the truth
    2:52:50 - No Original Sin in Islam
    2:55:35 - God requiring payment through the sacrifice of Christ in Christianity
    3:02:15 - Claim of Gabriel not visiting Prophet Muhammad ﷺ & his experiences after that encounter
    3:05:14 - The Doctor's Diagnosis 🩺 of the previous claims
    3:11:42 - Angel Gabriel not identifying himself to various other people
    3:14:46 - Invitation offered to Christian to come on the perfect storm
    3:15:50 - Christian explains his views
    3:17:53 - Belief in Crucifixion & Resurrection being necessary for Salvation
    3:22:42 - Can God forgive sin or does he need blood payment ?
    3:24:09 - Closing Statements, Updates & Wrapping Up
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  • @asadullahsaaid3794
    @asadullahsaaid3794 2 роки тому +105

    *Timestamps:*
    0:00 - Intro
    0:49 - Brothers Abbas & Imran join
    1:00 - Purpose of this stream & other stream
    2:12 - Stream being only for Non-Muslims
    2:58 - Trying to verify Sheen's identity
    4:44 - Muslim guest joins & salams exchanged
    5:00 - Dawah discussion in VR
    7:43 - Pastor Jason: connecting issues
    9:26 - Continued Discussion on VR Dawah
    10:10 - Young Welsh: Corruption of previous revelations if Allah's ﷻ words can't be changed
    23:58 - Suleiman asks to the link for the previous arena stream
    24:33 - Muslim guest given information about the streams
    25:51 - Sean (Christian): echo issues
    26:38 - The message of the Bible being consistent despite the contradictions
    30:13 - Catholics vs Protestants on changing the Bible
    33:41 - Issue of the Preservation of the Bible
    39:40 - Message of the Bible being that Jesus is God
    40:33 - The Doctor's Diagnosis 🩺 on the previous two topics
    49:16 - Claim of Qur'an saying that previous scriptures aren't corrupted
    50:16 - Corruption of the previous scriptures
    52:17 - Why is the Bible Holy ?
    52:42 - Prophecies in the Bible
    57:23 - Anonymous authors of the Bible
    59:24 - Prophecy vs Foreshadowing in the Bible regarding the sacrifice
    1:03:56 - Message of the Bible regarding the nature of Jesus PBUH
    1:05:05 - The Consistent and simple message of the Qur'an
    1:10:19 - Christian academia differing on the nature of Jesus PBUH
    1:14:23 - Following the authentic teachings of Jesus PBUH & struggle of faith in Christianity
    1:18:00 - Guidance from God in a clear manner
    1:21:50 - Carol: fails to join
    1:22:30 - Seeker of truth (Hindu): Sects in Hinduism
    1:24:13 - Goal of the muslims
    1:25:25 - Definition of truth
    1:27:25 - Beliefs of Vaishnavism: Reincarnation
    1:28:28 - What is the goal of a human in Islam ?
    1:29:24 - Avatars (Manifestation) in Hinduism
    1:31:11 - Nature of God in Hinduism
    1:37:55 - Worshipping Only Vishnu/Krishna out of the other deities
    1:39:45 - Differentiating between different Avatars
    1:41:56 - God's nature and message of Islam
    1:44:27 - Establishing the truth of Sources of Hinduism
    1:46:05 - Personal journey of the guest and leaving Celibacy
    1:50:26 - Robust concept of One God in Islam
    1:52:37 - Leaving the presence of God to face trials on Earth
    2:03:25 - Pleasures of Paradise in Islam
    2:08:00 - Is God personal or impersonal ?
    2:10:21 - Humans being driven by pleasure & enjoying it in Paradise
    2:15:18 - Salvation not being exclusive in Hinduism
    2:17:25 - Concept of Karma
    2:19:30 - Brothers Nazam & Jake pay a surprise visit
    2:21:46 - Unitarian Christian: Monotheism in the Bible & Prophets representing God
    2:27:35 - Interacting with Muslims in Alaska
    2:28:47 - Brothers Yusuf, Jake and Nazam join
    2:29:32 - Unitarian Christians' view on Islam
    2:32:58 - God's role in spreading Monotheism through Islam from the perspective of a Christian/Jew
    2:38:54 - Was Prophet Muhammad ﷺ decieved by Satan in the cave ?
    2:43:21 - Analysing Paul's vision & his teachings contradicting with the Disciples
    2:45:00 - Claim of Satan creating Trinity & Islam to deter people from the truth
    2:52:50 - No Original Sin in Islam
    2:55:35 - God requiring payment through the sacrifice of Christ in Christianity
    3:02:15 - Claim of Gabriel not visiting Prophet Muhammad ﷺ & his experiences after that encounter
    3:05:14 - The Doctor's Diagnosis 🩺 of the previous claims
    3:11:42 - Angel Gabriel not identifying himself to various other people
    3:14:46 - Invitation offered to Christian to come on the perfect storm
    3:15:50 - Christian explains his views
    3:17:53 - Belief in Crucifixion & Resurrection being necessary for Salvation
    3:22:42 - Can God forgive sin or does he need blood payment ?
    3:24:09 - Closing Statements, Updates & Wrapping Up
    SUBHANALLAH ❤️🤍❤️
    Excellent Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
    _May Allah ﷻ bless you all and reward you for your efforts._ 🤲🏻

    • @dnd4074
      @dnd4074 2 роки тому +6

      Jazakallahu khair🙏

    • @asadullahsaaid3794
      @asadullahsaaid3794 2 роки тому +4

      ​@@dnd4074 وَإِيَّاك‎ ☺️😊

    • @noenamfam
      @noenamfam 2 роки тому +5

      Jazakallahu khair.. I always wait for your time stamp so it is easy for me (and I am sure all of us)..

    • @asadullahsaaid3794
      @asadullahsaaid3794 2 роки тому +4

      @@noenamfam جَزاكَ اللهُ خَـيْراً أخي ❤️

    • @nextlifethinktwice1030
      @nextlifethinktwice1030 2 роки тому +1

      Jazakhallah

  • @0marM0hammed
    @0marM0hammed 2 роки тому +22

    I'm so glad the hindu guy come on. I'm so lucky and blessed to be Muslim. I feel tearful in greatfulness that I am Muslim.

  • @samuelbeecham8955
    @samuelbeecham8955 2 роки тому +60

    Just have to say that Abbas is a great moderator and a underrated debater he makes excellent points. Imran is just so measured and precise and surgical he really systematically deconstructs arguments, Sadat was on fire 🔥 this stream excellent points and rebuttals a very knowledgeable brother follow him if you haven’t already…..still though I missed the Lion Hamza there was a lot of machine gun tactics and waffles and red herrings. Young Welsh was just determined to score a point and nommatyer what was said and explained had his biased mind made up. The Unitarian literally admitted that those who came before Jesus and didn’t even know if his message and those that came AFTER Jesus who didn’t know if his message could STILL enter Heaven without believing in him…..if this is the case what is the point of cruxifixction and resurrection??

  • @user-so5he3op1q
    @user-so5he3op1q 2 роки тому +12

    When I saw some non Muslim believes, i remember Allah blessed me with islam

  • @IsaDawah
    @IsaDawah 2 роки тому +37

    Assalamu alaikum, my beautiful brothers. I give dawah on TikTok and I run into these sorts all the time. The understanding is so inept, it's impossible to get through to these people. May Allah grant you sabr and goodness in this world and the next. Ameen ameen ameen.

    • @cure4islamophobia649
      @cure4islamophobia649 2 роки тому +2

      Assalamualikum Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh

    • @IsaDawah
      @IsaDawah 2 роки тому +2

      @@cure4islamophobia649 wa alaikum salam

  • @foldingspiral
    @foldingspiral 2 роки тому +12

    The way the brothers communicate and get the points across is next level. I find I learn allot from this in my own day to day life.

  • @markdoughty8780
    @markdoughty8780 2 роки тому +23

    I love these common/interfaith discourses; especially, when, like here, they are conducted with, civility, decorum and respect. These uploads are always educational and worthwhile tuning into; so, just to say, well done to all contributors, on both sides of the debate and looking forward to further uploads and debates/discussions.

    • @sutil5078
      @sutil5078 3 місяці тому

      thanks for your kind comment, feel free to continue here, if you have questions etc, have a lovely day

    • @markdoughty8780
      @markdoughty8780 3 місяці тому

      Thank you and will do. A great day to you too.@@sutil5078

  • @IntegritySyndicate
    @IntegritySyndicate 2 роки тому +14

    Good to see my friend Christian Man on the show at 2:21:41. A fellow Christian Unitarian here.

  • @thenewapproach1858
    @thenewapproach1858 2 роки тому +28

    I think Brother Hamza is tired i watched him the whole weekend working for the sake of Allah. Brother i admire your commitment to spreading Islam may Allah reward you in abundance....

    • @deadpoolstrikesagain3914
      @deadpoolstrikesagain3914 2 роки тому +1

      Miss him ...

    • @Chandransingham
      @Chandransingham 2 роки тому

      Good polemicist for Islam but sometimes he is loose cannon. Good Dawah is good. Bad Dawah is Bad. That's life.

    • @deadpoolstrikesagain3914
      @deadpoolstrikesagain3914 2 роки тому +1

      @@Chandransingham hes good...end of the day hes been an inspiration to many .

    • @shareefisaacs8328
      @shareefisaacs8328 2 роки тому +2

      @@Chandransingham That is your opinion which you entitled to. Doesn't mean you right.

    • @thenewapproach1858
      @thenewapproach1858 2 роки тому +1

      @@Chandransingham You know brother these brother offer up their time that they can spend with their families or relaxing i have watched every stream and you can see these brothers are tired. Remember they have day jobs and they run these streams. I don't only see and hear the message, I look at the person giving this message and can only admire their commitment to Allah our Rasool and the greater Ummah. Remember the brothers are not all from the same country and the timeline is different. Dr Imran, Brother Abbas, Brother Ijaz, Brother Sadat, Brother Hamza and every Du'at my Allah make it easy for you Inshallah and reward you in abundance.....

  • @lost_poet_
    @lost_poet_ 2 роки тому +18

    Suggestion: Have a caption permanently displayed on the screen with "Stream for Non Muslims Only" written across it to prevent Muslims joining and wasting time

  • @alvirarahman2690
    @alvirarahman2690 2 роки тому +4

    EFDawah has educated me more than any Islamic channel on UA-cam. Thanks brothers. My Dua goes for you ❤️

  • @HussainFahmy
    @HussainFahmy 2 роки тому +8

    *_If Trinity is a mystery, then Hindusism is a huge conundrum._*

    • @ssa6227
      @ssa6227 2 роки тому

      The religion is designed to fleece and control the poor.
      Only top class brahmans get all benefits. This is why they oppress low class Hindus.

  • @AbdullahAlMamun-iv7er
    @AbdullahAlMamun-iv7er 2 роки тому +5

    Love for brother Sadat

  • @tawAAkul
    @tawAAkul 2 роки тому +8

    I think young welsh has asked the same question about 5 times over many streams......he gets the same answer. SubhanAllah

  • @Ashleii
    @Ashleii 2 роки тому +10

    Br hamzas absence made some things clear. Without hamza it was great to hear more from Abbass Imran and especially Sadat who often doesn’t get that much time . His knowledge is amazing.
    Without hamza it’s also apparent that the wafflers really do waffle on. Hamza really controls everything to keep it on point and doesn’t let anyone get away with any nonsense. It’s also fun with him.
    I guess if hamza could slightly adjust to be mindful not to interrupt the brothers as much then the balance would be perfect. It’s already pretty much perfect. Absolutely love your channel.

  • @OmarEldemiri
    @OmarEldemiri 2 роки тому +5

    جزاكم الله خيراً

  • @DefrimIsai
    @DefrimIsai 2 роки тому +16

    TODAYS LESSON : BRO SADAT IS LIKE THE SHARPEST OF KNIVES - YOU DON'T EVEN FEEL IT WHEN THEY CUT YOU.

    • @jimfromwakanda7991
      @jimfromwakanda7991 2 роки тому +2

      Or like a hot knife through butter 🔪 🧈

    • @Jay-ks7ve
      @Jay-ks7ve 2 роки тому +2

      Brother Sadaat is Living up to His Name
      Which means Prince . . MashaAllah !

  • @woodriver5011
    @woodriver5011 2 роки тому +6

    الحمد لله على نعمة الإسلام وكفى بها نعمة وآخر دعوانا أن الحمد لله رب العالمين والصلاة والسلام على رسولنا الكريم ❤
    محمد صل الله عليه وسلم 💕

    • @michaelevans4110
      @michaelevans4110 2 роки тому +1

      Ameen.
      Jazak Allahu Khayran
      Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen

  • @lily72ad
    @lily72ad 2 роки тому +3

    Love brother Sadats points. Masha Allah he really hones in and shines a light on the inconsistencies of Christianity and Hinduism. May Allah swt preserve him, ameen. So glad he’s back!

  • @alih1214
    @alih1214 2 роки тому

    جزاكم الله خيرا

  • @DePeaceHunter
    @DePeaceHunter 2 роки тому +9

    I enjoy and learn from this stream a lot so far bc the discussion was done very respectfully, no cutting and shouting....no talking over each other, everyone was patient. It should be the golden rule of dawah.

    • @jimfromwakanda7991
      @jimfromwakanda7991 2 роки тому +1

      Sometimes it may seem like shouting and cutting but the thing is, these brothers have been speaking to people from other religions (especially christians) for years. They know exactly where certain arguments go. They know certain arguments are a waste of everyone's time and nothing is learned. You end up going round in circles for hours, so all the brothers do is try to keep people on point and get rid of that circle 🤣🤣

  • @homtanks7259
    @homtanks7259 2 роки тому +2

    Jazakallahu khairan

  • @abumansaray7
    @abumansaray7 2 роки тому +15

    Christianity has officially relinquished its position as the most confusing and nonsensical religion, and Hinduism has taken its spot. Well done, Hindus, you have achieved the impossible 👏🏿

  • @facilitieskhalid5769
    @facilitieskhalid5769 2 роки тому +1

    First time seeing brother sadat Mashaallah so good of explaining 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @rguiali
    @rguiali 2 роки тому +3

    Masa Allah what a nice stream again with the beloved brothers. Nice brother Jake has jumped into the stream to say hi. My Allah bless you all.

  • @wasimlhr
    @wasimlhr 2 роки тому +8

    Allah has made the truth simple. Made it part of your basic instinct. Accept it.

    • @wasimlhr
      @wasimlhr 2 роки тому +2

      I just picked off from where I left and MasAllah Brother Sadat said the same thing. SubanAllah!

  • @happiethijab8694
    @happiethijab8694 2 роки тому +5

    💙💙💙 Great stream Alhamdulillah ☝💙💙💙

  • @m.j4037
    @m.j4037 2 роки тому +1

    It's interesting to watch Imran listening and thinking.

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 2 роки тому +5

    May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!

  • @ThinkingFreedom
    @ThinkingFreedom 2 роки тому +24

    How can people question the utility a guy like Hamza brings to these streams? Notice how long the guests often rambled on and made 10 points at once? Normal dawah is probably effective in 1 on 1 personal discussions. For these sort of formats you need someone like Hamza on the panel. imo.

    • @ThinkingFreedom
      @ThinkingFreedom 2 роки тому +4

      hey Christian man don’t take my comment the wrong way. Are you the unitarian? I did not mean anything against you personally. I think the conversations you guys had are ideal for 1 to 1 personal convos and you seem a very personable guy and it was nice to see the discussion. It’s just that on these streams there’s so many people who want to join I think Hamzas style helps facilitate more discussion for everyone. I didn’t mean my comment in a negative way about you or the brothers hosting. Cheers

    • @andrewcohen786
      @andrewcohen786 2 роки тому

      @Christian Man please come back to the stream . As a Muslim I feel you will come to the light soon.

    • @andrewcohen786
      @andrewcohen786 2 роки тому

      @Christian Man wish you the best.

  • @micoberss5579
    @micoberss5579 2 роки тому +3

    I like how doctor Imran started wobbling his head when he was talking to Indian caller. 😂😂😂I used to do the same when dealing with Indian colleagues. They somehow understood me better when I wobbled my head

    • @sutil5078
      @sutil5078 3 місяці тому

      that was funny comment, I am not from India, are you? I revised Dr. Imran few section but did not see him wobbling his head.. haha funny comment though, thank you , indian do have a distinctive way of moving there head, also nick movent which hard to do.. , but I laughed at the word: wobbling hahaha.

  • @t3ucy
    @t3ucy 2 роки тому +2

    One of the best streams by far!

  • @HHasan-of2vi
    @HHasan-of2vi 2 роки тому +4

    I observed in my past experiences one thing common among people of major religions Christianity, Sanatan Dharma(Hinduism) even the deviant groups(innovators) in Islam using the ambiguous verses from the Scriptures to built the Theology, Doctrine and make their point.

  • @cheicknacamara651
    @cheicknacamara651 2 роки тому +3

    This was a beautiful conversation with the Unitarian

  • @haarlemcity3755
    @haarlemcity3755 2 роки тому +3

    Young welsh is Aaron from speaker corner

  • @daventry2
    @daventry2 2 роки тому +1

    JazakAllah Kher

  • @Just_logic
    @Just_logic 2 роки тому +7

    Anyone that says that I just want to interpret a vocabulary the way I want, then the discussion is over. Some fundamental common denominator must be established before any discussion. Shawn said “I don’t care what is the meaning of corruption”. Really??

  • @AdrianMuslim
    @AdrianMuslim 2 роки тому +1

    Wonderful stream. Alhamdulillah

  • @henriquesombiga4338
    @henriquesombiga4338 2 роки тому +3

    Today I was impressed by Abbas! Good job man. Behave in same way always.

  • @lionabbass
    @lionabbass 2 роки тому +8

    The Unitarian from Alaska should know that upon the end of the 1st revelation, the being called out which made the prophet SA looked heavenward and say a being that filled the whole horizon and said loudly so that the prophet SA heard what he said; you are the prophet of Allah and I am Jibril.
    The being identifies himself AS as Angel Gabriel. Definitely.

  • @peacenow6618
    @peacenow6618 2 роки тому +2

    Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza

  • @shohorabahamed3753
    @shohorabahamed3753 2 роки тому +12

    That young welsh guy is probably the most illogical, uneducated, arrogant person to have come on this stream. Because the team handled him with respect, it lasted, and his nature was not exposed.

    • @MalY481
      @MalY481 2 роки тому +3

      He is pentacostal, they put their mind in the box...

    • @raymonddarhk20
      @raymonddarhk20 2 роки тому +5

      Hamza would've exposed Young Welsh aka Snope's true nature. This welsh guy came to score points.

    • @shohorabahamed3753
      @shohorabahamed3753 2 роки тому +2

      @@raymonddarhk20 I agree.

    • @jimfromwakanda7991
      @jimfromwakanda7991 2 роки тому +1

      @@MalY481 you mean pentecostals use a different coloured box for their minds than other christians use 😉
      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @redsunflower8999
    @redsunflower8999 2 роки тому +6

    Just when I thought there wasn’t a religious more confused than Christianity, here comes Hinduism! 😶‍🌫️🤕

  • @ASK_633_SAM
    @ASK_633_SAM 2 роки тому +3

    The highlight of the steam the crash of bro Jake amazing 🤩 Mashallah Jazakom Allah khair brothers Sadat points and views are refreshing and makes you really ponder 💭

  • @caseycasey6961
    @caseycasey6961 2 роки тому

    Brilliant

  • @etwarhussain5406
    @etwarhussain5406 2 роки тому

    Brother Hamza is a true Lion does not take BS from Christians. He is straight to the point.
    May Allah protect you and may He give you give long life.

  • @mohamadharb3791
    @mohamadharb3791 2 роки тому +1

    ALL brother love you from Egypt.

  • @fawadkhan1884
    @fawadkhan1884 2 роки тому +5

    Loved the discussion! For a change it was nice to have the other guys take lead and steer the discussion on a slightly different route today. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing Bro Hamza knock the wind out of these Christians, but sometimes its good to have calmer discussions such as they allow people to put their guards down and ponder over what's being said rather than being on the defensive, finding ridiculous ways to defend their faiths and trying to score cheap points. However, for the rude and arrogant Christians or Atheists, I want Bro Hamza to continue bashing them!

    • @abbc1999
      @abbc1999 2 роки тому +1

      I think brother already explained this, he is many years in dawah, he knows better about how people feel around him

    • @kashshakoor7535
      @kashshakoor7535 Рік тому

      I completely disagree I think brother hamza does an extremely exceptional job of clearing the plat form for the real question that need to be addressed rather than wasting time with people that have subjective feelings and personal stories they want to share for the sake of attention rather than trying to learn the truth

    • @fawadkhan1884
      @fawadkhan1884 Рік тому

      @@kashshakoor7535 As I said, I do like his presence in the team, but sometimes its good to have a calmer discussion as he at times gets a little carried away (watch his discussion with a couple of Jews guys in the park, which he himself seems to have regretted as he clearly apologizes to them). But I do understand his perspective, as its not easy talking to hypocrites and most of them are super hypocritical! So I also don't blame him for acting that way.

  • @2dar2
    @2dar2 2 роки тому

    Thanks.

  • @kaz007
    @kaz007 2 роки тому +6

    Why wasn't Hamza on and only for a brief moment he was.

  • @vortexvampire
    @vortexvampire 2 роки тому +1

    بارك الله فيكم...
    اللهم اغفر لأبي و ارحمه و اجمعنا معه في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين..
    اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم..
    رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين...
    لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين.......بارك الله فيكم...
    اللهم اغفر لأبي و ارحمه و اجمعنا معه في الفردوس الأعلى مع الأنبياء و الشهداء و الصالحين و جميع موتى المسلمين..
    اللهم احقن دماء المسلمين و انصرهم على من عاداهم..
    رب إني مسني الضر و أنت أرحم الراحمين...
    لا إله إلا أنت سبحانك إني كنت من الظالمين.......

  • @ahmetomer5918
    @ahmetomer5918 2 роки тому +3

    Young welsh is aaron from spekears corner.the tall skinny guy.you can pick up his voice.
    He is hiding his identity.
    Very funny

  • @deadpoolstrikesagain3914
    @deadpoolstrikesagain3914 2 роки тому +1

    Couldnt help smiling when nazam and the boys peeped in for abit..a great group picture.

  • @raheelaali9767
    @raheelaali9767 2 роки тому

    Great points made brother Sadat, much respect brother 👍

  • @taimur74
    @taimur74 2 роки тому +2

    Good grief the desperation of young Welsh was hilarious to watch 🤣

  • @g7k993
    @g7k993 2 роки тому

    Alhamdulilah

  • @freeman7983
    @freeman7983 2 роки тому

    masha ALLAH

  • @Jay-ks7ve
    @Jay-ks7ve 2 роки тому

    Brother SADAAT .. really living up to His name which means Prince 👑! MashaAllah . ❤️

  • @jimfromwakanda7991
    @jimfromwakanda7991 2 роки тому +5

    The argument from consistency in message regardless of errors is ridiculous.
    The reason why there is consistency is because those choosing/making up what goes in the bible only collected and added books for the bible that had the same type passages and message (in some exact same copies word for word but "allegedly" different authors work). Unfortunately they didn't do a good job because they didn't bother looking in to the errors & mistakes or, what I think is, they didn't really care. Most of the population didn't and couldn't have access to an actual copy of the bible nor could they read.

  • @jauharahtuabbas8764
    @jauharahtuabbas8764 2 роки тому

    Bro 😎 Hamza … spot on ..
    I love your reasoning

  • @Jay-ks7ve
    @Jay-ks7ve 2 роки тому

    BROTHER SADAAT . Has very Deep knowledge ! And the manner in which He Delivers is next level MashaAllah !

  • @mattykress9613
    @mattykress9613 2 роки тому +1

    how emotional and agitated young welsh gets gives me really good energy great start to the morning.

  • @harbisulub
    @harbisulub 2 роки тому +1

    Asalamualaikum ahbabi, again, another amazing stream masha Allah tabaraka Allah. May Allah bless you all and your families in dunya and akhira, and may Allah guide your amazing guests you had on tonight. They were courteous and polite for the large part.
    And for those that came to the stream with a heavy heart and hatred for Islam and muslims, we love to have you on these streams and may Allah guide and cure your hearts. Amin

  • @iswallbanoo9843
    @iswallbanoo9843 2 роки тому +3

    Salaam only one God and it's Allah SWT love here from South Africa Johannesburg pray 5 times a day.

    • @michaelevans4110
      @michaelevans4110 2 роки тому

      Ameen.
      Jazak Allahu Khayran
      Alhamdulillahi rabbi al'alameen

  • @TechieBunny
    @TechieBunny 2 роки тому

    I must say, I've watched hours of these streams, debates, etc and Christians still manage to surprise me with their answers on the same topic. It's actually very impressive.

  • @faisalsiraj4607
    @faisalsiraj4607 2 роки тому +1

    ❤️

  • @shaanshaannu9589
    @shaanshaannu9589 2 роки тому +2

    Seeker of truth said '' God is infallible & he never fall'' but if u read stories of avatars, for example Lord Krishna fell on love with Radha, lord indra fell in love with ahalya wife of gauthum maharishi. It says Lord indra (King of heaven) took the avatar of husband of ahalya to love her. Like wise lord brahma and shiva. Also Lord shiva fell in love with lord vishnu (while vishnu took avatar of beautiful girl).

  • @Jay-ks7ve
    @Jay-ks7ve 2 роки тому

    ❤️Perfect team members ..❤️
    We have ...
    Did I miss anything out guys ? ...Ijaz
    it is what it is ....Hamza
    Let me explain it this way ....Sadaat
    Now here’s the cure ..... Dr Imran
    It’s Time to take the Shahada ... Abbas
    Now The choice is yours !!

  • @Just_logic
    @Just_logic 2 роки тому +2

    To the Unitarian
    Not a bad Satan if satan gave you all the righteous path.

  • @prasg1186
    @prasg1186 2 роки тому +1

    1:31:00 "Infinitrinity" ..I too will be borrowing this term 🤣🤣
    edit. Inshallah!!

  • @InquisitiveImran
    @InquisitiveImran 2 роки тому +2

    The 5 minutes that hamza occupied the stage had the christain's feet trembling with anger 😄 . And the hindu guy probably knew too much about hinduism but falied miserably in articulation.

  • @sutil5078
    @sutil5078 3 місяці тому +1

    1:43:30 Dr. imran forgot to say "ALLAH who is the one that cover us with his mercy" not prophet Muhammad pbuh, it is Allah . just clarification

  • @facilitieskhalid5769
    @facilitieskhalid5769 2 роки тому

    Sadat , imran and abbas so wonderful brothers you guys so good mashallah ❤ 💜 💖 💗 💕 ♥ ❤ 💜 💖 💗

  • @haikalrees9975
    @haikalrees9975 2 роки тому +6

    those that worship idol dont make sense...example they put a idol then say its for concentration purpose....
    how do you know God looks like your idol ? (nobody know how God look)
    or is it that idol is somekind of middleman to God ? (why would God need a middleman )

  • @Chandransingham
    @Chandransingham 2 роки тому

    Sean Roders said he was a Roman Catholic and gave a pretty good explanation of his faith. I liked it.

  • @shaheengk5352
    @shaheengk5352 2 роки тому

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @maximus9146
    @maximus9146 2 роки тому

    ☝🏻

  • @NeuroLot
    @NeuroLot 2 роки тому

    Does anyone knows what is the intro music?

  • @gamermikail007
    @gamermikail007 2 роки тому +2

    this is for the hindu guy... keep looking Islam from hindu lens... no one care
    Parashara Smriti 3.28-29 Celestial damsels seize for themselves, and take delight with the hero, whose body is wounded or cut by arrows, clubs, or maces. Thousands of celestial damsels, rush forward in a hurry towards a hero killed in battle, each proclaiming, ‘He is my lord, he is mine’.
    Parashara Smriti 3.31 If victorious, wealth is won; if death results, beautiful women fall to his share; since this corporeal frame is liable to perish in an instant’s time, why should we be shy of meeting death on a field of battle?
    Mahabharata 12.98.46-51 ”Foremost of Apsaras, numbering by thousands, go out with great speed (for receiving the spirit of the slain hero) coveting him for their lord.” Tr. K.M. Ganguli
    Hindu fanatics should somehow make sure that their wives’ doesn’t immolate themselves in their funeral pyre. Because if the wife immolates with her husband then he can’t enjoy Virgins in heaven,
    Devi Bhagavatam 3.15.10-13 ”Some warriors on being slain in the battle instantly arose in a celestial car to the heavens and was seen addressing the celestial nymph, who came already within his embrace, thus “O one of beautiful thighs. Behold! how my beautiful body is lying on the earth below!” Another warrrior thus slain got up in the heavens on a celestial car, came in possession of a celestial nymph and when he was sitting with her in the car, his former wife in the earth made herself a sati and burnt herself up in the funeral pyre, thus got a celestial body, came up to the heavens; and that chaste virtuous woman drew away perforce her own husband away from that celestial nymph. Two warriors, went up, slew each other and lay down dead at the same time. They went up in the heavens at the same time and there began quarrel with each other and fight with their weapons for one and the same celestial nymph. Some hero got in the heavens a nymph more lovely and beautiful than himself and he thus became very much attached and devoted her. He began to describe his own heroic qualities and also to copy dotedly the qualities of his lover so that she might remain faithfully attached to him.” Tr. Swami Vijnananda

  • @kakabawani4212
    @kakabawani4212 2 роки тому +1

    Salam you brothers are The sword of Islam May ALLAH SWT Protect you from Satan and chi stain and bless you with
    His mercy and Help you fight Satan and wicked Insan .

  • @nabeels7325
    @nabeels7325 2 роки тому +1

    Truth Seeker would’ve been gone under 5 minutes, Hamza? Where are you?

  • @kennyanibaba3839
    @kennyanibaba3839 2 роки тому

    Hi... Was looking to reach out to the efdawah team... Seems the previous arena video has been taken down.. Was that intentional?

  • @alhassangangu4357
    @alhassangangu4357 2 роки тому

    Any time I hear about Trinity, canon 3 in 1 comes to my mind

  • @abulhassan02
    @abulhassan02 2 роки тому

    Thank you for brother Abbas for putting it plain and simple yet eloquently to reply young Welch with facts, without hesitation and with truth as your pillar/anchor🤩.
    I need to learn the way you deliver your message.
    I also like brother sadat for not only having the keen eye to catch that cunning behaviour/trick of Young Welch but also coming up with logical answer and counter argument that he cannot run away. You trapped him in his own trap.a job well done
    I wish I have that ability of yours👍
    Finally I love ❤️ how brother Imran ended the conversation by quoting the Quran verse for explanation and to answer young Welch. And SubhanAllah the verse of Allah itself is talking about those people who corrupted people and i personally feel like as if Allah made that verse purposefully to help us Muslims so that Muslims can use it to answer non-Muslim like young Welch.
    I wish I know Quran like you do.
    Also, It was soothing to be me when brother Imran uttered that verse. felt like, he was kicking and stomping the face of shaitan which is inside young Welch with metal sharp nails embedded boots 🤣
    Missed brother hamza,wish he was there when talking to young welch❤ we need hamza 🤣 for such trolls

  • @legaltranslatorsana
    @legaltranslatorsana 2 роки тому

    I keep praying for you since I can't donate

  • @Subxanallah1110
    @Subxanallah1110 2 роки тому +1

    Where's the Lion, Hamza?

  • @raheelaali9767
    @raheelaali9767 2 роки тому

    The hindu just baffled my brain . Alhamdulliah He made me Muslim and I pray my eman never leaves me Ameen Ya Rabbi
    Lol brother Imran, this guy jus created more confusion the more he spoke

  • @predatorL89
    @predatorL89 2 роки тому

    Seeker of truth says "Krishna is Vishnu but they have different quality". Seems like very similarity concept to the christian trinity. Wow another religion with alot of knots tied. Subhan-Allah for being a muslim☝🏼🤲🏻

  • @lily72ad
    @lily72ad 2 роки тому

    God is One, is a simple concept yet Allah swt repeats it again and again and again in the Qur’an. The Trinity is something even Christians grapple with, yet the Bible does not even contain a single clear statement alluding to this.
    Brilliant reflection from brother Sadat.

  • @Leopold284
    @Leopold284 2 роки тому

    Man successfully received pig heart transplant in the US.

  • @PlanetWar
    @PlanetWar Рік тому

    1:01:25 Hamza said what?...😅😂🤣

  • @whateverman6738
    @whateverman6738 2 роки тому

    what's the humming in the intro? can anyone help

  • @andrewcohen786
    @andrewcohen786 2 роки тому +1

    Sean mentioned Jesu was the lamb. Agains like sons how many lambs are they ? Jeremiah 11:19 points to another lamb.
    I had been like a gentle lamb led to the slaughter; I did not realize that they had plotted against me, saying, “Let us destroy the tree and its fruit; let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name be remembered no more.

  • @Islam-ci5np
    @Islam-ci5np 2 роки тому

    Next pls

  • @selfsculptingman8475
    @selfsculptingman8475 2 роки тому +1

    Seeker of Truth is Lucky this time Hamza is not there

  • @mrsjay8988
    @mrsjay8988 2 роки тому

    Any1 else type edf and get the energy company page instead of efd?

  • @facilitieskhalid5769
    @facilitieskhalid5769 2 роки тому

    Does brother sadat have UA-cam channel.....

  • @firozsanullah9571
    @firozsanullah9571 2 роки тому

    Guys you’re having a taste of Indian Hinduism MENTAL GYMNASTICS OF MULTIPLE GODS

  • @akkidyy
    @akkidyy 2 роки тому

    Christians be like "I don't know if that answers your question or not, but im gonna keep preaching"

  • @hemisphere903
    @hemisphere903 Рік тому

    Brother Abbas, that word you always use “epiphany”, the word you actually want is “epitome”, pronounced epitimi 😉