Dear brother I have watched a lot of your videos but this video is a gem ❤ I want to become like you insha'Allah may Allah make it easy for me this journey ❤️
thankyou for sharing to the channel. and give us light. alhamdulillah may Allah bless you, and give you strength to keep spreading the message of the one true religion, islam. amin
nothing logical about flyinghorse, or 309yrs cave sleeping, or 27m human, throwing big stone with small stone, throwing dvil with stars. skip reli gion go learn science, meditation, mindfulness and yoga.
@@richarddawkins4607Everything is logical and possible when there is a God. You believe in the biggest miracle of all: something coming out of nothing
@@richarddawkins4607 You miss the point. It's not the How the true reality, but the Why, destination. I see you as ignorant, but here you show also arrogance. Their is deep science in torah and quran words. But you need to study these language. Or keep beeing what you are.
Suboor Ahmed is my favorite mainstream debater hands down. i haven't seen anyone get to the nitty gritty of topics and actually explain them as clearly as this guy does.
@@richarddawkins4607 why do we exist? Is there afterlife? Why are we even here in the universe? Who created all the things? what is actually really good and bad for the human? There are way more things than that. You can search and look up for yourself. ;) good evening!
No, that should read: Islam makes up answers for questions that science cannot answer. Atheism has nothing to do with it as it is just a rejection of theism.
@@richarddawkins4607 What do you give as meaning for Virgin ? This is the mean purpose ; you'll reach what you are thinking the things are. So meditate in how strange are these objects, the Words. They lead you. somewhere.
Mashaallah, straight to my whatsapp status n shared every where. May Allah accept your hardwork and service to the ummah of Rasoolallah Sallallahu alaihi wasallam
Daaaaaaaaaaaang! This is the first time listening to Mr. Subboor Ahmad and man was that beautiful and intelligent the way he answered all those difficult questions -that are usually asked by atheists. Outstanding Job Towards Eternity!! Please have Imam Tom Fachinne on again and do more of these difficult question sessions. May Allah Reward You All!!
@@DividerLP so you are talking about academic atheisme, here it is clear these are atheism of common people questions. so no straw man, if you want arguments as why do evil exist then refer to mohammed hijab's video on it, or even beter the video of hamza tzortsis on it. anyways how can one stay an atheist after this video? I love the following quote of subboor ahmed: "The inconsistency is explained by the fact that people don't want to believe in God"
@@toshio-tamura oh not believing is simple. Can you prove it? No? Okay then it’s not important and an invalid argument. Science can tell me why evil people do what they do. That’s basic psychology and sociology. There’s quantifiable proof, studies, experiments, collective data. Unless you have that in your thesis, we have nothing more to discuss.
10:00 anything that needs an explanation is contingent. The multiverse needs even more explanations than a single universe. Why is the multiverse cyclical instead of linear? Why does one universe collapse and expands in this direction rather than that direction? Why is there X amount of parallel universes rather than K amount of universes? Multiverse is an even more complex architecture that necessitates a more sophisticated and efficient controller - it strengthens the argument for God
Multiverse is a misconception of what means Univers. Uni- means One. And verse means Side. There is so much misconception about the arabic words, corrupted by the translations. Al Alamin is not about univers, nor world, but what a mind can grap from the reality. The ghayb is not part of A'lamin. This kind of Da'wa in english in a street, it's bag of fishbones. Arabic describe with so much precision the ALamin. The study of Allah's name is a way to Heaven.
@@victoremman4639 mashallah - if only people, especially Muslims, can grasp the impossible beauty of Quranic Arabic - no one would blink an eye about it's linguistic miracle if they truly understood it
@@basedmuslimbooks Seems we have to make da'wa to the ones making da'wa. English is corrupting slowly but surely Allah's words. The rabbies and christians got this desease, corruptions. We need to explain what is أعجميّ and what means عربيّ opposed in meaning, toward the muslims, from mashreq to maghreb.
Probably just trying to appeal to a wider audience - to get more views. People probably aren’t talking about this because they’d rather discuss what was said than say he went overtime.
@@toshio-tamura That they establish a rule and break it for only one of the guest and that guest spews absolute bs? Yeah that’s about all there is to take.
Bhai that’s your ignorance..he has not been able to prove existence of any creator,nor does he know when was Adam created,where is jannat or jahanum located..how does a donkey fly in space,how is a moon split and how was the universe created in 6 days…haha…his answer would be by MAGIC…haha
I am amazed at how eloquently he speaks, I really do like these analogies and it makes it easy for the average person to understand and digest. Allahumma Barik 👌
It will be bettter to stop the 1minute thing, this questions can be answered within 1 min but will be limited, it gives the audiance the need to focus on the time, and forget about analysing and focusing on what the answers tell about the format is great and this interview was amazing, smart guy, a pleasure to watch this Al salam Alikoum
How many of those watching and commenting praising how amazing this video is, has actually had the intellectual honesty to check and see if any atheists have actually responded to the points in this video?
The very questions pressuposes something was created, instead of caused. "Created" pressuposes a creator, I would expect God to not ask a loaded questions that pressuposes the very thing he is trying to prove, which leads to a circular argument fallacy. I would also expect God to not pose false dichotomies.
@@marcosbittar initially humans did not exist, and then they exist. So by definition humans are "created" So your comment is quite worthless at the end
@@marcosbittar initially humans did not existed at all, then later humans were existing. So by definition humans are indeed "created" (by something which is either an Intelligent Creator, whether in a miraculous or natural way, either a purely non-intelligent natural process) So in reality there is no circular reasoning fallacy. And then the verse quoted is not necessarily meant to be a dichotomy; nowhere in the verse is it said or implied that the two possibilities mentionned are the only possible possibilities, and that this verse intends to be an exhaustive list. So at the end it looks like you try to misinterpret things in a bad way in order to see fallacies etc everywhere.. This doesn't sound entirely sincere and fully intellectually honest..
@@Adri-242 If something is caused by a natural process u can just use the word "caused". The word "created" does imply that it was caused by an inteligent being.
@Adri-242 when u say "Or A or B" that is literally one of the natural language form of an logical exclusive Or. What an exclusive or needs to be true, and the text is affirming it, hence, saying it is true, is that one side is necessarly true and the other necessarly false.
Listening to men endowed with knowledge is what I do for a Living 😊 a nourished soul is better than a full belly. May Allah exalt this channel more and more ❤️
Just because something makes more sense doesnt make it correct, I love how we humans give reasonings to things we do not know much of instead lf acknowledging the we are ignorant and there many things that we yet to have explanation for, instead we just default to some faeries in the skies
we believe the things are the way they seem to be in the absence of counter evidence. It is about falsifying, not resposing to tranquility in our own ignorance. The existential questions won't disappear just because you acknowledge your ignorance.
@@iznij3284 Yes but acknowledging your ignorance is humbling and will free you to finding out the actual answer to that question. There are plenty of answers out there, but because of people just believing these assumed answers on faith, they will never be open to hearing the actual answers. Rather than assuming the sun goes around the earth, if humans acknowledged their uncertainty on the question, then we may have discovered the truth earlier, rather than instilling a status quo backed up imagined authority from an all powerful being, and we wouldn't have been burning people at the stake for proposing a heliocentric model.
The questions they should've asked are: If God is self-sufficient & lacks nothing, why did he create man to worship him? If creation is for our benefit, then what is the benefit to those who will burn forever? Why does God test us for a finite period but punish infinitely? If it is because he knows disbelievers will disbelieve infinitely. Then what is the point of this test? If the justification for infinite punishment is God’s knowledge of what disbelievers will do rather than what they have actually done - then this test is meaningless. God might as well create humans and put them straight into eternal Paradise or Hell since it is his knowledge that is the justification for eternity. Not finite actions. Can a being who creates humans he knows will fail his test and be tortured without end, be called The Most Merciful of those who show Mercy? If God wanted us to freely choose to worship him - then why threaten us? Does someone with a gun to his head really have free choice? Why does God cause so much suffering to humans? Is it part of God's test to prompt them to turn to him in desperation? Isn't that like a con-man who causes a problem then offers to fix it for you? Why would God give humans the ability to reason - then punish them for rejecting beliefs reason cannot comprehend? Why does the human body look like it was the result of a long cumulative process of evolution resulting in imperfections and vestigial organs and genes - and not the result of the instant and perfectly planned creation of Adam and Eve? Who is worse? The imperfect creation who commits evil or the perfect entity who created evil? Is being good because you fear God, really being good? Why did God send all known prophets, miracles and books to one area of the world and at a time when people were superstitious and gullible? Why did God only protect the Qur'an from corruption? Couldn't he have protected the Bible and prevented billions claiming he has a son? What was so special about Jesus that God made him born to a virgin? Took him up to heaven before he was crucified? And will bring him back before judgment day? Do you believe it's acceptable for a husband to hit a rebellious wife? Why do so many characteristics of Allah like anger and vengefulness seem like human ones? Why does the Qur'an say don't ask questions about things when the answer would trouble you? Should followers of other religions also not ask questions about their religion when it might trouble them? Why will God never forgive Shirk? What are they really guilty of? Ignorance? Being born to the wrong family? The quran criticizes idolaters for following the religion of their parents. Are you any different? You believe other people are following false, corrupted or unfounded beliefs? Are you certain you're not also?
The questions that you have raised are really good. I had similar questions but these are already answered by many scholars. You can try finding their answers one by one and listen to the pov of different scholars. I hope you find the truth.
Just to answer one of the questions, Allah does not need our worship. Worship is for your own benefit, someone who truly believes, when they pray, it alleviates your depression, your fears, anxieties, etc etc. Its like a phone manufacturer in it's instructions, will tell you the phone can only be submerged 20m in clear water. You can choose to take it 30m deep in Sea Water, but the creator knows the limitation of it's design, and by you doing that you risk damaging your phone. Same with us as humans, we have consciousness, this is divine creation from our creator, and our creator knows, you'll never fully find true peace unless you maintain a connection with him. Why does God put on earth to test us, for a finite period. Because if he was to simply cast us to heaven or hell, we would scream it was unfair, we never got a chance. Your life on this earth is your chance to demonstrate you deserve to be among those closest to the creator in the hereafter, Allah is the all knowing, the all wise. It may not make sense to us now as humans, but in the next life it will make sense, and I'm sure Allah will reveal to us other things that we cannot simply comprehend as humans on earth. You say Allah shows characters of vengeance and anger, that is far from true. As humans we are very simple, we have two motivators, that being pleasure or pain. That's why there's a heaven and hell, you cannot understand heaven without hell, or vice versa. We learn what things are by their polar opposites, you cannot know happiness without sadness, you cannot know life, without death, you cannot know peace, without war. That's simply how we are, so going back to why God threatens his wrath to the wrongdoers/disbelievers, it's the only way we as humans can learn. Like for example just look at parking, there's rules about parking, you can park here, there, but not there. If parking rules were not enforced, what do you think would happen, people would park anywhere, at any time. What's stopping people is the fear of consequences. If government announced that none of the rules of the land are going to be enforced, and society also agreed we would not judge, punish, cast out people who don't follow the rules, what do you think will happen ? Women would be getting raped, people getting killed, people stealing whatever they want, society would descend into anarchy, why ? Because people would know seeking out their pleasures, come with no consequences. I was once upon a time an atheist, I had all these questions too, but trust me if you are a sincere person who wants to know the truth, you will find it. Hamza's Den, Muhammad Hijab, Mufti Menk, Bilal Assad are all good places where you can start to explore finding the truth. But once again I'll tell you, you will only find the truth if your sincere, if you have that arrogance within you, whereby you believe you already know, or you don't want to believe in what you don't agree with, no amount of evidence will sway you. So drop all of that, have an open mind, read, listen, study, critically think, and you'll find the truth, and it will be soo clear and obvious you won't believe how you've missed it your whole life. May Allah guide you and help you open your heart to finding the truth. All the best
☝️☝️ Mashaallah. In this time of science and technology, we need muslims like Brother Suboor who have good knowledge of science and islam both. People, who are confused,will definitely be benefited by this video. Inshallah.
But he doesn’t. He uses a type of speaking called hypnotic pattern to seem confident and honest but anyone who knows about the basics of science he speaks on will confirm he is either misinformed on what he speaks of or being disingenuous. He is very wrong on a lot of these topics involving science.
I've read some atheist arguments and can defy this guys answers. It's just made for those who actively trying to reinforce their beliefs. An atheist wouldn't ask like that and wouldn't accept such answers.
That means you are not an atheist because you found sense in it, because if you at least thought seriously about it AT LEAST you'd think about those questions, and even much more. Of course, not everyone has the capabilities to come up with answers themselves, that's why such videos, arguments and books exist; for the sake of those who actually want the truth. You just are not willing to give up anything for it, you wanna live life. You wish for the creator to not exist so you could continue living your life your way. My dude, please dont take my comment in an attacking manner. You seriously need to stop lying to yourself and actually think, hear from all sides and be fair. Don't prioritize your desires or you will definitely regret it.
@spooonpro614 amazing the number of false conclusions u took from a simple frase. I would invite you to actually ask people what their position is instead of believing u know more about people then people. Practically every phrase u said about me is wrong.
@spooonpro614 BTW, what I actually meant by my comment was simply that those are very poor and Ill formulated questions, that seem prepared and pressuposed to pose atheism as something that it is not. Those questions are not related to atheism, their are prepared so he can make an theistic argument each time.
@@spooonpro614You know this person? Because you seem to talk like you know them personally and know exactly how they feel. You don’t. They said a single sentence.
I have a question: If you think that something as complex as a God exists without a creator, then why not assume that the universe can exist without a creator, if God is even portrayed as way above the complexity of the universe?
the universe is still bound by clear laws even if they're complex. God isn't, He is the creator, not the universe. the universe has a beginning, God doesn't. also watch what he says about everything being left to chance. the universe itself doesn't have "intelligence" or "wisdom" to be the designer, sustainer, creator, n doesn't have any of God's attributes that He describes Himself as in the Quran. we don't describe God as anything worldly, so no idolatry, God describes Himself by His attributes, and doing everything/anything the Quran tells us is the same as worshipping Him, with one requirement, believing in Him, aka submitting your will to your Creator, being a Muslim (one who submits).. because if u dont even believe in Him / reject His existence, reject that there's Heaven /Hell, whats the point of following, if u r not doing it for God, for ur afterlife? anyway, I'd recommend u looking up linguistic and mathematical miracles of the Quran here. there r scholars who dedicated their lives in researching them n there are books about them too. u can look them up, fascinating stuff even for Muslims. start off by reading the Quran first, with explanations, if u actually are kind of philosophical and want your questions answered. whether u want to believe comes later. also dont be misguided by the western media's perspective about Islam, all stems from their own agendas n propaganda as Islam rejects many things that are rooted in their economy. atheists don't have a say in moralities as it's all subjective from their perspective. watch Muslim lantern's channel for simple logical explanations to questions u might have about Islam. also look up Nouman Ali Khan if u want extensive explanations/ understanding of different topics, all from the Quran and Hadith. our lives in this world are very short. this world is just a test from God, if we can follow the clear signs and guidances He gave us, believe in Him, repent for our sins, we will be granted Heaven, and if we reject God and only follow our worldly desires fanned by satan, well u know.. ig thats all im gonna say. May Allah guide us all.
Guys you won’t believe it - I just found this phone on the ground that I’m using to type, and I can’t believe nature made it by itself! It had no designer - a tornado probably just tore through some wood and metal, and made it by accident. Isn’t that amazing? 🤡
@@celestialknight2339 No. It's not amazing and no, I don't believe it. But I do believe that the picture of yourself you so kindly included at the end of your comment is very apt.
@@celestialknight2339 Bruh, this is so lame. Just keep your head down and study the natural world. There is something called "Evolution by natural selection", something you guys will always ignore but can't refute because practically it is more sound than your Imaginary friend in the heavens!!!
@@Siegfried527 Evolution doesn’t disprove God - it’s just a mechanism, which itself still needs explaining. Also, where did the first life-form come from? Abiogenesis is still a mystery. How did DNA form by chance? Remember that you need DNA for replication & evolution to even occur. How did Evolution form symmetry? (We have two eyes, two hands, two feet - all split down the middle in beautiful symmetry) And how is it that our universe has been discovered to have just the perfect starting conditions to even allow evolution & life to exist in the first place? The ~26 constants of the universe are so precise down to even the 11th decimal place (e.g. the force of gravity, the speed of light, etc.), that any slightest shift in their values would prevent the delicate stability of our cosmos that allows life to be sustained. So evolution itself doesn’t answer the whole question - it actually adds more questions, and points to an Intelligent Designer even more. No matter how you try to square it - we are here. And there is no reason for us three-dimensional, living, conscious, self-aware, morally-tuned beings with the sense of free will placed on earth, to have been the way we are. It all points to a Creator and a purpose in life. The signs are everywhere, including in yourself. But as the Qur’an says: *_”The disbelievers remain in denial.”_* ~ _Qur’an 85:19_
@@_dybaIa I was talking about him to refute them, it’s quite literally against the laws of physics and science for something to come from nothing let alone from our own understanding that everything has to be designed
A perfect argument for the existance of a creator is the existance of the DNA and RNA this two basic instructions are what makes cells work it's the list of instructions telling what a cell needed to do.
That explanation of what DNA and RNA is the back of a cereal box explanation. But that is a terrible argument for the existence of a creator. (And then what about bacterias and single cell microorganisms that don't have DNA?) Look more into what DNA/RNA is. That "argument" just doesn't work.
You seem to think that biology as it exists is PERFECT. Hardly. There are many failures, things that don't work well, things for which we have evidence have failed and became extinct, things that even exist in our body which are useless today but point to some kind of prior usage. All these would be completely redundant if a creator designed living things. There would be no evidence of bad/failed/flawed designs when the being is omnipotent.
@@ponderwherearewegoing In my point of view there is only ONE atheistic question: Can you demonstrate that your god is more real than all the countless other gods? No? Ok, bye!
hardest part of debating atheist is that, they are act like flat earther. they will just use word "science" to proof that God doesnt exist. while science itself explicitly shows higherpower/god existence. they also like to use ad hominem and cherrypicking aswell, rather than attacking our arguments and logic.
I am afraid that is more your misunderstanding than them being unfair. As an atheist let me try and explain what is going wrong here. Science cannot say anything about the supernatural. It is a tool we use to learn about our reality (aka the truth). Other tools exist, praying, a coinflip, a magic-8ball and intuition are examples. But none of them have shown themselves as reliable as science (which also isn't perfect). So science cannot prove or disprove god. The thing is that no such tool like science exists for the supernatural. So we have no way of knowing if any supernatural claim (like that a god exists) is actually true. Since we can't, they are not part of the decision making process. Some god claims include that god acts in the physical world (christian flood for example). These we can disprove using science. But that just disproves the flood not the god. So when you say that science explicitly shows gods existence i highly doubt it. You are welcome to back up that claim with scientific evidence, but no1 ever has. But who knows, maybe you will be the first.
when atheists say "Maybe everything came by chance " this statement is irrational and missing sth It's either they are saying the universe came from nothing ( sth came from nothing ) which doesn't make any sense or they need to still explain who caused this "chance" to happen because chance is just a concept, not an entity that has the power and knowledge to create complex things such as the universe.
Scientists (both theistic and atheistic) who actually study cosmology and the early universe conditions do not think that there was "nothing" at the start of our current presentation of the Universe. The "something from nothing" is just a strawman argument. What we have is evidence that, for our presentation of the universe, in as close as we can get to a true nothing there are still virtual particles popping in and out of existence. Randomness and chance is a part of the universe. The classic example of the lottery. The chances of a specific person winning the lottery is rather high, yet at some point in time, someone wins. When a piece of radioactive material decays we have a pretty good idea the rate of that decay. What we do not yet understand is when a specific atom of that material triggers to decay.
@@AnotherViewer It's either you didn't get what I said or you don't know what a strawman argument is. saying that the universe came by chance as if you are saying the universe came from nothing because chance is a concept it is not an entity and the question remains, what is your explanation for the existence of the universe? I didn't say that scientists said there was nothing at the start of the universe, in fact science cannot tell you how the universe started or what was there before the point where the universe started. science is just a tool humans use to study the physical world around us and it has a limitation as well as humans. The virtual particles popping in and out I didn't get what you were trying to say. Again how did the universe come to exist? If you know that sth can't come from nothing, then you are by necessity saying that the universe requires sth external to it, to bring it into existence.
As an atheist i agree that come thing came "by chance" is ridiculous. Chance is the probability of a certain outcome in a random event. It doesn't do anything. nothing can happen "by chance". I have also only ever heard apologists say this, not atheists. The same goes for "from nothing" btw.
@@aidanya1336 thats the problem when atheists are asked how do you think the universe came to exist they either reply with "I don't know" or "by chance". These are the most common answers that people mostly gives. And that why we ask them can sth come from nothing which is surely no, then sth out of this universe brought it to exist, and that thing has to have attributes to bring this complex universe like power, knowledge and it has to be independent of anything in this universe which the basic definition of god.
Quran hadith the complete proof for those who are awake, humble, intelligent, and have god consciousness. Those who do not accept or wanna accept, it clearly says they chose their impatience, stubbornness, misguidance, ignorance, and desire over hereafter, that's why they debate debunk to avoid anything suppressing their worldly desire
God doesn't need you to believe! It's you, who needs to believe for your own benefit. It's even mentioned in Quran that Allah doesn't need your prayers or worships but it's for the humans to pray and worship Allah so that they may succeed!
Because whenever a human disobeys Allah, that person does something which goes against an ideal action and it causes problems in the fabric and functioning of society. Whatever is sin in Islam harms human itself. That's why if we don't believe and don't do the required things, we would be the chaos creators and this warrants punishment in the afterlife!
@@M.Aamir.If God is self-sufficient & lacks nothing, why did he create man to worship him? If creation is for our benefit, then what is the benefit to those who will burn forever? Why does God test us for a finite period but punish infinitely? If it is because he knows disbelievers will disbelieve infinitely. Then what is the point of this test? If the justification for infinite punishment is God’s knowledge of what disbelievers will do rather than what they have actually done - then this test is meaningless. God might as well create humans and put them straight into eternal Paradise or Hell since it is his knowledge that is the justification for eternity. Not finite actions. Can a being who creates humans he knows will fail his test and be tortured without end, be called The Most Merciful of those who show Mercy? If God wanted us to freely choose to worship him - then why threaten us? Does someone with a gun to his head really have free choice? Why does God cause so much suffering to humans? Is it part of God's test to prompt them to turn to him in desperation? Isn't that like a con-man who causes a problem then offers to fix it for you? Why would God give humans the ability to reason - then punish them for rejecting beliefs reason cannot comprehend? Why does the human body look like it was the result of a long cumulative process of evolution resulting in imperfections and vestigial organs and genes - and not the result of the instant and perfectly planned creation of Adam and Eve? Who is worse? The imperfect creation who commits evil or the perfect entity who created evil? Is being good because you fear God, really being good? Why did God send all known prophets, miracles and books to one area of the world and at a time when people were superstitious and gullible? Why did God only protect the Qur'an from corruption? Couldn't he have protected the Bible and prevented billions claiming he has a son? What was so special about Jesus that God made him born to a virgin? Took him up to heaven before he was crucified? And will bring him back before judgment day? Do you believe it's acceptable for a husband to hit a rebellious wife? Why do so many characteristics of Allah like anger and vengefulness seem like human ones? Why does the Qur'an say don't ask questions about things when the answer would trouble you? Should followers of other religions also not ask questions about their religion when it might trouble them? Why will God never forgive Shirk? What are they really guilty of? Ignorance? Being born to the wrong family? The quran criticizes idolaters for following the religion of their parents. Are you any different? You believe other people are following false, corrupted or unfounded beliefs? Are you certain you're not also?
Thanks for inviting me, mashallah you guys have an amazing hospitality and a fantastic visionary team!
Dear brother I have watched a lot of your videos but this video is a gem ❤
I want to become like you insha'Allah may Allah make it easy for me this journey ❤️
thankyou for sharing to the channel. and give us light.
alhamdulillah
may Allah bless you, and give you strength to keep spreading the message of the one true religion, islam.
amin
nothing logical about flyinghorse, or 309yrs cave sleeping, or 27m human, throwing big stone with small stone, throwing dvil with stars.
skip reli gion go learn science, meditation, mindfulness and yoga.
@@richarddawkins4607 May ALLAH SWT guide you in the right path
@@richarddawkins4607Everything is logical and possible when there is a God. You believe in the biggest miracle of all: something coming out of nothing
Suboor Ahmed is a gem for the ummah. we should promote our intelectuals. ❤
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nothing logical about flyinghorse, or 309yrs cave sleeping, or 27m human,
skip reli gion go learn science, meditation, mindfulness and yoga.
@@richarddawkins4607 You miss the point. It's not the How the true reality, but the Why, destination. I see you as ignorant, but here you show also arrogance. Their is deep science in torah and quran words. But you need to study these language. Or keep beeing what you are.
@@victoremman4639Don't waste your time with him, he's just trolling
@@richarddawkins4607 Palestine or Israel ?
I am watching him for the first time. Such a well spoken man, so clear in his thoughts and explanations. اَلْحَمْدُ لِلّٰهِ
He has his own channel
Mee too
Mashaa Allah
Allah has given wisdom to his chosen ones for counter arguing/stating facts for the Kuffar
Al hamdullilah 🤲🏻
@@rakhee_aishabhai he uses his wisdom to create a god ,give this god magical powers and in return this god creates the universe and Adam…by magic…haha
@@Hitchens-k9syou missed the first question. The existence of God is not optional. It's essential for the existence of the universe.
@@Hitchens-k9sSaying that everything came from chance or nothing, sounds more like magic to me.
Mash'Allah, love for Suboor increases day by day and his service to Ummah is appreciable, mash'Allah!!!
Finally brother suboor ahmed is here .
Suboor Ahmed is my favorite mainstream debater hands down. i haven't seen anyone get to the nitty gritty of topics and actually explain them as clearly as this guy does.
Alhamdulillah for Islam. Islam answers all the questions that atheism cannot.
like what, vrgns mrket? wine river? white palace?
@@richarddawkins4607 why do we exist? Is there afterlife? Why are we even here in the universe? Who created all the things? what is actually really good and bad for the human? There are way more things than that. You can search and look up for yourself. ;) good evening!
No, that should read: Islam makes up answers for questions that science cannot answer. Atheism has nothing to do with it as it is just a rejection of theism.
@@richarddawkins4607 What do you give as meaning for Virgin ? This is the mean purpose ; you'll reach what you are thinking the things are. So meditate in how strange are these objects, the Words. They lead you. somewhere.
The problem of atheists is not these questions or answers
This video is a gem. The brother is bestowed with wisedom Masha Allah.
Mashaallah, straight to my whatsapp status n shared every where. May Allah accept your hardwork and service to the ummah of Rasoolallah Sallallahu alaihi wasallam
Daaaaaaaaaaaang! This is the first time listening to Mr. Subboor Ahmad and man was that beautiful and intelligent the way he answered all those difficult questions -that are usually asked by atheists. Outstanding Job Towards Eternity!! Please have Imam Tom Fachinne on again and do more of these difficult question sessions. May Allah Reward You All!!
Al humduliallah majority of my doubts literally got answered!!!
In your doubts you asked the wrong questions then. Because an atheist would not ask these questions. Or at least not in the way they were asked.
@@DividerLPwaw i found the representant of atheism right here lol. speak for yourself
@@toshio-tamura I’m only saying that the questions are flawed and won’t turn any religious person into an atheist. They are straw man arguments.
@@DividerLP so you are talking about academic atheisme, here it is clear these are atheism of common people questions.
so no straw man, if you want arguments as why do evil exist then refer to mohammed hijab's video on it, or even beter the video of hamza tzortsis on it. anyways how can one stay an atheist after this video? I love the following quote of subboor ahmed: "The inconsistency is explained by the fact that people don't want to believe in God"
@@toshio-tamura oh not believing is simple.
Can you prove it? No? Okay then it’s not important and an invalid argument. Science can tell me why evil people do what they do. That’s basic psychology and sociology. There’s quantifiable proof, studies, experiments, collective data. Unless you have that in your thesis, we have nothing more to discuss.
Brother Suboor always speaks in lovely gentle manner and with great level of intelligence Alhamdulillah
We appreciate your insights. You'll always have our support.
10:00 anything that needs an explanation is contingent. The multiverse needs even more explanations than a single universe. Why is the multiverse cyclical instead of linear? Why does one universe collapse and expands in this direction rather than that direction? Why is there X amount of parallel universes rather than K amount of universes? Multiverse is an even more complex architecture that necessitates a more sophisticated and efficient controller - it strengthens the argument for God
Multiverse is a misconception of what means Univers. Uni- means One. And verse means Side. There is so much misconception about the arabic words, corrupted by the translations. Al Alamin is not about univers, nor world, but what a mind can grap from the reality. The ghayb is not part of A'lamin. This kind of Da'wa in english in a street, it's bag of fishbones. Arabic describe with so much precision the ALamin. The study of Allah's name is a way to Heaven.
@@victoremman4639 mashallah - if only people, especially Muslims, can grasp the impossible beauty of Quranic Arabic - no one would blink an eye about it's linguistic miracle if they truly understood it
@@basedmuslimbooks Seems we have to make da'wa to the ones making da'wa. English is corrupting slowly but surely Allah's words. The rabbies and christians got this desease, corruptions. We need to explain what is أعجميّ and what means عربيّ opposed in meaning, toward the muslims, from mashreq to maghreb.
The fact that no one is talking about him going over time is insane. Like what is the point of the timer?
Probably just trying to appeal to a wider audience - to get more views. People probably aren’t talking about this because they’d rather discuss what was said than say he went overtime.
bruh this is what you take out of this video?
@@toshio-tamura That they establish a rule and break it for only one of the guest and that guest spews absolute bs? Yeah that’s about all there is to take.
@@DividerLPI think it would be more beneficial if we heaed the full argument.
I love how he answered questions under 60 seconds in just under 120 seconds !
these type of videos are what we want! mashallah
Amazing share this guys!!
Suboor is a giant of an intellect, Darwinists biggest nightmare!!!
Bhai that’s your ignorance..he has not been able to prove existence of any creator,nor does he know when was Adam created,where is jannat or jahanum located..how does a donkey fly in space,how is a moon split and how was the universe created in 6 days…haha…his answer would be by MAGIC…haha
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@faysal18597 I hope you wake up one day 😢
@L-Lawliet14 go ahead..you will win a Noble prize
@L-Lawliet14 and you have won the Noble prize 😝😝😝
Nice to see you brother Suboor Ahmed ❤❤❤
I am amazed at how eloquently he speaks, I really do like these analogies and it makes it easy for the average person to understand and digest. Allahumma Barik 👌
These type of videos are the reason i became a practicing muslim. May Allah reward you
I first watched Suboor (plus other Speaker's Corner da'es) debating atheists on YT in 2020. I subbed to their channels.
What a wise and knowledgeable man, may Allah reward him infinitely ameen. I aspire to become like him inshAllah ❤
Alhamdulillah 🎉 I am Muslim
HasbunALLOHI ne'mal vakiil
ALLOHU AKBAR
It will be bettter to stop the 1minute thing, this questions can be answered within 1 min but will be limited, it gives the audiance the need to focus on the time, and forget about analysing and focusing on what the answers tell about
the format is great and this interview was amazing, smart guy, a pleasure to watch this
Al salam Alikoum
How many of those watching and commenting praising how amazing this video is, has actually had the intellectual honesty to check and see if any atheists have actually responded to the points in this video?
Surah 52 verse 35
Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?
The very questions pressuposes something was created, instead of caused. "Created" pressuposes a creator, I would expect God to not ask a loaded questions that pressuposes the very thing he is trying to prove, which leads to a circular argument fallacy. I would also expect God to not pose false dichotomies.
@@marcosbittar initially humans did not exist, and then they exist. So by definition humans are "created"
So your comment is quite worthless at the end
@@marcosbittar initially humans did not existed at all, then later humans were existing.
So by definition humans are indeed "created" (by something which is either an Intelligent Creator, whether in a miraculous or natural way, either a purely non-intelligent natural process)
So in reality there is no circular reasoning fallacy.
And then the verse quoted is not necessarily meant to be a dichotomy; nowhere in the verse is it said or implied that the two possibilities mentionned are the only possible possibilities, and that this verse intends to be an exhaustive list.
So at the end it looks like you try to misinterpret things in a bad way in order to see fallacies etc everywhere..
This doesn't sound entirely sincere and fully intellectually honest..
@@Adri-242 If something is caused by a natural process u can just use the word "caused". The word "created" does imply that it was caused by an inteligent being.
@Adri-242 when u say "Or A or B" that is literally one of the natural language form of an logical exclusive Or.
What an exclusive or needs to be true, and the text is affirming it, hence, saying it is true, is that one side is necessarly true and the other necessarly false.
MashaAllah .....what a clear explanation from Subboor Ahmed, Alhamdulillah
We must protect Br. Subboor at all costs and continue to make d’ua for his protection. He’s an asset to the Ummah.
may Allah bless our brother Suboor Ahmad
Allahu Akbar, May Allah bless the brother in his future endeavors
Matchless conversation I ever heard. SubhanAllah
Listening to men endowed with knowledge is what I do for a Living 😊 a nourished soul is better than a full belly. May Allah exalt this channel more and more ❤️
This interview should be hours looking forward for another one
Just because something makes more sense doesnt make it correct, I love how we humans give reasonings to things we do not know much of instead lf acknowledging the we are ignorant and there many things that we yet to have explanation for, instead we just default to some faeries in the skies
we believe the things are the way they seem to be in the absence of counter evidence. It is about falsifying, not resposing to tranquility in our own ignorance. The existential questions won't disappear just because you acknowledge your ignorance.
@@iznij3284 Yes but acknowledging your ignorance is humbling and will free you to finding out the actual answer to that question. There are plenty of answers out there, but because of people just believing these assumed answers on faith, they will never be open to hearing the actual answers.
Rather than assuming the sun goes around the earth, if humans acknowledged their uncertainty on the question, then we may have discovered the truth earlier, rather than instilling a status quo backed up imagined authority from an all powerful being, and we wouldn't have been burning people at the stake for proposing a heliocentric model.
Thanks for you "Towards eternity" teams 😊
The questions they should've asked are:
If God is self-sufficient & lacks nothing, why did he create man to worship him?
If creation is for our benefit, then what is the benefit to those who will burn forever?
Why does God test us for a finite period but punish infinitely?
If it is because he knows disbelievers will disbelieve infinitely. Then what is the point of this test? If the justification for infinite punishment is God’s knowledge of what disbelievers will do rather than what they have actually done - then this test is meaningless. God might as well create humans and put them straight into eternal Paradise or Hell since it is his knowledge that is the justification for eternity. Not finite actions.
Can a being who creates humans he knows will fail his test and be tortured without end, be called The Most Merciful of those who show Mercy?
If God wanted us to freely choose to worship him - then why threaten us? Does someone with a gun to his head really have free choice?
Why does God cause so much suffering to humans? Is it part of God's test to prompt them to turn to him in desperation? Isn't that like a con-man who causes a problem then offers to fix it for you?
Why would God give humans the ability to reason - then punish them for rejecting beliefs reason cannot comprehend?
Why does the human body look like it was the result of a long cumulative process of evolution resulting in imperfections and vestigial organs and genes - and not the result of the instant and perfectly planned creation of Adam and Eve?
Who is worse? The imperfect creation who commits evil or the perfect entity who created evil?
Is being good because you fear God, really being good?
Why did God send all known prophets, miracles and books to one area of the world and at a time when people were superstitious and gullible?
Why did God only protect the Qur'an from corruption? Couldn't he have protected the Bible and prevented billions claiming he has a son?
What was so special about Jesus that God made him born to a virgin? Took him up to heaven before he was crucified? And will bring him back before judgment day?
Do you believe it's acceptable for a husband to hit a rebellious wife?
Why do so many characteristics of Allah like anger and vengefulness seem like human ones?
Why does the Qur'an say don't ask questions about things when the answer would trouble you? Should followers of other religions also not ask questions about their religion when it might trouble them?
Why will God never forgive Shirk? What are they really guilty of? Ignorance? Being born to the wrong family?
The quran criticizes idolaters for following the religion of their parents. Are you any different?
You believe other people are following false, corrupted or unfounded beliefs? Are you certain you're not also?
Why dont you read the Quran and its meaning, its there if you reasoned and use a little logic
This is a truly underrated comment, how does this have only 8 likes?
The questions that you have raised are really good. I had similar questions but these are already answered by many scholars. You can try finding their answers one by one and listen to the pov of different scholars. I hope you find the truth.
Just to answer one of the questions, Allah does not need our worship. Worship is for your own benefit, someone who truly believes, when they pray, it alleviates your depression, your fears, anxieties, etc etc. Its like a phone manufacturer in it's instructions, will tell you the phone can only be submerged 20m in clear water. You can choose to take it 30m deep in Sea Water, but the creator knows the limitation of it's design, and by you doing that you risk damaging your phone. Same with us as humans, we have consciousness, this is divine creation from our creator, and our creator knows, you'll never fully find true peace unless you maintain a connection with him.
Why does God put on earth to test us, for a finite period. Because if he was to simply cast us to heaven or hell, we would scream it was unfair, we never got a chance. Your life on this earth is your chance to demonstrate you deserve to be among those closest to the creator in the hereafter, Allah is the all knowing, the all wise. It may not make sense to us now as humans, but in the next life it will make sense, and I'm sure Allah will reveal to us other things that we cannot simply comprehend as humans on earth.
You say Allah shows characters of vengeance and anger, that is far from true. As humans we are very simple, we have two motivators, that being pleasure or pain. That's why there's a heaven and hell, you cannot understand heaven without hell, or vice versa. We learn what things are by their polar opposites, you cannot know happiness without sadness, you cannot know life, without death, you cannot know peace, without war. That's simply how we are, so going back to why God threatens his wrath to the wrongdoers/disbelievers, it's the only way we as humans can learn. Like for example just look at parking, there's rules about parking, you can park here, there, but not there. If parking rules were not enforced, what do you think would happen, people would park anywhere, at any time. What's stopping people is the fear of consequences. If government announced that none of the rules of the land are going to be enforced, and society also agreed we would not judge, punish, cast out people who don't follow the rules, what do you think will happen ? Women would be getting raped, people getting killed, people stealing whatever they want, society would descend into anarchy, why ? Because people would know seeking out their pleasures, come with no consequences. I was once upon a time an atheist, I had all these questions too, but trust me if you are a sincere person who wants to know the truth, you will find it. Hamza's Den, Muhammad Hijab, Mufti Menk, Bilal Assad are all good places where you can start to explore finding the truth. But once again I'll tell you, you will only find the truth if your sincere, if you have that arrogance within you, whereby you believe you already know, or you don't want to believe in what you don't agree with, no amount of evidence will sway you. So drop all of that, have an open mind, read, listen, study, critically think, and you'll find the truth, and it will be soo clear and obvious you won't believe how you've missed it your whole life. May Allah guide you and help you open your heart to finding the truth. All the best
@@abdulqadirali7240 I have read the Quran, hasn´t helped to answer any of these fair questions. can you answer them?
good job brother thank you ❤
As insightful as always! JazakAllah khair ❤
very useful and to the point
You brought the right man at the right time, Masha'ALLAH
Very good explanation mashallah subhanallah allahoakber.
Love this conversation ❤
So funny how he masquerade every question and ended answering nothing, the first one was a huge example of it. 😂😂😂😂
Mashallah smart answers from a logical and smart person ❤
"The universe is highly improbable, but there is a chance!" Absolute GOLD!
Lets GOOO, ما شاء الله تبارك الله ❤
Amazing 😊speaker love it
Bro's winning his shower arguments
mashaallah beautiful video❤
May Allah bless our brothers and sisters of ummah with Jannah ❤
Aameen summa Aameen
☝️☝️ Mashaallah. In this time of science and technology, we need muslims like Brother Suboor who have good knowledge of science and islam both. People, who are confused,will definitely be benefited by this video. Inshallah.
good knowledge of science ???????
But he doesn’t. He uses a type of speaking called hypnotic pattern to seem confident and honest but anyone who knows about the basics of science he speaks on will confirm he is either misinformed on what he speaks of or being disingenuous. He is very wrong on a lot of these topics involving science.
I've read some atheist arguments and can defy this guys answers. It's just made for those who actively trying to reinforce their beliefs. An atheist wouldn't ask like that and wouldn't accept such answers.
@@HEbr-rg2jz As an atheist I can confirm this.
@@HEbr-rg2jz How can any Athiest defy the logical fallacies of an infinite regress? Good luck with that.
Allahuma Barik
Please bring him back, this was so insightful
This was so stupid
It was anything but insightful.
Masha Allah ❤
Watching from 🇺🇸
Watched it till the end. Full of wisdom!
As a DnD nerd
16 Wisdom
3 Intelligence
Definitely dump stated intelligence. He speaks confidently and in a wise way, but says nothing intelligent.
Alhamdulillah this was extremely helpful ❤
You should have called this answering questions because 80% of the time he takes longer than a minute.
KEEP GOING! SEEK THE TRUTH ❤️🙏🏼
Brother Subboor Ahmad one of the best👌🏻
Just because you can answer, doesn't mean you are right.
Just because you commenting here doesn't mean you are right.
@@noormuzamil9850 what makes you think I could be wrong?
so prove him wrong!
@@thebeetle1656 since when I said he is wrong?
@@riksuntop3535 bro you really implied it in your comment 😅
what DO you mean by your comment? I'm curious
Mash'Allah ❤
Great work guys, keep it up😇
As an atheist I simply don't ask most of those questions.
That means you are not an atheist because you found sense in it, because if you at least thought seriously about it AT LEAST you'd think about those questions, and even much more.
Of course, not everyone has the capabilities to come up with answers themselves, that's why such videos, arguments and books exist; for the sake of those who actually want the truth.
You just are not willing to give up anything for it, you wanna live life.
You wish for the creator to not exist so you could continue living your life your way.
My dude, please dont take my comment in an attacking manner.
You seriously need to stop lying to yourself and actually think, hear from all sides and be fair.
Don't prioritize your desires or you will definitely regret it.
@spooonpro614 amazing the number of false conclusions u took from a simple frase. I would invite you to actually ask people what their position is instead of believing u know more about people then people. Practically every phrase u said about me is wrong.
@spooonpro614 BTW, what I actually meant by my comment was simply that those are very poor and Ill formulated questions, that seem prepared and pressuposed to pose atheism as something that it is not. Those questions are not related to atheism, their are prepared so he can make an theistic argument each time.
@@spooonpro614
"My dude, please dont take my comment in an attacking manner."
Are you kidding me?!?!
@@spooonpro614You know this person? Because you seem to talk like you know them personally and know exactly how they feel. You don’t. They said a single sentence.
That's what we call an intelligent man!
Alhamdulillah
I have a question: If you think that something as complex as a God exists without a creator, then why not assume that the universe can exist without a creator, if God is even portrayed as way above the complexity of the universe?
the universe is still bound by clear laws even if they're complex. God isn't, He is the creator, not the universe. the universe has a beginning, God doesn't. also watch what he says about everything being left to chance. the universe itself doesn't have "intelligence" or "wisdom" to be the designer, sustainer, creator, n doesn't have any of God's attributes that He describes Himself as in the Quran. we don't describe God as anything worldly, so no idolatry, God describes Himself by His attributes, and doing everything/anything the Quran tells us is the same as worshipping Him, with one requirement, believing in Him, aka submitting your will to your Creator, being a Muslim (one who submits).. because if u dont even believe in Him / reject His existence, reject that there's Heaven /Hell, whats the point of following, if u r not doing it for God, for ur afterlife? anyway, I'd recommend u looking up linguistic and mathematical miracles of the Quran here. there r scholars who dedicated their lives in researching them n there are books about them too. u can look them up, fascinating stuff even for Muslims.
start off by reading the Quran first, with explanations, if u actually are kind of philosophical and want your questions answered. whether u want to believe comes later. also dont be misguided by the western media's perspective about Islam, all stems from their own agendas n propaganda as Islam rejects many things that are rooted in their economy. atheists don't have a say in moralities as it's all subjective from their perspective.
watch Muslim lantern's channel for simple logical explanations to questions u might have about Islam. also look up Nouman Ali Khan if u want extensive explanations/ understanding of different topics, all from the Quran and Hadith.
our lives in this world are very short. this world is just a test from God, if we can follow the clear signs and guidances He gave us, believe in Him, repent for our sins, we will be granted Heaven, and if we reject God and only follow our worldly desires fanned by satan, well u know..
ig thats all im gonna say. May Allah guide us all.
Where's the bit where biology debunks atheism? 🤔
Yeah, I'm still waiting to hear that part!!
Guys you won’t believe it - I just found this phone on the ground that I’m using to type, and I can’t believe nature made it by itself! It had no designer - a tornado probably just tore through some wood and metal, and made it by accident. Isn’t that amazing? 🤡
@@celestialknight2339 No. It's not amazing and no, I don't believe it. But I do believe that the picture of yourself you so kindly included at the end of your comment is very apt.
@@celestialknight2339 Bruh, this is so lame. Just keep your head down and study the natural world. There is something called "Evolution by natural selection", something you guys will always ignore but can't refute because practically it is more sound than your Imaginary friend in the heavens!!!
@@Siegfried527 Evolution doesn’t disprove God - it’s just a mechanism, which itself still needs explaining. Also, where did the first life-form come from? Abiogenesis is still a mystery. How did DNA form by chance? Remember that you need DNA for replication & evolution to even occur. How did Evolution form symmetry? (We have two eyes, two hands, two feet - all split down the middle in beautiful symmetry) And how is it that our universe has been discovered to have just the perfect starting conditions to even allow evolution & life to exist in the first place? The ~26 constants of the universe are so precise down to even the 11th decimal place (e.g. the force of gravity, the speed of light, etc.), that any slightest shift in their values would prevent the delicate stability of our cosmos that allows life to be sustained.
So evolution itself doesn’t answer the whole question - it actually adds more questions, and points to an Intelligent Designer even more. No matter how you try to square it - we are here. And there is no reason for us three-dimensional, living, conscious, self-aware, morally-tuned beings with the sense of free will placed on earth, to have been the way we are. It all points to a Creator and a purpose in life. The signs are everywhere, including in yourself.
But as the Qur’an says:
*_”The disbelievers remain in denial.”_* ~ _Qur’an 85:19_
Me sitting with a counter-argument to every answer in the video.
literallllllly every theory has a counterargumentttt
Go name them
@@baileylaurie6787 No, I said that as an general statement.
@@_dybaIa I was talking about him to refute them, it’s quite literally against the laws of physics and science for something to come from nothing let alone from our own understanding that everything has to be designed
@@baileylaurie6787 ok sorry for the misunderstanding
A perfect argument for the existance of a creator is the existance of the DNA and RNA this two basic instructions are what makes cells work it's the list of instructions telling what a cell needed to do.
That explanation of what DNA and RNA is the back of a cereal box explanation. But that is a terrible argument for the existence of a creator. (And then what about bacterias and single cell microorganisms that don't have DNA?) Look more into what DNA/RNA is. That "argument" just doesn't work.
And a lot of the times those instructions fail. Like. A lot more than you’d expect. It’s complex and flawed.
You seem to think that biology as it exists is PERFECT. Hardly. There are many failures, things that don't work well, things for which we have evidence have failed and became extinct, things that even exist in our body which are useless today but point to some kind of prior usage. All these would be completely redundant if a creator designed living things. There would be no evidence of bad/failed/flawed designs when the being is omnipotent.
@@9y2bgy bro, if the biology was perfect. There will be no disease and we will be eternal
@@Medecineourien Yikes, I hope we don't live eternally. That would absolutely destroy the quality of life.
Many of these questions are questions that no atheist would ask.
They actually hold interviews with atheist. So these questions are based on what’s mainly heard
Wow. What a lie.@@ponderwherearewegoing
@@ponderwherearewegoing In my point of view there is only ONE atheistic question: Can you demonstrate that your god is more real than all the countless other gods? No? Ok, bye!
@@darnmarrwhat are your questions?
@@hitman5782yes Allah is real And the evidence is quran
Everything needs a creator . Almighty need a creator . Almighty is a creation .
Needs? No.
@@DividerLPif everything has to be created by someone why can't god be created by something else
@@truthseeker02 nothing needs to be. You are asking the wrong person about this lol
@@DividerLP Allah was invented by seventh century savages in arabian peninsula . He was their best friend .
This respectful person looks like Abdul Rahman alp in diriliş Ertuğrul ❤
✨🙏✨🔑💡🌳🌳🌳❤️ Alhamdulilah Rabb Alameen ✨🙏✨
May Allah bless our brothers and sisters of ummah with Jannah ❤
Aameen summa Aameen ❤
Setting up timer wont give more information instead rhere should be no time limit. You can make as many parts but with detailed analyses
As Salaam Alaikum, you should invite Professor Ali Ataie, Ustadh Abdullah al andalusi, Paul William and sh hamza karamali
Thenk you great interview
amazing work
Türkçe altyazı ekleyebilir misiniz?
@Towards Eternity Video Publisher: Our brother is asking if we can possibly have sub titles of this video translated in Turkish language
May allah protect subboor ahmad sir for the ummah amin❤
Process that occur in our body are sufficient to prove God existence.subhanAllah
Me sitting on the toilett proves...which god again?
I'm not Muslim nor do I believe heliocentrism. The rest makes sense. Thank you.
hardest part of debating atheist is that, they are act like flat earther.
they will just use word "science" to proof that God doesnt exist. while science itself explicitly shows higherpower/god existence.
they also like to use ad hominem and cherrypicking aswell, rather than attacking our arguments and logic.
I am afraid that is more your misunderstanding than them being unfair.
As an atheist let me try and explain what is going wrong here.
Science cannot say anything about the supernatural. It is a tool we use to learn about our reality (aka the truth).
Other tools exist, praying, a coinflip, a magic-8ball and intuition are examples.
But none of them have shown themselves as reliable as science (which also isn't perfect).
So science cannot prove or disprove god.
The thing is that no such tool like science exists for the supernatural.
So we have no way of knowing if any supernatural claim (like that a god exists) is actually true.
Since we can't, they are not part of the decision making process.
Some god claims include that god acts in the physical world (christian flood for example).
These we can disprove using science. But that just disproves the flood not the god.
So when you say that science explicitly shows gods existence i highly doubt it.
You are welcome to back up that claim with scientific evidence, but no1 ever has.
But who knows, maybe you will be the first.
Allah Akbar 💝 the CHAMP Suboor the intellectual MONSTER ❤❤❤ JAZAKOM ALLAH KOL KHAIR ❤
when atheists say "Maybe everything came by chance " this statement is irrational and missing sth
It's either they are saying the universe came from nothing ( sth came from nothing ) which doesn't make any sense
or they need to still explain who caused this "chance" to happen because chance is just a concept, not an entity that has the power and knowledge to create complex things such as the universe.
Scientists (both theistic and atheistic) who actually study cosmology and the early universe conditions do not think that there was "nothing" at the start of our current presentation of the Universe. The "something from nothing" is just a strawman argument. What we have is evidence that, for our presentation of the universe, in as close as we can get to a true nothing there are still virtual particles popping in and out of existence.
Randomness and chance is a part of the universe. The classic example of the lottery. The chances of a specific person winning the lottery is rather high, yet at some point in time, someone wins. When a piece of radioactive material decays we have a pretty good idea the rate of that decay. What we do not yet understand is when a specific atom of that material triggers to decay.
@@AnotherViewer Brother stop butting around and just accept the fact that there is a designer behind all of this
@@AnotherViewer
It's either you didn't get what I said or you don't know what a strawman argument is.
saying that the universe came by chance as if you are saying the universe came from nothing because chance is a concept it is not an entity and the question remains, what is your explanation for the existence of the universe?
I didn't say that scientists said there was nothing at the start of the universe, in fact science cannot tell you how the universe started or what was there before the point where the universe started.
science is just a tool humans use to study the physical world around us and it has a limitation as well as humans.
The virtual particles popping in and out I didn't get what you were trying to say. Again how did the universe come to exist?
If you know that sth can't come from nothing, then you are by necessity saying that the universe requires sth external to it, to bring it into existence.
As an atheist i agree that come thing came "by chance" is ridiculous.
Chance is the probability of a certain outcome in a random event.
It doesn't do anything. nothing can happen "by chance".
I have also only ever heard apologists say this, not atheists.
The same goes for "from nothing" btw.
@@aidanya1336 thats the problem when atheists are asked how do you think the universe came to exist they either reply with "I don't know" or "by chance". These are the most common answers that people mostly gives.
And that why we ask them can sth come from nothing which is surely no, then sth out of this universe brought it to exist, and that thing has to have attributes to bring this complex universe like power, knowledge and it has to be independent of anything in this universe which the basic definition of god.
Finally, a decent video on this channel
Insightful and extremely helpful, Alhamdulilah. May Allah preserve and reward the brothers. Insha Allah, Ameen.
Quran hadith the complete proof for those who are awake, humble, intelligent, and have god consciousness. Those who do not accept or wanna accept, it clearly says they chose their impatience, stubbornness, misguidance, ignorance, and desire over hereafter, that's why they debate debunk to avoid anything suppressing their worldly desire
yoo Subboor in the house
Subhan Allah!
Ist comment🙂
ماشاء الله عليه ، الأخ صبور من الدعاة الذين أستمتع بمشاهدتهم ، أطال الله في عمره وبارك فيه
12:10 the chain is stopped by one creator, but how do we know that the chain has only two elements?
If there is a god why would he care if you believe?
God doesn't need you to believe! It's you, who needs to believe for your own benefit.
It's even mentioned in Quran that Allah doesn't need your prayers or worships but it's for the humans to pray and worship Allah so that they may succeed!
@@M.Aamir. then why send us to hell for not
Because whenever a human disobeys Allah, that person does something which goes against an ideal action and it causes problems in the fabric and functioning of society.
Whatever is sin in Islam harms human itself. That's why if we don't believe and don't do the required things, we would be the chaos creators and this warrants punishment in the afterlife!
@@M.Aamir. ok let’s give you that why eternal punishment?
@@M.Aamir.If God is self-sufficient & lacks nothing, why did he create man to worship him?
If creation is for our benefit, then what is the benefit to those who will burn forever?
Why does God test us for a finite period but punish infinitely?
If it is because he knows disbelievers will disbelieve infinitely. Then what is the point of this test? If the justification for infinite punishment is God’s knowledge of what disbelievers will do rather than what they have actually done - then this test is meaningless. God might as well create humans and put them straight into eternal Paradise or Hell since it is his knowledge that is the justification for eternity. Not finite actions.
Can a being who creates humans he knows will fail his test and be tortured without end, be called The Most Merciful of those who show Mercy?
If God wanted us to freely choose to worship him - then why threaten us? Does someone with a gun to his head really have free choice?
Why does God cause so much suffering to humans? Is it part of God's test to prompt them to turn to him in desperation? Isn't that like a con-man who causes a problem then offers to fix it for you?
Why would God give humans the ability to reason - then punish them for rejecting beliefs reason cannot comprehend?
Why does the human body look like it was the result of a long cumulative process of evolution resulting in imperfections and vestigial organs and genes - and not the result of the instant and perfectly planned creation of Adam and Eve?
Who is worse? The imperfect creation who commits evil or the perfect entity who created evil?
Is being good because you fear God, really being good?
Why did God send all known prophets, miracles and books to one area of the world and at a time when people were superstitious and gullible?
Why did God only protect the Qur'an from corruption? Couldn't he have protected the Bible and prevented billions claiming he has a son?
What was so special about Jesus that God made him born to a virgin? Took him up to heaven before he was crucified? And will bring him back before judgment day?
Do you believe it's acceptable for a husband to hit a rebellious wife?
Why do so many characteristics of Allah like anger and vengefulness seem like human ones?
Why does the Qur'an say don't ask questions about things when the answer would trouble you? Should followers of other religions also not ask questions about their religion when it might trouble them?
Why will God never forgive Shirk? What are they really guilty of? Ignorance? Being born to the wrong family?
The quran criticizes idolaters for following the religion of their parents. Are you any different?
You believe other people are following false, corrupted or unfounded beliefs? Are you certain you're not also?
Subboor Ahmad is my hero
without him after Allah i would have fallen for scientisim and its hidden assumptions
Amazing ❤
More this sorta videos please
Mashallah, beautiful!
Absolutely beautiful episode. May Allah accept it and bless you for it. Ameen