Onyx Equinox Season 1 Finale Breakdown & Season 2 Theory

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  • @briseidamunoz1676
    @briseidamunoz1676 3 роки тому +58

    I don't see many people talking about this awesome show, (although to be fair it's newish) thank you so much for making a video on it! As someone of Mexican decent, it's so cool to have a show with Mesoamerican deities; they are pretty overlooked compared to other ancient civilizations like the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians etc. but I'm glad more people are learning about them!!!😊👌

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +2

      I'm glad you liked the video! Season 1 has its flaws admittedly (probably mostly due to it being the first season with the uncertainty of not being renewed) but I'm 100% certain that if further seasons are greenlit, the show's whole potential can be used!! Looking forward to that
      And I totally agree, this is the first show I ever heard of that deals with mesoamerican culture, (there may be more, but nonetheless the fact that I don't know any of them speaks for itself). I don't even know why they are overlooked to this degree..Hopefully, in the future more and more cultures that are still rather unknown now can be included in modern media!!

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 3 роки тому +1

      I’ve noticed that people confuse this with legend of korra even though these two shows cover different cultures....maybe helping people understand that 1.different art styles and two there’s 0 connection between the two shows and this covers pretty cool Mexican mythology (helping me learn new things too) would maybe help more people know about this show

  • @elizabthharris6741
    @elizabthharris6741 3 роки тому +42

    Obsessed.
    You know, my mothers great grandmother remembers her mother telling the Aztec stories. Telling her we were direct descendants. And if you look at my mother, you can see it.
    The stories are beautiful but violent often.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      wow!! it's amazing that these stories were told inside of your own family! Your family seems to have a long deeply rooted history

    • @elizabthharris6741
      @elizabthharris6741 3 роки тому +1

      @@frogtoons yes it does. The spirits are pretty popular and so is Catholicism

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      @@elizabthharris6741 do you have anything specific in mind when you refer to Catholicism being popular?

  • @hilken
    @hilken 3 роки тому +16

    I think that Quetzalcoatl's plan is to free humans from the control of the gods, even if that means the end of all gods. After all, in the Myths he prohibited human sacrifices because he loved humans too much.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +7

      that's quite the beautiful idea! If that's true he seemingly accepts (or maybe even intended) that Izel and humanity despise him and the gods in order to make humans turn away from them

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 3 роки тому +3

      Ooo makes sense 🤔

  • @TheLordofAnime_
    @TheLordofAnime_ 3 роки тому +23

    Also in Aztec Mythology, Tezcatlipoca is the god of Kingship among other things so it makes sense that Tezcatlipoca would seek him out, as the ruler that Tezcatlipoca visited was Nezahualcoyotl, the king of Texcoco one of the cities in the Mexica's Triple Alliance in which Tezcatlipoca is the patron god

  • @TheLordofAnime_
    @TheLordofAnime_ 3 роки тому +22

    Tezcatlipoca in actual mythology, honestly didn't have a problem with humans he was more of a mischief maker than anything. So Im interested how they're gonna take this

    • @Xilotl
      @Xilotl 3 роки тому +6

      Honestly, it depends. Where my grandfather is from, Teskatlipoka (Tezcatlipoca) is Ajakatl-Ketsalkowatl's (Ehecatl-Quetzalcoatl) brother. They fought a bit and eventually settled their differences to create humans (again). They're not enemies, just brothers who have different views on how to do things. So, I assume you mean the Mexicah version then?

    • @TheLordofAnime_
      @TheLordofAnime_ 3 роки тому

      @@Xilotl Yes

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 3 роки тому

      Hmm 🤔 I see

    • @Awesome_Pichu
      @Awesome_Pichu Рік тому

      I mean he had no problem killing the humans of the old world

  • @RoseyRose20
    @RoseyRose20 3 роки тому +28

    God I want a season 2

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      same!!

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 3 роки тому

      I do hope we get more. Wait it’s on crunchy roll?😅

  • @TheMayanGuy
    @TheMayanGuy 3 роки тому +7

    Honestly that was a pretty good video, with interesting theories^^ (And you kind of nailed the prononciation of the gods names so good job on that x) )
    In the last episode when Tezcatlipoca is making havoc inside a city, this city is Tenochtitlan, the capital of the Aztec Empire (and thats also there that Izel and his group are meant to go) and the man in the end with a manuscript in his hands is an Aztec Emperor, which makes me even more curious about whats going to happened, clearly him and Tezcatlipoca seems to know each others, or was expecting each others
    Anyway can't wait for a potential second season^^

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      thanks dude!!
      yeah I'm also super curious what that is about! the emperor is down for some shady business... won't be easy for the heroes to hold their grounds against the gods and their own people commanded by the emperor

  • @oddeyes9413
    @oddeyes9413 3 роки тому +7

    I really do hope we get a second season. The story and world are so fascinating.

  • @audreywolfer9706
    @audreywolfer9706 3 роки тому +16

    Good breakdown! I agree with most of the points you made. The noble looking man in Tenochtitlan looks like Montezuma II, based on his headgear. If he is that probably means the story is based near the end of the Aztec empire?
    Also I want to hear your opinion whether you think Mictlantecuhtli is truly dead. He told his wife that he needed her for balance, do you think that balance will be lost if Mictecacihuatl is the sole ruler of the underworld? Zyanya also still has some of his power, so I wonder if he may be resurrected somehow involving her.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +3

      Admittedly, my knowledge of mesoamerican is not very profound, feel free to further explain the end of the aztec Empire and who exactly Montezuma II is!
      I've been wondering ever since episode 1 if the gods can die, since Mictlantecuhtli killed another... I feel like they do not really die, because they are seen switching bodies all the time so I guess the gods are rather intangible entities than physical personas. Still I can imagine that a god is effectively "dead" when he is not in possession of a long-term vessel anymore..these may be hard to find, at best they could take over the body of another god (or maybe Zyanya since she is already strengthened by the power she's got)
      At any rate I think there's a decisive detail regarding that topic! Mictecacihuatl consumed Mictlantecuhtli, in order to gain his power most likely. But maybe by doing so she can seal away his soul in her own body? if so would there be a risk of being taken over by him? I'm not sure about all of this but I feel an absolute death "just" by being killed in the traditional way is unlikely
      I do feel that the balance of the underworld is of importance! if it wasn't there would have been no point to getting installing Mictecacihuatl in her position. This could be connected to Nelli's revival what still is Izel's goal after all: If the underworld cannot be thoroughly governed, is there a guarantee that no souls and no bones can escape it to return to the mortal realm?

    • @audreywolfer9706
      @audreywolfer9706 3 роки тому +2

      @@frogtoons Montezuma II was one of the last Aztec rulers, he was held hostage and eventually killed by conquistadors. After looking into this more though I definitely think the man is actually Montezuma I, based off appearance alone. He reigned about 60 years prior to Montezuma II which would also make more sense, I don’t think we’ll be seeing Spaniards in Onyx Equinox ever. Physically they look almost identical.
      I thought Mictecacihuatl consumed Mictlantecuhtli as a final act of revenge against her husband, maybe she had other motives though. In that end credits scene he was still alive but only barely, so I wonder if she was unable to finish the job and kill him off thoroughly. Is she able to harm him now because she absorbed his power?
      He could just be holding on by a thread because some of his power is still in Zyanya.
      He may also be able to use her as a vessel now that she is vulnerable and stuck in her lizard form.
      I think you’re right about the bones... in Aztec mythology, the bones of previous mortals are recycled to create the next race of mortals. During the creation myth of the 5th sun, Quetz stole the bones from Mictlantecuhtli to create modern mortals. As of yet I have no idea why Mictlantecuhtli is so protective of them but I’m sure it has something to do with balance.
      I sure hope we see what “balance” actually means in this scenario, and how the immortal beings and their souls work in season 2!

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      @@audreywolfer9706 @Audrey Wolfer that's great to know! I looked him up just now and it is said he introduced many political, social and economic reforms to his people. On top of that he was constantly seeking to expand the empire and that could potentially be a part of the show's story. He might support Tezcatlipoca in exchange for help in his expansion plans.
      and I do agree that Zyanya will probably be of importance again, it's really not much power she's holding, but nevertheless she received a god's blood. Since blood is so very important in this culture's mythology it's only plausible there'd be more to it than being able turn into a lizard
      that's some vital piece of information!! the underworld is a mysterious place and I absolutely want to know more about how things work down there. and you're right Mictlantecuhtli was very adamant on having a guardian for the bones, possibly because of what you mentioned. Regarding the show that means there is actually a pretty good chance that someone uses the bones for their shenanigans

    • @audreywolfer9706
      @audreywolfer9706 3 роки тому +1

      @@frogtoons that’s a good theory! But also, if Tezcatlipoca plans to destroy all of humanity, that doesn’t exclude Montezuma (if that is actually him even). All his people and empire would die. Maybe in exchange for his support gets to survive through the equinox or some other benefit?
      That’s a great observation about the role of the bones, if Tez finds out Mictlantecuhtli is dead or the bones aren’t being watched, that could be a very bad thing. I can totally see him using them to his advantage and creating an army, or something like that. I’m sure Mictecacihuatl will learn the hard way and find out how to keep them protected.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      @@audreywolfer9706 yes that's what I thought, too! guaranteed survival and possibly something along the lines of Montezuma will became an emissary and the ruler of the new humans...(although their deal may very well just be a facade and Tezcatlipoca will kill him anyway)
      building an army would be huge!! If there is the possibility to do that it's more likely that Mictecacihuatl knows that possibility and will do it herself before allowing an enemy to.

  • @ryangunnison38
    @ryangunnison38 2 роки тому +4

    I think its important to note that the city they are going to, Tenochtitlan(Aztec capital), is the city that Izel fled from when he was young! Perhaps Izel is a child of Moctezuma or had to flee because of some important plan he had for Izel

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  2 роки тому

      nice observation! this tiny detail does open many opportunities to let the story become more complex..Who knows when Moctezuma and Tezcatlipoca first established contact?! They could indeed have planned something concerning Izel

  • @silverstream3531
    @silverstream3531 3 роки тому +11

    Honestly I was really upset, Izel was already there! I can't understand why he didn't pull the last lever 😆 poor Quetzalcoatl

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +10

      lmao, I guess he didn't want his friends to be killed by Mictecacihuatl😂 and also to mess with the gods😂 basically he kind of found himself in a lose-lose situation concerning his personal benefit.
      It's an unpleasant situation for Quetzalcoatl indeed but we'll see what he's got up his sleeve!

    • @emeros8631
      @emeros8631 3 роки тому +4

      I don't really remember the finale well but he was angry against the gods that kept manipulating, threatening and lying to him. His sister is, or at least he believes her to be, in the underworld so closing that door would mean giving up on saving her. And Mictlaccihualt was basically threatening to murder all of them if he closed the door. Plus Quetzalcoatl didn't really need him to close the last door hence the scene with the bird.

    • @zyyrtt951
      @zyyrtt951 3 роки тому +6

      Because Izel had to defy the Gods. Close the lever and Quetzalcoatl wins, but leave the Gate open and Tezcatlipoca wins and Mictecaxihuatl stays alive. So now, Izel’s plan is to find a way to fight back against the Gods and maybe even find a way to use the obsidian to defeat them.

  • @chedickenson3465
    @chedickenson3465 3 роки тому +7

    I commend you for pronouncing all the gods names Perfectly.🙏🏾👌🏽

  • @emeros8631
    @emeros8631 3 роки тому +2

    To add to what was said in the video, Quetz loves humanity and seems to want a certain equilibrium between the celestials and underworld gods and the humans. An equilibrium that is threatened by Mictlantecuhtli disregard of the concept of sacrifice (the dude is threatening cities like all you can eat buffet), the increasing conflicts between the different civilization that doesn't help with the blood drought and the way many gods perceive humans like cattle and play things to be discarde the second they become annoying. Might overthink this but usually in myths one of the major sources of conflicts between Quetz and Tez is humanity (at least the 5th batch that was directly made with Quetz blood) and their worth. I believe Quetz wants to establish a new order in opposition of the Tez's, not by getting rid of humanity v5.0 but by getting them to unite and rebel against the gods like Tez and Mictlantecuhtli. Izel is his chosen champion and even in his anger against the gods he is doing Quetz's will since "so far they're doing good". He's in many myths revered as humanity's patron after all. He's playing the gods with the bet and the closing of the doors since ep1. I think he will spend season 2 making alliances with like-minded gods, getting under Tez radar in his weakened state, maybe helping Izel and mankind champions in the shadows, doing some sketchy things with Mictlaccihualt... As for the priest guy Tez came to see to talk about the boy, maybe there's a prophecy involved ? Meso-american civilization are known for the importance they give to the notion of recording time and forseeing the future ( the 5th world predicted to end in hearthquakes for exemple) and since Tez is also god of time, memory and sorcery amongst other things, maybe he's visiting his seer for some premonition head start on Izel. Tez and Quetz are both sides of the same coin often in duality with each other so I'm more than excited to see what will happen in the possible season 2

  • @angelicaramirez7944
    @angelicaramirez7944 3 роки тому +5

    Exelente pronunciación de los nombres de nuestros dioses, (bueno 8/10), no creí que un extranjero pudiera lograrlo, felicidades.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      thank you! I tried my best

  • @TheLordofAnime_
    @TheLordofAnime_ 3 роки тому +4

    The first four gods that we are the four Tezcatlipocas. We already saw Tezcatlipoca and Quetzalcoatl, but the other to were Huitzilapochtli and Xipe Totec. The god of the Sun, War, and human sacrifice, and the god of Agriculture , Disease, and Fire.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      I read through all of your comments, very interesting stuff dude!! Especially the god of war and the god of disease have a lot of potential to be villains in the show!!
      It seems like in the show Tezcatlipoca does have a problem with humans...if I remember correctly it wasn't him who made the current humans, right? that's probably one of the reasons why he doesn't lile them. But every show needs a villain after all so I guess they simply decided Tezcatlipoca would suit that role

    • @TheLordofAnime_
      @TheLordofAnime_ 3 роки тому

      @@frogtoons Yeah Quetzalcoatl made them this go round

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      @@TheLordofAnime_ that explains a lot about the show's plot

    • @TheLordofAnime_
      @TheLordofAnime_ 3 роки тому +1

      @@frogtoons Xipe Totec: god of Fire, Disease, and agriculture. A god who would Flay his skin to form maze seeds to feed humanity.
      Huitzilopochtli: god of War, the Sun, and human sacrifice. Was the main god of the aztecs.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      @@TheLordofAnime_ very intriguing, two very important characters we've got here... Interesting choice by the producers not to include them actively in season 1, but I bet they will have an impact on the story later on given that they're such a big part of the mythology

  • @johnhayward998
    @johnhayward998 3 роки тому +4

    Love your videos man 👍👏😊😊

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      thanks man! that means a lot to me!

    • @johnhayward998
      @johnhayward998 3 роки тому +2

      @@frogtoons
      No problem froggy

  • @lenardbordo9838
    @lenardbordo9838 3 роки тому +5

    I swear I saw a giant winged snake in the last seconds of the season finale!

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +2

      yes! that's probably one of the many forms Quetzalcoatl likes to take on! it's very likely that his "spirit animal" is a feathered serpent

    • @lenardbordo9838
      @lenardbordo9838 3 роки тому +2

      @@frogtoons and Quetzalcoatl just happens to be the most famous mesoamerican god

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      @@lenardbordo9838 do you happen to know if he's famous "for no reason" or if he's famous for a specific reason (like there are the most tellings about him or something similar) ??

    • @lenardbordo9838
      @lenardbordo9838 3 роки тому +2

      @@frogtoons I just think he is the most told about in modern society. He was the first aztec god I ever heard about and my key to the world of the native Mesoamericans. When s.b. lives in the western hemisphere they sooner or later see, read or hear something about the great winged serpent of the Aztecs and the Mayas.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      @@lenardbordo9838 I see! thanks for explaining

  • @SensibleMax
    @SensibleMax 3 роки тому +2

    top vid mate, nice analysis

  • @sophieje6039
    @sophieje6039 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm so upset that the show has been canceled 😭

  • @merlene_vondandamo7076
    @merlene_vondandamo7076 3 роки тому +2

    Thank you for the video ♥️

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      no thank you for watching 🙏🏻

  • @theoneguy4692
    @theoneguy4692 2 роки тому +1

    Man if K’in really did betray Izel and his friends that would have been something else.

  • @alf2540
    @alf2540 3 роки тому +3

    4:43 looks an awful lot like Nezahualcóyotl 👀

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      true!

    • @yulikarin5
      @yulikarin5 3 роки тому

      I think is moctezuma the king that hernan cortez torture jus because gold. I want to see more.

    • @alf2540
      @alf2540 3 роки тому +1

      @@yulikarin5 no I’m 99.999% certain that ain’t Moctezuma just bc of the appearance and the headdress. That’s not moctezumas headdress

  • @MeiYk2
    @MeiYk2 3 роки тому +2

    New sub! 🙋🏻‍♀️

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      thank you and welcome!!

  • @yalisd3563
    @yalisd3563 3 роки тому +1

    Cool!!

  • @DefectoPerfect0
    @DefectoPerfect0 7 місяців тому

    I just finished the series. There's still no season 2 😭
    Is there still hope?

    • @Brickmotion0624
      @Brickmotion0624 6 місяців тому +1

      Got cancelled 😢

    • @DefectoPerfect0
      @DefectoPerfect0 6 місяців тому

      @@Brickmotion0624 anime isn't for the weak hearted. There are too many great shows with only one season 😭

    • @Brickmotion0624
      @Brickmotion0624 6 місяців тому

      @@DefectoPerfect0 I mean I got that from google but the creator says it’s still in production

  • @xboxgamer5374
    @xboxgamer5374 Рік тому +3

    Season 2 is never coming

    • @anastasia...281
      @anastasia...281 7 місяців тому

      Is that official? Although, I would really like to watch the season 2 if they ever make one...

    • @tiffanychan9627
      @tiffanychan9627 5 місяців тому

      @@anastasia...281 The creator of the show posted on twitter(now X) an apology to fans that due to factors out of her control the show as cancelled

  • @XHUERO3
    @XHUERO3 3 роки тому +2

    Good vid. Just sub

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      Appreciate it! Welcome to the channel!

  • @UnniTlilmina
    @UnniTlilmina 3 роки тому +1

    I know nahuatl names are hard, try tu say it in silables Mik-te-ka-si-huatl, ket-sal-ko-atl, yo say tezcatlipoca in the best way posible

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +1

      thanks a lot for the advice!! will keep that in mind

  • @DukePumpking
    @DukePumpking 3 роки тому +5

    I liked onyx equinox and I understand the story behind... But I'm am the only one who had a "what the fuck?!" thoughts by the gods names?

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +5

      admittedly, they are hard to pronounce😅 Changing the gods actual names wouldn't be okay tho...

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 3 роки тому

      @@frogtoons yeah I get why they didn’t do that

    • @hueyitlahtoani9242
      @hueyitlahtoani9242 2 роки тому

      They're from the Nahuatl language, the language that the Mexica (Aztecs) spoke. It's still spoken by many indigenous people in central Mexico.

  • @malwarex2015
    @malwarex2015 3 роки тому +3

    One of the gods was the flayed god

  • @reblossom9329
    @reblossom9329 6 місяців тому

    Is Coool~❤❤

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim25 3 роки тому +1

    I admit I can only pronounce the human names 😅

  • @goatheart5006
    @goatheart5006 3 роки тому +2

    Izel is 13

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 3 роки тому +3

    Second 🥈 and meh 😑 I dislike prophecy stories or hero's journey stories, yet like the art style.

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +2

      the art style is truly amazing! and all the character's designs are so creative

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 3 роки тому +1

      @@frogtoons yeah seems so

    • @gracekim25
      @gracekim25 3 роки тому

      @@pyeitme508 but how one writes those stories in interesting ways like the way they tie Aztec mythology to it and stuff so...yeah🤷‍♀️

  • @octopus3858
    @octopus3858 3 роки тому +3

    Hello forgtoon i am first

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому +2

      😊👍🏻

    • @octopus3858
      @octopus3858 3 роки тому +3

      @@frogtoons 🐸❤👍

    • @octopus3858
      @octopus3858 3 роки тому

      @@frogtoons amphibia season 2b will release on march 6th

  • @MrNoNoBro
    @MrNoNoBro 2 роки тому +1

    This show is just ruining Aztec mythology. Most of the sacrifices where made not to “feed” the gods but as saying thank you to them for giving us everything to live. Tezcatlipoca gave his leg for the human lives and ancient mexicas belived that it was only right for us to thank him in that form. Most of the sacrificed people would volunteer for this.

  • @axolotl4203
    @axolotl4203 3 роки тому +1

    good summary but these pronunciations are not as good, as long as you try i don’t mind though

    • @frogtoons
      @frogtoons  3 роки тому

      thanks! and sorry...😅 I'm not familiar with the way they're supposed to sound at all and tried repeating what I heard in the show. If you have any tips on how to improve my pronunciation feel free to educate me!!

    • @axolotl4203
      @axolotl4203 3 роки тому

      vm.tiktok.com/ZMeAG4noQ/ this tiktok basically explains the pronounciations

  • @Lazyspaceout
    @Lazyspaceout 29 днів тому

    Trash shows, but the concept is a good idea