True, the echo chamber is a primary factor behind the hype about Fedora but it also seems to me that Gnome 4* has also reached a level of out of the box usability that makes it more palatable and "technologies" like Wayland, BTRFS, Pipewire and Flatpak that Fedora has been at the forefront of adoption are increasingly mature and usable. These factors also contribute to Fedora's word of mouth success, I think.
I noticed the big shift when the developer of proton moved over to it and began developing a Fedora iso that was built for gamers, it's called nobara. It's pretty good as it installs most needed dependancies out of the box including the Nvidia drivers.
it's called logistic function or curve aka hype train. and it's not unwarranted, i think. if you look at fedora as one of heavily underrated (by the mainstream desktop uses base) distros over the years, being well buit and maintained and overall solid, its growth in popularity is more like to a normal level, maybe with a slight temporary overcompensation, rather than overhype.
@@ArniesTech i remember when linus and luke were discussing distros for their linux challenge on stream they kind of asked the chat for suggestions and fedora came up linus rolled his eyes and said he's not choosing some silly fringe distro for weirdos, because tha's the impression a normie gets from the name alone. so ofcourse "a proper distro" - gentoo - ended up winning the poll, lol
@@EasyGameEh and thats why Linux got pulled down even more. The only light at LTT is Anthony Young who is a great host to begin with. He makes Linux look easy and normal to the normies. Loved his Gaming on Linux series where he debunked a few myths. 💪
Pop OS was big news for a while. I wasn't able to install Fed 33 and 34 but have had success installing 35 and 36. The Fedora installer needs some work.
İ bought new Dell precision laptop, only Fedora managed to just work without any problems and with noticeable higher performance than windows or other Linux distros. I tried, mint, feren, manjatro and opensuse. Every one had different problem!
i think it was always popuplar because essentially there are only three distros, arch, fedora, debian. %95 percent of all distros were belong to one of the three. there are some others like opensuse, void etc. but they aren't base for another distros, so their slice is negliable. fedora is not the new arch or new ubuntu etc. it was always fedora, i agree on that one. btw, if anything is new ubuntu, it's mint. especially when they are changing their base distro from ubuntu to debian.
I do agree that Fedora is getting a lot more airplay these days :) Just a question though - which distro do you believe is the most technically advanced of all the current distros? I guess I'm referring, mostly, to the more commonly accepted and popular ones that most average users can install and use :) From my perspective, Fedora has become 'better', to me, as my overall Linux knowledge has increased. There are a number of distros that I'm 'happy' to use as a daily driver, and Fedora is definitely one of them.
@@ArniesTech I like openSUSE as well, but unless I spend a lot of time faffing around with mirrors my download rates with openSUSE are crap (I'm an Aussie not a European lol) :) IF they fix up mirrors/download rates, I'll look at openSUSE again, Personally though, I still think Fedora is simpler to use/understand :)
@@emjaycee As a German (SuSE's birth land) I can tell you that the mirrors here are crap as well 🤣 Yep, SuSE is known for slow updates and repositories.
@@ArniesTech LOL... well, given how damn slow Australia's internet is maybe I'll never end up using SuSE :) Fedora is maybe a touch slower than Arch/Ubuntu but it's still pretty good in that regard.
I wanted to use fedora many years ago when Nixie Pixel did a video about Beefy Miracle. But I was new to Linux and was learning. Now I use Nobara Linux because I am a Gamer, and I don't have the skill to make the changes that GloriousEggRoll has done to it. I still love Deb based distros tho and I run Ubuntu on my laptop with Unity De. I
Fedora has been great for a long time. Ever since the initial Fedora core days. I remember my now departed friend challenged me with Linux. He was like if you can't rescue your system if your desktop environment crashes in a tty you need to learn more. At the time I wasn't even sure what that meant. He pushed me to learn more and to enjoy tinkering with Linux.
There are people running Fedora now....because its the "in" thing to do. As opposed to us long time veterans who have been with Fedora since 2003 (when I discovered it....Installed it to a GATEWAY laptop..and have been using it ever since..and what powers my current laptop (Thinkpad T-470) and my desktop (Lenovo ThinkCenter M-93) Gotta love how some people just "join in" JUST because their neighbor is doing it! I prefer to use Fedora not because of any person's influence? but because it "works' for me and my workflow and I love how its stayed out of the way and didn't get complicated and how I can do everything I need to do with out hangups or issues.
I personally use fedora Silverblue and I love it for its compartmentalization of applications and read only kernel image approach. I also enjoy flatpaks. Going forward I think I will definitely have a huge preference for immutable systems.
The reason ppl is talking about Fedora is just because is a good distribution. I started using it way before everybody made a buss on UA-cam, I landed on it after distro hoping for about 2 years. And been using it for 3 years now. There might be a trend about taking about Fedora, but that doesn't mean Fedora doesn't deserve it.
Been running Linux since 1995, been using Fedora for years now. I've done them all. I don't have time to tinker with the OS. I need it to work, so I can do work. Fedora just works, most of the time unlike many other distros.
very observant of you...I jumped on the manjaro distro a few years ago (chris titus) and love it. I'll stick to manjaro kde until it starts to act up on me.
I never go for what linux content creators do, those are videos, information, personal opinions, i always went for what worked for me and it was and is Fedora after distro hopping a lot cause all of them had something that pissed me off :D
I started using Fedora last December because I got a new laptop and wanted something a bit more current than Debian for the toolchain. Fedora is fine. I can't get the Nvidia driver to work but I have a CPU with an iGPU so it's not a huge problem. It updates far too frequently for my liking. I was trying to find a new distro - I'm not a hopper - that wasn't quite so far behind the curve as Debian LTS which is my preference, except for the tools... Also Linus (Torvalds!) uses Fedora, or he did before switching over to Asahi Linux on a MacBook M2. I'm probably going back to Debian or maybe Ubuntu, but I'm not a huge Ubuntu fan. ETA: I use KDE. When I set up Debian on an old MacBook Pro GNOME significantly underperformed KDE. I also use Xfce but mainly use KDE on Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu (that's not hopping, that's trying to find the best distro that suits me for development, not gaming)
Wayland on current Fedora Gnome provides a pretty slick experience. It's a swiper's dream come true. Not my cup of tea, but great for people who don't share my X-based bad habits.
I wonder if it is a hangover from exposure to RedHat? Businesses want someone to blame if something breaks, so paying for RedHat accomplishes that… and there are a host of employees that are already comfortable.
I think the original catch on for Fedora has to do with frustrations with ubuntu over snaps and shipping half gnome updates. Then yes, echo chamber since.
I personally like giving the "odd" kids a chance so to speak. Fedora was never the popular kid in terms of online presence, social media or here on UA-cam. That alone created curiosity for me. And this way I found out that its just another GREAT distro with its own way of doing things 💪😌
So true, I didn't get why everyone was so hyped about, it felt like any other gnome experience, not like super fast than any other arch or debian. Also dnf is painfully slow even after updating the mirrors properly.
Fedora great to certain point. If you know how to use rpm distros. I love fedora but i hate setting everything up by default sudo needs to be set up other things. Should be a tool for fedora to set all of it for you.
I started using Fedora after using OpenSuse for a while and wanting to try something not Ubuntu and not Arch. I installed a beta and planned on switching when it broke. It still hasn’t broken and I’ve grown to like how the distro works. I never made a video about it 😂
Spiral Linux, a Debian stable distro (from the same guy of GeckoLinux), has BTRFS configured out of the box. You can install Pipewire after that if you wish.
BUT i just looked at a stat the said that ubuntu is blasting red hat on web servers, to the tune of ubuntu have like 90% vs red hat's 10% :) So if you work in IT, you should learn ubuntu by that logic, and wait for a video later next week where i talk about it and show the stats
@@KentsTechWorld Outside of web all our blades and Oracle crapware is certified to run Oracle Linux or Redhat Enterprise and nothing else. Some blades also support SuSE enterprise but our software stack does not. Believe it or not my former employer still uses Solaris for their Oracle install. Linux wasn't as reliable
What happened is it made people remember that Fedora was around and then they tried it. Its always as you said been the same but the problem is some of the distros have been worse. Take a look at Ubuntu, its garbage now and I would not recommend it do anyone. I would only tell people who want to try Linux and have a good time (depending on their skill) it would be Fedora, Pop!_OS, EndeavourOS, or Arch. Even Fedora is doing dumb things, like removing GPU accel from Mesa which is a mistake and made their Distro worse for some. If there was a problem with the licensing then Windows would have gotten in trouble a long time ago over it. The license for GPU Rendering is included in the hardware. I love Arch and normally go back to it no matter what I use. But after several issues that messed me over a few too many times I put the kids from Arch to Fedora and have have ZERO issues for over a year. Then I got some issues with Arch myself, so I switched but to Nobara because I have all AMD. GPU rendering works and has lots of things I use already installed. Its been super stable for the few months I have been on it. After a while you just want to use your PC, not constantly play with the OS to get something working or whatever.
I will not touch fedora Linux and arch Linux Or Ubuntu or Linux flavor’s I have way to many issues with it I stay with Linux mint I have no issues at all
In order for one Linux distribution to rise, other distributions have to do something unpopular. Ubuntu, for what ever reasons, is stubborn and so users wander on to the next thing. Right now, Fedora is at the right place at the right time and I have no plans to distro-hop anytime soon. :)
Could Ubuntu just be stubborn because it's what people want from their Ubuntu system? Im sure Ubuntu would be different if their users en masse cried out for a change... If people distro-hop, they'll do that anyway so Ubuntu are unlikely to cater for these people, but for their long term users, i doubt there is a call for such an "unpopular" change.
It's not that others are doing it-----it's the fact that the YOU TUBE ALGORYTHM will pick your channel up for MUCH more views... they could care less about the ratings Fedora itself... If HORSE POOP had a HUGE following suddenly- everybody would be reviewing HORSE POOP- so they could piggyback on the algotythm form MORE views and building their own channels FASTER!!! BASIC MARKETING--- they couldn't care less about Fedora.
Can't really remember openSuSE being the shiny new thing, ever. I remember getting SuSE on disks with 300 page manual - cost about £50 for the box set! Immutable OS' the next fashionable thing, maybe rightly!!
Oh wow, he has finally figured out popularity and advertisement. Bla bla bla *explains how influence, knowledge spread and awareness works*. The really interesting thing was in the first 30 secs: wtf was the movie with the two women you watched?! :D
@@KentsTechWorld Kent you're on the money nearly all of the time. One of the few Linux YTubers to be honest about the pros and cons of Linux. I use MacOS, Linux and Windows btw - each has merit. Danish accent fine by me! Very proficient in a second language unlike most native English speakers. Actually I like Fedora and use it - a good distro, but *one* amongst many. Just use a distro you like and suits you without making grandiose fanboy claims about it!!
True, the echo chamber is a primary factor behind the hype about Fedora but it also seems to me that Gnome 4* has also reached a level of out of the box usability that makes it more palatable and "technologies" like Wayland, BTRFS, Pipewire and Flatpak that Fedora has been at the forefront of adoption are increasingly mature and usable. These factors also contribute to Fedora's word of mouth success, I think.
dont froget that between ibm redhad and fedora they contrribute a huge chunck of code to the kernal
I noticed the big shift when the developer of proton moved over to it and began developing a Fedora iso that was built for gamers, it's called nobara. It's pretty good as it installs most needed dependancies out of the box including the Nvidia drivers.
I switched from Windows to Linux on my Surface Pro 7 this year. And I chose Fedora. It's great.
It's the latest dance craze.
Thats actually a cool thing. Shows that Linux and FOSS has a wide enough reach for such spreads to occur 😎
it's called logistic function or curve aka hype train.
and it's not unwarranted, i think. if you look at fedora as one of heavily underrated (by the mainstream desktop uses base) distros over the years, being well buit and maintained and overall solid, its growth in popularity is more like to a normal level, maybe with a slight temporary overcompensation, rather than overhype.
Perfectly said. I think Fedora has been great forever. But now it just gets the attention it deserves 🙏💪
@@ArniesTech i remember when linus and luke were discussing distros for their linux challenge on stream they kind of asked the chat for suggestions and fedora came up linus rolled his eyes and said he's not choosing some silly fringe distro for weirdos, because tha's the impression a normie gets from the name alone. so ofcourse "a proper distro" - gentoo - ended up winning the poll, lol
@@EasyGameEh and thats why Linux got pulled down even more. The only light at LTT is Anthony Young who is a great host to begin with. He makes Linux look easy and normal to the normies. Loved his Gaming on Linux series where he debunked a few myths. 💪
Pop OS was big news for a while. I wasn't able to install Fed 33 and 34 but have had success installing 35 and 36. The Fedora installer needs some work.
Fedora 36 is nice with gnome and wayland. Can’t replace arch with AUR and Pacman.
İ bought new Dell precision laptop, only Fedora managed to just work without any problems and with noticeable higher performance than windows or other Linux distros.
I tried, mint, feren, manjatro and opensuse. Every one had different problem!
i think it was always popuplar because essentially there are only three distros, arch, fedora, debian. %95 percent of all distros were belong to one of the three. there are some others like opensuse, void etc. but they aren't base for another distros, so their slice is negliable. fedora is not the new arch or new ubuntu etc. it was always fedora, i agree on that one. btw, if anything is new ubuntu, it's mint. especially when they are changing their base distro from ubuntu to debian.
I do agree that Fedora is getting a lot more airplay these days :) Just a question though - which distro do you believe is the most technically advanced of all the current distros? I guess I'm referring, mostly, to the more commonly accepted and popular ones that most average users can install and use :) From my perspective, Fedora has become 'better', to me, as my overall Linux knowledge has increased. There are a number of distros that I'm 'happy' to use as a daily driver, and Fedora is definitely one of them.
I guess, Kent would go with OpenSUSE Tumbleweed to answer your question 😉
@@ArniesTech I like openSUSE as well, but unless I spend a lot of time faffing around with mirrors my download rates with openSUSE are crap (I'm an Aussie not a European lol) :) IF they fix up mirrors/download rates, I'll look at openSUSE again, Personally though, I still think Fedora is simpler to use/understand :)
@@emjaycee As a German (SuSE's birth land) I can tell you that the mirrors here are crap as well 🤣 Yep, SuSE is known for slow updates and repositories.
@@ArniesTech LOL... well, given how damn slow Australia's internet is maybe I'll never end up using SuSE :) Fedora is maybe a touch slower than Arch/Ubuntu but it's still pretty good in that regard.
@@emjaycee thats the beauty of choice we have when it comes to FOSS, Michael 💪😌🙏
I wanted to use fedora many years ago when Nixie Pixel did a video about Beefy Miracle. But I was new to Linux and was learning.
Now I use Nobara Linux because I am a Gamer, and I don't have the skill to make the changes that GloriousEggRoll has done to it. I still love Deb based distros tho and I run Ubuntu on my laptop with Unity De.
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Fedora has been great for a long time. Ever since the initial Fedora core days. I remember my now departed friend challenged me with Linux. He was like if you can't rescue your system if your desktop environment crashes in a tty you need to learn more. At the time I wasn't even sure what that meant. He pushed me to learn more and to enjoy tinkering with Linux.
Exactly. And now its finally getting the attention it deserves 💪😎
There are people running Fedora now....because its the "in" thing to do. As opposed to us long time veterans who have been with Fedora since 2003 (when I discovered it....Installed it to a GATEWAY laptop..and have been using it ever since..and what powers my current laptop (Thinkpad T-470) and my desktop (Lenovo ThinkCenter M-93) Gotta love how some people just "join in" JUST because their neighbor is doing it! I prefer to use Fedora not because of any person's influence? but because it "works' for me and my workflow and I love how its stayed out of the way and didn't get complicated and how I can do everything I need to do with out hangups or issues.
I personally use fedora Silverblue and I love it for its compartmentalization of applications and read only kernel image approach. I also enjoy flatpaks. Going forward I think I will definitely have a huge preference for immutable systems.
The reason ppl is talking about Fedora is just because is a good distribution. I started using it way before everybody made a buss on UA-cam, I landed on it after distro hoping for about 2 years. And been using it for 3 years now.
There might be a trend about taking about Fedora, but that doesn't mean Fedora doesn't deserve it.
Been running Linux since 1995, been using Fedora for years now. I've done them all. I don't have time to tinker with the OS. I need it to work, so I can do work. Fedora just works, most of the time unlike many other distros.
very observant of you...I jumped on the manjaro distro a few years ago (chris titus) and love it. I'll stick to manjaro kde until it starts to act up on me.
I never go for what linux content creators do, those are videos, information, personal opinions, i always went for what worked for me and it was and is Fedora after distro hopping a lot cause all of them had something that pissed me off :D
And of course Fedora is unchanging as it was tied to Red Hat (hence its name). These distro are addressed towards businesses, that hate change.
I started using Fedora last December because I got a new laptop and wanted something a bit more current than Debian for the toolchain. Fedora is fine. I can't get the Nvidia driver to work but I have a CPU with an iGPU so it's not a huge problem. It updates far too frequently for my liking. I was trying to find a new distro - I'm not a hopper - that wasn't quite so far behind the curve as Debian LTS which is my preference, except for the tools... Also Linus (Torvalds!) uses Fedora, or he did before switching over to Asahi Linux on a MacBook M2. I'm probably going back to Debian or maybe Ubuntu, but I'm not a huge Ubuntu fan.
ETA: I use KDE. When I set up Debian on an old MacBook Pro GNOME significantly underperformed KDE. I also use Xfce but mainly use KDE on Debian, Fedora and Ubuntu (that's not hopping, that's trying to find the best distro that suits me for development, not gaming)
Wayland on current Fedora Gnome provides a pretty slick experience. It's a swiper's dream come true. Not my cup of tea, but great for people who don't share my X-based bad habits.
I wonder if it is a hangover from exposure to RedHat? Businesses want someone to blame if something breaks, so paying for RedHat accomplishes that… and there are a host of employees that are already comfortable.
Opensuse tumbleweed will be next on the hype list in a year lol
I think the original catch on for Fedora has to do with frustrations with ubuntu over snaps and shipping half gnome updates. Then yes, echo chamber since.
I personally like giving the "odd" kids a chance so to speak. Fedora was never the popular kid in terms of online presence, social media or here on UA-cam. That alone created curiosity for me. And this way I found out that its just another GREAT distro with its own way of doing things 💪😌
So true, I didn't get why everyone was so hyped about, it felt like any other gnome experience, not like super fast than any other arch or debian. Also dnf is painfully slow even after updating the mirrors properly.
Fedora great to certain point. If you know how to use rpm distros. I love fedora but i hate setting everything up by default sudo needs to be set up other things. Should be a tool for fedora to set all of it for you.
People praising Fedora 36 for its vanilla Gnome experience should really give Manjaro Gnome Minimal a try.
I started using Fedora after using OpenSuse for a while and wanting to try something not Ubuntu and not Arch. I installed a beta and planned on switching when it broke. It still hasn’t broken and I’ve grown to like how the distro works.
I never made a video about it 😂
I switched to Fedora because, at the time, AFAIK, none of the other distros had Pipewire and BTRFS out of the box.
Spiral Linux, a Debian stable distro (from the same guy of GeckoLinux), has BTRFS configured out of the box. You can install Pipewire after that if you wish.
I came to Fedora this year because of Silverblue.
Great points Kent
Maybe you're on to something with the YT algorithm. I watched one video on how rooted Joe B is and now I get recommended 10 per day...
I'll just stick to Arch that's not Arch (Endevour and/or CALAM Arch).
My grandmother started using fedora before it was cool.
IF you work in IT then Fedora is nice to learn as it's similar to redhat enterprise and DNF is more robust than apt-get.
BUT i just looked at a stat the said that ubuntu is blasting red hat on web servers, to the tune of ubuntu have like 90% vs red hat's 10% :) So if you work in IT, you should learn ubuntu by that logic, and wait for a video later next week where i talk about it and show the stats
@@KentsTechWorld Outside of web all our blades and Oracle crapware is certified to run Oracle Linux or Redhat Enterprise and nothing else. Some blades also support SuSE enterprise but our software stack does not. Believe it or not my former employer still uses Solaris for their Oracle install. Linux wasn't as reliable
Using Fedora for over a year. Not a single glitch.
What happened is it made people remember that Fedora was around and then they tried it. Its always as you said been the same but the problem is some of the distros have been worse. Take a look at Ubuntu, its garbage now and I would not recommend it do anyone. I would only tell people who want to try Linux and have a good time (depending on their skill) it would be Fedora, Pop!_OS, EndeavourOS, or Arch. Even Fedora is doing dumb things, like removing GPU accel from Mesa which is a mistake and made their Distro worse for some. If there was a problem with the licensing then Windows would have gotten in trouble a long time ago over it. The license for GPU Rendering is included in the hardware.
I love Arch and normally go back to it no matter what I use. But after several issues that messed me over a few too many times I put the kids from Arch to Fedora and have have ZERO issues for over a year. Then I got some issues with Arch myself, so I switched but to Nobara because I have all AMD. GPU rendering works and has lots of things I use already installed. Its been super stable for the few months I have been on it.
After a while you just want to use your PC, not constantly play with the OS to get something working or whatever.
It works.
I will not touch fedora Linux and arch Linux
Or Ubuntu or Linux flavor’s I have way to many issues with it I stay with Linux mint I have no issues at all
I use fedora btw
In order for one Linux distribution to rise, other distributions have to do something unpopular. Ubuntu, for what ever reasons, is stubborn and so users wander on to the next thing. Right now, Fedora is at the right place at the right time and I have no plans to distro-hop anytime soon. :)
Could Ubuntu just be stubborn because it's what people want from their Ubuntu system? Im sure Ubuntu would be different if their users en masse cried out for a change... If people distro-hop, they'll do that anyway so Ubuntu are unlikely to cater for these people, but for their long term users, i doubt there is a call for such an "unpopular" change.
It's not that others are doing it-----it's the fact that the YOU TUBE ALGORYTHM will pick your channel up for MUCH more views... they could care less about the ratings Fedora itself... If HORSE POOP had a HUGE following suddenly- everybody would be reviewing HORSE POOP- so they could piggyback on the algotythm form MORE views and building their own channels FASTER!!! BASIC MARKETING--- they couldn't care less about Fedora.
I don't think Linux are so dumb.
besides, a distro has also a philosophy, so it's not just about the new cool thing.
they are
I choose Arch.
Nah, I came back to fedora, cos of new gnome
Will OpenSUSE get their hype?
maybe
Can't really remember openSuSE being the shiny new thing, ever. I remember getting SuSE on disks with 300 page manual - cost about £50 for the box set! Immutable OS' the next fashionable thing, maybe rightly!!
Oh wow, he has finally figured out popularity and advertisement. Bla bla bla *explains how influence, knowledge spread and awareness works*.
The really interesting thing was in the first 30 secs: wtf was the movie with the two women you watched?!
:D
@@KentsTechWorld 😝
What kind of accent is that and why you struggle to pronounce some word
Danisk and thinking faster then I speak. Plus some dyslexia
What kind of comment is that, and why do you struggle with grammar? 🤦♂️
@@KentsTechWorld Man, if I were you, I would not bother explaining myself to some random idiots ;)
@@turisma_music It's fun to mess with people or see what they come up with for crazy things :P
@@KentsTechWorld Kent you're on the money nearly all of the time. One of the few Linux YTubers to be honest about the pros and cons of Linux. I use MacOS, Linux and Windows btw - each has merit.
Danish accent fine by me! Very proficient in a second language unlike most native English speakers.
Actually I like Fedora and use it - a good distro, but *one* amongst many. Just use a distro you like and suits you without making grandiose fanboy claims about it!!