Arduino vs. Wires! And the winner is?
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2023
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Here is the tutorial about how to design and build the board from the video: ua-cam.com/video/OgcWAOIHsDU/v-deo.html
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The video us unable.
Not everyone is a beginner just learning about basic microcontrollers. Some people design prototype arduino circuits for dedicated end uses. In fact, a lot of us do that. The end uses require wire wrapped or perf boards be built. We all start with breadboards to prototype and debug, and then make the switch, but there's nothing classy about perf board end products. Moving from breadboard to a circuit board makes a lot of sense for those makers who are picky about appearance, and can afford the $5.00. Thanks for posting.
Tanks for the tutorial
Let's just unnecessarily add $5 and 2 weeks to our project and skip the prototype phase entirely. And that's assuming you did the board layout right and didn't have to change anything.
If you simulate everything, real life prototypes usually become unnecessary
@@claytoncallaway6412 then you must not be doing anything that interesting.
@@ClokworkGremlin this his how most electrical engineering in professional settings is done
@@claytoncallaway6412 In this kind of projects building a real world circuit is important. Because simulations are based upon a mathematical model of reality, they are NOT reality, it's precision will obviously depend on the simulator, the mathematical model that you are using and variables you feed it. In some university projects there were times that the simulation, on Simulink, Multisim and Proteus, misrepresented reality or seemed to work but in reality the circuit was trash.
@@MARATs_BATHTUB all circuit simulators use SPICE so the simulator shouldn't matter. The only reason a simulator would be wrong is if the user uses the wrong variables or if they use "fake" parts to build the circuit. circuit simulators are 99.99% accurate when used properly
I mean, a breadboard is explicitly for prototyping. Just get a new breadboard if the spring contacts have worn out.
Yeah a lot of people in the comments here seem to forget the whole point of a breadboard is that it is a quick, easy and mostly reliable way of connecting components together for prototyping. A lot of people seem to see it as only for beginners.
@@conorstewart2214 Breadboard is for quick look up, then converting to PCB, and later ditching Arduino.
@@mateuszzimon8216 It really isnt, it is for testing out things before making PCBs or other more permanent ways of making circuits.
@@conorstewart2214 and what i told?
Breadboards are for quick look up (proof of concept) then converting to PCB
And get a good one like the BB830, it makes quite the difference.
What a world where we can just go “fuck breadboards I’m going to design and order my own custom PCB”
I'm just waiting for the "fuck breadboards I'm gonna cnc my own pcb" becomes as accessible and accurate as 3d printing
In a professional project then yes you can as you have a very clear set of goals, have a lot more experience than a hobbyist and there has been a lot of design going on before you try and make a PCB and you typically use components that you can’t use on a breadboard and have very strict requirements for how they are connected.
For hobbyists though it is much harder and most projects can be done just with a bit of perfboard without needing a PCB. This channel though seems like it is more meant for people doing or trying to get into professional PCB design.
@@conorstewart2214 true. For my bigger projects i usually make a pcb, hovewer before making it i always make a prototype "at home". For those smaller projects I don't recommend even attempting to make a pcb.
This completely ignores that 70% of arduino fiddlers that have zero idea of power supplies, drivers or circuit design. It’s a great goal, but at LEAST 6-12 months away for a dedicated newbie.
Started messing around with Java when I was 13.. had my own private server.. got into some sql for donations and such… wanted to engineer aeronautical systems, settled for a degree in electrical and computer engineering… dropped at the start of covid, picked up some arduino stuff, mainly used jumper wires in scenarios like this, only ever designed and had manufactured 1 pcb back in school.. since then, I’ve wrote a variety of windows forms apps, made a few 32u4 projects, made a couple attiny projects, and now I’m being given the opportunity to become an entry level engineer… learning should never ever stop. And we should never hesitate to revisit previous lessons… a dedicated anything will learn until death.
bro look at the description, this is an ad for his 3 hour course on designing a board
can't believe you soldered a crimp terminal.
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can save a lot of time from trying to figure out why something is not working and finding out it's a bad cable. especially for tiny cables, soldering is much more reliable, than just crimping them. Learned the hard way ....
@@RobertFeranec until it breaks between the solder and the insulation
@@AndruShows Im doing same on every project And i never had aby problem with it. Its Simple And fast
Industry doesn’t solder crimps for a reason. It’s just a UA-cam thing because they use the wrong tools or don’t do it properly
You forgot the part where you realize you hadn't considered something important about the circuit design, so you need to redo the whole thing, re-layout a new board, spend more money and wait another couple of weeks to get a new one made, desolder everything from the old one, resolder everything onto the new one, then discover you still screwed up the board design somewhere and so you give up and cut a bunch of traces and solder bodge wires across things just to get it to turn on correctly.
All because your short temper prevented you from properly prototyping your design on a breadboard and making sure it worked right to begin with like normal, stable people do...
That was sooo easy
Learning the software
Designing the PCB
Ordering it
Waiting days for it to arrive
Praying for everything went well
Just to figure out you ordered the wrong colour for the PCB
Than using a few cables & a breadboard to test the circuit
But what if you used the wrong color for the breadboard?
I can do this for a few days by myself, with simple components. Every russian or asian electronic guy can do this.
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2 hours -> 3 months XD
That's not exactly fair. JLC can get 4-layer boards to you in a week.
@@teknoman117
It depends on your location.
@@teknoman117They can, if you pay through the nose for expedited shipping.
@@teknoman117 I think he's including the time it takes to make three or four revisions. Something you could do on a breadboard in 2 hours.
Edit: In America it takes about 2 weeks unless you wanna pay >$50 for shipping. +The time it takes to build, test, revise, and order again. Each time.
I got another idea: avoid dupont jumper wires as much as possible. This little trick has saved me a ton of headaches
You still need to prototype in that breadboard anyway......
Not necessarily. Generally two pcb revs will get you there.
@@jacobamador7989
And a month before every rev.
What if you want to add something or made a mistake there? You know that the wires are just for prototyping.
Nice work! The next level is to turn the Arduino and the shield into a single pcb and either remove or pin out the unnecessary components.
Think you're missing the point entirely about the breadboard. You use the breadboard to develop the circuit to its final design, then transfer that to a proper circuit board
5 hours vs 5 months
Once you're on this way, let's save some money and replace arduino by a 16F pic chip...
You must have a video of how you made that shield and ordered it.
Ahh yes, why spend 10 minutes with jumper wires to control a servo or two and a motor when instead you could spend several hours + delivery time to do the exact same thing?
I would've used a prototype shield. It saves time, is cheaper and allows for future upgrades.
Unless you need many of course, then this is the way.
Exactly. You do this hard soldering in the most final state of your project. For developing purposes we still use prototype shields, w/o small breadboard... :)
But i have switched to esp32, raspberry kind of thing, so yeah. .. Have lot of fun building stuff bro! :)
well that terminal is not made to last heh.
Lol
what app did you use
That's how you do it:
Schematic --> Bread Board --> Layout
And please don't solder crimp contacts
I've never seen a circuit board be used as a heatsink before. Pretty neat!
Arduino stills good i have 2 years working with it and nothing bad happend...I have now some of the best progects like temperature RGB led
Totally agree, for one I could never get any breadboard stuff to work properly, and for another JLC pcb costs are so cheap these days I don’t see the point.
I would also say your tip about breaking out and prototyping parts of your design on cheap pcbs rather than the final version was very helpful.
Tell me you've never worked with electronics without telling me you've never worked with electronics.
@@isaackvasager9957 Ownt.
What a tip on stripping the wire with SAK! 😮😊
I need to make a pcb!!
What program do you use to make these card designs?
Wires. This could be helpful if you're making an IOT project.
So you are suggesting that we don't prototype?
The most fun part?
Name app?
That looked like the electronic architecture for an rc plane :)
What application do you use to make pcb layout?
And the winner is still wires apparently, even though you tried to streamline it with a Shield.
or another option is to use typical 4 stand telephone wires and use them to make jumpers that lay flat on the board. You have a wire stripper anyways
Buy a wireless wifi
Looks inside
Wires
seriously, you dont just jump in to a pcb design without either breadboarding or simulating first, unless you have a lot of time and money on your hands and dont mind ending up with hacked up pcbs
What is do is use an esp32 or arduino nano and plug it into a breadboard and use solid core breadboard wires instead of dupont jumper wires
Good content actually underrated
blud really dropped all those jumper wires on the breadboard 💀
Breadboards are for prototyping and fixing… not the actual project as a whole, pcb comes last when you want it more portable and as a whole, a actual device, you don’t just have a breadboard in your charger, pcb are breadboard but finished and meant for certain circuits.
How to make circuit design
Que herramientas usas para pelar, y añadir los puertos de conexión?
The best part was the SAK wire cutter.
This so clean
Where did you manufacture the PCB?
it's quicker to just bread board it. by the time you fire up altium create the symbols and footprints of nessessary you could have made a breadboard and tested it. altium declines anyways after 2010
I didn't use Altium for this - that would take too long to design. I used EasyEDA, much easier and faster: ua-cam.com/video/OgcWAOIHsDU/v-deo.html
Why does the motor give me the "Aaaaaaaaaaaaaw" meme vibe?
Cost effective?
What software you’re using to create the board?
did u do all that so the parts play the tune Erika?
whats the tool to make the wire come with connector
Yes , i can't wait ... WAIT ... I literally can't wait for weeks to try my project 😂😂😂😂
"Do it right" ... procedes to solder a crimped connection... Maybe also get a proper wirestripper instead of using your multitool to half ass it.
Man your work is eloquent & excellent
how can ı find those cbles
The wire is supposed to go into the crimp zone, never have I seen some crimp like that & solder it into place
Where can i learn how to do like him?
We use breadboard to create prototypes 😅
making pcbs is very fun and interesting
Great work
Personally I like all the wires. If it was a permanent build then would go this route.
4xAA Battery? Realy? Omg.... :(
.. that's three separate motors, yaw tilt and roll?
Whatcha makin mr engineer dude
Absolutely perfect 👌 ❤ 😍
Awesome content.
Отличная идея вместо того чтобы отладить здесь и сейчас ты ждёшь как идиот посылку с платой. 🗿 👌
Why didn't you put a microcontroller on your pcb? It still looks bad
Pov: you like electronics and you're rick
Then you find out it doesn't work, have to design, pay for, and wait for delivery of another one, all because you got slightly annoyed at a breadboard
Good job👌
I keep seeing comments defending breadboard, but imo breadboard are useless. Simple circuits like this that are guerenteed to work don't need to be prototyped
I love the process and everything, but i think the point of Arduinos are to get people into robotics and engineering without having to go through all the intense complexities right away. Still love the project though, just not sure its for Arduino beginners
Nice!!
одно не противоречит другому. Пока платы доставляются 1-1,5 месяца, Ардуино позволяет занять время и получить кое-какой результат.
Just get a protoboard shield
What's the app for designing your project
EasyEDA ua-cam.com/video/OgcWAOIHsDU/v-deo.html
What did we learn? Never do wiring work on a live circuit
Yeah the problem is the cost especially if it prototypes
There are "base shields" That do this way better"
Orrr go jumperless...
So there's this project called jumperless, which as the name says is a breadboard that doesn't need jumper wires. Check it out.
Breadboard frequency range:
DC-1MHz
I hated it every time I accidentally unplugged a wire from my breadboard which always resulted in my entire setup falling on the ground and all my remaining wires on top of it. I love designing a custom board and then paying and waiting for the order so I can spin 2 motors that aren't connected to anything 😂
wires and recycled parts are the best❤.
Hey Robert need your help in one project. Can you please help me in that?
where did u get the custom pcb?
it's from my tutorial here ua-cam.com/video/OgcWAOIHsDU/v-deo.html
@@RobertFeranec thank you!
Why not Arduino vs PIC, is difficult?
I'm sorry but I'm not the type of person who will spend 70$ to make the PCB and then deliver it. I will instead solder a buncha wires.
Arduino vs. Wires! And the winner is?
Wires, ofcourse for prototyping because most arduino newbies have no clue about the knowledge required to do these whatsoever
Не ведитесь. Прототип лучше собрать на макетной плате. А готовое изделие на печатной. Иначе могут быть сюрпризы.
What app bro
In this video you compare a breadbord and a custome PCB. It does not make sense. Breadbord is just to run tests in order to build a prototype.
A custom PCB does not replace a breadbord!
Breadboard -> perfboard -> pcb
Program name
Why is it called breadboard and not cheeseboard since it’s got a bunch of holes in it? That is my question.
I think you've misunderstood the meaning of the word "prototype".
Also, as to which is better depends entirely on your use case.
What software is that?
EasyEDA. Here is the full tutorial ua-cam.com/video/OgcWAOIHsDU/v-deo.html
Arduino vs wires or Arduino vs pcb? Since you use arduino in both versions 😅
Was that a cat 🐈😺 purring?
Didn't really liked the way he just sliced open that bag aswell
Ya know you could do this or just buy a screw sheild