SIP VAPE | BEST vespa IGNITION | FMP-Solid PASSion |
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- finally a vespa ignition from an experienced motorbike proffessional = VAPE.cz with a 110 Watt power and vertical pickup contacts solve the annyoing isues with flywheel + crank stump.
see the dough test: • vespa PLAY DOUGH picku...
good parts, proper quality, a lot of watts even in low revs, i like it!
cause have a look at the IDM ignitions, in low revs, they only deliver very weak electric power = you again do have a stoneage 6 volt headlight and the indicators do not work... (?!??! for hundreds of euros this is really bad joke)
potentials i saw:
groundplate pretty thin at the edge, even though there is enough space / long hole needed for the cdi that it fits the standard cdi holder holes / plugs smaller than standard / SPORT vcdi curve not appropiate for the street / more than one curve would be state of the art see overrev (also vape) / flywheel balancing (just the magnets are) /
stick to the ROAD version with STATIC ignition. do NOT use the RACE Vcdi with VARIABLE timing on the street, the ignition curve is for race. on the road, it steal quite some performance. feelable and measureable, see:
note:
its not a SIP only, its a sip VAPE, which is very good, sip is not saying we are experienced to offer good reliable ignition, but we can organise it at a proffessional company and offer it to you! honest statement!
checkout vape homepage
www.vape.cz/en/...
established in 1991 = 19y experience with ignitions, this ensures good quality management, based on experience with exactly these electronical parts and THATs ingenious!
cause vespa scene suffers from lack of quality from divers suppliers... endcostumers can be easily fooled, marketing helps, everything is sellable, profit comes before costumer satisfaction. good quality would be just fair, a win/win for both sides, seller and buyer, but often its not provided.
now checkout the other fancy IDM ignitions, such as:
vespatronic, parmakit, malossi, polini, pinasco, evergreen, vmc etc.
do you think these brands are proffessionals for ignitions? Or just dealers, buying, branding, reselling? now compare the typical 4 coil stator with each other, what do you see ;) exactly. you can assume its pretty much the same hardware, now compare the prices for the same hardware AND then surf ebay, alibaba, aliexpress etc and u will find the stator for 15 bucks.
i would rather go for hardware from a proffessional, for exactly this hardware
= vape = the new sip VAPE ignition
for a very good price
therefore, the best on the market for me!
yes, the overrev ignition is also from VAPE ;)
#vespa #VAPE #ignition
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DISCLAIMER: the information shown in this video, is about THIS specific hardware. it is my personal observation documented with this video. It DOESNT automatically mean, that all such parts by this producer or seller do have or will have same issues.
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I have a SIP / VAPE sport kit on my nearly stock V50R. The kit had the same small electrical connectors and missing longhole in CDI bracket. Bought the kit 1 year ago and used it al summer without any problems. Why do everbody recommend variable CDI for race bikes only? I think it works awsome on my slow and weak moped as well
thinking vs proof. My recommendation is not thinking but based on a real test. video coming up soon: static 17 vs variable 23°,sip vape, m244,
50-100kmh, 3rd gear, variable 1,5s slower than static AND engine feels way weaker, it steals a lot of characteristic of the new sip road 3. lets say at least THIS curve is absolutely not for the road.
Shouldn't peak rpm match the same degree's as standard? Don't gain any hp just gain torque though the range
The new SIP Vape comes with the regulator. Is it necessary to install the regulator that are provided in the set?
yes
Hello
i bought a sip vape dc but i don't know how to hook it up on my px with battery and starter
Can you help me with the assembly knowing that I won't have a starter motor?
thanks
Ricardo
sorry. dont like electrics
Great Video as usual 👌 I have a bgm 187cc and sip road 3, I have been told by most that I need the DC Static but do you recommend the Variable? PM tuning did say the Static is basically just an expensive fly wheel, thank you
pm tuning, tells a lot, when the day is long. also heared other funny, technical wrong statements. 🤦♂️ very sad. but i know get some typical approaches in the uk i see here and there.
na, thats very wrong. its a very good stator. sport ignition timing curve is bad for the road.
vape road is perfect for the street.
@@FreakMoPed8 thank you for taking the time to clarify for, much appreciated, keeps the great videos coming 😀 👍
Is this ignition set is also applicable for sprint veloce? Thanks
you need to surf if they offer it for small sprint crank stumps,
May i know the size of your idle jet and main jet? And the size of the carb you use?
which engine u mean. which setup
which engine u mean. which setup
Px 150e with sip vape ignition ( flywheel, stator, cdi)
Great video, could you please show the regulator side of the vespa, how you connected it.
I'm having trouble connecting my Sip ignition on my 2005 PX150.
I bought the DC version and I get low watts, the light is now weaker then before with stock stator.
Also the battery is not getting charged.
Keep the original regulator. why changing it if its ok.
me too, I've same experience, SIP regulator did not have wire/pin connect to the Headlamp and the output voltage only 12V , product description said it can produce 13.8V
@@FreakMoPed8 do the regulator give more power or can manage it better than the standar one ? Why adding one if not
Great video! And of course, it’s not intelligent pay extra for the brand 🙄 do you know if that Vape SIP kit would fit for a LML NV 4 stroke 150cc 2013?
Sry no vespa/lml 4stroke experience at all!
@@FreakMoPed8 ☹️
do they have an electric starter version for the flywheel/magneto? if not, do you have recommendation for alternative flywheels/magneto
dont think so. havent seen one yet
@@FreakMoPed8 also I am curious, does the flywheel suck air into the engine?
Great Video , could you advise on the timing degrees for a 1959 Vespa Douglas using the SIP kit ? regards Dave
Standard cylinder?
@@FreakMoPed8 yes all standard
what are your engine specs? i bought the same ignition , so i have an idea what to expect..
thanks👍
i dont understand, which effect are you expecting? a) more WATT b) lighter flywheel effect, thats it. the exact setup doesnt matter, its the same with every engine.
Hi mate what’s your opinion comparing vespatronic and sip ignitions?
By the way the videos are tops
Thx! sip VAPE is vape.cz, checkout their page, offering ignitions for a wide range of bikes for 20 years or so, so they do know what they are doing. They are ignition professionists = sip vape very forst choice
vespatronic, parmakit, pinasco, polini, malossi, evergreen, vmc etc all the same china/taiwan ignition, where u can find the stator online for 15.- any more questions? ;)
Absolutely sip vape. Not really comparable with the other cheap 4 coil ignitions, its a dofferent league.
on malossi 221 sport how many degrees should that variable be set? thank you very much
that it has 17-18 at 6000
try static someone. u might be surprised
@@FreakMoPed8 so .... stator position 22 degrees? or 21?
I have an AC version on my px150e, but keep blowing all my bulbs when rev up, can you give me some advise? Thanks
regulator defect
if I use a standard engine but replace the sip ignition, does it affect the wasteful or not the gasoline?
You mean leas fuel consumotion? no. Better do a small otuning light, that could show some fuel effect
looks alot like a modern scooter stator like yamaha aerox or gilera runner. maybe it is based on those design. how does it compare with vespatronic? mine is shitty especially on low rpm. very low output voltage on low rpm and the weight is too light for my preference.
Read infotext of the video 😉
all these ignitions are the same but different labeled. yes, really crappy watt at low rev, kindof a big step back to the 60ies to 6 volt candles 😂👍
have a parmkit on my px polini 177 with porting and rebore....do I set the stator at the 125 marks or 200 ...thanks real need the advice
no marks at all. You need to set ignition timing in detail. marls are always wrong. Its 17-18 degree. No matter if 177, 210 or 244
@@FreakMoPed8 thanks very much
at 6.26 for variable it's this position ?
Depends on the crankshaft groove
Can that stator fit in Bajaj cheetak scooter
Which one. Left or. Right. It depends on the crankshaft stump and flywheel
can it be combined with cdi bgm?
no. and omg why would you do that? Vape is a ignition proffessional for 30years, bgm is just a part dealer, branding everything possible to make max profit. I recommend buying real products, from. Real. Producers, not just branders
Thats why it is so nice that sip of course doesnt hide the origin of the parts. Its a sip VAPE. not just a SIP.
fly tech his better
not at all. check alibaba aliexpress how much these stators are sold. only a few bucks. which i dicates the quality. its offered under varioua brands, none of the real producers but just vespa/lambretta parts dealers.
not to speak about terrible low power, turning lights into candles at idle.
now check vape.cz homepage
for 30y they offer ignitiona for motorbikes for over 30y already.
they are proffessionals.
all 4coil asia stator brands & dealers, not.
fly tech his better made in italy@@FreakMoPed8
packed? for aprox 8 different brands? 😉😉😉 just look for the typical 4 coil stator. its all very very cheap asian hardware as i already posted.
And as always, you made thorugh and interesting video!
🙏👍🍻
Where can I buy this
Sip scootershop
change the plan for static, you nail it, fmp..thank you
Good choice! the better one 👍🍻
instaBlaster.
This ignition sip also can fix with vespa super?i worry the shaft of super cannot fix with them
you need to see if sip offers a version for the small crank stump
They should do a CDI like kheper for the race version
Why not just buy a Motorcycle which will be way faster and better handling. Buy a BMW R1250? Or S1000RR ? I guess BMWs are cheap in Germany?
exactly! BUT bmw is like a disease around here with all mid 40ies, if you go for a ride out and park it, you nearlly cant find it anymore after the break, so much GS are around... so i do ride a TRIUMPH ;) both worlds are fun. motorbike and a spicy vespa & as well an automatic of course. just one thing is boring, isnt it. what are you riding
and dont forget the need for men to do something with their hands, building your own engine and riding it lager on is FUN and brings satisfaction which men need ;)
touring only with motorbike, i need 120hp and TOP suspension :D
ua-cam.com/video/BMe6s038fGw/v-deo.html
The idea is to gain the power out of the simple Vespa engine and not easily buy a stronger bike. This is boring for technical interested men.
@@FreakMoPed8 I see your point. I have a PX with Malossi 177 kit. Ported cases, bigger carb, exhaust, race crank, clutch etc etc. I took lot of advice from your videos.
I also have 6 motorcycles ranging from 200 to 1000cc.
While I enjoy and love my PX, for longer/faster and mountain-road (twisty roads) I use my Motorcycles here in Australia. I am too afraid to ride a scooter through the hills due to lack of balance and power.
I grip my bike with my feets and knees (on the tank) for leaning and turning fast. Can't do that on a PX.
Autos? I absolutely hate them. I once unsubscribed from you for a month after you started doing autos. Thankfully you are not doing them now.
By the way, loved your Triumph.
Stay safe.
true words mate 🍻😎
Ist der stator auch bei der AC Variante Massefrei? Danke für das Video!
sorry. versteh nur bahnhof. lg
Good