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How To Do An Allison Transmission Service. Allison 4" and 2" Sump Oil Change.
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2016
- Many Diesel Engines are bolted to an Allison Transmission for reliable automatic shifting and doing proper services to the transmission is a great way to make sure the transmission runs without too many problems. This video goes into detail about how to properly drain, refill, and change the filters on the 3000 and 4000 series of Allison transmissions with 2" and 4" sumps. Donations to the channel can be made to AdeptApe@yahoo.com on Paypal.
I have been on YT since 2013 as a Video Creator and I must say you did a fantastic job with all the good solid info needed to perform the filter change ! Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed the video.
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Thank you for this video. I’m doing my coach’s 3000 Allison next week. You have helped me greatly. Your videos are very informative.
Even though the video is several years old now, it is a great and comprehensive video! Thank you, very helpful!
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge on everything caterpillar engines to Allison Transmissions you are a very special person I thank you again God bless you and family
Thank you!
Clear and to the point, meticulously done too.
EXCELLENT PRESENTATION CONCISE AND RIGHT TO THE POINT NOT A LOT OF WORTHLESS FILLER! THANK YOU!
I had to pull an Allison out of a kenworth this week. What a nightmare getting at a few of the bell housing bolts was. I will never again complain about a standard transmission. I particularly had a hard time with the bolts on the left and right side near the unused mount plates. I took the liberty of grinding off the material that was making it difficult to remove. My swivel socket will fit nicely with an impact gun now.
Awesome man! Appreciate all your great videos and taking the time to share your professional trade with us.
+JayCrash450 Thank you for kind words.
Good beles your working
I’ve done the Allison level check on fire engines and it freaked out my officer. When you got to raise the cab on a fire truck with a ladder it takes a lot of time to secure all the gear, pull it onto the pad outside, set the outriggers raise the ladder then cab... talk about a pain. Work smarter!
Excellent video. Exactly the technical info I was looking for. Thanks.
Epic. Loving all these videos. A great help to refining my skills!
Hey Adept, love your videos! They have been super helpful to me since purchasing a 2003 Thomas Saf T Liner ER school bus that I'm converting into a RV.
I have some questions in regarding this video and my bus. I took my bus for a drive the other day and noticed it shifting hard from 1st to second and second to third. So when I got home I checked the transmission district and the trans fluid was WAY over the Hot max fill line. Being worried that my transmission was overfill I drained the entire thing and not knowing how much it needed. I went on UA-cam and found this video. I have a MD3060 6 speed automatic push button trans and a 3126E Cat engine with a 4" sump. When I drained the trans I drained about 4.5 gallons. I then put in new filters put the plug back in and starting filling it up again. I put in 4 gallons of trans fluid in and checked it. The reading on the dipstick was about a half inch above the Hot max level. I know you said 19 quarts 4.75 gal for a 4" sump. I got 4 gallons in there now why is my fluid level higher than it should be? The dip stick appears to be the right one for the transmission. It looks to be the proper length compared to the tube when laid beside it. Should I put in the other 3 quarts fir the 19 total? Or should I not since the stick is showing it over filled? Your expert thoughts on this would be much appreciated! Thanks!
Great Video. Don't forget to reset your oil life counter.
Thanks. Best video and explanation I have seen for this service. Excellent!
B500 has been a work horse for a long time. Now, the ZF Astronic is the box of rocks from hell.
Good video. Thank you. Purchasing a '95 Monaco motorhome with Cummins 8.3L & Allison MD3040. Going to change fluid and filters after I take possesion.
sweet. got detroit diesel with the alison auto behind it. been sitting since 1995. runs great going to do a full service on the trans asap
Really enjoy all the videos,,, and yes the cat ones Forsure! As our shop is getting into those engines,your info is a big help
Yo Ape. Thanks for sharing. Thats a great gem with the auto level check. Keep up the great content. Cheers
well done video . I've seen people use air ratchets on the filter bolts and strip them just from spinning them to fast . when you do the only fix is to drop the sump and valve body , bolt on a guide and drill and helicoil the holes . needless to say only specialty shops have the guide (expensive).
I work on class 7 trash trucks and there is always some youngster who thinks he can do it faster .
it's a pain in the butt but I always run them up by hand , but when you service them twice a year it kinda makes sense to be a little extra cautious .
I use white grease to hold the gasket in place
Our shop has the template repair kit to heli cool the bolts.
asavage1576 that works if your shop is clean enough and you have the time to drop the valve body. I've never been in that situation
+Cbmech it's a pain in the butt. Better idea is properly torque the bolts lol. I've seen one with some of the holes so damaged and wallered we ended up replacing the trans.
I've never had a problem but I've seen the results from 2 know it all kids out of one of the schools that think they have a faster way 😃.
when I was an apprentice I had an old timer tell me a good mechanic is a lazy sob , you look for the easiest way to do it right the first time . the right way can be a bitch but you don't have to do it again . I've done my best to live by that ever since . I hate come backs and do overs
Dude, my 2008 Tiffin thanks you profusely!
Thanks for an awesome channel, i have Been a mechanic for 25 years but never specializing in diesels. A few years back I have purchased an used 2003 RV on a f650 chassis with a 3126 and Alison gearbox. Your channel has helped me on several occasions With just info that I needed to learn how to work on it and keep this ol girl on the road. I have used this video to see if I could check the oil level. It seems that this is an older single digit display that when I press the upshift and downshift arrows at the same time to check oil level all I get is a “d” “-“ “1” flashing I can’t seem to find any info on the internet can you shed any light on this? Thanks and keep up the good work!!
Thank you. Now I know what filters and (how much) fluid I need for my 3000. Have you ever seen a rusty dipstick? Im getting a fluid test right now to see if I have coolant or water in it. Fluid is red, but hazy.
Thanks for the info & update, GOD BLESS YOUR BONES....
Please, why Allison transmission coolant hose connected to the cooler keep bursting hose? On a Mack Truck
How often this should be done? Miles/time?
I really enjoy your videos on Diesels. I just bought a 02 Dutch Star with Cat 330 HP with Allison trans. I asked the dealer to have the trans serviced , and they took it to Freightliner in Chandler Arizona. They charged me $675.oo for a service on the Trans.
When i got the coach home i looked at the transmission and the filter bolts had not been removed. I called Freightliner and they said another filter was changed on the transmission, are there other ones ??
I am only aware of the two that you show in the video...
Are they taking me for a ride .
The coach has 117000 on it , so i wanted to make sure the trans was serviced.
Thanks for all the great Videos , i watch all of them... !!!
Jess R same thing happened to me.
I have a question for you. Do I need to be perfectly flat when I do this? Can this be done in the cold lets say 28F-38F? Should I warm it up first? Can I warm it up just by idling the engine or do I need to drive it? Thanks for the great videos you have been a lot of help!
I've done quite a few of these as well, but with not nearly the amount of steps.
My LMTV is Allison, so right on, and thank you!
Hi I have 1997 M10780 it has a Cat 3116 engine with a md3070 in it my drive shaft is in the way if this big filter. Thank you for showing us this.
This video is outstanding.
what happen if I only put 6 quarts, and go D, R for 8 foots twice ? Does that make torque converter seals burn out ?
Great video, but the thing missing is "What kind of transmission fluid do I add" - I'm pretty sure somewhere I read it has to be the "Transync" (or some kind of synthetic fluid) versus regular Dexron type? I can't find my manual right now, but I don't want to add the wrong fluid. Do you know what I'm talking about?
I have a 2008 Safari Cheetah motorhome with an Allison transmission. Your video on checking the fluid level is what I needed. I'm not sure where the fluid intake is for the vehicle. Can you explain where it's at? Thanks
thanks for the video, changed oil and filters with no probs! didn't solve my harsh shifting problem though :(
+Ilya Sebentsov Sorry it didn't fix it. At least you know how to service the transmission though.
How often we should service the automatic transmission?
How do i differntiatw what allison i have? Its in a 1998 holiday rambler endeavor motorhome. 24 valve cummins pusher, 6 speed allison, freightliner chassis. It looks similar to the on you serviced in the video. Ut is definitely the shallower version. Has a part nimber cadt into it of 29503270. Do you know its change capacity and filter part numbers?
Do 4000 series Allisons use the same amount of fluid as the 3000 series?
Approximately how much would a service on an Allison transmission like this cost(ball park). I have a 39' 2003 Newmar Dutchstar Diesel pusher with a Cat 3126 and Allison(I believe it's a 3000 series) on a freight liner XC chassis with 48000 miles. I really appreciate you taking the time to post these videos and share your knowledge. I only wish I lived near your shop so I could get you to work on it when needed. Thanks!
+richard leitner A transmission service by itself would be about 2-3 hours, if done with an engine service they would probably just charge 2 hours for the transmission service. The fluid is pretty expensive at about $200 for the 5 gallon bucket of transyn and the filters are about 40 dollars. So you are looking at the $500-$600 dollar range for a service at a shop like ours. You can do it yourself for a lot less of course, but it is a messy job.
Ur the best adept
I have a 2012 Freightliner Business class M2 8.3 cummins with an Allison transmission. I have a check trans light that has come on 3 times after the filter and oil change has been done. What do you think my problem is? Do you think i need a new trans?
Awesome vid. Thanks so much
Can you apply these instructions on a 2003 Allison its connected to 5.9L Diesel 6I Cummins automatic ? It has 270K miles and no history booklet of service, everyone I ask says don’t do it… please advice or recommend course of action it sits on a MT55 Freightliner frame stepvan…
stupid question. Where is the fill for the new transmission fluid?
If I wanted to use a generic brand fluid, in my 2001 GMC Topkick C6500 with an Allison AT545, what would I use? Dexron (what number) synth or Dino? Thanks.
Great vid as always. Thanks for the help brother.
Thanks man. I needed this.
Good video.
Thank you for your videos.
I have a 2011 international 4300 maxforce 10 automatic transmission and it keeps coming up with spn2003 fmi:31 it says check transmission
Check transmission oil filter. A friend of mine said that I shouldn't change the filter because it will break the transmission .my truck still runs good what do you recommend ?
What model & years transmission? Allison 3,000? Mine has a metal pan with external filter.
Your videos are really helpful
Great video
Thnkd
Would this be the same procedure as the 3200 & 3200TC trans?
I run school buses and service them myself...but lately I have an international bus showing on the dsah “check trans” what could be possible cause ....bus got sluggish or feel it not shifting..I need help
I have a question, I have an International 4400 ....year 2002 with a MD 3060 Alisson transmission and its been working fine but just starting to leak from the oil pan ...I already got the gaskets, oil, filters kit... but I don't know how much do I need to tight the oil pan bolts...what's the pressure for the bolts... for the filters its between 38/45 but for the oil pan can you let me know I don't want to damage the transmission...
Thank you.
Hello my friend, I have an Allison Transmission that has coolant mixing with the transmission fluid. When I check the transmission fluid I see milky like fluid. What should I do to fix the problem? Also I had a coolant problem which got fixed after that the mechanic fixed the he put some radiator flush in my radiator to flush out the old fluid. So do I need a new radaitor
Awesome gonna try to do my RV .
I love your videos . thanks
What is the part number for the o-ring and gasket kit? I have plenty filter elements on shelves, but neither gaskets nor O-rings for them.
Soooo cute how he pronounces filters with a letter D sound. 'Filder'
Good afternoon, how are the commands for the reset? Are they to restore the forecast of the transmission?
I want to install a trans temp gadge, I see a plug/bolt in your video along side the filter area.. is that a good place or where who you recommend?
Have you ever had one that over heats while sitting in gear. I have a cement mixer that over heats on pours at low speeds. Mainly in reverse. Any allison gurus out there you can refer me too
I have an Allison World Transmission in my '96 Safara Serengeti motorhome...would the procedure be similar?
Hello. I have a 4500 rds and it has a very hard shift from 1st to 2nd also down from 2nd to 1st would changing the oil filter help or what can you recommenced.
Henry Trujillo I have encountered the same problem what I notice when I did not plug the truck in the shift was harsher right away when left unplug took awhile before starting to upshift and gear down poorly so I plan to change the fluid and filters....just might work for You also....will let You know my outcome.
Can you remove the filters without changing the fluid?
You'll loose a bit just filter change, ,. It takes alot of ATF if drain completely,
great video, thanks
Is a better to get automatic or standard transmission trucks ?
Are the 2in and 4in sub the same filters?
can you say filter right?
Sweet.... Do these quiet often...🆗👍
How much fluid is needed for an Allison 2400series sn6310029330?
Good job, Sr. 👍😎
+JIGA BACHI Thank you.
Adept Ape your gonna reach 10k in no time man.
Ch4pterz Inc I hope so, I check the subscriber count all the time and it keeps climbing.
Adept Ape
I've told a couple of people about you but don't know if they signed up
I have a 2005 475 Accert that will not run up to proper temperature since the cold weather has set it. Runs at 160° driving and will climb to 175° when parked until it starts to cool down at idle. Oil temp only runs up to 120°.
My fuel mileage has dropped significantly.
In warmer weather the temps run closer to where they should be.
I have installed 185° thermostats, replaced the fan hub and tried a winter front with no change.
fan runs good, I even replace oil cooler bypass valve, I thought something happened with,
Any ideas?
thanks.
+Shalva Kipshidze Hey sure we can try to figure this out. So basic things first, are you sure the temp sensor is reading right? Usually there is a dash mounted gauge, but the ECM also pulls from its own sensor. You should compare to the two and see if they are reading right. You already replaced the thermostats and that is the usually cause, so we can guess that isn't the problem. Check those sensors first.
OKAY I will, thanks
Thank you!
How can I fix the stinky and white smell out of the Allison automatic transmission??????😞😎
I have a Alison md3560p it will not go in to gear can anyone pleas help me
I bet those filters aren't cheap
What type of transmission fluid do you use?
Do the filter plates only fit the correct way when all the bolts line up regardless of which side of the transmission they are put on?
+Steven Brick The bolt pattern is not even so yes the plate will only fit one way.
Adept Ape Thank you. My MD3060 shifts better than new now with AMSOIL Torque-Drive and Donaldson filters... 😉
+Steven Brick Maintenance is always better than repairs.
Great video. What are the service intervals that Allison recommends? I purchased a Freightliner used and it didn't come with a manual.
+Matthew Devine I went to the Allison website and they have calculator on their website based on a lot of variables, I would recommend checking it out based on how the truck is used, but about 25,000 miles, 500 hours, or two years seems to the general recommendation based on the calculator.
Adept Ape there biggest variable is wether your running there approved synthetic oil
the early Trans didn't use synthetic
Cuanto devo de cobrar por un servicio de esta transmisión
FILDER! AH, its driving me nuts lol. FILTER BROTHER "FILTER" LOL. love your videos though.
the fluid amounts do not include cooler hoses or cooler, just saying.
Were the smallest o rings for the drain plug?
+Che Kelley Yes they are, dangit, I forgot to mention that.
Adept Ape no biggie! Make people ask questions so we don't get lazy! Lol.
Why do you say filter like that?
You are awesome
OEM filters...?
+Gregory A. Parsons Those are Donaldson's actually, OEM is usually best though we have to use what we have at the shop.
Gregory A. Parsons we run Baldwin in garbage trucks with no issues I would prefer Donaldson if not OEM though
Walker Vaillancourt Donaldson & Wix are made in the same joint venture plant. Money says they’re producing Detroit’s OE filters. Only so many manufacturers would be willing to build a specialized wire-backed synthetic media filter.
filder housing! 🤣where are u? nebraska? lol
in the minute 7:45
4:50 wellllll imgine only takign two preliminary measures for soemthing as intense as a leak from the fillter HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH unreal
Had a nightmare with those filter bolts stripping. Had over 3. Someone must have tightened those up with a 3/4 impact lol
+hddm3 That would totally ruin your day. I've had the drain plugs break in half trying to remove them, but never the bolts.
you can strip them with a healthy 3/8 air ratchet
Allison recommends the you only use hand tools to tighten the filter cover bolts and then torque them of course. The bolts thread into the main case of the transmission. If the holes get stripped you have drop the sump, which is actually the control body of the transmission and Kent Moore makes a tool kit to drill out the holes and install a threaded insert into the hole.
the cheap skates at Allison need to just cast the case with steel inserts
Cbmech they do now and any rebuilt tranny that came from a really good remanufacture will also make that repair if it's an old style threaded aluminum hole
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+Timothy Nichols AdeptApe@yahoo.com I put it in the video description.
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U traitor!. Real men only work on CAT and Cummins!
Real men drive Detroits dude