In a previous video where the mechanic of revealing a random log in the meetings was newly added Kaif didn’t know it existed and he removed his own name from the log as a personoid and when it was revealed his name was also on there he was killed. This exact scenario happened before and it was said that removing your name from the log is a personoid thing to do. Glen was 100 % right in his logic. But it’s still funny no one listened to him.
Lobby log and mid level logs significantly different though isnt it haha You guys see this too much in black and white, if you constantly see me lie regardless of my role, killing me makes less sense especially if i didnt appear on any logs Glen was right i was a personoid, but in a later game they kill me as a resident on that exact same reasoning
@@Kaiffu This just makes less sense. The idea of "if I act suspicious even when I'm innocent then when I'm a personoid they will not suspect me when I do suspicious things" sounds like it doesn't pan out. Like you gonna sneak around the lethal injectors as a resident and get voted out and hope they develop the bad habit of not voting out someone doing personoid things. It is a road that can only end in sadness. If it doesn't work you end up thinking "as long as I'm consistently untrustworthy they won't vote me out" and you get voted out as a personoid. If it does work then people you play with no longer look at evidence of suspicion cause so and so might just be putting on an act as a resident to throw us off in future personoid games. It's just kinda like throwing in all honesty. In a game where innocents are are benefitted by factual information to be innocent and try to include deceptions in your play to throw them through a loop seems weird to me but if you find it works keep it up I guess. Maybe the real problem was even before the log lies. Hopefully this will bolster a distrust of the event of a person running up and saying "I found a log and we should kill x person cause of it". Sometimes with little to no verification people hop on that murder train.
Right but taking yourself off a log and comparing it to sneaking around lethal injectors is... a stretch haha This makes sense to me because I already do it as a resident, if I see myself on a log with two others, I go hard on killing at least the most suss one, sometimes I say I'm on it, sometimes I don't. It only seems to be a problem now because I started doing it as a Personoid too and Glen complained about it. This happened before when Glen complained about us not killing both in 50/50s And it happened again when Glen complained about leaving people alive when people should suicide leaving only the confirmed alive. I've done this for ages, why is this suddenly a problem? :P
Curious to know if anyone thinks having a progressive system for the logs would be a good idea. The first log, no matter what level (including the last one), players opens is always the four people and as you collect logs, the more specific they get. So that way, you don't get one that is two players on the same faction as the first or second log. Rather, it is one of the last logs you can get. Also want to see how to encourage more personoid wind without going murder hobo (encouraging deception or even risky kills).
(Edit: The video timestamps have been fixed :D noice Kaif) Time to do the job where my payment is content to watch. I appreciate your vids Kaif! Intro: 0:01 Game 1 (Resident) 2:56 Game 2 (Resident) 23:02 Game 3 (Resident) 39:40 Game 4 (Personoid) 52:53 Game 5 (Resident) 1:08:28 Game 6 (Personoid) 1:28:53 Game 7 (Resident) 1:41:07 Game 8 (Personoid) 1:57:22 Game 9 (Resident) 2:07:24 Game 10 (Resident) 2:19:17 Game 11 (Resident) 2:35:40 Game 12 (Resident) 2:45:26 Game 13 (Personoid) 3:03:33 Seems like they need to fix the lobby system a bit, seen the invite screen and the BRB screen a bunch skipping through to get these timestamps. Good that the devs actually update this game a bunch though.
What did Stan do this ti .... is it the "SSD" problem again? ... I had a feeling he was causing the problem maliciously. As I said in the most recent TCotM video, when he isn't being a menace to his team with his "judgement calls," he is being a deliberate menace.
@@caboose.20 Its the consequence of doing it at all. Whether he's crew or personoid, its a *very* big lie so that Kaif avoids a comparatively minor consequence (being sus'd on). Its a bad tactic as a resident unless Kaif has really good evidence of who is actually the personoid on the list, because all it does is save yourself at best and make yourself look *extremely* suspicious at worst, and it cost Kaif just as much as the rest of them. Glen is right to do it because either Kaif was a Personoid again *or* he's a resident doing something purely to save his own skin and that hurts the teams chances of winning in the long run if his log gets revealed. They've killed Stan plenty of times for too many bad judgement calls; this is a habit Kaif has for this game that easily backfires if his log gets revealed as a Resident; and I'd argue its on the same level as a Stan Judgement call since the most obvious conclusion is that *he's the personoid" when his log does come up; which you know, means one less resident to fight the Personoids because of course the smart thing to do when caught in that big a lie is to kill the suspected Personoid.
@@EpicAsian-pj8zr Kaif is obviously smart and good at most games; but there are times he makes bad plays and will never own up to them, which is frustrating because SR absolutely has killed people off for making bad plays in the past in this game and others, I really don't see how this is any different. Which isn't to say his misplays aren't *hilarious* when they backfire, so hey I can't really complain because its good content for us either way.
@Kaif, quick question man, I get that games on SSD's run quicker sure, but whats that got to do with the stream? Even if your game is on the hard drive, it will still run the same (for the viewers on the stream) after it has loaded right? Other then a few seconds delay that the gamer/streamer will get, there will be no difference in the game nor the stream no? Thoughts?
I remember him mentioning that the game would update faster, and I also remember him mentioning in WoW that the games loading screens were like 30 seconds for SSD vice 2-3 minutes for hard drive, so maybe it's just the delay for the viewers?
From my perspective. He is a streamer and specifically a streamer who plays games for a living. With SSD he would load games quicker which result in more gameplay and thus more screen time. Him having it on his HDD results in longer loading screens and start up times. He has enough money to actually buy SSDs which aren't terribly anymore (unlike GPUs). They go for like 100 euro's per TB. Not saying that he shouldn't get a HDD at all since you can much more storage for the same price but he should put things that he wants to start/load quite quickly such as (online multiplayer) games on his SSD. This is pretty much the scenario: Everyone is done and ready to go but they can't since they are still waiting on Stan. It doesn't help if he makes bad excuses for it such as "I don't know how to do it" and "I am really bad at looking things up" (For reference it was in the propnight vod). I think you would rather play the game than constantly with every game have to wait for that one friend who is loading slower with a simple solution he could solve himself by actually putting games on his current SSD or buying a new one which isn't that expensive or limited. It isn't something hard or expensive to do such as trying to upgrade your GPU or CPU which is a lot more expensive or trying to call your ISP trying to fix your internet speed/stability and discovering you are just unlucky because of your position of your house.
I mean Kaif’s right in that taking your name off a 3 person log like that makes sense since obviously you know you’re innocent Cant say doubling down and responding “yeah it’s one of those rare 2 person logs” is the right move tho that’s just lying about the log, I like the logic in taking your name off but if they pressed further and specifically ask if you took your name off why lie 🤷♂️
It's good at catching killers too. 2:42:00, Ben and Glen go in hard trying to get me instead. Daz immediately clocked on that they were caught, Sazar just wanted a revenge kill :P
It would be nice if personoids could sabatoge the log in a way that it is guaranteed to not show up if someone picks it up. Would always cast doubts on people's minds if a person is lying or not. Downright destroying them doesn't seem as fun.
I think a main reason nobody cared about your lie. Was because Glen was already Omega tilted and silent, only to argue about the log after it was revealed you lied. Making his argument seem a lot less valid just cause he might be getting revenge
Great Vod Kaif, kee up the great content! Also who tf disliked the Vod, there is just 1 dislike sitting there while writing this comment, what wanker did that XD
Kaif I take your strategy as advice never act in first log... also take myself off logs (i am playing on ps5 but I love the game no matter the platform... already had my first game and I was personoid... though my plan to hell as randoms killed for no reason)
I’m surprised that they haven’t figured out that since personoids don’t need Oxygen they can just follow around suspicious players and then call them out for not using oxygen
Oxygen is no longer specific to player; its global. A personoid can deflect suspicion by just using whatever oxygen bottles they have to fill up global oxygen and look normal.
I really like this game but I wish there was no round 1 and it went straight to round 2... Unless someone wants to be extra cheesy during round 1, nothing ever happens and I always feel like skipping that part during the vod watching....
@@Kaiffu Like you said, in certain situations where you find 1 culprit in the 2 that weren't in the first log, it has some value. With that said, a rework like you mentioned to either make the first floor more important or to remove it while making the 2nd floor take longer by adding a 4th keycard maybe would be more interesting to watch already. I do enjoy the occasional hide in the bush play tho xD just feels like first floor only has interesting things to watch once every 5-6 games ahah Anyway, keep it up with your stream, I enjoy watching First Class trouble a lot after that first floor ahah
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I love that it took less than a minute for Stan’s SSD to come into mention. Glorious
Literally 30 seconds to
Stan's Sexual Disease
...Should we make a counter for time the crew mentions Stan doesn't have an SSD...may make it to the thousands by next year lol.
@@ifrit1937 then someone makes a compilation video about all the times it's mentioned. And sams rant
1:07:23 I love how it looks like Daz's character is moving to what he's saying.
Look and listen to 1:07:26 - 1:07:40 Daz's hand gestures matched with what he was saying.
Someone else that goes by the name of Isaac has already pointed this out a week ago and is one of the top five comments.
In a previous video where the mechanic of revealing a random log in the meetings was newly added Kaif didn’t know it existed and he removed his own name from the log as a personoid and when it was revealed his name was also on there he was killed. This exact scenario happened before and it was said that removing your name from the log is a personoid thing to do. Glen was 100 % right in his logic.
But it’s still funny no one listened to him.
Lobby log and mid level logs significantly different though isnt it haha
You guys see this too much in black and white, if you constantly see me lie regardless of my role, killing me makes less sense especially if i didnt appear on any logs
Glen was right i was a personoid, but in a later game they kill me as a resident on that exact same reasoning
@@Kaiffu This just makes less sense. The idea of "if I act suspicious even when I'm innocent then when I'm a personoid they will not suspect me when I do suspicious things" sounds like it doesn't pan out. Like you gonna sneak around the lethal injectors as a resident and get voted out and hope they develop the bad habit of not voting out someone doing personoid things. It is a road that can only end in sadness. If it doesn't work you end up thinking "as long as I'm consistently untrustworthy they won't vote me out" and you get voted out as a personoid. If it does work then people you play with no longer look at evidence of suspicion cause so and so might just be putting on an act as a resident to throw us off in future personoid games.
It's just kinda like throwing in all honesty. In a game where innocents are are benefitted by factual information to be innocent and try to include deceptions in your play to throw them through a loop seems weird to me but if you find it works keep it up I guess.
Maybe the real problem was even before the log lies. Hopefully this will bolster a distrust of the event of a person running up and saying "I found a log and we should kill x person cause of it". Sometimes with little to no verification people hop on that murder train.
Right but taking yourself off a log and comparing it to sneaking around lethal injectors is... a stretch haha
This makes sense to me because I already do it as a resident, if I see myself on a log with two others, I go hard on killing at least the most suss one, sometimes I say I'm on it, sometimes I don't. It only seems to be a problem now because I started doing it as a Personoid too and Glen complained about it.
This happened before when Glen complained about us not killing both in 50/50s
And it happened again when Glen complained about leaving people alive when people should suicide leaving only the confirmed alive.
I've done this for ages, why is this suddenly a problem? :P
@@Kaiffu nah
I mean its SR so exepct the unexpected They do lots of stupid things in a messing around manner, Even if Glen was right it really didn't matter.
Curious to know if anyone thinks having a progressive system for the logs would be a good idea. The first log, no matter what level (including the last one), players opens is always the four people and as you collect logs, the more specific they get. So that way, you don't get one that is two players on the same faction as the first or second log. Rather, it is one of the last logs you can get.
Also want to see how to encourage more personoid wind without going murder hobo (encouraging deception or even risky kills).
I think that's a good idea, would be a way to push residents to find logs and extend the main level.
And force personoids to try and sabotage them
(Edit: The video timestamps have been fixed :D noice Kaif)
Time to do the job where my payment is content to watch. I appreciate your vids Kaif!
Intro: 0:01
Game 1 (Resident) 2:56
Game 2 (Resident) 23:02
Game 3 (Resident) 39:40
Game 4 (Personoid) 52:53
Game 5 (Resident) 1:08:28
Game 6 (Personoid) 1:28:53
Game 7 (Resident) 1:41:07
Game 8 (Personoid) 1:57:22
Game 9 (Resident) 2:07:24
Game 10 (Resident) 2:19:17
Game 11 (Resident) 2:35:40
Game 12 (Resident) 2:45:26
Game 13 (Personoid) 3:03:33
Seems like they need to fix the lobby system a bit, seen the invite screen and the BRB screen a bunch skipping through to get these timestamps. Good that the devs actually update this game a bunch though.
At 21:40 When Stan is saying he was just trying to help his in-game self starts moving oddly intune with his tone.
Daz did also. I don’t remember when but I’m I believe it’s on Kaif shorts. It’s at 1:07:23
2:33:15 - 30 seconds of pure glory
Stan and his ssd this will be a new meme
Always has been.
1:07:22 perfect timing for Daz and his character
@@OldCasimir good for him
everytime i see that Kaif picture i can't help but just stare at it, It's wonderful in a weird way
i screen shoot it then crop it so that i could use it.....
Stan when people tell him to put his games on a ssd *Windows blue screen* stan:" wait what?"
Does stan have this on his SSD? Probably not :D
YOOOO HELL YEAH! I wish I noticed this was uploaded sooner, time for some fun!
Fuck sake, Kaif's pfp is fucking hilarious XD
What did Stan do this ti .... is it the "SSD" problem again?
... I had a feeling he was causing the problem maliciously. As I said in the most recent TCotM video, when he isn't being a menace to his team with his "judgement calls," he is being a deliberate menace.
kaif channel: boring
kaiffu channel: funni
Kaif running in a dress is godly
5:21 literally me as 4 years old
Vod squad vod squad, when being on time isn’t pog
Dog shit is also the smell of will and his dogs friendship
I wonder how long Kaif takes to choose his outfits
Pog.
congrats u are first
@@juanf2527 yes
Worst part is I was the first to view the video (I got a screenshot to show) but didn't notice for an hour so ya that was a missed opportunity
@@Watcherxacol I can't finish a 3 hour video in 1 day
I usually play the vods as background noise when I'm working, but I tuned in to actually watch around 1:25:00... Just... WTF Stan
Lie by omission is still a lie, obviously kaif was bad, so lying is definitely fine, but glen was 100% right
Yeah but that also backfired later
It doesn't matter, because Kaif does it as crew anyway. And Glen should've known that, too.
@@caboose.20 Its the consequence of doing it at all. Whether he's crew or personoid, its a *very* big lie so that Kaif avoids a comparatively minor consequence (being sus'd on). Its a bad tactic as a resident unless Kaif has really good evidence of who is actually the personoid on the list, because all it does is save yourself at best and make yourself look *extremely* suspicious at worst, and it cost Kaif just as much as the rest of them.
Glen is right to do it because either Kaif was a Personoid again *or* he's a resident doing something purely to save his own skin and that hurts the teams chances of winning in the long run if his log gets revealed. They've killed Stan plenty of times for too many bad judgement calls; this is a habit Kaif has for this game that easily backfires if his log gets revealed as a Resident; and I'd argue its on the same level as a Stan Judgement call since the most obvious conclusion is that *he's the personoid" when his log does come up; which you know, means one less resident to fight the Personoids because of course the smart thing to do when caught in that big a lie is to kill the suspected Personoid.
@@Vaprous Ty, this is what I was thinking but you are much better with words
@@EpicAsian-pj8zr Kaif is obviously smart and good at most games; but there are times he makes bad plays and will never own up to them, which is frustrating because SR absolutely has killed people off for making bad plays in the past in this game and others, I really don't see how this is any different.
Which isn't to say his misplays aren't *hilarious* when they backfire, so hey I can't really complain because its good content for us either way.
I was not ready for that profile picture when he brought all the names up to up/downvote people
Stan looks like he's planning something.
'you know what they say: kar-'
-sazar 2021
@Kaif, quick question man, I get that games on SSD's run quicker sure, but whats that got to do with the stream?
Even if your game is on the hard drive, it will still run the same (for the viewers on the stream) after it has loaded right? Other then a few seconds delay that the gamer/streamer will get, there will be no difference in the game nor the stream no? Thoughts?
I remember him mentioning that the game would update faster, and I also remember him mentioning in WoW that the games loading screens were like 30 seconds for SSD vice 2-3 minutes for hard drive, so maybe it's just the delay for the viewers?
From my perspective. He is a streamer and specifically a streamer who plays games for a living. With SSD he would load games quicker which result in more gameplay and thus more screen time. Him having it on his HDD results in longer loading screens and start up times. He has enough money to actually buy SSDs which aren't terribly anymore (unlike GPUs). They go for like 100 euro's per TB. Not saying that he shouldn't get a HDD at all since you can much more storage for the same price but he should put things that he wants to start/load quite quickly such as (online multiplayer) games on his SSD.
This is pretty much the scenario: Everyone is done and ready to go but they can't since they are still waiting on Stan. It doesn't help if he makes bad excuses for it such as "I don't know how to do it" and "I am really bad at looking things up" (For reference it was in the propnight vod). I think you would rather play the game than constantly with every game have to wait for that one friend who is loading slower with a simple solution he could solve himself by actually putting games on his current SSD or buying a new one which isn't that expensive or limited. It isn't something hard or expensive to do such as trying to upgrade your GPU or CPU which is a lot more expensive or trying to call your ISP trying to fix your internet speed/stability and discovering you are just unlucky because of your position of your house.
It has no effect on his stream. Its the fact his job is entirely reliant on pcs
@@Kaiffu Ahh... okay, thats a totally fair point. Thanks for clarifying mate, have a nice one!
I mean Kaif’s right in that taking your name off a 3 person log like that makes sense since obviously you know you’re innocent
Cant say doubling down and responding “yeah it’s one of those rare 2 person logs” is the right move tho that’s just lying about the log, I like the logic in taking your name off but if they pressed further and specifically ask if you took your name off why lie 🤷♂️
Also the others playing the game without Kaif @2:50:00 is hilarious everyone runs around like chickens with their heads cut off
It's good at catching killers too. 2:42:00, Ben and Glen go in hard trying to get me instead.
Daz immediately clocked on that they were caught, Sazar just wanted a revenge kill :P
Game 9 is named personoid when kaif is good boi.
6:30 glorious
It would be nice if personoids could sabatoge the log in a way that it is guaranteed to not show up if someone picks it up. Would always cast doubts on people's minds if a person is lying or not. Downright destroying them doesn't seem as fun.
I remember someone else suggesting that it should put false information. Put the wrong names. Would be cool especially with the first log.
I think a main reason nobody cared about your lie. Was because Glen was already Omega tilted and silent, only to argue about the log after it was revealed you lied. Making his argument seem a lot less valid just cause he might be getting revenge
Glen trolling recently
2:33:33 - 2:33:41
Just posting this comment so I can save this clip later
Hey Kaif, with this game coming for free next month for PS Plus users. Would you recommend playing it on console or will it be better on pc?
Seriously, for Halloween, CodeNames
2:19:17 The chapter says Personoid when he's a resident
hello, kaif. do not worry about the salt, it gives a magnificent sparkle to your cool shirt. or... dress. i suppose.
How did kaif did that face like with what app? Pls Tell me
Is the photo used for the cover of the video supposed to be a reference to Edd from EddsWorld?
Great Vod Kaif, kee up the great content! Also who tf disliked the Vod, there is just 1 dislike sitting there while writing this comment, what wanker did that XD
Kaif, im upset, it's not "Bushrat" it's "Bushwookie". Gawd :P
A first dose of salt first thing in the night. Lovely.
wow. Not even half a minute in and there's a Stan SSD jab. This is gonna be a good one (JK a lot of the vods are good)
Yet another time while playing the game Stan dosent have the game on his SSD.
first hour crew :D
I can agree with daz that this game is more fun than among us. There's a lot of stuff that makes this game more chaos than among us
Too funny.
Sooo Kaiffu *^ When is the lore video for New world.
Edit : Just asking, Also happy birthday.
Kaif I take your strategy as advice never act in first log... also take myself off logs (i am playing on ps5 but I love the game no matter the platform... already had my first game and I was personoid... though my plan to hell as randoms killed for no reason)
I plan to do better also personoid quarters is only bad when you have a component group and component personoids
Did Stan finally figure out his SSD?
Probably not
Hi kiffe, how are you?
"right I'm in a dress and sazar is trying to get my number" 🤣
Enjoy your personanode were it was you and Stan and stand successfully got caught in my school account you shouldn't have sabotage
Stans licking a window. Seems normal for him ngl
15th like. i feel special.
Hello
I'm number one 1👆
Dead by dbd
pg
I’m surprised that they haven’t figured out that since personoids don’t need Oxygen they can just follow around suspicious players and then call them out for not using oxygen
Oxygen is no longer specific to player; its global. A personoid can deflect suspicion by just using whatever oxygen bottles they have to fill up global oxygen and look normal.
I really like this game but I wish there was no round 1 and it went straight to round 2... Unless someone wants to be extra cheesy during round 1, nothing ever happens and I always feel like skipping that part during the vod watching....
Yeah it turns out that first log can be important sometimes
Perhaps the lobby level just needs a rework
@@Kaiffu Like you said, in certain situations where you find 1 culprit in the 2 that weren't in the first log, it has some value. With that said, a rework like you mentioned to either make the first floor more important or to remove it while making the 2nd floor take longer by adding a 4th keycard maybe would be more interesting to watch already.
I do enjoy the occasional hide in the bush play tho xD just feels like first floor only has interesting things to watch once every 5-6 games ahah
Anyway, keep it up with your stream, I enjoy watching First Class trouble a lot after that first floor ahah
Yeah lobby level is essentially an area where you turn your brain off haha
not even 30 seconds and stan not using his SSD is already mentioned again xD
Stan assaulted a woman? Based
23:00 Love to hear that you guys are playing FFXIV, but never play an MMO like that garbage fire WoW, especially ff14