what i've read is that this might make it look the same, it still isnt, since the recording in the log profile happens in camera on sensor level before being compressed into the different containers (mov, mp4, etc). So you wont get 100% the same. If its really noticable, especially if youre not a pro colorist, is debatable
Great video - as always... Thank you for all that you do. QUESTION: How can I let LUMIX know that removing the "Multiple Exposure" feature from the S5 series and the New Micro 4/3 bodies, was a very bad idea. Where is the best place to submit feedback directly to LUMIX?
I agree Arri log is mainly fun for those who can't afford Arri. It doesn't give more dynamic range from what I saw in someone else's video Arri log had more shadow details and colors looked more punchy, where as vlog had less shadow details but more highlights and seemed flatter. Because the sky was exposed to be blown out for both you can't see difference in the highlights. I also think the target audience for this camera are not colorists and would use it as you did. Because the camera doesn't film in Braw most aren't going to use Divinci to grade. I think both BM & Panasonic don't want to compete directly. Recent BM cameras don't off ProRes so it make sense no Braw on Panasonic.
Hi... Great video....I personally always convert with cinematch any log footage to arri log C (P6K,P4K,GH5,5s,S5 ) it looks always the best...imho did you try to put arri log c on your GH6? And make a GH6 VS GH7 video?
I am thinking about it! But honestly if you just convert your footage VLOG is more than powerful. ARRI is a nice starting base and ignores a step but unless you are actually shooting with ARRI cameras most people don’t need this upgrade unless they want it
That is kinda what I thought too. But I try to spend the same amount of time on both clips and make them look as close as possible with little work. Most of the corrections and grades are about the exact same
Premiere user, but I don't know what the "correct" Arri log approach is. Until now, I thought the approach would be the same as with the other log profiles. Anyway, for $200, without any difference in dynamic range, I don't think it's worth it unless the GH7 is used by a professional team, using arri log cameras.
Exactly! For people who shoot with ARRI this will be great, but overall technically it should be a "better overall color profile" but you can get the same image with color corrections on VLOG
Little bit strange, how can a lumix canera replace a 30 k thousand Canera? I heard a lot like, is the ssme? So if were the same why soneone is going to buy an Arri if can have tjis cheaper one?
This isn't meant to replace the ARRI camera, now lets just say if all the specs, and features of this camera makes it into a future box-style full-frame camera from lumix with ARRI log well then yeah this can probably get you you pretty close to the same look and style on that camera
lol ok I make professional TV commercials with multiple of these cameras, run a video production company, and travel all around to produce social media commercials 😂 plus I am 24 which for sure is "young" but I got the credit behind me too
Calling Arrilog the industry standard is just pure marketing hype brother. There is no such thing as indistry standard log gamma. This profile was specifically made to be a b or c-cam for the arri cameras, nothing more. VLog will do just aswell if not even better. The amount of bull spread by camera companies today is astonishing. The biggest one being "ISO 12800".
@@MatthewDangyou Yes like you said Arri as a brand is the industry standard, but not LogC which is a gamma curve. GH7 is a Panasonic camera licensing Arri technology which is made to help solve real problems for productions utilising extremely expensive Arri cameras. That's it. Anything else is a marketing gimmick. Trying to market the GH7 as somehow having the same magic as an Arri is very misleading
We need a comparison bewteen having arri log, and convert the VLOG to Arri Log with a color space transform
what i've read is that this might make it look the same, it still isnt, since the recording in the log profile happens in camera on sensor level before being compressed into the different containers (mov, mp4, etc). So you wont get 100% the same. If its really noticable, especially if youre not a pro colorist, is debatable
They need gyro data for stab or a lock feature. This camera image blows the s5ii/x out of the water. Super impressed. Can’t wait for the FF!
Great video - as always... Thank you for all that you do. QUESTION: How can I let LUMIX know that removing the "Multiple Exposure" feature from the S5 series and the New Micro 4/3 bodies, was a very bad idea. Where is the best place to submit feedback directly to LUMIX?
Of course! A couple places could be Instagram, lumix live streams, and the website contact page would be the best places
I agree Arri log is mainly fun for those who can't afford Arri. It doesn't give more dynamic range from what I saw in someone else's video Arri log had more shadow details and colors looked more punchy, where as vlog had less shadow details but more highlights and seemed flatter. Because the sky was exposed to be blown out for both you can't see difference in the highlights.
I also think the target audience for this camera are not colorists and would use it as you did. Because the camera doesn't film in Braw most aren't going to use Divinci to grade. I think both BM & Panasonic don't want to compete directly. Recent BM cameras don't off ProRes so it make sense no Braw on Panasonic.
With the Blackmagic monitor it does film in braw and I agree with the dynamic range being slightly different
Hi...
Great video....I personally always convert with cinematch any log footage to arri log C (P6K,P4K,GH5,5s,S5 ) it looks always the best...imho did you try to put arri log c on your GH6? And make a GH6 VS GH7 video?
I am thinking about it! But honestly if you just convert your footage VLOG is more than powerful. ARRI is a nice starting base and ignores a step but unless you are actually shooting with ARRI cameras most people don’t need this upgrade unless they want it
From your Footages, the ARRI C-log looks slightly better
That is kinda what I thought too. But I try to spend the same amount of time on both clips and make them look as close as possible with little work. Most of the corrections and grades are about the exact same
Premiere user, but I don't know what the "correct" Arri log approach is.
Until now, I thought the approach would be the same as with the other log profiles. Anyway, for $200, without any difference in dynamic range, I don't think it's worth it unless the GH7 is used by a professional team, using arri log cameras.
Exactly! For people who shoot with ARRI this will be great, but overall technically it should be a "better overall color profile" but you can get the same image with color corrections on VLOG
Little bit strange, how can a lumix canera replace a 30 k thousand Canera? I heard a lot like, is the ssme? So if were the same why soneone is going to buy an Arri if can have tjis cheaper one?
This isn't meant to replace the ARRI camera, now lets just say if all the specs, and features of this camera makes it into a future box-style full-frame camera from lumix with ARRI log well then yeah this can probably get you you pretty close to the same look and style on that camera
In this video comparison the Vlog looks greener than Arri...
Can you shoot ProRes/ProRes HQ at the same time with ARRI Log C3?
Yes you can! That is the prefered way from ARRI, that and All I as well
you can turn the ibis off
The sensor still can move though even if the ibis is off with intense movements which that is the issue
SHOOT BRAW WITH A VIDEO ASSIST IN THE ARRI LOG PROFILE
Hmmm🤔 idk if you can shoot in that profile externally but if you can that’d be cool
If you are shooting Braw you can't shoot in a other profile right?
gh7的1080是几K超采的？
Reviewers are getting younger and younger...
lol ok I make professional TV commercials with multiple of these cameras, run a video production company, and travel all around to produce social media commercials 😂 plus I am 24 which for sure is "young" but I got the credit behind me too
@@MatthewDangyou Congratulations. I'm sure your professional TV commercials are as good as your reviews. 😜
@@dantolino1093 Yep! That is why I get the big bucks 😂
Calling Arrilog the industry standard is just pure marketing hype brother. There is no such thing as indistry standard log gamma. This profile was specifically made to be a b or c-cam for the arri cameras, nothing more.
VLog will do just aswell if not even better. The amount of bull spread by camera companies today is astonishing. The biggest one being "ISO 12800".
Ehhhh but Arri is the industry standard in terms of big productions either in the movie world or in the commercial world for higher end projects
@@MatthewDangyou Yes like you said Arri as a brand is the industry standard, but not LogC which is a gamma curve. GH7 is a Panasonic camera licensing Arri technology which is made to help solve real problems for productions utilising extremely expensive Arri cameras. That's it. Anything else is a marketing gimmick.
Trying to market the GH7 as somehow having the same magic as an Arri is very misleading