The PERFECT SYNTH?? - Moog Subsequent 37
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I realize there are probably other synthesizers, that can do this. But it has been such a difficult thing to find info online about this specific problem. Thanks for watching, I hope you enjoyed it!
I have quite a few synths, and I picked up a Subsequent 37 this summer. They are pretty special. Any synth with MIDI can do the same thing, but not all are great at responding to MIDI clock. One trick is to start the clock a bar before you need to hit record.
Now that I have this one, I suspected it was somewhat common. But when you try to do research on it, literally nothing comes up.
@@ColtCapperrune This is the video I found the other day when trying to solve my MIDI clock timing issue. Things just weren't locking properly.
ua-cam.com/video/EjrvApZgMZo/v-deo.html
@@ColtCapperrune Don't try Polybrute then :) On top of what Moog VST can do, Arturia's (Polybrute only) can do it multi-instantiated. Your tracks in a DAW keep and switch preset on a track in your project you don't even need to save it to hardware. Arturia raises the plank of usability!
So I play Subsequent 37CV and Polybrute the most. I'm planning to "connect" DAW controlling Buchla and ARP2600m over CV using dc-coupled interface outs to replicate what Moog/Arturia VST can do ..... but never actually done that ... yet ... haha
Cool playing in the mate!
There is nothing out there that does it as good as Moog. I have the grandmother and now I think I want this lol. There is just something so smooth and rich about the sound of Moog.
If i could offer some advice, don't go down a crazy synth rabbit hole. Keep this as you main mono-duophonic synth and then get 1 solid poly synth (sequential for example) and you're done. Thats all most people need to cover most needs.
I've got a Subsequent 37 and a Prophet 10. I consider the "analogue corner" in my studio complete...well, for now ;)
@@runestone1337- I paired my Subsequent 37 with a Rev2.
They also pair nicely together.
@@TyroneLoganMusic I paired my Tribute Edition with a Korg Prologue . It's a great combination too.
@@runestone1337good man
Got a Sub37, KingKorg and Jupiter 50 (used). The lot including TR8s, two stands, Adam monitors as Tascam multitrack (SD24sd) cost me under €5000 over five or so years.
I’ve owned quite a few Moogs. The Subsequent 37 is my personal favorite. The filter slopes are really killer, and you can burn a day messing around with looping and syncing the envelopes. And it’s built like a tank.
The build quality is far superior than on the Matriarch.
Excellent choice.
Rest in peace man. Because you just found a new, very expensive rabbit hole :D
There are so many great modern analogue synths released in the last 8 years. Sequential/Dave Smith has some absolutely amazing synthesizers too.
Working with analogue hardware really feels different from clicking your mouse cursor around in software.
Thanks for the condolences…. I certainly need it 😂😂😂
Definitely keep falling down the analog synthesizer rabbit hole. Such a fun piece you made, even as not a keys guy.
It's so much more fun turning knobs on a physical synth vs VST and a controller. There are so many great affordable options these days as well.
Exactly. Excited you've discovered Subsequent 37. Exactly those features locking/linking to DAW with VST makes it my favorite mono analog synth! Companion VST is as beautiful as the Moog itself. Best, you can control more knobs then number of hands you have, by automating several same time thru DAW :)
This became a dream synth for me 7 years ago when I first saw it... only recently been loaned it by a friend and its just amazing. Addicted. Slightly upset I have to give it back at some point hahaha
Hope you can get one for yourself one day soon!
I know you don't do a ton of hip hop but trust me this thing is a beast for hip hop bass
I bet!!
was just playing with mine and then this video popped up! a truly beautiful instrument. it can do some interesting things you wouldn't expect
Okay I've been wanting one so bad since they came out and your video is what is gonna push me into finally purchasing one!
Man it feels good seeing you own this. I love my Sub37. If you want to get personally intimate with it, push it through some reverb and delay pedals and enjoy a beautiful escape. So amazing.
So funny to see this now, I coïncidentally caved & picked it up a week ago myself 😄 love it to bits as well!
Moog Pronunciation, ua-cam.com/video/UDN-y0QQ7cs/v-deo.html "Moog as in Vogue" even Bob himself "prefers" this version...
Awesome. If you need that info, E-RM Multiclock is a way to lock the clock from PT or any DAW to any gear that gets jilter from MIDI Beat Clock.
this has been doable with many many synths for the last 15 years.. been doing all this in my studio for years. I have about 15 synths hooked up all the time and they are all connected via difrent forms of midi. hardware is great. nice Video btw Colt
Love this!!
Very high on my buy list. Awesome track! 👍
Cool video dude, its absolutely a modern classic, I keep it on Bass Duty for all my songs!
Colt! Congratulations on the new Subsequent 37! Good pick! I've got one here too. Not sure if you know or not but the other great thing about the Subsequent 37 is that the presets can be shared. Please consider sharing the patches you made for this demo. Also, not being a synth guy, I'm surprised at how easy and quick you feel you're able to dial in just the kind of sound you have in mind. I'd love to see a video on how you go about creating a patch from scratch. Maybe include a bass and lead sound for sure. Great demo! Thank you!
I picked up 2 moog sirins and coupled with an HX stomp xl there a lot you can get out of those with sync parameters
I just wish that I could see a little more detail on the synth b-roll. I could only see the texture of the material underneath the font.
Mad Sounds !
The subsequent 37 is a must for anyone into synthesizers, i think its the greatest mono synth out there.
Its not a monosynth, it’s a 2-note paraphonic synth.
@@Nomzai it's both 😉
In terms of price/sound/performance my all time fav synth.
I have the Sub 25. Love it! 😍 Records so beautifully that besides adjusting gain I put nothing on the channel. Also your knob issue can be solved with a midi controller. Many of them map automatically to the VST you’re using. 😃
I have a Sub37, Nord Lead, and a hydra synth, I never once have thought about purchasing anything else synth getting those. They provide SOOOOO much and I’ll probably never utilize them to their full potential because they do EVERYTHING
nice combo
Totally with you on locking the arpeggiator to the midi clock. I do that with my Grandmother and MPC and it absolutely rules.
I love my Moog Voyager and Moog One. It is my favorite filter of all time.
Such a good filter!
Amen!!!! Thanks for all your knowledge brotha!! I have been loving your videos. Just bought a stereo pair of K183’s today.
Okay. Damn… always wanted the subsequent 37. you just convinced me. I’m a bass player, always in the need for synth bass sounds…
Amazing video
Brilliant review/demo/MUSIC!!! This thing is a musical -- VERY musical -- instrument. It's a musician's instrument. I love it.
Thanks!
wow that was amazing dude!!!
Thanks!
Outstanding video Colt wow!!!!
Great playing for a non keys player.
really fun video Colt! Sub37 has been a dream synth! one day
Thanks for watching!
An excellent review! And here I am, still bonkers at how pretty it looks with its blinking amber lights, satin brushed aluminum and hardwood case, and the mesmerizing aray of knobs! Joking, of course. It's my fave synth for many reasons.
It doesn't really look that good. He's got video editing adding contrast and color a lot. It's actually a lot duller looking and you should have good light over it to read the text.
@@RogerBrenon Eh? It's a stunning, fantastic-looking synth! I fell in love with it the first time I saw it....then playing it! Woah!! BTW, I own one and have no problem seeing everything I need to, even in low light.
@@blipblip88 I still own and love mine too, and NO, the blacks aren't that black, the wood is not that colorful and the lights aren't that orange. Can't have someone say anything you might seem negative about what you have? Your a little overboard.
@@RogerBrenon I don't think my defense of the design of it is in any way "overboard" as you say. I simply don't see the visual peccadillos you seem to perseverate on. No need to be defensive. There are many synthesizers out ther for everyone. Go find your bliss!
I hope the jams are here to stay, this was sick!
Thanks!! They take a lot of extra time, but I enjoy it if it serves the video!
@@ColtCapperrune absolutely, they're a highlight!
Would love to see how you use this in context of songs and mixes. Where is it a texture, where is it a focal point? That sort of thing. Maybe a tutorial on the tempo lock feature using this and some other common midi instruments.
Also if this is all already on Patreon, please let me know. Lol
Not on Patreon, just yet, but I can certainly do tutorials of those specific things on Patreon, if you’d like! I’m putting pad, and bass synthesizers in every single song, and about a third of the songs, have the arpeggiate are built into it!
Yeah would love to learn more. Been getting into synths for textures for my pop-punk productions. I’m sure there’s a lot of cross over with your production style. Subbing to the Patreon right away!
good stuff
hey colt brilliant vid, i got one this summer for my birthday so im gonna subscribe to your patreon for the tutorial, will it be on the all access tier? thanks a lot
Reasons I find synthesizers fun, they load up quicker then vsts, they take the load off your cpu, they don't crash and sometimes when your session crashes all the vst presets default to the 1st preset making it hard to know what presets you choose and the tweaks you had made, you can get more hands on, less using a mouse, they tend to hold value if/when you'd like to let go of them and sell something.
There's a beauty in the way synthesizers are crafted and the way they light up, (most times the sounds don't have fx on them like vsts do, having said that sometimes fx vsts with hardware really take the sound in a nice direction too.
What I don't like about hardware synthesizers, Some don't have midi, so your locked to recording in stereo or mono, hardware synthesizers can break, remembering which cables go where? Some are not as portable, some gear you can't buy anymore, wishing you got the synthesizer with more keys.
AWESOME Demo - love the snare drum coming in at 1:15. How did you make it? Setting and such ? Thanks, Jim - Arkansas
A lot of us feel the same way you do. The style that you love is ok. You can be known for that. Are you doing live shows? It can play in the background while you do your thing. Cheers
Hello Colt! First of all I apprieciate all your videos, you are truly amazing! I am a guy that play e drums, is it worth it to use an analog bus with like compressor and eq on them even if I use third part like EzDrummer? :)
Great video! thank you. I just got my Subsequent recently , i absolutely love it! but, i just can't find how to control the velocity when playing the keys? can you please help. Thank you
You use Pro Tools to control the Sub37. I use a MPC3000 or XL to MIDI control the Sub37 and the Korg Prologue in practically all the music that I've done over the past five years. All my other synths except for the Korg ARP Odyssey, are pre MIDI so I play them live alongside the Sub37 and Prologue performances that are controlled by the MPC.
Some may say beware the rabbit hole of the analogue synths. Me? I say embrace it until your mixing board is almost full. Even with a patch bay you will have to slow down then, lol. The Sub37 was my very first analogue synth so it has a special place in my heart too.
I had this synth and I recorded with it some cool stuff (I am to think so!). I sold it to buy the Sequential Take 5 that is more flexible for my needs. Anyway the Moog Subsequent 37 is a great duophonic synth.
IDK why but I get so excited when other people get into analog synths. Glad you're enjoying it thus far, hope this piece makes another appearance in another video. 🤌
Haha I get excited when I see anyone get into anything analog 😂🤘🏻🙏🏻
got to love analog no cap @@ColtCapperrune
Guitarist here too and that makes me a bit unsure about dropping moog money, but this one’s pulling me in, the cv outs would be such a bonus! I have the moogerfooger filter and know the sound and build quality is off the charts, can this go as low as the minitaur? I imagine yes but am primarily interested in synth bass lines.
YES! Congrats! But Colt, you own one now, so you gotta say it right 😅 it's Mow-g, like "I'm going to Mow my lawn" but with a G on the end haha. Enjoy the beast
What are your settings for the Thonkin' Kick sound? its great!
this is not synth this is brilliant
Got one a few months ago. The soft synths don't do what this does. Couple things:
- You can gain stage the synth itself. As you play with the levels, it drives harder, like an analog amplifier does.
- It's pronounced "m OH g"....not "m OO g"
I dont even play and want one of these! Id take lessons just to learn how to play the amazing sounds that come out of this thing!
1:17 en 1977 solo 1 tenía la máxima referencia de ese sonido Giorgio⚡Moroder
Brilliant synth! Do you think its synth bass could fit well a modern pop production?
Hey man! As a guitarplayer and mostly songwriter myself - wanting to get into analog hardware synths for a long time - this was one of the most inspirational videos I’ve seen! And you answered the one thing I’ve been wondering myself: Can I sync these things to my DAW bpm, or will it for ever be a curiosity sitting on the sideline of my productions never being fully used because I really can’t play keys that well😄 So you just made my day sir, and my wife will not be happy with the money I’m gonna spend on one of these in the near future😆
I never owned a Moog. But I promised myself. My first one wil be the 37.
I'm considering selling my Access Virus TI 2 (16 chan, 80 voice, "virtual analog") to buy a Moog Subsequent 37 real analog... still didn't deciding about it... great channel by the way, greetings from Brazil!
DUDE!!!! A really LONG TIME AGO I had a Roland Juno 60. It was badass. Now I have a question: The "arpeggiator" ....will it sync-up (like you wanted it to do on ProTools) on Cubase Pro?
Honestly, I can’t speak to any other synthesizer, but I would imagine a significant amount of them that have USB would probably do the same thing. It’s a very hard thing to find out about different synthesizers, which is why it took me so long to pull the trigger on one. Sorry that’s no help at all. Lol.
@@ColtCapperrune Thanks for being straight up Colt. I figure I'll have to find out for myself. I'll let you know how it works out. BTW..the Auratone monitors were some of the BEST money I ever spent (once I put them on iso pads!!)
great vid. Just out of curiosity, have you ever checked out the Arturia soft synths because they made me honestly sell all my analog synths:)
me too, paired with their 61 key controller
@@PlottingTheDownfall yeah I have the 88 key weighted its unbelievable
I have, they are great! I personally still prefer analog. But I have put soft synths on Atleast 2000 song so I’m not hating!
Congrats. This is the piece i've had my eye on but can't justify until i actually start producing results with everything else i have.
[FYI, though, it's pronounced "Moog" as in BOAT or TOAD or GOAT.]
re: your issues with getting arpeggiator sync in the past-i'm not sure i understand. I thought it was always just about setting the synth to follow the DAW/sequencer clock.
Tutorial for the intro piece!!
says he's not a keys player, 🤨 then kills on the keys 😲. 👍👍. Also, I need this Moog in my life
"The presets suck on every VST synth" is a bold and harsh statement! Love my subsequent though, but that VST controller for it is constantly breaking my heart.
is the headline how to sync sub37 with protools?
James Coffee Co. is the best. Shoutout to David from BCR/AVA.
Shut Up & Take My Money 💰👍🏻🎹
I just downloaded pro tools intro. But when i click the play button, i cant hear any sound. Could anyone help me?... In my desktop, i use fl studio too...
Wow! wtf! makes me wanna buy it as a toy. I'm just mixing and mastering btw
Do it! Haha
Noooooo!!! I just paid my Sweetwater card off! Locking arpeggiator you say 🤔
😂😂😂
What I am curious about with this synth, is how the keyboard feels? I've read that it is a bit on the cheap side and noisy...?
Unfortunately I can’t really help there. I don’t notice it being Cheap or flimsy, but in all honesty most keyboards feel more or less the same to me as I am not a seasoned player.
@@ColtCapperrune I'm with you, but when I get synth guys in the studio or pianists in, the first thing they comment on all the time is the feel of the keys. Every. Single. Time. So I am always wondering how the keys feel and sound when played since so many people make comments when they are at my studio.
And I have a old Roland Rhodes mk-80 with real hammers and several controllers and no one is ever satisfied.
Ever heard of the Moog One?
This is my first synth! I'm having trouble wrapping my head around anything past the basics... can anyone point me in the right direction? I'd sincerely appreciate it.
Haha same thing with Matriarch, arp… sync. (And à stereo delay for my guitar)
Isnt it Moog like Moag more of an "O" sound
Never trust people who say Moog wrong
I give you two weeks before you have a prophet-5 and a hydra synth
RIP my bank account 😂
don't forget the Korg MS 20 lmao@@ColtCapperrune
Hi m8, for those who's budget doesn't extend to the SUB37 , have you any sub $1000 alternatives ?
Much appreciated.
Have a look at KingKorg 61 keys. It is VA yet it within a window can mimmick several analog synths very well. Also vocoder 😀
@@user-jy3io4iz2p thanks for the reply
bro said meeeeewg
You do know that almost every modern hardware synth can be midi synced incl the arpeggiator right? 🤷♂
Awesome! Not a side of you we get to see too often.
Thanks! It’s a side I wish I could utilize more often!
I can’t get my sub 37 to talk as much as yours and 37
My Sledge has 3 oscillators.
My car has four wheels 😂
All that for only $2k. Maybe next year.
Just when you mentioned how you wouldn't review hardware with software attached. Ha, seems like you got a cool new toy, nonetheless.
This or the Grandmother?
It's pronounced like "Moge" not like "Mooog". Robert Moog said it's Dutch.
2K is a lot of money...
It is.
It's MOOG, not MOOG!
Ikr!! drive me nuts
i hear too often 'I have a Problem'...
Moog (Moe-g) not (mewg)
Dr Bob said it rhymed with vogue, but he didn’t care how people pronounced it :-)
I love analog synths as much as the next guy, but the idea that software synths like omnisphere, arturia, serum, etc. “suck” or all of their presets suck is just bogus. Like everything in the studio, they are tools and will only be as good as the person using it. But I get it, it’s time to sell some Moogs.
I don’t think the sounds you can get with them sucks at all, but the factory presets suck on all of them in my opinion. Even the factory presets on this Moog suck. Every sound in this video was created from scratch. Thanks for watching!
Not a real keys player. Where is the threshold you have to cross to be considered real?
I love the Moog Subsequent 37. This is going to get expensive. 😄
Sounds like all the other crap
I will never sell mine, I will never sell mine, I will never sell mine 😂