wow! I see the kinist have decided to troll your comments. Great message Pr cooper. Glad to hear your voice on the matter and given biblical thought and rebuke.
God Destroyed the Tower of Babel. In Psalm 85 (Septuagint), Scripture has it, "....and all the nations you have created". God created all the nations of the earth. What the term "racist" is, is a Masonic/Marxist agitprop term. Why so-called "Christians" are using Marxist terms shows the extent of apostasy, evil, and heresy in the Church. Jordan Cooper is a Gnostic. Gnostics have a hatred of particularity and of Nature. I have a paper that addresses this. "The Tower of Babel, The Philosophy of Race and the Genocidal Ideology of Social Justice/Political Correctness" www.academia.edu/14904951/
duckymagic57 God did create us to live and look differently. Times have changed and if a culture is based off of hatred of another race don’t you believe that culture should be forgotten? No one is living like how Jesus did anymore we’ve changed and evolved.
Yeah! Beating a strawman is always a great message, trust me buddy, we "kinists" feel SO rebuked. Trashing people for wanting to preserve the very diversity GOD created is a perfect example of the infestation of neo-Marxist thought into the church.
Too many people assume, if they have not personally witnessed an issue that people are raising, then it must not have happened, or it is not as widespread.
Thanks for having the courage to speak against a culturally long-standing sin that sadly, still prevails in the Christian church to this day. Like it says in the book of Isaiah, “My house will be a house of prayer for ALL nations!” -Isaiah 56:7
@Jan Pearson You are playing right into satan’s hands when you express such prejudice! Be careful, the disdain you have for non-whites can very well be directed right back at you and other whites, by so-called “woke” left-leaning individuals - and the racism directed at whites could be just as ruthless and unjust as it’s been for blacks and other minorities in the past!! “Love covers a multitude of sins!” - Bible. We all need to ask Christ to teach us how to genuinely love one another, regardless of how a person looks!!
1 John 4:20-21 If someone says, " I love God." and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen? And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
The only place I have felt discriminated the most was church, my wife is white and I am hispanic, in different ocassions white people came to say hi to my wife and they even looked at me. I tryed to talk to some people in the beggining but because I am hispanic and have an accent they were not interested on talking to me, the same people I talked once they saw me the next day and they ignored me, walked by me and you could tell they were not interested on talking to me. I joined the worship band and the same happened, I was with them from 6:45am to 1pm on sundays and they just ignored me, one time one of the members of the band came and started calling one by one the members of the team for that sunday to go outside between services, I thought they were just doing something, talking and they didnt tell me to go out, 5 minutes later I see on Facebook that one of them posted a picture with all the band but me saying "here at church with the worship band worshiping God" After that happened I felt so hurt but that didnt make me quit. I stayed 2 more years in the worship team until I couldnt handle it anymore, I fel so discriminated. This was a white mega church now, 2 weeks ago a hispanic friend of mine told me that he was walking to his car after church service and saw a church white people having problems with their car and he came to them and told them: I have a jumper and I can move my car here to help you starting your car....no response....he said again, excuse, I want to help you, I have a jumper and I cam move my car to help you starting your car....the white guy grabbed his phone and it was pretending talking to someone and they never said anything, my friend turned around and almost cried that this was happening at church.
RD EP, I'm so sorry you experienced this. Reading your comment really touched my heart. Those individuals who shunned and ignored you in the church, do not know Jesus Christ. It is really that simple. The do not know the "WORD", the Truth, or the Life. The same thing you described has happened to our family in the church, and it is the most heartbreaking disillusioning experience we have ever known. As newer believers, we came anticipating something akin to the book of Acts in Christianity, just basic kindness, acceptance, warmth. We were so full of joy and really tried to find our place in the body of Christ. Only to find ice cold demonically behaving individuals who hated us without cause. Just like our savior, just like Lazarus. Not in one church but several. We do not go to church anymore, but are strong in the faith, and have church at home. Christ and the bible, and the joy has returned. May you and your family and the friend you mentioned find peace and many blessings in this brief sojourn. For wherever two or three are gathered in my name, there I am also. Jesus said. The Lord is coming soon. I do hope the racists turn to Christ and get to know him to receive salvation. Since this old earth will go up with a fervent heat, and sadly they will go with it, unless they turn to Him. God Bless you. :)
Thank you so much! We experience racism here in Brazil as well, because of how the lutheran church was born as a "church for the lutheran germans in Brazil". As a matter of fact, the racism we experience inside the church is not different as the racism in our society.
@Son of Elohim and? God appointed nations and their ethnic composition. He also gifted discernment. Diversity being a peril is both Biblical and common sense.
@@jackblack496 typical demonic logic by a false person Commenter points out potential sin - someone treating someone wrong you: See people shouldn't be around different people Obvious correct Christian answer: You shouldn't mistreat them because that is sin
Galatians 3:26, 27,28 For you are all sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Skin and culture aren't the same man... Skin means NOTHING! But some cultures practiced human sacrifice, some cultures are horribly pagan, do you think Christian culture (regardless of skin color) is not better than the Hindu culture of death and despair?
There's not racial division in the OT either! Those who have the Abrahamic Faith (handed down by Noah and Shem and revealed by God directly also) are saved regardless of being related to Abraham or not! Melchizadec wasn't (unless he was Shem, then he was the ancestor) the descendent of Abraham. And many egyptians followed Moses, and ALL through the years one could have the Faith of Abraham and be circumcised and really "Become an Israelite!" I.e. even being an Israelite wasn't an ethnic thing from the very beginning!
Hi Dr. Cooper, around 6:20 you say that sin caused cultural and racial division. Aka sin is what created cultural and racial differences. But even if Babel hadn't happened, wouldn't different cultures and races have appeared anyways as mankind followed God's command to multiply and fill the Earth?
The Faith of the old testament was not the Jewish faith... The Jewish Faith is Talmudic Babylonian Paganism. The Abrahamic Faith is the Hebrew Faith, that's why it's the letter to the Hebrews, not the letter to the Jews...
Btw, I find it odd that terms like "racism" are being mixed with theological discussion. The term "racism" didn't exist until the late 1890s and its definition has changed over time. Neither the word nor the concept exist in the Bible.
Fred Harvey But the word SIN does mr Harvey! There are MANY verses that speak on loving ALL people, like, 1 John 4:19-20, “If anyone says, ‘I love God, but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.” And, Isaiah 56:7: “For My house of prayer will be a house of prayer for ALL nations.” No excuses!! Ask God to give you (all of us) a heart of genuine love and acceptance for all ethnic and racial groups and encourage them to come to our churches for teaching and fellowship!! 💜💜💜
There is no such thing as racism. When I see people using that word I know that they are brainwashed by the liberal left. There are group differences which is not the same thing as so-called racism.
Carla Linton. Racism should not be allowed in the church. Because one thing about it. We all are one in Christ Jesus and he loves us all no matter what race we are. We are supposed to love ye one another like The word of God says to do in The Holy Bible.
The only Racism I have experienced among Christians is the Black Racism. It is interesting that you speak about Racism only in terms of White Racism. That tells a lot.
LOL, you are talking about Racism in the Church. Since when are those groups Christian and these people in the Church? No, I am talking about Christians who are Racist. Racism is not a "White thing", there are Racists among all races.
meganotofthisworld Ok, obviously any notion of racial superiority is opposed to the gospel. I'm speaking particularly about Kinism, however, which is (as far as I've ever encountered) a white movement.
Raisin D'être Galatians 3:28-29 KJV *There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.* YOUR RACE CANNOT MEAN MORE TO YOU THAN JESUS.* *CHOOSE.*
Raisin D'être You're being stupid. You don't know God's word. It's irritating to talk with Christians because you *THINK* you know God's word. The religion is satanic. It's false worship. While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, *Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.* Matthew 12:46-50 KJV And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. *And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.* Matthew 19:28-29 KJV *READ & OBEY 1JOHN **2:27**.* You won't find the truth hanging on to Christianity. *CHOOSE.*
you probably have not seen his earlier videos, from 4 years ago. The video i have in mind seems to have disappeared from the list - a very balanced & biblical approach.
It’s kind of sickening to hear a Christian make false accusations against other Christians. 2 things: -Define racism -Explain how kinism fits that definition Name calling is the lazy mans way of not dealing with something he doesn’t like.
@@levibaer18 The Tower of Babel did not happen because he wanted races to be separate. That interpretation comes from the 19th century. It has no historical continuity with the early church or with ancient Judaism
@@randomango2789 I’m not worried about the reason for the Tower of Babel, I’m worried about the stated results, which was the separation. Please tell me, why are Jews an ethnicity? Was it because they never separated themselves?
+Jordan Cooper -- 5:01 *_"If you look at the scriptural arguments they're really bad."_* Then and now when I hear that part I felt you should have either gone into and refuted those "bad arguments" or done so in a separate video. I suppose you felt they were so bad it would have been self-evident to most folks, but that would be assuming those same individuals are familiar with the "in's & out's" of kinism and those particular areas in the Bible. I wish I can say wholeheartedly I saw this coming from a mile away but I can't say I am terribly surprised this video (and I reckon another one) came to the attention of the *_"Faith & Heritage"_* website. :) *_"Jordan Cooper on Kinism"_* by *Davis Carlton* faithandheritage.com/2018/04/jordan-cooper-on-kinism/
@@jasontrevorhaye it’s just Christianity. Whether Protestant, Roman or the various orthodox. It’s all one religion with different expressions. Sadly Judaism is not Gods chosen people. They have been cut off from Christ. Come and be unified to Christ and then you’d be Gods chosen people
Ham was dark skinned and it is Ham who is the father of our people (African people groups, also, the Chinese and a number of other groups). The curse was placed on Canaan specifically, because cursing Ham would have brought shame on Noah, plus, Ham could not be cursed because God had blessed them all (Noah and his family).
If you check the Zondervan Bible it says blacks from the slave trade came from Shem and that the Hamites are Ethiopians, some Africans, Arabs, etc., etc., but it specifies black Americans from slave decent are not Ham. When it's all said in done, let us love and serve The Lord. What a day it will be when, He comes for those who follow Him🥰
Jan Pearson Good day to you❤️ You are correct when you refer to Genesis 9:25 Canaan being cursed who is the son of Ham Genesis 10:6. In the Book of Numbers KJV Moses is mentioned marrying an Ethiopian. When we look in the Hebrew translation it states Cushite. According to Zondervan Bible Dictionary Ham is the progenitor of dark skinned races except African Americans from the slave trade but.... I want to refer to the bible instead. Zephaniah is from the line of Judah. “Book of Zephaniah 1:1 The word of the LORD which came unto Zephaniah the son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hizkiah, in the days of Josiah the son of Amon, king of Judah.” Now, we know Zephaniah is from Judah but we also now know, it is clear he is black because the mere definition in which, he is described means just that. The table of nations in Genesis is very clear. All people of color are not from Ham. If we review Genesis 10 it gives a break down of Ham, Shem, and Japheth; which many bible scholars refer to as the table of nations. In KJV Bible and if you go into the Hebrew translation it doesn’t state “Ham is the father of dark skinned people”. If it did state it in that context.... I would probably assume to lump all dark skinned people together. Cush is a darker skinned people but not all dark skinned people are from Cush. The bible shows us this example in the Book of Zephaniah. Also, King David is was described as “Ruddy” in color. Psalms 7:1 mentions a person from the tribe of Benjamin who is described as Cush too. Theres many other scriptures that point out that not all people of color are from Ham. Why does the Lemba Tribe of Africa have DNA of 50% Jewish blood line? It’s exciting that people from different nations are studying, researching scripture, and are delighted to be enlightened. KJV Book of Genesis 10 and let us see what it says verbatim concerning Japheth and Ham... “Book of Genesis KJV 10 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood. 2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras. 3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah. 4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim. 5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.” 6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan. 7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan. 8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. 9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord. 10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar. 11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah, 12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city. 13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, 14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim. 15 And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth, 16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite, 17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite, 18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad. 19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha. 20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.” I like to go a step further and look this up in the Hebrew translation. I enjoyed this friendly dialogue with you. ❤️ Happy Day to you and take care❤️
If Galatians 3:28 means there are no differences between the races, then there are equally none between the genders. Politically opportunistic pick-and-choose translation of a single verse is not a Biblically consistent, coherent argument. Glad I unsubbed from this channel some months ago. If you want to criticize someone's POV, make sure you actually familiarize yourself with it, by listening to them, before coming out with a series of talking points and vague Johhny-come-lately verse interpretations that didn't exist before the 1960s racial movements.
You have created a straw-man out of the point Dr. Cooper was making. He said there is no difference in our standing with God: "There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality." Romans 2:9-11 Of course he isn't saying there is absolutely no difference! But how does this support that we should segregate and show partiality among ourselves if that is something that not even God does not do? "For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit." Ephesians 2:14-22 Paul argues in the passage above that all believers are "no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God". This means that we are to have fellowship with one another; not to make distinctions between each other in the faith.
Because though God is righteously angry at those who are racist (desire ethnic groups be separete) , like all of us, Jesus Christ still loves even racists! Pray for those who you know are racist because they are blind. You will be blessed for loving your enemies and praying for them! And God can transform hearts! I’ve seen it! 💜
This is an extraordinarily American perspective. You have no understanding of what an ethnicity, tribe, nation, or race is. You think religion, or “faith,” is just one belief of many that anyone can choose.
@@DrJordanBCooper sorry, I didn't know racism was a theological term. somehow it was missed by 2000 years of church history but I guess it's never too late to learn something new.
@@DrJordanBCooper If you type "racism" into the Google Ngram Viewer, the word started to become used around 1938-1940. It is not a theological word but a political word. The word "racist" has for a long time been the single most effective fear-word in the leftist and neoconservative arsenal. For decades, they have successfully used it in the political arena to slander traditionalists, shut down debate, and leave opponents running for cover. In the social arena, they have caused even more damage by using it to brainwash impressionable children and young college students, and to teach white people to hate their nation, their cultural traditions, and worst of all, themselves.
I grew up on a farm where always and every day animal husbandry was a collection of positive factors and features that must be maintained lest we degrade the attributes of the various breeds of animals. Dog breeds can degrade into mutts. Did you know that left to themselves horses and jackasses will mate? Every race, each with magnificent attributes, is God's handiwork. All nations (ethneos) must be treasured and maintained.
Jewish Christians??? That's like saying Muslim Christians man... Come on... Judaism is an intertestamental religion that is NOT the Abrahamic Faith, which is better described as Hebrew or Yahwist... Jesus was a Judahite Hebrew/ Yahwist. Not a Babylonian Pagan Jew!
The bible contradicts you constantly For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. You are attempting to contort the word of God for the sake of your false teaching and errant views
So you take something at faith value, telling in a way that makes it easy to deal with for you, but never looked into the matter of what the actual reasons are? And Massachusetts, I get it that this used to be a virtually all white state. Oh and thanks for bringing up that 'Racism' is a misleading a term. Those using are actually demonstrating how either silly or dishonest they are (or both).
wow! I see the kinist have decided to troll your comments. Great message Pr cooper. Glad to hear your voice on the matter and given biblical thought and rebuke.
Avon Clayton Oh this only the beginning. I'm sure there's plenty more to come.
God Destroyed the Tower of Babel. In Psalm 85 (Septuagint), Scripture has it, "....and all the nations you have created". God created all the nations of the earth. What the term "racist" is, is a Masonic/Marxist agitprop term. Why so-called "Christians" are using Marxist terms shows the extent of apostasy, evil, and heresy in the Church. Jordan Cooper is a Gnostic. Gnostics have a hatred of particularity and of Nature. I have a paper that addresses this. "The Tower of Babel, The Philosophy of Race and the Genocidal Ideology of Social Justice/Political Correctness"
www.academia.edu/14904951/
duckymagic57 God did create us to live and look differently. Times have changed and if a culture is based off of hatred of another race don’t you believe that culture should be forgotten? No one is living like how Jesus did anymore we’ve changed and evolved.
Yeah! Beating a strawman is always a great message, trust me buddy, we "kinists" feel SO rebuked. Trashing people for wanting to preserve the very diversity GOD created is a perfect example of the infestation of neo-Marxist thought into the church.
@Jan Pearson Uh no - differing races, nations, tribes existed before Marx.
I pray God blesses you with all your heart desires my brother in Christ!
Sad to say, ur the only person ive seen focus on this subject to root it out! Ty ty for defending the TRUTH brother😢❤
Too many people assume, if they have not personally witnessed an issue that people are raising, then it must not have happened, or it is not as widespread.
Thanks for having the courage to speak against a culturally long-standing sin that sadly, still prevails in the Christian church to this day. Like it says in the book of Isaiah, “My house will be a house of prayer for ALL nations!” -Isaiah 56:7
@Jan Pearson You are playing right into satan’s hands when you express such prejudice! Be careful, the disdain you have for non-whites can very well be directed right back at you and other whites, by so-called “woke” left-leaning individuals - and the racism directed at whites could be just as ruthless and unjust as it’s been for blacks and other minorities in the past!!
“Love covers a multitude of sins!” - Bible. We all need to ask Christ to teach us how to genuinely love one another, regardless of how a person looks!!
1 John 4:20-21 If someone says, " I love God." and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen, how can he love God whom he has not seen?
And this commandment we have from Him: that he who loves God must love his brother also.
The only place I have felt discriminated the most was church, my wife is white and I am hispanic, in different ocassions white people came to say hi to my wife and they even looked at me. I tryed to talk to some people in the beggining but because I am hispanic and have an accent they were not interested on talking to me, the same people I talked once they saw me the next day and they ignored me, walked by me and you could tell they were not interested on talking to me. I joined the worship band and the same happened, I was with them from 6:45am to 1pm on sundays and they just ignored me, one time one of the members of the band came and started calling one by one the members of the team for that sunday to go outside between services, I thought they were just doing something, talking and they didnt tell me to go out, 5 minutes later I see on Facebook that one of them posted a picture with all the band but me saying "here at church with the worship band worshiping God" After that happened I felt so hurt but that didnt make me quit. I stayed 2 more years in the worship team until I couldnt handle it anymore, I fel so discriminated.
This was a white mega church now, 2 weeks ago a hispanic friend of mine told me that he was walking to his car after church service and saw a church white people having problems with their car and he came to them and told them: I have a jumper and I can move my car here to help you starting your car....no response....he said again, excuse, I want to help you, I have a jumper and I cam move my car to help you starting your car....the white guy grabbed his phone and it was pretending talking to someone and they never said anything, my friend turned around and almost cried that this was happening at church.
RD EP, I'm so sorry you experienced this. Reading your comment really touched my heart. Those individuals who shunned and ignored you in the church, do not know Jesus Christ. It is really that simple. The do not know the "WORD", the Truth, or the Life. The same thing you described has happened to our family in the church, and it is the most heartbreaking disillusioning experience we have ever known. As newer believers, we came anticipating something akin to the book of Acts in Christianity, just basic kindness, acceptance, warmth. We were so full of joy and really tried to find our place in the body of Christ. Only to find ice cold demonically behaving individuals who hated us without cause. Just like our savior, just like Lazarus. Not in one church but several. We do not go to church anymore, but are strong in the faith, and have church at home. Christ and the bible, and the joy has returned. May you and your family and the friend you mentioned find peace and many blessings in this brief sojourn. For wherever two or three are gathered in my name, there I am also. Jesus said. The Lord is coming soon. I do hope the racists turn to Christ and get to know him to receive salvation. Since this old earth will go up with a fervent heat, and sadly they will go with it, unless they turn to Him. God Bless you. :)
eek, just corrected my typo in first couple sentences.
I feel for you. I expirienced the same many times. I am white but I don t speak english accent free...
Did you originate illegally? I mean you do realize your tribe has basically stolen from whites for 50 years or more.
Sorry to hear that man. Even though this post is dirt old.
Thank you so much! We experience racism here in Brazil as well, because of how the lutheran church was born as a "church for the lutheran germans in Brazil". As a matter of fact, the racism we experience inside the church is not different as the racism in our society.
So diversity is bad? Who knew
@Son of Elohim and? God appointed nations and their ethnic composition. He also gifted discernment. Diversity being a peril is both Biblical and common sense.
@@jackblack496 typical demonic logic by a false person
Commenter points out potential sin - someone treating someone wrong
you: See people shouldn't be around different people
Obvious correct Christian answer: You shouldn't mistreat them because that is sin
I'd love to see some fresh yoyo videos.
That yoyo video made me lutheran
Hah! I haven't had much time to practice recently.
Galatians 3:26, 27,28 For you are all sons of God through faith in Jesus Christ.
For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Skin and culture aren't the same man...
Skin means NOTHING!
But some cultures practiced human sacrifice, some cultures are horribly pagan, do you think Christian culture (regardless of skin color) is not better than the Hindu culture of death and despair?
There's not racial division in the OT either!
Those who have the Abrahamic Faith (handed down by Noah and Shem and revealed by God directly also) are saved regardless of being related to Abraham or not! Melchizadec wasn't (unless he was Shem, then he was the ancestor) the descendent of Abraham.
And many egyptians followed Moses, and ALL through the years one could have the Faith of Abraham and be circumcised and really "Become an Israelite!"
I.e. even being an Israelite wasn't an ethnic thing from the very beginning!
Hi Dr. Cooper, around 6:20 you say that sin caused cultural and racial division. Aka sin is what created cultural and racial differences. But even if Babel hadn't happened, wouldn't different cultures and races have appeared anyways as mankind followed God's command to multiply and fill the Earth?
The Faith of the old testament was not the Jewish faith...
The Jewish Faith is Talmudic Babylonian Paganism.
The Abrahamic Faith is the Hebrew Faith, that's why it's the letter to the Hebrews, not the letter to the Jews...
Lmao Yea IFB didn't shake a black lady's hand. I'm sorry, but that didn't happen. You got Jussie Smollet'd Pastor.
Btw, I find it odd that terms like "racism" are being mixed with theological discussion. The term "racism" didn't exist until the late 1890s and its definition has changed over time. Neither the word nor the concept exist in the Bible.
Fred Harvey But the word SIN does mr Harvey! There are MANY verses that speak on loving ALL people, like, 1 John 4:19-20, “If anyone says, ‘I love God, but hates his brother, he is a liar. For anyone who does not love his brother, whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.”
And, Isaiah 56:7: “For My house of prayer will be a house of prayer for ALL nations.” No excuses!! Ask God to give you (all of us) a heart of genuine love and acceptance for all ethnic and racial groups and encourage them to come to our churches for teaching and fellowship!! 💜💜💜
There is no such thing as racism. When I see people using that word I know that they are brainwashed by the liberal left. There are group differences which is not the same thing as so-called racism.
@@virtualpilgrim8645 Torah specifically commands discrimination against outsiders in all facets of life. Do these people read?
@@fredharvey2720 I agree with you on that if it is applied only within the context of the church. I just don't think using the word racism is helpful.
That's like saying the word Trinity isn't useful because it's not in the Bible
Carla Linton. Racism should not be allowed in the church. Because one thing about it. We all are one in Christ Jesus and he loves us all no matter what race we are. We are supposed to love ye one another like The word of God says to do in The Holy Bible.
The only Racism I have experienced among Christians is the Black Racism. It is interesting that you speak about Racism only in terms of White Racism. That tells a lot.
meganotofthisworld The black racism? What do you mean?
meganotofthisworld You mean like Black Hebrew Israelites and groups like that? Sure, that stuff is awful, but I'm not very well acquainted with it.
LOL, you are talking about Racism in the Church. Since when are those groups Christian and these people in the Church? No, I am talking about Christians who are Racist. Racism is not a "White thing", there are Racists among all races.
LOL, are you kidding me?
meganotofthisworld Ok, obviously any notion of racial superiority is opposed to the gospel. I'm speaking particularly about Kinism, however, which is (as far as I've ever encountered) a white movement.
We're ALL supposed to be equal in Christ. Racists can't claim Jesus as Lord. You should call them out in the name of Jesus.
Raisin D'être *RACISTS CAN'T CLAIM CHRIST AS LORD.*
Raisin D'être Galatians 3:28-29 KJV
*There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.*
YOUR RACE CANNOT MEAN MORE TO YOU THAN JESUS.*
*CHOOSE.*
Raisin D'être Stupid.
*NO RACE, CULTURE OR GENDER SEPARATES US IN JESUS.*
You can't read scripture😂
Raisin D'être Do you pagan.
Leave me alone.
Raisin D'être You're being stupid.
You don't know God's word. It's irritating to talk with Christians because you *THINK* you know God's word. The religion is satanic. It's false worship.
While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, *Behold my mother and my brethren! For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.*
Matthew 12:46-50 KJV
And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. *And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.*
Matthew 19:28-29 KJV
*READ & OBEY 1JOHN **2:27**.*
You won't find the truth hanging on to Christianity.
*CHOOSE.*
Can you consider talking about sexuality, homosexuality and church doctrine.
you probably have not seen his earlier videos, from 4 years ago. The video i have in mind seems to have disappeared from the list - a very balanced & biblical approach.
It’s kind of sickening to hear a Christian make false accusations against other Christians. 2 things:
-Define racism
-Explain how kinism fits that definition
Name calling is the lazy mans way of not dealing with something he doesn’t like.
@Jan Pearson
A man’s bounds was defined at the Tower of Babel. This won’t change until after Jesus’ second coming.
@@levibaer18 The Tower of Babel did not happen because he wanted races to be separate. That interpretation comes from the 19th century. It has no historical continuity with the early church or with ancient Judaism
@@randomango2789
I’m not worried about the reason for the Tower of Babel, I’m worried about the stated results, which was the separation.
Please tell me, why are Jews an ethnicity? Was it because they never separated themselves?
You need to make a video about anti Semitism.
+Jordan Cooper -- 5:01 *_"If you look at the scriptural arguments they're really bad."_* Then and now when I hear that part I felt you should have either gone into and refuted those "bad arguments" or done so in a separate video. I suppose you felt they were so bad it would have been self-evident to most folks, but that would be assuming those same individuals are familiar with the "in's & out's" of kinism and those particular areas in the Bible.
I wish I can say wholeheartedly I saw this coming from a mile away but I can't say I am terribly surprised this video (and I reckon another one) came to the attention of the *_"Faith & Heritage"_* website. :)
*_"Jordan Cooper on Kinism"_* by *Davis Carlton*
faithandheritage.com/2018/04/jordan-cooper-on-kinism/
You witnessed it not experienced it
Why did we have to break off from judisim
There was no breaking off. The Jewish religion is obsolete now. The messiah has come.
@@emilianoking9400 what planet are you on
@@jasontrevorhaye the planet where Christianity is only true religion
@@emilianoking9400 which version of Christianity? Judisim is Gods chosen peoples religion
@@jasontrevorhaye it’s just Christianity. Whether Protestant, Roman or the various orthodox. It’s all one religion with different expressions. Sadly Judaism is not Gods chosen people. They have been cut off from Christ. Come and be unified to Christ and then you’d be Gods chosen people
Ham was dark skinned and it is Ham who is the father of our people (African people groups, also, the Chinese and a number of other groups). The curse was placed on Canaan specifically, because cursing Ham would have brought shame on Noah, plus, Ham could not be cursed because God had blessed them all (Noah and his family).
The Chinese are descendants of Shem
If you check the Zondervan Bible it says blacks from the slave trade came from Shem and that the Hamites are Ethiopians, some Africans, Arabs, etc., etc., but it specifies black Americans from slave decent are not Ham. When it's all said in done, let us love and serve The Lord. What a day it will be when, He comes for those who follow Him🥰
Kim Singleton that Bible was first created in 1978 it’s blasphemy!!!!
Jan Pearson Good day to you❤️
You are correct when you refer to Genesis 9:25 Canaan being cursed who is the son of Ham Genesis 10:6. In the Book of Numbers KJV Moses is mentioned marrying an Ethiopian. When we look in the Hebrew translation it states Cushite. According to Zondervan Bible Dictionary Ham is the progenitor of dark skinned races except African Americans from the slave trade but.... I want to refer to the bible instead. Zephaniah is from the line of Judah. “Book of Zephaniah 1:1
The word of the LORD which came unto Zephaniah the son of Cushi, the son of Gedaliah, the son of Amariah, the son of Hizkiah, in the days of Josiah the son of Amon, king of Judah.” Now, we know Zephaniah is from Judah but we also now know, it is clear he is black because the mere definition in which, he is described means just that. The table of nations in Genesis is very clear. All people of color are not from Ham. If we review Genesis 10 it gives a break down of Ham, Shem, and Japheth; which many bible scholars refer to as the table of nations. In KJV Bible and if you go into the Hebrew translation it doesn’t state “Ham is the father of dark skinned people”. If it did state it in that context.... I would probably assume to lump all dark skinned people together. Cush is a darker skinned people but not all dark skinned people are from Cush. The bible shows us this example in the Book of Zephaniah. Also, King David is was described as “Ruddy” in color. Psalms 7:1 mentions a person from the tribe of Benjamin who is described as Cush too. Theres many other scriptures that point out that not all people of color are from Ham. Why does the Lemba Tribe of Africa have DNA of 50% Jewish blood line? It’s exciting that people from different nations are studying, researching scripture, and are delighted to be enlightened. KJV Book of Genesis 10 and let us see what it says verbatim concerning Japheth and Ham...
“Book of Genesis KJV 10 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.”
6 And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan.
7 And the sons of Cush; Seba, and Havilah, and Sabtah, and Raamah, and Sabtechah: and the sons of Raamah; Sheba, and Dedan.
8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.
9 He was a mighty hunter before the Lord: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the Lord.
10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.
11 Out of that land went forth Asshur, and builded Nineveh, and the city Rehoboth, and Calah,
12 And Resen between Nineveh and Calah: the same is a great city.
13 And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim,
14 And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim.
15 And Canaan begat Sidon his first born, and Heth,
16 And the Jebusite, and the Amorite, and the Girgasite,
17 And the Hivite, and the Arkite, and the Sinite,
18 And the Arvadite, and the Zemarite, and the Hamathite: and afterward were the families of the Canaanites spread abroad.
19 And the border of the Canaanites was from Sidon, as thou comest to Gerar, unto Gaza; as thou goest, unto Sodom, and Gomorrah, and Admah, and Zeboim, even unto Lasha.
20 These are the sons of Ham, after their families, after their tongues, in their countries, and in their nations.”
I like to go a step further and look this up in the Hebrew translation. I enjoyed this friendly dialogue with you. ❤️ Happy Day to you and take care❤️
If Galatians 3:28 means there are no differences between the races, then there are equally none between the genders. Politically opportunistic pick-and-choose translation of a single verse is not a Biblically consistent, coherent argument. Glad I unsubbed from this channel some months ago.
If you want to criticize someone's POV, make sure you actually familiarize yourself with it, by listening to them, before coming out with a series of talking points and vague Johhny-come-lately verse interpretations that didn't exist before the 1960s racial movements.
You have created a straw-man out of the point Dr. Cooper was making. He said there is no difference in our standing with God: "There will be tribulation and distress for every human being who does evil, the Jew first and also the Greek, but glory and honor and peace for everyone who does good, the Jew first and also the Greek. For God shows no partiality." Romans 2:9-11
Of course he isn't saying there is absolutely no difference! But how does this support that we should segregate and show partiality among ourselves if that is something that not even God does not do?
"For he himself is our peace, who has made us both one and has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility by abolishing the law of commandments expressed in ordinances, that he might create in himself one new man in place of the two, so making peace, and might reconcile us both to God in one body through the cross, thereby killing the hostility. And he came and preached peace to you who were far off and peace to those who were near. For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by the Spirit." Ephesians 2:14-22
Paul argues in the passage above that all believers are "no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God". This means that we are to have fellowship with one another; not to make distinctions between each other in the faith.
Why argue with people who are destined for hell...move out of their way and have at it.
Because though God is righteously angry at those who are racist (desire ethnic groups be separete) , like all of us, Jesus Christ still loves even racists! Pray for those who you know are racist because they are blind. You will be blessed for loving your enemies and praying for them! And God can transform hearts! I’ve seen it! 💜
Cultural Observer True I’ve seen former racists actually speak out against it and that was nothing but the power of our Heavenly Father
This is an extraordinarily American perspective. You have no understanding of what an ethnicity, tribe, nation, or race is. You think religion, or “faith,” is just one belief of many that anyone can choose.
Hard to believe the pastor would not shake the black womans hand.
Kinism is addressed in the Bible.
God was specific I his instructions
Please explain.
This guy in the video claims to be biblical and yet he uses an unbiblical word, "racism".
You'll be shocked when you hear that I use the unbiblical word "Trinity" too.
@@DrJordanBCooper sorry, I didn't know racism was a theological term. somehow it was missed by 2000 years of church history but I guess it's never too late to learn something new.
@@DrJordanBCooper If you type "racism" into the Google Ngram Viewer, the word started to become used around 1938-1940. It is not a theological word but a political word.
The word "racist" has for a long time been the single most effective fear-word in the leftist and neoconservative arsenal. For decades, they have successfully used it in the political arena to slander traditionalists, shut down debate, and leave opponents running for cover. In the social arena, they have caused even more damage by using it to brainwash impressionable children and young college students, and to teach white people to hate their nation, their cultural traditions, and worst of all, themselves.
I grew up on a farm where always and every day animal husbandry was a collection of positive factors and features that must be maintained lest we degrade the attributes of the various breeds of animals. Dog breeds can degrade into mutts. Did you know that left to themselves horses and jackasses will mate? Every race, each with magnificent attributes, is God's handiwork. All nations (ethneos) must be treasured and maintained.
Rahab was a cousin of the Israelites.
Wow, I see mething like kinist in this modern age.
Jewish Christians???
That's like saying Muslim Christians man...
Come on...
Judaism is an intertestamental religion that is NOT the Abrahamic Faith, which is better described as Hebrew or Yahwist...
Jesus was a Judahite Hebrew/ Yahwist.
Not a Babylonian Pagan Jew!
The bible contradicts you constantly
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
You are attempting to contort the word of God for the sake of your false teaching and errant views
I love how the Russian troll factories have worked overtime with this comments section.
So you take something at faith value, telling in a way that makes it easy to deal with for you, but never looked into the matter of what the actual reasons are? And Massachusetts, I get it that this used to be a virtually all white state.
Oh and thanks for bringing up that 'Racism' is a misleading a term. Those using are actually demonstrating how either silly or dishonest they are (or both).
There seems to be a modern correlation between beard length and testosterone deficiency
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