Typical installation of Ubuntu vs Arch vs Gentoo Linux...

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • Make sure you have some liquid nitrogen before installing Gentoo!
    This video is the comparison of Ubuntu Linux installation experience with Arch Linux install & configuration and finally Gentoo compilation.
    Music by: Kevin MacLeod; me; Mick Gordon
    Video sources:
    Ubuntu - • How to Install Ubuntu ...
    Arch Linux - • Arch Linux with Xfce i...
    Gentoo - • Gentoo linux installat... (a really good video)
    And the cute bird is from "Winged Experience" channel

КОМЕНТАРІ • 836

  • @Virbox
    @Virbox  Рік тому +61

    I made a 10-in-1 programming tutorial - ua-cam.com/video/0mXJISfgVEY/v-deo.html

  • @1creeperbomb
    @1creeperbomb Рік тому +1986

    Ubuntu: Here's an easy GUI installer, it'll do everything for you
    Fedora: Here's a GUI installer but feel free to customize whatever you want either with installer or with terminal or something else like gparted
    Arch: Haha screw you and learn all my CLI tools
    Gentoo: *compile from source mortal*

    • @elektra81516
      @elektra81516 Рік тому +217

      Also Arch: Use archinstall 🗿

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому +68

      The Ubuntu graphical installer also allows you to customise whatever you want. It doesn't tell you how, but it allows it.
      Gentoo is easier and more straightforward to install and use than Arch. But yes, it compiles everything from source, which takes time and electricity, and, like Arch, it is rolling release, which means compile from source everyday. But the USE flag is without compare. Gentoo is great for clusters, or for building distributions from scratch; not so great for laptops.

    • @SeorBaltasar
      @SeorBaltasar Рік тому +20

      busybox: figure out how to get the sources first, you bloaty beeing!!!

    • @gamingwithvaibhav2787
      @gamingwithvaibhav2787 Рік тому +15

      lfs be like making a compiler from scratch to compile a cross compiler to compile a compiler that will compile the GCC

    • @adriantell7237
      @adriantell7237 Рік тому +6

      @@elektra81516 a hate archinstall

  • @Kodeb8
    @Kodeb8 Рік тому +995

    Installing Ubuntu is unironically easier than installing Windows.

    • @TriflingToad
      @TriflingToad Рік тому +31

      Tell that to a first time installer that has only used windows their whole life 😭

    • @vijfsnippervijf
      @vijfsnippervijf Рік тому

      @@TriflingToad F*** the privacy “options” though! Microsoft doesn’t care about privacy and is H A P P Y to support a dictator who also doesn’t care about other countries’ sovereignty… Yes I’m talking about the spyware that’s made to read everything you do in the most intrusive & inefficient way possible…

    • @georgeadrianstefan1676
      @georgeadrianstefan1676 Рік тому +161

      ​@@TriflingToad As an ex windows user, I can confirm that Ubuntu and Mint are way easier to install than any Windows

    • @victor_hernandez_g
      @victor_hernandez_g Рік тому +8

      Yes, that's right.

    • @riverpool3cns4
      @riverpool3cns4 11 місяців тому

      Kali is a nightmare

  • @ezekiellaww2524
    @ezekiellaww2524 Рік тому +923

    the reason most Arch users are so in your face about using it is because most of them installed it before the scripting came out and faced literal hell, so them always saying "hey I use Arch Linux for my computer btw" is something equivalent to "hey I fought and slayed a dragon and now hold it's head on my mantlepiece but it still doesn't connect to bluetooth btw"

    • @Potato_Quality7
      @Potato_Quality7 Рік тому +63

      Yo, that bluetooth one, I thought I was alone 😭😭😭

    • @jorios550
      @jorios550 Рік тому +119

      "Literal hell"
      Partition
      Pacstrap
      Chroot
      Update three or four configs
      Grub and grub-install
      Done.

    • @swordofstabbing
      @swordofstabbing Рік тому +18

      @@jorios550 I think that stuff came after the scripting?
      EDIT: unless scripting is just archinstall specifically

    • @creepergd4884
      @creepergd4884 Рік тому +9

      Oh dude for Bluetooth for me I have an Asus bt 500 and the only way I could even get that working was by downloading the driver from asus's website and running the install script. I wish I was joking but there was nothing in the AUR for this. Arch isn't hard in general, even that, but in this case arch didn't properly support those drivers and I went through Bluetooth hell.

    • @swordofstabbing
      @swordofstabbing Рік тому +8

      Oh god creating the UEFI partition is hell

  • @brutester
    @brutester 2 роки тому +367

    In my view, Gentoo is about learning the internals of packages and know how to troubleshoot and solve errors. And the knowledge is mostly transferable to any distro after that. I am the one everybody calls when their Linux distro fails to boot and they need hardcore recovery.

    • @ano_nym
      @ano_nym Рік тому +92

      Arch is about being able to say that you use Arch. (It also has the coolest logo)

    • @itzlqmer6084
      @itzlqmer6084 Рік тому +6

      @@ano_nym ye and arch isnt even that hard to use

    • @ano_nym
      @ano_nym Рік тому +23

      @@itzlqmer6084 yeah, once installed it's even one of the easier to use. As you have the AUR which makes install of many more programs easier.

    • @EloNaj
      @EloNaj Рік тому +24

      @@itzlqmer6084 I changed to Gentoo a couple of years ago cause my toolchain destroyed itself too much on updates. And you can repair Gentoo even in the most absurd stages of destruction.

    • @sFeral
      @sFeral Рік тому +5

      @@EloNaj timeline where timeshift doesn't exist

  • @oneandonly_h4
    @oneandonly_h4 2 роки тому +499

    Gentoo taught me how to install Arch better than Arch did. I don't know if it was because of experience, but I installed Arch better than I used to from Gentoo.

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 роки тому +126

      Yeah, Gentoo improves Linux skills a lot

    • @Kin2InuYasha
      @Kin2InuYasha 2 роки тому +58

      Crap, does this mean I need to install Gentoo now just for the experience? I've deployed arch on a couple of machines several years ago, but I've never dabbled with Gentoo.

    • @Endermen1094
      @Endermen1094 2 роки тому +19

      @@Kin2InuYasha no it dues have a more user readable wiki

    • @Melechtna
      @Melechtna 2 роки тому +77

      Gentoo taught me SO much when it comes to Linux, Arch seems like a cake walk now. The weird thing is, the more I learn about Linux, the more "curated" distros make my head hurt, because they break any time you try to do anything outside of their "vision".

    • @gabrielanio635
      @gabrielanio635 2 роки тому +2

      @@Virbox real

  • @1000niggawatt
    @1000niggawatt Рік тому +856

    Once i was stuck with no heating, and was basically freezing to death.
    So i ran emerge -e world on my laptop and used it for warmth.
    True story. Gentoo saved my life.

    • @jamesbrendan5170
      @jamesbrendan5170 Рік тому +26

      yeah, well, define "freezing", like it's winter-freezing, or LETTY*-IS-STANDING-RIGHT-NEXT-TO-YOU-freezing?
      *you can replace Letty w/ Cirno, or something, idk.

    • @szymonn4800
      @szymonn4800 Рік тому +14

      when i was installing gentoo on my laptop gcc compiled for like 5,5 hours and it was hot af

    • @amogus7
      @amogus7 Рік тому +12

      pov: you are a frog

    • @jpsalis
      @jpsalis Рік тому +8

      Might get Gentoo for when I need to turn my PC into a dedicated heater

    • @oh_finks
      @oh_finks Рік тому +1

      cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null

  • @Melechtna
    @Melechtna 2 роки тому +2443

    You missed the part where Ubuntu decides to break itself just because it felt like it.

    • @ran2wild370
      @ran2wild370 2 роки тому +64

      Don't install too many programs with apt install :-))

    • @GustavoGuedin
      @GustavoGuedin 2 роки тому +271

      @@ran2wild370 This doesn't make any sense. If the repository packages break the installation, that means it's not well tested.

    • @oneandonly_h4
      @oneandonly_h4 2 роки тому +101

      @@GustavoGuedin And definitely not ready for my 6000 packages

    • @simonecatenacci726
      @simonecatenacci726 2 роки тому +29

      @@ran2wild370 And that's why flatpack is used

    • @foggs2275
      @foggs2275 2 роки тому +22

      ​@@simonecatenacci726 open a terminal and type
      lsblk | wc -l
      Then reread your comment.

  • @YaroLord
    @YaroLord Рік тому +248

    Arch users feeling like top tier hackers after merely copy pasting every step on the wiki and not even understanding what or why they’re doing it 😂

    • @chevvvv
      @chevvvv Рік тому +40

      haven't even touched Arch yet but I had a feeling it'd be like that

    • @stingfiretube
      @stingfiretube Рік тому +60

      Copying is completely fine cause the wiki is meant for it, and you also don't want to screw up your machine. But bragging rights come with understanding each of those steps.

    • @VioletRM
      @VioletRM 10 місяців тому +15

      you only get to brag when you do it from memory B)

    • @dog4ik
      @dog4ik 9 місяців тому +4

      @@chevvvv nowadays it comes with archinstall so it got a lot simpler

    • @scrapmine
      @scrapmine 5 місяців тому +6

      I mean you just create, format and mount partitions and use packstrap to install the things needed for a working system.

  • @LordHonkInc
    @LordHonkInc 2 роки тому +828

    You gotta give Ubuntu (or any other relatively easy to install distros like Fedora or openSUSE) credit; they might not be the best/fastest/smallest distros around, but you have to admit installing them is - in 90% of cases - really intuitive and leaves you with a default installation that would satisfy most "I have to work _at_ my PC, not _on_ it" users. Sure, getting the perfect install _for your specific needs_ isn't gonna be just the Ubuntu defaults, but it's still admirable to try and make it as easy as possible for the largest number of users with varying levels of skill.

    • @Draggobuttboi
      @Draggobuttboi 2 роки тому +51

      Also Ubuntu: I'm just going to ignore where you selected to install grub.

    • @user-gw1sh9qc2s
      @user-gw1sh9qc2s 2 роки тому +29

      Using gentoo is not necessarily to achieve a smaller or faster system. Its to achieve a system that you can administrate without the choices made by distro maintenance teams.

    • @vincentschumann937
      @vincentschumann937 2 роки тому +9

      @@Draggobuttboi one of the reasons why i dont recommend ubuntu to new people just use debian also very easy to use and setup but is far more reliable

    • @Schultz3
      @Schultz3 2 роки тому +24

      The best install is debian, it's intuitive and can be tailored to your needs if you want to. It's not hard locked like Ubuntu, and not stupid like Arch.
      The only "issue" is with non-free packages, but that's just one command you need to put in.

    • @bacalhau_seco
      @bacalhau_seco Рік тому +2

      @@Schultz3 as stable as debian is i prefer to use arch, im a lot more used to it

  • @miniimposter
    @miniimposter Рік тому +32

    I like the fact that you pick "The only thing they fear is you" for Gentoo

  • @gentoolinuxuser4387
    @gentoolinuxuser4387 2 роки тому +44

    i once installed gentoo on a core 2 duo thinkpad with 2 gigs of ram on an old hdd.
    I also made breakfast & dinner on the laptop whilst it was compiling everything

  • @Vilematrix
    @Vilematrix 2 роки тому +78

    You know you have gone to far, when you want to install gentoo to relax.

    • @r4ng3l56
      @r4ng3l56 Рік тому +1

      damn

    • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
      @user-uo8ny1kj4c Рік тому +3

      yeah everybody knows that freebsd is clearly superior to gentoo

    • @degastar
      @degastar 2 місяці тому +2

      Unironically I find installing Gentoo to be therapeutic. After you've done it a few times, you get familiar - nothing about it is scary and it becomes routine. So I actually find doing a Gentoo install with a new target goal (maybe another DE, maybe another init, let's try musl, etc.) to be a good way to unwind while solidifying my Linux skills and probably learning a new thing or two while I'm at it.

    • @Vilematrix
      @Vilematrix 2 місяці тому

      @@degastar my dad sometimes looks over my shoulder and says, how do you remember all that. I had the same when he was working with floppy disks.
      Ive looked in the docs of Gentoo and its nice. If you take your time to read and have worked with linux before, you will figure it out.
      Although ive worked with Parrot, blackarch and kali in the past to test my LAN, i personally found a automated and minimalist design more pleasant, but to each there own.

  • @TurdInternational
    @TurdInternational 10 місяців тому +713

    Gentoo: what windows users think linux users do
    Arch: what linux users tell windows users they do
    Ubuntu: what linux users actually do 90% of the time

    • @NavatejRatnan
      @NavatejRatnan 8 місяців тому +40

      🤓Not trueeee 😢I use arch btw

    • @د-ت
      @د-ت 7 місяців тому +2

      ubuntu for begginers

    • @icantcomeupwithnames469
      @icantcomeupwithnames469 7 місяців тому +51

      @@د-ت"People only say Ubuntu is for beginners because they want to feel superior. I *also* say Ubuntu is for beginners, because I *also* want to feel superior."

    • @jit_x
      @jit_x 6 місяців тому +7

      I went ubuntu then hated canonical so I used debian sud but this year the updates froze to make the testing stable so I went msnjaro and used aur and broke my system... So I installed arch..... Now I proudly say I use ARCH btw...

    • @JoaoVictor-qm2co
      @JoaoVictor-qm2co 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@icantcomeupwithnames469basic logic

  • @vorxsaken15
    @vorxsaken15 2 роки тому +100

    Dude install an os every time he boot his computer, what a chad ...

    • @lenagopakumar1421
      @lenagopakumar1421 2 місяці тому +2

      his name is litterally virtualbox its a vm rly why are you even watching

  • @Liaret
    @Liaret Рік тому +107

    I'm using Gentoo (with custom kernel config, not some genkernel) daily as my work machine. Yes, it took about 3 months to configure and tweak everything, but it's also as fast as slim as I can probably make it.

    • @bruxotlaloc
      @bruxotlaloc Рік тому +7

      You know you can use genkernel to automate the installation and run --menuconfig to configure it before compiling, right?

    • @Liaret
      @Liaret Рік тому +3

      @@bruxotlaloc wdym by automating installation? I wanted to make sure I'm only using kernel flags required by my hardware and use cases, and nothing more.

    • @bruxotlaloc
      @bruxotlaloc Рік тому +6

      @@Liaret by automating install I meant executing all the commands (make, make modules, make modules_install, cp vmlinuz /boot...). You can use genkernel to do that (command is genkernel all). And you can run genkernel with --menuconfig which will prompt the ncurses menuconfig to run before compiling so you can set up your kernel.

    • @Liaret
      @Liaret Рік тому +4

      @@bruxotlaloc Ah, thanks, good to know! I guess I'm still glad I got thru that experience back then, if anything I had to learn more the inner workings of linux and unix OS's. But I'll def use genkernell all in the future.

    • @bruxotlaloc
      @bruxotlaloc Рік тому +3

      @@Liaret I did too! I'm from the time were we didn't have many options to set up stuff. But I'm glad we do have these options today so we can cut a few corners. You might also like to know that you probably have a few kernel configurations in /etc/kernels/ and that you can do make localmodconfig to strip away all unneeded modules from the kernel build. Good luck!

  • @santitabnavascues8673
    @santitabnavascues8673 3 місяці тому +4

    Am I the only to think Arch installation is pure art? That is a Linux in its most refined form, a black screen and almost zero resources wasted. Like an empty canvas ready for whatever you want to put in it

  • @massaynus
    @massaynus Рік тому +12

    It is the fact that he installed Arch off the top of his mind and proceeded to ask about closing the terminal for me

  • @foca2002
    @foca2002 Рік тому +16

    I first used Linux in the late 90s, when I bought a magazine with Slackware 3.5, after that I always believed that Linux only get easier to use with the years.

    • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
      @user-uo8ny1kj4c Рік тому +3

      and you were right! Even the harder distros to use back then are easy to install now. Even slackware nowadays can be installed with ease

  • @fcolecumberri
    @fcolecumberri 2 роки тому +122

    Ok, you loose some swag points for using ext4 instead of btrfs (ext4 is ok, but looses on swag), you didn't create a user for gentoo, therefore after reboot you will be stuck at the login and clearly your make.conf USE flags missed pipewire or pulseaudio (and don't tell me it's a soundless sever, you added alsa). However 9.99/10.

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 роки тому +29

      ALSA alone works just fine 😎
      After reboot, I can login as root and continue configuring.
      I check if btrfs really better, though

    • @fcolecumberri
      @fcolecumberri 2 роки тому +9

      @@Virbox you can login with root? You didn't gave root a password. (I'm just messing with you at this point, it was an aweasome video)

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 роки тому +44

      @@fcolecumberri The password doesn't matter - the PC burnt out 🔥

    • @bacalhau_seco
      @bacalhau_seco Рік тому

      @Xspire why not grub

    • @anatolydyatlov963
      @anatolydyatlov963 Рік тому +1

      @@bacalhau_seco Because it isn't swag. It's all about the swag, bro

  • @noname-chan
    @noname-chan Рік тому +28

    In 2014 I spent 2 weeks to install gentoo and since then my knowledge of linux has almost always increased. Only a year ago I installed this system on my PC as the only one and I can confidently say that it is well configured, works stably and if something breaks I have no problem fixing it, no problem setting up kvm/bluetooth/wifi/clang+musl+libcxx/zfs and a bunch of other stuff. Almost everything shown in the video I either remember by heart or know how to find in a couple of minutes.
    I sincerely sympathize with people who get into this without proper motivation and a good base. If I wasn't an enthusiast, I'd spit on everything myself and use Windows :D

  • @Kneedragon1962
    @Kneedragon1962 2 роки тому +27

    Gentu -> One step above Linux-From-Scratch.

    • @ulcuber
      @ulcuber Рік тому +6

      The upper level the more exp you need between levels. To install LFS you will need twice your exp if you already tried Gentoo

  • @imzesok
    @imzesok 2 роки тому +76

    Arch now has a scripted installer on the iso, you don't have to do all this manually anymore. all you had to do was run 'archinstall', and you just choose your options via the procedural menu, and you're done relatively quickly.

    • @groundfx5733
      @groundfx5733 2 роки тому +55

      this would have been nice to know a month ago

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 2 роки тому +6

      @@groundfx5733 It had been there for a very long time, just a little less fancy and working. Yeah, but it was pretty impossible to find before it got an update and was hyped up. And that happened in like, May? I have used that older version and it could not install a DE, so I had to do a minimal install, and then install a DE myself. It was certainly buggy, but it did the job without me needing to spend hours on the Wiki page.

    • @anatolydyatlov963
      @anatolydyatlov963 Рік тому

      Yeah, sad times :/

    • @jort93z
      @jort93z Рік тому +4

      archinstall never worked for me.
      It gives me a ton of errors every time.
      I heard they made it better since I tried last time, so I tried using it a few days ago. I ended up dicking around with it for literal hours, just the install script crashing and me having to enter the same values again. I then decided to f it and just did it manually. Was done in like half an hour.

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 Рік тому +9

      @@jort93z Have you submitted the bug report?

  • @UltraNyan
    @UltraNyan Рік тому +9

    True sigma installs ubuntu, then uses ubuntu as runtime environment to install gentoo. Booots into gentoo to install the ultimate OS, arch linux.

  • @zer0pointnothing
    @zer0pointnothing Рік тому +7

    arch makes you feel good that you did a thing when you (eventually) set it up right and the way you want it.

  • @Physhi
    @Physhi Рік тому +15

    I only use Gentoo at home. I have a Gentoo server on my personal network so it refreshes and compiles every day at a specific time, my computers x64_86 immediately pick up when their build is ready via simple scripts. I also have other automatic builds for ARM32&ARM64 along with other builds that demand small amount of space. I've always managed to get more space on the internal disks with super small builds.

  • @christianb9077
    @christianb9077 Рік тому +21

    Installing Gentoo has gotten much easier since you don't need to configure and compile a kernel anymore (you can still do it yourself, though). If you just want a running gentoo system and follow the handbook, I guess you could be done installing the base system in about 30-45 minutes; this would leave you with a minimal installation with no desktop environment, no office suite and so on.
    Installing those would of course take a while, depending on your processing power and RAM.

    • @meikala2114
      @meikala2114 Рік тому +1

      I have successfully install gentoo, it took 4 weeks as the compiling took so long at each emerge that that I went away and lived my life, and then eventual remembered.... hmmm I wonder what's next on that install, days could go by between 'teaks' on a plain vanilla install, go away now the law, sleep go to work, one back hmmm, only had one stuff up in the Fstab file, it was pretty plain sailing if Sloooooooowwwwww, old intel Nuc it was,... then tried to install a GUI, plasma, And got a 4 way circular dependency, so at this point I got the gentoo taxidermied and mounted it above the fireplace,

    • @kenbaird7454
      @kenbaird7454 8 місяців тому

      NGL, I don't really see the point installing gentoo without manual kernel configuration, that is one of the main points for using it.

    • @turtlefrog369
      @turtlefrog369 Місяць тому

      he literally used genkernel. but yeah some aspects of gentoo have gotten easier over time. even from 1 year ago til now.

  • @TechnicolorMammoth
    @TechnicolorMammoth 2 роки тому +11

    Ah, I get why you didn’t include LFS. We’d be here for actual hours even sped up.

    • @imzesok
      @imzesok 2 роки тому +9

      of course he could have done it and just saved a lot of our time by starting the chroot, and the jump to a screen saying "one eternity later..." and then jump to the final reboot into LFS. 🤣

  • @joebuydem
    @joebuydem 2 роки тому +127

    The reason unbuntu is used in educational institutions.

    • @seancondon5572
      @seancondon5572 2 роки тому +9

      What? Because you learn NOTHING while installing?

    • @AaronTechnic
      @AaronTechnic 2 роки тому +95

      @@seancondon5572 you know, some people just want to use their computer.

    • @seancondon5572
      @seancondon5572 2 роки тому +4

      @@AaronTechnic those people should be using windows then.

    • @ozerune
      @ozerune 2 роки тому +20

      @@AaronTechnic Mint is better for that than Ubuntu is. Especially if you're using Nvidia

    • @AaronTechnic
      @AaronTechnic 2 роки тому +17

      @@seancondon5572 So you're saying that Linux users must learn how to use the terminal?

  • @peacefulexistence_
    @peacefulexistence_ 2 роки тому +34

    > Uses iwctl to connect to a network but cfdisk to partition

    • @anshiksingh4130
      @anshiksingh4130 2 роки тому

      Nmcli is also good to connect network kid

    • @aarohgokhale8832
      @aarohgokhale8832 2 роки тому +3

      Cfdisk gives you a visual representation which is much nicer to have for something like disk partitioning. Wifi is super basic so just using cli is pretty good

    • @peacefulexistence_
      @peacefulexistence_ 2 роки тому

      @@aarohgokhale8832 Disk partitioning is also pretty basic, so you might as well go all the way

    • @oneandonly_h4
      @oneandonly_h4 2 роки тому +1

      @@anshiksingh4130 Or wpa_supplicant

  • @DelevarOfficial
    @DelevarOfficial 2 роки тому +14

    This video is actually a good install guide lol

  • @shambhav9534
    @shambhav9534 2 роки тому +26

    Arch Linux also features archinstall, which is like any of your standard installer, but in CLI.

    • @coffee-is-power
      @coffee-is-power Рік тому +2

      Not quite, it's pretty customizable and you can use it as a python library to create your own installer.

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 2 роки тому +6

    Even manually installing Kubuntu on a ZFS filesystem is less effort than installing Arch or Gentoo.

  • @gerardoovalle2785
    @gerardoovalle2785 Рік тому +3

    I've been using Ubuntu for years now. It lets me do work. Instead of working on the OS figuring out how to make things happen..
    Ubuntu for actual work is great... That's what I like. I'm sure there are other great distros but that works for me ...

  • @shambhav9534
    @shambhav9534 2 роки тому +6

    Okay, now I know my frustrations with iwctl is universal. Every time I go to install Arch, I feel like I will never be able to connect to my internet every again.

    • @zer0pointnothing
      @zer0pointnothing Рік тому

      when you have to run iwctl several times in a week, it tends to get baked into your brain haha. you end up remembering the commands after awhile. or at least that's my experience.

    • @shambhav9534
      @shambhav9534 Рік тому

      @@zer0pointnothing iwctl station [station] connect [ssd]
      Is that right? I won't bother checking.

    • @zer0pointnothing
      @zer0pointnothing Рік тому +1

      @@shambhav9534 pretty much. and if you know most of the network's name, TAB complete can make it even easier.

  • @Vienna3080
    @Vienna3080 Рік тому +3

    Unrealistic Ubuntu didn’t spontaneously combust for no reason

  • @PascalxSome
    @PascalxSome Рік тому +11

    A Gentoo installation is the first thing our apprentices have to do :) Most of them never used a terminal before.

    • @TheBoostedDoge
      @TheBoostedDoge Рік тому +3

      I feel sorry for them but I feel even more sorry for you, if you're the one teaching

    • @PascalxSome
      @PascalxSome Рік тому +8

      @@TheBoostedDoge Tbh, If you read carefully, and have a motivation to solve problems, it's not that hard. The documentation is really good and the process gives me a lot of feedback about that person. also I want them to ask questions or consult me if they stuck. I just lead them to the answer. I just hate that most of them really stop trying after they fail, and don't even bother to read further or ask.

    • @TheBoostedDoge
      @TheBoostedDoge Рік тому +3

      @@PascalxSome My problem was that I used to hate reading and I'm kinda slow.
      Fortunately my Linux tutor (I'm taking a network\sys admin course) is one of those people who if they see potential in you he won't give up on you.
      I said I feel bad for you bc in my class there are a lot of people who after 50h of straight up linux seems like they haven't learned anything and simply refuse to make a legitimate attempt to learn.
      The thing is, and it's what they don't realize is that it's like you said, if you bother to read and interpret the documentation, it's all there
      Anyway man, best of luck with your apprentices I hope you can get some motivation into them.

    • @PascalxSome
      @PascalxSome Рік тому +2

      @@TheBoostedDoge Thanks, also good luck to your journey! Yeah hope they will too, it can be lots of fun too

  • @Pavel-ix6gd
    @Pavel-ix6gd 5 місяців тому +1

    Just used archinstall script yesterday, took like 1 min to set up and 5 mins to copy files, result is fully working OS with video drivers and gnome/kde

  • @deathmetal10line
    @deathmetal10line 6 місяців тому

    make more like this please. seeing installation in some different speeds makes you feel agitated but enjoyed.installation is an art with its all completeness.

  • @MarshalerOfficial
    @MarshalerOfficial Рік тому +15

    I've managed to get Gentoo goin' in VirtualBox. Yeah it's was complicated as usual but I like typing and feeling a sense of succeeding and scrolling text. I was curious(mostly stemming from WindowsG Electronics and mister Outlaw himself) and thank goodness that my computer didn't explode during the emerge processes.
    My make.conf file was primitive during all of that, MAKEOPTS were set as well as special arguments pertaining for Xorg(post install) and let's not forget USE but everything else was absent.

  • @MK73DS
    @MK73DS 8 місяців тому +1

    Following the magnificent arch wiki installation guide is not hard. It looks hard, but it's not. And it's insightful. I learned so much about how my computer works simply by installing it myself. I know this doesn't make me a developer or a big nerd able to do everything by myself, but at least it gives me the impression to know my machine.

    • @kenbaird7454
      @kenbaird7454 8 місяців тому

      Honestly, how hard it is entirely depends on how well you know the terminal. The hard part is not really following it, its troubleshooting, You have to actually know what the commands do to know how to figure out what you messed up. BUT, if you know your way around the terminal, then yes, it really isn't that bad.

  • @3RR0RNULL
    @3RR0RNULL Місяць тому +2

    “Minimal” my guy that was like 20 packages you installed, minimal arch is like 6 at most.

  • @siriusmart
    @siriusmart 2 роки тому +13

    HOW DARE U USE A WEAK PASSWORD

  • @Cargren18
    @Cargren18 Місяць тому +4

    3:07 Wait a minute he's using Linux Mint

    • @tminhThem80
      @tminhThem80 21 день тому +1

      its cinnamont desktop not mint

  • @chickenman404
    @chickenman404 Рік тому +2

    I do not blame you for seemingly using a VM for Gentoo.

  • @sipsip2367
    @sipsip2367 Рік тому +3

    installing arch can be easy too. for those new users of linux who may take this meme a bit too much literal

  • @Milena-ix5mq
    @Milena-ix5mq 8 місяців тому

    Somehow the sounds played as you were displaying the logos of the distros felt very accurate 😂

  • @StupidusMaximusTheFirst
    @StupidusMaximusTheFirst Рік тому +1

    I love it how the arch hax0r is 'messing with the mirror list'😃 Gentoo music is accurate. 😂

  • @aspiesoft
    @aspiesoft Рік тому +2

    installing gentoo can be helpful if you want to learn how to develop your own operating system

  • @aaaaaa-hh8cq
    @aaaaaa-hh8cq Рік тому +3

    I really like your videos 😂😂😂
    Both educational and funny and you don't waste time on anything 👌🏻❤️ (other than installing arch btw 😁)

  • @Monah1744
    @Monah1744 2 роки тому +8

    Це найкраще відео-порівняння яке я міг бачити за весь час використання мною Arch і Gentoo. Дуже повеселило. Дякую

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 роки тому +1

      Я радий, що вам сподобалося!

  • @B1rtek
    @B1rtek Рік тому +6

    Assuming that you don't have another os installed or mutliple disks, archinstall should help you a lot. Unfortunately, it very often isn't the case...

    • @zer0pointnothing
      @zer0pointnothing Рік тому

      archinstall is only an issue when you want to dual boot on the same drive, since I believe os-prober can still be run and GRUB can be reconfigured after archinstall is done installing on the drive you told it to. But if you are trying to dual boot on one drive, you''re pretty much on your own lol. Correct me if I am wrong, though.

    • @B1rtek
      @B1rtek Рік тому

      @@zer0pointnothing I'm pretty sure that you can't choose a single partition in there, only a single drive, so if you want to dualboot off one, you need to do a manual installation, it won't take much longer compared to archinstall if you know what to do

    • @zer0pointnothing
      @zer0pointnothing Рік тому

      @@B1rtek That's what I meant. On a dual boot situation, you can't use archinstall as easily, because you don't have something like cfdisk, making it less user friendly.

    • @zer0pointnothing
      @zer0pointnothing Рік тому

      Though you technically can, using a built in tool, but for someone who's not used to something like that, it's near impossible.

  • @TheFrantic5
    @TheFrantic5 2 роки тому +2

    It's not a real Arch install until "ILoveCandy" is activated.

  • @akatsuki_mf1177
    @akatsuki_mf1177 10 місяців тому +1

    Love how this is so accurate

  • @deanspanos8210
    @deanspanos8210 2 роки тому +5

    Wake up, Neo.

  • @NotGarbageLoops
    @NotGarbageLoops 7 місяців тому

    Stop it, you're giving me The Craving for a new Gentoo build

  • @mikulasv7293
    @mikulasv7293 2 роки тому +2

    When I installed Gentoo first time, it took me like 2 days. I mean seriously. Even with UA-cam tutorial on phone.

  • @mynameisjesus88
    @mynameisjesus88 2 роки тому +1

    Arch has the archinstall since a bit...this is piece of cake now!

  • @Konslufius
    @Konslufius 10 місяців тому +3

    Bro, Arch feels like a full-blown main-quest line with several side-quests

  • @Mohruebi
    @Mohruebi Рік тому +1

    the weak password is a nice touch

  • @matyi1656
    @matyi1656 7 місяців тому

    I love how Gentoo promises efficiency while also burning shitload of energy to achieve it

  • @Fully_Coded_
    @Fully_Coded_ 9 місяців тому +3

    Just use debian no need to suffer from things that you dont understand

  • @prathameshingale9706
    @prathameshingale9706 2 роки тому +13

    bro, just use archinstall

    • @lamborghinigamer
      @lamborghinigamer 2 роки тому +3

      But it's not the real arch experience :)

    • @vaisakh_km
      @vaisakh_km 2 роки тому +1

      ​@@lamborghinigamer real arch experience we can find on Calamares :)

    • @danny3242
      @danny3242 2 роки тому +1

      Does anyone actually use archinstall

    • @zarkdek
      @zarkdek 2 роки тому +1

      XD not arch experience

    • @NijahPlays
      @NijahPlays 2 роки тому +1

      @@danny3242 Yes, and also, I have done the traditional install many times as well.

  • @fuxi1444
    @fuxi1444 2 роки тому +2

    2 days ago I just decided that it would be fun to make a gentoo VM, it’s my first time with it, howly cow

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus Рік тому

      I'm guessing it's still compiling

    • @user-uo8ny1kj4c
      @user-uo8ny1kj4c Рік тому

      @@plebisMaximus You probably fell for the meme because you wanted to feel superior.

  • @jameslindsayiv4278
    @jameslindsayiv4278 8 місяців тому +3

    1:24 real men use fdisk

  • @micmacha
    @micmacha Рік тому

    The first time I installed Ubuntu, after having messed with Susé and Mandrake in the past, it went so smoothly and quickly I called BS.
    Turned out I was wrong. Everything actually _was_ fine.

  • @panxogaming1782
    @panxogaming1782 7 місяців тому

    Arch install can be terrifying the 1st times, but after running modded steam games having everything mounted correctly is so satisfying xD

  • @gokou0017
    @gokou0017 Рік тому +1

    It's a nice distro until it breaks all of its packages 2 releases up and you have to reinstall to make it normal.

  • @heikkint
    @heikkint 4 місяці тому

    Should have added parts where the camera jumps from the screen and there is some random demon slaughter and then returning back to definitions.

  • @LauLauHip
    @LauLauHip 3 місяці тому

    I am now officially watching from my brand new Gentoo install (It's the first time I ever installed linux). Used systemd and kde plasma, it was a fun experience for sure! Now I just gotta wait for steam to compile lol

    • @aratof18
      @aratof18 2 місяці тому

      gentoo + systemd sounds illegal

    • @LauLauHip
      @LauLauHip 2 місяці тому

      @@aratof18 I'm not bothering with openrc. It takes much more effort to set up and there's no difference in performance anyway

  • @revcliff
    @revcliff Рік тому +4

    Arch isn't that bad, but if I'm looking for "close enough" to vanilla, I just fire up arco. if you remove the arco repo, for the most part, you're back to vanilla arch, but the install was a lot quicker...plus you can set your default and only wm to LeftWM or some other more obscure WM. Gentoo on the other hand does require taking care. if you forget a step (i.e. forgetting about your resolv.conf file or missing a mount point while bootstrapping), you could end up backtracking a bit.

  • @Random0890_
    @Random0890_ 4 місяці тому

    you forgot the part of the linux installation where you forget to install NetworkManager and sudo and have have to go back to the usb drive to install it

  • @awesomethegreatamazing2651
    @awesomethegreatamazing2651 Рік тому +2

    Time to install Linux from scratch now

  • @HermesSilva-xt6dt
    @HermesSilva-xt6dt 4 дні тому

    Being and arch user (Cause I use arch btw) talking about Gentoo feels like being heavy in the TF2 meet heavy video

  • @Linkachus17
    @Linkachus17 Рік тому +1

    yeah I remember completely broke my WiFi hardware (I think it was a switch to turn on WiFi module I guess?) when installing Arch Linux for the first time on host machine (I’ve done it on VirtualBox only)

  • @bearwolffish
    @bearwolffish 5 місяців тому

    1st half a second was the ubuntu install process, rest was waiting for the mouse to move.

  • @-00111
    @-00111 9 місяців тому

    As an Arch user i must tell you that you forgot about problems with installing grub in UEFI mode. Literally, I couldn't get my computer to install grub on UEFI. And on BIOS - no problems

  • @mataznuiz
    @mataznuiz 2 роки тому +4

    is the penguin pigeon in the thumbnail from winged experience lol

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 роки тому +1

      Maybe 👀

    • @mataznuiz
      @mataznuiz 2 роки тому

      i love that channel

    • @mataznuiz
      @mataznuiz 2 роки тому

      u earned a sub

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks and welcome! :D

  • @nightmare_117
    @nightmare_117 Місяць тому +1

    installing Arch is fun, only took 6-7 tries 💀

  • @ernestoditerribile
    @ernestoditerribile Рік тому +1

    you typed network manager wrong in the arch install, Okay Ubuntu is the easiest, but Arch isn't that hard too. Gentoo can be frustrating, but once up and running it is easy to keep it managed well.

  • @Yggdra666
    @Yggdra666 11 місяців тому

    I am watching this while my kernel compiles.

  • @that_guy1211
    @that_guy1211 10 місяців тому +1

    you can also just use the `archinstall` script

  • @dxaniol
    @dxaniol Рік тому +1

    as a gentoo user can confirm thats true

  • @d_sanu
    @d_sanu 8 місяців тому

    Ubuntu codenamed "Jammy Jellyfish" at the beginning of this video 😂

  • @Nicefisher
    @Nicefisher 2 місяці тому

    Ubuntu is to arch what arch is to gentoo
    Source: my eselect profile was trying and failing to compile spidermonkey so I had to switch profiles re emerge every package with new use flags (it's still compiling)

  • @st4rm4st3r
    @st4rm4st3r 2 роки тому +2

    Arch, Gentoo, that's cute, i learned how to install Crux :3

    • @redrush-hp9li
      @redrush-hp9li 2 роки тому

      crux is not difficult to install just follow the manual 💀

    • @st4rm4st3r
      @st4rm4st3r 2 роки тому

      @@redrush-hp9li I did, the manual contradicts itself for VM use :D

  • @taigo5766
    @taigo5766 7 місяців тому

    As a Gentoo user I can confirm I update my system when my room is cold

  • @OfficalKennyMcCormick
    @OfficalKennyMcCormick Місяць тому

    You forgot part when someone gives up installing arch manually and just uses archinstall.

  • @leozarf
    @leozarf Рік тому +1

    Am i the only one to notice that he pinged BAIDU to test the internet connection

  • @404errorpagenotfound.6
    @404errorpagenotfound.6 Рік тому

    How did I know from the title there would be doom metal....I just knew.

  • @HereticRamza
    @HereticRamza 2 місяці тому

    Is there a full version of the song you used for the Arch Linux install? You made it, right? I really liked it. Thank you!

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 місяці тому

      Thank you! It's on Virbox Music channel, the track is Floater

  • @deusdeusasmodeus
    @deusdeusasmodeus Рік тому +1

    what hacker movies use when "hacking".

    • @plebisMaximus
      @plebisMaximus Рік тому +1

      Just the other day I saw some "hacker" b-roll footage, which just showed someone installing vim. It's pretty epic.

    • @deusdeusasmodeus
      @deusdeusasmodeus Рік тому +1

      @@plebisMaximus i saw some movie where a hacker was printing his ping to a server repeatedly 🤣🤣

    • @davidwuhrer6704
      @davidwuhrer6704 Рік тому

      When did they stop using Enlightenment?
      Just doing "ls --color /usr/bin" is enough for things to look like the Matrix to mere users.

  • @lorenzozapaton4031
    @lorenzozapaton4031 10 місяців тому +1

    Now make a video about "installing" LFS, NixOS and OpenBSD.

  • @intergrale4x4
    @intergrale4x4 2 роки тому +5

    Stick Linux Mint on your machines !! Easy and all the hardware can be tested before you comit to the install !! Been using it on all my home machines now for 5 years !! Just try it

  • @ΚωνσταντίνοςΟυρούμης

    archinstall

    • @Virbox
      @Virbox  2 роки тому +12

      Yes but it is not the _true_ way...

    • @hoyteternal
      @hoyteternal 2 роки тому +14

      @@Virbox the true way is lfs, everything else is for normies

    • @radosawpiwowarski8277
      @radosawpiwowarski8277 2 роки тому

      @@hoyteternal docker pull arch:latest

    • @ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432
      @ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432 2 роки тому

      That's for pussies. Real men don't do that. Real men also don't use desktop environments. Heck, I even don't use any bootloader, you have UEFI shell for that.

    • @ionized8744
      @ionized8744 2 роки тому +1

      @@radosawpiwowarski8277 based

  • @dmrzl
    @dmrzl Рік тому +1

    This is clearly missing the 4th part where you just install nixos in 20 seconds and then reinstall it with impermanence just because you can.

    • @hjrgf
      @hjrgf Рік тому

      no its missing the part where you reinstall 10 times to fix an error post install

  • @Yulenka-
    @Yulenka- 4 місяці тому

    Installing Arch or Gentoo seems more complicated, but you only have to do it once. (Re-)installing Ubuntu is just part of using Ubuntu 😅

  • @08ya08
    @08ya08 10 місяців тому

    Have not you build Red Hat kernels back in the days? :) Nice video.

  • @Fizcakesprite
    @Fizcakesprite Місяць тому +1

    I used Arch not even a year into linux, second time using it I did a manual install. (It's not that hard)

    • @unoriginalname3442
      @unoriginalname3442 17 днів тому

      Its not hard if you're jobless or are just doing it for a hobby. Theres no reason to use arch over any other distro; the pacman repo isnt that useful to justify its use. There are are more functional distros that still manage to have an easier installation process than arch. There isn't an execuse anymore

  • @reptilext2658
    @reptilext2658 2 роки тому +1

    when the DOOM music hit.. I knew.. I knew 😂