@@tcp2518able how about in the first episode when reva starts threatening the villagers, out of a crowd of like 20-30 ppl she conveniently picks Owen, probably the one man there that has connection to Kenobi lol I thought it was super far fetched, like winning the freaking lotto
This has Kathleen Kennedy’s fingerprints all over it. It’s like watching Last Jedi all over again with weak scripts, sarlacc sized plot holes, strong female characters who constantly dominate weak male characters and a worn out old Obiwan instead of a worn out old Luke.
Yup, but the blame doesn't end there. Who allows this woman to tear this apart and keep her job? No one likes anything she touches, so why is she still employed? This woke agenda is supported by the studio itself.
The worst thing is: Kenobi was so well known in the Clone Wars for his diplomatic and talking skills. Without even using a lightsaber or a blaster sometimes, he could stop fights before they even happened. That's how he earned the nickname "The Negotiator". Hell, even his flagship was named after him. And now here he is being told and lead around by a 10 year old and exposing themselves to a couple of stormtroopers!!
Tearing down the heroes that men looked up to as boys is a great way to destroy their own sense of heroism and value. I didn’t want to think it, but it looks like this stems from a contempt for men and the male heroic myth. It’s sad that that’s what they think it means to empower women. Men and women both deserve better.
A lot of the bizarre and lamentable stuff about Disney Star Wars makes sense when you consider that it's largely written by left-wing feminists. eg tearing down and embarrassing the traditional male heroes, young Mary Sue female characters, shoehorned diversity
That is entirely what it is about. The entire world view of the people running these franchises is shaped by Marxist critical theory. Their goal is to deconstruct male heros (especially white male heros) for their purpose of building a new mythology where men generally and white men in particular are portrayed unironically as members of an oppressive all powerful patriarchy while at the same time being weak and incompetent. (If white men are weak and incompetent I'm not sure how they created an all powerful patriarchy hell-bent on oppressing women and minorites. But we aren't supposed ask questions like that.) It would just be stupid and funny if their blatant bigotry weren't also incredibly evil.
Isn't sadness, bitterness and resentment the path to the dark side? Kenobi is a Jedi master, not a newbie . Whoever wrote this doesn't seem to know this about the Jedi
excellent comment. I don't care how out of shape Kenobi is. he was still trained as a Jedi and has the force in him. For him not even to sense various things is shameless. Plus, to allow bitterness, sadness to over come him, meand he was never a good jedi in the first place.
Jedi are supposed to USE those feelings of inadequacy to empower themselves, not become completely useless in the heat of battle. Whoever came up with the base story of this show completely fucked it.
The whole "Obi Wan has given up" thing would make more sense if he wasn't adamant in the first episode about training Luke (while arguing with Owen). How is he planning on training anyone when he's buried his lightsaber, stopped using the force, and become a weak old man? And the point about him being too weak to protect Luke is a great one. If he felt that responsibility then how in the world could he let himself become SO vulnerable? (Except against non-Force users, then he's basically John Wick until the plot decides he isn't)
Yep. Every other error aside, this is the biggest glaring mistake in the whole thing so far. If Obi's entire reason for being there is to watch over Luke, protect and then train him, why the hell would he let both his force powers lapse AND bury his sabre somewhere? If at any point the Empire, bounty hunters or whoever could waltz up to the ranch, what was his plan exactly? The worst Star Wars show to date. Frustrating to watch.
Also we know he does end up training Luke in A New Hope and he's still in touch with the Force in that movie. We know that the narrative is just going to end up returning to the status quo by the end of the series which makes the whole narrative completely pointless. It's like this show was literally created just so they could give Obi Wan the Last Jedi Luke Skywalker treatment.
@@Intel13thGenBurns honestly I don't think Star Wars can be saved the amount of flaws shown here yet all the fanfare as kenobi runs from Vader and the most annoying defense "the lore never said this couldn't happen"(including Leia,Obi the coward,leaving Tatooine,etc)
Precisely. He’s not in a position to give up - people are depending on him. The fact he hasn’t trained for 10 years is a dereliction of duty that I don’t see as being redeemable.
@@teamtx1578 I'm confused. You're mad, because they gave a realistic period of Kenobi's life where he is depressed, and ridden with PTSD while all by himself on a dead end desert planet. And you think it's bad that they're making a show to show how he comes out of that depression, and later becomes the Obi-Wan we know in A New Hope? If your argument is well 'we know how he turns out' You must have hated the prequels cause we know Anakin turned out. There is a good amount of flaws in the show, I do not understand the people who hate that Obi-Wan is depressed, or has PTSD however. That is what you should have been expecting, especially even in Legends Obi-Wan was very depressed for a good amount of time on Tatooine.
I love how Disney thinks igniting a lightsaber is so special and theatrical. In the OT, Kenobi uses his lightsaber in public in broad daylight in a crowded bar to chop a nobody’s arm off surrounded by an imperial search party.
Think about with all the Jedi exterminated, how many Lightsabers would be circulating or even reverse engineered. Kenobi probably knew that none of those criminals would talk to the cops, even if they believed that the old man could be the last Jedi in existence. It didn’t even start a bar brawl.
Kenobi was in the process of leaving Tatooine. He didn't care who saw him because he wouldn't be sticking around for long. I am not defending Disney here, just making a point.
@@WorldPeace21 excellent point, he knew his destiny as soon as Luke’s adopted family were killed. I just want Ben to use that saber, instead of using a human shield and a blaster.
Three moments in episode 1 has me eye rolling. 1. The runaway Jedi pulling down two fabric sheets draped over some sticks as an obstacle to slow down the inquisitors... One of whom proceeds to walk straight through it. 2. The kidnapper that is walking after Leia who then proceeds to walk into a chest level branch and blurt out a pained sound as if he was hurt by the 2mph collision. 3. Some dumb random Jedi runaway tracks down and confronts Obi Wan without any explanation but the entire Sith order has spent 10 years getting nowhere in trying to track him. 😐
Also how they showed order 66, irl you would get how the jedi got beat since the clones have more numbers, but in the obi wan show a fucking jedi got killed by 2 clones! Like wtf you are a jedi who blocks blasters like you blink your eyes!
To be fair, the Fifth Brother actually had to walk AROUND the fallen canopy, thus delaying him for 1/2 more second, allowing the clever Jedi to completely get away.
Well even according to IMDb, this isn’t Kenobi’s show. They list the actress playing Leia before Ewan. He doesn’t even have top billing over a nobody on his own show.
Honestly, I'm now at the point that I blame the actors too. You know the script, you know what they're doing. If you take the check, you're as colpable as any other producer, director, writer. I mean, I understand the nobody who's trying to make it, but I have no more patience for the big names. So, F Ewan as well 😑🤣
And he is a producer on the show. What the hell does that tell you. Disney turned him into the cuck bitch they always wanted and he is just blindly allowing the character assassination and going along with it.
IMDb is a representation of top billing, nor is it an official Hollywood device. This probably the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a long time- besides this video. Leia is at the top because she was added later to hide that she was in the show. Yikes
Mind blowing they waste over 20 million per episode but cannot afford any writers of talent or someone who understands Star Wars and has a direction for the series or at least someone with common sense for this once great franchise.
Yep. The people behind this show obviously don't care about Star Wars. They're just a bunch of spiteful, self absorbed hacks messing around with something they don't care about or understand.
@@tipsyt1909 Filoni is tremendously overrated, and you'd think Book of Boba Fett would have made that apparent to anyone paying attention (not to mention his perpetual wank to golden child Ahsoka, even transferring so much connection to Light and Balance from the Skywalkers to her over and over again). But even if this were not the case, Filoni has no involvement with the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. He is not a writer, not a producer, not an executive producer, not the director. In fact, interviews with director and showrunner Deborah Chow and Kathleen Kennedy indicate that writers were told specifically to shy away from linking Kenobi to The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett.
I find it hilarious that anyone thought they would make a show that had any respect for the characters or audiences. Have you not been paying attention? Stop giving money to these people.
@@jacksamson1239 Anyone who thinks they're sticking it to Disney by watching the show through illegal means is the real fool because THEY'RE STILL WATCHING THE GARBAGE SHOW.
Yeah it’s disgusting, can’t believe they’re still doing it but I am glad to see that the fans are actually calling it out for once instead of just eating it up because it has a Star Wars sticker slapped on it
@@bruhdon4748 nah, im still seeing plenty of star wars channels with with super excited reviews for this show. The people who are saying its crap are the same people who have been saying it all along. I haven't seen any new voices calling them out.
Every strong male character that is brought back becomes sad and lonely: - Jake Skywalker in the Last Jedi - Boba Fett in the Book of Boba - Han Solo in The Force Awakens Same thing with Marvel, make the male characters weak, sad, lonely, and pining for a woman.
Tbf Boba didn't have much character it was the mystery and the design of his character why he was cool but Disney decided to make his character boring and weak to make other characters in his own show look better. Disney doesn't care for the IP they know they can make whatever they want and it will still sell because it is Disney they basically own everything
@@lumeronswift Yeah or Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul, the awesome mindblowing stuff they do in those shows, the creators must know how to run a successful drug business or get out of anything in court.
I don't understand why everyone expected anything else from Disney... Here's how it looks to me. These characters are symbols of hope and inspiration. Disney writes characters in a way that takes the inspiration out of them, leaving you uninspired and unmotivated. There's something sinister going on with Disney.
there's something sinister going on at disney because your favorite kids movie character has realistic ptsd and has to go through a run of the mill character arc
Obi Wan was the ultimate "I will do what I must" character. Wallowing in pity and despair is a flagrant retcon of his entire persona. Having regret is one thing, but he wouldn't abandon his duty to protect others, preserve the Jedi way, and serve the greater good. His feelings on the state of the universe or the state of his own being would always come second. This is why this series is a non-starter for me as is most of the Disney SW lineup. They don't understand the IP, they just us its framework as a skin-suit to serve their own narcissistic and childish desires. It's pathetic and downright disrespectful.
Yep this is Obi-Wan, a guy who did not get wrapped up in romantic entanglements no matter what his feelings because of his Devotion to the Jedi Order, that guy! Just completely renounces the Jedi like every other idiot, so-called Jedi that Disney Star Wars writes, let's not forget the completely mind-numbing story of how Kylo Ren and a handful of Jedi (that joined him because reasons) managed to kill some 50 apprentices and set the temple on fire, all while Luke is unconscious for some minutes not to mention even if they had more time it would still be the dumbest thing ever
Quality aint Dead though: Not only do with always have the Classics, like ST-Next-Generation or Cliffside or Internection-Cube, but we also get new good things like AMphibia or Owl House or Learning with Pibby.
I thought it was ridiculous that Reva could 'mind-read' Haja to figure out where Kenobi was headed, but she conveniently couldn't read Owen's mind even though Obi-Wan was literally a couple meters away lol
@@kevinwilson455 Right. I don't think Disney understands what the force is, and more importantly, they haven't defined a ceiling on what kind of powers it grants. They use it willy-nilly to cover for their weak writing, and it shows.
It is a sad event when there are clearly writers who can not write a children's book with crayons, writing a Star Wars story. This is a prime example of how substandard the writing is, actors who have to do their best with the script they are given, and an Executive Producer running the helm and screwing it up (again).
they are not screwing it up. They are destroying men cuz they are feminist. They don't care about money, but you better not take their money away. all a bunch of communist
I watched 5 min of Kenobi and my head was about to explode on how stupid it was. Kenobi was at some planet with young Leia and she convinced him to go on some transport driven by a mole guy then he slips up talking in front of a storm trooper squad that hitched a ride for no good reason, then he talks openly about being a Jedi in front of the driver 5 feet away, then they get betrayed by the mole but the officer of the new squad was actually helping the Jedi although how did she become a platoon leader??? Then they go to some repair shop and Kenobi acts like a pussy when Vader comes but is saved by some chick who shot like one shot and a whole platoon of storm troopers and Vader just kind of stop fighting. It was all so contrived it made my head hurt.
The laser gate is literally right out of Blazing Sadles. "The LePetomain through-way!? Aww what'll that @sshole think of next?" Does anyone got a dime!? Someone's got to go back and get a shot load of dimes!
I agree. That chase in the woods scene was written like it was a comedy scene in a children's television show,. All that was missing was quirky chase music.
I cant believe that people behind this show looked at the Leia chase scenes and agreed that everything is fine with them, are there any writers or directors working there or just woke activists?
It seemed like a live action bit from rebles. It was dumb, but it didn't bother me much. They got her and ransomed her to get obi and it worked. Good enough for me.
The part when the woman literally sees the branch, observes the branch, figures out what species of tree the branch belongs to & some how manages to speed walk into the branch and be knocked on her ass???
Totally agree…my thing is he’s so adamant about training Luke when he’s of age…wtf is he gonna train him to do? Run from a fight? How not to use the force??? How to live like a hermit?
Yeeeeah, I was of the mind that Kenobi had to suppress his Force connection in order to survive post-Order 66, but if that were the case, how could he hope to commune with Qui-Gon, and what would he have left to eventually teach Luke? :/ I want to give this show my benefit of the doubt so much, but the cracks grow bigger the more I think about it... which I guess in Kathleen Kennedy's eyes makes me a sexist, racist, etc...
I love how Kenobi walks around with an open carry light saber and in a robe which practically all Jedi wears in all of the SW movies. “Oh, I am a farmer, and we are just on a tourist trip in this random mine planet, because that is what farmers do, traveling around in random industrial zones for fun”
Then again, I live in a state that until more recently, people open carried AR-15s in Walmart. If it helps, his light saber is shaped like a miniature hookah.
In the duel on Mustafar, Lucas actually added the moment--and in doing so explained and made canon--that two powerful force user can't just toss, push, grap, choke, etc. each other willy-nilly. There's the moment when both Anakin and Obi-Wan reach back and attempt to force push simultaneously, both of them digging in and focusing hard, but neither get any effect. Also, if we think of a scene like the fight between Yoda and Dooku, or even Luke and Vader in TESB, they/he throw inanimate objects around, but never use the force directly on their opponents. Force lightning seems to be the best technique for attacking other forces users.
isn’t there the chance that because Obi-Wan is rusty, he couldn’t utilize his force the same way to prevent himself from being grabbed? i think their first encounter played out relatively well given that vader has been slaying jedi and the show established Obi-Wan has been in hiding without training. Would I have preferred if it was a bad ass fight between them? of course, but i still think that will come
This is what I used to love about SW, just digging in to the mountain of lore and the rules of the universe. It's fun escapism. Can't do it with the new shite, it'll leave you sad and confused.
@@nick72799 well no, because they've already shown Obi-wan successfully use the Force to save Leia from falling. And even taking on the five armed Stormtroopers and the probe Droid, like they were nothing, just earlier that very same day. So perhaps this implies his Jedi powers no longer work at night? Perhaps that's when his 'self pity levels' are highest and he becomes impotent?
They did the same thing to Loki in his show. Literally just isn’t evil anymore not as clever. Not as good of a fighter. Wtf is happening to these beloved characters :(
One thing which I really hope they explain, is the fact that in A New Hope, the exchange between Vader and Kenobi "When i left you i was but the learner, now I am the master", or "A presence i havent felt since..." the first of which just makes Vader look like a forgetful moron if he cant remember him clapping Kenobi's cheeks as a clear master of the force over Kenobi as seen in the show
@Logan Draper Most of the old men I know are capable of kicking serious arse, one way or another. One of the thing that makes an aging or old character interesting is how they compensate for increasing debility.
I think the fact that he keeps using a blaster is insane. They've already established that he hates guns. Legit why isn't he using his wits and skills in the force more than blasting things
Because the last thing he wants to do is draw attention to himself. He went to Tatooine to hide and protect Luke, not draw attention to himself by using the force and using a lightsaber.
@@turtlebot323 I never said he didn't have to use it in life or death situations, just that his primary reasons for not using them were to hide himself and protect Luke.
When he misspoke and said "Leia" in front of the stormtroopers, I facepalmed so hard. Like bro... you literally had one job. Edit: I also totally expected him to struggle and pull off a mind trick in that scene. It would have been awesome. My expectations were subverted masterfully.
Obi Wan Kenobi is insulting to those of us who have been fans of the Star Wars franchise since the OT/PT trilogies. I completely forgot episode 3 even dropped that’s how little I cared for this show. XD
Agreed. This show is absolutely pathetic and it’s aggravating that people think that this is good. The only thing this show has going for it are the performances and even that is hit or miss at times.
@@chasehedges6775 The only characters I actually cared about where the returning ones from the Prequel Trilogy. Even then it’s not the same since I know George Lucas isn’t creating Star Wars anymore and this is nothing more than Disney shoving politics into everything. Lol
You know what’s hilarious? We’re actually going to NEED a Kenobi show after this show. One to explain how he bounced back from being a sad old fart to being the Jedi Master who beat Darth Maul in three moves because it was his freaking job, and he was the top Jedi of the age who was able to be on guard duty and still be deadly.
I still don't accept the fact that he's basically Jake Skywalker now. Obi Wan is, for better or worse, the poster child of Jedi perseverance. That man has lost everything in the pursuit and protection of the light, and you're telling me he just wanted to throw the only hope he has of a new Jedi knight (A New Hope, if you will), all for the sake of some sad-sads? I'm not complaining that Obi Wan falling to hard times is outright impossible and it should never happen. It's that Obi Wan falling to hard times misses the whole point of why Obi Wan is such a great character. We want to see Obi Wan conquer his demons the only way he knows how: his wits, his skills, and his trust in the Force. The fact that he needs to be lectured back into this mindset with nary a detailed explanation shows how little they actually cared for this character. Mando was a cynical plug to other shows, BoBF was a cynical plug to other shows, and Kenobi would no doubt be similar. Fucking wonderful, Dave Filoni and the rest of Lucasarts are charlatans.
Unlike Jake Skywalker, I am prepared to give them some credit for Jake Kenobi so long as his arc brings him back to Obi Wan Kenobi by the end of the series. Everything he stood for and believed in was torn down by the rise of Palpatine and the Empire.
Pretty sure that's what this show is doing. Hasn't finished yet so i guess we'll see, but you people ( just grouping you in with other comments I've seen with similar views ) have this view that Ob1 is being written extremely inept and stupid. We are not watching the same show clearly. The writings not great but passable thus far and seems to be on par with Star Wars. I say this as a huge fan. Also I think they're doing a good job with depicting an Ob1 10 years after Rots. He's fucked up with ptsd. It makes since considering all that happened. I've seen what that does to people.
@@wojak-sensei6424 they've shown Obi Won in the Star Wars Clone Wars show on hard times and caught up in his feels, but he was still dignified. He lost a woman he loved (against Jedi tradition) and got caught up in the feels. Still pulled himself together because he had a mission and he's General f***ing Kenobi, ya know
@@ItWillBeSteve yes and no. I personally think the writers aren't doing a good job here. Very little of it makes sense with this character specifically. I will warn you, as a super fan myself, to not get caught with Rose tinted glasses. Nostalgia is a powerful tool that can usually trick people into accepting poor plot lines and bad writing. Ewen McGregor coming back is helping to do just that. For a prime example, look at The Phantom Menace. when it came out, people lined up for litteral miles to see it and EVERYONE was saying how amazing and awesome it is and it's so cool etc etc... a few months-years pass then Suddenly that movie began to suck... the movie didn't change at all, its just that people realized what they got and weren't happy. Midochlorians, the pod race, the child actor that set a precedent of needing to be a bad actor in order to play Anakin, etc etc etc
Yeah, part of the problem is giving it attention. It's just trash. We all know what Disney is going to produce, so lets stop talking about it and consuming it. I'd rather talk about old movies or books.
They are also building a terrible gap between the Obi-Wan we see in Episode 3 and 4. At least according to Lucas, Obi-Wan was still supposed to be Vader's superior when they meet in a New Hope, now if they are to maintain continuity, this re-development of Obi-Wan will have to happen off screen. Obi-Wan was supposed to be training to commune with QGJ this entire time on Tatooine, instead we see him failing at. Instead of growing into a Yoda-style jedi master ready to train Luke when the time is right, he's a pathetic has been, this is awful.
I mean there's still three episodes left, so who's to say that Kenobi won't change drastically by the last episode. I mean they're clearly building up for a character arc here, and seeing as Filoni is credited (just a thanks, but he's usually an advisor on these things) I'd be surprised if the whole point of the series wasn't for Kenobi to end up as the focused and wise man we see in both ep.4 and his appearance in the 'Rebels' cartoon which is set about a year or two before ep.4. Maybe we should wait for the conclusion of the series before we consider it a failure? Yes, they could blow it and leave us with "Jake Kenobi", but its just as likely that they'll leave us with the Ben Kenobi we have in ep.4. Lets not be overly cynical just because there's a lot of trash being made these days.
But, but, we still have 3 episodes for him to become an master again! 😋 Seriously though I agree with everything you said. Ben Kenobi's episode of Rebels was so awesome because he WAS that person we knew he would become with years of one-to-one training with Qui Gon. The sort of person who had come to terms with the mistakes of the past and was focused on the future and the part he would play in that. A person so in tune with the force that he knew exactly how things would play put and was able to vanish and be totally absorbed in to the force effortlessly. He was the first person in the Galaxy to do that. Although...who wants to bet that the season ends with Qui Gon appearing in the last scene, and all that development takes place offscreen (again).
@Cancer Sauce @MrZkinandBonez Yeah, that would all make sense, except this is an interquel about a major, central character of two trilogies, not a totally fresh origin story on a minor, undeveloped character. If you can't develop a character without brute forcing an arc of "incompetent buffoon to wise hero", when said character has already chronologically been a victorious galactic general, and heroic jedi knight for multiple stories, then you're awful at writing characters, full stop. Not every story can or should be an origin story, and not every origin story can or should even be the exact same arc.
Its like they havnt even watched the films - remember Kenobis iconic line from a new hope; 'The force will be with you, always!' This series Kenobi has kinda forgot how to use the force!
By the time Yoda dies in return, along with the ending of episode 3 where they are "supposed" to learn communing with the dead and life extension techniques, where it's implied that their age and use of the techniques diminish the overall potentcy they wield. Even in spite of this, yoda's "long have I watched this one" implies the functional scrying he's doing over luke, like he did with anakin. Which implies he also was watching over leia "no there is another" (which the this TV series is retroactively fucking up that scene). It's all a hot mess.
"Leia needs protection as much as Luke" Isn't that why Kenobi entrusted Leia to his trusted ally Bail Organa so that she has the protection of the Alderan royal family so that he was free to keep watch over Luke??! Ive not watched this show yet, but its not looking promising, other than for disappointment. Thanks Disney.
Yeah, is he not the king of an entire planet and a member of the galactic Senate? He literally has the entire planet's population as his command and limitless numbers of people to protect her. Luke only had his anonymity and Ben Kenobi to protect him.
Yeah. Apparently Bail got retarded. Sending the Empires most wanted person after Leia is not a smart thing by anyones standards. Dude has an entire planet, he has money so he could buy Mercs or bounty hunters to get them. Nobody's gonna find out about her heritage, there's hundreds of trillions of beings in the galaxy, why would anyone piece that about Leia? And Kenobi knows where Luke and Yoda are, so if he gets tortured and he spills his guts, then goodbye any hope of restoring the Jedi order ever again.
That line was a Kathleen Kennedy feminist moment. Leia is just as important as Luke. You know women are just as important as men don't you? They are hitting the audience over the head with that in a not so subtle way.
@@STONESGAM yes except it makes no sense since technically Leia was better protected than Luke ever was. Kathleen Kennedy was a poor choice to take over Lucas arts. Political motivation should never take priority from creativity and imagination in cinema.
To be fair, Luke ceased being important in any way (same with his dad) when the Sequels undid his entrie accomplishments and turned him into a miserable old man, all to make his replacement Mary Rey Sue Palpatine the true hero of the entire Skywalker story. By a lesser extent it also makes Obi-Wan a totally pointless character as he trained two characters that in the grand of scheme of things did jack shit by the end. So really when you think about it, what's even the point of making a show about Obi-Wan? Other then of course promoting up diversity hire inquisitor woman.
YEP! You could remove Luke from the saga and it wouldn't really change anything! He killed a single Emperor clone and helped blow up the death star, but the Empire/First Order just returned in like 20 years and destroyed the planets using Star Killer Base anyway... Then he refused to even help REY with Force Training, leaving Leia to train her. And then REY was the one who finally killed the REAL emperor and actually reunited the Galaxy at the end of Rise of Skywalker... So as Bail said "It was NEVER ABOUT THE BOY", and Luke didn't really save anyone...
You seriously think they made this show so they could add one black female to lore? Jesus Christ dude it’s not that deep. People love Obi wan and Ewans performance so they made a show and happened to add a black female and that pisses you off. Pathetic. You guys just look for anything resembling diversity and scream “wokeness” when it’s not there. You just want it to be to support the narrative. Is Hollywood too woke? Yes it is. Is this a woke hire or in anyway pushing a diversity agenda? Not at all, her race and gender haven’t been discussed whatsoever. If it was woke it would be every third sentence talking about how much harder her life is.
The second they brought Palpatine back is the second Luke’s sacrifices & Vaders sacrifice of saving his son and restoring balance to the force become redundant, the whole point of the OT and the prequels is completely scrubbed away.
Perhaps Luke used The Force to break the 4th wall and see what Disney was doing to the franchise and lore. That's the only thing that could explain why he gave up.
Here is why Kennedy said the early scripts were “wrong”. It probably showed Obi-Wan as he should be and black female Mary Sue didn’t have a huge role. Kennedy hates strong male characters. She and her ilk loves to tear them down to elevate the female characters. I hate it. As a woman, I want to see strong men and women alongside each other, like the movies and shows I grew up with. Lucas made a huge mistake in letting Kennedy be the boss of LucasFilms.
Yeah I agree .Edge of tomorrow with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt is a good example of a strong male and female character working together.They were also well written characters.
@@KSmithwick1989 He was weak and inept at the beginning, and then underwent a character arc where he found his strength and courage and became a leader and a hero; the antitheses of the Mary Sue female characters that are dominating the current landscape and make it impossible to care about them.
The best part is when Third Sister is at the end of the secret one way tunnel beating Leia somehow, who had a 10 min head start... absolutely fcking genius level directing. 👏
It's crazy that ten years ago a "Obi Wan vs Vader" prequel would have been one of the biggest movies of all time. Now it's episode 3 of a mediocre TV show.
The writers are trying to write a character that has had a massive mental shock. Someone who has relied on faith their entire lives but now has lost their conviction. The problem is they themselves have faith in nothing and lack the ability and skill necessary to pull it off.
I agree, they’re trying to show him as still shocked that the Jedi failed and evil has taken over. But the problem is he’s going to have to make some changes in his character in this series to tie him up with ep IV Kenobi, who wasn’t at all like that
So the reason they basically nerfed him and had him regress is much the same reason they did it with Luke. Firstly, it was to denigrate and tear down the old character, and secondly because they don't know how to write a powerful character. One of the problems they mentioned in interviews with the original writer of the sequels (who was let go while the project was still in pre-production) was that he was having the problem where as soon as these powerful, competent characters like Jedi Master Luke showed up all the problems were solved. They had no idea how to make a conflict that was on the new characters' level but still involve the OT guys in the story. So they solved it by stripping them of all their power and authority. Han is no longer a general (and was never the galaxy-class diplomat he became in the EU) and is back to grifting; Leia is no longer a Senator (and never was the chancellor or premier or whatever that she was in the EU) and is just back to running a little band of rag-tag soldiers in a hopeless situation (somehow), and Luke is no longer Grand Master Luke (and the Jedi were never resurrected like they were in the EU) and he's back to living in the middle of bum-fuck nowhere and impotently griping about everything. They couldn't handle those characters and the competence and intelligence they would have brought to the table and so had to dumb everything down to a level they COULD manage. Same thing now with Obi-Wan. We know what he was before this, we know what he was after this. Hell, in Rebels we see him pretty much JUST after this (I'm pretty sure that's still canon, right?). But the writers can't handle competent Obi-Wan so we get whoever this retard is.
I mean if you assume that ANH is the golden standard of Star Wars writing you're not gonna go far in scriptwriting. Lucas got around that issue by changing the stakes. Anakin was so incredibly powerful but that was exactly his downfall. Upping the stakes is bog-standard writing.
@@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564 I'm not advocating for Dragon Ball-Z power escalation or anything like that. It's less a matter of power levels than it is just competence, which is a very different thing. But mostly I'm criticizing them for not having the imagination to create a scenario that new, entry-level characters could solve without the OT guys stealing the show. I can think of any number: the old guys are distracted with some other crisis, or they're too comfortable resting on their laurels after decades of peace, or the situation the newbies are sent to deal with turns out to be much worse than previously thought, etc. etc. In any case, power escalation is the path they chose anyway. Remember the Death Star? Here's an even biggerer Death Star! Remember the Emperor? Here's an even eviler Emperor! The sequels are garbage from any angle. I expect little more from these shows.
Aside from the malicious deconstructing of our beloved film heroes, I am just astounded at the sheer lack of talent from these so called professional writers. Here I am, just some shmuck who works in retail working his butt off to make his own sci-fi series, raking over everything he wrote multiple times over so that it is good enough for him, much less for people he'll pitch it to, and over at Disney, they just shit out awful scripts and call it a day. This really pisses me off how lazy they are.
@@tommymarco Hey thanks. That means a lot. I don't know how well it will turn out, but rest assured, it will likely turn out better than most of the crap Hollywood is churning out these days.
@@MaesterMike Always a pleasure . i feel it will turn out well . we are missing original ideas these days . yours will most definitely be infinitely better than anything hollywood pushes out these days . their movies are really easily forgettable . i even find most films on youtube better than hollywood , as you know it is made for the love of making films : )
They are giving Kenobi the Jake Skywalker treatment, though people are trying to justify it by saying he has PTSD. What the problem with this is that how is Kenobi supposed to protect Luke, if he can’t even defend himself?
Yoda also had a PTSD and didn’t use the force for like 20 years and he managed to lift an X-wing easily. The writers had no excuse to make Obiwan this way. This is just lazy.
Those people are sheltered narcissists, because that's not what PTSD is. PtSD puts you back in the moment, makes you relive the trauma whenever exposed to stimuli that reminds you of it. Obi-Wan should be whipping his lightsaber out every five seconds, at the smallest thing, if it was PTSD, but no, it's just modern trash millennial writing, where everyone has to be sad and emotional, because the writer is an emotionally stunted child.
Well, this sucks. I exclaimed "this is utter garbage" after ep 3, but my kids are enjoying themselves, and wifey says "oh dear, they just aimed this series at kids" (despite my daughter freaking out when they showed the most violent scene in all star wars: anakin on fire with no legs). I was like "meh, ok maybe it will improve, and for that matter, basically everything in star wars history makes absolutely no sense, so its just more of the same". Then wifey sends me this video, which basically confirms everything i was complaining about verbatim.
The "its for the kids" thing doesnt really work well when they showed him snapping kids necks and dragging Obi Wan through fire, though I attribute that to the moron writers having no idea how to show something as evil besides in the most blatant ways.
@@pete3011 Yeah my brother said "they made it for kids" and I was like bro? they just showed a kid's neck getting audibly snapped? I don't think that's a great thing for kids to watch
Well, in fairness, a strong, noble white male character like Obi Wan remaining strong and noble in the show that bears his name would've been pretty damn depressing to KK.
Let's keep in mind that this entire arc is inconsistent with Obi-wan's *CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.* He was resolved to protect Luke no matter what at the end of *Episode 3.* (He had just defeated Vader BTW) By the time *Star Wars Rebels* plays out he gets serious when Darth Maul threatens to take *Luke* and kills *Maul* in a few moves. Somehow between both Episode 3 and Rebels he becomes a complete husk of a Jedi. They clearly want to portray all the OG characters as mentally broken. If *Mace Windu* somehow survived getting thrown out the window and electrocuted I would wager they would have him living out a halfway house addicted to spices and cut off from the force. If *Yoda* never died they would have had him living homeless on the streets of *Tatooine* begging for credits to eat day to day. OG Characters get treated so badly by Disney.
There are so very many, “A better story to tell here would be…” Like “Book of Boba Fett,” the large pieces are there, and a great story could be told here with stronger writers…. Hell; they could even push, “The MeSsAge!” IF it was wrapped in a strong enough story. Can you imagine if Kenobi was tripled down on training, turning himself into a weapon and part of his arc was realizing Luke needs to grow up and be a kid before any training is started AND needs to idolize the hero Anakin was before being told who Vader used to be. You could push anti-“toxic-masculinity” and push a Vader and Kenobi fight that has them beyond where they are in Revenge of the Sith to imply there were reasons they were pussyfooting around each other on the Death Star. Add some “Sith Training” scenes with Vader and Palpatine where he chastised Vader for thinking and fighting too much like a “Jedi” to make that “I was but a learner,” work. Jedi Master vs Sith Apprentice -
They HAD to put Leia in, even with a shoehorn...that's why from the start they established that she knew she isn't Organa...why? why does she know that? why did they tell her?...it's just convenient...if she was 100% Organa she wouldn't have been in this series.
@@jorghaltehreffkyan4190 Ironically the light side is basically Yin and the dark side is Yang. Long story, the force is primarily based on Chinese Daoism. Which focuses on masculine and feminine energies.
@@TheRonaldbaxter - Except the first time we ever saw stormtroopers. They board the Tantive IV and blast their way through the rebel defenders. After that the only achievements of the stormtroopers, such as taking Echo Base, happens offscreen. It bothers me because heroes look far less heroic when their opponents are so easy to defeat.
Insane that the same guy who fought general grievous without hesitation and held his own against Anakin in his prime is now terrified to fight slow ass Darth Vader
I can see why Tom Cruise came out and admitted that he didn’t want to do a Top Gun sequel. Hollywood is destroying all of these masculine classic characters.
Top Gun: Maverick is a great example of what happens when people who have actual talent and love their work bring back beloved characters. The whole thing with Disney Star Wars is a great example of what happens when no-talent hacks and people who love their "agendas" bring back once-beloved characters.
How is obi wan destroyed in this show? He seems to be reacting more or less how he should given everything that's happned. Or did you want snippy one liners and jumping from cars? Cause this isnt the buddy cop movie Obi we got from the prequels. This is the obi who failed his best friend, watched his whole life and reason for living be destroyed and defamed. Did yall just want a campy romp thru the outer rim?
@@oldlavygenes I agree with you 100%. “Joker” & the the newest Spider-Man movie got banned in China and look at how much both of those films made. A lot of these big budget films are being made to target the Chinese market. The people of China don’t care about story, character development, etc. That’s why the Transformer movies have huge plot holes lol! The American people want good story, character development, etc. Look at the original Independence Day movie. Awesome story and characters. Now look at the crappy sequel, pure garbage! Funny thing is that movies make a lot of their profit from the concessions as well. Now there’s a shortage of movie popcorn in theaters lol! Hollywood can thank Joe for that.
The saddest, and most maddening, part of how The Mouse has sullied SW, is how there are STILL people who will gobble up whatever SW content Disney drops regardless of it's quality, citing every possible excuse. Disney needs a comparable drop in subscriptions as Netflix has if a message is to be received that they need to try a little harder. Not that it matters much now.
Whatever man, i’m pretty sure if you can’t enjoy something yourself it’s your own problem, not mine. I wasn’t a fan of the sequels, but I ain’t taking the morally superior high ground over it. The shows on the other hand have been good. Mando was good, Boba was good (although a slow burn), and i’m enjoying Kenobi. I don’t think you lot will ever be happy.
@@connoranderson7432 nothing to do with moral high ground, but simple economics of supply and demand. The audience is demanding things like respecting legacy characters, logical narratives, smart dialogue with subtext, etc. Disney is not supplying that. My point is to hold content producers accountable and hit them where it hurts: subscribers. Better content won't happen until this message is sent. But to each their own, I guess. If vapid, mediocre content is your thing, more power to you for being able to shut your brain off. Enjoy :)
I think people are still holding out that it will improve, that Jon Favreau will (or might) be able to salvage it. I hope he does but I hold out little hope.
So with this version of Kenobi, how does Obi Wan kill Maul so easily in the timeline when Rebels happens? Because right now this version of Kenobi would have a hard time beating an old and worn out Maul. Or did Disney decide to off Rebels into "Legends" because they didn't create? One of the worst aspects of Walt Disney is really showing up here. Take something that is someone else work and total change it to what they want.
@@kal0247 True, I remember getting pissed when that happened. Like oh cool he is in here let's see what happens and NOPE he is dead. There are some theories going around that grand inquisitor survives and it changes him or something like that. We will see what happens in the next episodes.
@@kal0247 Presumably he survived and is just in a bacta tank somewhere so the writers could get him out of the way. Rebels takes place after this so he must have recovered.
They did the same thing in Wheel of Time, a character who’s a stoic killing machine, turning him into crying wuss who is completely incompetent. It’s the only way males are allowed to be written. That’s why Top Gun did so great. Everyone (yes men and women) are pining for a male character who is manly and kicks ass.
I went into that show with low expectations and it was still a bitter disappointment. I busted a gut laughing when Lan tore his shirt open at the funeral. It reminded me of when Andy Dufresne finally made his way out of the sewage pipe in Shawshank.
I get why but it's honestly kind of insane to me how hard disney has gone on destroying the OG characters in order to elevate their weaker new characters. It's not a coincidence the old characters are male and usually white while the new characters are female and not always but frequently non-white. IMO the tear down of old characters to make the new characters look better is easily the worst writing choice one can make. It completely flies in the face of the monomyth blueprint too. All of it comes from this deep seated resentment and disrespect women have now for men in general.
I'm a minority female...the problem with leftist ideology is that they feel they need to bring someone down in order to build someone else up...which is false. Strong characters will come out organically without having to devalue white males when the writing is done well.
This is what they did to thor, in Ragnarok. They made, thor’s situation and problems a joke. Thus making him a fool, making him weaker. When elevating Valkyrie, a new character introduced into that movie; lacking any interest to her character. She’s obnoxious, proud and smug. Yet, she gets to lead thors people…… because she’s a woman . Coming from a woman myself, this is disgusting.
They could have changed a few things, and pointed out a few things, to make some of the stuff in the show make sense. Namely Obi-Wan's hesitance to use his lightsaber. If they had to wherewithal to pretty much say; "Look, I could use this weapon to cut down the empire's stormtroopers no problem. But then it gives me another problem. The damage a lightsaber does to a body is unique and unmistakable. Once the empire finds those bodies, it is only a matter of time before they realize that it was a lightsaber that killed them. What do you think will happen then? The empire will send a swarm of unnecessary troubles our way looking for a Jedi on the loose. THAT is why I hesitate to use this weapon, Leia. That is why I will resort to such uncivilized methods of combat. And NOTHING will change my course unless it becomes absolutely necessary for me to ensure your survival."
Right. That's what makes it so bizarre; in high sci-fi and fantasy, it's so EASY to invent bullshit like that without it being contrived or contradictory that any writer who fails to do it, and instead has plot holes, is just an incompetent buffoon. In a more grounded setting and plot, it can be harder to account for every little "What if?" the audience may ask, but they could easily explain how he can't use the Force willy-nilly because a guy like Vader can, even from a great distance, sense that shit, at least enough to give him a direction to search. But nah.
I mean, Alec Guinness didn't give a shit about the role. So at least there's that. Plus he's dead. Hamil though... He protested every step of the way and no one listened. They did him dirty.
Another stupid thing: We can’t see any character growth with Kenobi or Skywalker because we’re picking up midstream in their lives. We know who they were and who they’ll become, so the emotional heart of the show has to be another character, someone we can see grow. I wouldn’t have chosen Leia as the primary, but okay. Instead of giving us a place to go, though, they drop her in roughly fully formed, already possessing the strong-willed qualities that make her a leader later on. She should have started out as a pampered teenage princess, but the kidnapping is what transforms her, along with the help of Kenobi. He helps bring out the Padme, and perhaps even scolds her for being a little too Anakin. But no. I guess they decided that would send a wrong message to girls, so instead we get a fully-formed character (who would be a SENATOR were it not for her whimsy) played by a too-young actress who thinks she’s in a cheesy 90s sitcom. Soldiers? Dead people? Sith Inquisitors? FLEA? Nope, not scared. If I may, my liege: FUCK OFF, SHOW.
God, no. Her starting out as a pampered spoiled princess would have been awful. There’s no reason to think she’d be that way. And this DOES show her growth. She’s the same person we have seen-there never was a sign she was spoiled or unduly pampered-but we see her start to realize the value in service and working for others.
Exactly! He’s just tagging along with some snotty little kid(who btw got the job cause daddy is a Hollyweird exec) for 3 episodes so far, which completely wasted time on his character arc. Now it appears that the 3 remaining shows will give mini me Leia and Reeeeva the most screen time. Just watch!!! But since this isn’t a Obi Wan show(despite his name on the title) KK and her minions ultimately pulled off the greatest bait n switch tv series Disney ever produced, and they’re laughing at us right now. SW is dead folks.
@@xyshomavazax I can agree on that. Honestly, I would like to see part of what you commented; Obiwan scolding her for being a little too like Anakin. Temperament-wise, she took after Anakin while Luke took after Padme. If there’s not a scene where she loses her temper or does something reckless and dangerous and Obiwan reacts because he sees the Skywalker in her-maybe even raises his voice or gets angry-that would be missed opportunity.
Modern Lucasfilm thinks that people trained in a skill from the age of 2 into adulthood can just forget how to use said skill over the course of a year, really just brilliant.
Right. It's like Michael Jordan while he was playing baseball; pretty sure he still would have kicked the asses of 99.5% of the population in a game of basketball. There's a difference between "I've forgotten how to do trick beer pong shots since I got out of college" and "I've forgotten how to do things as intrinsic to my everyday existence as putting pants on."
How also was he supposed to train Luke? He actually says to Owen “he must be trained...” - by who, if he’s lost all his abilities how is he possibly supposed to train Luke?
My take is that Obi-Wan is just going through the motions. He is watching over Luke because he was tasked to by Yoda. Now that he knows that Anakin is alive maybe that will jolt him out of the funk has been in for the last ten years.
Forgive me for mentioning The Last Jedi, but you don't need a strong connection to the Force to train someone in the ways of the Force, because that's exactly what Luke did with Rey, and he had completely shut himself off from the Force entirely for a time.
Yeah I definitely saw that ANH scene as being the first time they fought since Mustafar. I was acting hoping during that interaction in Ep 3 that they at least wouldn’t fight, so as not to break continuity.
I bet you love in episode 4 when they are sneaking across a huge wide open hanger full of storm troopers and officers and Lea is "hiding" under Kenobi's trench coat that stops about 2 feet from the floor. NONE of the dozens of enemy in the hanger notice Kenobi has sprouted a second pair of legs and that they are little girl legs.
Obi-Wan to Leia: "How old are you?" Yes, he literally asked her that in this episode AFTER reminding two different people that ten years had gone by in the previous episode.
@@violetisgaylmao Oh give me a break. There were a million other ways for him to say something like that without asking such an idiotic question. It was clearly BAD writing.
@@violetisgaylmao OMG! Right after I watched that part I said OUT LOUD "Why didn't they just have him say, 'You don't sound like a ten year old.'" GET A BRAIN.
The problem is there are no male protagonist any more in Disney. They exist to prop up the supporting cast and hopefully spawn a spin off Reva series. Luke existed to make Rey look good and nearly every other legacy character just exist to set up the next generation. But since they can't write a good new character they have to destroy the old ones to make the new characters look good.
@@realjoedee if any the leaked rumors are true she's going to have a epic change of heart, stand up to Vader and "die" to him. Though if she stays dead is a real question. Either way the character growth of the series mostly seems to be Reva growing a conscious and suddenly not wanting to kill kids any more. You know despite being a psycho path just hacking people for the heck of it right now.
When Leia said *"bring him back"* i just realized... that character, has Kathleen Kennedy OVER-written all over it. You can just see how they'll be using this as the "Empowering little girls" marketing strategy that they did with Rey but now up to a hundred
... you couldn't have guessed that by nature of it simply being a younger version of Leia and the obvious implications for rewriting her that would bring? Like seriously. Of course they're going to turn an actually interesting strong female character who was a genuine icon and role model for girls to look up to and try to be like... And make them just a forced political mouthpiece and a weaker inferior version of themselves. The girl manages to act decently in spite of it but... Clearly there's some fun things going on in the writing room. And I don't think any of the actors are ingrained or care enough to point it out like Hamil did in the sequels. Not that anyone listened.
@@harrambou9468 Eh. Maybe that's fair, maybe it's not. Obi-Wan's story was conclusive and flush. Nothing sticking up or any real mess going on. This? This is a bit messy. Though, going into the Leia gripe is... Definitely a bit much more than anyone, including myself, needs to do. Though her inclusion is definitely more about marketing than writing.
I was so tired of these people ruining characters, I decided to start my own comic company in my spare time. It's time for us to make our own heroes and universes. We're already working on issue #2 of one of our books. Exciting times!
I got to give it up to the hardcore fans that love the show. How does a Jedi lose their connection to the force. It’s inside him and all around him. It’s in all things and makes up reality. Wtf. Mauler is right Luke just stopped using it and chose to disconnect which doesn’t make sense but Ok. Now Kenobi losing the power is stupid.
It's not a superpower, though. It's not something a character just has and that's it, but then again Spider-Man 2 played with the idea of Peter loosing his powers as he lost his confidence--and that's considered a great movie. Now the Kenobi series has its issues, don't get me wrong, but the Force is very much a symbolic/spiritual thing that can come and go depending on the mental state of the character, and this idea is hardly new in the franchise. They could still blow it in the next three episodes, but so far I personally haven't seen anything that feel egregious or inconsistent with what we've seen before. Perhaps we should wait for the mini-series' story arc to be completed before we write it off as a failure.
I get that there are some stupid writing decisions in this show and its fair to criticize them, but this is a very faithful adaptation of Kenobi from the comics. Mauler mentions that he isn't using the two most powerful tools in his arsenal the Force, and his Lightsaber, but if he uses either it is going to draw attention to himself and Luke. If he uses the Force, Vader is instantly going to sense that and track him down, and a lightsaber is to recognizable as a Jedi's weapon so of course he wouldn't use it. BUT at some point in this show he has to retrain his connection to the Force, so if that doesn't happen then yeah I'd be pissed at this show too.
I have never written anything in my life, this series has given me the confidence that even I can do a lot better than this, a few plotlines spring to mind...
Why are so many people complaining about this Leia’s a stubborn kid...Obi-Wan’s a lot more haggard than Bail too Y’all just want reasons to complain at this point. It certainly ain’t perfect but they’re trying a hell of a lot more than they were with the bullshit we got before
@@harrambou9468 because it’s a stubborn kid who grew up having a dad older than kenobi? Why would she say this garbage? The answer is because the writers couldn’t think up of a funny line but must have comedy somewhere
After making that quip about his age, she asked if Obi-Wan was her dad. Does she think so lowly about her birth mother that she thinks she chases men twice her age? Also, shouldn't that logic make her excited or scared that she could also have Jedi powers? Especially with all this adventuring and getting chased by the Empire, she should have made the connection of how dangerous the implication is to her.
In some older material it was said that surviving Jedi had to be careful about using their powers for two main reasons. The first was that doing crazy things via the force where people could see it would start rumors that would spread. Secondly, using the force would create "ripples" in it. This could be sensed sometimes at great distances, as was seen in the original movies. Eventually this could attract the assassins or even Vader himself. So, Obi Wan was supposed to have been in hiding and essentially training at very low levels to avoid detection.
Yes, this. That's why Yoda went to Dagobah. He went to live near a nexus of dark force energy so it would basically hide him and cloak whatever he might do there.
If that's true (and if so it should've been explained far more clearly in the first episode), it still doesn't explain why he's so bumbling and unwise. You don't have to use the force to have vision. Obi-Wan should be written as wise and knowing, like a true Jedi. This character is not Obi-Wan Kenobi.
It would be cool if they didn't shit on everything else and kept only that as a reason to make Obi Wan weak. That could have been a challenge for Obi Wan to continue his Force training unnoticed. But even in the world in this series they created, it doesn't make much sense and isn't explained well.
My brother said last night "what if Obi Wan dies and Reva now turned good and feeling bad about killing Obi Wan has some surgery to make her look like Obi-Wan and takes over his mission for him". I laughed then immediately got nervous cause I could see it happening 😅 😬
It's not just the writers. Ewan McGregor, especially in a producing role, is very much to blame. When David Tennant won his NTA special recognition, Catherine Tate makes mention of the fact that he realised he was a custodian of the Dr Who character and he took it seriously. The lack of humility and respect for these stories boggles my mind.
I've not watched this show yet but it sounds similar to the Picard situation. Where the lead actor is given far too much control simply to bribe them back in to the role, and that they either don't understand or don't care what the character is.
@@garym6315 exactly like picard , unfortunately watched the disaster of the first season , then bailed . i always wondered how these actors willingly destroy characters that have a huge fan base , and those same fans will gladly watch anything else they in . these actors feel like puppets who are willfully forced into a situation . knowing everything about disney star wars , it is a pity they came back to these roles .
I have been wondering why Obi-wan is unable to contact Qui-gon. Yoda assigned him this task in _Revenge of the Sith._ The events of this series are supposedly a decade thereafter, but he has still not managed to reach out to him. How?
@@Ryuksgelus yeah, they're not devoid of quality. Even some of the books and comics and one game (Fallen Order) are perfectly good. The problem is that they're insanely inconsistent, there's a divide between those who want to deconstruct Star Wars and those who actually love it and just want to tell good stories, and when they do mess up, there's absolutely no justification for it because success was basically teed up for them if they would just get out of their egos and actually listen to what people want.
Did you actually expect any different though? I was hyped because some actors were returning but I just knew they would botch it Nothing they have done is any good, the sequel movies, Mandalorian, Boba Fett etc etc, there all just trash content
Leia never met Obi-Wan in 'Star Wars : A New Hope', that fact alone invalidates this whole story. Sorry Never met him PRIOR TO 'Star Wars' A New Hope'.
@@marieandemerson1555 no. “You served my father during the clone wars, now HE begs you …” not “you rescued me from kidnapping and now I beg you help me again”
@@marieandemerson1555 In the message Luke Found she addressed him as "General Kenobi, Years Ago You Served My Father In The Clone Wars" - she was addressing a man she never knew - when Luke broke her out she just said "General Kenobi, WHERE IS HE?" She knew a Name.
People really need to avoid using "depression", "trauma", and "PTSD" in their sentences and stories. Those words lose their true meaning when they became mainstream. Its gotten to a point where it's very cancerous that Disney always these words to justify their bad characterization and shitty writing in Marvel and Star Wars.
I agree with this. Jedi, as written in the original Star Wars films, are wise sages who are connected with the Universe. It is not possible that such beings would ever suffer from PTSD, or that it would even be possible for them to cut themselves off from their connection to the force. Disney basically don't understand the mythology.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 It is not realistic at all. I have served in war and have seen people get injured and many have died yet it does not play out like it does in the TV show. Obi Wan is a writers mentally retarded character nothing else.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 People experience trauma all the time and rise above it in real life. What's unrealistic about that? Especially if you've been trained to control your emotions from a very young age.
"Wokeness" isn't even the worst part of Kenobi. It's just a terribly written show. If all the characters were straight while males with the same writing it would still be terrible. It's just BAD.
@@Ajxskyline I don't disagree, but the "Wokeness" isn't going away anytime soon. Poor writing can be fixed much more quickly and easily. The fact that they have Both at Disney is, of course, the crux of a larger problem.
Star Wars has become a sad joke and an example of what happens when writers who have no appreciation for the franchise prioritize THE MESSAGE over the story.
I havent seen any of THE MESSAGE in this. I saw it all over halo, some on boba and mando, but I havent here. The evil diversity hire is literally awful at her job, you dont find that funny? Leia is a bit over powered, but I mean, it's not like shes gunna die in the show, we know that.
Odd moments for me: Reva's big intro walk, obi-wan not taking the truck, and Vader not trying to get obi wan after he burnt him and got separated by the flames.
Let's not forget other ridiculous things like Toddler Potato Leia with T-Rex Arms being able to outrun three grown mercenaries, an Inquisitor, and a gorram Jedi Master... ugh...
As long as Disney has Star Wars, men will always be portrayed as imperfect fools destined to failure without the perfect female to protect them. Most of us knew this when Lucas sold out. We were right.
I wonder if Star war’s will forever belong to Disney or some other company would be able to take control of it by buying it from Disney, I would be so happy if some good company or just any company at this point takes over Star Wars so Disney won’t make more trash
This episode was such a missed opportunity! The troopers on the transport could’ve been like “screw rules and regs, it’s hot!” and taken off their helmets! We could’ve had Freck, the troopers and Obi Wan having a casual discussion but instead, no, these random troopers on a transport think they’re gonna be the ones to catch Obi Wan and they start interrogating for the thousandth goddam time!
The show had so much potential, but something struck me about the show that pretty much ruins it once you realize it. The overall arc of the story is leading towards Obi-Wan getting his 'mojo' back - his confidence, his sense of purpose, his Jedi powers, etc. And to do what? Sit in a cave for another 20 years or so? It basically has no point.
Lucasfilm is the equivalent of a gravedigger, going from classic character to classic character, digging them up and parading them around for easy money. They don’t care about the characters or the quality of the story, they just want the easy brand recognition. Star Wars fans need to stop giving them money or they won’t stop
Totally agree with your point, but you mean graverobber. Gravediggers are the guys that make the grave in the first place: an important and thankless job.
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The whole truck sequence was hilarious.
"It's a long story"
"It's a long ride"
5 seconds later
"that's our stop"
I thought the same thing.
They couldn't even show a zoomed out shot in between to show some time went by 😂
Noticed that. Wouldn't you realize as you were writing that would make no sense?
@@tcp2518able how about in the first episode when reva starts threatening the villagers, out of a crowd of like 20-30 ppl she conveniently picks Owen, probably the one man there that has connection to Kenobi lol I thought it was super far fetched, like winning the freaking lotto
I feel like that was just something to say just to interrogate him. Press him a bit
This was a badly made, poorly scripted, terribly acted, low budget monty python sketch.
"A character is only as smart as the person writing them." - Drinker the Wise.
Words to live by.
I wonder who wrote it...
I guess that’s why Drinker don’t write lol
If that's the case japanese anime writers have +200 iq
@@lilmovieperp3599 he does lol
This has Kathleen Kennedy’s fingerprints all over it. It’s like watching Last Jedi all over again with weak scripts, sarlacc sized plot holes, strong female characters who constantly dominate weak male characters and a worn out old Obiwan instead of a worn out old Luke.
Yup, but the blame doesn't end there. Who allows this woman to tear this apart and keep her job? No one likes anything she touches, so why is she still employed? This woke agenda is supported by the studio itself.
I second that motion!!!
It's a Pure Disney Dumpster Fire!!!
You need help
@@plugmanjohnson7456 why
I could not agree more. I gave up after 2 episodes.
The worst thing is: Kenobi was so well known in the Clone Wars for his diplomatic and talking skills. Without even using a lightsaber or a blaster sometimes, he could stop fights before they even happened. That's how he earned the nickname "The Negotiator". Hell, even his flagship was named after him. And now here he is being told and lead around by a 10 year old and exposing themselves to a couple of stormtroopers!!
He was also successfully undercover for a while, but no biggie.
@@kirby7294 That too!
"Legacy characters are headed for extinction"
Maverick: "maybe so, but not today"
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Goated comment👍🏾🔥🔥
Great line in a great movie.
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It was I! I was like 421 all along!
Tearing down the heroes that men looked up to as boys is a great way to destroy their own sense of heroism and value. I didn’t want to think it, but it looks like this stems from a contempt for men and the male heroic myth. It’s sad that that’s what they think it means to empower women. Men and women both deserve better.
Amen
Western women don’t deserve shit. Men deserve better for sure
A lot of the bizarre and lamentable stuff about Disney Star Wars makes sense when you consider that it's largely written by left-wing feminists. eg tearing down and embarrassing the traditional male heroes, young Mary Sue female characters, shoehorned diversity
That is entirely what it is about. The entire world view of the people running these franchises is shaped by Marxist critical theory. Their goal is to deconstruct male heros (especially white male heros) for their purpose of building a new mythology where men generally and white men in particular are portrayed unironically as members of an oppressive all powerful patriarchy while at the same time being weak and incompetent. (If white men are weak and incompetent I'm not sure how they created an all powerful patriarchy hell-bent on oppressing women and minorites. But we aren't supposed ask questions like that.) It would just be stupid and funny if their blatant bigotry weren't also incredibly evil.
Hey guys look it’s someone who totally understands how trauma works and what makes a male character strong.
Isn't sadness, bitterness and resentment the path to the dark side? Kenobi is a Jedi master, not a newbie . Whoever wrote this doesn't seem to know this about the Jedi
Now we know that wokeness isn't just THE path to the dark side, it IS the dark side.
The dark side is completely arbitrary.
excellent comment. I don't care how out of shape Kenobi is. he was still trained as a Jedi and has the force in him. For him not even to sense various things is shameless. Plus, to allow bitterness, sadness to over come him, meand he was never a good jedi in the first place.
Jedi are supposed to USE those feelings of inadequacy to empower themselves, not become completely useless in the heat of battle. Whoever came up with the base story of this show completely fucked it.
Not if you cut yourself off from the force for 10 years
The whole "Obi Wan has given up" thing would make more sense if he wasn't adamant in the first episode about training Luke (while arguing with Owen). How is he planning on training anyone when he's buried his lightsaber, stopped using the force, and become a weak old man? And the point about him being too weak to protect Luke is a great one. If he felt that responsibility then how in the world could he let himself become SO vulnerable? (Except against non-Force users, then he's basically John Wick until the plot decides he isn't)
Yep. Every other error aside, this is the biggest glaring mistake in the whole thing so far. If Obi's entire reason for being there is to watch over Luke, protect and then train him, why the hell would he let both his force powers lapse AND bury his sabre somewhere? If at any point the Empire, bounty hunters or whoever could waltz up to the ranch, what was his plan exactly? The worst Star Wars show to date. Frustrating to watch.
Also we know he does end up training Luke in A New Hope and he's still in touch with the Force in that movie. We know that the narrative is just going to end up returning to the status quo by the end of the series which makes the whole narrative completely pointless. It's like this show was literally created just so they could give Obi Wan the Last Jedi Luke Skywalker treatment.
@@Intel13thGenBurns honestly I don't think Star Wars can be saved the amount of flaws shown here yet all the fanfare as kenobi runs from Vader and the most annoying defense "the lore never said this couldn't happen"(including Leia,Obi the coward,leaving Tatooine,etc)
Precisely. He’s not in a position to give up - people are depending on him. The fact he hasn’t trained for 10 years is a dereliction of duty that I don’t see as being redeemable.
@@teamtx1578 I'm confused. You're mad, because they gave a realistic period of Kenobi's life where he is depressed, and ridden with PTSD while all by himself on a dead end desert planet. And you think it's bad that they're making a show to show how he comes out of that depression, and later becomes the Obi-Wan we know in A New Hope? If your argument is well 'we know how he turns out' You must have hated the prequels cause we know Anakin turned out.
There is a good amount of flaws in the show, I do not understand the people who hate that Obi-Wan is depressed, or has PTSD however. That is what you should have been expecting, especially even in Legends Obi-Wan was very depressed for a good amount of time on Tatooine.
I love how Disney thinks igniting a lightsaber is so special and theatrical. In the OT, Kenobi uses his lightsaber in public in broad daylight in a crowded bar to chop a nobody’s arm off surrounded by an imperial search party.
Think about with all the Jedi exterminated, how many Lightsabers would be circulating or even reverse engineered.
Kenobi probably knew that none of those criminals would talk to the cops, even if they believed that the old man could be the last Jedi in existence. It didn’t even start a bar brawl.
Kenobi was in the process of leaving Tatooine. He didn't care who saw him because he wouldn't be sticking around for long. I am not defending Disney here, just making a point.
@@WorldPeace21 excellent point, he knew his destiny as soon as Luke’s adopted family were killed. I just want Ben to use that saber, instead of using a human shield and a blaster.
You’re confusing me, was it broad daylight or a crowded bar!?
@@attentionbajoranworkers4408 lol crowded bar, daytime hours. You know what I mean.
Three moments in episode 1 has me eye rolling.
1. The runaway Jedi pulling down two fabric sheets draped over some sticks as an obstacle to slow down the inquisitors... One of whom proceeds to walk straight through it.
2. The kidnapper that is walking after Leia who then proceeds to walk into a chest level branch and blurt out a pained sound as if he was hurt by the 2mph collision.
3. Some dumb random Jedi runaway tracks down and confronts Obi Wan without any explanation but the entire Sith order has spent 10 years getting nowhere in trying to track him.
😐
Also how they showed order 66, irl you would get how the jedi got beat since the clones have more numbers, but in the obi wan show a fucking jedi got killed by 2 clones! Like wtf you are a jedi who blocks blasters like you blink your eyes!
And how did he end up dead in the street with no explanation as to why?
@@exarkunn69 reva just knows.
@@exarkunn69 LAZY WRITING
To be fair, the Fifth Brother actually had to walk AROUND the fallen canopy, thus delaying him for 1/2 more second, allowing the clever Jedi to completely get away.
Well even according to IMDb, this isn’t Kenobi’s show. They list the actress playing Leia before Ewan. He doesn’t even have top billing over a nobody on his own show.
Honestly, I'm now at the point that I blame the actors too. You know the script, you know what they're doing. If you take the check, you're as colpable as any other producer, director, writer. I mean, I understand the nobody who's trying to make it, but I have no more patience for the big names. So, F Ewan as well 😑🤣
looooooooool woooooow. I feel bad for Ewan McGregor.
And he is a producer on the show. What the hell does that tell you. Disney turned him into the cuck bitch they always wanted and he is just blindly allowing the character assassination and going along with it.
Thats what he gets for cheating on his wife.
IMDb is a representation of top billing, nor is it an official Hollywood device. This probably the dumbest thing I’ve seen in a long time- besides this video. Leia is at the top because she was added later to hide that she was in the show. Yikes
Obi-Wan: (looking at blaster) “So uncivilized.”
This show: Obi-Wan uses blasters
Mind blowing they waste over 20 million per episode but cannot afford any writers of talent or someone who understands Star Wars
and has a direction for the series or at least someone with common sense for this once great franchise.
Yeah Filoni knows nothing about Star Wars…
they don't pay writers almost anything anymore so they end up getting college-drop outs to write for them
Yep. The people behind this show obviously don't care about Star Wars. They're just a bunch of spiteful, self absorbed hacks messing around with something they don't care about or understand.
@@tipsyt1909 Filoni is tremendously overrated, and you'd think Book of Boba Fett would have made that apparent to anyone paying attention (not to mention his perpetual wank to golden child Ahsoka, even transferring so much connection to Light and Balance from the Skywalkers to her over and over again).
But even if this were not the case, Filoni has no involvement with the Obi-Wan Kenobi series. He is not a writer, not a producer, not an executive producer, not the director. In fact, interviews with director and showrunner Deborah Chow and Kathleen Kennedy indicate that writers were told specifically to shy away from linking Kenobi to The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett.
20 mil per episode?!?!?! is that accurate??!?!? how can they manage to make such a shitty garbage fest for that insane amount of $?! unbelieable
I find it hilarious that anyone thought they would make a show that had any respect for the characters or audiences. Have you not been paying attention? Stop giving money to these people.
The answer is simple. . . . piracy!
But your never gonna get that time back ever
@@jacksamson1239 Anyone who thinks they're sticking it to Disney by watching the show through illegal means is the real fool because THEY'RE STILL WATCHING THE GARBAGE SHOW.
And yet your still watching
Yeah it’s disgusting, can’t believe they’re still doing it but I am glad to see that the fans are actually calling it out for once instead of just eating it up because it has a Star Wars sticker slapped on it
@@bruhdon4748 nah, im still seeing plenty of star wars channels with with super excited reviews for this show. The people who are saying its crap are the same people who have been saying it all along. I haven't seen any new voices calling them out.
Every strong male character that is brought back becomes sad and lonely:
- Jake Skywalker in the Last Jedi
- Boba Fett in the Book of Boba
- Han Solo in The Force Awakens
Same thing with Marvel, make the male characters weak, sad, lonely, and pining for a woman.
At least in Blade Runner 2049 Deckard was doing it to keep his child safe. Plus he was already sad and lonely in the first one ha.
“Jake Skywalker”?
@@Penname25 that was not Luke Skywalker
@@Penname25 its the name Mark Hamill gave to his own character in TLJ because he recognized who he was playing not the Luke he knew.
Tbf Boba didn't have much character it was the mystery and the design of his character why he was cool but Disney decided to make his character boring and weak to make other characters in his own show look better. Disney doesn't care for the IP they know they can make whatever they want and it will still sell because it is Disney they basically own everything
"A character is only as smart as the person writing them." - The Drinker.
The absolute giga-genius that wrote Jimmy Neutron.
Haha similar to the Sherlock Holmes conundrum.
@@lumeronswift Yeah or Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul, the awesome mindblowing stuff they do in those shows, the creators must know how to run a successful drug business or get out of anything in court.
@@thirsty7281 The beauty of those shows is that nearly everyone is smart.
[Put obligatory sodium chloride joke here]
I don't understand why everyone expected anything else from Disney... Here's how it looks to me. These characters are symbols of hope and inspiration. Disney writes characters in a way that takes the inspiration out of them, leaving you uninspired and unmotivated. There's something sinister going on with Disney.
Satanists took over Disney.
@@GreyDeathVaccine Pretty sure even Satanists would consider them evil.
I second that motion!!!
It's a Pure Disney Dumpster Fire!!!
there's something sinister going on at disney because your favorite kids movie character has realistic ptsd and has to go through a run of the mill character arc
I don't think anyone expected better, but everyone hoped for better.
Obi Wan was the ultimate "I will do what I must" character. Wallowing in pity and despair is a flagrant retcon of his entire persona. Having regret is one thing, but he wouldn't abandon his duty to protect others, preserve the Jedi way, and serve the greater good. His feelings on the state of the universe or the state of his own being would always come second. This is why this series is a non-starter for me as is most of the Disney SW lineup. They don't understand the IP, they just us its framework as a skin-suit to serve their own narcissistic and childish desires. It's pathetic and downright disrespectful.
Yep this is Obi-Wan, a guy who did not get wrapped up in romantic entanglements no matter what his feelings because of his Devotion to the Jedi Order, that guy! Just completely renounces the Jedi like every other idiot, so-called Jedi that Disney Star Wars writes, let's not forget the completely mind-numbing story of how Kylo Ren and a handful of Jedi (that joined him because reasons) managed to kill some 50 apprentices and set the temple on fire, all while Luke is unconscious for some minutes not to mention even if they had more time it would still be the dumbest thing ever
Nicely summed up “The character is only as smart as the person writing them”.
Quality aint Dead though: Not only do with always have the Classics,
like ST-Next-Generation or Cliffside or Internection-Cube,
but we also get new good things like AMphibia or Owl House or Learning with Pibby.
Probably diversity hiring by Disney? LoL
And that's why I more often prefer to write dumb characters. I know I'm not that smart, so I struggle to write actually intelligent characters.
I thought it was ridiculous that Reva could 'mind-read' Haja to figure out where Kenobi was headed, but she conveniently couldn't read Owen's mind even though Obi-Wan was literally a couple meters away lol
If you had that ability, and did not have some Jedi rule over it's use... you would just read everyone's thoughts.
@@kevinwilson455 Right. I don't think Disney understands what the force is, and more importantly, they haven't defined a ceiling on what kind of powers it grants. They use it willy-nilly to cover for their weak writing, and it shows.
Mind tricks and such only work on the weak minded. Owen is as stubborn as a mule and meant what he said about the jedi to boot. Thus deflecting reva.
True, true
@@connorgolden4 The man didn't snitch out Obiwan even under the fear of death of himself and his family that take major cajones.
It is a sad event when there are clearly writers who can not write a children's book with crayons, writing a Star Wars story. This is a prime example of how substandard the writing is, actors who have to do their best with the script they are given, and an Executive Producer running the helm and screwing it up (again).
Leia was just outed as a Skywalker in the most incredibly flippant means I have ever seen.
they are not screwing it up. They are destroying men cuz they are feminist. They don't care about money, but you better not take their money away. all a bunch of communist
I hope the next trend in writing is thinking.
I watched 5 min of Kenobi and my head was about to explode on how stupid it was. Kenobi was at some planet with young Leia and she convinced him to go on some transport driven by a mole guy then he slips up talking in front of a storm trooper squad that hitched a ride for no good reason, then he talks openly about being a Jedi in front of the driver 5 feet away, then they get betrayed by the mole but the officer of the new squad was actually helping the Jedi although how did she become a platoon leader??? Then they go to some repair shop and Kenobi acts like a pussy when Vader comes but is saved by some chick who shot like one shot and a whole platoon of storm troopers and Vader just kind of stop fighting. It was all so contrived it made my head hurt.
The laser gate is literally right out of Blazing Sadles.
"The LePetomain through-way!? Aww what'll that @sshole think of next?"
Does anyone got a dime!? Someone's got to go back and get a shot load of dimes!
Gotta love the part when Leia is in the woods and somehow 4 professional bounty hunters struggle to catch a 40 pound little girl.
It's almost like Star Wars was never realistic.
@@HonorarySaiyan well that was a take
Shoulda hired Boba Fett...
I agree. That chase in the woods scene was written like it was a comedy scene in a children's television show,. All that was missing was quirky chase music.
@@beeman2075 Benny Hill music!
I cant believe that people behind this show looked at the Leia chase scenes and agreed that everything is fine with them, are there any writers or directors working there or just woke activists?
That scene was ridiculous and silly
I think they were to busy screaming and shouting on twitter than paying attention to what they are writing and what being filmed!
It seemed like a live action bit from rebles.
It was dumb, but it didn't bother me much.
They got her and ransomed her to get obi and it worked.
Good enough for me.
Yes
The part when the woman literally sees the branch, observes the branch, figures out what species of tree the branch belongs to & some how manages to speed walk into the branch and be knocked on her ass???
Totally agree…my thing is he’s so adamant about training Luke when he’s of age…wtf is he gonna train him to do? Run from a fight? How not to use the force??? How to live like a hermit?
Yeeeeah, I was of the mind that Kenobi had to suppress his Force connection in order to survive post-Order 66, but if that were the case, how could he hope to commune with Qui-Gon, and what would he have left to eventually teach Luke? :/
I want to give this show my benefit of the doubt so much, but the cracks grow bigger the more I think about it... which I guess in Kathleen Kennedy's eyes makes me a sexist, racist, etc...
I love how Kenobi walks around with an open carry light saber and in a robe which practically all Jedi wears in all of the SW movies. “Oh, I am a farmer, and we are just on a tourist trip in this random mine planet, because that is what farmers do, traveling around in random industrial zones for fun”
Well it's probably an open carry planet so.....
Then again, I live in a state that until more recently, people open carried AR-15s in Walmart. If it helps, his light saber is shaped like a miniature hookah.
@@donpietruk1517 yeah, still open carry a weapon only jedis use
In the duel on Mustafar, Lucas actually added the moment--and in doing so explained and made canon--that two powerful force user can't just toss, push, grap, choke, etc. each other willy-nilly. There's the moment when both Anakin and Obi-Wan reach back and attempt to force push simultaneously, both of them digging in and focusing hard, but neither get any effect. Also, if we think of a scene like the fight between Yoda and Dooku, or even Luke and Vader in TESB, they/he throw inanimate objects around, but never use the force directly on their opponents. Force lightning seems to be the best technique for attacking other forces users.
isn’t there the chance that because Obi-Wan is rusty, he couldn’t utilize his force the same way to prevent himself from being grabbed? i think their first encounter played out relatively well given that vader has been slaying jedi and the show established Obi-Wan has been in hiding without training. Would I have preferred if it was a bad ass fight between them? of course, but i still think that will come
This is what I used to love about SW, just digging in to the mountain of lore and the rules of the universe. It's fun escapism. Can't do it with the new shite, it'll leave you sad and confused.
@@nick72799
So what you are saying is it’s not bad writing it’s a JEDI MASTER forgetting everything ?
Seriously ?
@@nick72799 well no, because they've already shown Obi-wan successfully use the Force to save Leia from falling. And even taking on the five armed Stormtroopers and the probe Droid, like they were nothing, just earlier that very same day. So perhaps this implies his Jedi powers no longer work at night? Perhaps that's when his 'self pity levels' are highest and he becomes impotent?
Nitty gritty. That’s what’s become of the Star Wars makers and fans.
They did the same thing to Loki in his show. Literally just isn’t evil anymore not as clever. Not as good of a fighter. Wtf is happening to these beloved characters :(
ever sorry i watched loki . but not making the same mistake with this disney-fanficsshow .
Thank you.
I knew that Loki would be bad the moment the fat chick knocked him out in the first episode
Political woketivism
I think they're trying to transition him from general to old man but they've still failed to give him enough agency to be an interesting character
Even old man Obi Wan was more proactive and competent than this.
Old man Kenobi didn’t resemble this guy whatsoever.
He’s not even the same person anymore, now I know how all the kids who grew up on Luke Skywalker felt after TLJ
One thing which I really hope they explain, is the fact that in A New Hope, the exchange between Vader and Kenobi "When i left you i was but the learner, now I am the master", or "A presence i havent felt since..." the first of which just makes Vader look like a forgetful moron if he cant remember him clapping Kenobi's cheeks as a clear master of the force over Kenobi as seen in the show
@Logan Draper Most of the old men I know are capable of kicking serious arse, one way or another. One of the thing that makes an aging or old character interesting is how they compensate for increasing debility.
I think the fact that he keeps using a blaster is insane. They've already established that he hates guns. Legit why isn't he using his wits and skills in the force more than blasting things
Because the last thing he wants to do is draw attention to himself. He went to Tatooine to hide and protect Luke, not draw attention to himself by using the force and using a lightsaber.
@@thatonebigstarwarsnerd8769oh ok so when no one is around and him and Leah are about to die he shouldn’t use his saber or the force 🤦♂️
@@turtlebot323 I never said he didn't have to use it in life or death situations, just that his primary reasons for not using them were to hide himself and protect Luke.
@@thatonebigstarwarsnerd8769 except every single time it wouldn’t have mattered
Because he’s at literally the lowest point in his life and thus is resorting to things that he normally would never do?
When he misspoke and said "Leia" in front of the stormtroopers, I facepalmed so hard. Like bro... you literally had one job.
Edit: I also totally expected him to struggle and pull off a mind trick in that scene. It would have been awesome. My expectations were subverted masterfully.
Obi Wan Kenobi is insulting to those of us who have been fans of the Star Wars franchise since the OT/PT trilogies. I completely forgot episode 3 even dropped that’s how little I cared for this show. XD
I can't agree. So far it's been very well done for Kenobi.
Agreed. This show is absolutely pathetic and it’s aggravating that people think that this is good.
The only thing this show has going for it are the performances and even that is hit or miss at times.
@@chasehedges6775 The only characters I actually cared about where the returning ones from the Prequel Trilogy. Even then it’s not the same since I know George Lucas isn’t creating Star Wars anymore and this is nothing more than Disney shoving politics into everything. Lol
@@ViperChief117 💯👍
I haven’t even watched the show and I don’t think I will
You know what’s hilarious? We’re actually going to NEED a Kenobi show after this show. One to explain how he bounced back from being a sad old fart to being the Jedi Master who beat Darth Maul in three moves because it was his freaking job, and he was the top Jedi of the age who was able to be on guard duty and still be deadly.
I still don't accept the fact that he's basically Jake Skywalker now. Obi Wan is, for better or worse, the poster child of Jedi perseverance. That man has lost everything in the pursuit and protection of the light, and you're telling me he just wanted to throw the only hope he has of a new Jedi knight (A New Hope, if you will), all for the sake of some sad-sads?
I'm not complaining that Obi Wan falling to hard times is outright impossible and it should never happen. It's that Obi Wan falling to hard times misses the whole point of why Obi Wan is such a great character. We want to see Obi Wan conquer his demons the only way he knows how: his wits, his skills, and his trust in the Force. The fact that he needs to be lectured back into this mindset with nary a detailed explanation shows how little they actually cared for this character.
Mando was a cynical plug to other shows, BoBF was a cynical plug to other shows, and Kenobi would no doubt be similar. Fucking wonderful, Dave Filoni and the rest of Lucasarts are charlatans.
Unlike Jake Skywalker, I am prepared to give them some credit for Jake Kenobi so long as his arc brings him back to Obi Wan Kenobi by the end of the series. Everything he stood for and believed in was torn down by the rise of Palpatine and the Empire.
Pretty sure that's what this show is doing. Hasn't finished yet so i guess we'll see, but you people ( just grouping you in with other comments I've seen with similar views ) have this view that Ob1 is being written extremely inept and stupid. We are not watching the same show clearly. The writings not great but passable thus far and seems to be on par with Star Wars.
I say this as a huge fan.
Also I think they're doing a good job with depicting an Ob1 10 years after Rots. He's fucked up with ptsd. It makes since considering all that happened. I've seen what that does to people.
@@wojak-sensei6424 they've shown Obi Won in the Star Wars Clone Wars show on hard times and caught up in his feels, but he was still dignified.
He lost a woman he loved (against Jedi tradition) and got caught up in the feels. Still pulled himself together because he had a mission and he's General f***ing Kenobi, ya know
@@ItWillBeSteve yes and no.
I personally think the writers aren't doing a good job here. Very little of it makes sense with this character specifically.
I will warn you, as a super fan myself, to not get caught with Rose tinted glasses. Nostalgia is a powerful tool that can usually trick people into accepting poor plot lines and bad writing. Ewen McGregor coming back is helping to do just that.
For a prime example, look at The Phantom Menace. when it came out, people lined up for litteral miles to see it and EVERYONE was saying how amazing and awesome it is and it's so cool etc etc... a few months-years pass then Suddenly that movie began to suck... the movie didn't change at all, its just that people realized what they got and weren't happy. Midochlorians, the pod race, the child actor that set a precedent of needing to be a bad actor in order to play Anakin, etc etc etc
It amazes me that people this incompetent are making the kind of money they are. It’s kind of amazing.
You're assuming this is incompetence and not by design.
It’s astounding how much mediocrity gets rewarded in our society.
Who is incompetent?
@@JadeRunner Exactly!! Although I imagine it's a combination. Partly shitty writers and partly intentionally destroying historic characters.
Yeah, part of the problem is giving it attention. It's just trash. We all know what Disney is going to produce, so lets stop talking about it and consuming it. I'd rather talk about old movies or books.
They are also building a terrible gap between the Obi-Wan we see in Episode 3 and 4. At least according to Lucas, Obi-Wan was still supposed to be Vader's superior when they meet in a New Hope, now if they are to maintain continuity, this re-development of Obi-Wan will have to happen off screen. Obi-Wan was supposed to be training to commune with QGJ this entire time on Tatooine, instead we see him failing at. Instead of growing into a Yoda-style jedi master ready to train Luke when the time is right, he's a pathetic has been, this is awful.
It's almost like hes got 10 years for more character growth.
I mean there's still three episodes left, so who's to say that Kenobi won't change drastically by the last episode. I mean they're clearly building up for a character arc here, and seeing as Filoni is credited (just a thanks, but he's usually an advisor on these things) I'd be surprised if the whole point of the series wasn't for Kenobi to end up as the focused and wise man we see in both ep.4 and his appearance in the 'Rebels' cartoon which is set about a year or two before ep.4.
Maybe we should wait for the conclusion of the series before we consider it a failure? Yes, they could blow it and leave us with "Jake Kenobi", but its just as likely that they'll leave us with the Ben Kenobi we have in ep.4. Lets not be overly cynical just because there's a lot of trash being made these days.
But, but, we still have 3 episodes for him to become an master again! 😋 Seriously though I agree with everything you said. Ben Kenobi's episode of Rebels was so awesome because he WAS that person we knew he would become with years of one-to-one training with Qui Gon. The sort of person who had come to terms with the mistakes of the past and was focused on the future and the part he would play in that. A person so in tune with the force that he knew exactly how things would play put and was able to vanish and be totally absorbed in to the force effortlessly. He was the first person in the Galaxy to do that. Although...who wants to bet that the season ends with Qui Gon appearing in the last scene, and all that development takes place offscreen (again).
@@ZeSgtSchultz Watching you shill is just... awkward.
@Cancer Sauce @MrZkinandBonez
Yeah, that would all make sense, except this is an interquel about a major, central character of two trilogies, not a totally fresh origin story on a minor, undeveloped character.
If you can't develop a character without brute forcing an arc of "incompetent buffoon to wise hero", when said character has already chronologically been a victorious galactic general, and heroic jedi knight for multiple stories, then you're awful at writing characters, full stop. Not every story can or should be an origin story, and not every origin story can or should even be the exact same arc.
Its like they havnt even watched the films - remember Kenobis iconic line from a new hope; 'The force will be with you, always!'
This series Kenobi has kinda forgot how to use the force!
The Force went out for cigarettes and never came back.
By the time Yoda dies in return, along with the ending of episode 3 where they are "supposed" to learn communing with the dead and life extension techniques, where it's implied that their age and use of the techniques diminish the overall potentcy they wield.
Even in spite of this, yoda's "long have I watched this one" implies the functional scrying he's doing over luke, like he did with anakin. Which implies he also was watching over leia "no there is another" (which the this TV series is retroactively fucking up that scene).
It's all a hot mess.
"Leia needs protection as much as Luke" Isn't that why Kenobi entrusted Leia to his trusted ally Bail Organa so that she has the protection of the Alderan royal family so that he was free to keep watch over Luke??! Ive not watched this show yet, but its not looking promising, other than for disappointment. Thanks Disney.
Yeah, is he not the king of an entire planet and a member of the galactic Senate? He literally has the entire planet's population as his command and limitless numbers of people to protect her. Luke only had his anonymity and Ben Kenobi to protect him.
@@garym6315 I think Leia was meant to have anonymity aswell, Bail and his wife told everyone she was their daughter!
Yeah. Apparently Bail got retarded. Sending the Empires most wanted person after Leia is not a smart thing by anyones standards. Dude has an entire planet, he has money so he could buy Mercs or bounty hunters to get them. Nobody's gonna find out about her heritage, there's hundreds of trillions of beings in the galaxy, why would anyone piece that about Leia? And Kenobi knows where Luke and Yoda are, so if he gets tortured and he spills his guts, then goodbye any hope of restoring the Jedi order ever again.
That line was a Kathleen Kennedy feminist moment. Leia is just as important as Luke. You know women are just as important as men don't you? They are hitting the audience over the head with that in a not so subtle way.
@@STONESGAM yes except it makes no sense since technically Leia was better protected than Luke ever was. Kathleen Kennedy was a poor choice to take over Lucas arts. Political motivation should never take priority from creativity and imagination in cinema.
To be fair, Luke ceased being important in any way (same with his dad) when the Sequels undid his entrie accomplishments and turned him into a miserable old man, all to make his replacement Mary Rey Sue Palpatine the true hero of the entire Skywalker story. By a lesser extent it also makes Obi-Wan a totally pointless character as he trained two characters that in the grand of scheme of things did jack shit by the end. So really when you think about it, what's even the point of making a show about Obi-Wan? Other then of course promoting up diversity hire inquisitor woman.
YEP! You could remove Luke from the saga and it wouldn't really change anything!
He killed a single Emperor clone and helped blow up the death star, but the Empire/First Order just returned in like 20 years and destroyed the planets using Star Killer Base anyway... Then he refused to even help REY with Force Training, leaving Leia to train her. And then REY was the one who finally killed the REAL emperor and actually reunited the Galaxy at the end of Rise of Skywalker...
So as Bail said "It was NEVER ABOUT THE BOY", and Luke didn't really save anyone...
You seriously think they made this show so they could add one black female to lore? Jesus Christ dude it’s not that deep. People love Obi wan and Ewans performance so they made a show and happened to add a black female and that pisses you off. Pathetic. You guys just look for anything resembling diversity and scream “wokeness” when it’s not there. You just want it to be to support the narrative. Is Hollywood too woke? Yes it is. Is this a woke hire or in anyway pushing a diversity agenda? Not at all, her race and gender haven’t been discussed whatsoever. If it was woke it would be every third sentence talking about how much harder her life is.
And the great warrior woman who saves knobi by Vader and a dozen strom troopers by firing a couple of shots 😅
The second they brought Palpatine back is the second Luke’s sacrifices & Vaders sacrifice of saving his son and restoring balance to the force become redundant, the whole point of the OT and the prequels is completely scrubbed away.
Perhaps Luke used The Force to break the 4th wall and see what Disney was doing to the franchise and lore. That's the only thing that could explain why he gave up.
Here is why Kennedy said the early scripts were “wrong”. It probably showed Obi-Wan as he should be and black female Mary Sue didn’t have a huge role. Kennedy hates strong male characters. She and her ilk loves to tear them down to elevate the female characters. I hate it. As a woman, I want to see strong men and women alongside each other, like the movies and shows I grew up with. Lucas made a huge mistake in letting Kennedy be the boss of LucasFilms.
Yeah I agree .Edge of tomorrow with Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt is a good example of a strong male and female character working together.They were also well written characters.
@@brittscott4673 Not really, Tom Cruise came off as pretty comical. Although agreed that Emily Blunt did a decent job in that film.
@@KSmithwick1989 He was weak and inept at the beginning, and then underwent a character arc where he found his strength and courage and became a leader and a hero; the antitheses of the Mary Sue female characters that are dominating the current landscape and make it impossible to care about them.
@@richardsimpson2439 I was joking about the actor himself, not the character arc.
@@KSmithwick1989 Fair enough, though I disagree. :D
The best part is when Third Sister is at the end of the secret one way tunnel beating Leia somehow, who had a 10 min head start... absolutely fcking genius level directing. 👏
It's crazy that ten years ago a "Obi Wan vs Vader" prequel would have been one of the biggest movies of all time. Now it's episode 3 of a mediocre TV show.
That's clear evidence that Disney has indeed ruined Star Wars, very sad really.
@@ralyman2 they ruined it when they bought it. They killed the EU!
Never thought of it this way but thats very true.
@@ralyman2 you guys would still complain if it was made by George Lucas.
@@hotstinkytaco Yeah, just like people hated Revenge of the Sith, right?
The writers are trying to write a character that has had a massive mental shock. Someone who has relied on faith their entire lives but now has lost their conviction. The problem is they themselves have faith in nothing and lack the ability and skill necessary to pull it off.
I agree, they’re trying to show him as still shocked that the Jedi failed and evil has taken over. But the problem is he’s going to have to make some changes in his character in this series to tie him up with ep IV Kenobi, who wasn’t at all like that
Most godless people in Hollywood who probably got participation trophies all their lives. The bar is lower then ever to be a writer today
So the reason they basically nerfed him and had him regress is much the same reason they did it with Luke. Firstly, it was to denigrate and tear down the old character, and secondly because they don't know how to write a powerful character. One of the problems they mentioned in interviews with the original writer of the sequels (who was let go while the project was still in pre-production) was that he was having the problem where as soon as these powerful, competent characters like Jedi Master Luke showed up all the problems were solved. They had no idea how to make a conflict that was on the new characters' level but still involve the OT guys in the story. So they solved it by stripping them of all their power and authority. Han is no longer a general (and was never the galaxy-class diplomat he became in the EU) and is back to grifting; Leia is no longer a Senator (and never was the chancellor or premier or whatever that she was in the EU) and is just back to running a little band of rag-tag soldiers in a hopeless situation (somehow), and Luke is no longer Grand Master Luke (and the Jedi were never resurrected like they were in the EU) and he's back to living in the middle of bum-fuck nowhere and impotently griping about everything.
They couldn't handle those characters and the competence and intelligence they would have brought to the table and so had to dumb everything down to a level they COULD manage. Same thing now with Obi-Wan. We know what he was before this, we know what he was after this. Hell, in Rebels we see him pretty much JUST after this (I'm pretty sure that's still canon, right?). But the writers can't handle competent Obi-Wan so we get whoever this retard is.
Lmao.
It just makes me sad, what they did to Luke, Han and Leia is depressing...just cause they couldn't be bothered to hire smart enough writers
I mean if you assume that ANH is the golden standard of Star Wars writing you're not gonna go far in scriptwriting. Lucas got around that issue by changing the stakes. Anakin was so incredibly powerful but that was exactly his downfall. Upping the stakes is bog-standard writing.
@@isakaldazwulfazizsunus7564 I'm not advocating for Dragon Ball-Z power escalation or anything like that. It's less a matter of power levels than it is just competence, which is a very different thing. But mostly I'm criticizing them for not having the imagination to create a scenario that new, entry-level characters could solve without the OT guys stealing the show.
I can think of any number: the old guys are distracted with some other crisis, or they're too comfortable resting on their laurels after decades of peace, or the situation the newbies are sent to deal with turns out to be much worse than previously thought, etc. etc.
In any case, power escalation is the path they chose anyway. Remember the Death Star? Here's an even biggerer Death Star! Remember the Emperor? Here's an even eviler Emperor!
The sequels are garbage from any angle. I expect little more from these shows.
Instead of stripping down protagonists, you buff the antagonists. Real easy to do.
Aside from the malicious deconstructing of our beloved film heroes, I am just astounded at the sheer lack of talent from these so called professional writers. Here I am, just some shmuck who works in retail working his butt off to make his own sci-fi series, raking over everything he wrote multiple times over so that it is good enough for him, much less for people he'll pitch it to, and over at Disney, they just shit out awful scripts and call it a day. This really pisses me off how lazy they are.
do not pitch your series to disney , it will be ruined .
@@tommymarco Don’t worry, I don’t plan to.
@@MaesterMike : ) on a serious note , good luck in completing your story . that is something really exciting .
@@tommymarco Hey thanks. That means a lot. I don't know how well it will turn out, but rest assured, it will likely turn out better than most of the crap Hollywood is churning out these days.
@@MaesterMike Always a pleasure . i feel it will turn out well . we are missing original ideas these days . yours will most definitely be infinitely better than anything hollywood pushes out these days . their movies are really easily forgettable . i even find most films on youtube better than hollywood , as you know it is made for the love of making films : )
They are giving Kenobi the Jake Skywalker treatment, though people are trying to justify it by saying he has PTSD.
What the problem with this is that how is Kenobi supposed to protect Luke, if he can’t even defend himself?
It’s all sooo… stupid
Yoda also had a PTSD and didn’t use the force for like 20 years and he managed to lift an X-wing easily.
The writers had no excuse to make Obiwan this way. This is just lazy.
Those people are sheltered narcissists, because that's not what PTSD is. PtSD puts you back in the moment, makes you relive the trauma whenever exposed to stimuli that reminds you of it. Obi-Wan should be whipping his lightsaber out every five seconds, at the smallest thing, if it was PTSD, but no, it's just modern trash millennial writing, where everyone has to be sad and emotional, because the writer is an emotionally stunted child.
@@rogue_of_the_winds1286 LAZY WRITING
@@rogue_of_the_winds1286 The PTSD card has been played out and become as worthless an excuse as crying any one of the '-ism's.
Well, this sucks. I exclaimed "this is utter garbage" after ep 3, but my kids are enjoying themselves, and wifey says "oh dear, they just aimed this series at kids" (despite my daughter freaking out when they showed the most violent scene in all star wars: anakin on fire with no legs). I was like "meh, ok maybe it will improve, and for that matter, basically everything in star wars history makes absolutely no sense, so its just more of the same". Then wifey sends me this video, which basically confirms everything i was complaining about verbatim.
Your wife is a smart women. Sincerely.
Don't let your kids watch moronic shows they'll grow up to be stupid.
Fuck knows what you watched but it must not be the same show
The "its for the kids" thing doesnt really work well when they showed him snapping kids necks and dragging Obi Wan through fire, though I attribute that to the moron writers having no idea how to show something as evil besides in the most blatant ways.
@@pete3011 Yeah my brother said "they made it for kids" and I was like bro? they just showed a kid's neck getting audibly snapped? I don't think that's a great thing for kids to watch
Does anyone believe KK's last minute deflection that she forced a rewrite to make it LESS depressing?
Most likely
No. KK is the killer of happiness and joy. Anything she does is for the purpose of pushing Marxism and Feminism. Nothing else.
I think she got confused between ‘interesting’ and ‘depressing’.
@@clogs4956 There's no confusion. She's just a miserable person period.
Well, in fairness, a strong, noble white male character like Obi Wan remaining strong and noble in the show that bears his name would've been pretty damn depressing to KK.
Let's keep in mind that this entire arc is inconsistent with Obi-wan's *CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.*
He was resolved to protect Luke no matter what at the end of *Episode 3.* (He had just defeated Vader BTW) By the time *Star Wars Rebels* plays out he gets serious when Darth Maul threatens to take *Luke* and kills *Maul* in a few moves. Somehow between both Episode 3 and Rebels he becomes a complete husk of a Jedi. They clearly want to portray all the OG characters as mentally broken. If *Mace Windu* somehow survived getting thrown out the window and electrocuted I would wager they would have him living out a halfway house addicted to spices and cut off from the force. If *Yoda* never died they would have had him living homeless on the streets of *Tatooine* begging for credits to eat day to day. OG Characters get treated so badly by Disney.
The MESSAGE is more important now unfortunately.
Where were you all this time, we know you are not dead.
Er...
Mace? "If" you survived? I won't point out the obvious here, but it's good to hear your take on this.
@@monsieurcommissaire1628 he wouldn't have died from hand chop or force lightning. As a jedi he could pull some bs to survive fall.
There are so very many, “A better story to tell here would be…” Like “Book of Boba Fett,” the large pieces are there, and a great story could be told here with stronger writers…. Hell; they could even push, “The MeSsAge!” IF it was wrapped in a strong enough story. Can you imagine if Kenobi was tripled down on training, turning himself into a weapon and part of his arc was realizing Luke needs to grow up and be a kid before any training is started AND needs to idolize the hero Anakin was before being told who Vader used to be. You could push anti-“toxic-masculinity” and push a Vader and Kenobi fight that has them beyond where they are in Revenge of the Sith to imply there were reasons they were pussyfooting around each other on the Death Star. Add some “Sith Training” scenes with Vader and Palpatine where he chastised Vader for thinking and fighting too much like a “Jedi” to make that “I was but a learner,” work. Jedi Master vs Sith Apprentice -
Leia's always been important but it's ridiculous how they have to elevate her by tearing down Luke and Obi-Wan.
They HAD to put Leia in, even with a shoehorn...that's why from the start they established that she knew she isn't Organa...why? why does she know that? why did they tell her?...it's just convenient...if she was 100% Organa she wouldn't have been in this series.
When did they ever tear down Luke
OR Obi-Wan really
it's because the force is female now, and there's only so much bad writers can do.
@@jorghaltehreffkyan4190 Ironically the light side is basically Yin and the dark side is Yang. Long story, the force is primarily based on Chinese Daoism. Which focuses on masculine and feminine energies.
@@harrambou9468 are you kidding!? lol.. Luke? Doctor Strange? Thor? Moon Knight? Loki? ..I could keep going mate, where you been?
Instead of making Obi less powerful. They should've made the stormtroopers more dangerous and a credible threat
They’re never a credible threat. One of my major gripes about Star Wars, even back to the OT.
@@TheRonaldbaxter - Except the first time we ever saw stormtroopers. They board the Tantive IV and blast their way through the rebel defenders.
After that the only achievements of the stormtroopers, such as taking Echo Base, happens offscreen. It bothers me because heroes look far less heroic when their opponents are so easy to defeat.
@@TheRonaldbaxter The torched carcasses of Owen and Beru would like a word with you.
@@kodyeldridge5847 Not sure killing two unarmed moisture farmers counts as being competent
@@mattj1829 The comment I replied to said they weren't a credible threat. That's all I was responding to.
Just look at the clone wars, Kenobi is a master at keeping secrets but in this show, Disney is sh*tting on him for reason.
Insane that the same guy who fought general grievous without hesitation and held his own against Anakin in his prime is now terrified to fight slow ass Darth Vader
Ever heard of ptsd? Plus 10 years went by
@@ninjanibba4259 didn’t stop him in a new hope
@@Shane8 yup, just trying to figure out how this show is gonna squeeze the filler for that one…..ugh
@@Shane8 Granted he literally has about 8 years to restore his hope.
@@Shane8 its possible he acquires qui gons help
I can see why Tom Cruise came out and admitted that he didn’t want to do a Top Gun sequel. Hollywood is destroying all of these masculine classic characters.
Top Gun: Maverick is a great example of what happens when people who have actual talent and love their work bring back beloved characters. The whole thing with Disney Star Wars is a great example of what happens when no-talent hacks and people who love their "agendas" bring back once-beloved characters.
How is obi wan destroyed in this show?
He seems to be reacting more or less how he should given everything that's happned. Or did you want snippy one liners and jumping from cars?
Cause this isnt the buddy cop movie Obi we got from the prequels.
This is the obi who failed his best friend, watched his whole life and reason for living be destroyed and defamed.
Did yall just want a campy romp thru the outer rim?
@@ZeSgtSchultz he doesnt have real powers anymore
He is a contrivance of a character now
@@oldlavygenes I agree with you 100%. “Joker” & the the newest Spider-Man movie got banned in China and look at how much both of those films made. A lot of these big budget films are being made to target the Chinese market. The people of China don’t care about story, character development, etc. That’s why the Transformer movies have huge plot holes lol!
The American people want good story, character development, etc. Look at the original Independence Day movie. Awesome story and characters. Now look at the crappy sequel, pure garbage!
Funny thing is that movies make a lot of their profit from the concessions as well. Now there’s a shortage of movie popcorn in theaters lol! Hollywood can thank Joe for that.
@@zach6210 How will this lead up to “A New Hope”? lol
The saddest, and most maddening, part of how The Mouse has sullied SW, is how there are STILL people who will gobble up whatever SW content Disney drops regardless of it's quality, citing every possible excuse. Disney needs a comparable drop in subscriptions as Netflix has if a message is to be received that they need to try a little harder. Not that it matters much now.
Whatever man, i’m pretty sure if you can’t enjoy something yourself it’s your own problem, not mine.
I wasn’t a fan of the sequels, but I ain’t taking the morally superior high ground over it. The shows on the other hand have been good. Mando was good, Boba was good (although a slow burn), and i’m enjoying Kenobi.
I don’t think you lot will ever be happy.
@@connoranderson7432 nothing to do with moral high ground, but simple economics of supply and demand. The audience is demanding things like respecting legacy characters, logical narratives, smart dialogue with subtext, etc. Disney is not supplying that. My point is to hold content producers accountable and hit them where it hurts: subscribers. Better content won't happen until this message is sent.
But to each their own, I guess. If vapid, mediocre content is your thing, more power to you for being able to shut your brain off. Enjoy :)
I think people are still holding out that it will improve, that Jon Favreau will (or might) be able to salvage it. I hope he does but I hold out little hope.
@@connoranderson7432 Boba was fucking awful.
@@connoranderson7432 You sure are making alot of comments about how you “dont care” that other people dont like it.
So with this version of Kenobi, how does Obi Wan kill Maul so easily in the timeline when Rebels happens? Because right now this version of Kenobi would have a hard time beating an old and worn out Maul. Or did Disney decide to off Rebels into "Legends" because they didn't create?
One of the worst aspects of Walt Disney is really showing up here. Take something that is someone else work and total change it to what they want.
Considering the killed The Grand Inquisitor and he isn't suppose to die until Rebels I don't think Disney cares about continuity🤦🏽♂️
@@kal0247 True, I remember getting pissed when that happened. Like oh cool he is in here let's see what happens and NOPE he is dead.
There are some theories going around that grand inquisitor survives and it changes him or something like that. We will see what happens in the next episodes.
@@kal0247 Presumably he survived and is just in a bacta tank somewhere so the writers could get him out of the way. Rebels takes place after this so he must have recovered.
@@BionicleFactory Agreed. This isn't a continuity issue... yet.
@@Gammadelta300 you and me both😮💨😮💨😮💨🤬this series could of be epic but they choose to ruin it in every way possible 😒
I was flamed a ton for claiming that the writing for this show was going to be shit.
Fuck them, I was right.
💯💯. You were indeed
Only going to get worse.
@@codysing1223 Inded
Find an office chair, double bird, spin around
Always up for a Razorfist reference.
They did the same thing in Wheel of Time, a character who’s a stoic killing machine, turning him into crying wuss who is completely incompetent. It’s the only way males are allowed to be written. That’s why Top Gun did so great. Everyone (yes men and women) are pining for a male character who is manly and kicks ass.
I went into that show with low expectations and it was still a bitter disappointment. I busted a gut laughing when Lan tore his shirt open at the funeral. It reminded me of when Andy Dufresne finally made his way out of the sewage pipe in Shawshank.
Which character was it? Cus tbh that description applies to alot of them in that show lol
"You did not hear me say leia" at least they could have made it a funny forgivable quip if he did that to the storm troopers
That would've been good writing. At the LEAST a bit of fan service. The writers aren't even good enough to do THAT.
That would be a cute line
I get why but it's honestly kind of insane to me how hard disney has gone on destroying the OG characters in order to elevate their weaker new characters. It's not a coincidence the old characters are male and usually white while the new characters are female and not always but frequently non-white. IMO the tear down of old characters to make the new characters look better is easily the worst writing choice one can make. It completely flies in the face of the monomyth blueprint too. All of it comes from this deep seated resentment and disrespect women have now for men in general.
You nailed it dante58, that is all SO true and so depressing. I'll never get over what they did to Luke. It still breaks my heart.
I'm a minority female...the problem with leftist ideology is that they feel they need to bring someone down in order to build someone else up...which is false. Strong characters will come out organically without having to devalue white males when the writing is done well.
In other words...I completely agree.
This is what they did to thor, in Ragnarok.
They made, thor’s situation and problems a joke. Thus making him a fool, making him weaker.
When elevating Valkyrie, a new character introduced into that movie; lacking any interest to her character.
She’s obnoxious, proud and smug. Yet, she gets to lead thors people…… because she’s a woman .
Coming from a woman myself, this is disgusting.
@@snowwhite5887 and she's a mexican viking too!!
They could have changed a few things, and pointed out a few things, to make some of the stuff in the show make sense. Namely Obi-Wan's hesitance to use his lightsaber. If they had to wherewithal to pretty much say;
"Look, I could use this weapon to cut down the empire's stormtroopers no problem. But then it gives me another problem. The damage a lightsaber does to a body is unique and unmistakable. Once the empire finds those bodies, it is only a matter of time before they realize that it was a lightsaber that killed them. What do you think will happen then? The empire will send a swarm of unnecessary troubles our way looking for a Jedi on the loose. THAT is why I hesitate to use this weapon, Leia. That is why I will resort to such uncivilized methods of combat. And NOTHING will change my course unless it becomes absolutely necessary for me to ensure your survival."
Right. That's what makes it so bizarre; in high sci-fi and fantasy, it's so EASY to invent bullshit like that without it being contrived or contradictory that any writer who fails to do it, and instead has plot holes, is just an incompetent buffoon. In a more grounded setting and plot, it can be harder to account for every little "What if?" the audience may ask, but they could easily explain how he can't use the Force willy-nilly because a guy like Vader can, even from a great distance, sense that shit, at least enough to give him a direction to search. But nah.
"You can kill me, but you can not destroy me" - Obi-Wan Kenobi
Oh Obi-Wan if you only knew what Disney had planned for you. :(
The dark side of Hollywood can lead to powers that many consider to be unnatural.
I mean, Alec Guinness didn't give a shit about the role. So at least there's that. Plus he's dead.
Hamil though... He protested every step of the way and no one listened. They did him dirty.
"It takes strength to resist the Dark Side"
RiP Satine
@@plzletmebefrank Then you have Sebastian Shaw(the actor who played Anakin in ROTJ) who LOVED playing Anakin in his brief screentime
Another stupid thing: We can’t see any character growth with Kenobi or Skywalker because we’re picking up midstream in their lives. We know who they were and who they’ll become, so the emotional heart of the show has to be another character, someone we can see grow. I wouldn’t have chosen Leia as the primary, but okay. Instead of giving us a place to go, though, they drop her in roughly fully formed, already possessing the strong-willed qualities that make her a leader later on. She should have started out as a pampered teenage princess, but the kidnapping is what transforms her, along with the help of Kenobi. He helps bring out the Padme, and perhaps even scolds her for being a little too Anakin. But no. I guess they decided that would send a wrong message to girls, so instead we get a fully-formed character (who would be a SENATOR were it not for her whimsy) played by a too-young actress who thinks she’s in a cheesy 90s sitcom. Soldiers? Dead people? Sith Inquisitors? FLEA? Nope, not scared.
If I may, my liege: FUCK OFF, SHOW.
God, no. Her starting out as a pampered spoiled princess would have been awful. There’s no reason to think she’d be that way. And this DOES show her growth. She’s the same person we have seen-there never was a sign she was spoiled or unduly pampered-but we see her start to realize the value in service and working for others.
It's pretty sad when commenters on a YT video can come up with a better story arc than paid professional writers in one paragraph.
Exactly! He’s just tagging along with some snotty little kid(who btw got the job cause daddy is a Hollyweird exec) for 3 episodes so far, which completely wasted time on his character arc. Now it appears that the 3 remaining shows will give mini me Leia and Reeeeva the most screen time. Just watch!!!
But since this isn’t a Obi Wan show(despite his name on the title) KK and her minions ultimately pulled off the greatest bait n switch tv series Disney ever produced, and they’re laughing at us right now.
SW is dead folks.
@@katrose5179 Fair enough. There’s just not enough meat on these bones.
@@xyshomavazax I can agree on that. Honestly, I would like to see part of what you commented; Obiwan scolding her for being a little too like Anakin. Temperament-wise, she took after Anakin while Luke took after Padme. If there’s not a scene where she loses her temper or does something reckless and dangerous and Obiwan reacts because he sees the Skywalker in her-maybe even raises his voice or gets angry-that would be missed opportunity.
Modern Lucasfilm thinks that people trained in a skill from the age of 2 into adulthood can just forget how to use said skill over the course of a year, really just brilliant.
Right. It's like Michael Jordan while he was playing baseball; pretty sure he still would have kicked the asses of 99.5% of the population in a game of basketball. There's a difference between "I've forgotten how to do trick beer pong shots since I got out of college" and "I've forgotten how to do things as intrinsic to my everyday existence as putting pants on."
That’s because that’s how they live
How also was he supposed to train Luke? He actually says to Owen “he must be trained...” - by who, if he’s lost all his abilities how is he possibly supposed to train Luke?
Vader came to him outta fuckin nowhere.
I know it’s Obi-Wan, but let’s not forget
Darth Vader is _Darth Vader._
@@harrambou9468 ...and what does that have to do with anything?
My take is that Obi-Wan is just going through the motions. He is watching over Luke because he was tasked to by Yoda. Now that he knows that Anakin is alive maybe that will jolt him out of the funk has been in for the last ten years.
@@davidmun1601 yeah it's crazy that people don't get it.
Forgive me for mentioning The Last Jedi, but you don't need a strong connection to the Force to train someone in the ways of the Force, because that's exactly what Luke did with Rey, and he had completely shut himself off from the Force entirely for a time.
This series undoes:
- Vader in ANH: "Now I am the Master"
- Leia not remembering not only meeting Kenobi, but also being saved by him.
Yeah I definitely saw that ANH scene as being the first time they fought since Mustafar. I was acting hoping during that interaction in Ep 3 that they at least wouldn’t fight, so as not to break continuity.
Also "the force will be with you, always"
I bet you love in episode 4 when they are sneaking across a huge wide open hanger full of storm troopers and officers and Lea is "hiding" under Kenobi's trench coat that stops about 2 feet from the floor. NONE of the dozens of enemy in the hanger notice Kenobi has sprouted a second pair of legs and that they are little girl legs.
“The director of this show is an absolute…..”
Fill in the blank for him
As drinker is Scottish I think this would be appropiate:
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Nerf herder.
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Obi-Wan to Leia: "How old are you?"
Yes, he literally asked her that in this episode AFTER reminding two different people that ten years had gone by in the previous episode.
@@violetisgaylmao Oh give me a break. There were a million other ways for him to say something like that without asking such an idiotic question. It was clearly BAD writing.
@@violetisgaylmao literally saying it
@@violetisgaylmao "Aren't you supposed to be 10?"
"For a 10 year old you are a little smartass"
@@violetisgaylmao OMG! Right after I watched that part I said OUT LOUD "Why didn't they just have him say, 'You don't sound like a ten year old.'" GET A BRAIN.
He wasn't directly asking her how old she actually was lol
The writing is bad, but you just simply didn't catch the sarcasm in this line
I was out after they made Leia existentially annihilate her “cousin” at ten years old. Pandering. Dumb. Bad. Not surprised it only got worse.
What pandering?
@@Ravenbones this person doesn’t know what that word means I think lmao
@@connoranderson7432 yea not even going to entertain his question. If he doesn’t get it, that’s a whole other problem.
The problem is there are no male protagonist any more in Disney. They exist to prop up the supporting cast and hopefully spawn a spin off Reva series. Luke existed to make Rey look good and nearly every other legacy character just exist to set up the next generation. But since they can't write a good new character they have to destroy the old ones to make the new characters look good.
Mark my words, Reva will be the hero in the end. The show is secretly a subversive Hero's Journey about her.
It's so funny how only white men we see in this show were casted by George Lucas 20 years ago and not by Disney...
@@realjoedee if any the leaked rumors are true she's going to have a epic change of heart, stand up to Vader and "die" to him. Though if she stays dead is a real question. Either way the character growth of the series mostly seems to be Reva growing a conscious and suddenly not wanting to kill kids any more.
You know despite being a psycho path just hacking people for the heck of it right now.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming And it'll be Leia that turns her. You know that's where this going.
The Reva character was only created so they can have a black female play her.
Hollywood Creatives : "Why does everyone hate us" Hollywood Answer : "The fans are barbaric,uncouth and uncool and we're not"
So glad I found this. I was searching for some sort of sanity around this show from Drinker and checking the main channel for it.
When Leia said *"bring him back"* i just realized... that character, has Kathleen Kennedy OVER-written all over it. You can just see how they'll be using this as the "Empowering little girls" marketing strategy that they did with Rey but now up to a hundred
... you couldn't have guessed that by nature of it simply being a younger version of Leia and the obvious implications for rewriting her that would bring?
Like seriously. Of course they're going to turn an actually interesting strong female character who was a genuine icon and role model for girls to look up to and try to be like... And make them just a forced political mouthpiece and a weaker inferior version of themselves.
The girl manages to act decently in spite of it but... Clearly there's some fun things going on in the writing room. And I don't think any of the actors are ingrained or care enough to point it out like Hamil did in the sequels. Not that anyone listened.
Aight now y’all are looking for reasons to complain
@@harrambou9468 Eh. Maybe that's fair, maybe it's not. Obi-Wan's story was conclusive and flush. Nothing sticking up or any real mess going on.
This? This is a bit messy. Though, going into the Leia gripe is... Definitely a bit much more than anyone, including myself, needs to do.
Though her inclusion is definitely more about marketing than writing.
@@harrambou9468 you are such a normie
You're reaching too far
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I can't even bring myself to do that these days with all this "content." They've actually made me avoid even watching new movies & series for free.
@@owen1079 yeah time is valuable too
I was so tired of these people ruining characters, I decided to start my own comic company in my spare time. It's time for us to make our own heroes and universes. We're already working on issue #2 of one of our books. Exciting times!
Hope everything goes well
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I got to give it up to the hardcore fans that love the show. How does a Jedi lose their connection to the force. It’s inside him and all around him. It’s in all things and makes up reality. Wtf. Mauler is right Luke just stopped using it and chose to disconnect which doesn’t make sense but Ok. Now Kenobi losing the power is stupid.
Jedi losing use of the Force isn’t new. KOTOR 2 did that.
@@afierymess2307 so did fallen order. It's a crappy trope at this point. Would be interesting if they did it less often
It's not a superpower, though. It's not something a character just has and that's it, but then again Spider-Man 2 played with the idea of Peter loosing his powers as he lost his confidence--and that's considered a great movie. Now the Kenobi series has its issues, don't get me wrong, but the Force is very much a symbolic/spiritual thing that can come and go depending on the mental state of the character, and this idea is hardly new in the franchise.
They could still blow it in the next three episodes, but so far I personally haven't seen anything that feel egregious or inconsistent with what we've seen before. Perhaps we should wait for the mini-series' story arc to be completed before we write it off as a failure.
I get that there are some stupid writing decisions in this show and its fair to criticize them, but this is a very faithful adaptation of Kenobi from the comics. Mauler mentions that he isn't using the two most powerful tools in his arsenal the Force, and his Lightsaber, but if he uses either it is going to draw attention to himself and Luke. If he uses the Force, Vader is instantly going to sense that and track him down, and a lightsaber is to recognizable as a Jedi's weapon so of course he wouldn't use it. BUT at some point in this show he has to retrain his connection to the Force, so if that doesn't happen then yeah I'd be pissed at this show too.
@@clampmotosua1789 KOTOR 2 did it far better than Fallen Order. There is a reason it’s considered one of the best Star Wars games ever.
I have never written anything in my life, this series has given me the confidence that even I can do a lot better than this, a few plotlines spring to mind...
Hey you should give writing some short stories a try, great place to start and fun to send to friends.
I’ve seen better stories on fanfiction sites
I'm with @@adanalyst6925, if you've got an idea I think you should go for it. There are plenty of people out there to support you
"Why is this show?"
That, my friend, is the right question.
We need Reva to say "You need to do better, Emperor!" Damn, the writing on this show is awful.
Then she personally pulls the lever on the death star.
Reva will turn up and teach the Force how to "better"
the dialogue in a lot of the star wars flicks is dog $h!t!!!
In the next episode Reva will accidentally pull out a Hair Straightener instead of her lightsaber.
The writing in all star wars films are awful
"We'll pretend you're my daughter."
"Granddaughter maybe...."
Your ACTUAL dad is older and greyer than Obi-Wan.
God I hated that line.
Why are so many people complaining about this
Leia’s a stubborn kid...Obi-Wan’s a lot more haggard than Bail too
Y’all just want reasons to complain at this point. It certainly ain’t perfect but they’re trying a hell of a lot more than they were with the bullshit we got before
@@harrambou9468 nah man nah
Lol so true!
@@harrambou9468 because it’s a stubborn kid who grew up having a dad older than kenobi? Why would she say this garbage? The answer is because the writers couldn’t think up of a funny line but must have comedy somewhere
After making that quip about his age, she asked if Obi-Wan was her dad. Does she think so lowly about her birth mother that she thinks she chases men twice her age?
Also, shouldn't that logic make her excited or scared that she could also have Jedi powers? Especially with all this adventuring and getting chased by the Empire, she should have made the connection of how dangerous the implication is to her.
In some older material it was said that surviving Jedi had to be careful about using their powers for two main reasons. The first was that doing crazy things via the force where people could see it would start rumors that would spread.
Secondly, using the force would create "ripples" in it. This could be sensed sometimes at great distances, as was seen in the original movies. Eventually this could attract the assassins or even Vader himself. So, Obi Wan was supposed to have been in hiding and essentially training at very low levels to avoid detection.
Yes, this. That's why Yoda went to Dagobah. He went to live near a nexus of dark force energy so it would basically hide him and cloak whatever he might do there.
If that's true (and if so it should've been explained far more clearly in the first episode), it still doesn't explain why he's so bumbling and unwise. You don't have to use the force to have vision. Obi-Wan should be written as wise and knowing, like a true Jedi. This character is not Obi-Wan Kenobi.
It would be cool if they didn't shit on everything else and kept only that as a reason to make Obi Wan weak. That could have been a challenge for Obi Wan to continue his Force training unnoticed. But even in the world in this series they created, it doesn't make much sense and isn't explained well.
My brother said last night "what if Obi Wan dies and Reva now turned good and feeling bad about killing Obi Wan has some surgery to make her look like Obi-Wan and takes over his mission for him". I laughed then immediately got nervous cause I could see it happening 😅 😬
It's not just the writers. Ewan McGregor, especially in a producing role, is very much to blame. When David Tennant won his NTA special recognition, Catherine Tate makes mention of the fact that he realised he was a custodian of the Dr Who character and he took it seriously. The lack of humility and respect for these stories boggles my mind.
As much as fans complained about Lucas, he really knew how to keep order within the franchise.
It’s what happens when you leave the inmates to run the asylum, they need some fucking order in that place, commentor above me is spot on
perfect comment , the inmates are running the asylum now .
I've not watched this show yet but it sounds similar to the Picard situation. Where the lead actor is given far too much control simply to bribe them back in to the role, and that they either don't understand or don't care what the character is.
@@garym6315 exactly like picard , unfortunately watched the disaster of the first season , then bailed . i always wondered how these actors willingly destroy characters that have a huge fan base , and those same fans will gladly watch anything else they in . these actors feel like puppets who are willfully forced into a situation . knowing everything about disney star wars , it is a pity they came back to these roles .
I have been wondering why Obi-wan is unable to contact Qui-gon. Yoda assigned him this task in _Revenge of the Sith._ The events of this series are supposedly a decade thereafter, but he has still not managed to reach out to him. How?
Liam Neeson was too expensive.
@@BWMagus 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Remember how much hype this concept had? Disney Star Wars can’t do anything right
Most of us like Mando and Rebels. So it's jarring to see them be this inconsistent.
@@Ryuksgelus yeah, they're not devoid of quality. Even some of the books and comics and one game (Fallen Order) are perfectly good. The problem is that they're insanely inconsistent, there's a divide between those who want to deconstruct Star Wars and those who actually love it and just want to tell good stories, and when they do mess up, there's absolutely no justification for it because success was basically teed up for them if they would just get out of their egos and actually listen to what people want.
Did you actually expect any different though? I was hyped because some actors were returning but I just knew they would botch it
Nothing they have done is any good, the sequel movies, Mandalorian, Boba Fett etc etc, there all just trash content
@@Tyler_W I want to know what the frick the Lucasfilm story group is doing.
F**king up since 2013, that's what. Get off your ass, Pablo Hidalgo!
This “show” is disgusting and an insult. They should learn with Netflix and just fire all the woke bs people from their company.
@Blazer agreed he is right... There seems to be some paid Disney hacks on this comment section
Well, they have more than enough cause with the stock value drop. They could clear out entire divisions.
@visible finally these nuts
And yet your still watching
Disney is too big to fail.
When he said Leia instead of Luna I honestly thought the stormtroopers were going to arrest him for kidnapping of an imperial senators child.
Leia never met Obi-Wan in 'Star Wars : A New Hope', that fact alone invalidates this whole story.
Sorry Never met him PRIOR TO 'Star Wars' A New Hope'.
She spoke of Ben Kenobi as someone she knew when Luke broke her out of that cell on the Death Star.
@@marieandemerson1555 no. “You served my father during the clone wars, now HE begs you …” not “you rescued me from kidnapping and now I beg you help me again”
@@marieandemerson1555 In the message Luke Found she addressed him as "General Kenobi, Years Ago You Served My Father In The Clone Wars" - she was addressing a man she never knew - when Luke broke her out she just said "General Kenobi, WHERE IS HE?"
She knew a Name.
@@josiahcmiller EXACTLY - that holographic message was to a total stranger.
People really need to avoid using "depression", "trauma", and "PTSD" in their sentences and stories. Those words lose their true meaning when they became mainstream. Its gotten to a point where it's very cancerous that Disney always these words to justify their bad characterization and shitty writing in Marvel and Star Wars.
I agree with this. Jedi, as written in the original Star Wars films, are wise sages who are connected with the Universe. It is not possible that such beings would ever suffer from PTSD, or that it would even be possible for them to cut themselves off from their connection to the force.
Disney basically don't understand the mythology.
@@richardsimpson2439 Holy shit this is the dumbest thing I’ve ever read. The story of Vader is literally built on the principles of Jedi NOT. WORKING.
Oh I’m sorry characters experiencing trauma in a realistic way hurts your precious perception of them as a larger than life entity with no flaws
@@mr.stuffdoer8483
It is not realistic at all.
I have served in war and have seen people get injured and many have died yet it does not play out like it does in the TV show.
Obi Wan is a writers mentally retarded character nothing else.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 People experience trauma all the time and rise above it in real life. What's unrealistic about that? Especially if you've been trained to control your emotions from a very young age.
Thank you, my favorite part is when they ask obi Wan the first time, hey can you help us, and he's like naaaah, get a bounty hunter.... what a hero
"Wokeness" isn't even the worst part of Kenobi. It's just a terribly written show. If all the characters were straight while males with the same writing it would still be terrible. It's just BAD.
making all the characters straight white males wouldn't make any movie or show better
@@pauloricardo-wn6ps Let me know when my comment actually catches up to you.
@@elaguajdo he definitely stopped reading before you said would still be terrible
Yeah but when you have bad writing and wokeness. That is a lil toooo much.
@@Ajxskyline I don't disagree, but the "Wokeness" isn't going away anytime soon. Poor writing can be fixed much more quickly and easily. The fact that they have Both at Disney is, of course, the crux of a larger problem.
Star Wars has become a sad joke and an example of what happens when writers who have no appreciation for the franchise prioritize THE MESSAGE over the story.
It really has. Star Wars has become a Fanfiction
@@chasehedges6775 Like Marvel, Doctor Who, Star Trek, and soon enough Lord of The Rings, and so many others.
I havent seen any of THE MESSAGE in this.
I saw it all over halo, some on boba and mando, but I havent here.
The evil diversity hire is literally awful at her job, you dont find that funny?
Leia is a bit over powered, but I mean, it's not like shes gunna die in the show, we know that.
Then stop watching.
@@chasehedges6775 thats how it started. Hidden fortress fan fiction.
Watching the first 2 episodes I was literally thinking "Can't wait what the Critical Drinker will say about this"
Odd moments for me: Reva's big intro walk, obi-wan not taking the truck, and Vader not trying to get obi wan after he burnt him and got separated by the flames.
Let's not forget other ridiculous things like Toddler Potato Leia with T-Rex Arms being able to outrun three grown mercenaries, an Inquisitor, and a gorram Jedi Master... ugh...
He's useless so that a brave and stunning diverse character can show up and save the day.
It’s Picard all over again. I was expecting someone to tell Obi-wan “sheer fucking hubris”
As long as Disney has Star Wars, men will always be portrayed as imperfect fools destined to failure without the perfect female to protect them. Most of us knew this when Lucas sold out. We were right.
I wonder if Star war’s will forever belong to Disney or some other company would be able to take control of it by buying it from Disney, I would be so happy if some good company or just any company at this point takes over Star Wars so Disney won’t make more trash
This episode was such a missed opportunity! The troopers on the transport could’ve been like “screw rules and regs, it’s hot!” and taken off their helmets! We could’ve had Freck, the troopers and Obi Wan having a casual discussion but instead, no, these random troopers on a transport think they’re gonna be the ones to catch Obi Wan and they start interrogating for the thousandth goddam time!
Honestly that's what I partially anticipated but yeah the 'long story' doesn't even last 5 minutes.
The show had so much potential, but something struck me about the show that pretty much ruins it once you realize it. The overall arc of the story is leading towards Obi-Wan getting his 'mojo' back - his confidence, his sense of purpose, his Jedi powers, etc.
And to do what? Sit in a cave for another 20 years or so? It basically has no point.
Lucasfilm is the equivalent of a gravedigger, going from classic character to classic character, digging them up and parading them around for easy money. They don’t care about the characters or the quality of the story, they just want the easy brand recognition. Star Wars fans need to stop giving them money or they won’t stop
Totally agree with your point, but you mean graverobber. Gravediggers are the guys that make the grave in the first place: an important and thankless job.
When people start staying avoiding this show, then they'll wake up.