Mr. Jaggi Vasudev helped me discover the word ‘Obscurantism’. I wish that we as a country rediscover why ‘scientific temper’ is considered a duty in our constitution. Much love to you Krish! :)
Absolutely brilliant video created and should be seen by all clear thinking people. Sometimes these godmen get carried away and speak not only obscure things but with little knowledge......they have a personality cult and get carried away. Well done Krish. You are the best of the best.
There’s so much to learn from you including your content. The approach, the sequencing of thoughts, the articulation of ideas, the methodicalness of explaining, using simplified yet needful scientific terms (that improves my knowledge) and simply the assertive- respectfulness in countering some established idea. It takes a higher level of intellect and self righteousness to show ‘the other side of the coin’ that is not popular. Thank you.
Spat my smoothie out at "and the older me... Is still atheist" 😂 Also a part of Group 2, let me just applaud your ability to not be condescending (esp at the lunar eclipse one 😬😬)
This modern understanding of foods and nutrition is pseudo-science at best which varies wildly across sources and most of it is based on questionable sources much less peer reviewed. The problem with this video is cherry picking sources and passing it off as "science" on par with physical sciences.
but both the user and reviewer could be a sell out. Just because something is said to be based on science doesn't gaurantee the people behind it are honest.
@@sumedhwale Absolutely, navigating the world of dietary advice can be bewildering. Even among esteemed scientific journals, you’ll find studies with differing conclusions about what’s healthy and what’s not. The reason for this is multifaceted: Evolving Science: Nutritional science is constantly evolving. New discoveries often reshape our understanding. Study Design: The design and methodology of studies can vary greatly, leading to different results. Some studies might be observational, while others are randomized controlled trials. Population Differences: What works for one group of people might not work for another due to genetic, environmental, and lifestyle differences. Confounding Factors: Many studies struggle to isolate specific dietary factors from other variables that could influence results. Given these complexities, the best approach is often to follow balanced, evidence-based guidelines and listen to your body’s unique needs.
@@sreeyt The main reason is that there is no comprehensive model of human body, for example, that can help model the effect of foods etc in a precise or even approximate way. The complexity of human body means that all these nutritional studies are mostly hit and trial samples, so passing these as "science" is very disingenuous. At best these are statistical studies based on extremely small samples over a very limited duration of time.
@@sreeyt Effectively these nutritional studies are hardly different from "anecdotal" evidence albeit with somewhat larger samples in some cases. There are very very few things that are established on firm grounds after being observed consistently over a very large number of studies. In most cases those conclusions are not very different from what we know from our traditional knowledgebase. Either way the point being that passing it off as "science" is plain falsehood. Of course, nowadays folks hardly care about what "science" actually implies and you have all kinds of stuff labeled as a "science" to provide some kind of higher level of legitimacy to it. Just like in the past (and occasionally even today) people used to write stuff as they please and pass it off as legitimate shastra.
Loved the video. I follow Sadhguru (watch his videos and feel he has clarity on most of the things, I surely get direction from his speeches / ideas ). And I am not at all offended / angry with your video, rather I am supportive of true peer review of any scientific claim. Aligned with your thought of focusing on wholistic diet than demonizing one food. But on the other hand , I also thank Sadhguru for guiding us with an overall direction for a large population of people who are lost in this chaotic / noisy environment where everyone is influencer. People like him are needed for most of us . Ultimately , we need both sides of the arguments so that people can select based on their intellect, and hence I love this video (other than being your fan anyway ;) ) … P.S : you did a great job explaining the thought process at the beginning. Loved it. Please keep up the great work you are doing.
This is the kind of logical explanation I'm happy to see on UA-cam from time to time. You don't need to pick sides, pick people and so on. Each of us has some flaws and some virtues. Which ones you let shine through decide the quality of your interactions and shape your character as a human being. It's just with people who are constantly in the limelight - for one reason or another - their flaws and virtues get accentuated a lot. And the way mainstream media or social media parrots our negativity biases can color perceptions, but it's important to maintain critical thinking and acknowledge duality.
Dear Mr. Ashok, Your channel is the perfect example of how to use your voice for good. It serves as a reminder for others that we all have a voice and we should use it to dispel myths, respectfully and factually stand up to bad ideas, myths disguised in clothes of religion. I especially loved the introduction of Dushyant Sridhar, what a refreshing and humble person accepting others to drive home your point. Well done.
This is how you respectfully disagree. You have voiced what many of us who like Sadhguru cringe about when he makes scientific claims about food. Thank you!
This video gave me so much peace after a very long time. Mr. Ashok said the words which I felt for years but couldn't gather the words to speak out loud. Thank you so much ❤
Hi Krish, it's amazing to me how you're so calm talking about this, coming up with counter logic and real scientific info. And here I am, screaming "bullsh!t" when you were showing part of his speeches. I am a physicist, and he messed up with my field too, along with many other so-called "Goldman"s. I belong to the second category that you said, but I respect others points of view, and that includes religious or spiritual beliefs. But when someone messes up with my subject, or the whole science in general, I call that "bullsh!t" right away.
Basic courtesy - Not having the integrity to address appropriately what others hold sacred because personally don't hold anything to that level of sanctity so how can he relate!
Absolutely loved this video! Very rational, logical and well thought out and explained. This is how one ought to disagree and critique gracefully! Thank you for setting such a great example, sir!
'... and often these suggestions are accompanied by scientific sounding explanations. If you use science, someone will peer review'. That's very well put. It highlights the core essence of science.
I love the way you approach, critisize in a constructive manner to show what is actually wrong and why, and not by making the relation of love hate, rather in a gray area
Fantastic. Respectfully done. On a lighter note, The first seven minutes is Krish Ashok saying, “Irunga bhai” The next 20 minutes is us saying, “avlo thaan mudichu vitteenga ponga!”
Actually many might get turned off by your thumbnail and not see this wonderful video. I too thought you might be talking about his personal life or his spiritual outlook, but i just listened out of curiosity and realised you are spot on. I too think like you get into lots of arguments with my mom and elders from my brahmin family with their claims regarding sathvik diets.
It cuts both ways. If the thumbnail was sedate, then a larger number of people simply don't click. I'd rather people click out of morbid interest and then hopefully stay for a sane discussion
I appreciate your efforts in educating us about food choices. However, I noticed a few aspects that might benefit from further exploration: 19:41 Diversity in food choices doesn’t equate to all being equally beneficial. Different foods affect our physical, mental, and spiritual states in unique ways. Recognizing certain foods as “better” for specific goals isn’t disrespecting diversity-it simply acknowledges their suitability for certain purposes. 22:54 You question the effect of negative pranic foods by focusing on their nutrition, like seafood. While it’s nutritious, it’s classified as tamasic in terms of the energy (prana) it imparts, which is different from its nutritional content. Prana and nutrition serve distinct purposes. 23:19 No one, including Sadhguru, is forcing or looking down on anyone for eating non-vegetarian food. For example, Sadhguru mentions eating seafood is the best thing to do in a coastal region and even otherwise. This doesn’t imply any judgment on others' choices, but rather situational flexibility. I noticed your shirt humorously (perhaps, intentionally too) says, “Illa enakku puriyala (No, I don’t understand)”. When exploring complex topics like prana in food, it’s helpful to deepen understanding before forming conclusions. Perhaps finding clarity on these aspects could add even more depth to your content 🙏🏻
Thank you for your well-thought out (and polite) comment. On the first point, yes, different foods affect different people differently, which is exactly why one specific idea of "good food" simply does not exist. On seafood, the very idea of it being classified as negative comes from a bias against animal sources of nutrition (with the convenient exception of milk, which again suggests that geographical bias of those ideas that are being passed off as universal).
Very beautifully put video. I am initiated into Sadhguru's yoga but I keep him and his advice separate from his Yogic practices. I definitely not a blind follower of him, as he says as well to his followers too, but I'm happy to see you doing a scientific check on his food advices. I loved your taxonomy of food in Satvic, Rajsik and Tamsic categories. Thanks for sharing.
Sir the classification of sattvic or tamasic is for spiritual progress of the spiritual seekers not for everyone in general ...this classification is found in Bhagavat Gita also
This Triune Reality is God’s signature, a divine pattern found throughout the realms of the sublime. It permeates our understanding of time, space, God, and consciousness. However, it eludes the gross relationships of everyday life. The Triune Truth is evident in life’s subtle relationships, recognized by those engaged in such understanding. In yogic science as Satvic, Rajasic and Tamasic, In Vedic as Rishi, devata and chanddas. In Ayurveda it call the three Dosas; Vata,Pita ans Kapha..Religionists describe it as the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; psychiatrists as the superconscious, conscious, and subconscious; spiritualists as mind, body, and spirit; scientists as energy, matter, ether. Philosophers assert that a thing isn’t true until it is true in thought, word, and deed. When it comes to time, we speak of the past, present, and future, and in spatial terms, we see here, there, and the space in between. In gross relationships, there are no in-betweens, just dyads-left-right, up-down, big-small, fast-slow, hot-cold, and male-female. Nothing exists without its opposite, forming the basis of most daily experiences. Conversely, in sublime relationships, there are no opposites-everything is one, progressing in a never-ending circle. Time, as a sublime realm, encompasses past, present, and future interrelationally, parts of the same whole, progressing ideas, cycles of energy, aspects of an immutable Truth. Indeed, past, present, and future coexist simultaneously.
It has been proven empirically that most Indian godmen are dubious characters- many of the well-established with a vast following have accumulated huge movable (extremely pricey cars, for instance, as the one under discussion currently) and immovable properties (schools is a favourite big business) have even landed in jail for fraud. Almost everything they say, in particular about food, has no scientific basis as you have rightly explained. Thanks a million, Krish for this video, which is timely and badly needed.
This is probably the most brilliant of your videos and maybe one of the best I have ever seen on UA-cam. It should apply to every aspect of life, not just to food. Would make the world a lot more tolerant and a better place. Have just signed up as a member ❤️
@kirshashok I know the classification of food into sattvic, rajasic and tamasic is something which you dont agree and I also agree that intellect is not linked to these classification of food. However, this classification is only for spiritual purpose - eating sattvic help one in meditation. This is something you can experience while staying in ashram. However this classification doesnt mean anything to working class - who need energy to work 8 hours, protein to build muscles and caffeine to get the day started. The moment you change gear to spiritual evolution then these thing do count.
Like you say most people work 8+ hrs a day and this classification does not apply to them. People who enjoy being in ashram, in peace who spend a lot less energy can live off of ash guard juice. and yes, peaceful places help in meditation, not everything is about food.
Firstly, thanks for the video. I can understand its hard to go up against such figures. Heres a thought on channels and viewership. Big numbers doesn't mean that everyone is able to a) watch entire videos b) understand every sentence c) remember everything they watched d) follow the advice they heard, or use the info they got. In that sense, much of what i've heard from gurus is just 'in one ear, out the other'. We then go back to the way we lived always. This is why, while some influencers may have large audiences, their actual effect is very small. I do believe that those who like your thought process are in fact those who are already like you. It is very unlikely that the other side (or sides) will change teams, because of your words. People who dont like science, simply think its another religion, with a different vocabulary. The difference is not clear to them. You can't be scientific without a certain level of education. And even then, sometimes not. And, science needs a certain individual agency with regard to testing things for oneself, and that seems to be fundamentally missing in many people. We were taught science, without the habit of testing anything, rather we were supposed to just believe textbooks. That's the opposite of science. The miracle might be that some of us still haven't lost this habit of testing things out for oneself. Science isnt just the vocabulary, the technical terms, the jargon. But thats exactly what some people believe, and they attempt to adopt the terminologies with no mind to what they represent. Your efforts are up against an unimaginably large section of people who are never gonna understand it. Hate is the outcome, when people fail to understand. Its pure frustration. For there's nothing the modern man hates than to feel left out. For that, I felt I had to come out and say - thanks for doing it anyway.
Excellent , felt like you r reading my mind. I respect Sadhguru and benefitted from inner engineering yog practice Yog stimulates our parasympathetic system . Parasympathetic means rest digest and happy Sympathetic system means flight fight and fear
Krish Ashok, thank you for exposing Sadhguru’s tactics of twisting pseudoscience into something that looks like wisdom. Sadhguru’s teachings are not just misleading-they’re dangerous. His disregard for genuine science, coupled with his immense influence, makes him a threat to rational thinking and public understanding. It’s high time society sees through this and holds him accountable for misleading people. Thanks for bringing attention to these harmful, exploitative claims
I am studying in a western nation for a few months now. It's Norway. Fish, meat, and potatoes are their traditional food. They exercise a lot especially jogging and hiking. And man, they're fit. They also have great water and air quality. Also they value work-life balance and like to spend time with family. Their food might not be the tastiest, but they definitely are very healthy.
Hi Krish, Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this Video. You communicated your message with such respect, objectivity, and balance-it was really impressive. Every time, you give me more reasons to admire the depth of your research and the way you clearly and thoughtfully lay out your points. Keep up the great work!
Because you are open minded, I wanted to tell you, I think tamas, rajas and satva are diff from what is called good and bad food. This categorisation is more about which food is good for whom their activities in a day or their goal in life. It is also important to know who his ordinances are and when it was told. Maybe, he was telling south Indians who are addicted to western foods😅. It is very very difficult to always be right. Including people who are called god men, or calling themselves godmen, ordinary or extraordinary people, which again includes you, me all of us. I don't think, I can tell a sentence that is going to be true forever. He is talking about so many things to to so many people, I don't expect him to be right in everybody's perspective. I like him bcz, I just feel, he is something more than others. If the discussion was truly about ideas, please don't keep the title as 'The problem with Sadhguru'. Attract people using ideas not someone's name or title whatever.
These are the people who should be involved in planning meals for children No eggs for kids in the school meals comes from bias against poor malnourished kids
I suggest not to miss the first five mintues. It's a superb advice not just for this video, but for everything in life. Another great video by Ashok. PS. If you have not read Masala lab yet, I highly recommend doing so. It's as entertaining as informative, with a lot of interesting illustrations by Ashok ( and his brother).
Question everything and accept nothing without reason; every truth must earn its place through proof and understanding. Your curiosity and way of questioning things is such a reminder to look deeper and not just take things at face value.
There’s a fourth kind that just likes learning and you explain something we interact with everyday (food) yet don’t think more inquisitively about its chemistry.
Let me begin with appreciating how sensible and objective you always are. It's wholesome to see the way you spent enough time on the prologue on how this video is about what and not who is right or wrong and that brilliance in one field need not and often does not translate to brilliance in a totally different field. As a Sadhguru initiate myself, I really enjoyed your video and admire your compassionate and measured approach. However there is one major point where I largely differ. It is about your stand on how people need to eat according to their situation and surroundings. While it may be true to a tiny fraction of humanity in extraordinary situations, the wide SCIENTIFIC concensus remains that.... "No, humans don't need to consume largely different foods based on region or season, given modern food systems and environmental controls." Here's why: 1. Global food distribution networks provide access to diverse foods year-round. 2. Climate-controlled environments minimize seasonal variations. 3. Modern agriculture ensures consistent food availability, regardless of region or season. 4. Nutritional requirements remain relatively constant across regions and seasons. However, considering regional and seasonal factors can still offer benefits: 1. Supporting local economies and sustainable agriculture. 2. Promoting cultural and culinary diversity. 3. Optimizing nutrient intake based on regional and seasonal variations. Scientific evidence supports a balanced diet tailored to individual needs, rather than geographical or seasonal factors. Sources: 1. National Institutes of Health (NIH) - "Dietary Guidelines for Americans" 2. World Health Organization (WHO) - "Healthy Diet" 3. Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics - "Eating Seasonally"
All Indian dishes are not balanced and nutritious, in fact ,we have forgotten the art of healthy cooking and are primarily focused on taste and quick meals.
Very informative video, wish Sadhguru would stop using “Science” in his advices. We need more people like you to teach Indians to use critical thinking.
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I love how your channel provides a perspective and well reasoned insight into your Indian culture I'm normally not exposed to. Thank you!
Fantastic video... Hit the nail on the head! However one point I beg to differ- eating non veg is again not compassionate right... Knowingly or unknowingly the person is instrumental in inflicting cruelty.. Not to judge the person.. But the act.
You are true intellectual. Some phony intellectuals just counter him by calling him Sadguru, Thats bullying. However, you missed Sadhguru' drinking kobra venum. Its on youtube. I wonder why his bhakts dont try venom to get super stoned like him.
Beautiful video....just one thought came to my mind there is someone who is thinking clearly and expressing his thoughts in such organised way. Good development of mental being.
This is not anti-Sadhguru video. Its just anti-Foodguru video. But curious choice of not mentioning anything about food in the title is going to get lot of non-food comments on this polarizing hot button personality.
Science helps understand the world around us. It keeps growing through experiments and new understandings. We have a very vibrant culinary culture and we should celebrate one meal at a time. Cheers.
I think that graph is more like a child's view of a bluntly shaped hill, an isosceles triangle with curves... A straight line, Increasing, reaching a rounded top, then declining and reaching a equilibrium ... 😅
Dude, thanks a lot for this food for soul of a video on a day like today, where hope has a hard time to retain it's place in the heart!! Thanks a lot!! Not so much for the debunking of Sadhguru's usual nautankis, but more so for the 1st 7 mins or so of that monologue!!! I am sure you know and feel what I mean!!
We evolved from animal sacrifices and Hindu’ism’ based Sanatana Dharma keeps evolving! Killing an animal is a No-No not only by Sadhguru but by Sri Sri by all our Saints, Seers and Paramacharyas. Many of us live a healthy life without killing animals!!!
Just goes on to show how much effort it takes to debunk scammers. In fact, I understand exactly why sadguru does what he does (ex. ‘Demonizing western food’ - because you need an enemy to make people believe you are their savior). But we also know research, logic, science nothing can change people’s minds (look at US elections 😅) … so my question: do you really think people will adopt better eating habits over a scammer’s religious titillation by watching this video?
I would argue the 1st 7 mins is the actual gold mine of reason, rationality and grace. Rest of the video is debunking the usual nautankis and BS of Sadhguru. Not very pertinent. Sadhguru and BS is synonymous enough to not care for needing any debunking.
It's like you read my mind ... Absolutely loved the content,, bang on... Thank you Krish...Iam sure you must've really worked very very hard for this video..
I've watched enough videos from sadhguru about foods and most of them states having a balanced meals according to ones needs. I remember him saying each individual (athlete, women, kids, one with sedentary lifestyle) needs different foods. He even states one should be getting enough protein from legumes, lentils, etc. I do agree he promotes veganism, but at the same time he even promotes for someone born near coastals to consume seafood. P.S.: I love your videos. You've helped me a lot in understanding nutrition. The way you breakdown complex topics is remarkable. ❤
I belong to category 4 : Those who follow the talks of godmen, but at the same time are also interested in learning about the criticism on the godmen, as they are agnostics and doubters and interested in practicing methods instead of believing in theoretical concepts
Great work, sir! Thank you! These million free floating food advice given by self-proclaimed "spiritual" gurus are also a cause of countless deaths. So it should be criminal, and he needs to be tried in court on these grounds. Also, I wish this was an hour longer or even more because there is an unlimited supply of pseudoscience from jaggi through the years.
To be honest, nobody eats based on their geography anymore. I visited Tamil nadu recently and was shocked how much western junk food culture has taken over the state. I'll never forget the sight of a row of women in silk sarees and jasmine flowers on their heads, chewing and sucking on McDonalds Chicken legs! If someone says you should eat more fruits and vegetables (pranic or not), in today's India, I'd its worth listening to, considering the rise of heart attacks in 30-40 year olds.
One question Sadhguru said cooked food has to be consumed within 1:30 hours (or max 2:00). As working professional we prepare sambar in Afternoon and consume the same sambhar with rice in evening. Is this OK? Please do not ask us to prepare fresh sambhar twice a day 😒😒. BTW, very happy to see Indians rebutting the spiritual food without any basis of scientific research. If you claim scientific then be ready for peer review. Beauty of this civilization, question everything or anything. Krish very smartly and cleverly bites people of book 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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The fourth kind that clicked on this video are the ones who HAVE to watch every one of your videos. Like me
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Me too!!😊
Hahaha lovely to know I am not the only one 🤣
Preach!
I am in the same gang
Mr. Jaggi Vasudev helped me discover the word ‘Obscurantism’.
I wish that we as a country rediscover why ‘scientific temper’ is considered a duty in our constitution.
Much love to you Krish! :)
Absolutely brilliant video created and should be seen by all clear thinking people. Sometimes these godmen get carried away and speak not only obscure things but with little knowledge......they have a personality cult and get carried away. Well done Krish. You are the best of the best.
Thank you!
There’s so much to learn from you including your content. The approach, the sequencing of thoughts, the articulation of ideas, the methodicalness of explaining, using simplified yet needful scientific terms (that improves my knowledge) and simply the assertive- respectfulness in countering some established idea.
It takes a higher level of intellect and self righteousness to show ‘the other side of the coin’ that is not popular.
Thank you.
💯👌👌
Spat my smoothie out at "and the older me... Is still atheist" 😂
Also a part of Group 2, let me just applaud your ability to not be condescending (esp at the lunar eclipse one 😬😬)
Haha
"If you use science, someone will peer review it." What a line. It should be the caption of a T-shirt.
This modern understanding of foods and nutrition is pseudo-science at best which varies wildly across sources and most of it is based on questionable sources much less peer reviewed. The problem with this video is cherry picking sources and passing it off as "science" on par with physical sciences.
but both the user and reviewer could be a sell out. Just because something is said to be based on science doesn't gaurantee the people behind it are honest.
@@sumedhwale Absolutely, navigating the world of dietary advice can be bewildering. Even among esteemed scientific journals, you’ll find studies with differing conclusions about what’s healthy and what’s not.
The reason for this is multifaceted:
Evolving Science: Nutritional science is constantly evolving. New discoveries often reshape our understanding.
Study Design: The design and methodology of studies can vary greatly, leading to different results. Some studies might be observational, while others are randomized controlled trials.
Population Differences: What works for one group of people might not work for another due to genetic, environmental, and lifestyle differences.
Confounding Factors: Many studies struggle to isolate specific dietary factors from other variables that could influence results.
Given these complexities, the best approach is often to follow balanced, evidence-based guidelines and listen to your body’s unique needs.
@@sreeyt The main reason is that there is no comprehensive model of human body, for example, that can help model the effect of foods etc in a precise or even approximate way. The complexity of human body means that all these nutritional studies are mostly hit and trial samples, so passing these as "science" is very disingenuous. At best these are statistical studies based on extremely small samples over a very limited duration of time.
@@sreeyt Effectively these nutritional studies are hardly different from "anecdotal" evidence albeit with somewhat larger samples in some cases. There are very very few things that are established on firm grounds after being observed consistently over a very large number of studies. In most cases those conclusions are not very different from what we know from our traditional knowledgebase.
Either way the point being that passing it off as "science" is plain falsehood. Of course, nowadays folks hardly care about what "science" actually implies and you have all kinds of stuff labeled as a "science" to provide some kind of higher level of legitimacy to it. Just like in the past (and occasionally even today) people used to write stuff as they please and pass it off as legitimate shastra.
Loved the video.
I follow Sadhguru (watch his videos and feel he has clarity on most of the things, I surely get direction from his speeches / ideas ). And I am not at all offended / angry with your video, rather I am supportive of true peer review of any scientific claim.
Aligned with your thought of focusing on wholistic diet than demonizing one food. But on the other hand , I also thank Sadhguru for guiding us with an overall direction for a large population of people who are lost in this chaotic / noisy environment where everyone is influencer. People like him are needed for most of us .
Ultimately , we need both sides of the arguments so that people can select based on their intellect, and hence I love this video (other than being your fan anyway ;) ) …
P.S : you did a great job explaining the thought process at the beginning. Loved it.
Please keep up the great work you are doing.
This is the kind of logical explanation I'm happy to see on UA-cam from time to time. You don't need to pick sides, pick people and so on. Each of us has some flaws and some virtues. Which ones you let shine through decide the quality of your interactions and shape your character as a human being. It's just with people who are constantly in the limelight - for one reason or another - their flaws and virtues get accentuated a lot. And the way mainstream media or social media parrots our negativity biases can color perceptions, but it's important to maintain critical thinking and acknowledge duality.
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No we don't want people like Jagadish Vasudev
@@consoleLogSatyathere's no we here, it's just you and we don't need to accept your opinion
@@DebmalyaChakraborty112Likes of these godmen should not be followed
"Illa enakku Puriyala" Makes sense
Dear Mr. Ashok, Your channel is the perfect example of how to use your voice for good.
It serves as a reminder for others that we all have a voice and we should use it to dispel myths, respectfully and factually stand up to bad ideas, myths disguised in clothes of religion.
I especially loved the introduction of Dushyant Sridhar, what a refreshing and humble person accepting others to drive home your point.
Well done.
This is how you respectfully disagree. You have voiced what many of us who like Sadhguru cringe about when he makes scientific claims about food. Thank you!
Some people don’t deserve respect. Like scammers. Criminals.
This video gave me so much peace after a very long time. Mr. Ashok said the words which I felt for years but couldn't gather the words to speak out loud. Thank you so much ❤
Thank you
Maybe he ate too much brinjal growing up.
Ahahahaha😂
Hi Krish, it's amazing to me how you're so calm talking about this, coming up with counter logic and real scientific info. And here I am, screaming "bullsh!t" when you were showing part of his speeches. I am a physicist, and he messed up with my field too, along with many other so-called "Goldman"s. I belong to the second category that you said, but I respect others points of view, and that includes religious or spiritual beliefs. But when someone messes up with my subject, or the whole science in general, I call that "bullsh!t" right away.
The fact that you even had to do that intro... says a lot about our culture, don't you think?
That’s fine. It’s only basic courtesy to try and communicate disagreement within the socially acceptable parameters of current society
Basic courtesy - Not having the integrity to address appropriately what others hold sacred because personally don't hold anything to that level of sanctity so how can he relate!
Absolutely loved this video! Very rational, logical and well thought out and explained. This is how one ought to disagree and critique gracefully! Thank you for setting such a great example, sir!
Absolutely ! It's superb.
'... and often these suggestions are accompanied by scientific sounding explanations. If you use science, someone will peer review'. That's very well put. It highlights the core essence of science.
I was wondering when you will finally feel the need to explain this 😊 … thanks and cheers
I love the way you approach, critisize in a constructive manner to show what is actually wrong and why, and not by making the relation of love hate, rather in a gray area
Fantastic. Respectfully done.
On a lighter note,
The first seven minutes is Krish Ashok saying, “Irunga bhai”
The next 20 minutes is us saying, “avlo thaan mudichu vitteenga ponga!”
Haha
OMG. I didn't know that you are behind Tambrahm Rage! TIL!
This was an excellent video. Cheers!
Hey, thanks!
Actually many might get turned off by your thumbnail and not see this wonderful video. I too thought you might be talking about his personal life or his spiritual outlook, but i just listened out of curiosity and realised you are spot on. I too think like you get into lots of arguments with my mom and elders from my brahmin family with their claims regarding sathvik diets.
It cuts both ways. If the thumbnail was sedate, then a larger number of people simply don't click. I'd rather people click out of morbid interest and then hopefully stay for a sane discussion
I appreciate your efforts in educating us about food choices. However, I noticed a few aspects that might benefit from further exploration:
19:41 Diversity in food choices doesn’t equate to all being equally beneficial. Different foods affect our physical, mental, and spiritual states in unique ways. Recognizing certain foods as “better” for specific goals isn’t disrespecting diversity-it simply acknowledges their suitability for certain purposes.
22:54 You question the effect of negative pranic foods by focusing on their nutrition, like seafood. While it’s nutritious, it’s classified as tamasic in terms of the energy (prana) it imparts, which is different from its nutritional content. Prana and nutrition serve distinct purposes.
23:19 No one, including Sadhguru, is forcing or looking down on anyone for eating non-vegetarian food. For example, Sadhguru mentions eating seafood is the best thing to do in a coastal region and even otherwise. This doesn’t imply any judgment on others' choices, but rather situational flexibility.
I noticed your shirt humorously (perhaps, intentionally too) says, “Illa enakku puriyala (No, I don’t understand)”. When exploring complex topics like prana in food, it’s helpful to deepen understanding before forming conclusions. Perhaps finding clarity on these aspects could add even more depth to your content 🙏🏻
Thank you for your well-thought out (and polite) comment. On the first point, yes, different foods affect different people differently, which is exactly why one specific idea of "good food" simply does not exist. On seafood, the very idea of it being classified as negative comes from a bias against animal sources of nutrition (with the convenient exception of milk, which again suggests that geographical bias of those ideas that are being passed off as universal).
Very beautifully put video. I am initiated into Sadhguru's yoga but I keep him and his advice separate from his Yogic practices. I definitely not a blind follower of him, as he says as well to his followers too, but I'm happy to see you doing a scientific check on his food advices. I loved your taxonomy of food in Satvic, Rajsik and Tamsic categories. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you and it’s wonderful to see someone being able to separate out ideas from the individual
Sir the classification of sattvic or tamasic is for spiritual progress of the spiritual seekers not for everyone in general ...this classification is found in Bhagavat Gita also
It's still bullshit
This Triune Reality is God’s signature, a divine pattern found throughout the realms of the sublime. It permeates our understanding of time, space, God, and consciousness. However, it eludes the gross relationships of everyday life.
The Triune Truth is evident in life’s subtle relationships, recognized by those engaged in such understanding. In yogic science as Satvic, Rajasic and Tamasic, In Vedic as Rishi, devata and chanddas. In Ayurveda it call the three Dosas; Vata,Pita ans Kapha..Religionists describe it as the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost; psychiatrists as the superconscious, conscious, and subconscious; spiritualists as mind, body, and spirit; scientists as energy, matter, ether. Philosophers assert that a thing isn’t true until it is true in thought, word, and deed. When it comes to time, we speak of the past, present, and future, and in spatial terms, we see here, there, and the space in between.
In gross relationships, there are no in-betweens, just dyads-left-right, up-down, big-small, fast-slow, hot-cold, and male-female. Nothing exists without its opposite, forming the basis of most daily experiences.
Conversely, in sublime relationships, there are no opposites-everything is one, progressing in a never-ending circle. Time, as a sublime realm, encompasses past, present, and future interrelationally, parts of the same whole, progressing ideas, cycles of energy, aspects of an immutable Truth. Indeed, past, present, and future coexist simultaneously.
It has been proven empirically that most Indian godmen are dubious characters- many of the well-established with a vast following have accumulated huge movable (extremely pricey cars, for instance, as the one under discussion currently) and immovable properties (schools is a favourite big business) have even landed in jail for fraud. Almost everything they say, in particular about food, has no scientific basis as you have rightly explained. Thanks a million, Krish for this video, which is timely and badly needed.
Sadhguru is best and all Indian godmen are best. Jai Shree Mahakal🌹🌹🙏🙏
Not everyone.@@gauravpatil1079
This is probably the most brilliant of your videos and maybe one of the best I have ever seen on UA-cam. It should apply to every aspect of life, not just to food. Would make the world a lot more tolerant and a better place. Have just signed up as a member ❤️
@kirshashok I know the classification of food into sattvic, rajasic and tamasic is something which you dont agree and I also agree that intellect is not linked to these classification of food.
However, this classification is only for spiritual purpose - eating sattvic help one in meditation. This is something you can experience while staying in ashram.
However this classification doesnt mean anything to working class - who need energy to work 8 hours, protein to build muscles and caffeine to get the day started. The moment you change gear to spiritual evolution then these thing do count.
Like you say most people work 8+ hrs a day and this classification does not apply to them.
People who enjoy being in ashram, in peace who spend a lot less energy can live off of ash guard juice.
and yes, peaceful places help in meditation, not everything is about food.
Firstly, thanks for the video. I can understand its hard to go up against such figures.
Heres a thought on channels and viewership. Big numbers doesn't mean that everyone is able to a) watch entire videos b) understand every sentence c) remember everything they watched d) follow the advice they heard, or use the info they got.
In that sense, much of what i've heard from gurus is just 'in one ear, out the other'.
We then go back to the way we lived always.
This is why, while some influencers may have large audiences, their actual effect is very small.
I do believe that those who like your thought process are in fact those who are already like you. It is very unlikely that the other side (or sides) will change teams, because of your words.
People who dont like science, simply think its another religion, with a different vocabulary. The difference is not clear to them.
You can't be scientific without a certain level of education. And even then, sometimes not.
And, science needs a certain individual agency with regard to testing things for oneself, and that seems to be fundamentally missing in many people.
We were taught science, without the habit of testing anything, rather we were supposed to just believe textbooks. That's the opposite of science. The miracle might be that some of us still haven't lost this habit of testing things out for oneself.
Science isnt just the vocabulary, the technical terms, the jargon. But thats exactly what some people believe, and they attempt to adopt the terminologies with no mind to what they represent.
Your efforts are up against an unimaginably large section of people who are never gonna understand it. Hate is the outcome, when people fail to understand. Its pure frustration. For there's nothing the modern man hates than to feel left out.
For that, I felt I had to come out and say - thanks for doing it anyway.
English speaking guru and corporate frustrated peeps perfect composition 🤓
Long awaited. Thanks Much Krish Ashok
Yess !
Excellent , felt like you r reading my mind. I respect Sadhguru and benefitted from inner engineering yog practice
Yog stimulates our parasympathetic system . Parasympathetic means rest digest and happy
Sympathetic system means flight fight and fear
Krish Ashok, thank you for exposing Sadhguru’s tactics of twisting pseudoscience into something that looks like wisdom. Sadhguru’s teachings are not just misleading-they’re dangerous. His disregard for genuine science, coupled with his immense influence, makes him a threat to rational thinking and public understanding. It’s high time society sees through this and holds him accountable for misleading people. Thanks for bringing attention to these harmful, exploitative claims
I saw 'Sadhguru', my jaw dropped, and it clicked why you're taking a break from social media for a bit! xD
Did you find it sister, I mean your jaw. Jaw is not something you should drop at random places
I am studying in a western nation for a few months now. It's Norway. Fish, meat, and potatoes are their traditional food. They exercise a lot especially jogging and hiking. And man, they're fit. They also have great water and air quality. Also they value work-life balance and like to spend time with family. Their food might not be the tastiest, but they definitely are very healthy.
Hi Krish,
Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this Video. You communicated your message with such respect, objectivity, and balance-it was really impressive. Every time, you give me more reasons to admire the depth of your research and the way you clearly and thoughtfully lay out your points.
Keep up the great work!
Because you are open minded, I wanted to tell you, I think tamas, rajas and satva are diff from what is called good and bad food.
This categorisation is more about which food is good for whom their activities in a day or their goal in life.
It is also important to know who his ordinances are and when it was told. Maybe, he was telling south Indians who are addicted to western foods😅.
It is very very difficult to always be right. Including people who are called god men, or calling themselves godmen, ordinary or extraordinary people, which again includes you, me all of us.
I don't think, I can tell a sentence that is going to be true forever. He is talking about so many things to to so many people, I don't expect him to be right in everybody's perspective.
I like him bcz, I just feel, he is something more than others.
If the discussion was truly about ideas, please don't keep the title as 'The problem with Sadhguru'.
Attract people using ideas not someone's name or title whatever.
Finally someone who speaks logic.❤
These are the people who should be involved in planning meals for children
No eggs for kids in the school meals comes from bias against poor malnourished kids
I completely agree with you and like your balanced approach.
People like Sadguru think they are very wise and can comment on anything under the sun.
Here before this gets shadowbanned
like the video then
Like the way you classified food. Fresh perception! And I agree, home cooked food is Sattvik :) Great video! Thanks!
There is no sadhguru criticism video more respectful than this. If this too gets hate then we know it's a cult.
It is always been a cult.
@@adghat7819 atleast this cult is not carrying out serial bomb blasts
Every fact changes over time with more scientific proof, until then everybody claims somebody is wrong;
I suggest not to miss the first five mintues. It's a superb advice not just for this video, but for everything in life. Another great video by Ashok.
PS. If you have not read Masala lab yet, I highly recommend doing so. It's as entertaining as informative, with a lot of interesting illustrations by Ashok ( and his brother).
Thank you
Very interesting book . Request Ashok sir to continue writing such books .
I had read an article where a Taj Hotel Delhi Chef said that Sadhguru ordered Fish n rice in lunch much to his surprise 😊
Not surprising at all; some of the school kids in his school are given eggs as well.
@krishashok you created those tambrahm Tumblr posts? Big fan! Loved your humor.
As expected lol! When you said you said about taking a break from social media
I love this Krish! Absolutely sensible! Thanks.
Thank you
Question everything and accept nothing without reason; every truth must earn its place through proof and understanding.
Your curiosity and way of questioning things is such a reminder to look deeper and not just take things at face value.
Thank you!
Truth is the authority, not authority the truth.
Even after watching your videos, I could have also Brust the myths.. You're just making your understanding solid.
There’s a fourth kind that just likes learning and you explain something we interact with everyday (food) yet don’t think more inquisitively about its chemistry.
For simplicity take let’s club all the rest in category 3 😅
Awesome! Much needed education against pseudo scientific gurus . Thanks for what you do...
Thanks for watching!
Enjoyed listening to this and totally agree with you. Very good explanations.
First I downloaded this video. Then watch it. So I can share it with anyone perpetually throughout my life.
To those rapid commenters,
Shocked to see you commenting nonsense even before you complete the video.
A hint/heads-up given about this video in the insta story. Initial commenters are referring to that. I guess you have no idea about that.
@@PRUTHVIRAJ1you're correct I don't have insta. Thanks for clarification.
Was waiting since morning, guessed it..!
Let me begin with appreciating how sensible and objective you always are. It's wholesome to see the way you spent enough time on the prologue on how this video is about what and not who is right or wrong and that brilliance in one field need not and often does not translate to brilliance in a totally different field.
As a Sadhguru initiate myself, I really enjoyed your video and admire your compassionate and measured approach.
However there is one major point where I largely differ.
It is about your stand on how people need to eat according to their situation and surroundings. While it may be true to a tiny fraction of humanity in extraordinary situations, the wide SCIENTIFIC concensus remains that....
"No, humans don't need to consume largely different foods based on region or season, given modern food systems and environmental controls."
Here's why:
1. Global food distribution networks provide access to diverse foods year-round.
2. Climate-controlled environments minimize seasonal variations.
3. Modern agriculture ensures consistent food availability, regardless of region or season.
4. Nutritional requirements remain relatively constant across regions and seasons.
However, considering regional and seasonal factors can still offer benefits:
1. Supporting local economies and sustainable agriculture.
2. Promoting cultural and culinary diversity.
3. Optimizing nutrient intake based on regional and seasonal variations.
Scientific evidence supports a balanced diet tailored to individual needs, rather than geographical or seasonal factors.
Sources:
1. National Institutes of Health (NIH) - "Dietary Guidelines for Americans"
2. World Health Organization (WHO) - "Healthy Diet"
3. Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics - "Eating Seasonally"
All Indian dishes are not balanced and nutritious, in fact ,we have forgotten the art of healthy cooking and are primarily focused on taste and quick meals.
Very informative video, wish Sadhguru would stop using “Science” in his advices. We need more people like you to teach Indians to use critical thinking.
I love how your channel provides a perspective and well reasoned insight into your Indian culture I'm normally not exposed to. Thank you!
Love this video. I’m a spiritual person at the same time, I’m a person of science. Thank you.
good combo priyanka science + spirituality
You cannot be spiritual if you understand science
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Loved this video. It's sad to see he is being invited to some conferences by some scientific communities to give keynote speech
Very rational and logical video ,loved it ! The way you explained it was fantastic !
Glad you liked it!
Really appreciate this lucid video that explains food choices and benefits.
As always a great video. First 7 mins are awesome 😊
Fantastic video... Hit the nail on the head! However one point I beg to differ- eating non veg is again not compassionate right... Knowingly or unknowingly the person is instrumental in inflicting cruelty.. Not to judge the person.. But the act.
You are true intellectual. Some phony intellectuals just counter him by calling him Sadguru, Thats bullying. However, you missed Sadhguru' drinking kobra venum. Its on youtube. I wonder why his bhakts dont try venom to get super stoned like him.
Wholely agree. Someone else's food choices are not for anyone to criticize or demonize.
Bravo Krish. Great video 👍🏽 thanks for doing this.
Glad you liked it!
Hi Krish can you please talk about maltodextrin is it safe to consume? It's almost present in all the packaged foods
You're honestly the hero we need in a world full of misinformation.
Beautiful video....just one thought came to my mind there is someone who is thinking clearly and expressing his thoughts in such organised way. Good development of mental being.
This is not anti-Sadhguru video. Its just anti-Foodguru video. But curious choice of not mentioning anything about food in the title is going to get lot of non-food comments on this polarizing hot button personality.
Unfortunate side effect of how UA-cam works. Video thumbnails need to be catchy enough to get people to click
My suggestion for further reading: Death - a book by Sadhguru. Surreal literature.
Very logically explained
Amazing video sir
Thank you 🙏
So nice of you
Science helps understand the world around us. It keeps growing through experiments and new understandings. We have a very vibrant culinary culture and we should celebrate one meal at a time. Cheers.
Agree with you!! People have twisted ancient scriptures for their own benefits
I clicked on this video because I like watching your videos. Which category do I fall in? :)
Haha still category 3
We need a Liver Doc collab
As you grow old, your confidence to dismiss other's idea has gone down. This resonates so much with me.
I think that graph is more like a child's view of a bluntly shaped hill, an isosceles triangle with curves... A straight line, Increasing, reaching a rounded top, then declining and reaching a equilibrium ... 😅
😊
Hehe
Dude, thanks a lot for this food for soul of a video on a day like today, where hope has a hard time to retain it's place in the heart!! Thanks a lot!! Not so much for the debunking of Sadhguru's usual nautankis, but more so for the 1st 7 mins or so of that monologue!!! I am sure you know and feel what I mean!!
Thank you for the support
Thank you.. Very informative🎉
Glad it was helpful!
We evolved from animal sacrifices and Hindu’ism’ based Sanatana Dharma keeps evolving! Killing an animal is a No-No not only by Sadhguru but by Sri Sri by all our Saints, Seers and Paramacharyas. Many of us live a healthy life without killing animals!!!
Ok!
Just goes on to show how much effort it takes to debunk scammers. In fact, I understand exactly why sadguru does what he does (ex. ‘Demonizing western food’ - because you need an enemy to make people believe you are their savior). But we also know research, logic, science nothing can change people’s minds (look at US elections 😅) … so my question: do you really think people will adopt better eating habits over a scammer’s religious titillation by watching this video?
Reasonably Factual Content starts at 7:14✔
U can skip the initial rambling if u are hard up for time.
Hope this helps.
I would argue the 1st 7 mins is the actual gold mine of reason, rationality and grace. Rest of the video is debunking the usual nautankis and BS of Sadhguru. Not very pertinent. Sadhguru and BS is synonymous enough to not care for needing any debunking.
It's like you read my mind ... Absolutely loved the content,, bang on... Thank you Krish...Iam sure you must've really worked very very hard for this video..
I've watched enough videos from sadhguru about foods and most of them states having a balanced meals according to ones needs. I remember him saying each individual (athlete, women, kids, one with sedentary lifestyle) needs different foods. He even states one should be getting enough protein from legumes, lentils, etc. I do agree he promotes veganism, but at the same time he even promotes for someone born near coastals to consume seafood.
P.S.: I love your videos. You've helped me a lot in understanding nutrition. The way you breakdown complex topics is remarkable. ❤
Kudos! the most empathetic and humble approach of stating the facts without hurting anyone's sentiment (even be those the lamest ones).😀
Anna, Namaste ...! 😅😅😅
Don't Worry the first kind are not angry. I can vouch for that
Absolutely loved this video!!!❤
So glad!
True review starts from 7:15
You’re welcome ..
I belong to category 4 :
Those who follow the talks of godmen, but at the same time are also interested in learning about the criticism on the godmen, as they are agnostics and doubters and interested in practicing methods instead of believing in theoretical concepts
Long awaited video! Thanks for this :)
Hope you enjoyed it!
Kudos! Krish. Great job as usual. Yiu never fail to impress and you are never arrogant. Cheers! Keep it up.
Great work, sir! Thank you!
These million free floating food advice given by self-proclaimed "spiritual" gurus are also a cause of countless deaths. So it should be criminal, and he needs to be tried in court on these grounds.
Also, I wish this was an hour longer or even more because there is an unlimited supply of pseudoscience from jaggi through the years.
Thank god , ashok long time no see 😂
To be honest, nobody eats based on their geography anymore. I visited Tamil nadu recently and was shocked how much western junk food culture has taken over the state. I'll never forget the sight of a row of women in silk sarees and jasmine flowers on their heads, chewing and sucking on McDonalds Chicken legs! If someone says you should eat more fruits and vegetables (pranic or not), in today's India, I'd its worth listening to, considering the rise of heart attacks in 30-40 year olds.
One question Sadhguru said cooked food has to be consumed within 1:30 hours (or max 2:00). As working professional we prepare sambar in Afternoon and consume the same sambhar with rice in evening. Is this OK? Please do not ask us to prepare fresh sambhar twice a day 😒😒.
BTW, very happy to see Indians rebutting the spiritual food without any basis of scientific research. If you claim scientific then be ready for peer review. Beauty of this civilization, question everything or anything. Krish very smartly and cleverly bites people of book 🤣🤣🤣🤣