It absolutely is that. The 20% cut for Disney’s profits have NEVER dissuaded them from releasing other battlefront, other Star Wars multiplayer, or even other single player stories. Elliot made an amazing point in this video that, “while the games may cost an additional 20% to develop, they also would EASILY make more than 20% extra in sales”, simply because of brand recognition and the fact that they’re making a Star Wars game.
@@deaconpoole7577 that's not even taking into account that if they did make a proper monetization system. look at how much monetization that a game like R6 siege has, they have a premium currency for buying skins in the store, they have a battlepass, they also have lootboxes, season passes, they have events that come with event packs which you need to buy, and customization for not just weapons but also the characters aswell. imagine being able to customize a clone trooper, the customization alone would sell like hotcakes.
@@aa-kz7hc except this is star wars people will be more mad not being able to make a 212th clone trooper without paying real money then not being able to put a new made up thing on a normal average operator or swat team member without paying real money. but having them be able to be paid for a certain amount of time before hand or make you have to do challenges to unlock the skins (if you didn't want to spend money that is) than that could work
It’s been over 3 years since Battlefront 2’s final update and it’ll be 6 years in November since Battlefront 2 released. Having a new multiplayer shooter would be so good both for playing and for content. There’s a lot of different videos to be made with a multiplayer game. Educational guides, killstreaks, etc.
You could actually do this in the offline mode in Battlefront 2015! Your emotes would command your Ai teammates to either form up and defend you, or fan out and search and destroy
Thanks for being the one to share the word on some of the things that could have been 😅 now who do we need to talk to and get our case across for a multiplayer SW game...
@@ObiGommGamingi think they were counting on loot crates to fund the dev team and make the game profitable but cry babies cried about getting killed but they blamed it on Star Card and called it pay to win which forced EA to close the store and the game and any future games......see where crying about something so small gets you brats
We don’t need another Star Wars multiplayer game. We NEED continued support in battlefront 2 OR battlefront 3. Id empty my bank account if they’d release bf3 or paid dlcs for bf2.
@@xxcaptninjaxx4301 Ain't gonna happen. Companies nowadays rarely listen to people who ain't investors or shills. You want Battlefront 3 you'll have to make do with modded OGs
@@JamieBoi cant the sw community do a public investment? Basically everyone chip in a small amount of money, til its a large investment so we all could have a seat n say so at the company's table.(kinda like Kickstarter but instead of just handing them money n saying make this, buy enough of their stock to have a say, plus anyone who chips in money for the stock has a vote),also its not like the sw community is small either. Sorry for the paragraph just generally curious.
If the Battlefront II wasn’t cancelled on and instead received constant updates like weekly and wasn’t about making so much money, it could have been one of the best Star Wars games now. Too me it’s a really good arcade game.
@@tuftyterror983 Still not living up to the heritage of its predecessors tho ... so meh idk why people crate a cult about this fake games even if they have their share of fun .
Imagine a Battlefront game that combines all maps from the original Battlefront games - like Mygeeto, Mustafar, Rhen Var, Dagobah etc with the Dice maps. Then add in a much more deep character selection - MagnaGuards, Royal Guards, Gammorean Guards, Gungans, Raiders, more heros etc. On some maps the NPCS could be hostile to both teams and even captue their own command posts like the Raiders were in the 2004 game. Of course the budget would be huge but a man can dream.
Could it just be that EA was angry at a personal level about the failure of the loot box system and was felt pushed by Disney to get it right? Meaning there was just no way they were going to touch it out of pure spite?
Never got warm with BF2, played BF2015 pretty much to the end until you couldnt find barely any match. Liked the free loadout, no classes system, powerful heroes.
I honestly will never forgive ea or dice or whoever it is who pulled the plug for battlefront to, and having the last two heroes we get being a pair of troll doll football droids, I wanted to see ahsoka and so many others, it’s like trading a game you KNOW is profitable for a game that COULD BE but in all cases wouldn’t be profitable and end up being shit
They could've even did a juggernaut mode, where one person was an op character like abaloth, or vitiate. And then have like 20 force users against them trying to save the galaxy.
Man I remember when you told me about all that stuff at Celebration earlier this year. At this point, the only way we could get another MP SW game of that kind would be if we get the ideas Dennis had for BF3 and make it an open-source community project.
I always thought how cool would it be if we had a Battlefront game with proper lightsaber combat like Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor, because let's face it, Battlefront 2 lightsaber combat was really barebones.
I was in the third grade when BF2 came out... I'm in highschool now. EA needs to get their heads out of the clouds and make BF3. It would 100% be more popular than the rest of their games. Especially battlefield 2042.
no where close to a big star wars fan… haven’t even seen the original or newer movies… and this game was one of my favorites! I mastered galactic assault getting 100+ kills a game with heroes and leading my team to victory. the gunplay was more than enjoyable to play as a trooper all game and still have a blast. I found out about this game after all the micro transactions were taken out of the game so i never had to go through the tough times. the gaming community needs another! the multiplayer versus genre is desperately needing it
In that Universe, Sony bought out Star Wars rather than Di$ney. We get an amazing sequel trilogy that isn't rushed, the first film coming out in 2019. Sony develops the rebooted Battlefront games and they are 10x better than DICE Battlefronts. Dennis is still working at DICE Stockholm working on 2042.
Since the Star Wars license is out for every company. Why doesn’t Dennis and his company try to make Star Wars battlefront 3? Of course he can’t have the same title because it’s owned by EA 😔 but still, I think Dennis and the other developers could make a new battlefront game and give us everything we wanted and honestly deserved.
This Elliot, is one of your best videos. Almost brings a tear to my eye. I’ve grown up with the EA battlefront series being my most played multiplayer games throughout all of my teenage years. I am 19 now and I’ve pretty much said goodbye to gaming how I used to. It was pretty great.
I couldn't remember what stream it was on which is why I didn't include the comments in the video, but I'll see if I can do some more digging and find it!
I was a video game tester on the real Battlefront 3 that was in production in 2008 by Free Radical development team that ended up being shut down on new gen consoles of the time and got out only on PSP as Battlefront Elite squadron. Still believe to this day it would have been a better game than the ones from Dice, the PsP version really doesn't compare to what they were doing for the new gen consoles of the time and the game had a looooot of potential. Also it really felt like the old Star wars Battlefront games and I've got lots of good memories from testing it even though there was also tons of bugs 😅
Imagine a game set in the clone wars, where it has similar dark tones as in Republic Commando, a story mode following a clone straight from kamino, to geonosis, the clones early years in front of a hologram would serve as a tutorial level, then later on after the battle of geonosis there might be a time jump straight to the end of the war, and we will see how this clone’s meaning and purpose starts to fade, dramatic shift from action gameplay towards a more mellow and dark reality of the clones during the early years of the empire… then of course multiplayer, multiplayer which supports factions and individual customisation, helping create a unique feeling among players, players that may not meet in person, but only know them through their personalised armour (designed around their clone legion) and their CT number and nickname. Battlefront 2 has a rise in discord groups where clone legions come together into lobbies and play competitively. I think that whoever decides to make another multiplayer Star Wars game, should take those groups in account and design their game for those players, and also encourage newcomers to join up with a legion. What do y’all think?
Love it. Check it out, instead of an end-game choice that changes the outro… READY?!?!? …A MID game choice that changes the entire 2nd half of the game. “The Choice”… ‘To remove your inhibitor chip and trust your Jedi’ ‘Strike down the Jedi and restore order to the galaxy’
@@MrMann-gt1ehthat’s awesome!! Could base it around finding out about the chip on Kamino, after overhearing shaak-ti talking about it with a kaminoan, then perhaps after order 66 there would be a choice to go awol and remove the chip, or not to remove it and see the tragic treatment of clones by the empire. Removing the chip would be a great view of how he realises that his brothers are controlled, and being hunted by those elite clones. Eventually by the time of a new hope, the clone would have been 50 years old ish, finding the rebellion and training rebels on Yavin 4
Thank you for the look back. I've got two questions, just out of curiousity: Do you know, if Capital Supremacy would have recieved the ship phases of the OT maps as well? And were they planning to add some more content to Galactic Assault or was it even planned to introduce one more large scale game mode?
I'm honestly not sure, I THINK they planned on adding ship phases to OT maps as well but my memory is a bit vague on that. In regards to the GA content or larger modes I honestly don't know. I do know Dennis really like Walker Assault and might have tried to bring that back if they had a lot more time.
Whats crazy is that we don’t need a new game the graphics still look up to date just fix bugs and continue support if they want our money just make skins I’ll pay I’m sure we all would or a battle pass type system would work as well
You know what’s funny? EA still updates Star Wars galaxy of heros. A mobile game much like raid shadow legends. They just recently added the scout trooper and a new Ewok, but they won’t even think about their multiplayer shooter.
They have tons of little kids playing that where they can use their parents credit cards to pay for loot boxes. EA only cared about the money that is why they ended support for BAttlefront 2 early. I reckon maybe Disney should license the franchise to another developer.
It’s so silly. It would literally be a gold mine with endless concepts and game mechanics. The Star Wars universe is so vast and interesting yet EA just sees it as a gimmic and lightsaber go brrrrr. Such a wasted license hold.
The Star Cards idea is interesting, definitely would have been smart to decouple those from abilities, just make those separate Gadgets/Gear and Upgrades. Coolest part about the Star Cards is the art that comes on each card, and seeing how player cards are present in games like COD and BF2042, it would have been an easy cosmetic option. I remember reading a while ago that DICE conceptualized a "Star Card Marketplace" where you could trade them like baseball cards, do you know if that was ever an idea? Could've just been a rumor
Annual expansions could have worked if (a) they had free weekend events; and (b) they were made free and integrated into the default playlists after a year or two, such as when the next expansion was released. That's what they should've done with Battlefront 2015 and with Premium in all the Battlefield games before BFV. Alternatively they could have been combined with the Battle Pass idea, Battle Passes for every expansion so you don't split the playerbase
Also I think your idea of creating new multiplayer franchises to focus on specific genres of games is a good one too. One of the issues with Battlefront 2 is that people were expecting it to be an "everything" Star Wars game. Like the once popular idea of a podracing mode was cool, but it never really fit Battlefront. Or having a "For Honor" lightsaber combat system, which wouldn't really work in Battlefront either. But a hero shooter like Overwatch or Jedi vs. Sith combat game like For Honor or Chivalry? Looter shooter, battle royales, podracing game like Mario Kart, space shooters like Squadrons and Rogue Squadron? Like Starfighter Assault could be a game of its own, and imagine how much better the HvV experience would be in a proper title. Not that Battlefront should get rid of hero modes and space battles, but just that other game franchises should be allowed to really specialize in them. It would allow them to focus on their niche to maximize their gameplay, otherwise when you're dealing with a massive multiplayer shooter like Battlefront you have to make trade-offs for the sake of balance. Still wish we could see a Battlefront 3.
It’s clear EA is just butthurt over how Battlefront ruined their loot box strategy. Let’s hope they come to their senses and greenlight a Battlefront III someday, or even just have another studio make a battlefront game.
I think they can make a game that sells millions more than jedi survivor, the maps the characters, maybe a good story mode where you play as jedi sith and/or troopers. Why can’t they see this potential to reach their full potential
Makes me so sad man! It was all so good. The team - community were perfect. Need an mp game soon. I love the story games but all it is is such overkill especially with the replay ability
Totally off topic question, what is the mod you're playing (it looks like BF 2022) and how did you set up Kyber servers with bots? (I'm new to it so I wanted to ask, that and I struggle getting BF 2022 running without crashing on OT maps)
What Battlefront really needs is to make the *permanently acquired* characters feature. What I mean by this is I remember I once grinded enough battlepass credits for say Darth Maul, only to find out that once the BattlePass expired, I had to *re-grind/re-purchase* the Darth Maul character all over again.
All I’m sayin is imagine a Star Wars game set up like destiny 2, where you go through all the different eras of time in expansions, but with the lightsaber combat like battfront🔥🔥🔥
The problem with modern games is that studios should hire and adopt the correct marketing people / politics. There IS a HUGE demand for more MP good Star Wars games. If devs think otherwise they are really, but really out of touch and know nothing about what players (customers) want. There is money to be made, they just need to stop predatory monetization and care more about quality overall.
im honestly sick of hearing talk about a game we'll never get. Bad enough it feels so cursed its just not allowed to happen, now people wont stop talking about it. Its just a constant haunting reminder of a shattered dream
this is also why I don't want DICE to make a battlefront 3, almost all people who fought to give us the game we deserved have already left. someday maybe there will be a battlefront 3.
it's still such a shame they canned a great game with such a thriving community. If Star Wars was a more lenient license and Dice was an indie game studio, you know they'd still be working on the game. But instead we got corporate bullcrap to ruin everything. All EA cares about is the next big dollar sign
Honestly still stings every time BF3 keeps getting pushed further away, its like looking back at the old 501st diary's when I remember those amazing 3 hour Capital supremacy battles...
Fantastic video. You only have to look at the numbers to see that battlefront 3 or a multiplayer Star Wars game would be a massive hit. But they won’t make it out of spite at this point
I’ve been playing this game again religiously it’s truly a diamond in the rough that had so much more it could have been. Hope EA pulls their heads out their asses soon and release another Battlefront.
I Feel like respawn could make a good battlefront game but any company that decides to make bf3 should hire some of the bf2 devs since they all want to make bf3 so basically bf3 already has a dev team they just need to be given the green light by someone
i think if there is another huge star wars movie battlefront 3 should come in as a final in the games ‘trilogy’. it should have balanced characters, most of what bf2 had and maybe less cluttered + mace windu, qui gon, ahsoka and new characters. it should be 60 fps atleast for consoles, and have some of the best older modes + new fun modes with similar levelling up systems
As a developer and game publisher you CANNOT actively insult your customer base and then deliberately misinterpret their disdain as a “lack of hunger” for new projects
Honestly all I would want is a lightsaber combat overhaul and maybe give some heroes a little more health regen so they cant get one shotted and just sit at the back of the map
I just don't see how they can make the argument that a game which sold millions of copies for $60-80 a pop is somehow not financially viable. I think that is more an EA problem than one that the fans should be concerned with by "chipping in" to support development. These are massive publicly traded companies. These are star wars games. How is it possible that they needed micro-transactions in these games to make money? What has changed so drastically since Lucasarts that have made Star Wars games basically a scam? It is just sad to see all these corporations tank franchises. It is like nobody who makes the decisions actually cares.
@@kieronspiteri we are getting the ps2 emulator on the ps5 trust me we might be getting both of the classic battlefront 1 and battlefront 2 on the ps plus premium
I always thought it was so stupid that EA shot the pitch down because they needed “20% more sales.” It’s like, why did you even buy the Star Wars license in the first place if that was such a big issue for you? Seriously, if they weren’t willing to do anything with the license, they should’ve just given it to someone else. I’m glad other developers are finally getting a chance with the franchise.
Honestly I feel like EA didn’t care about BF2 they were only interested in the money, and when battle front 2 was at its last update they felt like they weren’t making the money they wanted like what they got in FIFA. But the fact that they don’t want anybody in EA making a new BF game
What a shame man. They made bf2 so awesome after they fixed it and we loved the years with the updates and all the new stuff they added. So much good times. They should've kept going or come back to the bf3 idea. They see the hype for it.. it would sell. I hate EA man lol
I'm old school about DLC as I knew it. You pay anywhere between 10-20 bucks and then call it a day. Now cosmetics i see nothing wrong giving bread for. Its you shopong attire for wat eva in game item.
EA is seriously on Life Support. Nothing coming out of EA in the last 5 years has not come with massive controversy. It’s a freaking shame cause BF2 still to this day has better gameplay then current games.
Because let's be honest from the gameplay to the art to everything in this game was just amazing even graphicaly now in 2023 it looks amazing and runs so well.
I had heard we were getting a BF3 like last year and nothing... I just went back to part 2. BF 3 could have so much new junk since D+ tons of new troopers, characters, and worlds to add it would be bonkers.
I think if they did another Star Wars Battlefront game.. All characters/classes & vehicles/ships should have 3rd person & first person/cockpit camera views. The only reason I haven’t played battlefront since the PS2/X-Box era is I always think of it as a 3rd person shooter game and I’m more into 1st person because it’s more immersive and I just enjoy it more that way. I love Battlefield 2042 and I love Star Wars Squadrons so I’m thinking of trying out Star Wars Battlefront 2 finally. I hear it has decent single player and you can play some of the multiplayer game modes with bots. It sounds like it has a lot of replay value and that’s what I look for in my shooters. It’s a shame modern gaming like open world games aren’t great for replay value. I remember really liking both the original Battlefront & Battlefront 2 games back in the day! Thanks for the video!
After a while I played Battlefront 2 (2) and was again reminded how soulless it feels. It can bring a moment of fun with a friend bu there is no depth or feel to the game. The "character development" via the gambling cards is just pathetic excuse for a game design. I loved to play Battlefront 2 (1) both alone and with a friend in split screen co-op. We kept battling together and against each other in custom instant action and in galactic conquest. We even made our own paper map and had our own galactic conquest. But we could do none of that in split screen with the new SWBF2(2). I still keep hoping that eventually we could get a proper Star Wars shooter which would have a great single player story, great instant action for split screen and as a bonus I would love a good online experience.
I have a feeling these aren't the actual reasons they didn't do bf3. No company would miss out on the chance to make so much money unless they know something we don't.
Thank you for making this, I had no idea about that tweet. Crazy! If we ever get another one I hope they add the ability to fire the ion cannon into spaceships from the planet. As well as being able to fly to and from the planet in-game. Oh and escape pods too like in Star Wars: Renegade Squadron
I would just wish that they would have been more trasparent regarding monitization. Because in the end, most people would be willing AND understanding a funding to keep this game running. After so long with nothing in return? No wonder they took this path. But IF they would have been bold enough to just ask the players about the 2 options. Either we try to add monitization or the game would die. Guess what our answer would have been.
If EA or DICE make Battlefront 3 this is I want Replace sequel trilogy with mandoverse No starcard system Galactic conquest More PT and OT planets like coruscant utapau mygeeto mustafar More customization Ground to space combat 50 weapon More reinforcement for the battlefront Cross faction from original battlefront 2004-2005 More heroes and villains Drivable vehicles not on rails
Unfortunately with these big game companies and publishers its all about how well it sells at launch, investors and shareholders don't care how much it makes over multiple years, this is the sad truth of the industry
It’s so crazy to me when I hear this stuff. I’m no expert on the financials but the Star Wars brand sells. Stick a sw label on a toilet and you will have people buying it because it is a huge brand. I don’t understand how the financial aspect could possibly be a problem. I have lost a lot of faith in ea recently
It's hard not to see EA's illogical distain for BF2/3 as anything other than spite for forever ruining their sweeping plans for pay to win loot boxes.
It absolutely is that. The 20% cut for Disney’s profits have NEVER dissuaded them from releasing other battlefront, other Star Wars multiplayer, or even other single player stories.
Elliot made an amazing point in this video that, “while the games may cost an additional 20% to develop, they also would EASILY make more than 20% extra in sales”, simply because of brand recognition and the fact that they’re making a Star Wars game.
I agree, I also think they are butt hurt from how terrible the launch went from a sort of investors standpoint. Their reputation was ruined
Capitalism is the problem
@@deaconpoole7577 that's not even taking into account that if they did make a proper monetization system. look at how much monetization that a game like R6 siege has, they have a premium currency for buying skins in the store, they have a battlepass, they also have lootboxes, season passes, they have events that come with event packs which you need to buy, and customization for not just weapons but also the characters aswell. imagine being able to customize a clone trooper, the customization alone would sell like hotcakes.
@@aa-kz7hc except this is star wars people will be more mad not being able to make a 212th clone trooper without paying real money then not being able to put a new made up thing on a normal average operator or swat team member without paying real money. but having them be able to be paid for a certain amount of time before hand or make you have to do challenges to unlock the skins (if you didn't want to spend money that is) than that could work
It’s been over 3 years since Battlefront 2’s final update and it’ll be 6 years in November since Battlefront 2 released. Having a new multiplayer shooter would be so good both for playing and for content. There’s a lot of different videos to be made with a multiplayer game. Educational guides, killstreaks, etc.
I hope you get what you want
Only the OGs remember being able to recruit troopers and keep them by your side on SWBF2 PS2 version...
Heck yeah man
You could actually do this in the offline mode in Battlefront 2015! Your emotes would command your Ai teammates to either form up and defend you, or fan out and search and destroy
Real
"follow me" "let's go" "right away" "yes sir"
@deaconpoole7577 wait for real??
Thanks for being the one to share the word on some of the things that could have been 😅 now who do we need to talk to and get our case across for a multiplayer SW game...
I wish I knew, there must be someone out there who sees the massive gap in Star Wars games and the potential it has 😢
Hey look guys it's AZZATRU !
I think they were counting on Star Wars hunters but that ship has sailed
@@ObiGommGamingi think they were counting on loot crates to fund the dev team and make the game profitable but cry babies cried about getting killed but they blamed it on Star Card and called it pay to win which forced EA to close the store and the game and any future games......see where crying about something so small gets you brats
We don’t need another Star Wars multiplayer game. We NEED continued support in battlefront 2 OR battlefront 3. Id empty my bank account if they’d release bf3 or paid dlcs for bf2.
It’s honestly a joke that EA is forcing dice to revive their broken COD ripoff
Exactly Battlefront 3 need to be like original battlefront games and battlefield get rid of starcard system with gadgets
@@xxcaptninjaxx4301 Ain't gonna happen. Companies nowadays rarely listen to people who ain't investors or shills. You want Battlefront 3 you'll have to make do with modded OGs
@@JamieBoi yeah true I have played original battlefront and spin off games like renegade squadron and elite squadron.
@@JamieBoi unless u life threath them
@@JamieBoi cant the sw community do a public investment? Basically everyone chip in a small amount of money, til its a large investment so we all could have a seat n say so at the company's table.(kinda like Kickstarter but instead of just handing them money n saying make this, buy enough of their stock to have a say, plus anyone who chips in money for the stock has a vote),also its not like the sw community is small either. Sorry for the paragraph just generally curious.
I hope that we one day will wake up from this nightmare of a reality to see a whole new reality where star wars multiplayer games are flourishing.
If the Battlefront II wasn’t cancelled on and instead received constant updates like weekly and wasn’t about making so much money, it could have been one of the best Star Wars games now. Too me it’s a really good arcade game.
@@tuftyterror983 Still not living up to the heritage of its predecessors tho ... so meh idk why people crate a cult about this fake games even if they have their share of fun .
Imagine a Battlefront game that combines all maps from the original Battlefront games - like Mygeeto, Mustafar, Rhen Var, Dagobah etc with the Dice maps. Then add in a much more deep character selection - MagnaGuards, Royal Guards, Gammorean Guards, Gungans, Raiders, more heros etc. On some maps the NPCS could be hostile to both teams and even captue their own command posts like the Raiders were in the 2004 game. Of course the budget would be huge but a man can dream.
Along with characters like Malgus, Nihulis, n Reven 😩
I’m still holding out hope we will get it one day we all have to keep pushing for another Battlefront game
Good stuff man. I'd imagine there will eventually be another Battlefront, it's just who knows how long. Years, years, and more years...
Could it just be that EA was angry at a personal level about the failure of the loot box system and was felt pushed by Disney to get it right? Meaning there was just no way they were going to touch it out of pure spite?
Never got warm with BF2, played BF2015 pretty much to the end until you couldnt find barely any match. Liked the free loadout, no classes system, powerful heroes.
I honestly will never forgive ea or dice or whoever it is who pulled the plug for battlefront to, and having the last two heroes we get being a pair of troll doll football droids, I wanted to see ahsoka and so many others, it’s like trading a game you KNOW is profitable for a game that COULD BE but in all cases wouldn’t be profitable and end up being shit
They could've even did a juggernaut mode, where one person was an op character like abaloth, or vitiate. And then have like 20 force users against them trying to save the galaxy.
"No Gambling, no game" EA
Man I remember when you told me about all that stuff at Celebration earlier this year. At this point, the only way we could get another MP SW game of that kind would be if we get the ideas Dennis had for BF3 and make it an open-source community project.
Haven’t played this game in 3 years but I feel bad for the community. It was be amazing to get a Battlefront 3
I always thought how cool would it be if we had a Battlefront game with proper lightsaber combat like Jedi Fallen Order/Survivor, because let's face it, Battlefront 2 lightsaber combat was really barebones.
I didn't even realize how much I missed having a SW MP game until I watched this video. It's way past due to develop one.
EA really just tries to be dumb, I swear. No other explanation.
Things would be so much better if EA never monetized the Star cards…
Had prototypes for ahsoka, ventress, and mustafar. “Our vision for the game is complete”
I was in the third grade when BF2 came out... I'm in highschool now. EA needs to get their heads out of the clouds and make BF3. It would 100% be more popular than the rest of their games. Especially battlefield 2042.
no where close to a big star wars fan… haven’t even seen the original or newer movies… and this game was one of my favorites! I mastered galactic assault getting 100+ kills a game with heroes and leading my team to victory. the gunplay was more than enjoyable to play as a trooper all game and still have a blast. I found out about this game after all the micro transactions were taken out of the game so i never had to go through the tough times. the gaming community needs another! the multiplayer versus genre is desperately needing it
I really hope there is a universe out there were this game had a great start and it’s still going on too this day
nope, only this universe
In that Universe, Sony bought out Star Wars rather than Di$ney. We get an amazing sequel trilogy that isn't rushed, the first film coming out in 2019. Sony develops the rebooted Battlefront games and they are 10x better than DICE Battlefronts. Dennis is still working at DICE Stockholm working on 2042.
Since the Star Wars license is out for every company. Why doesn’t Dennis and his company try to make Star Wars battlefront 3? Of course he can’t have the same title because it’s owned by EA 😔 but still, I think Dennis and the other developers could make a new battlefront game and give us everything we wanted and honestly deserved.
Still mad to this day it was cancelled I'll never be over it😭
This Elliot, is one of your best videos. Almost brings a tear to my eye. I’ve grown up with the EA battlefront series being my most played multiplayer games throughout all of my teenage years. I am 19 now and I’ve pretty much said goodbye to gaming how I used to. It was pretty great.
Does anyone know exactly what Guillame had said were the prototype abilities for Ahsoka and Asajj??
I couldn't remember what stream it was on which is why I didn't include the comments in the video, but I'll see if I can do some more digging and find it!
@@BattlefrontUpdateswould appreciate the research man
@@BattlefrontUpdates Thank you Elliot!!
@@BattlefrontUpdates Did you find anything?
Man, I hope we can find out!!
I was a video game tester on the real Battlefront 3 that was in production in 2008 by Free Radical development team that ended up being shut down on new gen consoles of the time and got out only on PSP as Battlefront Elite squadron. Still believe to this day it would have been a better game than the ones from Dice, the PsP version really doesn't compare to what they were doing for the new gen consoles of the time and the game had a looooot of potential. Also it really felt like the old Star wars Battlefront games and I've got lots of good memories from testing it even though there was also tons of bugs 😅
We almost had Magnaguards??
DAMN YOU!! OH, DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!
This is why EA and DICE suck
star wars battlefront 2 is to this day the best game i have ever played in my entire life
The rebellion was built on hope! We will get a battlefront 3.
I loudly laughed when I read "there's not the same hunger for a sequel" 🤣
why hasn't any studio made a battlefront gameplay clone
Imagine a game set in the clone wars, where it has similar dark tones as in Republic Commando, a story mode following a clone straight from kamino, to geonosis, the clones early years in front of a hologram would serve as a tutorial level, then later on after the battle of geonosis there might be a time jump straight to the end of the war, and we will see how this clone’s meaning and purpose starts to fade, dramatic shift from action gameplay towards a more mellow and dark reality of the clones during the early years of the empire… then of course multiplayer, multiplayer which supports factions and individual customisation, helping create a unique feeling among players, players that may not meet in person, but only know them through their personalised armour (designed around their clone legion) and their CT number and nickname. Battlefront 2 has a rise in discord groups where clone legions come together into lobbies and play competitively. I think that whoever decides to make another multiplayer Star Wars game, should take those groups in account and design their game for those players, and also encourage newcomers to join up with a legion. What do y’all think?
Love it. Check it out, instead of an end-game choice that changes the outro… READY?!?!? …A MID game choice that changes the entire 2nd half of the game. “The Choice”… ‘To remove your inhibitor chip and trust your Jedi’ ‘Strike down the Jedi and restore order to the galaxy’
@@MrMann-gt1ehthat’s awesome!! Could base it around finding out about the chip on Kamino, after overhearing shaak-ti talking about it with a kaminoan, then perhaps after order 66 there would be a choice to go awol and remove the chip, or not to remove it and see the tragic treatment of clones by the empire. Removing the chip would be a great view of how he realises that his brothers are controlled, and being hunted by those elite clones. Eventually by the time of a new hope, the clone would have been 50 years old ish, finding the rebellion and training rebels on Yavin 4
Sounds good. Someone commented about how the game should be about idens daughter. But this sounds cool
Thank you for the look back.
I've got two questions, just out of curiousity:
Do you know, if Capital Supremacy would have recieved the ship phases of the OT maps as well? And were they planning to add some more content to Galactic Assault or was it even planned to introduce one more large scale game mode?
I'm honestly not sure, I THINK they planned on adding ship phases to OT maps as well but my memory is a bit vague on that. In regards to the GA content or larger modes I honestly don't know. I do know Dennis really like Walker Assault and might have tried to bring that back if they had a lot more time.
Whats crazy is that we don’t need a new game the graphics still look up to date just fix bugs and continue support if they want our money just make skins I’ll pay I’m sure we all would or a battle pass type system would work as well
You know what’s funny? EA still updates Star Wars galaxy of heros. A mobile game much like raid shadow legends. They just recently added the scout trooper and a new Ewok, but they won’t even think about their multiplayer shooter.
They have tons of little kids playing that where they can use their parents credit cards to pay for loot boxes. EA only cared about the money that is why they ended support for BAttlefront 2 early. I reckon maybe Disney should license the franchise to another developer.
@@akinfolarinabatan4508 true. However, Disney nowadays is just as money hungry. So they won’t see the problem.
so sad that there will never be a SWBF3.
It’s so silly. It would literally be a gold mine with endless concepts and game mechanics. The Star Wars universe is so vast and interesting yet EA just sees it as a gimmic and lightsaber go brrrrr. Such a wasted license hold.
@@owenJCC and not to mention they would rather make it a casino instead of a proper game
Thanks for the video really cool insights and appreciate keeping the discussion going in the community it's really interesting
The Star Cards idea is interesting, definitely would have been smart to decouple those from abilities, just make those separate Gadgets/Gear and Upgrades. Coolest part about the Star Cards is the art that comes on each card, and seeing how player cards are present in games like COD and BF2042, it would have been an easy cosmetic option. I remember reading a while ago that DICE conceptualized a "Star Card Marketplace" where you could trade them like baseball cards, do you know if that was ever an idea? Could've just been a rumor
Annual expansions could have worked if (a) they had free weekend events; and (b) they were made free and integrated into the default playlists after a year or two, such as when the next expansion was released. That's what they should've done with Battlefront 2015 and with Premium in all the Battlefield games before BFV. Alternatively they could have been combined with the Battle Pass idea, Battle Passes for every expansion so you don't split the playerbase
Also I think your idea of creating new multiplayer franchises to focus on specific genres of games is a good one too. One of the issues with Battlefront 2 is that people were expecting it to be an "everything" Star Wars game. Like the once popular idea of a podracing mode was cool, but it never really fit Battlefront. Or having a "For Honor" lightsaber combat system, which wouldn't really work in Battlefront either. But a hero shooter like Overwatch or Jedi vs. Sith combat game like For Honor or Chivalry? Looter shooter, battle royales, podracing game like Mario Kart, space shooters like Squadrons and Rogue Squadron? Like Starfighter Assault could be a game of its own, and imagine how much better the HvV experience would be in a proper title. Not that Battlefront should get rid of hero modes and space battles, but just that other game franchises should be allowed to really specialize in them. It would allow them to focus on their niche to maximize their gameplay, otherwise when you're dealing with a massive multiplayer shooter like Battlefront you have to make trade-offs for the sake of balance. Still wish we could see a Battlefront 3.
It’s clear EA is just butthurt over how Battlefront ruined their loot box strategy. Let’s hope they come to their senses and greenlight a Battlefront III someday, or even just have another studio make a battlefront game.
This game would’ve been fine if EA didn’t get super greedy with the loot boxes
warhammer 40k theme in battlefront 2 gameplay style😋
I think they can make a game that sells millions more than jedi survivor, the maps the characters, maybe a good story mode where you play as jedi sith and/or troopers. Why can’t they see this potential to reach their full potential
We at least need a OG battlefront 2 remaster. Doesn't really need to have online multiplayer just all the single player modes it had
Makes me so sad man! It was all so good. The team - community were perfect. Need an mp game soon. I love the story games but all it is is such overkill especially with the replay ability
Totally off topic question, what is the mod you're playing (it looks like BF 2022) and how did you set up Kyber servers with bots? (I'm new to it so I wanted to ask, that and I struggle getting BF 2022 running without crashing on OT maps)
What Battlefront really needs is to make the *permanently acquired* characters feature.
What I mean by this is I remember I once grinded enough battlepass credits for say Darth Maul, only to find out that once the BattlePass expired, I had to *re-grind/re-purchase* the Darth Maul character all over again.
The series is so cursed that 2 amazing Battlefront 3 games were canceled. Super unfortunate.
All I’m sayin is imagine a Star Wars game set up like destiny 2, where you go through all the different eras of time in expansions, but with the lightsaber combat like battfront🔥🔥🔥
Battlefront*😭🤣
Man if only we got an extra roadmap year like the one we copped with Grevious, Obi, Dooku, Ani etc
The problem with modern games is that studios should hire and adopt the correct marketing people / politics. There IS a HUGE demand for more MP good Star Wars games. If devs think otherwise they are really, but really out of touch and know nothing about what players (customers) want. There is money to be made, they just need to stop predatory monetization and care more about quality overall.
I really hope we get a battlefront 3 a sequel for this battlefront 2 game with Iden’s daughter as the main character in the story for the story
Yawn
im honestly sick of hearing talk about a game we'll never get. Bad enough it feels so cursed its just not allowed to happen, now people wont stop talking about it. Its just a constant haunting reminder of a shattered dream
this is also why I don't want DICE to make a battlefront 3, almost all people who fought to give us the game we deserved have already left.
someday maybe there will be a battlefront 3.
We are gonna get a battlefront 3 before gta 6 🙏😭
it's still such a shame they canned a great game with such a thriving community. If Star Wars was a more lenient license and Dice was an indie game studio, you know they'd still be working on the game. But instead we got corporate bullcrap to ruin everything. All EA cares about is the next big dollar sign
Honestly still stings every time BF3 keeps getting pushed further away, its like looking back at the old 501st diary's when I remember those amazing 3 hour Capital supremacy battles...
I never had any hope to begin with because it was cancelled not ONCE but THREE times
Fantastic video. You only have to look at the numbers to see that battlefront 3 or a multiplayer Star Wars game would be a massive hit. But they won’t make it out of spite at this point
All i want is a server list.
I’ve been playing this game again religiously it’s truly a diamond in the rough that had so much more it could have been. Hope EA pulls their heads out their asses soon and release another Battlefront.
I Feel like respawn could make a good battlefront game but any company that decides to make bf3 should hire some of the bf2 devs since they all want to make bf3 so basically bf3 already has a dev team they just need to be given the green light by someone
i think if there is another huge star wars movie battlefront 3 should come in as a final in the games ‘trilogy’. it should have balanced characters, most of what bf2 had and maybe less cluttered + mace windu, qui gon, ahsoka and new characters. it should be 60 fps atleast for consoles, and have some of the best older modes + new fun modes with similar levelling up systems
i hope the same revival that just happened to titanfall 2 happens to battlefront 2
As a developer and game publisher you CANNOT actively insult your customer base and then deliberately misinterpret their disdain as a “lack of hunger” for new projects
Honestly all I would want is a lightsaber combat overhaul and maybe give some heroes a little more health regen so they cant get one shotted and just sit at the back of the map
I just don't see how they can make the argument that a game which sold millions of copies for $60-80 a pop is somehow not financially viable. I think that is more an EA problem than one that the fans should be concerned with by "chipping in" to support development. These are massive publicly traded companies. These are star wars games. How is it possible that they needed micro-transactions in these games to make money? What has changed so drastically since Lucasarts that have made Star Wars games basically a scam?
It is just sad to see all these corporations tank franchises. It is like nobody who makes the decisions actually cares.
We need a remastered for Star Wars battlefront 1 2004 and Star Wars battlefront 2 2005
That's never gonna happen unfortunately
@@kieronspiteri Sony should add it to the ps premium classics
@user-Kenshi122 but I don't think they will so plus there old also
@@kieronspiteri we are getting the ps2 emulator on the ps5 trust me we might be getting both of the classic battlefront 1 and battlefront 2 on the ps plus premium
@@kieronspiteri we are getting a lot more classics on the premium they might be one of them
I always thought it was so stupid that EA shot the pitch down because they needed “20% more sales.” It’s like, why did you even buy the Star Wars license in the first place if that was such a big issue for you? Seriously, if they weren’t willing to do anything with the license, they should’ve just given it to someone else. I’m glad other developers are finally getting a chance with the franchise.
i loved bf 2 cause it feelt like it was the perfect mix of competitiv and causual shooter
Which stream was it where you and Guillaume talked about potential abilities for Ashoka?
Only OGs remember when anakin released and started choking droids and himself.
Honestly I feel like EA didn’t care about BF2 they were only interested in the money, and when battle front 2 was at its last update they felt like they weren’t making the money they wanted like what they got in FIFA. But the fact that they don’t want anybody in EA making a new BF game
Battlefront 3 seems like a cursed game concept.
It is and always will
4 years of No update
7 Years With no new Battlefront
DICE PLEASE MAKE BATTLEFRONT 3 HAPPEN AND MY LIFE IS YOOOUURSSS
What a shame man. They made bf2 so awesome after they fixed it and we loved the years with the updates and all the new stuff they added. So much good times. They should've kept going or come back to the bf3 idea. They see the hype for it.. it would sell. I hate EA man lol
Watching this video makes me even more bummed about there not being a future for the Battlefront franchise at this time.
Man. I really miss the live service days.
Having some skins that are $ only makes sense. As long as you get the characters, the skins just become a fun add-on. Map packs for $ makes sense too.
I loved this game, didn't want the content to end, I was even willing to pay for further content, shame that BF3 won't happen.
HvV honestly could have been on an esports level of gameplay with ranked etc. If this game had hero support up to this day.
Idea: get all the make a wish kids to ask for dice to continue support
This is genius
I'm old school about DLC as I knew it. You pay anywhere between 10-20 bucks and then call it a day.
Now cosmetics i see nothing wrong giving bread for. Its you shopong attire for wat eva in game item.
Seems like kyber and mods are the only option for online star wars pvp for a long time
where were the dennis youtube stream screenshots from, was it one of your streams?
Yes, the 5 years anniversary stream for BF2 :)
@@BattlefrontUpdates thanks!
Its so sad. Ea just has to ruin everything everytime
EA is seriously on Life Support. Nothing coming out of EA in the last 5 years has not come with massive controversy. It’s a freaking shame cause BF2 still to this day has better gameplay then current games.
Man the annual expansion would have been insane. This video is awesome but makes me even sadder now haha.
Because let's be honest from the gameplay to the art to everything in this game was just amazing even graphicaly now in 2023 it looks amazing and runs so well.
I will always be happy to know some of my game pictures were on the community wall. This was truly one of the highlight of my life.
We need this if not updated hero vs villian’s as 6v6 like team death match on Cod
I had heard we were getting a BF3 like last year and nothing... I just went back to part 2. BF 3 could have so much new junk since D+ tons of new troopers, characters, and worlds to add it would be bonkers.
I think if they did another Star Wars Battlefront game.. All characters/classes & vehicles/ships should have 3rd person & first person/cockpit camera views. The only reason I haven’t played battlefront since the PS2/X-Box era is I always think of it as a 3rd person shooter game and I’m more into 1st person because it’s more immersive and I just enjoy it more that way. I love Battlefield 2042 and I love Star Wars Squadrons so I’m thinking of trying out Star Wars Battlefront 2 finally. I hear it has decent single player and you can play some of the multiplayer game modes with bots. It sounds like it has a lot of replay value and that’s what I look for in my shooters. It’s a shame modern gaming like open world games aren’t great for replay value. I remember really liking both the original Battlefront & Battlefront 2 games back in the day! Thanks for the video!
After a while I played Battlefront 2 (2) and was again reminded how soulless it feels. It can bring a moment of fun with a friend bu there is no depth or feel to the game. The "character development" via the gambling cards is just pathetic excuse for a game design.
I loved to play Battlefront 2 (1) both alone and with a friend in split screen co-op. We kept battling together and against each other in custom instant action and in galactic conquest. We even made our own paper map and had our own galactic conquest. But we could do none of that in split screen with the new SWBF2(2). I still keep hoping that eventually we could get a proper Star Wars shooter which would have a great single player story, great instant action for split screen and as a bonus I would love a good online experience.
Star Wars trilogy games are a cursed phenomenon, kotor 3, battlefront 3
I have a feeling these aren't the actual reasons they didn't do bf3. No company would miss out on the chance to make so much money unless they know something we don't.
Its 2023, its not fine that star wars games that come out are single player. Its ridiculous
Thank you for making this, I had no idea about that tweet. Crazy! If we ever get another one I hope they add the ability to fire the ion cannon into spaceships from the planet. As well as being able to fly to and from the planet in-game. Oh and escape pods too like in Star Wars: Renegade Squadron
I would just wish that they would have been more trasparent regarding monitization. Because in the end, most people would be willing AND understanding a funding to keep this game running.
After so long with nothing in return? No wonder they took this path. But IF they would have been bold enough to just ask the players about the 2 options. Either we try to add monitization or the game would die. Guess what our answer would have been.
bf3 would need more content and a complete vehicle overhaul. The original games vehicles were god-tier and awesome
If EA or DICE make Battlefront 3 this is I want
Replace sequel trilogy with mandoverse
No starcard system
Galactic conquest
More PT and OT planets like coruscant utapau mygeeto mustafar
More customization
Ground to space combat
50 weapon
More reinforcement for the battlefront
Cross faction from original battlefront 2004-2005
More heroes and villains
Drivable vehicles not on rails
Unfortunately with these big game companies and publishers its all about how well it sells at launch, investors and shareholders don't care how much it makes over multiple years, this is the sad truth of the industry
It’s so crazy to me when I hear this stuff. I’m no expert on the financials but the Star Wars brand sells. Stick a sw label on a toilet and you will have people buying it because it is a huge brand. I don’t understand how the financial aspect could possibly be a problem. I have lost a lot of faith in ea recently