CeeDee absent at camp, Dak voted overrated, Ja'Marr Chase's message to Mahomes | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- Nick Wright, Greg Jennings and Kevin Wildes react to the report of CeeDee Lamb's absence from training camp and decide if this cements the Dallas Cowboys' rocky offseason. The crew then reacts to Dak Prescott being voted the most overrated Cowboy by fans and Ja'Marr Chase's comments about not saying Patrick Mahomes' name when asked who is the No. 1 ranked QB in the NFL.
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God No
@@jonosay854😂😂😂
ja’marr literally admitted he was salty in that same clip what yall on about lmao
Why you comment the same exact thing on two different profiles? 😂 atleast we know this is your fake hot girl profile lmaooo wtf
and? Doesn’t change the facts 😂
They don’t listen.
@@RedKingdom28facts is the bengals still have a winning head to head record against mahomes and if we have a healthy burrow we beat yall every time
Chase about to top all the receivers 😂😂. Trust me he not salty😂 the longer he waits the better
Fully deserved a 2 hours show. This is now the UNDISPUTED best show on FS1
Been better than them
Turing into undisputed with the all the cowboys talk
Been the best show
Yes
@@poloregal facts
Mahomes is like Joe Hendry if you say his name he will appear.😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most will not get this reference. I do.
I believe in Joe Hendry!
@jerodgraham6623 most won't but they will become believers.🤣🤣🤣
Uh that would actually would be Candyman.
@PresidentialRel you're a fool!🤣🤣🤣 Say it right now say Joe Hendry and he will appear. Try it say it out loud and see what happens say his name.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Joe Burrow looking like mad dog from haikyuu with that haircut
Virgil from Devil May Cry.
looks like a dude from American History X
Cody Rhodes
Slim Shady
Best sports show on TV
💯 percent
Big facts! & its not even close 💯
Wb speak with acho
@@D.ocument.The.Journey lol
No... Inside the NBA is a million times better
I actively think Jerry is trying to out compete the Jets for noisiest off season.
How Cowboys haven't signed any1. At least Jets signed players
@@EricHajosch I said noise, not signings.
Even cowboy fans have to be bored by this topic
No they should be furious 😂
They won’t like to hear the truth since they are all delusional
We are bored and mad lol
We are. Dak ain’t overrated he is what he is. A real fan knows what Dak is. The media are the ones who underrate him.
@bandit4life575 like fr every show I go to the hate on dak is extreme and then people gonna say he's overrated how??
When will we realize that QBs don't play against each other but against defenses?
Can y’all please explain to me and tell me how someone is overrated when literally nobody thinks he’s good?!?!?!
That’s kind of the whole point
Nick think he’s good no cap he still thinks the cowboys will have a better season than the eagles because of dak 😂
@@ccmd2707dude was a 4th round pick… Lamar is what you would call overrated. Two mvps and got the same amount of playoff wins as Dak😩😭🤦🏽♂️
@@ikethomas5008Dak had a better team & still continues to lose in a weak conference 😂😂😂
@@ikethomas5008
Ouch!
Truth.
How is any team gonna be able to have a good team if we're paying 90 mil for 2 players on every team, since it's next man up?
Can we accurately say that Daks ceiling is Alex Smith? Good not great player
No. That’s goofy.
It's the Kurt cousins teir.... smith won some playoff game
Bro thats a horrible take just given what Dak did last season. Switch Dak with Brock Purdy and he would probably have a ring. Its just the league is getting more and more stacked each year because players are just coming into the league better and more prepared for everything.
@@MmaMadman85 someone who gets it😩😭🤦🏽♂️
@@aaronclay4665 yall sound goofy. You are measuring team accomplishments, not player
The classic football music that starts immediately when The Board comes out is pure gold 😂
Ceedee deserves a bag just not JJ money
He’s gonna get it. Keep playing with him he’s gonna jack the tag up or he’s just gonna walk. And it’s all the cowboys front office fault.
Doesn’t work that way. Ur worth what teams are willing to pay for you. Cowboys don’t give him what he wants? Another team will
@@MilkiasDebessaywhich is fine cause that team will probably be worse. Ceedee would have to hope that it’s a team that just happens to have the money and the spot. Otherwise he’s Adams on the raiders
Not even AJ money
You can tell this guy doesn't really watch football 😂😂😂😂😂
It’s always funny to me how he talks about dak vs how he talks about Lamar
Dak has played 4 years longer, and has one more playoff loss.
@@JohnClarkW
The last three years daks playoffs have ended poorly but he still get that benefit of the doubt form him but is on the other end with Lamar over his playoffs losses
As a Cowboys fan, I fully understand the hesitancy to handout record-breaking deals after Zeke's contract. And he was on a HOF trajectory, at the time.
Facts
Agreed but QB is different. They just don't know if Dak is the guy and they're paying a premium for the convenience of "wait and see"
@@timocruz510 Everyone with at least half a brain knows that Dak is NOT "the guy". We all know EXACTLY what Dak is, and it's not even close to that.
QB& WR went into the year to pad stats against poor teams
"Burrows Back".... the producers knew he looks like slim shady with that haircut!! lol
A Sunday afternoon in January 😭 you mean a playoff game 🤣
Hey Nick! I haven’t liked Dak since whoever decided to keep him in when Tony was healthy again! Not just after his ‘one loss in January’!!!
Dak Prescott has gagged a lot more than one freaking game
Yup… he gagged in Pasadena against the Rams. He gagged out in San Francisco two years ago, when the Cowboys defense put on a show in the 1st half. He gagged in the home game against San Francisco three years ago. He gagged last year against Green Bay. And he gagged in his rookie year as a #1 seed against Green Bay. That’s all he has done.
This is a team game- dak is not all at fault- he does not play defense- and the defense really did not do as good as they should have. I believe having lamb was bad at the end- you can see that Dak was forced to try to get the ball to lamb- lamb could not get open in the end when it mattered .
Wrong daks defense gave up under 23 points on both losses in playoffs the previous 2 seasons dak choked
Dak has never "been the answer". To even a phone call.
The Cowboys fan base is not over Dak.
And in the playoffs Dak isn’t the only one who struggles. That’s defense got ran all over
So coaching...
Nah they love to put all the blame on him every time. As if in that last game ceedee wasn’t bad either
the coachs were horrible and should give part of their salary back!
The D gets tired when it's on the field all day cus Dak goes 3 n out...
Biggest Cowboys Choker in History 9 years wasted ,Nothing to show for it!!!!
What about undrafted Romo who got a 100 mil contract and then retired?
@@mistermanishify so what are you trying to say?22 yrs. 2- Big Chokers
What about the non-existent defense minus the one year. 🤔
Our Cowboys haved chocked for 30 years plus what the defense not showing up.
@@captainchaosxx3866 Defence played fine in SF in 2022. And against SF in 2021...
Baker,Golf,Stafford,Purdy,Hurst,CJ,Love ,Lamar Allen,Borrow,10 QB. Ahead of Mr Choker
Literally every single QB on this list is a choker
@@kccobbs Purdy? Really
@@Leo-DaGreek yep he had a better team than Mahomes and lost
@@kccobbs I’ll take a NFC Championship Banner every year
This team is nowhere near ,San Francisco,Packers,Detroit,Rams,Eagles
Why do people group Burrow's regular season wins against KC into his record?
Nobody cares that Allen's beaten Mahomes in KC the last 3 straight years, because they're 0-3 in the playoffs.
In that regard, Burrow is 1-1 against Mahomes, and the last win was 3 years ago.
exactly!
And his playoff win against mahomes was more of mahomes melting down for the first time than burrow doing anything
Genuinely cannot remember another QB that was talked about the same way coming off a 2nd Team All Pro year, where they led the league in pass tds and team was #1 in ppg. Its wild
Its bc hes had good regular seasons his whole career that lead to nothing when it matters
@@Hatz127 where you got Lamar ranked?
@@zacht7135 lamars played less and done more
@@Hatz127 that's not an answer tho. MVPs should be 1 to 1. Last year Dak contributed over 2x the value as Lamar with a worse team. And Lamars 2019 was unreal, but its about to be 5 years ago. Lamar made a conf champ, yes, but only because his team gave up 10pt in the divisional. For their careers, their playoff defenses have given up:
Lamar = 17ppg
Dak = 27.1ppg
That's the difference between the #2 and #31 defenses last regular season. Then you can look at their own PPG in the playoffs
Lamar = 15.8ppg
Dak = 24.1ppg
That's the difference between the #29 offense and #8 offense last regular season.
Then you can look at efficiency the last 3 years. EPA/play since 2021 among QBs with 250+ plays (playoffs included)
Lamar = #17
Dak = #4
And this isn't to say Dak is better. If someone likes Lamar more, that's fine. My problem is with how they are each talked about.
@@zacht7135 i think lamar gets critiqued in the same vain as dak just not as much because Dak plays for the Cowboys. Lamars better but has similar issues in the playoffs. Very nice statistical run down between the 2
What were Micah's numbers in the playoffs?
Or against legit teams, not tomato cans...
Parsons was terrible against the Packers. I believe this year it was one tackle and zero sacks
@@j.burgess4042what about the year before if you happen to know
If Dak doesn’t get his deal, Cowboys going all in on Sheduer and Deion.
Yep let’s go get the coach and QB who couldn’t win in college
What have either one of them done that makes you think Jerry and Stephen would desire to have them?
@@kccobbsdumb argument. Did mahomes win in college ?
@@Glock2201 Jerry LOVES to Talk...And PRIME won him a Super Bowl.
That Home field advantage is over with Nick
Nick always fails to mention the cupcake home sched they had last year. Toughest test was the Lions and that was it basically. I guess Eagles too
@@timocruz510 out of the 36 wins in 3- years ,12- we’re against NY& Washington,Throw in Carolina,Falcons,Saints,Chicago.Indyect-
Did both sides really misunderstand this? Chase has learned to not give bulletin board material anymore to KC, and he doesn't want to admit Mahomes is better than Burrow
John Elway saw this coming years ago when he said: teams have to stop paying average quarterbacks: elite quarterback money.
Love it or hate it, but Nick talking about the Bengals is always must-see tv.
Yea Mahomes has earned the right to be respected enough at this early point in his career already to not even ENTERTAIN these stupid hypothetical debates. No one is on Mahomes' level. Period. Dude has won more than many QBs right behind him would even dream of. Debate Burrow and Allen and Lamar if you want. Leave Mahomes out of it. It's not the same anymore. Ppl will bring up Burrow beating him that one time in AFC CG like it was a Super bowl or something. What did Burrow and Cincy do with that gift? Nothing. The following years Cincy eliminated by KC and they won a SB the very next year after winning vs Cincy. Burrow vs Mahomes is a wrap lol
Adding 30 min to this show in the offseason- you KNOW theres gonna be a 20 min 'boys C Block lmao
Watching Greg push back on Nick and seeing Nick get flustered over and over really shows how much Wildes and Brou have begun to let Nick run wild on this show
This what ai said when I said Jamar Chase is the most talented wr in the league. AI:You're highlighting the nuances of Ja'Marr Chase's game that go beyond statistics. His:
1. Speed: Elite-level speed that allows him to separate from defenders and take the top off a defense.
2. Strength: Physicality and ability to break tackles, making him a nightmare to bring down.
3. YAC (Yards After Catch): Ability to make plays in the open field, breaking tackles, and gaining extra yards.
4. Vertical threat: Capacity to stretch defenses with his deep speed and ball-tracking skills.
5. Release: Quickness and technique off the line of scrimmage, making it difficult for corners to press him.
6. Explosiveness: Dynamic ability to accelerate and decelerate quickly, creating separation and making big plays.
These traits are often referred to as "uncoachable" skills, as they're largely innate and difficult to teach. You're right; stats don't always capture the full essence of a player's abilities, especially when it comes to athleticism and playmaking potential.
Film and highlights can indeed provide a more comprehensive understanding of a player's skills, showcasing their ability to make game-changing plays and dominate defenders in ways that stats might not fully convey.
Do you think Ja'Marr Chase has the potential to become the best WR in the league, or is there another player you think could rival him?
Don't pay lamb
Greg has been a huge Dak supporter most of the time so I am a little surprised that he was not all about how great Dak is in this video. He mentioned something about all QB's being compared to Mahommes and asking the question can your QB beat him. As a cowboys fan I have seen Dak lose to Jimmy G, a rookie, and a first year starter in the playoffs last season so how can we expect him to beat someone like Mahommes.
The insert that Wyldes brought up about Dak being 1-10 as an underdog is really telling and really goes to show that so many people that are called Dak haters are actually spot on with their assessments of him. The TD-INT ration in those 11 games are also telling as well as scoring almost half the points a game compared to when they are favorites.
Love when the board gets rolled out.
B Jennings is entertaining
They keep talking about Dak records last year, but never talk about how many teams they beat with a winning record and I'm a Cowboys fan
Dallas would be way to top heavy if they sign all those players for what they want!
"Because I'm here‼️" 😤🔥
Mahomes is gonna give chase the Walter white “say my name” special.
WR will never touch those numbers again !!!
2 hours of the best show on tv, UA-cam clips, plus the podcast. We will catch Mr. Beast!
Been saying this for years: Dak Prescott is prime Andy Dalton with a star on his helmet; he’s the baseline of what you want from the QB position, but you’re not confident he’ll be the reason your team won
They don't let Greg Jennings make a point at all
As a cowboys fan, we are sickened by the offseason
As a cowboys fan, i don’t even think about Patrick. Let’s just try beating the team from the bay
Mahomes is overrated. Dude got lucky to have one of the best defenses, coaches, and he wins low scoring games and people always act like it was ALL him for the wins.
Jamar runs his mouth without backing it up?
Nothing new.
Pat living rent free, got his feet on the couch, eating his food and drinking his Coors light
@@DenBover-pf7xk with three more rings than Jamar and his whole teams history will ever have
Pat is like Jordan blocking mfs from the title
I think it's more for entertainment lol......
Wildes, what do you tell CJ Stroud to say when the media inevitably asks him about the "sophomore slump."
Dak isn't overrated. He's led top offenses under three different Play Callers, two different HCs and with receivers like a post-acl Michael Gallup and a Noah Brown. Letting Amari Cooper go for a single grain of rice is on the Jones boys, not Dak.
Being Salty and refusing to say someone's name is not the same as being scared to. Nick isnt arguing his own point lmao
He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named has entered the chat....
are u 5 yrs old?
“Rogue cowboy” could’ve rendered a option as a caption
It’s as simple as this: There is one thing and one thing only that could legitimize the notion of Burrow being better than Mahomes, namely the fact Burrow is the only quarterback not called Tom Brady to be able to beat Mahomes in the playoffs. But the thing is that Mahomes already busted that myth by beating Burrow and the Bengals in the 2022 AFC Championship Game. So there‘s really nothing to keep that argument alive, and I don’t know why so many people just don’t get it.
Is Nick okay? it looks like he's wearing some sort of back brace.
On his podcast he said he might have slipped a disc in his back trying to push a jetski lol
@@postytoasty50 thank you. In the next segment he says something about his hamstring and that they'll do a short on it.
@@postytoasty50 also, I think I need to listen to that full episode to hear that story.
@francescosmith7859 true in the podcast he also talks about his tryout for the US open ball boy was coming up and he was upset because his back hurt before it lol he's falling apart haha
@@postytoasty50he has more money then ull ever have😂
I believe that they’re misinterpreting what Jerry is saying. If I push all my chips in then you ask me on the next hand if I want to make a bet, I could say “I’m all in”. Jerry is saying he spent what he’s gonna spend.
Wildes kinda hard to be available 24/7 on a part time job lol
Greg and James jones are both good. Should stay on shows for a long time.
He knows Pat is better and respects him, but Burrow is his guy.
That one game in overtime also prevent your possible three peat and they’ll do it again this year hahaha
It’s not just one game performance for Dak Prescott. It’s 7 year sample size of his record being horrendous against teams above 500. I don’t understand why you guys don’t ever throw up that stat.
@@darkmxhishot7475 because every QB besides Mahomes is bad in that stat lol
I think that paying CeeDee Lamb is a waste of money when Dallas does not have a QB.
Excellent arguments. CeeDee and Micah deserve every penny they're asking for. Dak deserves to be near the top, but not the top unless they do something in big games and postseason.
Honestly I would wait to get paid at this point… the price is always rising
Cowboys supporter for over 30yrs &I've never been in on Dak. Romo should've been the starter once he was healthy during Dak's rookie year, it was Zeke carrying the squad the first three seasons. Dak had the best offensive-line in the league, for the first 7-years of his career. Great draft picks have helped prop Dak up &I thought they should've let him walk after his rookie contract was up but at the time the Cowboys just had O-linemen to pay. Now they have WR, DE, Safety &DB. Unless Dak takes 50-53 million the Cowboys need to go the 49ers route &just tryout a ton of QBs &make sure there's insane talent all over the field
Keep that same energy!!!!
What do yall think about having skip on for an episode?
🤢
12:02 is crazy funny!
*Wildes:* I gonna hammer that Ravens line. HAMMERING!
*Nick:* What is that... seven... eight dollars? 🤣🤣
*Wildes:* (that's 3x) 💀
I dare you to introduce yourself to Bosa and call him Nicky to his face
I swear I will not sit and listen to wr and qb talk everyday for the next 6 months!..this is football where it takes all 11 men to do their job for a play to be successful so to focus on two positions for the whole season is just ridiculous..
Dallas will DEFINITELY be the underdog at home against the Ravens. They might not have been in past years, but this year ... absolutely.
The Cincinnati Bengals are going to take the Dallas Cowboys to school this year on Monday night football in Dallas.
Ikr
no one cares
"aaron rodgers has thrown for 300 yds more recently than burrow has beaten patrick mahomes."
aaron rodgers has thrown for 300 yds more recently than burrow has been a good reliable qb...but he still gets levitated above lamar for some reason even though lamar is winning mvps...odd.
It’s so funny how visibly scared Nick is of the Bengals with a healthy Joe Burrow😂😂😂
Bagels will always be the bagels. Still claiming the 3-2 record against mahomes 💀
This is definitely a mistake that the Dallas Cowboys Management should make sure that they never make again
Beautiful argument! 😂
my favorite nick bit is mostly not caring about quotes but turning anything that isn’t overwhelming chiefs/mahomes praise into bulletin board material
It’s incredibly weak, and nothing that is necessary for a team to be motivated. It’s one of the worst bits of the show
@@vidalrodriguez2001 i mean i laugh because of how pathetic it sounds but i respect his fandom. he’s like the michael jordan of chiefs fans, finding any sort of thing to take personally and come out firing.
Dak since 2019 have consistently been a top 5 QB we really got to stop this
Dak has the same numbers as mahomes but he’s overrated? Then he says Dallas struggles in the playoffs has been qb lmao like defense hasn’t been able to stop the run for the past 7 years. Clowns
Patrick Mahomes: “say my name”
Dak is 14th-18th qb in the league at any given time. That is not good. He should get 30 for being half as good as the best
The dude just got 2nd in mvp …a 14th ranked qb don’t ever do that…not in not saying he’s top 6 cause he’s not barely to 8 but let’s be real …if he wasn’t in Dallas the dude would be praised a lot more. He is hated cause of the team he is on. The dudes stats are actually crazy
@@yahircisneros9900 it’s actually crazy that we count the storming back to still lose stats against prevent defenses. The guy is the ufcking definition of average on a good day
@@timesize the dude leades the nfl in almost every qb catagory was 2nd in mvp and has had back to back to back 12 win seasons….
@@yahircisneros9900Sorry Dude, Dak pads his stats when the game has already been decided, or against Prevent Defense...
Check his first half stats against his second half stats and most of them comes when either they are winning or the other team has given up
According to my records Dallas is 4-1 ATS as home dogs. 3 of those games were in 2020.
Perhaps true, but beating the spread doesn't count in the win columns.
I've never seen anyone receive the kind of hatred that Dak gets. You'd think he was the worst person in the world or something. Good lord.
Bro y'all are tripping hard over jamars comments. He literally said he was salty about losing 2 years in a row to them he acknowledged how good mahomes is smh 🤦🏽♂️ quit reaching hard Nick
I know this show is not Colin show. But when he was talking about how to pay a person. He had 3 factors
1 is health. R u healthy or pron to injury
2 r u a good player or do the people around make u good
3 do u improve during regular season or in playoffs.
Honestly I like it. It would stop the whole he got this much so I deserve this much
Everyone knows Jerry Jones is gonna pay Ceedee Lamb. I don't understand why they make it such a big deal just because he hasn't signed him yet. Jerry is a business man let him do his job to figure out how to pay Ceedee to make him happy.
For the cowboys the best answer is no Dak. U could have Micah and ceedee for a little over what Dak would cost, so I have no doubt that he shouldn’t be resigned
Ja'marr didnt say why, probably because that clip of burrow saying Jefferson was a better receiver
I think Nick overestimates how many great teams the cowboys have played over the last 3 years lol
Dak is good but he doesn't make those around him better. That's ok if Dak is looking for a sensible contract, not a record-breaking contract. But some team is going to pay Dak $60MM in the offseason if Cowboys let him walk.
Jennings is pretty spot on
Dak can’t be overrated if everyone says he’s overrated lmao
That makes absolutely zero sense
@@inkarceration4069 why not lol
@@FatePokemon so if everyone says Carolina sucks it can't be true because everyone says it?? Makes zero sense
"here we go"...again
Mahomes is also underrated cos there r still people who somehow don’t think he is objectively the best player on the league
The Cowboys should pay all their stars so they'll have to give up half the team next year and not make the playoffs.