A Yoo this dak stuff makes me laugh.Daniel Jones is considered an overpaid bust still young tho He has 1 less playoff win and 1 more road playoff win than dak 😂.He has the ravens/Lamar out of the playoffs and had cowboys/dak in the Super Bowl 😂 😅😂 What a joke.Stick to badminton Also good for Jerry don’t pay him produce mf And whichever team pays him next year will be a joke.He’s gonna look like Russ on the broncos minus the hardware pause Thanks I’ll be here all week
Off season will do that to ya, nothing too notable to talk about, so sports hosts gotta stretch their time somehow. Same reason why they keep talking about Rodgers too
@@justinmedeiros7600 lmao fair but like I mean idk indulge me with the bad teams tell us how bad they’ll be or like if they have any shining gems, which teams will take the place of a playoff team from this past season
Agreed. I just wish there were other sports stories right now. If only a once every four year world wide sporting event was happening. Or is a future hall of fame baseball player suffered a season ending injury. That would give these shows other topics. Too bad we don’t live in that world and we need to talk about Dak for the 5th time this week.
Ehh , he still gives the info in a disingenuous way. Like saying Trevor's getting 55 a year. He's not getting that and Nick knows it. Trevor's at 41-42 a year not 55😂😂😂
@jojoCFP lol. He got an extension while still having 2 years left on his Rookie contract. So you avg the money out( remaining rookie contract and extension) over the span of the 7 years overall not 5.
Nick has a point about Allen being talked about too much based on what he can be rather than what he’s accomplished, where he hasn’t won anything, and the Jordan comparison is pretty ridiculous. In that sense, he is prematurely overhyped. But it’s a bit rich for Nick to say that when he does the exact same thing with Trevor and Caleb. You can’t complain about the Favre comparison with Allen when you’ve compared Lawrence to Peyton Manning.
Hard to blame him for not winning anything when he was 13 seconds away from being in the SB and likely winning it. Allen put up all-time great playoff performances that year. Blame the HC that for some reason even after that 13 second debacle gets no blame. No one even talks about Sean Mcdermott.
Haven't started the video yet but I'm willing to bet my house Nick will bring up Allen passer rating lol (funny how he judges Allen based on passer rating but Purdy having the best PR last year is irrelevant in his case)
That's a false equivalent. Allen from a historical, statistical, and eye test context is what his rating says he is. It's not the same situation at all
As a cowboys fan, dak is going to get that. I have a question, would The Browns be better if they had Dak at Quarterback with that #1 defense? Would Miami be better with Dak? Would the Eagles be better with Dak? Would the 49ers be better with Dak? He has played good enough even though he hasn’t showed up in the playoffs the last few years against the 49ers.
None of those teams would be better with stat padder Dak beating up on bottom tier and losing to the good ones. Best garbage time stat padder in the NFL.
its like people forget he was 13 seconds away from being in the SB and likely winning it... but I guess its Allen's fault his defensive coach told the defense to play sidelines and allow the Chiefs to get into FG range within 10 seconds.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 can't stand nick but to be fair he isn't saying Josh isn't fun I think josh is great but we can't attack nick for a take that isn't his, just attack him for downplaying josh ability and you will be correct lol
Yes he does!! You know why he was awful vs Bengals at home in Buffalo blizzard?!? Because he cheated on his longtime girlfriend, who he was engaged to, got a nurse pregnant, then paid that off so outside of Buffalo its hardly mentioned.. he then hooked up with Hailee Steinfeld Stephon Diggs the only player who wanted to win title gets blamed an dismissed for caring an being too passionate about?! Wanting to win, sure he dropped that pass, allen also missed him wide open a cross, would have been easy 1st&goal.. but he short armed a pass under pressure First game this past season vs Jets Allen had 3awful Ints Diggs called him out in front of team too no more of this same ol BS
Even though Lamar is playing for argueably the best organization over the past 20 years and probably WILL NOT deliver a chip? Dude is straight up BAD in the playoffs...You know how you know he isn't a great QB, only a great athlete? Well, everyone saying he tried to THROW TOO MUCH IN THE PLAYOFF LOSS...You think people would ever say that about Mahomes...Stafford...Stroud...Burrow...No...bc they can all destroy you in the air, as the position is intended. Dak is actually a better QB than Lamar, overall, but also a playoff failure. How many 1st round wrs does Lamar have to ruin while we hear that he has no weapons??? Mahomes won a SB with nobody...Stafford made a 5th round receiver the greatest rookie receiver of ALL TIME...
@@oblivionpro69 he says he hates QB wins, but constantly brings up win/loss records when QBs go against each other, as if it’s basketball or something. The QBs don’t play against each other, they play against the opposing defenses lol
@@UniversoulSMOOV999nah he always makes fun of Wildes and Brou for bringing QB wins up…even though he always does himself. And will preface it each time with “I’m not a big QB wins guy”.
Allen has nearly 4x as many playoff TDs and 2 less INTs than Lamar. These two QBs arent even comparable... but of course Lamar is praised for no other reason than because he won a popularity contest twice lol.
@@cali-guy9015Losing the first game in the playoffs knocks you out of the top 3 mvp race.. take away daks first read and he’s worse than trey lance. And brock was better than dak last season. Oh and brock beat dak again last season too
He brings up josh allen passer rating(very old and antiquated stat developed in 1973 for qbs of that era) as if for the last 4 years he's been 4 different than patrick mahomes lol
@@BBM716 no, he's been right. Josh Allen WAS overrated for years, he NEVER beat Mahomes in the playoffs, and he IS a rollercoaster. He HASN'T accomplished anything and currently ISN'T a HOF player, even though he has the raw talent to be.
Free agency is not about being great, elite, etc. it’s about being FREE. Teams who are in desperate need of a QB will overpay for Dak. Raiders are going to hand him that much money just to get him there. Dak knows that in FA, he’d have a large market. I think he’s average, but he’s going to be free so it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks.
Why does Nick completely discount Josh's running game in critiquing him? That's like saying we don't count RBs receptions because they're supposed to run the ball.
@@danielogeda1919MVPs do not matter in the slightest. Almost as much of a joke as the pro bowl. There is no way Lamar was more important to Baltimore last year than Christian McCaffrey was to San Fran. That guy is a machine.
@danielogeda1919 Pass Yds 15th Pass TDs 11th Rush Yds 1st Rush TDs 4th Total Yds 6th Total TDs 9th Rating 4th None of these numbers screams MVP to me. He got MVP because he is the QB of the #1 seed.
To be in the hall of fame you can’t tell the story of the league with out them. The only mention of Allen so far is he left 13 seconds on clock for Mahomes and hill
Brou's comp of Josh Allen as Phillip Rivers is spot on, and like Rivers hes at this point not a HoF QB, you win a lot of regular season games in a very weak division and you have no personal or team accolades to show. If regular season stats had meaning Vinny Testaverde, who when he retired was 4th in the all time passing yards, would be in the HoF
The thing is the Peyton-Trevor comp need more time because Peyton didn't win playoff games until his 6th yr or sm. In a few years, when trevor sucks, then he can be made fun of for that one. At least that's probably what Nick would say.
I don't pocket watch so I won't say what he deserves or don't deserve, but man it's gotta be frustrating watching the Cowboys mismanagement of contracts vs other teams. Ohter the Brandon Aiuyk, every other team signs their guys and moves on.
10:44 what I don’t get is regularly people discuss Allen and burrow as future HOFers and all that based on what we think they will do. But do the same talk with Mahomes and the things he has done as being the GOAT is blasphemous. Isn’t this the same thing
because burrow and allen have done almost nothing to deserve a HOF case awards wise, while Mahomes has been the greastest player ever up to this point in his career. If all three continue on the same trajectory, Mahomes should be in the goat convo while Allen and Burrow won't be HOFers.
@@nathanielrios7273 you dont get in the hall of fame for winning a super bowl. its about individual achievements. Allen is easily on track to make it with his numbers. If it was about winning championships then robert horry and julian edelman would be in the hall of fame.
I think Nick was generous calling Josh Allen 4th most accomplished of that stretch. He's really likable and looks like he can throw for miles. It feels/looks mean to be honest. It's honesty nonetheless.
My condolences. My Dad was a die hard Vikings fan his entire life and passed away in 2021 before they could win it. I almost wish a couple of Vikings players could have attended the funeral so they could let him and out family down one more time
The stray Philip Rivers non hall of fame slander is crazy. There’s no way you can keep out a to this day top 10 statistical and top 10 eye test qb just because he played for the chargers. (And was used to be one of the top 10 highest paid athletes in the world,because the chargers would have been nothing without him)
idk if im just a wuss but I love seeing these guys compliment each other, show works so much better when everyone is on the same team with opposite takes
Nick has strong arguments about Allen here, but he forgets that he's not a QB wins guy (and no one should be, tbh). Allen is a stud. He's a top three QB in the league and has been for quite sometime. Burrow's been to the SB, but he's also only had two great years. Lamar has two MVPs, but only recently has made a NFCCG. The other youngish QB's haven't sniffed a SB. I never believed Allen is better than Mahomes. Mahomes to be is the GOAT, full stop. But I don't think Nick can successfully argue this point with his worldview. Still the pundit, at least in my best mind, on T.V., though.
@@Obie_24 Purdy isn’t an elite player and while I Love Hurts, he lost to Mahomes as well, it just means he got to avoid him until the SB. Hurts also doesn’t have the consistence success yet.
two frustrating things here, Everyone gives winners the Jordan label but Jordan didn't win a lot early. Second Allen IS treated as if he's won before but he hasn't. He loses in round 2 and ends up the Super Bowl favorite in March some how.
@@mikep3813 And it was the year after the 13 second game (which was the week following the NFL's first ever perfect offensive performance in regular or post season by the Bills). When Gabe Davis looked poised to break out, Stefon still looked to be in his prime, and the core of the team was coming back and looking to improve in the draft. That season Buffalo had every right to be in that conversation and it wasn't out of place for them to be favorites. And in September they looked every bit the part, benching their starters with 3 or 4 score leads halfway through the 3rd quarter of the first 2 (or was it 2 of the first 3?). This is where the "September Champs" banner from Nick came from. Gave Davis never lived up to the potential (though I think a lot of that is Dorsey not knowing how to use him properly) and Stefon has been inconsistent and at times invisible since. That September was the last time the defense was remotely close to healthy (even to open the next or most recent season several key starters were injured or still recovering from injuries such as Von Miller and Tre White). I'm not sure if it's Josh himself, coaching (especially Dorsey) not knowing how to use the personnel, bad luck, or just the league figuring out how to play the Bills (probably some of each) but the Bills have neither looked like Super Bowl favorites or seriously talked as such since. They are usually in the conversation, and having only 1 loss in the last 40 games by more than 6 points kind of earns you that right to some extent, but fringe top 5 at best to open the season. This year many don't even have them winning the division, let alone the conference or the super bowl.
Im forever a bills fan, #17 is my guy, i always got his back but as good as josh is he will never get the accolades if he doesnt stop with the hero ball n just play smart football, take ur check downs n move the chains.....GO BILLS!!!
Nick bitching about the media affecting MVP voting and stuff like that is quite hysterical considering what he did to Purdy season. Also you don't have to win championships or mvps to get in the hall of fame.
i love when they bring up josh allen (probably at the request of nick) its never because allen said something ridiculous. its always someone else like a teammate (dawkins) or a gm or a ranking etc... josh allen sits quietly and doesnt do any talking he just plays ball and it bothers nick so much
Like they said, Vikings paid Cousins. Someone will be dumb enough to ruin their franchise on an average qb. Can find at least the same if not better with a mid first pick
Why do we keep having to hear about a mid tier qb contract? Hes one of the biggest reasons the cowboys choke every year and he expects a record deal? Nah
Nick yesterday, saying that there are four or five qbs, he'd rather have in a playoff game over Lamar, including Josh Allen. Nick today, saying that Lamar is better than Josh Allen because of his MVPs.
People forget that while the playoffs ultimately decide the champion, the regular season is a much larger sample size of a team's/player's ability. The playoffs are a great way to separate the greats to reveal who's superior, but that's not everything. I mean, it's kind of like a relief pitcher vs a starter. While it's up to the relief pitcher to close the game, the starter has to play well for seven innings as opposed to two, albeit two high pressure innings.
"He's not patrick mahomes!!" thats literally why he hasn't won the MVP. He is the only QB that's actively compared to Mahomes and hall of famers and all time greats. Every other QB we watch and just get to appreciate them so at the end of the year we go "wow that was an amazing season" then give them pro bowls all pros and mvps. Allen though ends up not being Jordan, Mahomes, Brady level (but still great hall of fame level) and then we go out and dog him for not being the GOAT. Then he wins nothing because the entire media and followers of the NFL are disappointed in him and call it a let down year. He's the only one compared to GOAT level standards and it blows my mind that no one actually watches him and just appreciates a hall of fame talent in front of our eyes unfolding just because he isn't as good as Mahomes. He'd have a ring if Nick and others like Nick didn't spend their career talking about how he isn't Mahomes and instead talked about how great he has been. This is the best Bills team in the history of the franchise by win percentage, he's blowing Kelly out of the water yet no one didn't give Kelly props. It's just wild. Especially when all he has had offensively is disappearing act Diggs in the playoffs and a head coach who can't coach in big games to save his life. Allen is basically a super hero in the playoffs having to do it alone. He's literally batman waiting for the rest of the justice league to show up and they never do.
I think they are misunderstanding what Nick is saying. $65 million, $10 million above Burrow, isn’t saying Dak is better, it is saying the market reset. Meaning when Burrow signs his next deal it will be $70 million
Concering your Josh Allen stance on hall of fame, Marino is a hall of fame QB and the reason the Dolphins didn't win a Superbowl because of his rookie season. What doesn't get talked about enough is winning attitude. I remember 4 years ago thinking Mahomes and Lamar were equal physical talents but when KC's defense let them get 10 or 14 points behind Mahomes looked like he loved the challenge. Lamar hung his head. Josh is like Mahomes except his influence only helped the offense. The Bills defense let him down. Caveat, two excitement caused fumbled snaps.
Dak has been in Dallas for 8 Years. He has 50 Million Dollars worth of major endorsements. He has to know what side of his toast is butter on. He ain't going nowhere!
With the news that Skip Bayless will be leaving FS1, the rest of the shows now have to fill the void of Cowboys takes once an hour minimum. What would we ever do if a single show could make it without mentioning Dallas?
As a Bills fan. Nick is more realistic about the Bills. I agree with a lot of his takes on him and buffalo. I do however,think he'll get into the hall fame. Lamar's mvp last yr shouldnt of went to him. Lamar's 1st was unanimous.
@brianogrady3185 super impressive, 3,200 yards, 19 TDs and 12 INTs. This was the year Rice had 22 TDs. It's a semi-meaningless QB award. Some are deserved, but a lot are not....case in point 1987.
@@mikep3813 Dude, QB numbers (unless you were Marino) were WAAAAAY different back then. Having 4k passing yards was super rare. And you just tiptoed past that whole “3 SB appearances” part…
@brianogrady3185 my point has nothing to do with the Allen Elway comparison. My point is MVPs are a QB only award and shouldn't be a measure of a QBs overall ability. They are often given to QBs even when undeserved even when historical seasons have been accomplished by skill position players. Think Kupps triple crown in 2021 or Hills 2,000 yard pace last year that was only derailed because of injury.
I know these contracts reflect the market, but imo, paying this amount of money to a football player is ridiculous. Pro football is too dangerous due to the likelihood of servere injury
This ridiculous QB market has to stop. They need to come in and mandate a percentage limit of the cap space that one position can take up. Some of these guys are taking 25% of their teams cap space, that’s unbelievable for literally ONE guy. Even for QB, the most important position in football by far, that is too much in my opinion.
Players get paid based on the market not how great they are, the QB market pays ridiculously high, and several teams are desperate for a solid QB. Dak is just good enough to demand a big contract he's not better than some of these other QBs but he is absolutely going to make more money than QBs who are better than him. 65M may sound crazy but I guarantee a QB-desperate team will absolutely pay that so fair or not Dak is getting his money lol.
The media has to constantly make it seem like Allen is worth the praise to distract from what the media did to Lamar during the draft process which is why he slid and Allen went number 7. Media was suggesting the Heisman winner coming from a pro-style offense in the ACC should convert to WR. At the same time, the media was hyping up the 59% completion percentage turnover machine from Wyoming who wasn't on the radar to start the draft process. Stuff like this reminds you how sports isn't just about talent and accomplishments.
Or is it because Allen is a special talent and one of the most fun players to watch in the NFL? Lamar fans are the most insecure fanbase in the NFL BY FAR.
Josh allen has been categorically better than Lamar for 4 years in a row lol. Like there isn't a stat in which you can compare them, and then in the post season he's been miles better.
Can we please take a break from discussing Dak signing a contract until something actually happens? Everytime Dak talks to the media we have to go over the same debate because of one comment
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Keyshawn is horrid!!
@@codystrom8708never cared for his takes
H@@codystrom8708ooh 7😅6
A Yoo this dak stuff makes me laugh.Daniel Jones is considered an overpaid bust still young tho
He has 1 less playoff win and 1 more road playoff win than dak 😂.He has the ravens/Lamar out of the playoffs and had cowboys/dak in the Super Bowl 😂 😅😂
What a joke.Stick to badminton
Also good for Jerry don’t pay him produce mf
And whichever team pays him next year will be a joke.He’s gonna look like Russ on the broncos minus the hardware pause
Thanks I’ll be here all week
Y’all please no more dak, how tf can y’all still be stretching this
They use to talk Cowboys when they were trash. They're actually interesting now even tho they still trash😂
Off season will do that to ya, nothing too notable to talk about, so sports hosts gotta stretch their time somehow. Same reason why they keep talking about Rodgers too
Right, dak hasn’t won more than 2 playoff games 💀
@@justinmedeiros7600 lmao fair but like I mean idk indulge me with the bad teams tell us how bad they’ll be or like if they have any shining gems, which teams will take the place of a playoff team from this past season
Agreed. I just wish there were other sports stories right now. If only a once every four year world wide sporting event was happening. Or is a future hall of fame baseball player suffered a season ending injury. That would give these shows other topics. Too bad we don’t live in that world and we need to talk about Dak for the 5th time this week.
Glad they are finally talking about Dak and the Cowboys.
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I haven't even heard of Dak all summer. This is the first time. Not even ESPN or FS1.,😑
Crazy how it's been almost two hours since I heard about the cowboys.
@@dominiquecortez8725you have to be trolling. Or you don’t watch this show
Nick is in his element when it comes to dissecting NFL/NBA contracts
exactly..nick kows his numbers
He’s a super smart dude his takes are funny but he is extremely smart
Ehh , he still gives the info in a disingenuous way. Like saying Trevor's getting 55 a year. He's not getting that and Nick knows it. Trevor's at 41-42 a year not 55😂😂😂
@@LKS-M9323it’s literally a 5yr/275m extension that averages out to 55m/yr, and with your technical, You’re still wrong, he will make 37.5m this year
@jojoCFP lol. He got an extension while still having 2 years left on his Rookie contract. So you avg the money out( remaining rookie contract and extension) over the span of the 7 years overall not 5.
Nick has a point about Allen being talked about too much based on what he can be rather than what he’s accomplished, where he hasn’t won anything, and the Jordan comparison is pretty ridiculous. In that sense, he is prematurely overhyped. But it’s a bit rich for Nick to say that when he does the exact same thing with Trevor and Caleb. You can’t complain about the Favre comparison with Allen when you’ve compared Lawrence to Peyton Manning.
Reality is often dissatisfying
Nick constantly contradicts himself when it comes to these kinds of arguments.
Hard to blame him for not winning anything when he was 13 seconds away from being in the SB and likely winning it. Allen put up all-time great playoff performances that year. Blame the HC that for some reason even after that 13 second debacle gets no blame. No one even talks about Sean Mcdermott.
@@zType2allen us avg at best
@@aaronclay4665 You are delusional.
how the show get longer but they posting less and shorter segments?
How about you just watch the show haha
@@Hydepop19called having a job during the day
not home when it’s on
Idk, but I can tell you idk.
FOR REALLL. No one has cable anymore and youtube is a good way to get exposure
This is sounding like Undisputed with Skip Bayless! There are 31 other teams! Got dang!
“He has won….nothing” 😭😭😭 Wildes is hilarious
Glad you caught that too. These guys are just dynamite. I don’t like when they get heated. But then they come right back with love.
2020 All Pro. Something Burrow has never done.
Bro I died😂😂😂
Neither did Dan Marino and he's in the hall of fame. So I don't get the argument Nick was making
@@jaryncovell2538 Dan Marino definitely won an mvp what
This is the first show all summer that I've heard anyone talk about the cowboys. Man it's refreshing.
9:00 as always Wildes is a national treasure.
Am i tripping, or is the fight between Justin Fields and Russell Wilson not being talked about
What kinda fight? Position battle or did they get into it? I'm assuming they didn't fist fight lol
2 mediocre QBs battling it out isnt very interesting imo
Didn’t Russell get hurt
Cause it’s not a fight lol
I saw that video they didn’t fight Russel Wilson wasn’t even in that pile he was standing in the back
Haven't started the video yet but I'm willing to bet my house Nick will bring up Allen passer rating lol (funny how he judges Allen based on passer rating but Purdy having the best PR last year is irrelevant in his case)
its so hilarious how shallow ur brain is
That's a false equivalent. Allen from a historical, statistical, and eye test context is what his rating says he is. It's not the same situation at all
because purdy has a small sample. he will come around if purdy can produce without elite weapons
Nick thinks he's smart but doesn't realize how often he contradicts himself.
@@user-gy3gu3ep3pno it’s not. This is what Nick does. He ignores the eye test massively and uses certain numbers to try to push his point.
If Nick is correct, Dak is not a 3 year 200 million QB. He didn't even look like an all-pro QB in the playoffs.
As a cowboys fan, dak is going to get that.
I have a question, would The Browns be better if they had Dak at Quarterback with that #1 defense?
Would Miami be better with Dak?
Would the Eagles be better with Dak?
Would the 49ers be better with Dak?
He has played good enough even though he hasn’t showed up in the playoffs the last few years against the 49ers.
None of those teams would be better with stat padder Dak beating up on bottom tier and losing to the good ones. Best garbage time stat padder in the NFL.
@@PD-qu8dqNo - those teams would be worse with Dak.
Saying Brett Favre without the rings and whatever is George is crazy talk. 🤦♂️
Do segments on which playoff teams will miss and which teams will rise. Would be way more entertaining and include everyone’s teams.
Josh carried 7 guys into the endzone and that is just one example of dozens why he the most fun to watch
I agree, love watching Josh Allen, most entertaining player in the league to me.
@@Wickwatcherits especially entertaining when he wins the game for the other team😂
its like people forget he was 13 seconds away from being in the SB and likely winning it... but I guess its Allen's fault his defensive coach told the defense to play sidelines and allow the Chiefs to get into FG range within 10 seconds.
@@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677 can't stand nick but to be fair he isn't saying Josh isn't fun I think josh is great but we can't attack nick for a take that isn't his, just attack him for downplaying josh ability and you will be correct lol
@@jaysonsmith7264winning 12 games a year. Your take is nonsense. Please list all of these games HE lost.
Do contract years even matter? Nobody ever honors them on either side.
This is an underrated comment and 100% correct. The money can always be moved around.
Not a fan, but in defense of Josh allen he doesn't have all of the off the field stuff brett did. Josh is a clean guy, vs a predator/criminal.
Yes he does!!
You know why he was awful vs Bengals at home in Buffalo blizzard?!?
Because he cheated on his longtime girlfriend, who he was engaged to, got a nurse pregnant, then paid that off so outside of Buffalo its hardly mentioned.. he then hooked up with Hailee Steinfeld
Stephon Diggs the only player who wanted to win title gets blamed an dismissed for caring an being too passionate about?! Wanting to win, sure he dropped that pass, allen also missed him wide open a cross, would have been easy 1st&goal.. but he short armed a pass under pressure
First game this past season vs Jets Allen had 3awful Ints Diggs called him out in front of team too no more of this same ol BS
@@aceassn716tf r u talking about he’s been dating hailee his whole career😂this is so embarrassing for u because u sounded all confident
And never had the on field success so 😂😂😂😂
I've been missing all these videos for the last month just focusing on myself but man it's good to be back!
Come on now it's the same stuff everyday guys...Dak, Rodgers, Purdy or team USA
Team USA been carrying the off season it's current events
I’m a Bills fan but those Patty numbers…SHEESH!!
Nick has started seriously cherrypicking stats to reinforce his arguments. Its getting pretty old.
@@tomas3695 Started? That’s been his shtick for as long as I’ve listened to him lol
started? that's been his shtick for as long as i've listened to him. lol.
Kind of like Bills fans always wanna throw in Allen's 2 yd TD runs for his TD totals... but always leave his fumbles out of his turnovers...🤔😅
Dak isn't worth £60 million. Only Mahomes and Lamar are worth that. Those two are Canton bound, first ballot.
And it's not that big of market for him a lot of teams have there guys
£? I believe you’re lost, my lad.
Even though Lamar is playing for argueably the best organization over the past 20 years and probably WILL NOT deliver a chip? Dude is straight up BAD in the playoffs...You know how you know he isn't a great QB, only a great athlete? Well, everyone saying he tried to THROW TOO MUCH IN THE PLAYOFF LOSS...You think people would ever say that about Mahomes...Stafford...Stroud...Burrow...No...bc they can all destroy you in the air, as the position is intended. Dak is actually a better QB than Lamar, overall, but also a playoff failure. How many 1st round wrs does Lamar have to ruin while we hear that he has no weapons??? Mahomes won a SB with nobody...Stafford made a 5th round receiver the greatest rookie receiver of ALL TIME...
Lamar and his 2-4 playoff record 😂
Your knowledge is as bad as your moms 🐱
From what I have heard there is one dude that doesn't care if he is paid the most and he has won back to back Super Bowls.
They haven’t talked about this topic, thank god they finally covered it today
Nick hates the “Quarterback wins” argument, except when it suits him to use it against Josh Allen.
@@oblivionpro69 he says he hates QB wins, but constantly brings up win/loss records when QBs go against each other, as if it’s basketball or something. The QBs don’t play against each other, they play against the opposing defenses lol
Him hating QB wins is actually news to me thought it was the other way around.
@@UniversoulSMOOV999nah he always makes fun of Wildes and Brou for bringing QB wins up…even though he always does himself. And will preface it each time with “I’m not a big QB wins guy”.
Quarterback wins is bad unless it’s about Trevor Lawrence
Saying Lamar is on a HOF trajectory and not Josh is absurd 🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️
Allen has nearly 4x as many playoff TDs and 2 less INTs than Lamar. These two QBs arent even comparable... but of course Lamar is praised for no other reason than because he won a popularity contest twice lol.
Plz add the First Things First youtube editors to the bud list. there are times were the clips cut out parts of takes or cut them short~ day 2
The over the top cowboys coverage is getting old. Take it to Skips time slot but just give it a break. The Cowboys are irrelevant at this point.
Don’t you like people to be getting their cowboys hopes up just to see Zeke at center in the playoffs?
Dak not being signed is a story in the NFL!like it or not, he was second on the MVP LIST!
@@TheCamojorel True lol. I love when they either go one and done or lose in the divisional every year 😂
They will never b irrelevant..as bad as i want us too it wont happen.. .
Cowboys is a check for anybody speaking on them
@@cali-guy9015Losing the first game in the playoffs knocks you out of the top 3 mvp race.. take away daks first read and he’s worse than trey lance. And brock was better than dak last season. Oh and brock beat dak again last season too
Nick is chronically correct about Josh Allen. It’s the take that keeps on giving.
He’s almost always wrong about Josh actually try again
He brings up josh allen passer rating(very old and antiquated stat developed in 1973 for qbs of that era) as if for the last 4 years he's been 4 different than patrick mahomes lol
@crustybs46 🤦♂️😅Then why you Allen fans always bring up his quarterback rating in his one good really playoff season?🤔😅
@@lakeozarkrei3767 world's biggest idiot here to add his 2 cents. Noone cares dude shut up lol
@@BBM716 no, he's been right. Josh Allen WAS overrated for years, he NEVER beat Mahomes in the playoffs, and he IS a rollercoaster. He HASN'T accomplished anything and currently ISN'T a HOF player, even though he has the raw talent to be.
Dak is almost getting as much coverage as the Lakers 2nd round pick.
Free agency is not about being great, elite, etc. it’s about being FREE. Teams who are in desperate need of a QB will overpay for Dak. Raiders are going to hand him that much money just to get him there. Dak knows that in FA, he’d have a large market. I think he’s average, but he’s going to be free so it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks.
Skip bayless down fall was talking about the same 3 topics EVERYDAY, it becomes boring. Dak talk is heading in that direction
Yesss please more segments about dak’s contract🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Why does Nick completely discount Josh's running game in critiquing him? That's like saying we don't count RBs receptions because they're supposed to run the ball.
because hes white
Allen has the most TDs in NFL HISTORY in his 1st 6 years. His TD / INT ratio is way ahead of Elway, Farve, Marino and Manning
How many rings doe 🤔 How many MVP's ??? Has he ever been a number 1 seed has he ever led the NFL in touchdown passes ??
@@GalleryBoy Touchdowns are touchdowns, who cares if they’re passing or rushing
So what? Hardware is what really matters
@@danielogeda1919MVPs do not matter in the slightest. Almost as much of a joke as the pro bowl. There is no way Lamar was more important to Baltimore last year than Christian McCaffrey was to San Fran. That guy is a machine.
@danielogeda1919
Pass Yds 15th
Pass TDs 11th
Rush Yds 1st
Rush TDs 4th
Total Yds 6th
Total TDs 9th
Rating 4th
None of these numbers screams MVP to me. He got MVP because he is the QB of the #1 seed.
13:49 😂😂 I love Wildes
Dak should lay off negotiations and wait till hes a free agent to go to another franchise who draft and build better teams than Dallas
55 million isn’t enough when you underperform drastically when you need too is crazy work🤣🤣🤣
Kirk Cousins ❓
@@naklovesjesus3204Dak and you know it
@@naklovesjesus3204 different colors of QBs different expectations
@@15SilverSurfer15nah Dak just plays for the biggest franchise in sports not named the Lakers and Yankees so yes expectations are big
@@naklovesjesus3204 Both can be overpaid; just because 1 is overpaid doesn't mean 2 should be overpaid as well.
To be in the hall of fame you can’t tell the story of the league with out them. The only mention of Allen so far is he left 13 seconds on clock for Mahomes and hill
What should change more?
Josh Allen's play style
Nick Wright's take style
Well.... Nick will define around a lot longer with the way Allen plays 👍
It’s ridiculous paying these QBs so much money for nothing.
Hey I love that song
Brou's comp of Josh Allen as Phillip Rivers is spot on, and like Rivers hes at this point not a HoF QB, you win a lot of regular season games in a very weak division and you have no personal or team accolades to show. If regular season stats had meaning Vinny Testaverde, who when he retired was 4th in the all time passing yards, would be in the HoF
Josh allen has been a lot better from an epa/play standpoint than rivers has in the playoffs so it's not really a good comparison.
I wish they would bring up how nick always compares Trevor to Peyton manning when brou does the allen favre comp.
The thing is the Peyton-Trevor comp need more time because Peyton didn't win playoff games until his 6th yr or sm. In a few years, when trevor sucks, then he can be made fun of for that one. At least that's probably what Nick would say.
@nathanielrios7273 but I can throw back the same thing he does.... yh he's manning without the 5 mvps 2 super bowls and numerous other achievements.
I don't pocket watch so I won't say what he deserves or don't deserve, but man it's gotta be frustrating watching the Cowboys mismanagement of contracts vs other teams. Ohter the Brandon Aiuyk, every other team signs their guys and moves on.
Comparing Josh Allen to Jeff George is wild
10:44 what I don’t get is regularly people discuss Allen and burrow as future HOFers and all that based on what we think they will do.
But do the same talk with Mahomes and the things he has done as being the GOAT is blasphemous.
Isn’t this the same thing
because burrow and allen have done almost nothing to deserve a HOF case awards wise, while Mahomes has been the greastest player ever up to this point in his career. If all three continue on the same trajectory, Mahomes should be in the goat convo while Allen and Burrow won't be HOFers.
@@nathanielrios7273 you dont get in the hall of fame for winning a super bowl. its about individual achievements. Allen is easily on track to make it with his numbers. If it was about winning championships then robert horry and julian edelman would be in the hall of fame.
Nicks graphic murdered me🤣🤣🤣
Talk more about Stroud he's a lot more interesting
As a cowboys fan. I never tire of this show's coverage of the team❤️
I think Nick was generous calling Josh Allen 4th most accomplished of that stretch. He's really likable and looks like he can throw for miles. It feels/looks mean to be honest. It's honesty nonetheless.
I am a Bills fan since 1964. The universe must make them win a super bowl just once before i die.
I'm a 45 year Chiefs fan... and I like giving Bills fans a hard time but you guys definitely deserve one... that city would go nuts👍
My condolences. My Dad was a die hard Vikings fan his entire life and passed away in 2021 before they could win it. I almost wish a couple of Vikings players could have attended the funeral so they could let him and out family down one more time
The stray Philip Rivers non hall of fame slander is crazy. There’s no way you can keep out a to this day top 10 statistical and top 10 eye test qb just because he played for the chargers. (And was used to be one of the top 10 highest paid athletes in the world,because the chargers would have been nothing without him)
idk if im just a wuss but I love seeing these guys compliment each other, show works so much better when everyone is on the same team with opposite takes
Nick has strong arguments about Allen here, but he forgets that he's not a QB wins guy (and no one should be, tbh). Allen is a stud. He's a top three QB in the league and has been for quite sometime. Burrow's been to the SB, but he's also only had two great years. Lamar has two MVPs, but only recently has made a NFCCG. The other youngish QB's haven't sniffed a SB.
I never believed Allen is better than Mahomes. Mahomes to be is the GOAT, full stop. But I don't think Nick can successfully argue this point with his worldview. Still the pundit, at least in my best mind, on T.V., though.
I think burrow is a stud as a bills fan. His problem is staying healthy.
Hurts & Purdy are both younger & made it to a SB.
@@Obie_24 Purdy isn’t an elite player and while I Love Hurts, he lost to Mahomes as well, it just means he got to avoid him until the SB. Hurts also doesn’t have the consistence success yet.
@@Obie_24point being?
two frustrating things here, Everyone gives winners the Jordan label but Jordan didn't win a lot early. Second Allen IS treated as if he's won before but he hasn't. He loses in round 2 and ends up the Super Bowl favorite in March some how.
Bills are SB favorites? News to me...
They have been SB favorites ONE time. Give it a rest
@@mikep3813 And it was the year after the 13 second game (which was the week following the NFL's first ever perfect offensive performance in regular or post season by the Bills). When Gabe Davis looked poised to break out, Stefon still looked to be in his prime, and the core of the team was coming back and looking to improve in the draft. That season Buffalo had every right to be in that conversation and it wasn't out of place for them to be favorites. And in September they looked every bit the part, benching their starters with 3 or 4 score leads halfway through the 3rd quarter of the first 2 (or was it 2 of the first 3?). This is where the "September Champs" banner from Nick came from.
Gave Davis never lived up to the potential (though I think a lot of that is Dorsey not knowing how to use him properly) and Stefon has been inconsistent and at times invisible since. That September was the last time the defense was remotely close to healthy (even to open the next or most recent season several key starters were injured or still recovering from injuries such as Von Miller and Tre White).
I'm not sure if it's Josh himself, coaching (especially Dorsey) not knowing how to use the personnel, bad luck, or just the league figuring out how to play the Bills (probably some of each) but the Bills have neither looked like Super Bowl favorites or seriously talked as such since. They are usually in the conversation, and having only 1 loss in the last 40 games by more than 6 points kind of earns you that right to some extent, but fringe top 5 at best to open the season. This year many don't even have them winning the division, let alone the conference or the super bowl.
I clicked For Josh Allen, I refuse to watch another Cowboys topic, Nick even knows we’re tired of hearing his take
Im forever a bills fan, #17 is my guy, i always got his back but as good as josh is he will never get the accolades if he doesnt stop with the hero ball n just play smart football, take ur check downs n move the chains.....GO BILLS!!!
FINALLY! A logical Bills fan!
Nick bitching about the media affecting MVP voting and stuff like that is quite hysterical considering what he did to Purdy season. Also you don't have to win championships or mvps to get in the hall of fame.
i love when they bring up josh allen (probably at the request of nick) its never because allen said something ridiculous. its always someone else like a teammate (dawkins) or a gm or a ranking etc... josh allen sits quietly and doesnt do any talking he just plays ball and it bothers nick so much
I'd rather see these guys talk about coke vs pepsi than continuing to talk aboit Dak
Turning into First Take with all the Cowboys and Lakers talk.
I was tired of the Lamar conversations with his contract and I am tired of the Dak conversations.. Sheesh
Do they even think about the Dashaun Watson sweepstakes when he was a free agent didn't he get some ridiculous guarantee contract?
@@KareemDaRula wasn’t even a free agent lol. The Browns traded for him and just gave him that insane extension immediately.
Cousins should be in the HOF of contract negotiations 🙏🏽
“He has won….nothing…but he’s pretty awesome.”
😂🤣😂
Wildes madd funny😂😂
the bills have won nothing
No way any team is dumb enough to give Dak 60 mill.. there’s no way
You’d be surprised
Like they said, Vikings paid Cousins. Someone will be dumb enough to ruin their franchise on an average qb. Can find at least the same if not better with a mid first pick
The market is the market 🤷🏻♂️ Nick was spitting straight facts.
Argue with a wall Phillip rivers is a hall of famer🤣
Stop talking Dak for the love of all that is holy
Why do we keep having to hear about a mid tier qb contract? Hes one of the biggest reasons the cowboys choke every year and he expects a record deal? Nah
Nick yesterday, saying that there are four or five qbs, he'd rather have in a playoff game over Lamar, including Josh Allen.
Nick today, saying that Lamar is better than Josh Allen because of his MVPs.
Who's this Dak guy? Never heard of him before.
People forget that while the playoffs ultimately decide the champion, the regular season is a much larger sample size of a team's/player's ability. The playoffs are a great way to separate the greats to reveal who's superior, but that's not everything. I mean, it's kind of like a relief pitcher vs a starter. While it's up to the relief pitcher to close the game, the starter has to play well for seven innings as opposed to two, albeit two high pressure innings.
Like we shouldn’t use the finals mvp to actually Jaylen brown is undisputed best player in Boston
@@timmartin2417 Tell that to Steph Curry.
@@PickanPop ? We talking 15 or the Durant years lol
@@timmartin2417 Either, he won as many with Durant as without.
How are we still talking about Dak with no news on the matter? This is like the 15th segment on him and nothing has changed since the first.
"He's not patrick mahomes!!" thats literally why he hasn't won the MVP. He is the only QB that's actively compared to Mahomes and hall of famers and all time greats. Every other QB we watch and just get to appreciate them so at the end of the year we go "wow that was an amazing season" then give them pro bowls all pros and mvps. Allen though ends up not being Jordan, Mahomes, Brady level (but still great hall of fame level) and then we go out and dog him for not being the GOAT. Then he wins nothing because the entire media and followers of the NFL are disappointed in him and call it a let down year. He's the only one compared to GOAT level standards and it blows my mind that no one actually watches him and just appreciates a hall of fame talent in front of our eyes unfolding just because he isn't as good as Mahomes. He'd have a ring if Nick and others like Nick didn't spend their career talking about how he isn't Mahomes and instead talked about how great he has been. This is the best Bills team in the history of the franchise by win percentage, he's blowing Kelly out of the water yet no one didn't give Kelly props. It's just wild. Especially when all he has had offensively is disappearing act Diggs in the playoffs and a head coach who can't coach in big games to save his life. Allen is basically a super hero in the playoffs having to do it alone. He's literally batman waiting for the rest of the justice league to show up and they never do.
I think they are misunderstanding what Nick is saying. $65 million, $10 million above Burrow, isn’t saying Dak is better, it is saying the market reset. Meaning when Burrow signs his next deal it will be $70 million
And it won’t be the Cowboys. It will be the Rams
And with the taxes in any other state he might go to...he will be making less. Also he loses the star on the helmet. Dak would be smart to stay.
"He has won...........noth-ing!" Wilds is wild
Concering your Josh Allen stance on hall of fame, Marino is a hall of fame QB and the reason the Dolphins didn't win a Superbowl because of his rookie season.
What doesn't get talked about enough is winning attitude. I remember 4 years ago thinking Mahomes and Lamar were equal physical talents but when KC's defense let them get 10 or 14 points behind Mahomes looked like he loved the challenge. Lamar hung his head. Josh is like Mahomes except his influence only helped the offense. The Bills defense let him down. Caveat, two excitement caused fumbled snaps.
Dak has been in Dallas for 8 Years. He has 50 Million Dollars worth of major endorsements. He has to know what side of his toast is butter on. He ain't going nowhere!
With the news that Skip Bayless will be leaving FS1, the rest of the shows now have to fill the void of Cowboys takes once an hour minimum. What would we ever do if a single show could make it without mentioning Dallas?
As a Bills fan. Nick is more realistic about the Bills. I agree with a lot of his takes on him and buffalo. I do however,think he'll get into the hall fame. Lamar's mvp last yr shouldnt of went to him. Lamar's 1st was unanimous.
wouldn't the appropriate comparison for Allen be the early Elway years?
@@gulicks4 nah…in Elway’s first 6 seasons he had a MVP and carried the Broncos to 3 SB appearances.
@brianogrady3185 super impressive, 3,200 yards, 19 TDs and 12 INTs. This was the year Rice had 22 TDs. It's a semi-meaningless QB award. Some are deserved, but a lot are not....case in point 1987.
@@mikep3813 Dude, QB numbers (unless you were Marino) were WAAAAAY different back then. Having 4k passing yards was super rare. And you just tiptoed past that whole “3 SB appearances” part…
@brianogrady3185 my point has nothing to do with the Allen Elway comparison. My point is MVPs are a QB only award and shouldn't be a measure of a QBs overall ability. They are often given to QBs even when undeserved even when historical seasons have been accomplished by skill position players. Think Kupps triple crown in 2021 or Hills 2,000 yard pace last year that was only derailed because of injury.
When wiles said “ and he has won…. Nothing”
Oh that took me out 😂😂😂😂😂
I know these contracts reflect the market, but imo, paying this amount of money to a football player is ridiculous. Pro football is too dangerous due to the likelihood of servere injury
Man lol Nick should just be Dak’s agent at this point
This ridiculous QB market has to stop. They need to come in and mandate a percentage limit of the cap space that one position can take up. Some of these guys are taking 25% of their teams cap space, that’s unbelievable for literally ONE guy. Even for QB, the most important position in football by far, that is too much in my opinion.
Please do a five hour segment on Mahomes being 4th on the top 100 I’m here for nick wright ripping into it 😂😂
“i called it.” *pats himself on the back* - Nick (every show)
But Dak said it’s not about the money? So why can’t he sign a team friendly deal?
Can yall get through a segment and pat yourselves on the back when the cameras aren’t on lol
Pay Dak and let Cedee go..then we can all remember who Dak really is.
I could see Dak in Seattle
Cowboys fan here, talk about them less please. Also Nick is out of his mind on that contract
No the market is the market, if Jerry keeps waiting Dak may get 70M per year
Players get paid based on the market not how great they are, the QB market pays ridiculously high, and several teams are desperate for a solid QB. Dak is just good enough to demand a big contract he's not better than some of these other QBs but he is absolutely going to make more money than QBs who are better than him. 65M may sound crazy but I guarantee a QB-desperate team will absolutely pay that so fair or not Dak is getting his money lol.
Comparison is the killer of joy an fun js
Nick said jets but meant redskins
Still talking Dak for years..... Give up on this guy.....
The media has to constantly make it seem like Allen is worth the praise to distract from what the media did to Lamar during the draft process which is why he slid and Allen went number 7. Media was suggesting the Heisman winner coming from a pro-style offense in the ACC should convert to WR. At the same time, the media was hyping up the 59% completion percentage turnover machine from Wyoming who wasn't on the radar to start the draft process. Stuff like this reminds you how sports isn't just about talent and accomplishments.
Or is it because Allen is a special talent and one of the most fun players to watch in the NFL? Lamar fans are the most insecure fanbase in the NFL BY FAR.
Josh Allen is better than Lamar tho lol
Josh allen has been categorically better than Lamar for 4 years in a row lol. Like there isn't a stat in which you can compare them, and then in the post season he's been miles better.
Allen's own teammates cry about him being "disrespected." Don't talk about insecure.
Also 2 MVPs>>>>>>>>0
Can we please take a break from discussing Dak signing a contract until something actually happens? Everytime Dak talks to the media we have to go over the same debate because of one comment