ATTACK, MELEYS! 🔥💔 House of The Dragon 2x4 "THE RED DRAGON AND THE GOLD" Reaction & Review
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This episode basically proves that Sunfyre is the only thing in Aegon's life that genuinely loves him.
Damn 😭😭
Alicent loves him. When he asked her if he loved her and she answered with "you imbicile" that was clearly her calling him an idiot for even thinking that she might not love him. Despite that though I don't think she managed to make him feel loved at all so he probably did feel like Sunfire and maybe his kids were the only ones who loved him.
@@AgonizingDemiseno she doesn’t, that’s not love. It’s warped. It’s the same kind of love Otto had for her, it’s tainted.
@@marleymarsss I think it is genuine though, tainted as it is. I truly think Alicent loves her children which imo is why she is so emotionally conflicted and frustrated with how they act. Yeah, she sucks at showing it and there must have been major problems in how they were raised but I don't think for a moment she doesn't genuinely love them. but maybe our definitions for the word genuine just aren't the same.
Sunfyre is such a good boi
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The way Synfyre nuzzles Aegon in excitement like a dog ready for a walk, he's such a good boi 🥹
Rhaenys and Meleys are both about that action! RIP to 2 legends!
RIP to the 🐐 of House Targaryan 😭😭🫶🏼
Aegon is the best character this season
He’s not my favorite character but his story is tragic which makes him really interesting. Forced to be king, even at first he didn’t want to be. Tried to do best with the small folks but keeps getting manipulated by the council. Then had his child murdered. Also, the only being that loves him is Sunfrye, his dragon- no real family support whatsoever.
The queen who never was lived fearlessly and died amidst fire and blood
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One thing I respect about Cole is that he really came from the bottom and is an effective general (his plan with Erryke almost worked, his plan with Castle did work, he trained Aemon another beast...)
He is annoyingly successful and does great in a war setting. Him being super fucked and a terrible person makes it feel so good to hate him because he's so good otherwise.
KINGMAKER 💚💚
i mean he hardly came from the bottom, he is common-born but was still raised in a castle, as his father was steward, and likely trained alongside the Dondarrions.
@@vargr2089 That is still the bottom considering how high the royal borns are.
@@rohanshende4338 bottom would be the smallfolk, who recieve no education or training.
It’s actually interesting how Aegon speaks to Sunfyre in English, and it shows how close their bond is. In season one, they said he had “complete mastery” over Sunfyre. Which means he has completely bonded with him without using Valyrian, that’s very impressive. And canonically, they have the closest bond between any dragon and rider in asoiaf. It’s very cute
I actually forgot that line about Aegon's relationship with Sunfyre. I honestly wish they would have included a bit more of that. They never really showed them together. So I'd forgotten and was thinking more that Aegon had less control because he wasn't using High Valyrian. So that detail adds a bit more perspective, I think. Would've been nice to see a bit more.
@@TheCuriousCaseofJace It really does suck that they didn’t show us more of their bond, and that the first time we see him in his full glory is right before he gets mangled. And for him having less control, I think it’s because he was extremely drunk. He drank that entire flagon of wine and went headfirst into battle hotheaded. Sunfyre had his back, but maybe they could’ve done some real damage to Meleys if Aegon was sober
@@TheCuriousCaseofJace I think they intended to show at that table scene that Aegon is only able to speak broken High Valyrian while Aemond is fluent in it because Aegon never speaks High Valyrian with anyone or Sunfyre. But I agree it would have been better to simply show more of their relationship instead of depending on the audience guessing this indirectly for weak hints.
@@moreganwilliams1174 Aegon and Sunfyre are very young with no fighting experience. He is still really disadvantaged against the bigger and faster Meleys (that is apparently experienced even though they didn't indicate this).
@@TheCuriousCaseofJace If they showed more of them together Aegon/Sunfyre would've quickly became the favorites of the show overshadowing Rhaenyra and they wouldn't want that
Rhaenys leaving would be like the lord leaving his castle, she was sent to protect that castle, and she died trying ❤
Exactly. I also think as a dragon rider if she "cut and ran away" it would do more harm then good to Rhaenyra's cause, she already has support wavering after the death of Jaeharys I think many would lose heart in fighting for her if Rheynis abandoned the fight for her queen.
The castle was lost anyway. With Aegon down leaving is a net gain for her side. Losing the blacks biggest dragon PLUS the castle makes it a net loss for the blacks instead
@@MrFredstt I disagree the castle was lost once Meleys landed on it and Cristons forces breached the walls. I will also agree with the comment above that it looks like Rhaenyra would allow her counsel’s castle to fall, how can she protect the rest of the realm. This is what happens when dragons go to war. This was a lesson for BOTH sides
The fact that Meleys hurts Sunfire and take down Vhagar without ask for a dracarys show how much experience they both got
Vhagar let go of Meleys to stick the landing. Rhaenys and Meleys are great but they never stood a chance against Vhagar by themselves. They'd probably f up most other dragons though!
meleys was throwing flames during the death spiral
Meleys was hardly a challenge for the monstrous vhagar & Aemond.
Sunfyre's fire had almost no effect on meleys, but vhagars fire did. Vhagars fire
was hotter than sunfyre's flames, he
Effective on meleys. You can see where Rhaenys has sut all over her body from vhagars flames.
@@remyrimmm3123they actually had pretty decent chances taking on vaghar from what the book states. It was like an 65/35 odds.
@@JinW0 The book describes the fight significantly differently than happened in the show and even then it says she ‘’might have stood a chance’’. Not really convincing is it
Official quote from book “princess rhenyes made no attempt to flee, with a glad cry and a crack of her whip she turned mayles towards the foe. The daughter of prince aemon and lady Jocelyn lived fearless and died among fire and blood.”
She put her WHAT on 😂 nah finish that sentence 💀
That Strap on crazy 😂
She is on a mission to take out Cole and his army! You don't run from a fight just because the enemy is bigger than you, warriors understand this, and so do our Service Men in War... Seems that these days, everyone is so pampered and out of touch with reality!😅
To make matters more heartbreaking, Vhagar used to be Baelon the Brave's dragon, and Meleys was Alyssa Targaryen's dragon. Baelon and Alyssa were Viserys and Daemon's parents. It says in the book that Baelon and Alyssa were either on their dragons flying together or in bed.
The way dragons fight other dragons is that they lock together in a deathspiral like some birds of pray do so it is hard to use any other tactic since the riders dont have full control over their dragons
Ahhh this makes so much sense! Thank you for the insight 🙏🏼
Rhaenys attacked by going upside down. Meleys got some claws in and took Vaghar to the ground with the spiral.
Rhaenys and Meleys have Valyrian steel balls to take face both of them alone. And she destroyed Sunfyre and dropped Vhagar big ass lol they are amazing. My queens 🤧❤️ heartbreaking episode
The blood supposedly on Daemons hand when he wakes up might be Red Sapp from the weirdwood tress. There was a scene in the previous episode that he was sleepwalking and was standing in front of the tree.
Vhagar sneak attacks at that size is just ridiculous atp lol no way Visenya would ever use her that way
I agree I never understood that. You could argue before when she was hidden in the clouds against Lucerys or perhaps cause she has the most battle experience being the oldest. I just want to see diff death of dragon vs dragon
I read a comment on another video that compared Vhegar to a python. She just shoots out, grabs her victim, and crushes them. I doubt that was the writers intention, but I could see that. Vhegar is kinda slow, so she kinda needs to wait for that perfect strike. Who knows, though.
There's a reason why military dudes use smoke grenades. It drastically reduces the enemy's ability to see. There was a LOT of smoke from all the fires the dragon breath causes. It really does limit visibility by a lot.
Visenya would never use common sense? Vhagar was not under the influence of Aemond when she ambushed Arrax. Therefore, Vhagar either learnt this from his previous battle rider or learnt it right then and there. I'm inclined to believe she learnt it from Visenya. Plus, it is more important for Aemond to utilise this technique because Vhagar has gotten so big by the time he rides her.
When Visenya had Vhagar, Vhagar was the size of Sunfyre
As much as we all hate Criston, I like how these past two episodes have shown his competence when it comes to warfare. He sucks at politics, subterfuge, and diplomacy, but he really shines when it comes to military strategy. I especially like the moment where, despite his annoyance at the King showing up, he immediately manages to pivot it into an inspiring speech for his troops.
Aemond and Vheagar did a sneak attack because they cut off Meleys’ escape. To go back to Dragonstone she would have had to go past the castle and across the bay. They waited and sprung the trap. It was tactical. He may not be as skilled a rider as Rhaenys but he is very capable and experienced.
All hail Sunfyre the first and only bilingual dragon in Westeros
Vhagar is such a beautiful old girl, it’s really sad because Vhagar and Meleys used to be super close. They fought in the war together :(
Technically, the Battle of Rook's Rest is a Pyrrhic Victory for both sides (a draw) They both inflict heavy damages on each other but also lose a lot. The Greens are so far ahead in that they are the ones making moves, employing strategy and tactics like setting a trap for the Blacks (which was the plan all along with Rook's Rest) The Blacks are behind because of waiting too long. Then again, this is early days of the Dance of Dragons. Things should pick up eventually and it becomes hard to know which side is winning. Their respective allies have yet to come into the fray. Barartheon, Lannister & Hightower armies for the Greens and the North and the Vale for the Blacks. Daemon is yet to unify the Riverlords for the Blacks.
I just realized how scary as all hell a dragon would actually be IRL. I was scuba diving in Florida and a big ass shark came up to me, scared the crap out of me. Then you see how deadly things like lions, tigers, bears, sharks are and how easily they can mess us up. So needless to say people crap themselves if an angry animal comes at them. Now with that in mind imagine a giant dragon that can breathe fire flying towards you. Yup, I'd crap myself and run crying to my mom and I'm a full grown dude 😂 Seeing that on the battlefield would be absolute heart dropping. You'd feel your heart in your balls due to how low that sinking feeling feels.
Everyone's gangsta until the Harrenhallucinations start.
"Those are my feet" had me in clutches Dee lmao
"where the hell is Rhaenerya" is exactly what Corlys also says. It's subtle but Corlys always had his doubts on joining the Black's. It's only after the Rhaenys convinces him and that she's gone things might get interesting regarding his loyalty.
Not too sure the Kings guard were drunk, just more or less incompetent..
Good idea to check a map of Westeros, particularly one focusing on The Crownlands where a lot of the fighting happens.
Heh, yeah. If you think Rook's Rest is close to Harrenhal you haven't paid much attention; even earlier Gwayne literally points out that Harrenhal is in the other direction.
I mean, if you consider the entirety of Westeros then Rook's Rest is fairly close to Harrenhal, but only by virtue of being in the Crownlands/Riverlands area. Rook's Rest is even a bit closer to King's Landing than it is to Harrenhal!
SHE PUT THE STRAPP ONN?!!!I'm dead
Cab someone help me understand what experience these riders have? It says Rheanys and Meleys have been to battle, but what battle have she been in? Have they not been in a time of peace? The only experienced riders that the show has shown us (S1) is Daemon/Caraxes (Crabman), Laenor/Seasmoke (Crabman), Aemond/Vhagar (Arrax). And from these 3, only Aemond has fought another dragon. What experience does Rheanyra have over Jace? They are both inexperienced. Even Baela has more experience than them.
Plan T(ea)
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Am I the only one who likes aegon I think his character is so complex tragic and misguided he even hire two clown to have companion iI also think you need brain to really appreciate team green sorry for my bad English
no- i never expected aegon to be a character i liked or felt sympathy for (especially when he does crimes), but all of his issues have understandable sources (mostly lack of guidance/parenting + privilege + pressure) and he’s become one of the most interesting and enjoyable characters of the series for me.
he went from walking to his coronation with tear tracks down his face, to triumphantly waving a sword around happy because he’s being shown love/admiration that he never got from his parents.
he went from as a teen saying he just wouldn’t challenge rhaenyra (as in seeing her as legitimate), to an adult who calls his sister the queen of bastards and abandons his own in child fighting rings.
with a character like joffrey boratheon, u never get the sense that the character could have been redeemed at any point. but with aegon, one rly has to wonder how he would have turned out if he had better guidance/support and less pressure when he was younger.
@@beezyqueen I think he is a bit different from what you describe.
12 year old Aegon didn't want to challenge Rheanyra, not because he thought she was legitimate, but because he didn't care for the throne. That was the only reason. Or atleast the main reason.
Aegon is currently 19, still a teenager.
Aegon never abandoned his child in the fighting pit. He has no idea his child is there, he has no idea he even has a bastard. The show never said he knew this.
I think its obvious that unknowingly having bastards and knowingly having bastards that you try to pass on as legitimate are different things.
Meleys did damaged Vhagar. Vhagar is big but very slow.
“Christina Cole” lol 😅
So good, which the battle was more of a battle episode with the men on the ground but with just as much dragon scenes. The princess went out like a honorable soldier
The reason Rhanys went alone was because they didn't know The greens would field a dragon, she planned to face armies and not dragons. Also, once rhanys got there,she couldn't run, it would be cowardice from the blacks and they would be deserting theor ally ( rook's rest)
I think in the book all 3 dragons take the fight to the ground where Vhegar manages to stomp them both.
27:03 I'm sorry but it would have made no sense for the Blacks to send multiple dragons. They didn't know that Criston had a dragon there, it was a trap. They thought Vhagar was in Kings Landing. If they send all their dragons to Rooks Rest they leave Dragonstone vulnerable.
Meleys is not faster than Vhagar. A sparrow can't fly faster than a hawk. When it comes to straight line speed size matters. Meleys is likely more maneuverable, but Rheanys knew she couldn't get away from Vhagar because she would run her down and attack from behind. What she should have done is first not fly directly over the only object Vhagar could ambush her from and zig-zagged her way to places she could hide, but that would have been very difficult. She knew she couldn't go back to Dragonstone because Aemond would have followed her there and destroyed her anyway and the castle.
THE ONLY HE COULD GET A QUEEN ❤ WAS BY SNEAKING HER he is too big to be sneaking somebody ❤ she fought brave she left once she wasn’t gonna run again
sunfyre was the only dragon that could understand no-valeryan language due to Aegon's lack of valeryan knowlege :(((( a bilingual dragon TT
Great reaction, you two beautiful women. 😍. Why do they keep sending one dragon against Vhagare?
Hey Meesh and Dee, "Happy Tuesday".This was a great episode with so much going on. Daemon is constantly hallucinating seeing those of the past that haunts him as he's trying to gather soldiers from Harrenhal. Alicent still processing with what happened with her reunion with Rhaenyra as well did Viserys choose Aegon as heir to the stone. Is asking the Maester for some tea in which she takes in which appears she's pregnant by the way she touch her stomach. In which I feel Larys Strong knows during their conversation.
Aegon does not like that he's not being respected. As Aemond and Cole make decisions behind his back. You can see the tension between Aegon and Aemond as Aemond wants to get back at Aegon for embarrassing him at the brothel. As well Alicent showing her disappointment in him with Aegon killing the Ratcatchers and removing his father as Hand. In which pushes Aegon to take part in the battlefield.
Cole took down Duskendale, Rosby, and Darkyln. Forcing some men of Darkyln to side with the Greens as Cole killed Lord Darkyln. With his hand arriving at Dragonstone in which forces Rhaenys to go into the battle knowing that Rhaenyra is important to the throne as she's expandable. The battle with Dragons so well done. Damn Aemond really tried to take Aegon out along with Rhaenys lol. RIP to Rhaenys who died on the battlefield. I'm looking forward episode 5. But anyway I hope you two have a wonderful day. Stay safe, take care and stay amazing
Hey Rob!! Ugh such a good episode. RIP to our favorite Targaryan 🕊️
@@MeeshDeeReacts She will be missed. Rhaenyra just lost the only support besides her kids and Daemon.
@@bigrob1987 Corlys has left the chat..
I think the reason Rhaenys didn't leave the fight was because after seeing Aemond needlessly torch Aegon she probably thought that she needed to take him out right then and there because if he would do that then there is no telling what else he would do and rooks rest is only a short flight to Dragonstone and also Driftmark so that probably also went into her thought process. Regardless she went out like a boss. R.I.P
best episode ❤
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Been waiting for this. Thank you! This episode ruined me.
Thanks for watching along!! This ep ruined us too 😭🕊️🤍
Next will jace😂
Dragon Riders on Team Black currently. Rhaenyra Jace Baela and Daemon. Which other dragon were they supposed to send?😅
Sunfyre is beautiful 😍
I am heartbroken to see the dragons killing each other over an old piece of scrap metal.
Rhaenys was suicidal, once she saw Vhagar she should've left, tactical retreat, they would have not followed to Dragonstone
battle plan explanation:
cole moved on rooks rest because rhaenyra doesnt have an actual standing army. shes basically trapped on dragon stone with just dragons and most dont even have riders. which is why she requires so much diplomacy before she can just go to war. with coles previous attacks on her smaller house supporters he's set a precedent that he's fighting without a dragon all while coming up with a plan with aemond behind the aegons back. so hearing that cole is moving on rooks rest and because rhaenyra doesnt have an army her only choice is to send a dragon. but she only has 4 dragons available for any purpose. technically only 3 because its too dangerous to put her at risk. she doesnt want to loose her son either so shes not gonna send him into any battles, and baelas dragon is probably the smallest rideable dragon alive. so only rhaenys is available for actual combat against people shooting arrows at her. even if aemond wasnt there, all it takes is one arrow to hit her. also she could only send rhaenys because baela and moondancer would barely scratch vhagar, even during a 2v1 in fact she'd probably just get in rhaenys' way. so thats why things played out how you saw them. the reason rhaenys came back was because 1. she had to protect rooks rest the reason she came. 2. she could probably have beaten vhagar in a 1v1 without aemonds sneak tactis. she was able to wrestle vhagar to the ground not only hurting vhagar but also coles army.
so yeah while it may seem like a bad idea, sending rhaenys alone was the best thing to do with the options presented. otherwise you just get baela or jace killed for nothing
@@AriSellassie Meleys was hardly a challenge for the monstrous vhagar & Aemond.
Sunfyre's fire had almost no effect on meleys, but vhagars fire did. Vhagars fire
was hotter than sunfyre's flames, vhagars flames had a visible effect on meleys. You can see where Rhaenys has sut all over her body from vhagars flames.
Meleys scratch on Sunfyre tore her up badly, but when she used it on vhagar it didnt do much damage at all due to vhagar having much thicker scales than sunfyre.
Meleys had to get a little distance from vhagar, then loop back around. Meleys wasnt able to get turned around in time before vhagar moved.
Meleys never stood a chance of beating Vhagar in a 1v1.
So many people aren't understanding what happened in this fight. Meleys didn't knock vhagar down, it's actually the exact opposite. Vhagar was the one who brought the fight down to the ground
As vhagar and meleys flew towards each other, Vhagar grabbed Meleys by the leg and broke it, then began dragging meleys down to the ground. Vhagar knew meleys wouldn't be able to take flight again with a broken leg, which would've made her a sitting duck.
As they got closer to the ground Vhagar had to release meleys leg so she could start slowing her own descent rate, thus cushioning her landing.
Meleys almost touched the ground, but she had just enough time/altitude to flap her wings to create lift and save herself from impact with the ground.
@@kylemma33 I recommend you go read some of the directors thoughts on this because he states that with rhaenys’ superior experience she was planning on bringing vhagar to the ground that’s why she buckled in for a hard fought battle to the ground
The queen that SHOULD HAVE BEEN!🧡💔
Best character in this show, my absolute fav! 🥺 Went out like the boss she were!
how? she has no claim to the throne.
if you think she's above viserys in succession, then rhaena is ahead of Rhaenys' grandpa and Rhaena would be queen
The same Rhaenys that massacred countless of innocents without any remorse at all?
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Great reaction! I just want to point out that Rhaynis was a boss in that fight, she was clearly outclassing Aegon. In the fight versus Vagar, she had the upper hand, she had wounded Vagar already and threw him to the ground. I think she went back cause she just thought she could be them. Only real reason why she gets got there is she is flying low surveying the area. Also important to point out it is a bit different in the book. Great reaction ladies, love you guys!
Ugh great point! I think Meleys stood a chance if she didn’t get caught by surprise there at the end 😭😭 such a tragedy! RIP to the queen who never was 🕊️🫶🏼
Meleys scratched Vhagar in the chest, but it didn't seem to affect her any. I don't know in which part you thought Meleys had the upper hand? Vhagar had her grabbed on first contact and they were throwing fire at each other while spiraling down. She didn't throw her to the ground, they both let go to brace for impact of the fall. Meleys was just able to recover much faster, you can see her flying off by the time Vhagar even begins to stand back up. I just don't see any scenario there where Meleys would win. Not even close lol
Great episode, thanks for sharing.
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Rhaenys doesnt leave the battle because if she leaves then they loose the castle for sure, she knew fighting Vhagar was gonna mean her death but she was hoping to take aemond with her. And without aemond vhagar has no rider and will no longer partake in the war unless someone else claims her.
why does every single UA-camr think vhagar is a he haha
If only Viserys died without talking, his mumbling caused all of this lol
Otto would rather have locked Alicent in a cage than watch her ruin his lives work. Be serious, Alicent not hearing anything wouldn't have changed much.
Actually him naming Rhaenyra in the first place started all of this...
Today’s word was Grouse. Lol
Also, how DARE Alicent come at Aegon like that? SHE raised him. If he’s not proving to be a good king it’s her fault for not raising him and preparing him better. He didn’t even want to be king, they forced it on him and now she berates him for failing to fill the role adequately. He told you he wasn’t fit for the role, you KNEW you raised him to not be fit for the role and now it’s his fault he hasn’t risen to the occasion? He’s a child of his surroundings. Screw her. No wonder he turned to debauchery and drinking to numb his feeling of inadequacy. Aegon is a tragic figure, not a villain.
Well what could she do? Aemond's just isn't bright. He's a dullard. You can't fix that. It's Aemond that is the bright shinning star among her offspring and she ruined his potential. Too bad he wasn't sent to Raynera to be fostered as her third son Daeron was when they sent him away to be fostered outside of Kings landing. Aemond would have turned out much better under the care of Raynera. Probably a completely different person but still a brilliant, educated young man and a fierce warrior.
The black council has been giving good advice but rhynese and rhaenyra only say no and insult them all thete doing is trying to give good abvo e and no one listens
I think if it was Meleys vs Vaghar alone, she could’ve had a better chance bc even after fighting sunfyre, she threw vaghar to the ground… or at least vaghar would have taken a little more damage 😢
Huh? Vhagar killed both Meleys and Sunfyre. Rheanys had no chance.
@@snappingbear incorrect. The source material specifically states that Meleys absolutely stood a chance against Vhagar. Whether that's a small chance or not... it's a chance.
@@Shazzam12 False, the results clearly prove otherwise. Additionally, the source material is purposely wrong. It is told from the perspective of an observer and like all history told from second hand sources it's inherently wrong. Only the three-eyed Raven (GRRM) knows the true history. This writing style leaves itself open to film and TV shows to create the actual cannon as long as they don't change the final outcomes they can fill in the true details. Case in point, in the source indicates Ameond and Aegon worked as a team to battle Rheanys and from an observer that may appear to be correct, however, that wasn't the case at all. The TV show revealed what really happened. It will be the cannon, not the book.
don't censor what doesn't need to be censored