Jamie is an insane host!!! Such a gift. He's such a warm, empathic, and compassionate person. I love how he allows his guests space to talk and goes with them rather than to his agenda. Beautiful to watch. Louise is also so brave ❤
One hell of a woman!! In awe of Louise's strength and despite all she has been through still has that contagious warmth. Great episode! Jamie if all the businesses let you down- you are a natural therapist!! You journey with others beautifully!
Jamie is so good, obviously really cares and really listens. The therapy he's had shows because he's so self aware and able to put himself in the place of others and connect with them, It's lovely; thanks Jamie! 💙
Jamie you handled that with such care and kindness for Louise. What an incredibly tough time she and her family have gone through but it’s so nice to see her smiling and she definitely has her sparkle back. Your friendship now is so refreshing and genuine and that shows in this interview. Congratulations to you both that was informative and I’m sure helpful to so many people.
Jamie, you held space for Louise so beautifully and empathetically here. I really enjoyed this episode, despite the heaviness of what Louise has gone through. Beautiful. More power to you both.
I've heard so many different podcasts, and this is by far the best one. Jaime is compassionate, asks the most perfect respectful questions and has very varied and interesting guests.
That's all I could think about. The hierarchy of how we offer humanity and space to other people's sadness and trauma. With white celebrities being at the top (despite their support networks, access to resources, safety nets), then people in developed countries. And yet we so easily with Black and brown people in "other" countries will have the same stories with the same emotions of disbelief, fear, trauma, humour, hope, love, grief and so much more. Yet where is their platform. Everyone should have this.
The medical establishment is so arrogant. It's really good that this is being talked about as there's so little discussion around women's issues, peri natal, birthing and postnatal.
It was really comforting to hear the two of you so perfectly explain the feeling of disassociation I've never been able to explain how I felt when I had a mental health crisis and this is just so well put
And great to raise awareness on ulcerative colitis, a really debilitating illness. I think Louise is very strong, selfless and well done to her for helping other people who might be suffering similarly.
Louise is such a deeply thoughtful beautiful person . She is so beautiful when she speaks. I can’t explain it idk whether it’s how emotionally in tune she is or just the way she speaks such difficult emotions so softly and thoughtfully. What a light she is in expressing her darkness. Louise I wish the best for you and your family
Jamie, you are such a wonderful interviewer; you really grasp the poignant details of conversation and listen so acutely. Louise, I’m so , so sorry for what you have endured but am so, incredibly proud of your vulnerability and honesty. You will help so many people whom feel isolated in their experiences and suffering. Such wonderful insight and bravery❤
Listening to Louise’s story around her experiences with healthcare, practitioners’ attitude and behaviour makes me incandescent with rage. I and my mum, and friends and acquaintances have had so many nightmares around NOT BEING LISTENED TO. It got so bad at one stage I started doing research into patient-doctor communication, and even spoke with a director of our Clinical School. Then my mother had a medical accident that nearly killed her, and I suddenly became her carer, so everything got shelved. I’m struggling with doctors now, and still don’t know how to communicate effectively without getting steamrollered, gaslit, bullied, silenced, … There’s so much to say on this subject. In parallel, I’ve had generalised anxiety and panic disorder and depersonalisation since I was about 4. It’s terrifying. In fact, it was listening to Jamie, on a UA-cam video about 7 years ago, that helped me get over it. So much to say on all of this, too much … Yes, Louise and Jamie are both privileged and relatively wealthy, but that doesn’t mean they can’t feel.
Thank you for having this conversation. It’s so important and relatable for those of us living with trauma, and those wanting to understand the impact it has on us and everyone around us.
Omg Louise that’s seriously incredible how strong you are - the amount of trauma you have been through, I mean not one trauma like over 4 different huge incidents - Unbelievable woman and resilient..even being able to talk about it a year later…wow so strong! And Jamie what a wonderful wonderful person, host, the kindest most understanding friend to Louise. It’s absolutely beautiful friendship to watch. Jamie has so much empathy for what Louise has been through
I hear ya girl! I had my own ordeal, lost a kidney, had 5 surgeries, lost a ton of hair, very nearly lost my life ... Took 2 years to recover...It will never be the same but the wisdom gained through it I wouldn't trade. I will NEVER ever take my health for granted, ever agin. It makes you want to lead your life differently, less superficial, more wholesome.
Jamie is so lovely, he has a great way of letting Louise tell her story but he tells it back so that the listener has a good understanding of the context of what she went through. You can tell he genuinely cares and feels for her, and he has a great attitude in letting her tell her story how she wants to tell it. I am reading Louise's book and was shocked by what she went through and the psychological trauma she has been left with. I felt the same way giving birth, no one took any notice of my wishes or birth plan, I was not listened to, I was made to feel weak when I asked for an epidural and ended up with a forceps delivery. We need to do better for women, if a c-section is what they want why are they being denied it? To save face for the NHS? I wish Louise all the best and hope she can draw strength in her recovery. Thank you to Jamie for another amazing interview.
Jamie, you're such a brilliant interviewer. Such thoughtful, pertinent, compassionate and interesting questions - and across all your interviews. Love listening to your podcasts. Fascinating!
Big Kudos to Louise for so vulnerably sharing what she's gone through and the fallout from all of those experiences. That's a difficult enough thing to do privately nevermind publicly. You're an outstanding and amazing woman Louise. Lots of love to you and yours going forward. Jamie another excellent interview. I love your energy and your empathetic , caring heart 💜
Wow, just in awe of who Jamie is now. Struggle to watch Louise’s stories due to my own trauma but he has such compassion, remember these two well from MiC days and you can tell he has empathy from their relationship. He has made her feel safe. When he tells her to fck everyone and say her story. Good for you.
I watched Louise's video about ulcerative colitis, I myself have crohns and had stoma surgery and part of my colon removed, its good to see someone raising awareness ❤
I started watching this because of how great Jamie was with Paloma. Love Jamie’s you do you with telling your story. Wow how much has Louise been through!
Louise, you spoke so beautifully about everything you've been through. Your resilience, emotional intelligence and poise when telling your story is remarkable. Wishing you all the best moving forward. Jamie you're such a lovely kind friend and amazing interviewer x
Pregnancy and the state of the NHS is just too terrifying. Bless Louise, this was such a great conversation. Jamie is so empathetic and an amazing listener. Thanks so much for talking about depersonalisation too. Xx
Great episode, Jamie is a really good podcaster and gets the most out of his guests. Poor Louise has been through so much. It's good that someone well known is willing to speak openly about bowel issues
Had a lump in my throat all the way through this , so so so sad what she's been through. So beautiful to see her come out the other side and thriving now ❤
Oh my gosh, Louise we had almost identical births, and hearing someone say my almost story out loud makes me realise how traumatic it was but I’ve not really worked through it. You’re so incredible to be open and vulnerable. I also have crohns so I relate to your story so much xxx
I’m so sorry you and your family went through all that trauma. It’s great to see you looking so well as I can imagine how sick you were. I wish you a long and happy life with your man and little boy x
I'm glad Louise is bringing awareness regarding PTSD. I was misdiagnosed for over a decade with post-partum PTSD, by a complete charlatan Psychiatrist, working for the NHS. It's still not on my medical records after 2 GP's confirmed it. I'm now contemplating a legal medical negligence claim. My life could have been so much different, if I knew what was actually happening to me. I've had to learn everything for myself, as a single mum without any support.
I wish I had. Left with 10 years of negligence from male dr who refused to acknowledge danger I was in from needing a simple procedure then 2 births where they refused to listen to me forced me into a birth where my children nearly died despite being booked for c sections then they hid my medical notes till after the 3 year limitation period with a sorry the person who hid your notes is sacked now but was too late to sue them
I had a very similar experience in childbirth. I started off labouring at home for 18 hours until reaching 9cm.. was rushed to hospital & ended with an emergency c-section that went wrong. Luckily my baby was fine, but I wasn’t. They worked on me for 4 hours whilst awake and feeling everything. But my partner was not aloud in the theatre with me, instead on his own looking after our baby thinking he was going to have to face being a parent without me. It was as a terrifying time! I’m grateful for Louise being able to open up about this subject so I don’t feel so alone, but also it’s scary how many women have been through similar!
Working as an anaesthetic ODP, I pride myself with the communication when your in an emergency. But sometimes its just all hands on deck. I dont want to say its nice to hear it from the other side, however, its definitely useful. I have only witnessed two cases that ended like yours and they were very scary, organised ans controlled, but hours pass like minutes while we struggle to do everything required. Post partum haemorrhage are the thing we dread the most in theatre
I had a traumatic birth 30 years ago and never had another child. The trauma does go, Louise, and everything can be normal again if you just choose to live your life and stop dwelling on what was. Now, if I think back to that time all I feel is a small wince and then I move on. Stay strong and know that if you live life looking forward you can overcome trauma and reclaim your life. xx
I think her story goes beyond traumatic birth, how dismissive of you. Similar to people telling me not to "lean into the grief" after my mother died traumaticaly, just not helpful at all...
She also has a stoma bag and a serious autoimmune disease, ulcerative colitis and I think also lupus. She lost bowel function and had life saving surgery after extreme discomfort and pain ongoing after the traumatic birth, so a lot more than you mention.
What a fantastic interview, Louise your story will help so many. Wishing you and your lovely family much happiness and health. Jaime’s always been my favorite cast mate on MIC. He’s such a kind, empathetic sole. We need more people in this world like him. ❤😢❤
Blood hell, this was a really emotional listen. What trauma Louise and her family have been through, just heartbreaking. What a phoenix she is. Well done for getting through all that and coping with the inevitable life altering aftermath. 🤗
Credit to you, Jamie. A wonderful “interview “ and your adoration for Louise shows what a great host but even better friend you are. Louise- you are the epitome of strength and courage.
Well done Louise and Jamie, great interview. Louise has been through a lot and it’s lovely to see her back to smiling and feeling healthy. Her trauma will be with her for a long time but the memories of it will gradually fade and become less painful x
Always been a fan of Louise. And Jamie. And all the original crew. I love whenever I hear the updates on all, even though Louise's story is a tough one. All the best to her onward and upward.
Great to see you both reunited. Absoutly Brilliant Chat between friends. Wonderful strong women, Jamie always inquisitive especially genuine with his friends
Jamie is so good at creating an interesting chat. Wow Louise has been through so much trauma in such a small space of time😢. Bless her for talking openly about it all and glad she’s back ontop 😊
Lovely to hear Jamie being so kind and emotionally mature… ♥️ so far removed from his MiC days (some are still stuck in that era and is painful to watch). Really glad Louise is getting better, one step at the time.
What a remarkable. Strong lady. Louise, take your mum's words with you always through life, because she was so right. Very touching,personal, heartbreaking subjects you covered, I pray 🙏 moving forward life is more gentle on you. Jamie is the most compassionate soul. What a wonderful person he is. ❤
Louise you are amazing. Thank you for sharing this. I also had an incredibly traumatic birth and nearly 18 years later I am still processing it. And thank you Jamie for taking such good care of Louise during this interview. Important topic
Wasn't sure i was going to watch this one. I am so glad I did. I had no idea about Louise's story since leaving MIC. I am amazed at her resilience and can completely understand how overwhelming being in a hospital can be. The one time you have to fight your own corner but have no ammunition left against well-meaning but over bearing medical professionals can be demoralising and leave you questioning your own mind. I've had heart disease for 12 years, and although i am incredibly grateful for all the treatment I've had, I am so tired of medical procedures. But in the words of Roland Keating. Life is a roller coaster just got to ride it.
life really is cruel at times. A massive lesson to learn from this is don't take life for granted and always keep going, regardless of the struggles we may face. Thank you Jamie and especially Louise for opening up and talking about this part of her life x
Loving these podcast Paloma Jo & lousie are far most my favourite Wht a lovely place to be walking my dog with my headphones on listening to these wonderful honest ppl 🙏😊🙌
What an amazing woman. Thank you for your honesty. It brought back memories of a horrible - nothing natural about it - labour I had with my first son 30 years ago and like you, it was 6 months before I could talk to my first husband about what happened. I did not think I would have further children at that time but have 3 sons (2nd and 3rd C sections) My 2nd husband dissociates and had for many years but after years of excellent therapy he still does but a lot less and for shorter periods. I really did not think I would see the positive change in him that has happened. Hearing him sing in the shower and laugh in the kitchen. It is so good to see you here both laughing with each other and you have made it through the dark times.
What a strong woman you are. What you've gone through and managed to have come out the other side. I loved little Louise in Made in Chelsea you were an adorable young womanl. Now you're a really exceptionally strong woman. I'm glad you've told your story it will definately help other women cope with trauma. Full of admiration for you. I wish you nothing but good things for your future. Continue going from strength to strength. I wish you well
Louise, what a Gal!! Jamie, wonderful interview, you are a pleasure to watch, I admire this woman so much, what power she has in sharing these exiperences and living to tell the tale. Many blessings to her and her amazing family. ❤
I had horrendous births. Especially the first one. Both emergency c sections. But, with my first I was messed around. I had pre eclampsia and she was breach. They induced me and my body shit down. I remember saying to all the staff as they rush my signature and carted me off to theatre, if this doesn’t work, thanks for trying. I thought I wouldn’t make it. Thank you for sharing and I’m glad you’re on the mend xx
I really loved this episode! Jamie you are such a beautiful person, your compassion, love and judgement free space feels so refreshing, even as a watcher. Its so good to see Louise smiling and laughing too - what a story! Like wow - I just cant comprehend those experiences, but I'm so thankful to hear that even through hell you can still find joy in life again.
Well done Jamie for this interview with Louise. Highlighting the plight that many women have experienced and suffered. Unfortunately the NHS has changed over the last decade. They’re doing their best I know but it’s just not as good as it used to be. There should be compulsory therapy and hypnotherapy for this trauma. Keep on trucking Louise you are doing very well. Well done Ryan. ❤❤
Downloaded the book on Audible! Unbelievable experience Louise has been through, she is so amazingly strong and Jamie’s understanding and empathy is wonderful as always x
Sending you two friends LOVE. I spent years in that dissociated state, every minute of every day terrifying. Crohn"s disease,, depression ontop. Very Best Wishes x x
This has had me feeling very emotional for you Louise …. Jamie you have done an amazing interview here. The ambulance part had me 😢 I hope you and Ryan have the hearts and roses Much love to you all xxx
Thank you for this. So raw and honest. I've 'known' both of you since the early MIC days, and had a baby 2 years before Louise, so always felt I could even more relate (I'm obviously not implying to know and fully understand what you've been through, but I can emphasise with you). I've followed your story and recovery, and I just wanted to say thank you for being so open about your struggles, I think it will help a lot of people, even if they're experiencing other difficulties. It is so great to see you fighting back and coming out at the other end
Im really enjoying this podcast, Jamie has such a great way of getting the best out of people even when recounting such traumatic or life changing experiences. What A little sunflower! 🌻 Louise is so brave, what a brilliant role model for people today! She’s been through so much that could break a person and shes still here fighting and looking so happy and healthy. She’s obviously showered with the love and grace of a fantastic family and deserves this second chance!❤ I think when she touched on the fact that at one point in her life abs we’re super important and she looks back at that time from a really different place - really shows the transformation of adolescence turning into womanhood. Something I never understood until I gave birth myself. Life is beautiful and so worth it, through pain, the superficial capitalistic set up of today’s times because deep down , humans can be wonderful and powerful.
I’m so sorry to hear about Louise’s story…😢 Louise your experience will help others in the future. This will pass your memory soon…we all are evolving spiritually…bad memories will be forgotten more easily. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Literally understand the whole depersonalisation thing so much so scary but the fact you two understand gives me some hope that I’m normal so weird, but so thankful I’ve just watched this podcast big up you two I know how exactly how weird it must be trying to explain it wow well done 👏💙
Well done Jamie. Another great interview. Lovely to see your friendship. I went through the same birth you did Louise but luckily I did birth my baby but it left me with neck pain for life. I was traumatised for years and could not watch a birth on tv for at least 10 years. So Happy that you are in a much better place. X
I’m not hugely wealthy but went private with an elective c section due to few too many horror stories (and my anxiety), honestly no regrets whatsoever being able to pick the consultant and have such great pre/post care at Westminster hospital. It clicked when someone said “we would pay X for a wedding why not for your health!” - of course we can’t control it all and fate takes over
I’ve always liked Lou on MIC and more so now since she has been so open about her health with her birth experience. Like Jamie said the resilience she’s got is out of this world.
I didn't know that Louise had gone through so much, I only remember her kind of walking into the sunset with Ryan when she no longer appeared on MIC. Watching this post with Jamie on his Podcast really was a Suprise, I'm so happy that she came through it with Ryan still with her & having a little boy Leo. She has still got her beautiful smile & has matured into a Brilliant woman I hope she has now found her Peace because she deserves it 100 %, God Bless you Louise & be happy now with your little family, much Love ❤❤❤
I felt ignored my first pregnancy and no one took me seriously. I went into early labour and had to be rushed into emergency surgery. I knew something was wrong with me but no one would listen. I had terrible post natal depression as a result.
Amazing to hear your story, Louise. You have helped me heal, hearing your own personal healing journey. You are incredibly strong. You truly are an inspiration to us all. Thank you to you both for this true podcast ❤ appreciate you both! You guys have come a long way from MIC you guys were my favourites ! x
Fab podcast and thanks guys. Not watched MIC for a while but you were part of my only reality TV journey. Clearly great friends and Jamie - wonderful podcast host and Louise (so raw and funny and real). Good things do come from reality tv huh? Big hugs and love to you both xxx
Jamie is so beautifully compassionate. We need more men as emotionally intelligent as him! Great to see Louise doing well🥺💌
@ThatGirlK24people can change, it seems you lack the emotional intelligence to understand that 😅
Jamie is an insane host!!! Such a gift. He's such a warm, empathic, and compassionate person. I love how he allows his guests space to talk and goes with them rather than to his agenda. Beautiful to watch. Louise is also so brave ❤
One hell of a woman!! In awe of Louise's strength and despite all she has been through still has that contagious warmth. Great episode! Jamie if all the businesses let you down- you are a natural therapist!! You journey with others beautifully!
Jamie is a natural at this. He was always my favourite MiC guy. Good luck and every success in this endeavour. 🌟
I always thought he was a bit of a tw*t in MIC but since he's been with Sophie and left MIC he's definitely improved
@@suecoo66same, it's lovely to see his growth tho, who knew he'd end up being a role model.
Jamie is so good, obviously really cares and really listens. The therapy he's had shows because he's so self aware and able to put himself in the place of others and connect with them, It's lovely; thanks Jamie! 💙
Bless Louise sharing her story. Bringing awareness & helping others ❤
Jamie you handled that with such care and kindness for Louise. What an incredibly tough time she and her family have gone through but it’s so nice to see her smiling and she definitely has her sparkle back. Your friendship now is so refreshing and genuine and that shows in this interview. Congratulations to you both that was informative and I’m sure helpful to so many people.
PTSD is really resolvable with a good EMDR therapist. You can.
What an amazing lady to be able to retell her horrendous experiences in such a compassionate way, helped by a lovely friend and host.
Jamie, you held space for Louise so beautifully and empathetically here. I really enjoyed this episode, despite the heaviness of what Louise has gone through. Beautiful. More power to you both.
or the women that gave birth in concentration camps
This was lovely to watch, really nice to see old mates get together and speak about their lives so openly.
I've heard so many different podcasts, and this is by far the best one. Jaime is compassionate, asks the most perfect respectful questions and has very varied and interesting guests.
😢 i have so much respect for Louise. What a woman. And such a lovely friendship.
This made me think of the woman giving birth in Gaza and what they must go through with no hospitals or medication :(
Me too x
They have PSTD for the rest of their life ….
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Yeah same 😢
That's all I could think about. The hierarchy of how we offer humanity and space to other people's sadness and trauma. With white celebrities being at the top (despite their support networks, access to resources, safety nets), then people in developed countries. And yet we so easily with Black and brown people in "other" countries will have the same stories with the same emotions of disbelief, fear, trauma, humour, hope, love, grief and so much more. Yet where is their platform. Everyone should have this.
So lovely to see Louise and Jamie back in the same coversation and how much they care and get on! A lovely friendship.
The medical establishment is so arrogant. It's really good that this is being talked about as there's so little discussion around women's issues, peri natal, birthing and postnatal.
It was really comforting to hear the two of you so perfectly explain the feeling of disassociation I've never been able to explain how I felt when I had a mental health crisis and this is just so well put
And great to raise awareness on ulcerative colitis, a really debilitating illness. I think Louise is very strong, selfless and well done to her for helping other people who might be suffering similarly.
Louise is such a deeply thoughtful beautiful person . She is so beautiful when she speaks. I can’t explain it idk whether it’s how emotionally in tune she is or just the way she speaks such difficult emotions so softly and thoughtfully. What a light she is in expressing her darkness. Louise I wish the best for you and your family
Jamie, you are such a wonderful interviewer; you really grasp the poignant details of conversation and listen so acutely. Louise, I’m so , so sorry for what you have endured but am so, incredibly proud of your vulnerability and honesty. You will help so many people whom feel isolated in their experiences and suffering. Such wonderful insight and bravery❤
Listening to Louise’s story around her experiences with healthcare, practitioners’ attitude and behaviour makes me incandescent with rage. I and my mum, and friends and acquaintances have had so many nightmares around NOT BEING LISTENED TO. It got so bad at one stage I started doing research into patient-doctor communication, and even spoke with a director of our Clinical School. Then my mother had a medical accident that nearly killed her, and I suddenly became her carer, so everything got shelved. I’m struggling with doctors now, and still don’t know how to communicate effectively without getting steamrollered, gaslit, bullied, silenced, … There’s so much to say on this subject.
In parallel, I’ve had generalised anxiety and panic disorder and depersonalisation since I was about 4. It’s terrifying. In fact, it was listening to Jamie, on a UA-cam video about 7 years ago, that helped me get over it.
So much to say on all of this, too much …
Yes, Louise and Jamie are both privileged and relatively wealthy, but that doesn’t mean they can’t feel.
Thank you for having this conversation. It’s so important and relatable for those of us living with trauma, and those wanting to understand the impact it has on us and everyone around us.
Omg Louise that’s seriously incredible how strong you are - the amount of trauma you have been through, I mean not one trauma like over 4 different huge incidents - Unbelievable woman and resilient..even being able to talk about it a year later…wow so strong! And Jamie what a wonderful wonderful person, host, the kindest most understanding friend to Louise. It’s absolutely beautiful friendship to watch. Jamie has so much empathy for what Louise has been through
I hear ya girl! I had my own ordeal, lost a kidney, had 5 surgeries, lost a ton of hair, very nearly lost my life ... Took 2 years to recover...It will never be the same but the wisdom gained through it I wouldn't trade. I will NEVER ever take my health for granted, ever agin. It makes you want to lead your life differently, less superficial, more wholesome.
Jamie is so lovely, he has a great way of letting Louise tell her story but he tells it back so that the listener has a good understanding of the context of what she went through. You can tell he genuinely cares and feels for her, and he has a great attitude in letting her tell her story how she wants to tell it. I am reading Louise's book and was shocked by what she went through and the psychological trauma she has been left with. I felt the same way giving birth, no one took any notice of my wishes or birth plan, I was not listened to, I was made to feel weak when I asked for an epidural and ended up with a forceps delivery. We need to do better for women, if a c-section is what they want why are they being denied it? To save face for the NHS? I wish Louise all the best and hope she can draw strength in her recovery. Thank you to Jamie for another amazing interview.
I love the way Jamie makes Louise feel comfortable and not embarrassed to talk about her problems.
Jamie, you're such a brilliant interviewer. Such thoughtful, pertinent, compassionate and interesting questions - and across all your interviews. Love listening to your podcasts. Fascinating!
Big Kudos to Louise for so vulnerably sharing what she's gone through and the fallout from all of those experiences.
That's a difficult enough thing to do privately nevermind publicly.
You're an outstanding and amazing woman Louise.
Lots of love to you and yours going forward.
Jamie another excellent interview.
I love your energy and your empathetic , caring heart 💜
Wow, just in awe of who Jamie is now. Struggle to watch Louise’s stories due to my own trauma but he has such compassion, remember these two well from MiC days and you can tell he has empathy from their relationship. He has made her feel safe. When he tells her to fck everyone and say her story. Good for you.
I watched Louise's video about ulcerative colitis, I myself have crohns and had stoma surgery and part of my colon removed, its good to see someone raising awareness ❤
I started watching this because of how great Jamie was with Paloma. Love Jamie’s you do you with telling your story. Wow how much has Louise been through!
Louise, you spoke so beautifully about everything you've been through. Your resilience, emotional intelligence and poise when telling your story is remarkable. Wishing you all the best moving forward. Jamie you're such a lovely kind friend and amazing interviewer x
Pregnancy and the state of the NHS is just too terrifying. Bless Louise, this was such a great conversation. Jamie is so empathetic and an amazing listener. Thanks so much for talking about depersonalisation too. Xx
Jesus, poor Lou! She's been through hell and back. Well done to her for getting through it
This podcast episode is really important. Thank you both
Great episode, Jamie is a really good podcaster and gets the most out of his guests. Poor Louise has been through so much. It's good that someone well known is willing to speak openly about bowel issues
Had a lump in my throat all the way through this , so so so sad what she's been through. So beautiful to see her come out the other side and thriving now ❤
Oh my gosh, Louise we had almost identical births, and hearing someone say my almost story out loud makes me realise how traumatic it was but I’ve not really worked through it. You’re so incredible to be open and vulnerable. I also have crohns so I relate to your story so much xxx
I’m so sorry you and your family went through all that trauma. It’s great to see you looking so well as I can imagine how sick you were. I wish you a long and happy life with your man and little boy x
Good to see these guys back together, they have been through so much together and separately. True friendship. Amazing , moving discussion.
I'm glad Louise is bringing awareness regarding PTSD. I was misdiagnosed for over a decade with post-partum PTSD, by a complete charlatan Psychiatrist, working for the NHS. It's still not on my medical records after 2 GP's confirmed it. I'm now contemplating a legal medical negligence claim. My life could have been so much different, if I knew what was actually happening to me. I've had to learn everything for myself, as a single mum without any support.
I wish I had. Left with 10 years of negligence from male dr who refused to acknowledge danger I was in from needing a simple procedure then 2 births where they refused to listen to me forced me into a birth where my children nearly died despite being booked for c sections then they hid my medical notes till after the 3 year limitation period with a sorry the person who hid your notes is sacked now but was too late to sue them
These two were always my favourite on MiC, Jamie is a fantastic interviewer and listener. Well done both of you.
I never thought i would be saying this but Jamie would make a great Therapist
I had a very similar experience in childbirth. I started off labouring at home for 18 hours until reaching 9cm.. was rushed to hospital & ended with an emergency c-section that went wrong. Luckily my baby was fine, but I wasn’t. They worked on me for 4 hours whilst awake and feeling everything. But my partner was not aloud in the theatre with me, instead on his own looking after our baby thinking he was going to have to face being a parent without me. It was as a terrifying time! I’m grateful for Louise being able to open up about this subject so I don’t feel so alone, but also it’s scary how many women have been through similar!
Working as an anaesthetic ODP, I pride myself with the communication when your in an emergency. But sometimes its just all hands on deck. I dont want to say its nice to hear it from the other side, however, its definitely useful. I have only witnessed two cases that ended like yours and they were very scary, organised ans controlled, but hours pass like minutes while we struggle to do everything required. Post partum haemorrhage are the thing we dread the most in theatre
Amazing how your life can change wjth a few circumstances.great to see these two together. Wonderful interview
Jamie did great here, really gave her Space to just talk.
I had a traumatic birth 30 years ago and never had another child. The trauma does go, Louise, and everything can be normal again if you just choose to live your life and stop dwelling on what was. Now, if I think back to that time all I feel is a small wince and then I move on. Stay strong and know that if you live life looking forward you can overcome trauma and reclaim your life. xx
I totally agree. I believe you can look back, but don't stare.
Yes but they live in the rarefied atmosphere
I think her story goes beyond traumatic birth, how dismissive of you. Similar to people telling me not to "lean into the grief" after my mother died traumaticaly, just not helpful at all...
She also has a stoma bag and a serious autoimmune disease, ulcerative colitis and I think also lupus. She lost bowel function and had life saving surgery after extreme discomfort and pain ongoing after the traumatic birth, so a lot more than you mention.
Yes I feel that comment was dismissive and not understanding .@@thearodriguez8073
What a fantastic interview, Louise your story will help so many. Wishing you and your lovely family much happiness and health. Jaime’s always been my favorite cast mate on MIC. He’s such a kind, empathetic sole. We need more people in this world like him. ❤😢❤
Blood hell, this was a really emotional listen. What trauma Louise and her family have been through, just heartbreaking. What a phoenix she is. Well done for getting through all that and coping with the inevitable life altering aftermath. 🤗
The friendship between you both is so lovely, may it last forever, thank you for sharing your togetherness with all of us 💕🙏
Credit to you, Jamie. A wonderful “interview “ and your adoration for Louise shows what a great host but even better friend you are.
Louise- you are the epitome of strength and courage.
Well done Louise and Jamie, great interview. Louise has been through a lot and it’s lovely to see her back to smiling and feeling healthy. Her trauma will be with her for a long time but the memories of it will gradually fade and become less painful x
Always been a fan of Louise. And Jamie. And all the original crew. I love whenever I hear the updates on all, even though Louise's story is a tough one. All the best to her onward and upward.
And the podcast just gets better well done Louise you’ve been through a lot you two have a blinding friendship, amazing podcast
Great to see you both reunited.
Absoutly Brilliant Chat between friends.
Wonderful strong women, Jamie always inquisitive especially genuine with his friends
Jamie is so good at creating an interesting chat. Wow Louise has been through so much trauma in such a small space of time😢. Bless her for talking openly about it all and glad she’s back ontop 😊
Lovely to hear Jamie being so kind and emotionally mature… ♥️ so far removed from his MiC days (some are still stuck in that era and is painful to watch).
Really glad Louise is getting better, one step at the time.
What a compelling and beautiful conversation this was.
So inspiring. What a impactful yet calm conversation. Well done louise x
What a remarkable. Strong lady. Louise, take your mum's words with you always through life, because she was so right. Very touching,personal, heartbreaking subjects you covered, I pray 🙏 moving forward life is more gentle on you. Jamie is the most compassionate soul. What a wonderful person he is. ❤
Louise you are amazing. Thank you for sharing this. I also had an incredibly traumatic birth and nearly 18 years later I am still processing it. And thank you Jamie for taking such good care of Louise during this interview. Important topic
Wasn't sure i was going to watch this one. I am so glad I did. I had no idea about Louise's story since leaving MIC. I am amazed at her resilience and can completely understand how overwhelming being in a hospital can be. The one time you have to fight your own corner but have no ammunition left against well-meaning but over bearing medical professionals can be demoralising and leave you questioning your own mind. I've had heart disease for 12 years, and although i am incredibly grateful for all the treatment I've had, I am so tired of medical procedures. But in the words of Roland Keating. Life is a roller coaster just got to ride it.
life really is cruel at times. A massive lesson to learn from this is don't take life for granted and always keep going, regardless of the struggles we may face. Thank you Jamie and especially Louise for opening up and talking about this part of her life x
Loving these podcast
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Jo & lousie are far most my favourite
Wht a lovely place to be walking my dog with my headphones on listening to these wonderful honest ppl 🙏😊🙌
What a resilient and beautiful woman and Jamie is magical at this. Nice one
What an amazing woman. Thank you for your honesty. It brought back memories of a horrible - nothing natural about it - labour I had with my first son 30 years ago and like you, it was 6 months before I could talk to my first husband about what happened. I did not think I would have further children at that time but have 3 sons (2nd and 3rd C sections) My 2nd husband dissociates and had for many years but after years of excellent therapy he still does but a lot less and for shorter periods. I really did not think I would see the positive change in him that has happened. Hearing him sing in the shower and laugh in the kitchen. It is so good to see you here both laughing with each other and you have made it through the dark times.
incredible interview! Thank you for sharing
Such an incredible women! So inspiring. She has gone through so much and to be this positive and strong. Wishing her endless success and happiness. X
What a strong woman you are. What you've gone through and managed to have come out the other side. I loved little Louise in Made in Chelsea you were an adorable young womanl. Now you're a really exceptionally strong woman. I'm glad you've told your story it will definately help other women cope with trauma. Full of admiration for you. I wish you nothing but good things for your future. Continue going from strength to strength. I wish you well
Louise, what a Gal!! Jamie, wonderful interview, you are a pleasure to watch, I admire this woman so much, what power she has in sharing these exiperences and living to tell the tale. Many blessings to her and her amazing family. ❤
I had horrendous births. Especially the first one. Both emergency c sections. But, with my first I was messed around. I had pre eclampsia and she was breach. They induced me and my body shit down. I remember saying to all the staff as they rush my signature and carted me off to theatre, if this doesn’t work, thanks for trying. I thought I wouldn’t make it. Thank you for sharing and I’m glad you’re on the mend xx
so glad you’re okay! bless you ❤
I really loved this episode! Jamie you are such a beautiful person, your compassion, love and judgement free space feels so refreshing, even as a watcher. Its so good to see Louise smiling and laughing too - what a story! Like wow - I just cant comprehend those experiences, but I'm so thankful to hear that even through hell you can still find joy in life again.
Jamie you are a natural tbh you should be on television!! Great interview loved Louise get her back again 🔥🔥🔥
they have a beautiful dynamic
Well done Jamie for this interview with Louise. Highlighting the plight that many women have experienced and suffered. Unfortunately the NHS has changed over the last decade. They’re doing their best I know but it’s just not as good as it used to be. There should be compulsory therapy and hypnotherapy for this trauma. Keep on trucking Louise you are doing very well. Well done Ryan. ❤❤
Jamie is so reassuring it’s lovely!
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Downloaded the book on Audible! Unbelievable experience Louise has been through, she is so amazingly strong and Jamie’s understanding and empathy is wonderful as always x
Sending you two friends LOVE. I spent years in that dissociated state, every minute of every day terrifying. Crohn"s disease,, depression ontop. Very Best Wishes x x
This has had me feeling very emotional for you Louise …. Jamie you have done an amazing interview here.
The ambulance part had me 😢 I hope you and Ryan have the hearts and roses
Much love to you all xxx
What she said about her brain just scrambling trying to think of any way it can survive is so accurate as that is exactly what the brain does.
Thank you for this. So raw and honest. I've 'known' both of you since the early MIC days, and had a baby 2 years before Louise, so always felt I could even more relate (I'm obviously not implying to know and fully understand what you've been through, but I can emphasise with you). I've followed your story and recovery, and I just wanted to say thank you for being so open about your struggles, I think it will help a lot of people, even if they're experiencing other difficulties. It is so great to see you fighting back and coming out at the other end
Im really enjoying this podcast, Jamie has such a great way of getting the best out of people even when recounting such traumatic or life changing experiences. What A little sunflower! 🌻
Louise is so brave, what a brilliant role model for people today! She’s been through so much that could break a person and shes still here fighting and looking so happy and healthy. She’s obviously showered with the love and grace of a fantastic family and deserves this second chance!❤
I think when she touched on the fact that at one point in her life abs we’re super important and she looks back at that time from a really different place - really shows the transformation of adolescence turning into womanhood. Something I never understood until I gave birth myself.
Life is beautiful and so worth it, through pain, the superficial capitalistic set up of today’s times because deep down , humans can be wonderful and powerful.
Tldnr great vid 😂😊
I’m so sorry to hear about Louise’s story…😢
Louise your experience will help others in the future. This will pass your memory soon…we all are evolving spiritually…bad memories will be forgotten more easily. 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Literally understand the whole depersonalisation thing so much so scary but the fact you two understand gives me some hope that I’m normal so weird, but so thankful I’ve just watched this podcast big up you two I know how exactly how weird it must be trying to explain it wow well done 👏💙
Jamie you’re a really great interviewer , you bring out the best in your guests ❤
Well done Jamie. Another great interview. Lovely to see your friendship. I went through the same birth you did Louise but luckily I did birth my baby but it left me with neck pain for life. I was traumatised for years and could not watch a birth on tv for at least 10 years. So Happy that you are in a much better place. X
I’m not hugely wealthy but went private with an elective c section due to few too many horror stories (and my anxiety), honestly no regrets whatsoever being able to pick the consultant and have such great pre/post care at Westminster hospital. It clicked when someone said “we would pay X for a wedding why not for your health!” - of course we can’t control it all and fate takes over
Fab interview - Louise, enjoy every moment of your recovery and beyond ❤
I’ve always liked Lou on MIC and more so now since she has been so open about her health with her birth experience. Like Jamie said the resilience she’s got is out of this world.
I didn't know that Louise had gone through so much, I only remember her kind of walking into the sunset with Ryan when she no longer appeared on MIC. Watching this post with Jamie on his Podcast really was a Suprise, I'm so happy that she came through it with Ryan still with her & having a little boy Leo. She has still got her beautiful smile & has matured into a Brilliant woman I hope she has now found her Peace because she deserves it 100 %, God Bless you Louise & be happy now with your little family, much Love ❤❤❤
Oh my god best podcast I.ve ever seen and has made me realise I had never dealt with my ectopic pregnancy but Louise ty for sharing your journey
Oh Jamie! Such a beautiful episode xxx so much love! X
They really have Sucha beautiful friendship and chemistry
I felt ignored my first pregnancy and no one took me seriously. I went into early labour and had to be rushed into emergency surgery. I knew something was wrong with me but no one would listen. I had terrible post natal depression as a result.
Amazing to hear your story, Louise. You have helped me heal, hearing your own personal healing journey. You are incredibly strong. You truly are an inspiration to us all.
Thank you to you both for this true podcast ❤ appreciate you both! You guys have come a long way from MIC you guys were my favourites ! x
So sorry that you had to go through all of these❤
This interview is incredible.
I just began on Season 1, it's Epic!!! MIC X
Fab podcast and thanks guys. Not watched MIC for a while but you were part of my only reality TV journey.
Clearly great friends and Jamie - wonderful podcast host and Louise (so raw and funny and real).
Good things do come from reality tv huh?
Big hugs and love to you both xxx
Louise and Ryan omg ❤ god bless you guys ! & thank you Jamie for posting this ! 🎉