Another fantastic videos always! Now to be a backseat captain steering the ship, if I was in command of the Neghvar I would’ve started off targeting the impulse engines. And then I would hang back and play call of duty sniper, and just camp and let my big guns finish them off. The Q clip was the cherry on the cake ! Well done sir!
You'd think by now someone would've come up with the concept of a shield that absorbs incoming phaser energy and transfer it into the shielding itself. The more hits it takes, the more it can take
Pretty close. Probably would've been closer if the computer had used more than one volly of quantum torpedoes in that last round, ut good job to both sides.
After the first fight, the boys at Jupiter station are gonna be pissed 😆. The mistake that the Klingons made was keeping their bow pointed at you at all times. Otherwise, you were seriously outgunned. I was holding my breath... I thought you were both gonna blow up. 😄
The enterprise F having 18 type 12 radiolytic phasers, would make its phases 3x stronger than a galaxy class, that’s not including the extra turrets, launch platform, or torpedo launchers, simply put, it should do just fine against the Klingons from earlier (though I realize the super edition is not a Star Trek ship theme in general, at least to my knowledge, but I’ll assume it’s at least equal to a standard version, in which case the enterprise F wins)
If this Negh'Var really is meant to be the one from DS9, then it isn't a "Super Negh'Var", it is just the IKS Negh'Var, as the ship in that episode was the IKS Negh'Var. All other speculative weaker Negh'Vars, which we have no canon evidence are actually weaker than the class namer, would be, like, Lesser Negh'Vars or something, but arguably they shouldn't exist anyway.
😨Jeepers Admiral.. gosh.. that Negh'Var is insane and scary.. You still did good with the Ent F gosh.. took out that ship. 🤔😳😂 ''Q.. generosity!?'' oh my gosh lol. Yes I would say that to or the human factor.. notice, the Ent F held out good.. but yes that Klingon.. ship is a wicked powerful gun ship.. eehe. loved the battle Admiral. again you still did great.. ! But huh space dock is gonna ask question about the hull lol.😊🖖
I always liked using the Neghvar in online mode back when BC still have servers, just sit still and point your forward weapons at what you want destroyed. Its forward weapons were great. Only thing that could take it was either the Sovereign because it was vastly OP with the Kobayshi Maru mod or the Rhode Island, you get in close with that little ship and go to town
That was a close battle! Save that one for the archives. If only the Klingons upgraded their torpedoes?? I wonder if 2 Super Neghvars can defeat a Scimitar?
On the tabletop Starfleet Battles the Klingons had a ship with a weapon called a mauler device. I wonder if that weapon they Klingons fired at DS9 was a version of that.
6:32 I don't think that it was luck. The computer simply underutilizes the quantum torpedoes. If you pay attention to your first match you'll notice that you did a lot more damage to the shields.
Would have reduced the closing speed on the first pass with the Negvar and focus on the deflector dish. Possible on the first pass you could have destroyed the deflector on the Enterprise making it easy pickings
The funny thing is that the Odyssey is meant to be the post-Dominion War explorer - NOT a battleship. So the Klingons got schooled by a ship that was technically not a warship.
This was a true battle of the titans. Say what you want about Klingon starships, but even against a much more advanced foe, the battle was almost too close to call, which is seriously impressive. Had it been Chancellor Martok in command, the Super Negh'var would have won, both times with room to spare.
I haven't kept up with these Star Trek Battle simulators, but isn't that "Klingon Super Negh'Var" the same thing as the Klingon B-10 from the old Star Fleet Battles board game?
this ship is so weird, like if the Enterprise E and the Grissom had a kid, its a very weird design, and I cant help but imagine it with the Premonitions upgrade ontop of it and I cant say I ever cared for it as the F, but it did deserve a better send off, like Admiral Sheer Fing hubris is the commander, and shelly the second, she survives and the ships disabled, and she helps 7 take out the signal amplifier ships that are controlling the borg from Jupiter after bording the out of date friggate they were using that way both teams are doing something useful and I still cant believe that is the G, or the OG, it just seems so small, like I thought, why on earth is the federation now using an Okinowa class as the flagship when the restored, now made into a battleship D is right there and they still need to explain how THAT came back, like that story was so clunky and had so many missed beats, like it kinda felt like star trek 3 in a sense where it was written backwards and ment to meet certain beats without really explaining or flowing into it proper, and that's coming from someone who liked the movie and they still have yet to explain what happened to the E, and imagine how much it would have explained the enterprise D's sudden strength boost if jordi after Worf's comment about the phasers showed him its salvaged warp core from the bridge now powering the D's second star drive with maybe some of the people who made the set running around tending to it as a thank you cameo for all the work they did to bring it back as I can fully picture worf and jordi going, do you feel better now worf? now we have a chance with everyone grinning in agreement, as until the D opened fire like it did, everyone in the audience was like oh Great its gonna be weak and taken out super easy again and now we're just left wondering how is it so strong and manueverable now lol like atleast put in a line saying in order to get it off the planet he had to upgrade all the thrusters to make it so maneuverable now in addition to all the changes done after the loss of the Oddesy and the enterprise D to the galaxy fleet that way its loss and ressurection ment something to the dominion war, and its final fight with two galaxy's taken out by fighters and maybe explain that the point of it being restored was that it was supposed to be revealed at fronteer day as a symbol of the federation going back to being a peace keeping operation, rather than a war waging one only to have it save the day one last time, heck they could even tie in the Titans sudden name change with something like they were gonna finally retire the enteprises name or something that way it coming back means something, like picard is giving the send off to the enterprise name with that speech he's supposed to give, only to have them reverse the decision after the D saved the day once again
Ok what about choosing a side you think would in and be in that cloaked ship throughout the entire battle of Galaxy Xs. The Riker Powerful Galaxy X vs Dark Galaxy X from Hell. This may take the computer some time. So i don't expect to see the whole video. Turn collisions on wanna see some computer bashing. So put the battle in the correct mode for it. I more thing every type of Galaxy ship. 1 of. Verses the borg. Enterprise Galaxy. Dauntless Galaxy. Dominion War refit Galaxy. RGB Galaxy. Galaxy X. GalaxyXhell. Dark GalaxyXhell. The 8 warp nacelle Galaxy. Rikers powerful Galaxy. If you can think of anymore different types get 1 of them in also. If they beat the standard borg. Try the tactical cube. If they win that then goto the 29thC borg.
So 🤔, in any battle in Star Trek universe... Why is all weapons focused in front? If so why not design the most fantastic multiple shields layers ever known in front! Or.. design ship more like Borg cube with weapons multiple targeting in all directions at once like a ball evenly absorbing damaged no matter what attack angle?
Hey......i just realized what Q said to Picard's son Jack at the end of season 3. "Humans, your linear thinking of time", or close to it. Picard's trial on TNG was never about him, but rather about Jack. Q ended Picard's trial just when Jack's was about to start.
I think a huge travesty was that the Odyssey Class was so short lived.. they gave it the ambassador treatment … both ships that fans want more of ..
Kurtzman was basically like: So I heard you like the Enterprise F, here's 1 minute of it, now enjoy the Titan A/G.
i guess they turn that around and destroy the G in the pilot and then take the F back from the dry dock.
It would have been cooler if they made a tv show with the shangra’la class, I feel like that is where that ship belongs.. in the TMP era
@@kindasupersonic7114 I agree, as cool as the Titan-A/Enterprise-G looks, it kinda clashes with the era's aesthetics.
@@PKPhoenix83 well at least it was in STO. it was great they brought it in to canon
Another fantastic videos always! Now to be a backseat captain steering the ship, if I was in command of the Neghvar I would’ve started off targeting the impulse engines. And then I would hang back and play call of duty sniper, and just camp and let my big guns finish them off. The Q clip was the cherry on the cake ! Well done sir!
You'd think by now someone would've come up with the concept of a shield that absorbs incoming phaser energy and transfer it into the shielding itself. The more hits it takes, the more it can take
That was the Battle of the Lumbering Whales. Those ships hated turning!
it's a zero Gravity environment, this should only be limited by the RCS thrusters!
The USS Enterprise F was too damaged to go to warp. Ensign Retro Badger was forced to get out and push!
🤣🤣🤣
3:46 Forgive me, my RBGegent, but perhaps the moment has arrived to remove your august presence from the battlefield! 😜
Need to see the iks Bortasqu as that is the true F rival. Even has an auxiliary craft as well
Whew...that was CLOSE!
Pretty close. Probably would've been closer if the computer had used more than one volly of quantum torpedoes in that last round, ut good job to both sides.
After the first fight, the boys at Jupiter station are gonna be pissed 😆.
The mistake that the Klingons made was keeping their bow pointed at you at all times.
Otherwise, you were seriously outgunned.
I was holding my breath... I thought you were both gonna blow up. 😄
The enterprise F having 18 type 12 radiolytic phasers, would make its phases 3x stronger than a galaxy class, that’s not including the extra turrets, launch platform, or torpedo launchers, simply put, it should do just fine against the Klingons from earlier (though I realize the super edition is not a Star Trek ship theme in general, at least to my knowledge, but I’ll assume it’s at least equal to a standard version, in which case the enterprise F wins)
It would be cool to see all galaxy classes with armor on it in battle with the cardassain kessok hybrid
If this Negh'Var really is meant to be the one from DS9, then it isn't a "Super Negh'Var", it is just the IKS Negh'Var, as the ship in that episode was the IKS Negh'Var. All other speculative weaker Negh'Vars, which we have no canon evidence are actually weaker than the class namer, would be, like, Lesser Negh'Vars or something, but arguably they shouldn't exist anyway.
😨Jeepers Admiral.. gosh.. that Negh'Var is insane and scary.. You still did good with the Ent F gosh.. took out that ship. 🤔😳😂 ''Q.. generosity!?'' oh my gosh lol. Yes I would say that to or the human factor.. notice, the Ent F held out good.. but yes that Klingon.. ship is a wicked powerful gun ship.. eehe. loved the battle Admiral. again you still did great.. ! But huh space dock is gonna ask question about the hull lol.😊🖖
Thanks Steve 🖖
@@RetroBadgerGaming You are always welcome mon ami.. .. Retro-Badger aka Admiral.. Bienvenue.. en tous temps.. lol 😊🖖
Retro on the Enterprise F deployed that extra layer of armor that the Odyssey has. Plot Armor
Your videos are always well thought out and well executed.
Thanks 🖖
I always liked using the Neghvar in online mode back when BC still have servers, just sit still and point your forward weapons at what you want destroyed. Its forward weapons were great. Only thing that could take it was either the Sovereign because it was vastly OP with the Kobayshi Maru mod or the Rhode Island, you get in close with that little ship and go to town
I'm curious to see a Borg cube vs an asgard O'Neil class
That was a close battle! Save that one for the archives. If only the Klingons upgraded their torpedoes??
I wonder if 2 Super Neghvars can defeat a Scimitar?
Ty for the video and LLAP!
I love to see the the Enterprise with pulse phasers like the Defiant. An a Lance Phaser with the Weapons Pod.
Next time ask the borg for help they know how to drill through hull!
Dam u almost got taken out at the end ....
She (The F) stopped firing Quantums for a long time, that definitely gave the SNegh'Var an easier time.
Fantastic battle!
Thanks 🖖
Shields and hull were so low, in the first fight, I thought the Super Negh'Var exploding would finish you 😂🖖
I love the inquiry class starship
Nice vid! Are you able to possibly have a battle with a defiant and a valdore?
Here for the F !!! She seems very slow in this battle compared to her in other battles you have done.
Why is the Odyssey so sluggish? It’s a step above a Starbase 🫤
The Odyssey in BC has always felt severely undertuned IMO
@@randomdrifter Gotcha, I was expecting to hear ICEBERG STRAIGHT AHEAD!!
You should do retro, the flagships of the alliance vs the Dominion battleship, hutet and do the breen have one?
Damn this was a close fight, the "Clash of the Titans"
I wonder who win a fight between the Flagship Neg'Var or the Yorktown Dreadnought?🤔
You mean the Lexington? Or the standard Yorktown?
@@TheKalZul
The Lexington thank you
@@RegBeta Then the Lexington, no doubt. It's a refit odyssey-class with the Galaxy-X treatment on top.
First battle have be double ko 😮🎉
That F is sloooooooow! Plus the Admiralty will not be happy with you :)
Great vid badger... how bout 3 sovereign refit against this monster?
On the tabletop Starfleet Battles the Klingons had a ship with a weapon called a mauler device. I wonder if that weapon they Klingons fired at DS9 was a version of that.
6:32 I don't think that it was luck. The computer simply underutilizes the quantum torpedoes. If you pay attention to your first match you'll notice that you did a lot more damage to the shields.
Wow, glad I'm not the helmsman on an Odyssey class. The chief engineer needs to install a few hundred RCS Accelerators.
They need competitive rep engines as well
Would have reduced the closing speed on the first pass with the Negvar and focus on the deflector dish. Possible on the first pass you could have destroyed the deflector on the Enterprise making it easy pickings
Just goes to show that a good Capt (you in this case) can make all the difference. You turned a Kobyashi Maru into a win!
The funny thing is that the Odyssey is meant to be the post-Dominion War explorer - NOT a battleship. So the Klingons got schooled by a ship that was technically not a warship.
What about the super Neghvar against Rikers powerful Galaxy X.
But what i would like to see is The Dark Galaxy X from Hell against the Super Neghvar.
This was a true battle of the titans. Say what you want about Klingon starships, but even against a much more advanced foe, the battle was almost too close to call, which is seriously impressive. Had it been Chancellor Martok in command, the Super Negh'var would have won, both times with room to spare.
Which of These do you prefer.
The inquiry, odyssey or Vesta class?
I haven't kept up with these Star Trek Battle simulators, but isn't that "Klingon Super Negh'Var" the same thing as the Klingon B-10 from the old Star Fleet Battles board game?
I wonder how that would fair against a Kessock hybrid they used to be quite spicey back in the day and are there any is the gorn ships
Super Negh’Var vs Reman Scimitar?
In a close battle, the AI will lose.
this ship is so weird, like if the Enterprise E and the Grissom had a kid, its a very weird design, and I cant help but imagine it with the Premonitions upgrade ontop of it
and I cant say I ever cared for it as the F, but it did deserve a better send off, like Admiral Sheer Fing hubris is the commander, and shelly the second, she survives and the ships disabled, and she helps 7 take out the signal amplifier ships that are controlling the borg from Jupiter after bording the out of date friggate they were using
that way both teams are doing something useful
and I still cant believe that is the G, or the OG, it just seems so small, like I thought, why on earth is the federation now using an Okinowa class as the flagship when the restored, now made into a battleship D is right there
and they still need to explain how THAT came back, like that story was so clunky and had so many missed beats, like it kinda felt like star trek 3 in a sense
where it was written backwards and ment to meet certain beats without really explaining or flowing into it proper, and that's coming from someone who liked the movie
and they still have yet to explain what happened to the E, and imagine how much it would have explained the enterprise D's sudden strength boost if jordi after Worf's comment about the phasers showed him its salvaged warp core from the bridge now powering the D's second star drive
with maybe some of the people who made the set running around tending to it as a thank you cameo for all the work they did to bring it back
as I can fully picture worf and jordi going, do you feel better now worf? now we have a chance with everyone grinning in agreement, as until the D opened fire like it did, everyone in the audience was like oh Great its gonna be weak and taken out super easy again
and now we're just left wondering how is it so strong and manueverable now lol like atleast put in a line saying in order to get it off the planet he had to upgrade all the thrusters to make it so maneuverable now
in addition to all the changes done after the loss of the Oddesy and the enterprise D to the galaxy fleet
that way its loss and ressurection ment something to the dominion war, and its final fight with two galaxy's taken out by fighters
and maybe explain that the point of it being restored was that it was supposed to be revealed at fronteer day as a symbol of the federation going back to being a peace keeping operation, rather than a war waging one
only to have it save the day one last time, heck they could even tie in the Titans sudden name change with something like they were gonna finally retire the enteprises name or something
that way it coming back means something, like picard is giving the send off to the enterprise name with that speech he's supposed to give, only to have them reverse the decision after the D saved the day once again
Does anyone else notice that Retro almost never gies for sensors unless it's by mistake?
Qapla'!
Why was the E-F so sluggish?
Why are there so few battles lately? Is everything alright?
@chrishoekstra393 all good thanks! Just been busy with work etc! Should be back to normal next week :-) 🖖
can someone please tell me how to go to warp in BC- Kobayashi Maru?
If you go to Kiska on the bridge, there is a button for in system warp. You can also use Emergency Warp and even set a course for a different system 🖖
Ok what about choosing a side you think would in and be in that cloaked ship throughout the entire battle of Galaxy Xs. The Riker Powerful Galaxy X vs Dark Galaxy X from Hell. This may take the computer some time. So i don't expect to see the whole video. Turn collisions on wanna see some computer bashing. So put the battle in the correct mode for it.
I more thing every type of Galaxy ship. 1 of. Verses the borg. Enterprise Galaxy. Dauntless Galaxy. Dominion War refit Galaxy. RGB Galaxy. Galaxy X. GalaxyXhell. Dark GalaxyXhell. The 8 warp nacelle Galaxy. Rikers powerful Galaxy. If you can think of anymore different types get 1 of them in also. If they beat the standard borg. Try the tactical cube. If they win that then goto the 29thC borg.
So 🤔, in any battle in Star Trek universe... Why is all weapons focused in front? If so why not design the most fantastic multiple shields layers ever known in front! Or.. design ship more like Borg cube with weapons multiple targeting in all directions at once like a ball evenly absorbing damaged no matter what attack angle?
Us the real enterprise g agianst it
Hey......i just realized what Q said to Picard's son Jack at the end of season 3. "Humans, your linear thinking of time", or close to it. Picard's trial on TNG was never about him, but rather about Jack. Q ended Picard's trial just when Jack's was about to start.
It's pretty unrealistic that any Flagship would fight alone. They are typically surrounded with support ships of every kind.
Such an ugly ship
Well now we know why she was decommissioned.