Not a stupid question -- but to answer you, we learned from testing that grenades actually scale off the weapon that is currently out, and swords do a bit more raw damage. This is also why the hardest hitting grenades would be coming from stealth then dropping Caltrops as it automatically switches to the 2H crossbow while dropping grenades from Opportunists aspect.
@@pichapao5337 Oh ok thanks for the quick & clear answer ! I've been having a lot of fun using wudijo's grenade build from maxroll, but I'm new to diablo so there's just so much I don't know ! Thanks again & good luck on your next push
@@yallia6197 The difference is probably marginal at best -- and Daggers may feel a lot more comfortable due to the attack speed. If you already have a good pair of daggers with the correct tempers, I'd say stick to it.
Thanks! Still experimenting. For this run, I took out points on the following: 1. Siphoning Strikes x1 2. Stutter Step x3 3. Innervation x2 Then, I placed 6 points total to Dark Shroud tree towards Countering Dark Shrouds (4-1-1)
@@pichapao5337 Thanks man, try to upload uber bosses if you get time that would be dope! I did andariel and duriel, andariel is a little harder specially at the end duriel was ez pz, lilith is very hard tho...
@renancampos7947 Since the damage is not coming from the hits from the weapons, it doesn't get buffed With regards to uber bosses, I'll have a go probably after maximizing my offensive pieces.
Good for elite groups, but very bad for bossing. You need the stars aligned to activate the buff when the boss gets staggered. Then you'd probably need to move CDR on the amulet too since the build works so well with high enough CDR.
For the most part, it allows me to tank better, yeah. It's better than the other options I tried. It also helps me trigger shadow imbuement so I can spam evade and activate stealth via Lethal Dusk. For Vulnerable spread-- it is not the only source for it on the build, honestly. Fundamental Puncture, Subverting Concealment, and Blended Shadow Imbuement are also sources for vuln.
I used it at first-- but switched it out for another ring with tempered affix and an Aspect when I hit a wall at around T70, and noticed I was doing more damage without it.
Do you think there is a way to male poison flurry with andaries visage viable for endgame pits? I got one with grear afix attack speed. Im dreaming of using this build
There might be a build posted soon with Puncture/Flurry with Andariel. Watch out for Xarrio, Diablo 4 content creator. He has already done something before, and might be looking to improve on that build in particular
Feels incomplete, huh? 😅 It helps me see the dangerous effects on the floor, but it does feel empty. I've since turned it back on and will remain on on future uploads.
It varies I should say. Grenades from Opportunists deals around 30-40M with spikes reaching 60M at times. The other Grenades explode for some 10M+ On my latest T105 run, I've turned the damage numbers back on. You can check that out as well.
Legend.
The only one crazy enough to suffer the Pit on melee haha
Bro is a menace 😮 can't be stopped!
Tier 101 using FLURRY!? What a beast.
Technically I'm scaling grenades but thanks! Hehe 😅
@@pichapao5337respect for playing a “off-meta” build that is sound. True theory crafter.
Definitely a like here! Always liked meelee rogs. It's too bad that Blizzard doesn't like them...
Thats fucking awesome
Nice run, congrats ! Might be a stupid question but wouldn't daggers be better for the build ?
Not a stupid question -- but to answer you, we learned from testing that grenades actually scale off the weapon that is currently out, and swords do a bit more raw damage. This is also why the hardest hitting grenades would be coming from stealth then dropping Caltrops as it automatically switches to the 2H crossbow while dropping grenades from Opportunists aspect.
@@pichapao5337 Oh ok thanks for the quick & clear answer ! I've been having a lot of fun using wudijo's grenade build from maxroll, but I'm new to diablo so there's just so much I don't know ! Thanks again & good luck on your next push
@@yallia6197 The difference is probably marginal at best -- and Daggers may feel a lot more comfortable due to the attack speed.
If you already have a good pair of daggers with the correct tempers, I'd say stick to it.
Wow that's crazy, what about skill tree? The planner is not updated... GG on pit 101!!
Thanks! Still experimenting. For this run, I took out points on the following:
1. Siphoning Strikes x1
2. Stutter Step x3
3. Innervation x2
Then, I placed 6 points total to Dark Shroud tree towards Countering Dark Shrouds (4-1-1)
@@pichapao5337 Thanks man, try to upload uber bosses if you get time that would be dope! I did andariel and duriel, andariel is a little harder specially at the end duriel was ez pz, lilith is very hard tho...
Also a little question, Weapon mastery is not good here?
@renancampos7947
Since the damage is not coming from the hits from the weapons, it doesn't get buffed
With regards to uber bosses, I'll have a go probably after maximizing my offensive pieces.
Thanks for sharing.
Looks really cool. And tanky.
How about adding temerity? The barrier could make it even more tankier
That's another option -- and also use Conceited in place of Elements. Just that I have not found a decent Temerity to test it.
have you tried godslayers crown? groups them up pretty good. thoughts?
Good for elite groups, but very bad for bossing. You need the stars aligned to activate the buff when the boss gets staggered. Then you'd probably need to move CDR on the amulet too since the build works so well with high enough CDR.
question why do uou have alot of points in dark shroud but not utilizing dark shroud skill? currently workin om this build right now too awesome man
With Umbrous Aspect -- you wouldn't need to have Dark Shroud on your skill bar, provided you have a Marksman skill to help proc it
@@pichapao5337 ahhh ok thanks mann
Why do you still use flurry ? It's only fort heal and spread vuln ?
Thx for the video, i miss melee rogue so much...
For the most part, it allows me to tank better, yeah. It's better than the other options I tried. It also helps me trigger shadow imbuement so I can spam evade and activate stealth via Lethal Dusk.
For Vulnerable spread-- it is not the only source for it on the build, honestly. Fundamental Puncture, Subverting Concealment, and Blended Shadow Imbuement are also sources for vuln.
@@pichapao5337any room for Unstable embuement ? Volatile shadow ? Quickenig Fog ? Smoke grenade ?
Maybe in low tier ? I need some fun !
Nice! Are u using the unique ring with this build?
its crazy, he shows the build and has a build planner in the description
I used it at first-- but switched it out for another ring with tempered affix and an Aspect when I hit a wall at around T70, and noticed I was doing more damage without it.
@@pichapao5337That’s Blizzard’s game design for ya. Imagine a dedicated grenade unique that’s easily outclassed by aspects xd
Do you think there is a way to male poison flurry with andaries visage viable for endgame pits? I got one with grear afix attack speed. Im dreaming of using this build
There might be a build posted soon with Puncture/Flurry with Andariel. Watch out for Xarrio, Diablo 4 content creator. He has already done something before, and might be looking to improve on that build in particular
Cool buils but i wish u showed numbers
Feels incomplete, huh? 😅
It helps me see the dangerous effects on the floor, but it does feel empty. I've since turned it back on and will remain on on future uploads.
@@pichapao5337 haha, it might sound superficial but i like seeing them. makes it feel more satisfying to watch & play
@@dannystalford5029 I agree with you 💯 haha
How mut h damage with one grenade ? I dont see any numbers bro
It varies I should say. Grenades from Opportunists deals around 30-40M with spikes reaching 60M at times. The other Grenades explode for some 10M+
On my latest T105 run, I've turned the damage numbers back on. You can check that out as well.
Solid. do you prefer Close quarter combat or Victimize ? thank you for Rogue content.
Close Quarters Combat by far. Was only coping early with Victimize but it didn't pan out.