Mavericks blow out T-Wolves 124-103 in Game 5, is Luka the NBA's best player? | FIRST THINGS FIRST
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- After a 124-103 Game 5 road win, the Dallas Mavericks eliminated the Minnesota Timberwolves. Nick Wright, Chris Broussard and Kevin Wildes react to the Mavs' big win, then debate whether Luka Dončić is the best player in the NBA or not.
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I like y’all but wish u weren’t Liberals 🤮
Nick had the Lakers in 6, Wildes had the Nuggets conquering the Universe and Brou had the Wolves.....full circle
Chris is out of his freaking mind to say that clay and Steph is better than Isaiah and Joe dumars. You have to think about the era. And which one of them is going to guard Isaiah. And Joe dumars was lethal. Both of them have finals MVPs
@ajmyers145 they are not even aware of your existence 🤣
This is what a true gentlemans sweep is. Win 3, let them get 1 to avoid embarrassment, then win game 5
@moose4ku440 What about the double gentlemen’s sweep? 😆
Well said
They should have just taken the sweep. That was embarrassing last night
It's called a "gentleman's sweep" because the gentlemanly thing to do is not end a team's season at home in front of their fans but typically the higher seeded team is the one sweeping, so game 5 would be at home.
It’s almost like Luka told Anthony Edwards “it’s ok, we’ll let you get the next one bud” when he was talking to hin
love when Brou pulls out the thesaurus to share with us how last nights game made him feel
Crestfallen was a nice word tho.
@@Alkaliteyeah I definitely Googled it as soon as I heard it.
Idek how to spell dofleven 😂 or whatever the last word was
Haha this gave me a good laugh
@@twiss9341 usually you get a good laugh over something you cannot argue, thus are wrong and are laughing it off to make it seem like you dont care, have a great day
Nick is the only media guy that gave Luka his credit all year
Nah Tim Legler also did.
Paul Pierce
Shannon Sharpe
Legs is the only one who gave Luka his flowers all year.
Leggs and brousard as well... nick lost faith when kyrie joined him
Chris Brousard be reading the dictionary before every set. 🤣
And he’s reading the brou and Nick’s fan fics
Crestfallen?
@@snirest means: disappointed and sad because of having failed unexpectedly
Chris Brousard ‘reads’ the dictionary before every set. 🤣
@@d-nice5960
I actually knew that 🙂🤷🏻♂️
KD must be like wtf, Kyrie
The nets owner sabotaged them
Forget about KD, if Kyrie didn’t act up and stayed with LeBron he would have like 4 chips by now
@@patrykgadek5503yeah that’s cap… 2 at the most… nobody was beating the warriors without injury …
@@patrykgadek5503 I really think they would've won 2015 if he and Love weren't injured.
who's kd blaming for his situation in phoenix?
This was a battle through the west OMG, If Luka and Kyrie get this ring this will be a Legendary run
*Brou:* "When I saw Luka hit this shot"
~FTF doesn't show us the clip~
*Me:* "This is why I need Hoang Bi"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
rhat mfrrrrrrrrrrrr filling up my suggestions then giving drawingessons half way through 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
Even with the kids origami!
With the arts and craft 😂
a man of culture
Luka is a bad man a soul snatcher
Woah soul snatcher???
You have taken this too far 😆
It’s true.. not too many in that mold.. Curry - Kobe - Mike - Bird.. he’s in that lineage.. not saying “the next [whoever]”.. but those dudes won’t even give you hope.. they don’t play with their food.. he’s like that..
He let TWolves fans know they wasted money on those tickets in the first 2 minutes lol..
@@gbmbg114tried to sneak Curry in.. dude can’t make the playoffs without 2 all-stars 😂
@Rickle_Pick23 .. I debated putting him in there.. I’m not a curry super fan or anything.. but during those couple of early years when he started really cooking, he’d give you a barrage of 3’s and it really demoralized the other team before they knew what hit ‘em..
I’m not arguing for all-time status or greatest players or anything like that.. just the mentality of “I’m taking all of your hope and I’m not gonna think twice about it..”
If you wanna take curry off the list, that’s fine.. but I did see that from him for a few years..
A true gentleman would've given them 2
1 is given. The second one, they have to earn it!
Luka definitely not a gentleman, he swung on KAT then had the Mavs jump Ant and headlock Gobert 😂
@@Smashball987cope
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Smashball987 You're talking like he's draymond flagrant green right now
Give props to j.kidd he got this one
Doleful: expressing sorrow; mournful.
"a doleful look"
Your services are very much appreciated.
Not all heroes wear capes 🫡
The “gentlemen” bit kills me every time. I hope to see it next season as well 😂
After Wolves took down the Nuggets, its definitely a shock to see how the Mavs have steamrolled them 4-1....have to give the entire Mavs squad and Jason Kidd especially credit
Well maybe the T-Wolves did the MAVS a HUGE favor by beating the Nuggets for them.
Matchups
Denver beat themselves and lack of bruce brown finally caught up with them in game 7. Wolves’ offense was never going to win the chip. I think celtics beat them too. They did mavs/celtics a huge favor
It's a matchups league. What Minnesota does well made it tough of what Denver wants to do. That same style doesn't work against Dallas because they play a lot differently. It's the teams who adjust the best that make it all the way. Minnesota beating Denver didn't mean much if they couldn't adjust to the next team.
Matchups... mostly. Wolves deserved that win but I doubt it will happen again in the upcoming years.
Can you guys discuss whether Kyrie will have a better legacy than KD if he wins another championship
100%
KDs decision to join the 73-9 warriors will forever tarnish his legacy
@@spoop3074 going there wasn’t a mistake, not staying was the stain.
Historically, I doubt it because finals MVPs, league MVP, all star selections and all NBA teams all go to KD
@@savantedrakeford7976I agree he was in a lose lose with going, he would have no championships if he didn't go and basically be a better Carmelo but understand the bad taste in people's mouth when you stack the deck like that. The only way you best that is bu staying and winning another 1-2 championships to make that above reproach and being around in the down turn which shows you are there for the team
"I was crestfallen...woebegone...doleful even"😂😂
The big 3 of sports talk. Keep this group together💪
Giannis “isn’t a great scorer” but yet has averaged 28+ on 55%+ from the field since 2018
He definitely worded it wrong. But I get what he means. Giannis isn't that fundamentally sound on offense. He doesn't even have a good post game. But what he lacks in fundamentals he makes up for in athleticism and height. For instance, his ball handling isn't that great...but he is tall, fast, and can jump. He can normally get by with not dribbling too much. But if they were to line them up and do a skills challenge he would for sure come in last place lol.
He also scored 50 points in the Finals which is rare. People forget that
Same with Shaq. In his prime years, he was an automatic 28 to 30 pts per game. But his offense was mostly dunks, put backs, bulldozing his way inside the basket. 10 to 15 fert away from the basket, he is harmless as a fly. And if you put him to the ft line, expect him to miss half of his ft attempts.
@@user-mp7bi5mv8q but what I will say is that Shaq had at least mastered the post game. He had it all. The baby hooks, footwork, and everything. It's just when that didn't work he also just knocked them over lol. But Giannis isn't a master of anything. He's just above average at a few things coupled with being a really good athlete.
It even took Lebron years before he got a pretty good post game. So Giannis will eventually master one of them and probably get better over time.
He doesn’t do hesi tween step backs so he sucks according some people. Seriously they want a guy built like AD to play like Kobe for some reason.
kyrie has really found a place that appreciates him.. whether he scores or not
Wrong. Every team would appreciate having him their roster, and would do anything to make him feel special, but not every team could pay what he deserves, or build a roster that could reach the Finals. The problem in the Nets, was front office being dumb, and instead of building around Kyrie and KD, bringing good role player to complement them, decided to went all in on Harden, and after that Ben Simmons, I mean...
@@rubendacostaesilva8442 What happen in Boston? Had he not be so selfish he could've had (at least) 2 extra rings right now.
Nick giving Luka his flowers, atleast someone in the nba media (yes nick has always said how great he is, just saying that he is the only one other than legler saying it)
What do you mean? Nick always root for Luka
This nothing new for Nick lol where u been at
Yeah but then he hates jokic when he won finals MVP and the chip etc.
@@mr.nerdguy7822 i know i didn't say anthing against that
Doesn't matter now when all world know but they spit him same like Joker same people all years not just one year but from moment come in NBA
No way jrue or Derrick white are remotely big enough to pick up luka in the finals, mavs in 6 come on
They'll be guarding Kyrie. Brown and Tatum will be on Luca
@AyoJayArr nah they are gunq put jru3 on luka and maybe brown and white on kyrie and
Celtics In 5 unless the refs save Luka
casual, saving this reciept
@mattys38 you still got the receipts from the Celtics’ last finals appearance too? 😂😂😂
Jokic and Giannis' careers are so similar. If one is in the discussion then the other has to be. Jokic is better offensively, Giannis defensively. Giannis' offense is closer to Jokic's than Jokic's defense is to Giannis', but offense tends to be more important than defense. I'd take Jokic, but pretending it isn't close is stupid
You are correct. Giannis is closer on offence but offence is more important. Both of them healthy, its really close.
However, you have to take availability into account. If Giannis isn't playing, he is giving 0 on offence and 0 on defense. And that creates a separation where there should be slim to none.
I think giannis have really slow down too much in the last 2 years he needs to bring the physical game back
@@AnkitKumar-zr6fn True, his reliance on physicality does make injuries much more of a problem, and he's gotten hurt at bad times the last couple seasons. Giannis really needs a healthy postseason and another good run to stay in the conversation. I can't make myself put Luka in yet with no rings and no mvps, but the talent is there.
@@donpetazaragomatuta9988 We'll have to see if Giannis' injuries continue to be a problem or are just unlucky timing. He actually played more regular season games than Luka...but the regular season availability doesn't count for much lol
Giannis got destroyed in FIBA, when he didn't get the whistle. His lack of bag really hurts him when defense forces him to take shots that he doesn't make. That doesn't happen to Jokic.
Luka gets the nod over Jokic because Jokic has to have Murry to win tight games, Luka can do it on his own. That's the 1% that makes him better than Jokic this year/currently
Nick Wright = Lord Farquad
😂😂😂
I’m pretty sure Nick is like 6 ft tall lol
I have to hear Lord Farquaad's ending schpiel coming out of Nick's mouth for confirmation...
Long live the King
😂😂
6:28 - This is the most honest & introspective take I've ever seen from Nick.
Admitting you were late to noticing how good another player was, while also admitting you held Luka to a different standard takes humility.
Now if only he could do the same for QBs in her NFL he was wrong about (Josh Allen/Brock Purdy) 😅
Luka should have won MVP. He was the best player, his team still won 50+ games, jokic had a better team and won the individual award.
Kyrie is better than anyone on Den outside of Jokic
I feeel like either Luka or Jalen Brunson or SGA shoulda won
Yep.. I think one underrated point was that Denver had a shot at the #1 seed.. they kinda choked it away and Jokic was a big part of that.. they might still be playing if they had grabbed the 1 seed..
Meanwhile, Luka navigated a lot throughout the season.. and turned in a lot of memorable and spectacular games, while going 34/9/10?? After Embiid went down, i thought Luka really separated himself
@@gbmbg114 how you gonna blame Jokic for “choking” away the 1st seed? The future GOAT Victor Wemby showed everyone a glimpse of his greatness. You can’t blame Jokic on that.
The voters act like 34 9 and 9 just grows on trees like wtf?!!!
I seriously can't stand the argument of Giannis not having the skillset of other guys. So what! He averages 30! And he just became the first person to do it on 60% shooting! Why is that not more eye popping for people?
Brou has gone through that several times. He believes Giannis can be stopped by building a defensive wall. Jokic and Luka cannot be stopped by a simple move like that, because they can shoot.
After Giannis recent leg injuries and also spending a season with Dame time I think he gonna be more focused on shooting the ball better, that would make him best player in the league hands down
@@danieltatum4262 Jokic is now playing better defense than Giannis, so Giannis would have to turn into Steph, if he wants to be hands down the best player.
Giannis is also the only player that’s allowed to take 4-5 steps everytime he drives to the basket lmao
I hate the Giannis conversation. Brou is doing the entire "Who I saw play last time", you wanted Jokic to force the ball and shoot? then you dont want Jokic; Giannis is not skilled and that's why he lacks behind? Go tell that to Shaq 25 years ago. What are we saying? Giannis should be in that discussion, he is not a shooter and still gives you 30+ points a night and top 2 defense in the league, what good is having better shooting if it doesnt impact scoring? you can take him down a bit for it but his defense more than makes up for that.
It's a triple tie, and it's so close that if Luka becomes the champ he deserves that title, just like Giannis did, just like Jokic did.
He will am sure! Joker get MVP bcs last year Luka will get champions and I think MVPsame like Joker last year and next year Luka will be MVP
Losing 3 straight home games in a playoff series is nasty work.
We gonna ignore the fact that Kyrie didn’t make the Olympic team
Yes. Because it has nothing to do with basketball, the powers that be decided he's cancelled
Man F’ck that sh’t. Im trying to see luka and kyrie go off for 3 rings
Yeah it’s a joke he should be on there all day
Don’t know why we’d bring that up in a discussion abt them heading to the finals/Luka potentially becoming the best player in the league but sure, it could’ve got a shoutout I guess
We got Jrue Hoilday 😂😂😂 SMH how did Jrue make the team
Lukas was a work of art with that step back he was like a scoring machine not human 😊
Mavs had a pretty hard path to the finals. Celtics had one laced with opponents injuries. The Celtics need to prove themselves this year or no one will ever believe in them again
FAX 📠
Since the trade mavs have the best defense in the league, great shooting team and two of the best offensive players ever. No excuses for mavs or Boston.
That's why Mavs will win. Mavs are battle tested against #4 #2 #1. Celtics played lower seeds with super stars out on every team. And Celtics play alot on 1v1. Dallas fixing to feast on D on time. Dallas in 6.
Celtics had the most wins in the whole NBA this season
@@datkito so did the suns and they lost to giannis in the finals
when i hear that best two NBA players are Jokic and Donkic i cant believe what am hearing greetings from Balkans
What’s really cool is Giannis is Greek. So the league’s top 3 are from the Balkans.
How are you surprised? You should know better, since you're from there! 🤣 Yugoslavia has a disproportionate number of great sportsmen, across sports, if you go by genes: Djokovic (tennis, most accomplished sportsman ever, in my opinion), Ibrahimovic, Modric (football), Doncic, Jokic, Popovic, Obradovic (basketball), Pogacar (cycling), Karabatic (handball), Perkovic (throws), Vlasic (high jump), WATER POLO. Even Sakic in ice hockey and Bellichick in American football!
You'd have the best team in every sport, if you were united and had a population comparable to USA (~200 million).
Well there can't much discussion about it. Results, stats and attitude don't lie. NBA is by far the best League but in the last 15 years European basketball has step-up with it's own ecosystem, the way it views and adapts basketball, its practice and the way the game is/can be played. Ofc Jokic and Donkic talent is something special (far removed from most European players, and the Balkan region always produced great Basketball talents) but i do think that one of the best things to have ever happened to European basketball was the creation of EuroLeague and tbh the way FIBA has been handling all other competitions. It is not as grand as the NBA (and probably will never be) but it is a legit ecosystem and environment for people to become superstar players by their own right!
@@Yon_Jon5715 dude, Ibrahimovic is from Sweden.....
@@alessioraccagni3753 I said GENES.
This is the first time Luka have a good team builded around him.And he's in the NBA finals.+Mavs didn't have the advantage of the home court in any of these series in this postseason.And stil,they've eliminated every team without playing game 7 in any of these series.Think about it.
And every team was better than the Mavs
They just has the best player in the NBA
@@JorgeReyesMD And an NBA champion, 8xAll Star and the most skilled ball handler ever in Kyrie
I don't care what anybody says im the biggest micheal jordan fan ever but man i do like luka i have never seen a player who can pass and score with his skills and its not only that but his smart IQ plays and its like you have the best point guard ever with the best scorer ever in the same player and he is clutch at the same time a killer just like that jordan mentality talking smack and blowing out teams single handedly.
Yeah that's why hes the best player in the league hes the best player ever offensively and people either hate and don't want to admit it or they have 0 ball knowledge like all these analysts Luka is Kobe and Steve Nash in the same person but 6'7 his footwork is elite post game elite etc. Jokic lacks handle and scoring versatility Luka's great at everything
@@SK99900 agree 100% I played basketball and I am actually a basketball coach as of now and i am telling you i have never seen a player like this the passes he makes looking one side and passing to the corner and those stepbacks are really hard to make its crazy what he is doing
Jokić is close
@@mohammedaltamimi7386 Yeah Luka is 1 of 1 that's why he will win the championship in few weeks and FMVP and also Mavs will go b2b next year 77 is destined to go down as the GOAT they finaly put a proper roster around him i said in 2020 just put a proper roster around him and he will win you a championship every year
Facts. He is the closest player to Jordan since Kobe. They talking about ant because he can dunk and look like he can play defense 😂 man only talks when he's up. Luka talks all the time. Mf was trash talking before his first shot attempt in the wolves arena saying it so loud everybody could hear
Where is the gentleman music and whiskey?
When Bru said, "I'm drinking pop", that made it clear to me he's from the Midwest. We say pop here in Michigan.
Yeah, he's from Ohio (mostly, lol). 😊
Step and klay are not the best backcourt when you are comparing them to this. Luka is significantly better at every aspect of the game then curry besides shooting 3’s and its actually not even that far off because luka is far more clutch from the 3. Luka by himself is also better than klay in every aspect of the game besides shooting and man to man defense. Then I haven’t even mentioned kyrie.
My favorite sports commentary show, by far - well done, fellas!
The fact is Jokic can never do himself what Luka did. Scored 20 in first quarter unassisted.
Brou tripping. Yes Giannis can't shoot so did Shaq and that didn't stop him from being the best in the league.
His style of play is based on his athleticism and after he won hist 1st championship it went downhill for him. Recent years he wasnt even fit for the playoffs.
Broussard is clearly a Giannis hater
You didn't listen to his take, and still call him a hater. Giannis can be stopped. Luka and Jokic can't be stopped.
Luka is the playoffs leader in ppg rebounds and assists!
That’s mind blowing 🤯
The way Kobe gets left out of the best player conversations is disrespectful af. Dude owned, was the face of the league, and captain of the redeem team in the 2000s.
It’s a fact that Kobe is the greatest player of the 00’s. I think Chis was gon add Kobe but Nick wright cut him off
Brou is a big Kobe hater always try’s to slight him
Exactly! Kobe was voted the 2000-10 player of the decade.
He's not a top 10 guy. Captain of a US team that should always win doesn't mean much. He's one of the poster buys for hype and marketability but just statistically wasn't THAT good. Tim Duncan deserves mention ahead of Kobe
@@Sotanath86q Yet the team that should always win but Lebron and Duncan took bronze in 2004 and 2006 weird
Kobe has just much a case for No2 all time as any one
To modify a quote from moneyball “if Jokic is a better scorer than Giannis then why doesn’t he score better?”
He doesn't have to. At least, when he gets sufficient support.
Because he doesn't dominate the ball and gets his teammates involved.
@@josiahmontiel5663didn’t go well when his team shot around 20%
JOKER MOST BALL DOMINATE PLAYER IN NBA GIANNIS IS BETTER PLAYERS THEN JOKER BOTH END CHRIS HATE GIANNIS...NICK IS FAIR MEN GIANNIS LAST 6 YEARS 3 YEARS GIANNIS 3 SCORING CHAMPS 2 YEARS EMBIID 1 YEARS LUKA ACCORDING CHRIS BRAINDEAD STUPID GIANNIS IS NT OFFENSIVE PLAYERS JOKER OR NBA PLAYERS NEVER EVER DOMINATED LIKE GIANNIS DOMINATED PLAYOFF WHEN GIANNIS LET BUCKS WIN CHAMPIONS U CAN SEE CHRIS YELLOW BOY HAVE DEEP HATE FOR GIANNIS JOKER IS 29 YEARS OLD IN PLAYING IN NBA MORE THEN DECADE NEVER AVERAGE HIS BEST YEARS AVERAGE 26 POINTS PLAY TIME AVERAGE 43 MINUTES PER GAMES GIANNIS WORSE YEARS AVERAGE 27 POINTS PLAY TIME 30 MINUTES IMAGINE IF GIANNIS AVERAGE 4O MINUTES PER GAMES GURANTY 40 POINTS 15 REBOUNDS 10 ASSISTS GURANTY
@jaden5843 absolutely 💯 . But give him kyrie and the league is over.
Chris always hates on Giannis. How is he not going to include defense and just include offense?
He did include defense. You hate Chris.
@penkima4923 No, he didn't. He defense doesn't matter as much as offense. So, if you include defense, Giannis is better.
@@wilsonmatt781 You're not paraphrasing accurately. Brou said that despite of Giannis' better defense, Luka and Jokic are so much better on offense, that they are the superior players, overall.
@@penkima4923 and Giannis is far superior on defense. So that doesn't matter?
Brou is the Goat of synonyms 😂😂
This might be the greatest sports talk show in recent sports history
I had to look em up🤣🤣🤣
Crestfallen : Sad because of a recent disappointment
Woebegone : Feeling, showing, or expressing deep sorrow, grief, or wretchedness
Doleful : full of grief : cheerless.
Just for the curious one, didn't even know how to write them
When luka decides to close a series...😮. Luka beat the wolves down and then lets his team play
I completely agree with Nick here... its clearly a 3 man race right now.
Giannis is at 3, cause he didnt have any PO success lately, Luka at 1, because of PO success and one of the greatest statistical seasons ever. Can you name another 33/9/9 season in NBA history... I help you, you cant! Luka created the most points EVER (points + points of assists) in the NBA this season on top of that. Ad the injury riddled season the Mavs had (153 missed games by 15+ MPG rotation players, Denver 49, OKC 39) and how the team looked when healthy (Ended the Season on a 24-7 run... one game behind Boston in that timespan) and its clear as day who shouldve won MVP.
The difference between those 3 going forward: Luka 25, Jokic 29, Giannis 29
So Luka should have the edge over the next 4-5 years. But I agree, at some point (if he stays healthy) Wemby will most likely take over. Will it be in 3 years, 5, dont know. But that dude is the only guy I can see winning 5 MVP's and 5 DPOY's over his career... like ever!
Brou’s argument about Giannis and Joker is silly
I’d still give best player in the league title to Jokic but i’m not mad at anyone for backing Luka in that convo
Jokic is not 3rd in scoring lmao. Nick needs to break out that t-1st stat he used for passing which is also incorrect. Jokic clears as a passer.
Jokic is definitely a better offensive player, I don’t think Nick’s categories did him justice for the floor spacing and versatility he provides. But for a ‘scoring’ category you kind of have to give the nod to the guy that actually scores more. The drop off in ppg from Giannis to Jokic was the same as the drop from Jokic to Cam Thomas this year
@@ethangildone865luka is OBVIOUSLY the better passer. What was jokic doing at 25?
Luka is easily the better passer @@ethangildone865
Luka is a great passer. Jokic is just better. Remember Jokic's usage rate is like barely top 20 but averages more assists. Scoring wise, I think Luka is more explosive and Jokic is clearly more efficient and inevitable. I'd give Luka the edge but saying Giannis is 2nd is just travesty.
Brou is so full of it he won't admit he was wrong about the T-wolves
Another playoff season of prisoners of the moment on TV...
That "uh oh" by bru killed me,😂😂😂😂
Shaq had pretty much the same flaws as Giannis, yet we have no problem saying Shaq was the greatest from 2000-2004.
But Shaq got 3peat
@@marcelschild931exactly. Cant beat 3 chips with 3 fmvps
Difference is that the game was different back then. Having an outside game wasn't important for them
But Damian Lillard is not Kobe Bryant
@@marcelschild931The argument was in 2000, Shaq had no accomplishments/accolades yet was in the conversation. Giannis is taken out of the conversation yet has them. My wording wasn’t clear
Discounting Giannas is crazy for his skill when not only can he be the best player on offense but he’s a dpoy. He’s the best player when healthy .
And that's never
@@bogoljubdjordjevic7528 he’s only been hurt probably twice recently since he won the ring unfortunately.
He’s not the DPOY player anymore those days are gone.
You guys break things down so well while still remaining highly entertaining. I love the expertise you guys bring.
This show and trio is up there with the greats fr
Put that respect on giannis 🫡🦌
Good mix of Brous and Wildes gimmicks 😂
Thanks again Brou!
One of the best objective analysis vids in a while, phenomenal
wolves fan thought they were going to make the greatest comeback ever and write history 🤣
No, they didn't. Perk is probably the most biased Wolves fan there is, and even he didn't think the Wolves were coming back.
Jokic has never beaten a 50 win team and Luka’s current road to a championship is the 3rd hardest of all time
Doesn't matter if numbers and logic tells us that 2023 Denver beats every team that season
@@brookyohannes109 idk bout that. They could’ve gotten bounced out vs the Wolves first round if Naz Reid and McDaniels weren’t injured.
The Mavericks have been favored in every series, though. It might be the 3rd toughest solely based on regular season wins, but let's be honest... this hasn't really been a gauntlet. The Thunder and Timberwolves especially exceeded expectations and didn't have the experience to go all the way. Plus, the Clippers didn't have Kawhi for pretty much the entire series... and even if they had him, Dallas still wins.
@@RonnySwankInjuries happen every playoffs Nuggets wudda beat every team last yr in 6
Jokic played better than Luka this playoffs. The only reason Luka is beat Minn and Jokic didn’t is because Kyrie was 27ppg on 50% and Jamal Murray was 19ppg on 40%. If Jamal Murray was on Dallas instead they f Kyrie Mavs get swept this series
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Keep it coming 😭 I Love it
he is the best player in the league and if dallas looses against the celtics that alone doesn't change a single thing
Based on what exactly? His 40 percent from the field?
It does if he loses don’t lower expectations for losses but not for Ws
you have to factor in usage rate when you mention the stats jokic isnt even top 15 in usage and is putting up these number with that pace if he was to have same usage as luka he would average almost 40 and have 10+ assist while getting 13 rebounds.
some reason people fail to mention that when talk jokics stats -___-
Thank you! This is even worse when mentioning Embiid, who was taking 39% (!!!) of his teams shots... ~6% clear of prime Jordan! (Not to mention the fact that Jokic seemingly doesn't get any free throws.)
It has been a joy watching Nick's large adult Slovenian son grow up right before our eyes.
I be dying every time brou turns in a thesaurus 😂
Giannis Is Nowhere Near As Good As Jokic
I offense Yes in defensive is the other way.
Giannis getting pulled from these best player conversations is WILD to me.
He is injured from play, and he's injured from talks.
Saying Joker a better scorer than Giannis is insane 😂😂
Respect to nick for admitting he was one of the people who didn't think Kyrie and Luka would work
Giannis has averaged more points than Jokic for 3 years, but Brou is saying "he can score more if he wanted" is disengenious. I can use that argument for literally anything.
worth noting is that jokic doesnt habe another all-star on his team and his teammates (for the most part) shot horribly in the minnesota series
honestly, he’s the best. That team is full of 2 foot guard you can’t dribble, and only he and Gordon have heart.
Great takes by this panel!!!👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I like how SGA basically disappeared from the conversation.
The problem with the Wolves esp Antman talks a lot...sign of immaturity. Wolves lost 3 home games in the WCF...Didn't happen before .Embarassing
He’s also disrespectful and arrogant as he said “nothing” when asked what he could learn or build upon from this series ending loss. Didn’t even shake hands. He’s the AAU kid nobody likes
This is the second time I have heard brousard use the argument that jokic is a better defender than luka cuz of his size. I think his size is exactly why he is a worse defender cuz he plays the 5(most important defensive position arguably) and is bad at it and imo if you are a bad defensive center you are more a liability than a bad defensive guard cuz you are supposed to defend the most valuable shot which is a shot at the rim.
Ask Denver are they crazy bcs pay him so much if he not good he will be on bench he is better defender then Luka no question but most don't see how he play defence in offense nobody can come close to him
Depends on roster construction . Because he definitely impacts defense more and say he had an athletic rim protecting 4, it fit better.
@@Dr.J42 he does have an athletic rim protecting 4 lol what do you mean
@@bogoljubdjordjevic7528 yeah no
@@Dr.J42 AG is exactly that. I am talking about in general. So lets say he played with KG. Does that make him a good defender cuz KG can hide him better.
This is literally the best show on TV I love you guys so much ❤❤❤
A can... Of Stella?
I didn't even know they sold that 😂
Definitely no gentleman's drink!
There's was 4 year stretch where Shaq was the best, then a few years later Kobe had 4 years or so as the best player. The years in between those two reigns as the greatest player were between Shaq/Tuncan/KG and then eventually Kobe came up the list and then surpassed them all.
Shaq was the best player in the league at one point why cant giannis?
Giannis isn’t as dominant in the postseason as Shaq. I can argue that Luka and Jokic are better Playoff performers.
@@henryix9229Giannis has the best playoff series performance and best finals series performance out of all three of them. You guys just say stuff lol.
Shoutout Overwatch getting mentioned on First Things First 🤣🤣
Bird won a chip in his second year at age 24, with a rookie Kevin McHale.
They beat a STACKED Philly team with multiple HOFers.
Bird did it first.
Brou is so right, idgaf how many ppg Giannis averages, offensively Jokic is farrrrrr better than Giannis.
He is far better offensively. He also is further worse defensively
I was disappointed in the Mavs 3rd quarter nonsense
Wym?
Oh shut up they won
@@spiderfan324 they stopped trying and let the wolves to get back in the game
@@jaqdax2401 facts they let the wolves come back and win by 21. Smartest basketball fan out there
Bruh if you are 30-40 points in the lead .. there is no coming back..
So why play hard and get injured also why waste energy....
if luka and ant switched teams mavs still win in 5. these games arent 1 on 1. role players matter
Yep, it's a team sport.
To not give jokic style points on passing in nicks lil thang is criminal
It's still Joker rn. Let's try a scenario...switch Kyrie and Jamal Murray. If it was Luka and Jamal, there is no finals appearance for the Mavs. If it was Joker and Kyrie, then we'd be seeing that Denver dynasty.
Truee
You sound too confident for someone who’s whole argument is “what if” lol you have zero factual basis for your assumption that Luka and Murray wouldn’t make it lol you people are so dumb man 😂
Is Nick really saying he was early on Luka? Man Luka came into the league with HUGE expectations. If your ever looking for a best ever just watch one of these shows you'll get a new one every time.
Only thing about that list is the game is way different now and only offense. I would like to see the old stats adjusted to how the game is played now and then see
Minus points to Nick for not working the air piano like Wildes during the music.
Luka been the best y’all just didn’t wanna admit it
Luka is the best and his game proved it last night.
Just because Luka plays with an all-star, doesn't make him better than Jokic.
When Luka is wearing a cap, he looks like the guy that comes over to paint your kitchen.
And then after 9 months you got a step brother 🤣🤣🤣
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Joker still best player in the league. He balled out no one else showed up
no one cares though lol
I kinda agree with both Nick and Brou. Denver slipped hard this year, but in the upcoming years it's going to be Luka vs Joker cinema WCFs. And whoever makes it out of the East.