What does fibrosis feel like and how to treat is for lymphatic massage therapists

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  • Fibrosis and swelling how to video - let's play with different types of materials and relate them to the stages of swelling and fibrosis after liposuction.
    Watery swelling, putty swelling, lumps and bumps, pitting edema, fibrosis.
    What type of massage can treat swelling and fibrosis after liposuction? Check out fibrosis massage videos here: Plastic Surgery Recovery and Fibrosis Massage - plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage...
    Find out more information on compression here: The biggest contributor to swelling and fibrosis - incorrect compression. Learn about compression - plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage...
    Self-massage videos for liposuction fibrosis on the arms, legs and abdomen that you can use in between your regular lymphatic massage visits plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage...

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  • @brianespinola5429
    @brianespinola5429 Рік тому

    Awesome ! I need to pick up a set

  • @user-cm3dt6ox6w
    @user-cm3dt6ox6w Рік тому +1

    This was a great example of fibrosis. Thanks for explaining makes more sense.

  • @veronawarburton9503
    @veronawarburton9503 2 роки тому +3

    This is absolutely informative, thank you Kathleen🙏🏽

  • @greenjeans7504
    @greenjeans7504 3 роки тому +8

    “I’m old. Get off my lawn.” Cracked me up.
    Kathleen, thank you for all the info you’ve shared. My MLD class with Nicola is in Aug, San Diego. Looking forward to this work.

  • @misstretre
    @misstretre 3 роки тому

    Super helpful, thank you!

  • @jerigabbard6825
    @jerigabbard6825 Рік тому +1

    SLIME, my granddaughter makes her own from scratch! So the kids have a recipe for it! Lol! I love your reaction to it, priceless! 💖

  • @jerigabbard6825
    @jerigabbard6825 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this, great way to explain it! ❤️

  • @eveschannel9781
    @eveschannel9781 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! Thank you

  • @heyhey5368
    @heyhey5368 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for sharing your knowledge 🌟🌟

  • @NycBeauty
    @NycBeauty 2 роки тому

    Very informative ❗️ Thanks

  • @alexisrogers4612
    @alexisrogers4612 Рік тому

    This really helped me!

  • @nancyfasolino7607
    @nancyfasolino7607 2 роки тому +3

    I love this! Great idea to show what it may feel like, I just had a client who had nodules and called it fibrosis in her lower abdomen after lipo 2 weeks I felt like it was something else.

  • @proletar1660
    @proletar1660 9 місяців тому

    I've had gynecomastia around 3 weeks ago and I have fibrosis. My surgeon recommended me 4 specific massage therapy sessions. The removed glands and fat occupied a massive space and I didn't have abnormal discharges. This helped me more, thanks!

  • @mabelle334
    @mabelle334 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks 😊

  • @reneegao9755
    @reneegao9755 Місяць тому

    This is an amazing video, thank you so much

  • @corlahasper234
    @corlahasper234 3 роки тому

    Thank you

  • @painswellingsolutions6273
    @painswellingsolutions6273 3 роки тому +2

    Great video! I use the soft plastic packaging material that is similar to styrofoam to show fibrosis. It's soft, but resistant. Also, easier to show to people without making a mess. ;)

  • @aqueen4006
    @aqueen4006 3 роки тому +1

    That’s funny , you said you don’t think this slime should be sold because it gets everywhere !!! HHhHhHaaahahH I feel the same way my daughter played with it once and it got all over.. never again I love your videos. So informative!! Thank you.

  • @luciamatos5815
    @luciamatos5815 Рік тому +1

    Hello- I' m 2 weeks post op lipo 360, what's the best techniques/ tools you recommend that i can do myself to help reduce fibrosis? I feel hardness around my abdomen and lowerback but im already getting massages. Thank you so much

  • @miriamespinoza3766
    @miriamespinoza3766 2 роки тому

    Thank you 🙏 your knowledge has been so helpful to me

  • @adrianq1
    @adrianq1 3 роки тому +1

    Had a small incision to remove a small cyst on a much more uh “sensitive” area down low and I am 18 days post incision and have developed a firm lump directly under where the incision was made. I believe this might be at the pink puddy stage that you described? Could I be doing heated oil massages onto it already down there as well? Thank you.

  • @clairestanton31
    @clairestanton31 2 роки тому

    How soon after lipo surgery (side obliques) with a TT could you cup (silicone) the "putty" currently just using Vodder MLD to treat, great content thanks so much 🙏

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому +1

      I don't do traditional chines cupping. I will do lymphatic cupping starting 4 days after surgery. Find out more here: plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage.teachable.com/p/lymphatic-and-fibrosis-massage-cupping

  • @TesaSilvestre
    @TesaSilvestre 2 роки тому +3

    Greetings. I loved this "map" of different kinds of fibrosis. Can lipedema-related fibrosis be worked on in the same ways as post-op fibrosis? I am curious about whether you have you used these techniques on women with lipedema (who have not had any surgery) and noticed a reduction of fibrosis?

  • @jolenemerrick8924
    @jolenemerrick8924 3 роки тому +4

    You don't think it should be sold. Lol!!!!!😅😂 I have 2 kids and they got slime stuck in their hair and we had to wash out with apple cider vinegar for 2 hours. Lots of tears. I was laughing outloud.
    Great videos! I have lumps and bumps and fibrosis and it is devastating after wanting a different result. Thank you so much

  • @stelamoric5481
    @stelamoric5481 2 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this! Can one have hard fibrosis one week post op? My therapist did an extremely painful pressing to soften the tissue. Is this correct?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому +4

      you can feel hard, but it's not fibrosis. I use MLD and gentle myofascial techniques to soften. No need to hurt the client or press that hard.

  • @ThatWitchandHerMan
    @ThatWitchandHerMan 3 роки тому +2

    I am 3 1/2 weeks PO and according to this video I do have fibrosis in my chin.

  • @katc9405
    @katc9405 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you😍
    can one's body produce fibrosis just after 1 week? if not, then what is all this hard, rather large areas (obliques and lower abs) that i have?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому +2

      No it is swelling

    • @katc9405
      @katc9405 3 роки тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson can i purchase your class or just buy the book?

  • @katc9405
    @katc9405 3 роки тому +1

    Is HD lipo less aggressive than regular or more?
    Can i purchase your class to watch anytime or is it an actual class that is live?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      Yes the book is on amazon the classes are online here plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage.teachable.com/p/home

  • @jordanwashington2643
    @jordanwashington2643 2 роки тому

    I’m 2 weeks post op I had a bbl 360 and my belly is getting flatter but it is hard and lumpy and tender all around my lower back feels so tight and my sides has a lump and my lower belly is completely hard and lumpy I been compressed since I came out of surgery and I stopped draining so much 2 days after my surgery and I didn’t get my drain out till 9 days post op and massages hurt

  • @superarmygirl1
    @superarmygirl1 3 роки тому +1

    How soon after liposuction do you suggest getting a massage?

  • @sophia2845
    @sophia2845 2 роки тому +1

    what does fibrosis feel like to the patient inside the body does it cause a heaviness or pressure ?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      That’s a great question you can ask your patients in the future. Mine say it’s a tight feeling

  • @luscious_unicorn
    @luscious_unicorn 2 роки тому +1

    I think I have fibrosis at 17 days post op hopefully I can reverse it

  • @shaym578
    @shaym578 Рік тому

    Your reaction to the slime is priceless 😂😂

  • @LD-gu2uo
    @LD-gu2uo 3 роки тому

    I am 6 weeks post op of from smart lipo on abdomen, i have developed lumps and bumps all over, I have one fist sized ball too, can lymphatic massage help me? Thank you!

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      When was your first massage and how many have you had? Did your surgeon recommend massages?

  • @esphoria
    @esphoria 3 роки тому

    Which one do you recommend for the neck area? The finely napped, ribbed or coarsely napped?

  • @LLSZXYY316
    @LLSZXYY316 3 місяці тому

    I’m at the start of week 3 of chin lipo and told my doctor and she said I’m wayyyy too earlier to have fibrosis and it’s normal swelling

  • @carog7467
    @carog7467 3 роки тому +1

    For how long do you use the lymphpads?

  • @lajago1
    @lajago1 2 роки тому +1

    I just had lipo under my chin 7 days ago. I have a hard lump now. When I asked my surgeon he said it was dead fat that my body will absorb. Watching your video makes me think it is firosis. Is it too soon to have firbrosis since it's only been a week? I'm really concerned. Your videos are really helpful!

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому +1

      It’s not fibrosis it’s necrotic fat.

    • @lajago1
      @lajago1 2 роки тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson Thanks! Does massage help with that? I also see conflicting messages on this. Some say your body absorbs it, some say your body does not absorb it.

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому +1

      @@lajago1 yes specific types of massage will help the body absorb fibrosis.

    • @1teaheather
      @1teaheather 2 роки тому +1

      Laura did your lump get any better?

    • @thefunchum2302
      @thefunchum2302 Рік тому

      hello i have the same issue 8 days post op, can you pls give me update if it got better and what you did? thanks!

  • @katebrower9248
    @katebrower9248 3 роки тому

    Do you have a recommendation of a lymphatic massage therapist in Los Angeles

  • @ML-tn4ko
    @ML-tn4ko 2 роки тому

    Kathleen I'm 3 weeks post op but I see cording and almost right away there were these super hard spots that are not putty swelling. I have some the crackle, did you say that is necrotic tissue? I've been having these very hard spots that is close to the fibrosis putty, it seems even harder. The cupping helps but they are very stubborn. It's the hard to suck up tissue with large pores when i try to move the skin. But you said it's too soon so I'm a little confused what it would be. I've gotten more than 10 massages from post op MLD therapists and have been following your content and others...Can you recommend a good medi lymph pad?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      I don’t use Medi lymph pad anymore.

    • @aliciamartinez2827
      @aliciamartinez2827 2 роки тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson can I ask why you don’t use them anymore?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      @@aliciamartinez2827 people who saw my videos and used them incorrectly have bruising skin discoloration or blisters.

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      @@aliciamartinez2827 and Mobiderm came to the US market, it’s more flexible and can mold to the body

  • @elsaweisel5344
    @elsaweisel5344 10 місяців тому

    I have fibrosis as the last example. Had it from the very beginning. It was first as hard as concrete and then now like clay much smaller but still there. My therapist said it wasn’t fibrosis but fat…it was obviously fibrosis. I’ve tried everything and it’s still there

  • @pmymode
    @pmymode 2 роки тому

    What would you suggest fir fat necrosis of butt after BBL?

  • @kv1287
    @kv1287 Рік тому

    I still have alot of irregularities and some fibrosis from a 2020 surgery can I still get rid of it?

  • @tamikabrown1409
    @tamikabrown1409 10 місяців тому

    It's interesting cause everyone says something different. I'm almost 4 weeks out. Surgeon says it's fibrosis and is using some type of ultrasound machine

  • @user-gl2gp1zy8v
    @user-gl2gp1zy8v 10 місяців тому

    Is it okay if i use the castor oil for massages

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  10 місяців тому

      As long as you have used it before and you have no open wounds

  • @SnoopyInPink
    @SnoopyInPink 3 роки тому

    I’m 1 yr post op and have fibrosis in my tummy. Is there hope for me?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      It would be worth visiting a lymphatic massage therapist with experience in fibrosis

  • @georgiasmith4484
    @georgiasmith4484 3 роки тому +1

    Where are you located to schedule an appointment?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      I am in San Diego. I am only taking appointments from clients who are directly referred by their plastic surgeon

    • @esphoria
      @esphoria 3 роки тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson my plastic surgeon lives in SD but operates in Tijuana...would you take a referral like that?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      @@esphoria No. I'm sorry, I'm too booked up.

  • @kellymceachern4538
    @kellymceachern4538 Рік тому

    Are you talking about regular cupping for pitting edema?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  Рік тому

      No, ma'am. Lymphatic Cupping.

    • @kellymceachern4538
      @kellymceachern4538 Рік тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson thank you for the response! I am kind of disappointed for not doing more research into MLD trainings before jumping the gun. I got mine online through PESI they teach the vodder method and have the lymph clinic down in Miami. Seems like legit and accurate info but now I’m realizing how suggested it is to take in person so you can can feel different levels of lymph, fribrosis, etc 😩😭
      Do you happen to have any suggestions for in person trainings that are here? (Not the actual certification course but a brush up or the physical meet up to practice with other experienced therapists?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  Рік тому

      @@kellymceachern4538 usually in person trainings are comprehensive. I have a list of them here: plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage.teachable.com/

  • @hfox1203
    @hfox1203 10 місяців тому

    Would myofascial release work for fibrosis?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  10 місяців тому

      Here is my class : plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage.teachable.com/p/myofascial-massage-after-liposuction

  • @jiorleny26
    @jiorleny26 3 роки тому

    😩 3 wks PO tummy tuck and there’s so much hardening on the pelvic area is this fibrosis 😭?

  • @missminx6984
    @missminx6984 2 роки тому

    What is a lymphatic cupping kit? Silicone? If so what do u recommend

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage.teachable.com/p/lymphatic-and-fibrosis-massage-cupping

  • @tamarakurfiss4226
    @tamarakurfiss4226 10 місяців тому

    I'm 3 weeks po and my skin is crimping in a line across my abdomen. Is that fibrosis?

  • @margaritashorty929
    @margaritashorty929 Рік тому

    3 months post op and I have fibrosis could I use a cavitation machine

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  Рік тому

      You could, but please do research on if it was designed to improve fibrosis or not before giving someone $$& to rub it on you.

  • @sophia2845
    @sophia2845 2 роки тому

    and tightness?

  • @jojogogo3018
    @jojogogo3018 2 роки тому

    What are lymph pads?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      Please ask at your next lymphatic massage. If you are a therapist, you can take my class on foams and compression.

  • @cjocelyn3
    @cjocelyn3 Рік тому

    do you know anyone in the NYC area that is as good as you?

  • @missminx6984
    @missminx6984 2 роки тому

    Also what oil do u use for post sx clients ?

  • @evejones6105
    @evejones6105 4 місяці тому

    I have a swollen belly after liposuction it’s hard looks bloated always hard

  • @mariepalacios1691
    @mariepalacios1691 3 роки тому

    I have fibrosis on my legs after lipo

  • @thesauce807
    @thesauce807 4 місяці тому

    Are you in Los Angeles also??

  • @kellusa21
    @kellusa21 7 місяців тому

    U can’t do cupping on skin after Lipo

  • @SofiaReyes-zz7pl
    @SofiaReyes-zz7pl 11 місяців тому

    I feel the watery swelling but I’m 1 month since my lipo … I’m confused

  • @Rbeautiful4
    @Rbeautiful4 3 роки тому

    It's been 2 months since I've had inner thighs liposuction and I believe I have fibrosis. It feels like I have to water bottles between my legs

    • @rachelc142
      @rachelc142 2 роки тому

      I had inner thighs lipo 2 weeks ago and it’s really hard and swollen. So I come back home ask my Chinese massage give me high pressure oil massage, then my legs start getting softer and less stiff. Hope this could help you.

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      oh no!

  • @SheisOshun
    @SheisOshun 2 роки тому

    Can fibrosis go away with a second round of lipo ?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому +1

      Great question for your plastic surgeon!

    • @SheisOshun
      @SheisOshun Рік тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson one more question with consistent massaging of the stomach where the fibrosis is present .. can if decrease the fibrosis along with compression after those massages ?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  Рік тому

      @@SheisOshun please get a consultation with a trained fibrosis massage professional

  • @AsapQuellieGainz
    @AsapQuellieGainz 2 роки тому

    can a fibrosis be removed after 5 years ?

  • @AyaInanna
    @AyaInanna 3 роки тому

    There aren't any lymphatic therapist in my area but I am 11 wks and I noticed I'm still swollen right in my middle abdomen around my belly button. It just feels hard and tight. Is this fibro or is it just still Swelling? And it seems I look more swollen than when I was earlier along.

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      If you dont have access to a lymphatic massage therapist you’ll need to ask your surgeon directly.

  • @osamuedeidemudia2691
    @osamuedeidemudia2691 3 роки тому +2

    I have fibrosis all over my stomach 3weeks post op 😞

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      Check out the fibrosis self massage videos plasticsurgeryrecoverymassage.teachable.com/p/self-massage-for-fibrosis-after-liposuction

    • @carog7467
      @carog7467 3 роки тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson when are you opening up enrollment?

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      @@carog7467 This class is closed down. I only offer it to clients now.

    • @carog7467
      @carog7467 3 роки тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson 😔oh no.. I’m out of state..

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  3 роки тому

      @@carog7467 OK

  • @jessicalopez3959
    @jessicalopez3959 2 роки тому

    Michelle?

  • @makkcoop9660
    @makkcoop9660 Рік тому

    I really wish I could talk to you 1 on 1

  • @crazsilversc2884
    @crazsilversc2884 Рік тому

    What would it be if it feels like cottage cheese and it is like the muscles are all stuck together

  • @tifacola
    @tifacola Рік тому

    Break a green branch in half. That’s what fibrosis feels like to me.

  • @trounbyfire
    @trounbyfire 2 роки тому

    Welp i have fibrosis all over then

    • @KathleenHelenLisson
      @KathleenHelenLisson  2 роки тому

      oh no!

    • @trounbyfire
      @trounbyfire 2 роки тому

      @@KathleenHelenLisson only 5 weeks out, i can definitely feel the tunnelling on the sides and uppers abs are definitely more solid than not

  • @mauriceperron5769
    @mauriceperron5769 2 роки тому

    no demo is accurate . I disliked her voice.