Playing a 16rpm record on my Lenco B52
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
- Here's a little demo of what a (somewhat worn) 16rpm record sounds like on my Lenco
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Sounds pretty good for 16 rpm! Looks so unnatural at that speed, though.
It's extremely weird looking! You do get used to it very quickly though. I have no idea what this record went through but I'd say that 16rpm is definitely 'usable'.
This a Brazilian Music caled "Escuta" (hear it), rhythm is "Samba Canção"
Can I get a link to the song?
Sounds like Sleepwalk by Santo & Johnny!
Sounds pretty nice through my phone's speakers! I just bought a Spanish 16 rpm record with classical music, can't wait to hear it
They really don't sound too horrible indeed. Definitely limited, but good enough for some background music use :)
@@rollingtroll True, but I'll probably play it once and never use it again. For curiosity's sake I may buy a 7" inch 16 rpm with 10 songs per side, just to hear just how poorly it sounds lol
This video taught me about the 16 rpm record; I have since bought a 16 rpm record as well. I’m so glad I bought it and glad I found it for less than $30
You can get lucky! Mine were all under 15 dollars, except for a Milt Jackson one, which I think was 35:
www.discogs.com/release/4021524-Modern-Jazz-Quartet-Milt-Jackson-Quartet-Concorde
Canção boa de ouvir. E que belo aparelho! 👏👏👏👏
Beautiful
Very nice, and sounds surprisingly good. Thank you!
Yup, pity they stopped making them! Especially with modern record players it'd work great!
Useful for party background. Lovely song and sounds quite good.
16 rpm records were used in commercial background music. Look up the Seeburg 1000 background music system for details. Seeburg's 'Encore' system was similar.
There were 16 rpm records sold to the general public as well - often marketed as 'dinner' or 'entertainment' music. Effectively 'background' music, just with a different name.
Some of these records had over an hour of music per side. I have a collection of 16 rpm records, including a number of utterly 'generic' records (12 inch, 16 rpm, clear red in color), no named artists, songs, no arrtwork, not even a name for the company them made them.
@@xaenon I used to stream a Seeburg "Radio Station". Great to fall asleep to.
@@SO_DIGITAL I've collected quite a few of the records over the years. It's great stuff for the overnight shift. No commercials, nothing that'll get anybody mad, and non-repetitive.
for AM broadcasting is good
sounds excellent
Fantastic 👍
Fascinating!
Mesmerizing too :D
Some audiophile LPs were mastered at 16rpm.
Sure, half speed masters but you don’t want to play those at 16rpm 😁
Fun fact: Virtually all 16 rpm records were mastered at 33-1/3 rpm. This was because few companies wanted to invested in dedicated 16 rpm equipment, especially since you can make the same record at 33-1/3 rpm by just playing the audio source at double speed.
It’s Sleep Walk. I’ve only known the instrumental Santo and Johny version until now.
It is!
There is at least one current model of Hi-Fi turntable which has 16 rpm, that is Reed Muse 1C (their only model with that speed). Besides that there are a few DJ turntables with ±50% ultra-pitch, so basically those are able to play them, as well. But it’s interesting, that more and more new turntables get 78 rpm speed option, which nearly always requires you to change the cartridge, but 16 rpm is completely ignored, which would be more practical for some people.
@@mertonnephake to be honest, it’s not that hard to digitise 16rpm records at 33 and then interpret the sample rate a little lower to adjust the speed of the digital recording without losing much (if any) quality. Not many people are actually going to seriously listen to these.
That being said, the Reed Muse 1c to my ears is probably the best sounding mechanism I know. So if I could afford that I would happily play my 16rpm records on it 😁
@@rollingtroll I’ve done exactly that with a modern 16 rpm 7 inch record, but I think the method is not quite useable for music unlike speech. I also tried it for recording a 33 rpm LP at 45 rpm and then slowing it down, fixing the shift of RIAA curve on EQ, that sounded pretty good actually (it also had lower low frequency background noise as expected), but that played only 35% faster, not 100%. I think the issue is the frequency response of the cartridge and your pre-amp, amp, DI box or anything else in the path. Though they may go up to 25 or 30 kHz with a reasonable deviation, e.g. ±3 dB, anything above may be sound wrong, resulting in channel imbalance, that was the issue with my 16 rpm record, highs were significantly tamed down on one channel and it was not consistent, it simply didn’t sound good, of course it may be the pressing itself, but until I play it at correct speed, I can’t say that for sure. I know that Music Hall claims their phono pre-amps apply extremely accurate RIAA correction and that extends up to 80 kHz, which is not standard for others, who state it just for 20 Hz to 20 Khz range. ;-)
@@mertonnephake what I do know is that it works extremely well for digitising tapes. Couldn’t hear a difference honestly. But then I did record them in 192khz and then resampled to 96.
16 rpm has effectively been dead since \970, and most of the material that had been offered in that format is of little interest to the general public today. And believe it or not, it is a technical challenge to produce a turntable today capable of 16 rpm (it was only really practical with idler-drive turntables, and idler drive is also considered obsolete). The issue today is the motors they use in modern turntables and record players. It's tough to build a motor that is stable, quiet, and reliable over such a wide range of operating speeds that doesn't co$$$t a lot of money.
That said, I have devised a way to modify an inexpensive, modern turntable to operate at 16 rpm. You would have all the benefits of a light-tracking, MODERN magnetic cartridge. In fact, I have devised TWO practical methods for true 'turntables', though the models it would work with have to have some pretty specific features.
I'm also working on what I hope would be a conversion kit for smaller, suitcase-type players as well.
Just asking out of wonder. Aren't you supposed to use a special ultra microgroove stylus for the 16 rpm discs? Still sounds fantastic though.
Seeburg Background Music System used 16 RPM.
My childhood record player had this speed but I never found a 16 rpm record to play on it.
Discogs is your friend! I got six by now :)
I am 50 yo and to my aged ears this sounds decent enough to either ask myself as to how much of my high freq hearing got lost throughout the years or maybe if 16 2/3 isn't so bad as always said?
Me entero que los discos de 16 realmente existieron. El stereo que mi padre compró en 1962 incluía la velocidad 16 pero nunca hubo discos en Chile,, al parecer no dio resultado, nunca más se habló sobre ese nuevo proyecto discográfico.
Thank you for sharing. I am thinking of buying one. It sounds good because of your cartridge. What speakers and amplifier are you using?
That is literally the cheapest cartridge available but it does sound nice. You don’t hear the the speakers and amplifier in this video, it’s a direct feed into the sound card. So what you hear is the Lenco, then a simple analogis easyphono preamplifier and then it goes through a Mackie onyx 1640 into a native instruments komplete audio 2 interface. Speakers are tannoy srm10b and amplifier is a NAD 2100 but you don’t hear those in the video.
Seeburg Background records was also 16 rpm
Seeburg background records were 10" in diameter.
I threw away a old turntable in 2008 after my dad died and I regret it ( it was crap ) but it played 16 rpm never had a record on it . Do you have a better cartridge? to use as this sounds good for 16rpm
If your dad turntable is a good ones you should put a Philips GP422 on it
In Discogs, I found this 16 rpm records? I have difficult to find
Here you go: www.discogs.com/sell/list?format_desc=16+%E2%85%94+RPM
@@rollingtroll thanks my friend, congratulations from Brazil!
@@millerornelas8641 No problem! Hope you find some cool records :D.
The older talking book records were recorded at16 rpm.
Yup. Well into the eighties but I only am looking for music on these. Challenging!
I have an old record player with 16, 33, 45 and 78 with a collection of vintage records to go with it.
Got to love that! Do make a video 😌
Amazon available how much price
@@nasirbhati8834 ehh, this is 70 years old.
Remarkably good sound quality. I always thought that 16 revolutions per minute was only used for the recordings of political speeches of dictators in far away countries. And now Jazz as it seems. Now search for even lower revolutions per minute.
8 exists. But I don’t have anything to play them on. Would buy though, can always downsample them
Ha! Why the cheap-o cartridges??????
Because they are actually quite good, better than many other cartridges under 100 euros. Also it’s not like 16rpm is an audiophile experience 😁
Thanks for filling the gap in my knowledge. Obviously, it was more commercially viable to run them faster. The quality of sound is good, compared to the 78s I do remember. Most classical symphonies could have fitted on one side. What a shame they went out of production. ❤️🎵👍
they are pretty sensitive though, with their thin grooves. And a well treated 78 sounds much, much better. Still, when used correctly there's quite a bit of use to these.
Music starts 1:30
They are coming back 16rpm records😅😅
Are they?
Arm weight extra yes no
@@nasirbhati8834 Never.