In a recent video - cannot recall which - the creator pointed out that none of the masters of photography ever shot for bokeh. Subject isolation was always done with other means. Light, position, elements in the photo.
Appreciate the info, let me know if you ever find that link, I'd like to check it out. My favorite Lindbergh photo I'm convinced was taken with a very shallow depth of field. It's a group shot of some supermodels in an alley. They're all wearing leather boots and hats with motorcycles. It's an easy google search. I'm curious to get your take on wether that was a shallow depth of field or just lighting/positioning etc. That picture alone made me move from the 2.8 to the 1.9 lens. I kept thinking that I'd miss out on such a powerful shot opportunity with a more limited depth of field
I had the decision to make just before Christmas on the X2D, SL3 or GFX100 II and I ended up with the X2D.... it's not small and light (especially with my favorite lens, the 80mm 1.9) but the image quality is second to nothing. My friends SL3 just doesnt' stack up, and the Fuji needs too much post processing to get the color correct. That said, you're right there are fewer good fast lenses for this camera.. my next lens will be a 20-35 likely, considering the wider angles and the large sensor, it will behave very much like a fast lens does.
Good choice, I don't know enough about the SL3 yet but definitely X2D > GFX in my book as well. Imagine if Hasselblad made a ~35mm f1.7 ----- The new zoom + the 80 is a solid kit. One of my favorite things about the 80 is simply looking at the glass. That front element sings when it's reflecting all the nearby light across it.
@@WILMORENO I feel you man, that 3.5 number is just off-putting but the glass in that lens is top notch and as someone who has the 50mm f/0.95 Noctilux for my M11, yes, that .95 inspires me to get out and shoot... but I can also confirm that this 80mm 1,9 gives the same exact vibes, keep the X2D and don't look back.
Hey Will, Have you considered the SL3? It's not as small as an M, but paired with the SL APO's you're going to get the separation I think you're looking for, plus insane sharpness. And even though it's not the Fastest AF in the world it is better than the Hassy. Plus you can adapt all of the M lenses to them easily and they look even better on that sensor.
you know I hadn't even considered one til now. I don't mind the form factor and I know Leica makes a beautiful camera. I also started looking at their used medium format bodies but I should probably leave that door closed. I have a strong feeling that an APO lens is in my future. Thanks for the suggestion
@@WILMORENOit’s a smart move only because their new medium format solution is being released this year, so I’d wait to experiment with their MF till That comes out
100S II looks really promising, especially those who have been full frame for years ready to take the next step. Lecia SL2 and the 35 APO SUMMICRON for personal work and that combo is so special.
ha i forgot all about that. It was probably my biggest gripe at first. You're very right about intention. Also, I fond that shooting in b&w preview helped me better with my exposure (I only shoot manual). Couldn't explain why but I found to be true. Thank you
I use my M10M more than my M11M. The files are still just perfect from the M10M. I primarily have the M11M so I can use the Noctilux .95 wide open without having to use ND filters.I use my Sl3 with the SL50 Summilux if I need AF. Nice video and good luck on your choices. Really cannot go wrong with either.
It's interesting that you are choosing the 10 over the 11. Is it because they take up less space? I'd really like to try a noctilux. Is it sharp wide open? Or do you need to stop down a bit to get its best performance?
@@WILMORENO I find that the M10M just has a look to it. The 40 vs 60 also lets me hold it slower speeds if needed. The nocutlux .95 is sharp at the focus point. You have about 1/2" of depth of field. Just takes practice on a M to really get consistent hitting focus. The M lenses are also awesome on the SL3 camera as well.
I had the x2d and the 55v 75p sold everything it’s slow and you have black out screen/ viewfinder that really slows you down, now happy with Leica SL3 50mm apo sl lens and 50mm M summilux lens remember you want character in your photos I also feel that images converted in sl3 to black&white come out better then the x2d colors and medium format look is something you can’t get on the sl3 although the apo lenses do create that effect so do I miss the x2d yes and no I feel that im getting an advantage when using old lenses or let’s say the 0.95 it’s a cinema lens so happy with my decision.
Glad to hear from another person with hands on experience with both systems. I genuinely miss some of that leica magic so my wallet is probably going to take another beating. I've bought 5 cameras so far in the past 2 years, so I really need to settle down once I figure out this next move. Thanks for watching and your comment
I agree 100% with your lens options, which is why I shoot with the 24/1.4, 35/1.4, 50/1.2, and 85/1.4 on my Sony A7R5. I’ve thought a lot about getting an x100D, but there is no way to match my expectations for shallow DOF and pinpoint AF on the eyes compared to Sony with the lenses I mentioned. That’s why I decided to spend the money I saved for an x100D on an A1-2. This camera will have even better AF + open the door to wildlife and sports. I shot Leica for about 15 years (M6, M7, R9) and loved them. Leica was slow to digital, which s why I switched initially to Canon and now Sony. I can say without question that the Sony lenses I mentioned leave nothing on the table compared to modern Leica glass and improve on it in many ways. Would I love to have an M11 right now? Sure, the shooting experience would be the best, but the results would not compare favorably to Sony with the lenses I list. All the best.
Why anyone wouldn't want the option for more light...in the game of catching light is beyond me. Plus I personally prefer to have the lowest iso/fastest shutter speed possible. With these higher resolution sensors, any bit of motion blur/camera shake becomes noticeable. The X2D does have the best ibis I've ever experienced. Which is great if you the photographer is a little shaky, but still doesn't stabilize your subject. So faster shutter speed is still my overall preferred option. Thanks for sharing, and it sounds like you're locked and loaded for anything. If you could only have 2 lenses in your kit which two would you keep? As of today I'm thinking 28 and 85 could be my kit moving forward
The Hassy is amazing. I love my X1D2 but I’m currently selling it because of the block on using Capture One. I don’t like Phocus or Lightroom, plus Adobe have doubled my monthly subscription charge. I only went with Lightroom because of the Hasselblad. I just bought an M10 and feel at home again. The colour science is also good, like X1D2. I like the rangefinder focussing and found the (older) X1D2 autofocus very slow (often hunting). The images from the Hassy are a little better, but I enjoy using the Leica more and happy to go back to Capture One.
I hadn't even considered cancelling adobe for capture one. Everyone seems to prefer capture these days. I appreciate this take because you probably just changed my entire workflow for the better. I had an X1D2 as well and yeah it just couldn't cut it as a main camera. Definitely too much hunting. Thanks for your comment
thank you very much. I just looked at your website again. Very inspiring work. I especially like the surfer portraits, but the whole gallery is exemplary. I gotta step my game up
Thanks, I hadn't even thought of the SL3. Just did a brief scroll through the SL3 and availabile lenses. Honestly, it looks like a really good option. f2 seems to be the limit for most available lenses. But if that's the only downside, it looks like a solid contender Thank you for this recommendation
right! I used to have the mindset that if I couldn't get the colors right, I'd just switch it to b&w. So tons of leica shots ended up b&w, which works for leica beautifully. On X2D colors just feel right. They really nailed it. Oddly, b&w usually looks a little off. Can't put my finger on it. Thank you for watching & commenting
I feel you. I have both and I can't bring myself to sell either one. I think of them as different instruments for different applications. Leica is awesome for that buttery shallow DOF and character. Hasselblad is great for insane performance and that medium format goodness (colors are a moveable feast if you shoot RAW). I've shot the 90 and the 80 and I can confirm that the 90 is sharper; I got the 90 by pure luck and it's my go-to for anything portrait. The DOF difference is minimal given that the 90 is more telephoto. If you have a chance, try the 135 from Hasselblad; it's one of my favorite lenses ever. If you really love B&W, the M11 Mono is also a killer. I shoot it for my personal/family work. Nice video and good discussion.
I have shot a lot with Leica and now use the X2D and 20-35, 25v, 28P, 45P, 55v, 90v, 120mm and 135mm. For a "Waffle House" situation, I wonder if the X2D/28P combo would have been fine and relatively discreet. The 80mm is gigantic and soooo heavy (25v feels much smaller / lighter). I sold the 80 when I moved to the 90v, which is an amazing lens, and I have no regrets. Don't forget f/2.5 on a medium format camera is like f/1.8 on a full frame camera in terms of depth of field. I get the temptation to go back to Leica, though, and sometimes think about picking up a M10-R and one or two lenses just for that shooting experience and the unique and tiny lenses offered in M-mount. Finally, don't forget you can adapt M lenses to the X2D - some lenses work better than others, such as the 50mm Summilux (wider M lenses tend not to work as well, I.e., don't cover the whole sensor so you have to crop). Good luck- all good choices!
@petermendelson5839 yeah the 28p could work, I had one when they first released. But something about it didn't warm up to me at the time. Adapting lenses would be nice but the readout speeds also made it a non starter for me. I did some electronic shutter tests and the banding/warping was too much to work around. Also a lot of Leica people claim the m10r is the last leica made. Maybe we should both get M10R's with black paint
Ha! That's an expensive fact. With the M11, 1. it kept freezing (I've heard new firmware fixed this). 2. I kept the visoflex II & grip on it 100% of the time. Sizewise it became comparable to all the other cameras. And 3. I wanted the option to have af in some scenarios. Mainly portraits & my pups. After using x2d and gfx for a couple years...I scrolled through my old lightroom catalogue and found I was more a fan of those leica shots overall. Unless it came to landscapes. I'm going to say the X2D is the best for landscapes to my eyes
@ obviously you do. I just did a tour (3 months) with only the X1D2 for clandestine photo reportage. The hunting, especially in low light, drove me mad. Actually it’s quicker to manual focus on an M. I realise the X2D has improved auto focus though.
@@ChrisWhittenMusic yeah they finally added face tracking even though it's still single point instead of servo. I got pretty good at manual focusing on my M and your point does still stand. There's been plenty of times on many other cameras where the AF missed focus even thought it confirmed. Clandestine photo reportage is probably my favorite scenario other than landscapes. Do you have a gallery anywhere of your shots?
@@WILMORENO Most of the shots since September are Hasselblad. The 65mm lens goes down to f2.8. I tend to shoot between f2.8 and 5.6. So hard to nail focus below f2 IMHO
If you sell the Hassy, you will eventually regret it. I'm keeping mine for these reasons 1. Color Science 2. Leaf Shutter. The ability to sync flash speed at 4000! 3. Build quality first class!
You know it's crazy. I finally got a leaf shutter after shooting strobes on location for years. And now I hardly ever use strobes But you're right on all accounts. If you only wanted to carry two x2d lenses, which two would you choose?
Keep in mind that you only get the best possible color if you use the horrible Phocus software. If you are editing in Adobe/Capture One, you are missing out a lot sadly.
@@RegrinderAlert Agreed, Phocus is horrible. Unfortunately I might not be representing these cameras in their best light because I strictly use Lightroom to edit my raws. But since that variable stays the same, at least it's a somewhat constant metric for my opinions
Hobbyist perspective: I own an X2D and an M11 and am vaguely considering ditching my X2D tbh. I think everything you mentioned is true. The X2D has some advantages for sure, the color is so good it changed how I edited my Leica files, the autofocus is fine (I only have the 55V while I have a bazillion M lenses). If I shot professionally it would be a no brainer though, the leaf shutter and TTL framing are huge when you really need the best, no? It is in the back of my mind that what makes more sense than having a Leica and Hasselblad is having a Leica and a Leica, so have an SL camera with an autofocus lens or two and the Leica M -> L adapter. Leica seems to do something a bit different with colors in the SL lineup (i.e. they seem more accurate).
I almost think hobbyists are the biggest consumers of these higher end cameras. I wish I had a bazillion M lenses. You know, techart has the autofocus adapter for leica M glass to nikon Z mount (sony as well but supposedly the z works better). You could try your lenses on a nikon Z body and have AF on all that glorious Leica glass
@@WILMORENO as it happens I have a Zf. I use it for bad weather, standing on boats, or when Im out with someone I know cant focus a rangefinder (I learned youre never in focus if someone else uses your Leica). Overall, I hate it. Terrible selection of appropriate lenses from Nikon, atrocious auto-iso implementation and truly ugly color science. YMMV though. I really detest the adapting experience. I did that a ton in the past when I was younger and couldn't afford native lenses. I shoot M on M, and Z lenses on Z, though Nikon doesn't sell a ton of interesting ones. Especially because the Zf sensor is an absolute dust magnet and using anything that isn't sealed is asking for trouble.
@@TCMx3 that's hilarious "I learned youre never in focus if someone else uses your Leica" Im not a fan of these new mirrorless lenses to be honest. Everything now looks like a green screen scene, instead of that old school 3d pop that got me infatuated with photography to begin with. I also just learned that the zf sensor stays exposed, even though it has a shutter....planned obsolescence?
Budget was my driver and I went to Hasselblad. I am set with the P series of lenses - optically excellent, affordable, and light. The 75P is really an excellent portrait lens. That sold me on sticking with the P series vice going to the V series. BTW is also have the Leica Q2M which gives me my B&W fix. Also the D-Lux 8 for small candid work. As others say, the color science and flash sync speed for studio work. But when I added things up, going the Hasselblad route was more cost effective than going the Leica M11 route. Decisions, decisions. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I'm glad to hear the 75 is a safe gamble. I always thought the x2D could replace the q2 if I had the 28p on it. But I don't know, it was just different. man the Q2 monochrom has always been an object of desire. Plus it's incredibly handsome. It's just such a commitment to perma discard color. But Leicas B&W is unparalleled in my opinion. It's got me lusting. Plus that new m11 glossy is crazy handsome. But I'm a little mad they didn't include the P specs. I just started looking at the d lux 8, do you feel your missing out at all with the sensor size? I'm trying my best to have a solid body and 2 lenses. The more options I have, the more I feel like I brought the wrong camera or lens Thanks for your comment! Cheers
@@WILMORENO Yes, the 75P is excellent and in my opinion the best of the P series. In my mind, Thedepth of field wide open is really great for separating your subject from the background. The 28P was made for X-Pan crop mode. Optically very good and sharp plus a sync speed of 1/4000. It is small and light. I have to agree with Leica monochrom cameras images have no equal compared to post processing color into B&W. They give you Liberation through limitations. Just have to go to another mind set when shooting only Monochrom which is not a bad thing. More attention to texture, composition, and contrast. The D-Lux 8 with the zoom makes up for sensor size and not needing having to crop. It is just so handy and small to have on hand.
@@chrisbogart687 I didn't know the 28 was optimized for Xpan. I actually cropped a lot of my shots to Xpan, I love that format. Also the 28p had the quietest shutter, my 80 is so loud it almost causes an echo. You've got a killer setup, sounds like we share many of the same sentiments as well. Thanks for your comments
@@WILMORENO For b/w shoots, the dedicated Leica b/w camera is superior to any other colour camera, as the red / green / green / blue Bayer mask used at colour sensors by design throws away approx. 2/3 of the light. In contrast to this, Leica's dedicated b/w sensor is NOT covered by a Bayer mask. So if you do a lot of b/w work, it's worth considering the b/w only Leica: it will give you much more sensitivity and dynamic range. Sadly, Leica puts quite a premium price tag on it, though...
@tom_k_d I've also heard that when camera sensors don't have af points, it adds to the image quality as well. So in theory the lack of bayer filter array + lack of af makes the monochrom cameras about the best iq one could get. I have also read that the highlights have less range since there's less color data initially grabbed? So in theory on monochroms it's a little easier to blow the highlights? I could be way off here. But I do shoot raw and get my exposure correct in camera, highlights are probably a non issue
A very fine option could be a Fuji GFX100 S II with 55mm f1,7 and 110mm F2. Not so expensive, and a real extraordinary system. I have the 80mm f1,7 for very shallow depth of field but the 110 should be a better choice ! I have the system since oct 2023 (with a gfx 100 first generation, same image quality but poorer autofocus)mainly for the studio and can't imagine going back to full frame ! But my main purpose is big prints (60cm minimum large usually) so the 100 Mpix is helpful !
I struggled between the gfx100ii and x2d last year. I've got a video about it if you're interested. I've got a huge print I took of the grand canyon from my gfx hanging in my living room. 30x60 inches, it looks great. I'm going back to the grand canyon next month with w/e new camera I end up buying to try to outdo the GFX shot. BTW I chose the x2d over the fuji, but in hindsight the 110 f2 on the gfx was the better portrait lens than the 80 on the x2d. But the Hasselblad is superior for landscapes in my opinion. Neither are bad cameras to have in any respect. I love the option for big prints but funny enough, I end up resizing 99% of my photos down to like 2 megapixels for facebook/instagram posting. Thank you for watching and for the comment
@@WILMORENO Just for info the gfx 100 S II is 10gr lighter than the X2D, and you have the wonderfull 23-35mm for landscapes. Of course I'm not appointed by Fuji !.
The Leica look is created by the Leica lenses. The images are detailed and lively (the 3D pop) but not razor sharp. I currently have a M11 with a lot of lenses but my favorites are the 35 APO, 35 Summilux FLE and Steel Rim (classic look optical design from 1961), 50 Summilux and the 50 Noctilux 0.95 which almost create the large format look sometimes. I also have the Fujifilm GFX 100s with the 55 1.7 & 80 1.7 for medium format stuff. In my opinion, if you can you should get the Leica again. You can do everything and anything with a digital M with just a 35 Summilux and a 50 Noctilux (for the dreamy bokeh). No digital medium format cameras can recreate the look, but you can edit the colors although I prefer the colors from the Leica 😊
That 35 apo was high on my list but it's very pricey. Sounds like you're living the Leica dream with a noctilux. Did you ever mess with any of the zeiss M glass? The distagon 35 really stood out to me when I was shooting M lenses. But now that all the dust has settled, I've seen that the summilux 35 gave me my personal favorite. And yeah I thought that I'd get an even bigger step up in image quality moving to medium format. But leica has some kind of magic. And that's what I've been chasing.
I haven’t tried any Zeiss lenses yet, but I do have a few Voigtländer lenses for focal lengths I don’t shoot with much. Honestly, I don’t feel like there’s a big jump in image quality when I shoot with my GFX compared to my Leica. The 35mm APO is an amazing lens. It’s super detailed, no chromatic aberration, vibrant colors, and the close focus down to 0.3m makes it really versatile. What makes Leica special is their optical performance. People often talk about sharpness, but with Leica, it’s not about edge sharpness-it’s about the resolving power. Their lenses capture details and micro-contrast with so much clarity, giving the images a unique character that’s hard to match. Plus, with Leica, you can use any lens dating back to 1925 if you’re after that classic character. And if you’re looking for perfection, there’s always the 35mm and 50mm APO 😎.
@@ItisBean I agree the medium format...well mostly medium format jump from full frame wasn't quite as dramatic as I expected. Close focusing is a big one for me, but you definitely have pay for it. And I agree most get lost in the sharpness debate but ignore microcontrast and 3d pop etc. Theses attributes that don't appear on mtf charts. I've now got my mind set on an apo lens, thank you!
I understand and agree with most of what you say. But for IQ the HB has it hands down. Color and light are what the HB does so well. The Leica is not in the same class. I have some old M bodies and some nice 50's. I get good color and light but alongside the X2D, no comparison. But I am just an amateur hack out their destroying electrons. You pay the rent with a camera so it's different between us.
Naaa keep the Hassy - technically it's a much better camera. And before buying a Leica I'd rather go Canon, especially as a fan of fast lenses, and if my main pain point was AF: Both RF 1.2 lenses are brilliant, as well as the RF135 1.8, and the R5 is no slouch, either.
1.2 you say 🤔 Thanks for the solid advice. Lens options are my #1 issue. I did buy an R5 last year with the 28-70 f2. It just didn't sing to me at the time. What about Nikon?
@@WILMORENO I own Canon gear, thus can't speak for Nikon (I don't like Nikons product design, little LCDs inside the lenses etc, much prefer the lean Canon design and ergonomics). The RF28-70 2 is a good compromise solution for the professional event photographer who wants flexibility with one body only, but nothing like the RF50 1.2 or RF85 1.2 or RF135 1.8. These are sharp wide open, and nail focus every time on the R5. Maybe give the RF85 1.2 a try for a day...
@@SamAbram-dl1mg I shoot raw, so skin tones are whatever I make them in post... If you want to use .jpg straight out of camera, with help of the Canon 'Picture Style Editor' software you can create custom picture styles matching your exact needs. Btw, with Canon's CR3 files, the default (unedited) interpretation to me looks better in C1 than in Lightroom - so how raw files are interpreted depends on the raw editor software used.
Your photos are beautiful. I'm just a hobbyist, but every time I move to a physically bigger system than Leica M, I move back. I care way more about portability than autofocus. Couldn't you keep the Hassy but buy a used M10 and get the best of both worlds?
@joshuarothman Hey, thanks for the compliment & suggestion. That's a pretty good point. I would still want a wide angle for the X system, and then a portrait and wide for the Leica. I'm trying to be somewhat fiscally responsible lol. I also consider myself a hobbyist. Cheers!
What is that fast lenses obsession with youtubers? Your fav photographer Peter Lindberg was shooting with Nikon and zoom lens which is F2.8. In fashion world , %90 of editorials and campaigns shot at maximum F2.8. And new xcd lenses are not worst than old ones in terms of weather sealing. Ciaoo
@GKhanKutar I've been a professional model for the past 13 years. Glad to finally learn about the fashion industry from a youtube troll. Do you have a body of work we can see? My favorite Lindbergh shots were in fact not taken with a 2.8 zoom. Though he did use one towards the end of his career 👋
@ being a model and photographer is different thing because it seems like you need to learn how to use flash. Try to shoot at f0.95 for a cover or campaign lol
@@GKhanKutar It's funny how the photographers I work with think I'm very talented with a camera. I have a great time talking gear with just about everyone I work with. I mastered using strobes on location over a decade ago. Not going to dig up old photos to prove it to you. Unless you're willing to send a link to your portfolio? Also a simple google search will inform you that the newer lenses V are not as weather sealed.
@ there is no official announcement for Hasselblad lenses as they are weather sealed. Only you can understand it from their rubber cover. Your “simple internet search” does not mean anything “officially and correctly”. Sorry but the way you talk is beginner. Check more Peter Lindberg backstage videos maybe you can change your f0.95 obsession for fashion photography. But you are free to go for 0.95 for sure. Ciaaoo
I was on the fence about going with the x2d over getting back into an M camera. I had an m240, and it wasn’t the camera I wanted it to be. While I was in NYC for Christmas, I jumped on an M11p and a 35 summicron. I shoot a lot of weddings, and when I whip out an R3 with a 28-70 on it.. they get nervous. The M11 should reduce a little of that (from my experience). Training back up for a wild wedding season with the rangefinder in my downtime. I feel like the next Hasselblad might be the one for me. Hopefully it has servo AF and maybe a joystick. I’d also love for it to have pixel binning like the M. Also, looks like you’re working with some of the CHS talent! I’ve worked with some of the same ladies.
@@petrolabkilla That m240 was a chunky leica but at least it had video...kind of lol. Congrats on your m11p, that script on the top makes a handsome camera even more attractive. Sapphire is a proper screen material for a luxury camera as well. I had that 28-70 on a r5 for a brief moment. Absolutely massive lens to aim at people but hey, constant f2 on a zoom is really hard to pass up. Especially if you're shooting weddings Servo and joystick would make a huge difference for sure. Joysticks should be mandatory on cameras.. I wonder how far out the X3D is. But you'd think servo firmware update could show up at any moment. I'm a little hesitant to get a m11 now because they've been out for 3 years now. I wonder if a m12 is around the corner. Speaking of features we'd want. If the m12 somehow implemented a digital rangefinder, I would lose my mind. Like the option to zoom in through the window for focus. But still also have the option to line up boxes for those who like the typical rangefinder experience... The visoflex 2 was nice because I could tilt it. But it did make the camera noticeably taller. Small world! Are you from Charleston? There's a lot of great talent in this area. Most of those girls I've photographed many times on many different cameras. Thank you for watching and commenting
I'm like the odd man out. I own an M11, X2D, and just recently bought a 2022 M6 because I love the different variations of B&W film and grain textures you can achieve using different film stock and chemicals. For my X2D, I've adapted a wide variety of Hasselblad HC lenses using the XH 0.8 adapter, and they all look amazing, so much so that I never have the desire to look at the new XV series. The only thing I miss out on is AF, but that's not really an issue for me. As for my Leica cameras, my favorite from top to bottom is the 50mm Noct f1.2, 35mm Summilux FLE, and Thypoc 28mm f1.4. Personally, I love shooting the X2D with an HC 100 f2.2 for portrait work. With the XH converter, it makes it an 80.2mm f1.8. Could the lens be sharper, of course, but for portrait work, it's amazing and still very sharp. With focus peaking, I can still achieve focus on the eyes with no problem. Yes, the Hasselblad system is big and gets even heavier with the adapters, but the proof is in the pudding, as they say. Nighttime photos are also a big advantage. The dynamic range with IBIS and ISO 64 is pure magic. I can easily hand-hold an X2D with HC 100 in the dark with no problem. In fact, it's the only way I can shoot after dark as I hate using tripods. As for my Leica's, I do use them to get a different look, I guess I'm a fast lens guy as well but only because they still are pretty small compared to Hasselblad lenses and I do love that I can adapt them to my Hasselblad as well best of both worlds.
@rf8221, I would love to hear your thoughts on adapting M lenses to the X2D - you mentioned your favorite M lenses - do you adapt them to the X2D, and if so, what do you think of them in that use case? I'm thinking of picking up a M-mount lens for my X2D but am not sure which one. The 28mm Summilux was a favorite of mine on the M11, but unfortunately it doesn't do well on the X2D....
@@petermendelson5839 Out of the three M mount lenses only the Thypoc lens has full coverage with mild vignette, the other two I use them with 35mm crop. The Thypoc 28mm lens is sharper than I expected which may be good or bad and it does make the whole setup much lighter.
In a recent video - cannot recall which - the creator pointed out that none of the masters of photography ever shot for bokeh. Subject isolation was always done with other means. Light, position, elements in the photo.
Appreciate the info, let me know if you ever find that link, I'd like to check it out.
My favorite Lindbergh photo I'm convinced was taken with a very shallow depth of field.
It's a group shot of some supermodels in an alley. They're all wearing leather boots and hats with motorcycles. It's an easy google search. I'm curious to get your take on wether that was a shallow depth of field or just lighting/positioning etc.
That picture alone made me move from the 2.8 to the 1.9 lens. I kept thinking that I'd miss out on such a powerful shot opportunity with a more limited depth of field
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I had the decision to make just before Christmas on the X2D, SL3 or GFX100 II and I ended up with the X2D.... it's not small and light (especially with my favorite lens, the 80mm 1.9) but the image quality is second to nothing. My friends SL3 just doesnt' stack up, and the Fuji needs too much post processing to get the color correct. That said, you're right there are fewer good fast lenses for this camera.. my next lens will be a 20-35 likely, considering the wider angles and the large sensor, it will behave very much like a fast lens does.
Good choice, I don't know enough about the SL3 yet but definitely X2D > GFX in my book as well.
Imagine if Hasselblad made a ~35mm f1.7
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The new zoom + the 80 is a solid kit. One of my favorite things about the 80 is simply looking at the glass. That front element sings when it's reflecting all the nearby light across it.
@@WILMORENO I feel you man, that 3.5 number is just off-putting but the glass in that lens is top notch and as someone who has the 50mm f/0.95 Noctilux for my M11, yes, that .95 inspires me to get out and shoot... but I can also confirm that this 80mm 1,9 gives the same exact vibes, keep the X2D and don't look back.
Photography perfection is found in three cameras: X2D, M11 Monochrom, and latest Sony/Canon/Nikon to do speed and long tele.
Hey Will,
Have you considered the SL3? It's not as small as an M, but paired with the SL APO's you're going to get the separation I think you're looking for, plus insane sharpness. And even though it's not the Fastest AF in the world it is better than the Hassy. Plus you can adapt all of the M lenses to them easily and they look even better on that sensor.
you know I hadn't even considered one til now. I don't mind the form factor and I know Leica makes a beautiful camera. I also started looking at their used medium format bodies but I should probably leave that door closed. I have a strong feeling that an APO lens is in my future. Thanks for the suggestion
@@WILMORENOit’s a smart move only because their new medium format solution is being released this year, so I’d wait to experiment with their MF till
That comes out
100S II looks really promising, especially those who have been full frame for years ready to take the next step. Lecia SL2 and the 35 APO SUMMICRON for personal work and that combo is so special.
Same problem. The fact that the X2d has no bw live view bothers me, when you shoot in color a lot of the time the bw intention is not there.
ha i forgot all about that. It was probably my biggest gripe at first. You're very right about intention. Also, I fond that shooting in b&w preview helped me better with my exposure (I only shoot manual). Couldn't explain why but I found to be true. Thank you
I use my M10M more than my M11M. The files are still just perfect from the M10M. I primarily have the M11M so I can use the Noctilux .95 wide open without having to use ND filters.I use my Sl3 with the SL50 Summilux if I need AF. Nice video and good luck on your choices. Really cannot go wrong with either.
It's interesting that you are choosing the 10 over the 11. Is it because they take up less space?
I'd really like to try a noctilux. Is it sharp wide open? Or do you need to stop down a bit to get its best performance?
@@WILMORENO I find that the M10M just has a look to it. The 40 vs 60 also lets me hold it slower speeds if needed. The nocutlux .95 is sharp at the focus point. You have about 1/2" of depth of field. Just takes practice on a M to really get consistent hitting focus. The M lenses are also awesome on the SL3 camera as well.
@@StephenPodraskyI second this.
I had the x2d and the 55v 75p sold everything it’s slow and you have black out screen/ viewfinder that really slows you down, now happy with Leica SL3 50mm apo sl lens and 50mm M summilux lens remember you want character in your photos I also feel that images converted in sl3 to black&white come out better then the x2d colors and medium format look is something you can’t get on the sl3 although the apo lenses do create that effect so do I miss the x2d yes and no I feel that im getting an advantage when using old lenses or let’s say the 0.95 it’s a cinema lens so happy with my decision.
Glad to hear from another person with hands on experience with both systems. I genuinely miss some of that leica magic so my wallet is probably going to take another beating. I've bought 5 cameras so far in the past 2 years, so I really need to settle down once I figure out this next move. Thanks for watching and your comment
I agree 100% with your lens options, which is why I shoot with the 24/1.4, 35/1.4, 50/1.2, and 85/1.4 on my Sony A7R5. I’ve thought a lot about getting an x100D, but there is no way to match my expectations for shallow DOF and pinpoint AF on the eyes compared to Sony with the lenses I mentioned. That’s why I decided to spend the money I saved for an x100D on an A1-2. This camera will have even better AF + open the door to wildlife and sports. I shot Leica for about 15 years (M6, M7, R9) and loved them. Leica was slow to digital, which s why I switched initially to Canon and now Sony. I can say without question that the Sony lenses I mentioned leave nothing on the table compared to modern Leica glass and improve on it in many ways. Would I love to have an M11 right now? Sure, the shooting experience would be the best, but the results would not compare favorably to Sony with the lenses I list. All the best.
Why anyone wouldn't want the option for more light...in the game of catching light is beyond me. Plus I personally prefer to have the lowest iso/fastest shutter speed possible. With these higher resolution sensors, any bit of motion blur/camera shake becomes noticeable. The X2D does have the best ibis I've ever experienced. Which is great if you the photographer is a little shaky, but still doesn't stabilize your subject. So faster shutter speed is still my overall preferred option.
Thanks for sharing, and it sounds like you're locked and loaded for anything.
If you could only have 2 lenses in your kit which two would you keep? As of today I'm thinking 28 and 85 could be my kit moving forward
The Hassy is amazing. I love my X1D2 but I’m currently selling it because of the block on using Capture One. I don’t like Phocus or Lightroom, plus Adobe have doubled my monthly subscription charge. I only went with Lightroom because of the Hasselblad.
I just bought an M10 and feel at home again. The colour science is also good, like X1D2. I like the rangefinder focussing and found the (older) X1D2 autofocus very slow (often hunting).
The images from the Hassy are a little better, but I enjoy using the Leica more and happy to go back to Capture One.
I hadn't even considered cancelling adobe for capture one. Everyone seems to prefer capture these days. I appreciate this take because you probably just changed my entire workflow for the better.
I had an X1D2 as well and yeah it just couldn't cut it as a main camera. Definitely too much hunting.
Thanks for your comment
Love the portrait you captured on the m11
thank you very much. I just looked at your website again. Very inspiring work. I especially like the surfer portraits, but the whole gallery is exemplary. I gotta step my game up
You can get the Leica SL
SL3?
Thanks, I hadn't even thought of the SL3.
Just did a brief scroll through the SL3 and availabile lenses.
Honestly, it looks like a really good option.
f2 seems to be the limit for most available lenses. But if that's the only downside, it looks like a solid contender
Thank you for this recommendation
Seems like a waste to shoot excessively BW with an X2D since the colors are so good.
right! I used to have the mindset that if I couldn't get the colors right, I'd just switch it to b&w. So tons of leica shots ended up b&w, which works for leica beautifully.
On X2D colors just feel right. They really nailed it. Oddly, b&w usually looks a little off. Can't put my finger on it.
Thank you for watching & commenting
I feel you. I have both and I can't bring myself to sell either one. I think of them as different instruments for different applications. Leica is awesome for that buttery shallow DOF and character. Hasselblad is great for insane performance and that medium format goodness (colors are a moveable feast if you shoot RAW). I've shot the 90 and the 80 and I can confirm that the 90 is sharper; I got the 90 by pure luck and it's my go-to for anything portrait. The DOF difference is minimal given that the 90 is more telephoto. If you have a chance, try the 135 from Hasselblad; it's one of my favorite lenses ever. If you really love B&W, the M11 Mono is also a killer. I shoot it for my personal/family work. Nice video and good discussion.
You're the second person to recommend that 135. I don't know why I haven't considered it yet. Thank you for watching and commenting
I have shot a lot with Leica and now use the X2D and 20-35, 25v, 28P, 45P, 55v, 90v, 120mm and 135mm. For a "Waffle House" situation, I wonder if the X2D/28P combo would have been fine and relatively discreet. The 80mm is gigantic and soooo heavy (25v feels much smaller / lighter). I sold the 80 when I moved to the 90v, which is an amazing lens, and I have no regrets. Don't forget f/2.5 on a medium format camera is like f/1.8 on a full frame camera in terms of depth of field. I get the temptation to go back to Leica, though, and sometimes think about picking up a M10-R and one or two lenses just for that shooting experience and the unique and tiny lenses offered in M-mount. Finally, don't forget you can adapt M lenses to the X2D - some lenses work better than others, such as the 50mm Summilux (wider M lenses tend not to work as well, I.e., don't cover the whole sensor so you have to crop). Good luck- all good choices!
@petermendelson5839 yeah the 28p could work, I had one when they first released. But something about it didn't warm up to me at the time.
Adapting lenses would be nice but the readout speeds also made it a non starter for me. I did some electronic shutter tests and the banding/warping was too much to work around.
Also a lot of Leica people claim the m10r is the last leica made. Maybe we should both get M10R's with black paint
Think Wil just likes to change it up from time to time! :) Why did you sell the M11?
Ha! That's an expensive fact.
With the M11, 1. it kept freezing (I've heard new firmware fixed this). 2. I kept the visoflex II & grip on it 100% of the time. Sizewise it became comparable to all the other cameras. And 3. I wanted the option to have af in some scenarios. Mainly portraits & my pups.
After using x2d and gfx for a couple years...I scrolled through my old lightroom catalogue and found I was more a fan of those leica shots overall.
Unless it came to landscapes. I'm going to say the X2D is the best for landscapes to my eyes
You don’t need auto-focus for portraits.
@@ChrisWhittenMusic and you don't need a stool to play drums 🤔
@ obviously you do.
I just did a tour (3 months) with only the X1D2 for clandestine photo reportage. The hunting, especially in low light, drove me mad.
Actually it’s quicker to manual focus on an M. I realise the X2D has improved auto focus though.
@@ChrisWhittenMusic yeah they finally added face tracking even though it's still single point instead of servo.
I got pretty good at manual focusing on my M and your point does still stand. There's been plenty of times on many other cameras where the AF missed focus even thought it confirmed.
Clandestine photo reportage is probably my favorite scenario other than landscapes. Do you have a gallery anywhere of your shots?
@@WILMORENO Most of the shots since September are Hasselblad. The 65mm lens goes down to f2.8.
I tend to shoot between f2.8 and 5.6. So hard to nail focus below f2 IMHO
If you sell the Hassy, you will eventually regret it. I'm keeping mine for these reasons
1. Color Science
2. Leaf Shutter. The ability to sync flash speed at 4000!
3. Build quality first class!
You know it's crazy. I finally got a leaf shutter after shooting strobes on location for years. And now I hardly ever use strobes
But you're right on all accounts.
If you only wanted to carry two x2d lenses, which two would you choose?
XCD 2,5/90V, for portraits
And the XCD 2,5/55v, as an all-round lens.
You could always rent the wide angle zoom, for projects.
Keep in mind that you only get the best possible color if you use the horrible Phocus software. If you are editing in Adobe/Capture One, you are missing out a lot sadly.
@@RegrinderAlert Agreed, Phocus is horrible. Unfortunately I might not be representing these cameras in their best light because I strictly use Lightroom to edit my raws. But since that variable stays the same, at least it's a somewhat constant metric for my opinions
@@---us7qf sounds like the 90 is the current portrait king
Hobbyist perspective: I own an X2D and an M11 and am vaguely considering ditching my X2D tbh. I think everything you mentioned is true. The X2D has some advantages for sure, the color is so good it changed how I edited my Leica files, the autofocus is fine (I only have the 55V while I have a bazillion M lenses). If I shot professionally it would be a no brainer though, the leaf shutter and TTL framing are huge when you really need the best, no? It is in the back of my mind that what makes more sense than having a Leica and Hasselblad is having a Leica and a Leica, so have an SL camera with an autofocus lens or two and the Leica M -> L adapter. Leica seems to do something a bit different with colors in the SL lineup (i.e. they seem more accurate).
I almost think hobbyists are the biggest consumers of these higher end cameras.
I wish I had a bazillion M lenses.
You know, techart has the autofocus adapter for leica M glass to nikon Z mount (sony as well but supposedly the z works better). You could try your lenses on a nikon Z body and have AF on all that glorious Leica glass
@@WILMORENO as it happens I have a Zf. I use it for bad weather, standing on boats, or when Im out with someone I know cant focus a rangefinder (I learned youre never in focus if someone else uses your Leica). Overall, I hate it. Terrible selection of appropriate lenses from Nikon, atrocious auto-iso implementation and truly ugly color science. YMMV though.
I really detest the adapting experience. I did that a ton in the past when I was younger and couldn't afford native lenses. I shoot M on M, and Z lenses on Z, though Nikon doesn't sell a ton of interesting ones. Especially because the Zf sensor is an absolute dust magnet and using anything that isn't sealed is asking for trouble.
@@TCMx3 that's hilarious "I learned youre never in focus if someone else uses your Leica"
Im not a fan of these new mirrorless lenses to be honest. Everything now looks like a green screen scene, instead of that old school 3d pop that got me infatuated with photography to begin with.
I also just learned that the zf sensor stays exposed, even though it has a shutter....planned obsolescence?
Budget was my driver and I went to Hasselblad. I am set with the P series of lenses - optically excellent, affordable, and light. The 75P is really an excellent portrait lens. That sold me on sticking with the P series vice going to the V series. BTW is also have the Leica Q2M which gives me my B&W fix. Also the D-Lux 8 for small candid work. As others say, the color science and flash sync speed for studio work. But when I added things up, going the Hasselblad route was more cost effective than going the Leica M11 route. Decisions, decisions. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I'm glad to hear the 75 is a safe gamble. I always thought the x2D could replace the q2 if I had the 28p on it. But I don't know, it was just different.
man the Q2 monochrom has always been an object of desire. Plus it's incredibly handsome. It's just such a commitment to perma discard color. But Leicas B&W is unparalleled in my opinion. It's got me lusting. Plus that new m11 glossy is crazy handsome. But I'm a little mad they didn't include the P specs.
I just started looking at the d lux 8, do you feel your missing out at all with the sensor size?
I'm trying my best to have a solid body and 2 lenses. The more options I have, the more I feel like I brought the wrong camera or lens
Thanks for your comment! Cheers
@@WILMORENO Yes, the 75P is excellent and in my opinion the best of the P series. In my mind, Thedepth of field wide open is really great for separating your subject from the background.
The 28P was made for X-Pan crop mode. Optically very good and sharp plus a sync speed of 1/4000. It is small and light.
I have to agree with Leica monochrom cameras images have no equal compared to post processing color into B&W. They give you Liberation through limitations. Just have to go to another mind set when shooting only Monochrom which is not a bad thing. More attention to texture, composition, and contrast.
The D-Lux 8 with the zoom makes up for sensor size and not needing having to crop. It is just so handy and small to have on hand.
@@chrisbogart687 I didn't know the 28 was optimized for Xpan. I actually cropped a lot of my shots to Xpan, I love that format. Also the 28p had the quietest shutter, my 80 is so loud it almost causes an echo.
You've got a killer setup, sounds like we share many of the same sentiments as well. Thanks for your comments
@@WILMORENO For b/w shoots, the dedicated Leica b/w camera is superior to any other colour camera, as the red / green / green / blue Bayer mask used at colour sensors by design throws away approx. 2/3 of the light. In contrast to this, Leica's dedicated b/w sensor is NOT covered by a Bayer mask. So if you do a lot of b/w work, it's worth considering the b/w only Leica: it will give you much more sensitivity and dynamic range. Sadly, Leica puts quite a premium price tag on it, though...
@tom_k_d I've also heard that when camera sensors don't have af points, it adds to the image quality as well. So in theory the lack of bayer filter array + lack of af makes the monochrom cameras about the best iq one could get. I have also read that the highlights have less range since there's less color data initially grabbed? So in theory on monochroms it's a little easier to blow the highlights? I could be way off here. But I do shoot raw and get my exposure correct in camera, highlights are probably a non issue
A very fine option could be a Fuji GFX100 S II with 55mm f1,7 and 110mm F2. Not so expensive, and a real extraordinary system. I have the 80mm f1,7 for very shallow depth of field but the 110 should be a better choice ! I have the system since oct 2023 (with a gfx 100 first generation, same image quality but poorer autofocus)mainly for the studio and can't imagine going back to full frame ! But my main purpose is big prints (60cm minimum large usually) so the 100 Mpix is helpful !
I struggled between the gfx100ii and x2d last year. I've got a video about it if you're interested.
I've got a huge print I took of the grand canyon from my gfx hanging in my living room. 30x60 inches, it looks great.
I'm going back to the grand canyon next month with w/e new camera I end up buying to try to outdo the GFX shot.
BTW I chose the x2d over the fuji, but in hindsight the 110 f2 on the gfx was the better portrait lens than the 80 on the x2d. But the Hasselblad is superior for landscapes in my opinion. Neither are bad cameras to have in any respect.
I love the option for big prints but funny enough, I end up resizing 99% of my photos down to like 2 megapixels for facebook/instagram posting.
Thank you for watching and for the comment
@@WILMORENO Just for info the gfx 100 S II is 10gr lighter than the X2D, and you have the wonderfull 23-35mm for landscapes. Of course I'm not appointed by Fuji !.
The Leica look is created by the Leica lenses. The images are detailed and lively (the 3D pop) but not razor sharp. I currently have a M11 with a lot of lenses but my favorites are the 35 APO, 35 Summilux FLE and Steel Rim (classic look optical design from 1961), 50 Summilux and the 50 Noctilux 0.95 which almost create the large format look sometimes.
I also have the Fujifilm GFX 100s with the 55 1.7 & 80 1.7 for medium format stuff.
In my opinion, if you can you should get the Leica again. You can do everything and anything with a digital M with just a 35 Summilux and a 50 Noctilux (for the dreamy bokeh). No digital medium format cameras can recreate the look, but you can edit the colors although I prefer the colors from the Leica 😊
That 35 apo was high on my list but it's very pricey. Sounds like you're living the Leica dream with a noctilux. Did you ever mess with any of the zeiss M glass? The distagon 35 really stood out to me when I was shooting M lenses. But now that all the dust has settled, I've seen that the summilux 35 gave me my personal favorite.
And yeah I thought that I'd get an even bigger step up in image quality moving to medium format. But leica has some kind of magic. And that's what I've been chasing.
I haven’t tried any Zeiss lenses yet, but I do have a few Voigtländer lenses for focal lengths I don’t shoot with much. Honestly, I don’t feel like there’s a big jump in image quality when I shoot with my GFX compared to my Leica.
The 35mm APO is an amazing lens. It’s super detailed, no chromatic aberration, vibrant colors, and the close focus down to 0.3m makes it really versatile.
What makes Leica special is their optical performance. People often talk about sharpness, but with Leica, it’s not about edge sharpness-it’s about the resolving power. Their lenses capture details and micro-contrast with so much clarity, giving the images a unique character that’s hard to match. Plus, with Leica, you can use any lens dating back to 1925 if you’re after that classic character. And if you’re looking for perfection, there’s always the 35mm and 50mm APO 😎.
@@ItisBean I agree the medium format...well mostly medium format jump from full frame wasn't quite as dramatic as I expected.
Close focusing is a big one for me, but you definitely have pay for it. And I agree most get lost in the sharpness debate but ignore microcontrast and 3d pop etc. Theses attributes that don't appear on mtf charts.
I've now got my mind set on an apo lens, thank you!
I understand and agree with most of what you say. But for IQ the HB has it hands down. Color and light are what the HB does so well. The Leica is not in the same class. I have some old M bodies and some nice 50's. I get good color and light but alongside the X2D, no comparison. But I am just an amateur hack out their destroying electrons. You pay the rent with a camera so it's different between us.
1001 subs now mate!
Thank you!
Keep the 80mm, the 90mm is slightly worst in sharpness compared to ur current lens. Its better only for speed and weight
Naaa keep the Hassy - technically it's a much better camera. And before buying a Leica I'd rather go Canon, especially as a fan of fast lenses, and if my main pain point was AF: Both RF 1.2 lenses are brilliant, as well as the RF135 1.8, and the R5 is no slouch, either.
1.2 you say 🤔
Thanks for the solid advice. Lens options are my #1 issue.
I did buy an R5 last year with the 28-70 f2. It just didn't sing to me at the time.
What about Nikon?
@@WILMORENO I own Canon gear, thus can't speak for Nikon (I don't like Nikons product design, little LCDs inside the lenses etc, much prefer the lean Canon design and ergonomics).
The RF28-70 2 is a good compromise solution for the professional event photographer who wants flexibility with one body only, but nothing like the RF50 1.2 or RF85 1.2 or RF135 1.8. These are sharp wide open, and nail focus every time on the R5. Maybe give the RF85 1.2 a try for a day...
Skin tones on canon are very yellow compared to sl3 but canon has some nice lenses
@@SamAbram-dl1mg I shoot raw, so skin tones are whatever I make them in post... If you want to use .jpg straight out of camera, with help of the Canon 'Picture Style Editor' software you can create custom picture styles matching your exact needs.
Btw, with Canon's CR3 files, the default (unedited) interpretation to me looks better in C1 than in Lightroom - so how raw files are interpreted depends on the raw editor software used.
Your photos are beautiful. I'm just a hobbyist, but every time I move to a physically bigger system than Leica M, I move back. I care way more about portability than autofocus. Couldn't you keep the Hassy but buy a used M10 and get the best of both worlds?
@joshuarothman Hey, thanks for the compliment & suggestion. That's a pretty good point. I would still want a wide angle for the X system, and then a portrait and wide for the Leica. I'm trying to be somewhat fiscally responsible lol.
I also consider myself a hobbyist. Cheers!
The 90 is lighter has less CA wide open and focuses so much faster. No comparison.
That's one thing I forgot to mention. The CA on the 80 is wild. It's crazy distracting in a lot of situations. Thanks for your comment
@ yea the 90V is amazing. Lighter. I got mine in the HB website after asking to be notified for stock. Got it quick
What is that fast lenses obsession with youtubers? Your fav photographer Peter Lindberg was shooting with Nikon and zoom lens which is F2.8. In fashion world , %90 of editorials and campaigns shot at maximum F2.8. And new xcd lenses are not worst than old ones in terms of weather sealing. Ciaoo
@GKhanKutar I've been a professional model for the past 13 years. Glad to finally learn about the fashion industry from a youtube troll. Do you have a body of work we can see?
My favorite Lindbergh shots were in fact not taken with a 2.8 zoom. Though he did use one towards the end of his career 👋
@ being a model and photographer is different thing because it seems like you need to learn how to use flash. Try to shoot at f0.95 for a cover or campaign lol
@@GKhanKutar It's funny how the photographers I work with think I'm very talented with a camera. I have a great time talking gear with just about everyone I work with.
I mastered using strobes on location over a decade ago. Not going to dig up old photos to prove it to you.
Unless you're willing to send a link to your portfolio?
Also a simple google search will inform you that the newer lenses V are not as weather sealed.
@ there is no official announcement for Hasselblad lenses as they are weather sealed. Only you can understand it from their rubber cover. Your “simple internet search” does not mean anything “officially and correctly”. Sorry but the way you talk is beginner. Check more Peter Lindberg backstage videos maybe you can change your f0.95 obsession for fashion photography. But you are free to go for 0.95 for sure.
Ciaaoo
@@GKhanKutar all that and no website link :)
Both use boring sony sensors, don't throw Canon here it makes own sensors unlike the rest
Back in the film days, no one was shooting on Canon or Hasselblad film either.
You do make a good point. At least Canon is keeping it competitive
The colours are from the software and the glass
I was on the fence about going with the x2d over getting back into an M camera. I had an m240, and it wasn’t the camera I wanted it to be. While I was in NYC for Christmas, I jumped on an M11p and a 35 summicron. I shoot a lot of weddings, and when I whip out an R3 with a 28-70 on it.. they get nervous. The M11 should reduce a little of that (from my experience). Training back up for a wild wedding season with the rangefinder in my downtime. I feel like the next Hasselblad might be the one for me. Hopefully it has servo AF and maybe a joystick. I’d also love for it to have pixel binning like the M.
Also, looks like you’re working with some of the CHS talent! I’ve worked with some of the same ladies.
@@petrolabkilla That m240 was a chunky leica but at least it had video...kind of lol. Congrats on your m11p, that script on the top makes a handsome camera even more attractive. Sapphire is a proper screen material for a luxury camera as well.
I had that 28-70 on a r5 for a brief moment. Absolutely massive lens to aim at people but hey, constant f2 on a zoom is really hard to pass up. Especially if you're shooting weddings
Servo and joystick would make a huge difference for sure. Joysticks should be mandatory on cameras.. I wonder how far out the X3D is. But you'd think servo firmware update could show up at any moment.
I'm a little hesitant to get a m11 now because they've been out for 3 years now. I wonder if a m12 is around the corner.
Speaking of features we'd want. If the m12 somehow implemented a digital rangefinder, I would lose my mind. Like the option to zoom in through the window for focus. But still also have the option to line up boxes for those who like the typical rangefinder experience...
The visoflex 2 was nice because I could tilt it. But it did make the camera noticeably taller.
Small world! Are you from Charleston? There's a lot of great talent in this area. Most of those girls I've photographed many times on many different cameras.
Thank you for watching and commenting
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I'm like the odd man out. I own an M11, X2D, and just recently bought a 2022 M6 because I love the different variations of B&W film and grain textures you can achieve using different film stock and chemicals. For my X2D, I've adapted a wide variety of Hasselblad HC lenses using the XH 0.8 adapter, and they all look amazing, so much so that I never have the desire to look at the new XV series. The only thing I miss out on is AF, but that's not really an issue for me. As for my Leica cameras, my favorite from top to bottom is the 50mm Noct f1.2, 35mm Summilux FLE, and Thypoc 28mm f1.4.
Personally, I love shooting the X2D with an HC 100 f2.2 for portrait work. With the XH converter, it makes it an 80.2mm f1.8. Could the lens be sharper, of course, but for portrait work, it's amazing and still very sharp. With focus peaking, I can still achieve focus on the eyes with no problem. Yes, the Hasselblad system is big and gets even heavier with the adapters, but the proof is in the pudding, as they say. Nighttime photos are also a big advantage. The dynamic range with IBIS and ISO 64 is pure magic. I can easily hand-hold an X2D with HC 100 in the dark with no problem. In fact, it's the only way I can shoot after dark as I hate using tripods.
As for my Leica's, I do use them to get a different look, I guess I'm a fast lens guy as well but only because they still are pretty small compared to Hasselblad lenses and I do love that I can adapt them to my Hasselblad as well best of both worlds.
@rf8221 this is the kind of unique setup I respect most
@rf8221, I would love to hear your thoughts on adapting M lenses to the X2D - you mentioned your favorite M lenses - do you adapt them to the X2D, and if so, what do you think of them in that use case? I'm thinking of picking up a M-mount lens for my X2D but am not sure which one. The 28mm Summilux was a favorite of mine on the M11, but unfortunately it doesn't do well on the X2D....
@@petermendelson5839 Out of the three M mount lenses only the Thypoc lens has full coverage with mild vignette, the other two I use them with 35mm crop. The Thypoc 28mm lens is sharper than I expected which may be good or bad and it does make the whole setup much lighter.