Sony ZV-E1 Overheating Tests

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • The Sony ZV-E1 has sparked quite a conversation over the past week since its release. A lot of good points but also a lot talking about the negatives including the overheating issues.
    While a lot of people are talking about it have not even had the camera in their hand, there is a small overheating issue.
    If the camera is used how Sony designed it, the camera will not overheat. This camera was NOT designed to be constantly recording but only used in burst recording. Even with professional filming this camera is more than sufficient to do so.
    Please take not of certain situations and just be aware of the limitations you may encounter.
    Do not forget Sony have multiple other cameras to choose from if you are wanting longer record times and professional work.
    If you have any questions please feel free to comment below.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 281

  • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
    @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +13

    Don't forget the other cameras you have access to if you need longer record times, FX3, FX30, A7SIII, FX6 etc. Also don't get angry at me. I am just reporting my findings, I don't own the brand Sony. You can take or leave my findings and results :)
    Sony are always watching, hence why I make such videos to bring certain things to attention.

  • @SteveWB
    @SteveWB Рік тому +47

    I think any video centric camera should not overheat. Especially if it cost 2k. You put a ton of work into this and it paid off. Great Job!

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +7

      These tests take so long 😅

    • @denzelvanlent7031
      @denzelvanlent7031 Рік тому +1

      Its 2600€ here. Absolutely way to high of a price

    • @PS-ys9yg
      @PS-ys9yg Рік тому +1

      yeah...is a luttle bit a scam from sony to me, because if you dont watch these kind of videos maybe you will never know that. i wanted to buy this camera, because for me is like to get a fx3 way cheaper, but i dont wanna a camera thats decide how match time you have to record LOL

    • @Yodd
      @Yodd Рік тому +1

      Nah, this is the best sensor you could possibly get for that amount of money. The dynamic range, low light performance, framerates and codecs for that price? You wont find better. If you are making music videos, commercials or something like that it is an absolute nobrainer.

    • @beirutgaming
      @beirutgaming Рік тому

      especially when recording in 24fps

  • @TimBelchamber
    @TimBelchamber Рік тому +17

    Really appreciate the depth of the ZV-E1 content you are putting out.

  • @RandumbTech
    @RandumbTech Рік тому +6

    Very few are going to record externally with the ZV-E1. On a hot summer day, this camera would be so frustrating. Still, for $2200, it’s an incredible B/C cam for existing Sony shooters.

  • @changliu8018
    @changliu8018 2 місяці тому

    This memory is unforgettable❤

  • @_rhapsodist
    @_rhapsodist Рік тому +3

    what's missing from this test is recording internally and externally with a dummy battery, please do that too if you can!

  • @dekompose
    @dekompose Рік тому

    People saying this ain’t a professional camera no duh! You’re very smart.

  • @atthemomentfilmmaker684
    @atthemomentfilmmaker684 Рік тому +6

    Hi Jason. How about a dummy battery? Will it extend the record time? Btw much appreciate your hard work on sharing useful information with us❤

  • @trogdor
    @trogdor Рік тому +2

    This feels like the Canon R5 launch conversation all over again.

  • @romylee4033
    @romylee4033 Рік тому

    Thank you for taking the time to run these tests! Very helpful and useful nuggets of information. Besides vloggers, this camera will be well suited for real estate videos .

  • @MarkBennettCameraCrisis
    @MarkBennettCameraCrisis Рік тому +7

    Great tests Jason, it’s important people to know what they’re getting. I’m buying the camera, but I do plan to use it in shorter bursts (plus I live in canada 😂)

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +3

      I certainly love the camera. I’ve done a tonne of normal shoots and it hasn’t overheated. I am getting this camera for the 4K uncropped slow motion

    • @navpreetsingh8156
      @navpreetsingh8156 Рік тому

      @Jason Morris when will you be doing the 4k slow motion tests on overheating then if that's what you are buying for as these test seem to be 4k24

    • @schoeferfilm
      @schoeferfilm Рік тому +1

      I think this is a very good b-cam for my Fx6 because of all the pros and I can use all my ff lenses 😅 but recording with an external monitor with the small hdmi 😂

    • @navpreetsingh8156
      @navpreetsingh8156 Рік тому

      @@schoeferfilm is it really designed as a B cam if it only takes small clips? B cams are usually rolling

    • @schoeferfilm
      @schoeferfilm Рік тому

      @@navpreetsingh8156 yes b-cam for my Fx6 for my own projects 😉 or especially for holidays 🎥 small and smart setup

  • @auroraflash
    @auroraflash 9 місяців тому +1

    In 4k24 H.265 10-bit 4:2:2 recording on a V60 SD card, my ZV-E1 runs for more than 90 minutes before the battery dies.

  • @wakeywarrior
    @wakeywarrior Рік тому +1

    My worry, I’m in a theme park in Florida, it overheats in 15 mins and you can’t get it cooled down to start recording again even in 10 mins. This is at 4k 25- at 4k 60 you’ll probably get 5 mins before you have a hot mess. Many people want to record at 4k 60 so you have the option to slow it later, it’s great to always have the option. On my LUMIX G9 I filmed everything at 60, and often decided to slow footage when I haden’t intended to. Do some 60 tests, I bet it doesn’t last hardly any time.

  • @takunya
    @takunya Рік тому +1

    Why all another UA-camrs LYING ? What kind of honesty is that

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      They aren’t lying, they’re just not testing it like this. This camera wasn’t designed to record long durations so they didnt test it

  • @Bo_Hazem
    @Bo_Hazem Рік тому +3

    Sadly, overheating is a deal breaker to me. But for studio I still think it's a near-perfect camera. Also you can use a dummy battery to massively improve the overheating problem with any camera.

  • @thesamuelnam
    @thesamuelnam Рік тому +1

    What about 1080p recording?

  • @JonathanPalfrey
    @JonathanPalfrey Рік тому +6

    Great work, I know doing all these tests can be a real pain.
    The concern for vloggers and non filmmaking content creators this is aimed as is they will probably want to do a podcast or long a-roll recordings as its not second nature to them. This means they might encounter overheating even more than we as professionals would. The other issue is they wouldn't know about the overheating or how to avoid/mitigate it.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      Yes I don’t think podcasts would be it’s strong point. This is where the FX30 or FX3 will suit

  • @teompa
    @teompa Рік тому +2

    When filming full HD, at a temperature of 30 degrees, does the Sony ZV-E1 camera overheat? Or is the problem only with 4K filming? I can give up 4K, but I may need to film outside when it's over 30 degrees.

  • @Virksomhedsvideo
    @Virksomhedsvideo Рік тому +3

    I tested my ZV e1 today, i had it in airplane mode, indoor in 19 degrees, and i overheated 24fps 4k in only 13.5 minutes, also i got 7 minutes in 4k 50fps... :/

  • @sneakergearz
    @sneakergearz Рік тому +2

    Looks like you always recorded in the highest bitrate. Not sure I heard it but I do believe that effects overheating as well vs some of the smaller options. That and 1080 results. I know this takes a lot of time and work so thank you.

    • @seblx
      @seblx Рік тому +1

      Me too
      i wish i have the test in 1080p...thanxx

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +2

      I tested highest bitrate to test the full capabilities. With 1080 you can record almost unlimited. Overheating is not an issue

    • @sneakergearz
      @sneakergearz Рік тому

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema so to confirm, if recording at lower bitrates, times do increase? I believe Gerald Undone recorded at lower bitrates. Also, I believe you stated yourself that V60 or even V90 cards can help with reducing heat as well but not sure.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      @@sneakergearz not 100% compressed formats actually should make the camera work harder as it compresses the files internally. Gerald’s tests were all in cooler environments too

  • @workingwiththelight3119
    @workingwiththelight3119 Рік тому +1

    Thanks 👍. Looks like the camera is not right for me. I don't want to be limited by overheating paying so much money 💰💰💰 for a camera.

  • @Abhishek.sharma.1994
    @Abhishek.sharma.1994 Рік тому +1

    In indian summer it's 47 Celsius outside.
    How many seconds it last

  • @AgentGrim
    @AgentGrim Рік тому +3

    Ok, so for streaming in 1080... how long does that last? That's half the reason why I'm buying this. Thanks for the video btw. 🐧

    • @johnwelson4789
      @johnwelson4789 Рік тому +1

      lol it overheated on me on a zoom call after 30 min, on HD

  • @truthseeker6804
    @truthseeker6804 Рік тому +2

    give the camera a chance, reduce from All-i to a lower bitrate. how about just no slog but regular picture picture profile off. not that im interested in this camera, but i want to see as many test as possible.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      Haha would love to do more but this took ages to do as I let the camera return back to room temp. Will leave this to someone else to do further tests

  • @jennifergala
    @jennifergala Рік тому

    Really good video. Appreciated your effort. Hopefully version 2 of this camera will address the overheating issue. Fx series is the way to go for the moment.

  • @PeterLindgren1
    @PeterLindgren1 Рік тому +3

    I’m baffled that people leave a camera rolling in direct sunlight for hours 😅.
    I’ve never had any issues with any camera overheating that I’ve used so far. A7III, R3, S3, ZV1, all of them have been great in capturing the things I want.
    As you said, it’s not a camera for Feature films 👊🏼

    • @yanicmb
      @yanicmb Рік тому +1

      Well i live in the tropics jamaica and we shoot alot of outdoor events weddings and racing event or festivals and trust me jamaica gets hot!!!! I was using the a74 to film for a hotel ad i was doing and it overheated like craaaaazy i kept on having to turn the camera off to cool it down then start again

    • @PeterLindgren1
      @PeterLindgren1 Рік тому +1

      ​@@yanicmb The A7IV was known for overheating too if i remember correctly?

    • @strippedlist
      @strippedlist Рік тому +1

      yeah like weddings....im so glad you sold your a7siii for this...just kidding, making fun of you

    • @strippedlist
      @strippedlist Рік тому +1

      you live in finland? sweeden? go to egypt, or malta, or cyprus, or turkey see there whast it';s like

    • @yanicmb
      @yanicmb Рік тому

      @@PeterLindgren1 yup correct but i think they released a firmware that sorta helped

  • @suleymanseykan
    @suleymanseykan Рік тому +15

    This device is not used in Turkey. Because even a normal day sees 23 degrees on a hot summer day of 40 degrees. Recording time would probably be 5 minutes 😂😂

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      Of constant recording yes. Recommend an FX3 or FX30 for pro interview and longer recording scenarios

    • @sasqwatch35mm
      @sasqwatch35mm Рік тому +1

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema unfortunately this is not just a constant recording issue. In such a heat camera internal temps are going to build up and sooner or later you will hit the wall even with bursts. Say if you are travelling and and doing dynamic shots say 20-30 sec each after a few hours you might be unable to do another 1 min take because camera is already hot and not dissipated enough heat due to ambient temperature.
      Anyway, thanks for testing this overheating scenario for us, much appreciated!!!

    • @yigitcanetyemez
      @yigitcanetyemez Рік тому

      It will probably never open in adana in Turkey. 🔥

  • @RADERFPV
    @RADERFPV Рік тому +3

    New firmware 1.02 seems to help with the overheating quite a bit. It just came out a couple days ago, and I've been testing the crap out it. I havent been able to get it to overheat since the update.

    • @GeertDelmulle
      @GeertDelmulle 10 місяців тому

      Well, for me: firmware up-to-date, Streaming for webcam, 1080p 25 FPS, about 1h15mins before Heat Lock.
      Indoors, 19°C. I need longer (up to 3h). My A7C does that very well, so will my A7C2.

    • @RADERFPV
      @RADERFPV 10 місяців тому

      @@GeertDelmulle Oh darn, that sucks. I've been fortunate, mines been working great, no issues so far. I typically shoot in 1080/30 and 4k/30. It gets toasty when shooting in 4k, def on the hot side. I don't shoot in 10 bit though, that could be why I'm not having any issues with it overheating, but of course I'm missing out on that extra bit depth. I can't really tell the difference though.

  • @2cats1guy
    @2cats1guy Рік тому

    Dang it, I thought the white one wouldn’t overheat as fast. Thanks for the video.

  • @kittparker4161
    @kittparker4161 Рік тому +1

    I'd be interested to see how it performs with a dummy battery and an external recorder.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      Would be better. External recording is the way for those who want crazy king constant record times

  • @ttbirds1082
    @ttbirds1082 Рік тому +2

    Nice info. How is the 1080p/60fps performance for internal recording, external hdmi and usb streaming? Also how much extra time with a dummy battery?

  • @MikeeRogers
    @MikeeRogers Рік тому +3

    I’m glad you mentioned this is for vloggers. And Sony was smart for marketing directly towards that market. When I’m out vlogging, the max in recording would be 5 minutes. Rarely would I do 10, just because the file alone would be massive and realistically I’d be using a minute or less of the actual footage.
    Live streaming tests are another story and thank you for testing that! I don’t do lives yet but plan to, so I’ll def stick to 1080 or use my a7iv

    • @seblx
      @seblx Рік тому +1

      how long can you record in hd??

    • @rogeriogomesosorio4755
      @rogeriogomesosorio4755 Рік тому

      And you are fine with the price for a camera that overheats so fast?

    • @MikeeRogers
      @MikeeRogers Рік тому

      @@rogeriogomesosorio4755 for what I do, it wouldn’t overheat. Obviously if I needed to record longer, it would not be for me.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +2

      Correct. It is for vloggers. It is perfect for the market who it was designed for. So far In the 3 weeks I’ve pushed the limits to how I would normally use it and it doesn’t overheat

  • @JohnWi11is
    @JohnWi11is 2 місяці тому

    Get the ZV-E1 and spend an extra $200 to get the Tilta cage and fan which solves the overheating issues and saves you $1500 compared to the FX3... however... If you're a fulltime videographer, work in a hot country and are constantly recording for over an hour then just get the FX3

  • @alanyick7976
    @alanyick7976 Рік тому +1

    Hi Jason, your videos are awesome! , keep up the good work. Can you test using external mini fan where you put in the

  • @jonathanbernard9590
    @jonathanbernard9590 Рік тому +1

    Hello. Thank you very much for the tests. Does it change something if you put long-op instead of all-I ?

  • @AllThingsFilm1
    @AllThingsFilm1 Рік тому +5

    As a filmmaker, overheating is rarely a concern. I don't shoot clips that are several minutes long. While the ZV-E1 is being promoted as a "vlogging" camera, it can also serve as a filmmaking camera given the sensor that it comes with. Let's be honest, how many vloggers - who this camera is geared towards - shoot clips that are more than 10+ minutes long? Look at Casey Neistat. One of the world renowned vloggers. His videos are fast paced with clips mostly lasting a few seconds.
    People like to complain. I've heard cries about overheating on almost every camera released in the past 5 years. In the end, I don't experience overheating in these same cameras. Then cries of, "Yea, but it overheats in hot weather! Waaaaaa!" Yea, I would think most cameras would have issues with filming in hot environments unless they come with built in fans or another cooling system.
    Bottom line. If you think the ZV-E1 will overheat too much - even though you don't even have the camera in your hand - then don't buy the bloody camera. Simple.

    • @ivani6311
      @ivani6311 Рік тому +2

      @@gigihanmandarin I agree. Sometimes ppl want to push the camera a bit too far but in this specific case, I think the camera is just not doing a good job in terms of overheating. If you are a content creator and want to shoot a 1h long podcast, it will overheat. At this price, this is not a good deal

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      On the money my friend. Exactly

  • @Mathew-vlogs
    @Mathew-vlogs Рік тому

    I was thinking about selling my s5ii for this. But the overheating is way too much for me. I live in Florida and even in winter we get about 26c. So this is not for me. Thanks for the video. It really helped me out.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      Only if you constantly record without pressing stop. It really doesn’t effect many in actual real world use

  • @ActuallyDibs
    @ActuallyDibs Рік тому

    40°C in India. I'm glad I bought the FX 30!

  • @godsakes
    @godsakes Місяць тому

    I've tested my to over 4hrs indoors using - 4k 25p but you have to be powering via dummy battery, LCD to the side, ports open, full sized UHS-ii card, metal lens etc - it is possible to use this for long form recording but it's borderline, I did a similar test with a plastic (body) lens and micro sd ushs-i card with adapter and that combo over heated by 1:30hrs

  • @igorkushnir357
    @igorkushnir357 27 днів тому

    Thanks for great job.

  • @BarryJohnson
    @BarryJohnson Рік тому +1

    Thanks for doing this Jason. While I do love the capability of the E1. I would have to go with the FX3 instead.

    • @SianCKB
      @SianCKB Рік тому +2

      Same. I am waiting for the a7siii update(if it ever will ofcourse) because I shoot pictures every now and then..
      Otherwhise I'll go for the fx3.

    • @BarryJohnson
      @BarryJohnson Рік тому +1

      @@SianCKB Yep, we are on the same page.

    • @martin_wood
      @martin_wood Рік тому +1

      @@SianCKB yeah EVF is only thing holding me from the fx3

    • @SianCKB
      @SianCKB Рік тому

      @@martin_wood that and the mechanical shutter. 😆

    • @MarkBennettCameraCrisis
      @MarkBennettCameraCrisis Рік тому +2

      @@SianCKB the fx3 does have mechanical shutter - one less thing holding you back 👍

  • @aCyb90
    @aCyb90 Рік тому +2

    Hey Jason, thanks for your effort into this but how about 1080? will they overheat under sunlight for 30mins?

  • @ben.aka.bigben
    @ben.aka.bigben 2 місяці тому

    A product with that price tag and overheat issue, is a faulty product that should not be sold in the first place. Amazing how easily we accept these flaws and then start to look for weird solution and patches.

  • @abctokyo
    @abctokyo Рік тому +1

    If 1080p is done, does it overheat likewise? Because our ballet company doesn’t really need 4K quality for interviews in UA-cam and Instagram content.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      1080p will last a very long time. Not even an issue

    • @abctokyo
      @abctokyo Рік тому

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema Very appreciated that you take the time to answer our question. Greetings from Tokyo.

  • @gbwalther3198
    @gbwalther3198 Рік тому

    Hope u had a great time in Japan. Soon we should find out if they let you test drive the 2023 APSC camera which we hope beats the Fuji recently released cams in all aspects! Of course this cam better be like FX30 with NO overheating problems. Time will tell. Who knows, Sony might not release anything at all. Maybe, we should all move over to Fuji right now! 😎😎

  • @yoshi-movies
    @yoshi-movies Рік тому

    Great information!
    I think the camera will be enough for 90% of my shoots.
    Thank you!!!

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +2

      Yes as for most. Some people will complain but not ever be in a situation where it will overheat

  • @michaeltazor
    @michaeltazor Рік тому +1

    Sorry this Sony ZVE1 can't be justified, all vlogger wanted is a full frame camera with perfect stabilization which this camera also owns now. But no camera that overheats so quickly! I don't agree with you saying that vloggers only take short pictures of images. Unless you're a type of influencer vlogger, but people who vlog while traveling certainly aren't. Vloggers like to film in 50fps or 60fps because the images in 24 or 25fps are not smooth. 24 and 25 fps is only good for studio recording but does not show nice smooth images to vlog outside. All sony should have done is mount a small fan in the camera just like the FX30 and then everyone was satisfied. But I don't consider this camera to be a vlogging camera because it is unusable. Or is this the new hype that vloggers have to wait 10min for their camera to cool down? Sony has made a big mistake with this camera.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      Buy the FX3. Fixed

    • @michaeltazor
      @michaeltazor Рік тому

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema Partly fixed you mean because the FX3 does not have this new good dynamic stabilization.

  • @photovideooz4084
    @photovideooz4084 Рік тому +1

    does the white colour version make it better outdoors? I noticed the first test you did was the black version with a recording life of 20-25min, and the 2nd test was done with the white camera with 31min recording.

  • @cucobein
    @cucobein Рік тому

    This camera is interesting to me because of the sensor, but I'm only interested on streaming. Is it going to overheat during a 3-4 hour stream? No recording, only outputting video through HDMI. Let's think of 4k HDMI output. Camera would be powered on by a dummy battery + power supply plugged into a wall outlet.

  • @alphatoinfinity777
    @alphatoinfinity777 Рік тому

    THAAAAANNNK YOOOOUU!! Seriously, I'm still recovering from overheating PTSD from my Xperia 1 iv. Oh no way! I'll save my counseling fees for an Fx3 or something with better cooling. I live in Taiwan and it gets near 40ish in the summer.

  • @tecnolatino5552
    @tecnolatino5552 Рік тому +1

    In my opinion a camera that is marketed for vlogging should not overheat easily. I differ when you mention that vloggers don't record continuously. I have seen hundreds of videos of city tours that exceed 30 minutes straight. For me any camera that overheats is a concern and an unnecessary risk when there are other options that are safer. Thanks for the video and sharing your thoughts!

  • @nickmaximillian1
    @nickmaximillian1 Рік тому

    Amazing video Jason, I think for the size and quality of video It is a great option. I am pretty sold on the camera.
    You mentioned about folders with video at around 11:13 mark, where can I find the link to it?

  • @SianCKB
    @SianCKB Рік тому +2

    I'm getting the ZV-E1 (initially was going for the A7siii) but I think for filmmaking I could use this. I will always use 4k24/30 anyway 4k60/120 in bursts for slow mo shots so I don't think overheating will be a problem. only downside to me is the tiny HDMI port so no RAW PRORES.. not that I really shoot raw, I think the internal recording with slog 3 in 10bit is enough anyway :D

    • @BitcoinSinFronteras
      @BitcoinSinFronteras Рік тому

      Don't buy it just because is a new camera... is not worth it my friend

    • @SianCKB
      @SianCKB Рік тому +2

      @@BitcoinSinFronteras I currently have an a6400 so the difference will be huge anyway.. 😅 also my next cam would 100% be an a7siii/fx3 but those are out of budget. That's pretty much the reason O buy the zv-e1.
      Otherwhise I would go for the Lumix S5ii but I don't want to change brands. 😜

    • @fotomaton7852
      @fotomaton7852 Рік тому +2

      Pay closer attention to his tests, he got the camera to overheat in 15 minutes outdoors shooting in 4K25p. This camera has severe overheating issues at ALL frame rates. For filmmaking this camera would be a nightmare, your entire set could be put to a stall in a matter of minutes. I'd advise just about any camera on the market but this one for that particular purpose! Not to mention ZVE1 isn't that cheap, you can get a lot of options for that price including an FX30 that has a built-in fan and actual real cine features.. just saying.

    • @SianCKB
      @SianCKB Рік тому +1

      @@fotomaton7852 I noticed but every review says something else.. 1 says they didn't get it to overheat.. the other says it overheated..
      We'll have to wait and see for the production model 😅

    • @SianCKB
      @SianCKB Рік тому +1

      @@fotomaton7852 also I just started with filmmaking so it will be low budget stuff haha

  • @demmapremium
    @demmapremium Рік тому +1

    How about put the cooling fan like a smartphone cooling fan, into the back of body, does it help reduce the heat?

  • @MasterNengLee
    @MasterNengLee 6 місяців тому

    Awesome review! Does your ZVE1 have a loose micro hdmi port? I’m not sure if this is normal because on some of Sony’s camera they have Floating structure hdmi port design to relieve stress/froce. My ZVE1 has a pretty loose port moving back/forth. Just wanted to ask if other owers have similar port.

  • @arnisbrown5848
    @arnisbrown5848 Рік тому

    Jason, love these practical tests. Makes me wonder also how much throwing on a fan (know of one made for the 6500) with a thermal pad would help as well. Do you know if using clear image zoom you can get away with using APS-C lenses without the crop/vignetting? That'd be a uniquely appealing feature, especially with the bump of dual ISO.

  • @MohammadEhsanYousaf
    @MohammadEhsanYousaf Рік тому

    Jason I am using sony a7iv with sony vertical grip (sony vg-c4em) and i did not notice any overheating issue at many outdoor situations. sony cameras may be overheated due to battery temperature. ☺

  • @johncolglazier4639
    @johncolglazier4639 Рік тому

    Great work. Did you use the Sony tough v90 sd card? I wonder how much longer record times would be in different codecs.

  • @noisackda2564
    @noisackda2564 Рік тому +1

    Been waiting for this!

    • @HANKBRAVO81
      @HANKBRAVO81 Рік тому

      So…you keeping your pre-order? I’ve sent my A7iii off for trade-in. Until I seen this video and Andy escapes to today, I was buying the A7iv. Hmmmmm.

    • @noisackda2564
      @noisackda2564 Рік тому +1

      @@HANKBRAVO81 Yeah It's a non-issue for me personally. The longest I shoot is 10 min tops. My biggest concern is how the camera will perform with my stop-and-go style of shooting. Like, will it still overheat if I shoot for three minutes, then two, then another 5 minutes. Also, is 120p going to be possible? I might cancel my order and wait and see TBH.

    • @HANKBRAVO81
      @HANKBRAVO81 Рік тому +1

      @@noisackda2564 yeah that’s true. It’s more about heat building up in the body isn’t it? But, tbh, I can’t see it being an issue for 90% of its target audience. Start/stop recording bursts. Sony will be aware of the heat build up and will likely release 4K 120 along with revised heat management all round. Otherwise, it will be a complete fail. I’m inclined to wait and hold my store credit but longer I wait, the longer the pre-order list gets. Hmmmm. I’m in two minds. I can pick up an A7IV right now for less money.

    • @noisackda2564
      @noisackda2564 Рік тому +1

      @@HANKBRAVO81 You know what? Just get it and test it out, If it does overheat then return it. I think it's a standard 30-day return policy for most electronics. That's plenty of time to test.

    • @HANKBRAVO81
      @HANKBRAVO81 Рік тому +1

      @@noisackda2564 it’s what I’m leaning to. It will be great learning experience before stepping up to FX3. I looked at FX30 like yours (fantastic camera) but I love my Sigma 24-70 and want utilise it fully. People are concerned about this camera but just watch…the image and what people create is going to do all the talking. Look forward to your vlogs with it 👌🏻

  • @earliamdapter
    @earliamdapter Рік тому

    Thank you for sharing another amazing video again, Jason! I love you shared the overheating data. I am now so confused about ZV-E1. This camera is amazing since it has A7s3 sensor and is able to take 4k 60 without crop and jello effects, but I can’t really use 4K60fps because of the overheating. 😢

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      If super long record times what you need I suggest FX30 or FX3

    • @fabianpetrescu
      @fabianpetrescu Рік тому

      How come you are not mentioning the most obvious alternative, the a7sii?
      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema

  • @DMProductions
    @DMProductions Рік тому

    So potentially using this in a studio to do a talking head video you have about 30 mins before it overheats

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      In colder temps aircon room there is no issue. Only if the room is hot above regular room temp

    • @DMProductions
      @DMProductions Рік тому

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema uk we’ll be fine then 😂

  • @imranalijafar
    @imranalijafar Рік тому +1

    Please find out how long it will run at 4k 60fps in 33 C before it over heats.

  • @matthiaseckert7344
    @matthiaseckert7344 Рік тому +1

    Hey Jason,
    can you record internally and externally simultaniously with the atomos ninja 5 in 4k 60p with the sony e1?
    I am afraid of loosing footage, when the sd card corrupts.
    Thanks

  • @63MacGuy
    @63MacGuy Рік тому +1

    Great video! Did you test at different file formats? I use XAVC S 4K. Record settings. 8 bit vs 10 bit.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      Sorry no. Way too long to do this. Between each test I wait a couple of hours for the camera to return back to regular temp this these tests were over two weeks

    • @63MacGuy
      @63MacGuy Рік тому

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema thanks Jason!

  • @bluedeskfan2754
    @bluedeskfan2754 Рік тому

    I knew there had to be a trade off. Overheating is a bit of a deal breaker

  • @ScalzoPhoto
    @ScalzoPhoto Рік тому +1

    What about these potential solutions?
    1. When you hit record, wrap the camera in a small, thick WHITE BLANKET(wool or similar) acting as insulation to block the sunlight from heating up the camera, leave blanket open on bottom for air flow...
    Wool is great because it is breathable but also insulates.
    ALSO - If the camera is on a tripod, use an small UMBRELLA or object to block the sun. The solution to direct sunlight is BLOCKING the effects of direct sunlight, which is stronger than air temperature alone.
    2. Open the LCD screen, put a small 1.5" USB fan on the back of the camera, to cool and circulate the air. Similar to what camera fans do.
    3. Carry a small cooler with DRY ICE or sealed ice cubes, cut a hole for the lens to poke out. Don't use too much ice where it freezes of course, just a little. This idea is less practical, but it is an idea.
    4. Build a shoebox sized insulated box, cut a hole for the lens, hit record and the light will be blocked from hitting the camera. Put a fan at the bottom to remove heat. Have a second hole for air to enter of course.
    So basically, it is a compact camera when needed, which is great, but maybe there are custom solutions for long recording situations

    • @Giovanni-Giorgio
      @Giovanni-Giorgio Рік тому

      These solutions sure make the camera more portable 😂

    • @ScalzoPhoto
      @ScalzoPhoto Рік тому +1

      @@Giovanni-Giorgio I was suggesting that at times when you DON'T need the camera to be portable and fit in the pocket. Similar to buying a compact car with a trailer hitch. Some days you drive a compact car, but you have the option to attach a trailer and do more.
      The main time one would do a long recording is in specific situations where they don't want the recording to stop unexpectedly.

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      That is hectic. I would just suggest to buy FX3 if longer record times are needed

    • @ScalzoPhoto
      @ScalzoPhoto Рік тому

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema Of course, but that defeats the purpose of a compact camera that fits in your pocket. 95% of the time it is great as is, I was just thinking of the few times when someone might want an uncut long recording.
      If someone has $2,100 in the bank to throw at a camera, they most likely have $ for the fx3. That is a LUXURY PURCHASE for many people
      People are missing the point of a COMPACT camera which is ment to go with you everywhere, especially when traveling. Perhaps the Fx3 is small enough, maybe that might be considered a compact camera in a way. Not sure if it can fit in a person's jacket pocket.

    • @Giovanni-Giorgio
      @Giovanni-Giorgio Рік тому

      @@ScalzoPhoto I get the idea of pocket sized cameras. But does it fit your pocket in reality. Sure the lenses are smaller for cameras like zv-e10. But mosr full-frame lenses tend to be a bit bigger (Except pancake prime lenses). I tried the zv-e10 but only with the tiny kitlens it fitted my jacket pocket. I carry a compact shoulder bag just big enough for the my a7iv + 24-70. I have the camera out just a bit slower than when it would be in my pocket. The a7iv doesn't feel that much bigger and i don't need a small cage for better grip. But that's personal. Wrapping the zv-e10 with materials doesn't make it portable and easy to handle. Taking a blanket or box with dry ice isn't either in my opinion. Maybe the usb fan works but it drains battery if the usb-c port on the camera body supports it, not sure. When using a rig with external battery it might work if you need to record longer walking around. Most of the time it sits on a tripod with longer record times i agree. But a tripod doesn't fit a pocket and you need that bag or strap. I might still buy a zv-e1 for b-roll.

  • @gracesmith5021
    @gracesmith5021 Рік тому

    Great video mate! It makes sense why they have not released 4k 120 fps for this camera. lol. I really wonder how much it will go on 60 fps at 35 degrees, maybe 5 minutes? One of the reasons why someone would prefer this camera over A7M4 or A7R5 could be its 60fps without a crop or 120 fps. They could have implemented a better heatsink atleast. fans would kill the battery life! Yeah then again, if they did that, it would have killed their A7s3 & FX3 cameras!

  • @spiegelmann82
    @spiegelmann82 Рік тому +1

    Would be nice to know if its better with dummy battery.

  • @rogeriogomesosorio4755
    @rogeriogomesosorio4755 Рік тому

    1:35 it’s all very nice… but if this for vloggers first and, because of it, there’s the excuse to overheat when used for longer times, well maybe no one would complain if the price would be much lower. But, in Europe, price is around 2700 euros and, for that price, we deserve a camera that does not behave so poorly in this chapter

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      Price can’t be lowered due to its specs compared to the rest. Buy FX3 if overheating is an issue

  • @aymanmohsen2020
    @aymanmohsen2020 Рік тому

    Do you have any information, or do you think A7RV will get the same of Autoframing like ZV-E1. I need that very bad and I am still waiting to decide which one I should get. But definitely, 10 min records time is not enough for me to get ZV-E1 🥺 I wich if at least 30 min minimum record time in the hot environment 😤
    Thanks For your great work 👍

  • @OneTakeMedias
    @OneTakeMedias Рік тому +1

    I feel like sony was so close but so far it’s sad. Manage a way for a $10 fan in the system a little bigger body to fit the fan and a second sd slot card and it would have been perfect

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      It’s not about the fan, it’s about the size. They wanted smaller size. For a fan they have FX3. That is everyone’s fix

    • @OneTakeMedias
      @OneTakeMedias Рік тому

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema yes I’m just trying to find a camera for wedding film with the same specs and features as the Zv-e1 just with a dual sim slots

    • @OneTakeMedias
      @OneTakeMedias Рік тому +1

      Oh yeah and not $4,0000

  • @ollebroms7185
    @ollebroms7185 Рік тому

    Hello, have you tried the camera with a dummy battery? I had problem with my Sony A7 III and overheating. I was devastated by this issue and researched a lot at the time. A lot of people were giving advice to fold out the screen and having the battery lid open but that only gave some extra time. The thing that made it record for unlimited time was using a dummy battery.

  • @whittymusic
    @whittymusic Рік тому

    streaming times in 1080????

  • @localdiscgolf
    @localdiscgolf Рік тому

    What card were you using during the tests? Native Sony card? If you didn’t, would you test this? Curious!

  • @nelsonpun
    @nelsonpun Рік тому

    Does the white one overheat less?

  • @cubdukat
    @cubdukat Рік тому

    I wonder how much it would actually cost Sony to put a cooling fan in there, especially since they managed to do it for the FX3, which uses the same sensor. Why would they put that kind of sensor in a body like that without some method to cool it down?

  • @salmansiddiquefilms
    @salmansiddiquefilms Рік тому

    Nobody is talking about overheating performance in Full HD?

  • @LoizosLoizou-p1e
    @LoizosLoizou-p1e 11 місяців тому

    IN FULL HD IS OVERHEADING?

  • @Mr.Plutonium
    @Mr.Plutonium Рік тому +1

    FX30/3 heat test?

  • @lvc394
    @lvc394 Рік тому

    I wonder if you can cool it by blowing air in the battery opening?

  • @tianh360
    @tianh360 Рік тому

    I mainly captured video my kid and travel. I do slomo 120 fps to help stablize the footage. Should I get the E1 or a7siii? I like the small form factor though.

  • @mazzfotovideo
    @mazzfotovideo 10 місяців тому

    My zve1 turn off 10 minutes 😢

  • @georgelin6472
    @georgelin6472 Рік тому

    So I guess if you got a black one, outdoor it would heat up faster? Would be interesting to see if black vs white matter in camera color

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому +1

      I did the outdoor overheating test and it didn’t seem to matter what Color

  • @Virksomhedsvideo
    @Virksomhedsvideo 29 днів тому

    Can the ZV E1 film in 2k res? 😮

  • @AudioHotline
    @AudioHotline Рік тому

    Is this karma for Sony Users making fun of the Canon R5’s overheating? 😂
    Thank you for the info! I was thinking of pairing this with my other Sony Cameras for an additional angle but I am often running my cameras for well over an hour. Now I am leaning toward the FX3 and A7S III.

  • @toneohm
    @toneohm Рік тому

    Gerald lives in British Columbia.., Canada.. right? so i can't see there being much humidity.. while in Australia, its probably hot AF..
    So,, I got a Z Cam S6 recently.., i plan to use that for any pro work, and the ZV-E1 for personal stuff for UA-cam when on my own.. but it would be nice to do lol passion projects with it.. I'm thinking maybe the white one would be better for outdoors so it doesn't absorb heat as much (how big of a difference it will make, idk..)
    but either way,, your numbers are way different than Geralds.. could his have been a little more polished? aren't they both technically prototype/reviewer versions? hmm... the consistency or lack thereof., is a bit unsettling... and then considering you got 5 more minutes record time after the initial overheat, very bizarre.. either way, glad to see more time being put into this.. there's so many videos up on this camera but everyone is trying to say the same things.., i'm glad you're trying to get more specific on what you're covering on it.. thanks

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      Yeah. I’m just trying to add more data points for people to see what it can do

  • @luminari_productions
    @luminari_productions 8 місяців тому

    Even at 720p 30fps streaming as a webcam via usbc it overheated around 25 minutes.

  • @squirtle4519
    @squirtle4519 5 місяців тому

    Which codes create most heat?

  •  Рік тому

    How good is the full HD or this cameras? It over heat un HD?

  • @canwefixit8129
    @canwefixit8129 Рік тому

    What are you talking about? You said the ZV-1 does 4k 15 frames per second? Cameras don't record video at 15 frames per second. The ZV-1 is capable of 4k 24, 4k 25 and 4k 30 frames per second.

  • @prozekutor
    @prozekutor Рік тому

    too much to worry about for the price... a proper heatsink would have made the camera slighty bigger but at least usable in all conditions. a toy with premium internals for a premium price.

  • @tjrsasea
    @tjrsasea Рік тому +2

    Where is the fix?

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      External record

    • @skepsys
      @skepsys Рік тому

      ​​​​​@@JasonMorrisphotocinema so, buy a $2200 camera, a $800 ff lens, and some $400 recorder to vlog around your house (im exaggerating, but it was shown in sony's presentation video). if sony's main idea was to make the camera small, how will it be small anymore with an external recorder attached? and what vloggers know how to handle that?
      about a $3500 setup. who are those vloggers able to afford this?
      and about what u said about price being not possible to be lower due to specs.. nobody asked for fx3's sensor in a vlogger camera. given the choice between a more normal ff sensor and fx3, while making the camera actually affordable for vloggers, i think its obvious what ppl would have chosen.
      and about that fx3 sensor, who films at 12,800 anyways? more usable would have been 3,200 or 4,000 like in a7iv or s5. afaik, fx3 is outperformed by those cameras at values under 12,800. what, are vloggers filming at night mainly?
      youtubers are pushing this too hard. let it go, its a failed product..

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      @@skepsys I’m just giving people info about it. Who else is? 🤷🏽‍♂️

    • @gbwalther3198
      @gbwalther3198 Рік тому

      @@skepsys Amen!

  • @MestreMur
    @MestreMur Рік тому

    Great for Panama 🇵🇦..., all year 28 - 36 degrees

  • @paulchiu
    @paulchiu Рік тому

    Jason, doe shooting in HLG3 mode makes it get hotter than s-log or cinetone? Thanks.

  • @SergeyBach
    @SergeyBach Рік тому

    Hello! What about 4K 24fps but 4.2.0 ? 🙂

  • @thebaolerina
    @thebaolerina Рік тому

    Does it overheat on 1080@60?

  • @owlmostdead9492
    @owlmostdead9492 Рік тому +1

    Now imagine Sony made this camera 5mm thicker and indoor overheating wouldn't be a thing.

  • @joseluisdocampo213
    @joseluisdocampo213 Рік тому

    can you record simultaneously on the atoms ninja v and the sd ?

  • @anthonyrubio1194
    @anthonyrubio1194 Рік тому

    what is good camera to buy in the 1500 range but I am open to spend a little more if I am going to get better quality camera

  • @seblx
    @seblx Рік тому +1

    Hi Jason, thanx a lot for the video and the test!
    Could somebody tell me if 1080p is ok during 3 hours?
    I already own 2 fx3 and a A7iv.
    I do pro multicamera and conferences.
    I pre-order the zv-e1 for my "top shots" or "gimbal shots".
    But i wish it will record for long in hd!!!
    Anyway i will sell it if not...
    I live in france so it sometimes hot...but not always..
    Thanxxxxx!!

    • @JasonMorrisphotocinema
      @JasonMorrisphotocinema  Рік тому

      Yes. 1080p it is fine. Much longer record times. Big difference between 1080 and 4k

    • @good_morning504
      @good_morning504 Рік тому +1

      @@JasonMorrisphotocinema How big exactly? I record in 1080p a lot and I need at least 3 to 4 hours of constant recording with no issues.