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25K Mile Review ||| FZ-09
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- Опубліковано 3 тра 2016
- My thoughts and opinions after 25K miles on my 2014 Yamaha FZ-09. Long term review.
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**NOTE - no turns were made during the filming of this video.
+MonsterChuck I've never seen a more boring road. In the UK even our straight roads aren't straight :-)
+MonsterChuck LOL I didnt notice that, probably because i generally dont talk thru turns and when I do my cuts I only keep talking parts on a review video such as this. Very astute observation tho, thanks for watching.
+steve wallace Yup I agree as well, there a really fun roads in AZ but this wasnt one of them. Thanks for watching.
MonsterChuck 😂😂😂
Awesome review man! This is the kind of mileage review I like to see. Make sure to explain the long term review in the description so the search engine picks it up. This deserves a ton of views
Put it in the description, thanks for the suggestion and the kind words!
Great review. The FZ09 was my first bike as a beginner. I respect the power and ride within my limits.
Nice man! As long as you do that, you'll be good. Ride safe out there and thanks for watching.
Thanks for the review, I'm really considering buying this bike next year. for future reviews I would recommend this though: talk about the "petty nuisances" like if you like/dislike the button layouts, whether your knee gets scorched on the engine cover, whether your foot gets baked by the exhaust, etc. Otherwise, great review!
Good review overall. I use my bike as a commuter and my ride into work is just over an hour one way, in Los Angeles traffic, and I have over 43,000 miles currently on my bike! This thing is a great bike and if you maintain it, as you mentioned, it's been a solid investment.
I adjusted my own suspension and it's been great, no suspension upgrade really needed. I personally think a lot of owners sink way too much money in a budget bike, but to each his own. I put on a tail tidy, front wind screen, to deflect the wind off my chest for the long commute, and switched out the horrid looking turn signals for the sweet Graves minimalist ones. A total of about $200 in upgrades and have gotten tons of compliments on the looks.
I've been riding in SoCal since 1992, and I'm a professionally trained rider. This bike is still one of the best bikes you can buy, even at it's crazy low price for what you get. You can sink thousands of dollars into upgrades, many aren't really needed and/or street riders don't benefit a lot from, but if you have the disposable cash to do them it'll at least look cool.
Stay safe and keep the rubber side down!
8654 Zulu Foxtrot
How’s it holding up?
Great perspective - if you want a race bike or more power - buy a crotch rocket and be done with it.
Hope to see you on the road soon! Keep up the great editing
+DiScorpio thanks man, should be back in a couple weeks.
Just saw the conversation about flashing the ECU.. thanks for yet another heads up.
+Phoenix Moore Yup highly suggest that one, learn from my errors to prevent them in your own riding experience
agreed with everything you said! funny you mention the test drive because I rode this at a demo day and thats what pretty much sold me over a new ZX-6R, absolutely amazing bike for the money. great vid
Thanks man!!!!
defiantly my next bike
I saw you riding past Southern and Palo Verde. I live a few miles away from the Palo Verde power plant
Your neighborhood is so neat and tidy! New sub, thanks for a great review. I am a FZ-07 rider, my first bike and am very interested in the 09. Do you always ride it in A mode?
Great review bro. Thanks
GREAT Vid!! Great improvements.. is there an after market speedo cluster available? I hate this one! Huge thanx for the advice about the ATE Cam chain tensioner.. You have a new subscriber now. Thanks again!
+Phoenix Moore Thank you for your kind words and for subscribing!!! I do not know of an aftermarket speedo/cluster, if you find one let me know!
Good review! I'm getting this as my first bike :D
Thanks for watching! And you won't be disappointed , this is an amazing bike
Haha ridin' in Buckeye! Cheers from the East Valley!
I test rode the 2014 FZ09 and the 2015 FZ09 and I really liked the lightweight nimbleness and the motor is awesome.Though when I went through some twisties I could feel the rear tire not hooking up right and than I gave it gas and it pushed out the rear a little.I want the FZ09 motor but I want the Traction Control and ABS brakes and suspension upgrade.So I have been looking at the FJ09 and the new XSR 900.I found some great deals on the 2015 Yamaha FJ09.So if I can't afford the FJ09 or the new XSR900 than I will go with a 2015 Yamaha FJ09.I will try to sort out the suspension and just enjoy the motorcycle and change things like you did.The seat will probably the first thing to change.Thankyou for your excellent review!!
Thanks for watching man and taking the time to comment. All ur thought certainly make sense to me
Just got one new! Just gotta wait for the snow to go away and go for a rip!
currently saving up to get a MT/FZ 09 as my fun/touring bike just love the sound of a triple
due to its price it is a great platform to customize into the riders needs and be a great machine for a lot of years and miles
planned mods
GPR exhaust and flash tune
screen to mount when touring
CCT when the original fails (just changed the original on my klx 250s efi)
suspension both front and rear
tail tidy kit
and last bar mirror and some other grips
Love everything in ur comment, sounds like u got it all figured out. I hope u get it, they are awesome bikes!
same here currently mustering currage to ask boss for a raise :P
great review!! keep it up
Thanks for your kind words!
“Torque Monster” haha. Yes! I love my FZ. 😋
Master of Torque .
get a stirring stabilizer just got mine the other day and its worth ever penny
I've been looking at those and just recently saw and felt one in person, really liked it. Definitely on my shopping list! Thanks revbomb
Great review!
Thank you!!
Agentcox, when do you recommend replacing the cam chain tensioner? At what mileage did you replace yours? Was it difficult to install and set?
Its my first bike and I love it. easy to ride, good power and looks great.
+grasam86 Glad to hear, stay safe out there! Thanks for watching
Watch out ...I see a curve ahead
This is my first naked/sport bike after 8 years cruising on Roadstar :) great bike, still scares me sometimes :) fast, fast... Best regards from Poland, ride safe men
+WITT33 Thanks for watching!!! Yes I still get that "scare" as well. Really fun bike though
The video sound is pretty good, beyond my imagination
What’s the longest trip you’ve taken on this bike? And was it comfortable for that ride? I’m switching from a ninja zx6 which is horrible for long rides
I heard from other owners the new 2017 model was a bit more “beginner friendly” because they addressed the throttle? Is this true?
Great review! How long did you go with the m4 exhaust on the bike before the valve issue? I have the m4 on my fz09 and am concerned how long i can go without a tune/flash. thinking the graves block off plates might be a bandaid fix for now.
I went approx 10k. Had the block off plates as well. Probably no real substitute for a tune or flash. thanks for watching and the kind words!
sweet review man... do you have a power commander on there?
Getting one put on for sure
It was my first bike too it has to grow on you 👌🏾
+SAM FZ-09 RYDER Oh ya, I took it real easy at first. Thanks for watching
Mine too! Almost 4000 on mine. You just have to be safe and respect it. Get to know her.
This was also my first bike and would agree it's not what would/could/should be labelled as a first bike.
With that being said, it's definitely possible to have it as a first with no issue. Just gotta take it nice and slow and progress like you would any other way.
True that brotha. As long as you are capable of impulse control (most young adults are not LOL), you can certainly tame this beast as ur first bike
Do you guys recommend buying one from a dealer with 15k miles 2014 ?
Just bought a blue 2016 yesterday. Do you live in Arizona by chance?
"This is not a beginner bike, this is my first bike" .... lol
Thanks for watching
Same
Im coming from a scooter to this. Is this a bad choice for a bike?
I got my FZ8 flashed by vcyclenut a few months ago. Cool dude -- he's here in Florida (as am I) and the flash makes a huge difference. I've heard the power commander compliments the flash really well. However, I'd say the flash is a much better deal for what you get vs the PC. I just hit 20k on my 8 so I'm going to be doing a similar review on my channel!
Great review man! Everything was well said and relatable to my FZ8.
Thanks for the kind words!!
Absolutely brother! Did you also install a high flow air filter with your ECU flash? I went with BMC on my bike.
+jake2wheels never flashed the ECU and I'm running OEM filter
+agentcox000 Ah, sorry! I must have misunderstood when I watched the video. (I was multitasking at the time lol)
+jake2wheels lol no worries. Should have but hindsight is 20/20
It is most definitely a fantastic 2nd bike.
1st bike. No regrets
Leaning between a 650 V, an f800gt or the fz09. Having 125 hp bikes I don't see the need for the power 80 mph is 80 mph and even a 250 can easily maintain 80 mph... Filtering is the main reason to select a bike and mpg... The 15 fz09 is 7999, used 14 f800gt is 7999 with many upgrades and bags, the 12 650 Vstrom is 4999.00 with 4k miles... with upgrades... May end up with the 650, for reliability and insurance costs. Currently riding an 07 tiger 1050... Recently sat on a 15 red fz09 and it was pretty nice (hard seat)...
Was waiting to hear about the MPG from the fz09 is getting. f800gt 60 mpg, 650 v 50 to 55mpg...
F800 is a good bike for carpal tunnel syndrome. Cheaply made with a rotax? non bmw engine (which might be a good thing) and hard to sell.
What's the motor issue
Is that az like Arizona close to phx.
the fz09 was on my list of considered bikes, til i learned it had a 3.5 gallon tank. With my commute, 60 miles round trip, I'd be at the pump every two days, lol! Still, it is a killer bike!
Get a couple of 5 gal cans and refill at home.
Great job on the review. I've had my eyes set on the 2016 armor gray model for months now. I need some thing that will surely put a smile on my face rather than relying on a woman to do it. lol
Hahahaha best comment ever
I collect my 2017 MT/FZ 09 on the 4th march. it's my first bike and I'm getting a little nervous lol
How's it going so far? Alot to handle in the beginning?
Hasn't replied RIP
i think it would be an alright first bike if they leave it in eco mode
Michael Statik Exactly what I did and highly recommend for new riders. Just leave it in B mode until experience level is higher.
What kind of engine problem are you having? Would be great to know as I took one for a test ride today and loved it.
+OZrider&beyond My exhaust valve on cylinder 1 developed a hole in it due to the motor run super lean. Should have flashed my ecu after the exhaust swap to my M4. Currently getting it replaced and a valve adjustment. :-(
+agentcox000 glad it's getting fixed and hopefully at reasonable price? I bought the go-09 I took for a test ride. Amazing fun bike.
Ya love this bike! It's a bit of a salty fix, but it was due for a valve adj anyway
just picked one up for 4500 with 5k miles on it... fully decked in aftermarket parts:D
what year did you pick up?
I'm thinking about getting a 2015 fz09 with 25k miles whats your opinion ?
Benjamminoutdoors did you get it? And how much did you pay for it?
@@TuanLe-kv3sc No one ever answers.
I've ridden about 400,000 miles on motorcycles just to give an idea on my experience. The main reason this isn't a starter motorcycle for those new and considering it is the power it delivers. As a new rider, you could probably get away with getting this bike if you kept it on B mode for your first 10k miles. In my opinion, B mode, behaves much like a regular motorcycle and is much more forgiving than the other modes. If you try and learn on the the std or A modes, it isn't forgiving and if you make a small mistake and grip the throttle on a bump or aren't familiar with throttle control, you can EASILY give it too much power on accident. When you give a motorcycle like this too much power, you grip the handlebars hard to hold on, which then turns the throttle on more putting more power into it and making the problem much worse. If you've rode a cruiser bike or even a racer, you won't understand just how fast it puts power to the wheel when you turn the throttle. An experienced rider on any bike will recognize the mistake he's making when this happens, a novice won't until it's too late. If you've ever seen a video of a new rider who gives it a little gas and the bike takes off, then the grip it tighter and it floors the power and they hit a car or tree, etc...that's the danger a novice can get into with this bike and not just from a stopped position but around turns too. Hope this explanation helps a little.
+Joe K. Absolutely agree 100% with all statements made above! Thanks for taking the time to elaborate and for watching my video.
Joe K. Or just pull the clutch....😂 problem solved
@@waysideturnip7238 the inexperienced forget that toooooo
@@JuiceBanger1 I'm still alive lol. And started on an fz09 I have put 21 k miles on in a year. 10/10 starter bike.
@@waysideturnip7238 goodjob. I was thinking off the people who get on a bike and zoom towards a wall or tree and panic and dont do anything to stop......thrush inexperience
what engine problem?
How about a power commander
Hey dude! Quick question, what brand of handlebars did you get???
ProTaper EVO charmichael bend
Thanks!!
Cool Vid
Thanks man. Just watched Jiggawatz ride ur beast! Looks like an awesome bike!
can you link your handlebar
with u being a big guy like myself, is there a big difference in the fz07? im looking for my first bike also.
There is a HUGE difference between the two. I started on the 07 and am now on the 09. I thoroughly enjoyed the 07, but it was a physically small bike and didn't have the top end I was looking for with my longer 250+ mile each way trips a couple times a month. The 09 in B mode feels like the power I had in my 07 with a full exhaust and tune.
SuperGankBros so if i decided to do something crazy and get a fz09, just leave it in B mode i guess.
Nice video I shall sub xD
Just made up my mind to get the 09
2017 model?
So you burned a valve after installing after market exhaust?Or what?What caused the problem?I.m thinking about trading my 2016 FZ-07 in on a 2017 FZ-09 but will be leaving it stock like my FZ-07.
his mechanic said it was *possibly* due to the aftermarket exhaust making it run a bit lean. an ecu flash might have saved it
Power commander will help
Its like having a regular bicycle with a 850cc engine in it , or a dirtbike with a 850cc engine thats why it feels toque
Can any one tell me about milage of this bike fz-09
Planning on getting this as my first sport bike (coming off a Harley NEVER AGAIN) and I plan to get the Akra exhaust and a power commander. Will I still need to flash my ECU or is the PC good enough?
I would suggest it yes
Meh, the fz09 was my first bike and I'd totally recommend it. When the bike is left in B mode, it pretty tame. Which helped an awful lot with learning to ride the bike and ride in general.
I am just curious, is all the upgrades required for better handling, performance for a regular rider such as myself. I don't do canons, track, etc. will a regular Joe be satisfied with a stock fz09.
More than satisfied!!! The stock bike absolutely tears it up. I personally just can help but tweak and modify my bike, but you can not go wrong leaving it stock.
+agentcox000 I am still debating what bike to purchase. fz09, street fighter or s1000r. the price and a calling for me with the fz09.
+Nate Taylor well you sir have a very tough decision, I love my fz-09 but if at the time of purchase I could have afforded the s1000r .... I'd be on a BMW. The BMW is an amazing piece of engineering: more tunable and more creature comforts. It's on the short list for my next bike
How much is what did you pay for this bike ?.
how tall are you
hey brother. in in phoenix az and also an fz-09 fan. let me know if you get your bike fixed, maybe we can go ride!
i got it fixed!
I'm back up and running. Usually post when I ride on my Instagram page, come out sometime
hey man what was the actual engine prob after this vid I ride a fz09 as well
Blew the exhaust valve on cylinder 1. Bike was running too lean after installing M4 exhaust, should have flashed ECU
agentcox000 damn I should get my bike flashed then. I have 4k miles on my bike right now I have a 2016 with a M4 exhaust. How much did you spend ?
How do you keep your bike so damn clean after 25k miles.
Lots of love and maintenance. If it don't shine, it ain't mine .... lol
Yo I'm right around the corner from you in Glendale
Nice! If you see me on the streets chase me down and say hey
+agentcox000 we can play fz09 tag. Mine and yours lol
What's the difference between MT-09 and FZ-09?
Mt-09 is the designation they give for bikes that are not imported into the USA. Also I believe the mt-09 had abs as an available option. Other than that no difference
I own the same year and color could you please tell me what's up with your motor
+Ninjadixxion My exhaust valve on cylinder 1 developed a hole in it due to the motor run super lean. Should have flashed my ecu after the exhaust swap to my M4.
+agentcox000 ok cool thanks I just changed mine to a full system gotta get it flashed
What am I missing about the famous FZ09?
I just sold my 2014 Daytona 675R to get the FZ 09 which I didn't like after test riding it.
The FZ09 fits me so well, everyone raves about it and I was ready to buy it. Walked in with cash in hand very exited to take the bike home right after the test ride.
However.....I test rode it and was very disappointed when I noticed how cheaply/clumsy was made (which I can understand it is a budget bike after all and anyone buying it is paying for the awesome engine first everything else second) the seat was crap, brakes so so, suspension a pogo stick, very unstable at high speeds (over 100 mph), the mirrors kept moving left and right, and so did the blinkers they kept shaking at any speed ?!
I am sure that with an additional $1000-2000 this could be a great bike.
Maybe it wasn't well put together, maybe the tire pressure was off or maybe I am too heave for it... I don't know...
Maybe it's just me because I was expecting a Triumph experience and quality?! I am not sure
I love mine man, sorry your experience wasn't the same. It definitely needs some upgrades to make it better, but maybe it's just not the right bike for u?
You are right...I am just way picky lol
+E.S. BiH lol nothing wrong with that! Sooo many options out there to chose from. Finding the right one for you is the fun part
That orange turn lights are retro, aren'they...
+IDtechno LOL definitely on my list to swap out.
you gotta be thinking about a valve check no ??
These FZ series bikes are just fucking GORGEOUS man!!!! In my opinion, Naked Bikes are looking better and better compared to S.S. Bikes, Seriously!!!
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for watching
A used goldwing 1500 was my first bike. I quickly learned not to park in a parking spot that was downhill. It wasn't recommended as a first bike either for a different reason...weight. I never dropped it. I bought a tracer a month ago and it feels like a bicycle. I still have the 25 year old wing and have put 40k on it. Did all the maintenance myself ....timing belts, tire changes (A lot of work) and will do the same for the tracer.... more maintenance but easier to do.
Pay attention to your maintenance intervals.
Thanks for the tip
What kind of handle bars did you put on there?
ProTaper EVOs Charmichael bend
+agentcox000 thanks, looking to get myself some also!
No problem, anytime
What was the motor issue?
burnt exhaust valve
moral of the story, correct the fueling after making engine changes
So if the cat is deleted does that mean it needs a flash or something?
What Pipe are you using...just bought a brand new '16 - 09
Looks like you are riding in Bakersfield, ca.
Good ole buckeye az. It's definitely got its flat spots
+agentcox000 Great review, and good to see longevity on these! I'm in Goodyear, with 1 month / 1600 miles on my '16 FZ09. Maybe I'll see you on the road, we're practically neighbors =)
Cool! Ya I'm sure we'll run into one another, if you ever see me run me down and say hey, ill do the same!
I was also cautioned about buying a 2015 FZ-09 as a first bike. Nearly killed myself that first day ;). Now after 8k, it's a great fun bike that I'm slowly learning to maintain/upgrade on my own. I love the handling, the power and response - at all speeds. Yes, this thing flies, and pulls you off of your seat. A-Mode is way too much fun on the highway, and handy to get you out of freeway nasties. No doubt, had I gotten a smaller, less powerful bike (i.e. the FZ-07) I would have very shortly thereafter wanted a bigger bike. BTW, it only took me a couple of days to get a handle on the bike's attitude but yes, even very experienced riders confirm that the FZ-09 is a twitchy monster - so new riders beware. I'm now looking at a FZ-10, but could easily throw a few bags on my 09 and ride that for many years. Thanks for the vid.
FZ09 is great bang for your buck just picked one up the other day.
chuknorth I
That intro though... haha
Any road trips yet?
Not yet, would love too tho
this guy was goin a buck 10 around a long ass turn ahahaha
👍🏼
what's up with the engine problem you have! curious about it! nice video!
+don ervin I melted a hole in the exhaust valve on cylinder 1 due to the bike running too lean. Will be in the shop for another couple weeks. Thanks for watching
+agentcox000 thanks for sharing.
+agentcox000 What all did you do to have caused it to run so lean ? I just picked up my new fz couple days ago and want to put a akra carbon with baffle in on but don't want to flash until winter so i'm curious about your situation
thats from running an exhaust with no flash
curious, was your valves within spec?
any full system will need a flash
what is a good beginner bike then?
Too many variables to accurately answer that. Just depends if you have prior experience like dirt bike, mini bike, ect. Also need to be realistic and honest with yourself and assess your own maturity level. If you're prone to impulsive decision making I would suggest a much smaller bike. It all boils down to setting yourself up for success not failure. I chose the fz-09 because I am a little older, wiser, responsible, and have a family (people relying on me to make it home). I guess my best advice is to be introspective and figure out what's best for you to stay safe on, not what is going to be the most fun. Develop your skills and the fun stuff will come in due time.
I have no experience before with bikes, i definitely want to learn how to ride a motorcycle in the future, i see that they have FZ07 too, well thank you for your well input reply sir...
+Gerwich Saint-Hilaire no problem. Fz-07
would be a great option
Any bike that fits you. If you love it get it. It was my first bike. 6, 7 months, honing my skills getting to know the bike, not doing anything stupid, trying to catch up when riding In groups, which could be dangerous, just take your time. Check mine out. You can get a less powerful bike and get in big trouble if you're not excercising common sense.
JP M i already saw some of your Vlogging though, i like your honest opinions of pros and cons about the bike, thanks for those vids
Did you get the engine sorted?
yes it was a burnt exhaust valve
I bet that was expensive. Good to hear it's back on the road, bro. Keep riding.
Ya ECU flash did an amazing job after repairing the busted exhaust valve
@@jth_1016 Slipon (no engine tune/PC-V), then remove baffle, thousands of lean miles later = burn ex valve.
I know I’m late to the party. Buuut what engine problems did you have
I have the same question.
what do you get for gas mileage? How many miles to a tank?
Dont have an answer for that yet, still setting up my new power commander so its subject to change
+agentcox000 had the bike 25k miles and dont know how many miles you get per fill up lol let me guess your response, "thanks for watching" haha
+Jonathan snyder lol when the question was first asked I only had the PCV for a couple hundred miles so my above statement is valid. Now that I've put on more, I get approx 125 miles per tank depending the type of riding I'm doing.
+agentcox000 not bad i will subscribe, trading in my harley for an fz-09
+Jonathan snyder oh nice man! U won't be disappointed, still love mine
ridding this bitch in Russia 3rd season,10.000 miles,awesome bike
+Action Cam Moto Heck ya, I love it!!!! Thanks for watching!
what motor issue?
+Say Khoon Giam My exhaust valve on cylinder 1 developed a hole in it due to the motor run super lean. Should have flashed my ecu after the exhaust swap to my M4.
+agentcox000 wow
Ya no fun!
+agentcox000 so flash the ECU before or as you're swapping to after market exhaust. gotcha
10-4
I miss my FZ-09 so much. Regret selling it.
Cant imagine not having my baby. Did you get another bike? If so what?
well going by his profile pic, probably some sort of suzuki, probably a hayabusa
Are you in Phoenix ?
Yup, buckeye to be more specific
I have Family that Live there.
To damn Hot in AZ
+Junior pretty hot but no snow shoveling 👍🏼
Haha, true!
The word "fast" is relative...
+Dissentient01 Yes it is. Thanks for watching
Motor issue?? Don't f with me. You scared me there for a sec. Are you referring to the ECU flash?
No I blew an exhaust valve. Watch the vid I posted today
+agentcox000 because you didn't have a pc?
+JP M bike ran too lean for too long
not a beginners bike, put please. what is so hard about this bike? torque? so what? much better than all those beginners buying a supersports in my opinion in terms of compatibility and manoeuvrability to avoid nasty situations. i would say fz 09 can be a beginners bike no problem :)
+Air Doctor Its all subjective, case by case basis i guess. But overall, whether its a naked bike or a supersport, the vast majority of riders should not start with a high cc bike. YYMV. Thanks for watching.
not that my opinion matters but its the internet so ill give it if your a responsible rider which all of us should be and as he said respect the bike there should be no problem starting withthis bike or any naked or ss bike be an adult repect the bike cause at the end of the day the bike will only go as fast as i want it to go
25k and you've gone through a few chains? Stop cleaning them, you're ruining them. A modern o-ring chain should be run dry and clean with minimal lube just to prevent wear on the rollers and sprocket. Try maxima chain wax and stop cleaning your chain so much. You can get 35k out of a chain on a bike like that no problem.
I guy did a test on his channel and said chain wax was the worse and gear oil (messy) was the best for an o-ring chain. Fact / tested not MC mythology. Want a chain to really last? Continous oiler (buddyoiler brand?) 45K+ no special cleaning needed. Want even more miles - Yamaha early 80's XV950? virago - chain was enclosed in plastic and it says in the manual to expect **at least** 38K miles! It is dirt and lack of lube as it gets thrown off that kills the chain. Chain wax is clean & best for show bikes - it still works but not as good as wd40/gear oil.
You've gone through two chains in 25,000 miles. Why?
Fz-09's tend to be hard on chains I guess, always keep it adjusted every 500mi
No way should a modern chain wear out so quickly. I've done 23,000 miles on my chain on my Suzuki B-King and I've hardly had to adjust it. You live in a dry state, and there's no reason FZ-09s should be hard on chains. You shouldn't have to adjust it every 500 miles. You're not running it too tight, are you?
+1990 nope loose is better than tight. I don't know man, most other fz-09 owners all over the forums are only getting around 12k per chain. Not trying to argue with ya
I wonder if the OE chain is poor quality.
Have you got the bike back from the garage yet?
+1990 no, the parts are on backorder until June now. Just learned that an our ago. Pretty unhappy