Steering Dampers Explained-Do You Need One on Your Bike? | MC Garage
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Lots of sportbikes come with a steering damper from the factory, and for those that don’t, plenty of people add them as an accessory. But what do steering dampers do, and do you need one on your motorcycle? I’ll explain in this video from the MC Garage.
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A steering damper, also called a steering stabilizer, is essentially suspension for your steering. Just as your fork and shock control the vertical motion of your wheels, a steering damper regulates the motion of your front end’s side-to-side movement. It even uses the same technology that’s inside suspension, namely oil passing through orifices. That restriction to flow creates the damping that controls how fast the front end turns. Learn more about what a steering stabilizer is and what they do in this MC Garage.
What Are The Different Kinds Of Steering Stabilizers?
There are a bunch of different kinds of steering dampers out there, from radial ones that mount to the top triple clamp to linear units that mount to the bottom of the triple clamp. There are even electronically controlled stabilizers that vary the damping based on the bike’s speed. Regardless of the style or location of the damper, they all do the same thing, and that’s slow down your steering.
What Does A Motorcycle Steering Damper Do?
Most riders like a bike with light, easy steering, so why would you want to slow down how fast your front end turns? Two words: Tank slapper. If you hit a bump that deflects your front tire, or if you’re accelerating hard enough to float the front wheel and you set the tire down at an angle, the front end’s trail can whip the wheel back toward the center. If you’re going fast enough and the wheel is turned far enough, the inertia of the front end’s self-centering movement can throw the wheel past center in the opposite direction and set off a chain reaction that can end very, very, badly.
Not sure what I mean? Search for “tank slapper” videos and prepare to wince. Tank slappers are some of the most violent, terrifying crashes in motorcycling.
Steering dampers help prevent and interrupt high-speed front-end oscillations, but for the most part they don’t inhibit slow-speed steering. That’s because of the circuitry in the damper, which, like a damper-rod fork, is rate sensitive. So if you’re turning the bars slowly there’s not much resistance, but crank on the bar quickly and the resistance ramps up.
What Kind Of Motorcycles Use Steering Dampers?
You mostly see dampers on 600 and 1000cc sportbikes because they’re the most susceptible to wobbles and tank slappers. Lots of power, short wheelbases, and steep steering geometry all improve handling at the sake of stability and make a tank slapper more likely. Lots of off-road bikes use dampers too since they’re ripping across uneven terrain that can deflect the front wheel. You don’t see them on cruisers because those bikes’ weight, fork angle, and other factors make them unnecessary.
Are Steering Dampers Worth It?
So stability and safety is a concern when it comes to steering dampers, but so is a personal preference. Some riders just like dampers because they can make a bike’s steering smoother and more controlled, or they see it as cheap insurance to keep their bike from freaking out at speed. Style is a big factor, too, and plenty of people just like the look of a damper and will install one even if their bike or riding habits don’t warrant it.
Here’s a tip though. If you bike has started handling oddly or gotten unstable, don’t bandaid the issue by installing a steering damper. A motorcycling traveling in a straight line is inherently stable, so if your bike isn’t, you should be looking at your tires, steering head bearings, and wheel alignment.
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I installed one on my unicycle and love it
Yep mine needed one too, I love it!?
i think the rider needed one and not the unicycle itself
QUESTION- I live in Canada and I ride in a temp range of 5 degree Celsius all the way up to 35+ (41 and 95F ish) and I have a HyperPro RCS on an 07’ YZFR6 Raven. I find that the temperature GREATLY effects my dampener. Is this normal? Has anyone else experienced this?
(I do prefer a stiffer feel, personal preference)
Thanks.
@@tylerhenrich oil in the strut will change viscosity at different temperatures. So yes temperature is causing the change in feel.
Lmao
3 years later and this series is STILL the best information on UA-cam. Thanks y'all!
I watched it and never installed one. I regret as I am nursing wounds now.
I just found this channel but this explanation is supreme indeed. Very clear and informative no BS
you talkin about 3 years later, im here 7years later dude
Thanks I am new to motorcycle and this information is great
aluisious was going to like but see its on 46 ;)
Im new also can i just bail out amd roll it out on the road ?
Look up the guy who slid under a semi truck on a freeway. You can see how quick and violent front wheel wobble can be. Lower power bikes have less of a problem with the front wheel coming off the ground.
My Dampener has literally saved my life on multiple occasions. It's 100% needed if you're an aggressive rider. ZX10r #bikelife
*damper
If your talking about the generation 1 zx10r then I know your pain mate 😂😂😂 maddest bike I ever ridden for slaps
Same dude this invention is revolutionary and life saving
Please Advice ..
Do I Need Steering DAMPER,, I have KTM DUKE390 it hits top of 175 KmPH,, i know its so much ?? As the Bike Weight is very less (160Kg) as compared to its power ,, and Aerodynamics are also not so good ,, so WIND BLAST make the Bike wobbles on high Speed .. Thanks in ADVANCE
@The Underground Man so is it better to accelerate more in this situation? Cheers
Talk about the advantages and disadvantages of frame sliders
AXMT advantage: less fairy damage
Disadvantage: cosmetically less appealing
Saved them a vid
Here's my opinion:
Pros - They can save your fairings and other parts in slides or tip-overs/drops.
Cons - They can also destroy your bike since they stick out further and are more likely to "catch" on dirt or other uneven surfaces, especially at higher speeds. Since frame sliders protrude the motorcycle, they also give the ground more leverage to "pull" on your engine/frame bolts in a crash, which can literally mean cracked engines or bent/cracked frames. Another negative is that some require you to cut holes through your fairings.
Other info....I like frame sliders that aren't directly mounted onto the bolts which they attach to. While they do give more leverage, they secondary mount is usually designed to break off in a major impact, which limits damage and means easier replacement.
Well, I have around 20 crashes on my bike w/o frame sliders and that fact has saved it several time.
When the fairings are in contact with the ground, the friction is much greater and the bike stops faster, hopefully before it encounters an obstacle or something that would send it spinning. Of course, if your frame isn´t strong, or if you have things sticking out (indicators and exhaust, most often), than sliders might save a lot of money, in the end, you are the one that has to decide.
That makes no sense, your comment is rhetorical. If HE HADNT hit the guard rail the frame sliders would have prevented a lot of damaged that would have happened, and it doesn't matter how nice your set of sliders are, slider are sliders, they're meant to be ground down,. Sliders are 10x cheaper than fairings, so that was a stupid statement. You cant say oh he would have better off buying this, because this happened. Well, we cant predict the future, so you have to take safeguards, and steps to prevent awful mishaps. Frame sliders 9/10 times will save your bike rather than damage it.
I hear frame sliders save your bikes fairing from tip overs or low speed crashes. But during high speed crashes they can hook into the ground and pull on your frame, damaging the bikes frame, bolts and stuff. They can also hook into the ground and send your bike flipping over violently into a roll in the case of a high speed crash.
Without frame sliders in a high speed crash, your bike would just slide on it's side till it came to a stop or hit something.
So would you rather completely destroy your bike with frame sliders on during a high speed crash? Or would you prefer to just get the mirrors, indicators, brake/clutch levers and fairing destroyed without the use of frame sliders in a high speed crash?
Hi Ari, Fellow Cape codder here ;) I have a question I'd like to see you make a video on and that's different headlights. HID's vs LED vs stock bulbs, etc. Advantages, disadvantages of each, etc. Such as lower voltage draw from LED. Thanks a bunch for all your free videos that are priceless to us fellow riders! :)
*sees footage* well if this is a streering damper ad I'm sold.
I ride a 2017 Zx10r and for the first time in my life last weekend I had tank slap at 110 mph for about 5 seconds... it was the worst 5 seconds of my life... I did NOT wreck due to the Kawasaki steering dampener! Kawasaki literally saved my life... thank you so much
Glad you made it James!
Piggyback ECU (PCV) vs Flashed ECU. I think that would make a good episode of MC Garage.
PCV is much better because it covers more variables than a flash and new maps can be installed whenever you want. PCV is superior to a MCU flash all day long.
@@PNW_Sportbike_Life no lol
@@PNW_Sportbike_Life no lol
Yes more power before more safety, please sign organ donor card. 99% of street riders cannot fully use 600 bikes stock power you need morecslills not more hp. Smh at another squid
@@RT22-pb2pp shouldn't people happy they get more organ donor?
Installed one on my lawnmower , best mod ever
A video on the effects of front and rear suspension adjustments would be very interesting!
Great video guys - clearly explained, nice one - keep up the good work. All the best - TMF
And then we have the MURRAY WALKER WOBBLE AND WEAVE upload from a place and time far far away still to be found in the deep dark uncool corners of You Tube .
I would advised anyone that if you don’t have one stock on your bike, you should definitely put one, and believe me or not, the video here showing a race bike having a tank slapper, this was a little tiny one, I’ve experienced way more drastic one, on any sportbike it’s not you should, it’s you have to get one, and even on the big cruiser it’s often a necessity, one of my friend had a Harley FLH X , the kinda bike where you sit as comfortable as a Elran living-room sofas, and guess what she was constantly complaining her bike was always wobbly ( witch is how start a tank slapper, in Quebec, Canada, we have ( I think ) the worst potholes in the worlds, and a very long time ago, I hit one with a Ninja 750, and it tank slapp so hard that I couldn’t even hold on the handlebars, everything was like I was a moving earthquake, until I took a chance and when the try to grabbed it back but when they fly so fast in front of your eyes you can even just see them, anyway I was lucky but when I finally stop the bike, I was stunned, my gas tank was dented on both sides, the handlebars was flying so hard and fast that they hit both sides on the gas tank, since then and that was in 1989/1990 , I had a steering damper on every of my bike, just think if it save you just one time, ( and that’s gonna be way more than that ) how much this crash would costs you to repaired it, and that’s without talking of you hitting the grounds, because often on a real tank slapper the rider even gets ejected, it really doesn’t take a genius to understand, you have to have one, stock from company are not the best, but at least it’s one, but to get a real one you shouldn’t hesitate. 👍👍👍
After learning how to use my damper, if you plan on doing any aggressive riding or highway riding, it's a must
MT 09 guys watching: I am not negotiating
agreed
Would it be pointless if I put one on my mt07? Are they for more powerful bikes? Thanks
@@socialising6037 honestly its good peace of mind on any bike they are all in danger of tank slapper
@@socialising6037 do you just ride it on the street? then no. If on the track and/or the twisties a lot, then go for it.
Yes the wobble comes at like 90mph every single time lol ima get one at some point
i am new to motorcycles i recently got a dirt bike and i was curious what each part does and how it works. the videos are very helpful
Honestly, I never bothered with them...thinking I didn't really ride in a way to need one. Got a new bike that had one. Had a bit of road debris BREAK both wheels at highway speed. That steering damper really helped me to maintain control as I stumbled to a stop.
Thank you for information, christopher waltz.
😂😂😂😂😂
He looks more like schumacher tbh,,,,
hmmm, i wasnt expecting you here!
Many Goldwings and other bikes had bad slow or high speed wobble and guys would put braces on them to fix the problem. Many times the real problem was saggy fork springs. This caused the fork geometry to go steep and resulted in the shopping cart syndrome..Just replace the springs and fork oil for best performance and if your too cheap a spacer on top of the spring will lift the bike back up.
I just got a CBR600RR, I've never encountered a steering damper before, since this is my first ever street legal motorcycle, but I have to say that I really like it so far. On the highway, the bike is very stable, and the damper gives me as much control as I really need, frankly.
Wow, this has made me realise i might actually need a steering dampner... Never really tought about it before. Light to medium front end wobble happens quite often for me (bumpy roads+high lean angles will do that apperently :-P) guess I'll add it too my wishlist! Thanks MC garage!
Pål Haughem "damper"
As Ari amd aluisious mentioned don't use it as a bandaid. Set the sag on your bike correctly. The damper should work well with it together.
aluisious
You have it backwards.
Less sag - > higher front end - > greater rake angle - > longer trail.
I had only one wobble in my life. That was ten years ago on a 150 cc Yamaha FZ. It happened at a speed of around 40, when I hit the edge of a road from outside at a low angle.
So these are not limited just to high speeds or high performance bikes.
I couldn't control it, because I tried to increase my grip on the handle, and let go of the throttle.
Never faced it again in the last decade despite riding fast on all kinds of roads, including under construction ones, for more than 200,000 km.
talk about hard break ins vs soft break ins!
Shannon Kholm also talk about why Honda engines do not have a break in period (as our local dealership claimed)
Pod Rider break in periods where for older bikes and then continued to "cover their ass" with modern.
Hard break in is for precision assembly like race engines where the components are tested and often run in on the bench. Honda and other japanese do run their engines in on the bench, but that does not mean you can thrash it straight out of the box, the engine still needs to loosen up. That must be done gradually.
If the manufacturer says run it in at limited revs for the first so-many miles then do that or you *will* wreck the engine. It's not only the piston but all the bearings in the motor and gearbox.
Worst case scenario, broken piston, least case egg-shaped bearings.
Too many riders have no mechanical knowledge whatsoever. Same goes for dealers, their job is to sell bikes, they're not engineers - Do not believe dealerships.
Before riding your brand new bike, read the _ing manual.
+Jeff Slade You can run the bike hard (and you should) straight from zero miles provided you warm the engine first. A hard break in with frequent oil changes for a few hundred miles is the best way to get optimal performance out of your engine. Just watch JakeTheGardenSnake's video on the subject.
+Jeff Slade I do not think you are unreasonable, however given the precision these engines are made with these days, wouldn't that make the "let it loosen in" argument moot? It would also make sense for the manufacturers to tell the consumer to run the engine in easy because of insurance reasons, so they don't wreck the bike straight away.
A steering damper is not something you need until you need it. And in that moment, you REALLY need it.
"Steering dampers are not necessary on cruisers" meanwhile the harley death wobble
Exactlt what I thought.
Lol Vulcan, shadow, theyre cruisers and dont have the Harley wobble, haha. its a Harley thing from poor manufacturing.
the harley wobble is from a shitty frame and outdated engineering
sad but true
i dont wave to naked squids...i just glare at you
Learned that looseness of the steering head bearings lets that wobble creep in.
Just wanted to say, i watch your short informative videos all the time! learned so much! Thanks, and keep em coming man!
Straight to the point, great video, 👍
I think it would be interesting to cover high flow air filters as well as after markets exhaust and how they may require a power commander to work properly.
Video on the most required necessary tools for home bike maintenance!!!
I've always wondered what that thing was in videos! Thanks for this very helpful explanation. My cruiser only did the slappy thing once, with an unintended jump off some bad pavement at a railroad crossing. Unintended because I wanted to jump off the crossing some 30 yards later. Oops.
Bobcat Arts lol
best series on the tube . learn so much everytime .
Yes, the green ninja in the background... can I have it? :) I don't see anyone else asking, so figured I would give it a try :)
Thanks for the vid. After riding for 2 decades, I've NEVER used a damper, and really never saw the need. Matter of fact, the one time I borrowed a bike with one, I hated it (we were trail riding in a forest). This explains the problems I was having with it.
No one gives a fck about you
I put a GPR on my ZX14R It works very well keeps the beast straight as an arrow😜
I ACTUALLY LIKE THIS CHANNEL A LOT!!!
Hey! Could you guys do a video on spark plugs? Like what are the types and how they affect your bike?
Had the tank slapper of my life yesterday. Bout shit myself and now I'm watching these
How did you recover? did you lay off the gas? I read you really have to accelerate and hold on loosely on the bars? at what speed did it happen?
@@mattpaladin1168 happened to me while accelerating. I was full throttle and hit a bump in the road around 80mph. Got a mean tank slapper, I don't quite remember how I got out of it, but I believe I just let off the gas.
Just change my tires recently, and the bike feels like steering much lighter than before, i got a gsxr600 w/ new diablo rosso3
That's probably tire pressure over anything else.
Nice!! Check for 60s or 70s series it affects the way bike turns in!! I'm pretty sure your bike comes with 120/70 on 17s
found this video on right time. yesterday i was thinking what era these things and why they are for. now informed. thanks
Had a tank slapper at 165 at texas world speedway with a stock steering dampener on a k6gsxr1000, it was so violent that it forced the brake caliper pistons out leaving me with no breaks into turn one. Almost pooped my pants... Luckily I didnt reck and installed an ohlin adjustable asap
Vids or GTFO, Check my vid on my page of my slapper haha
The stock gsxr dampers are a joke.
"Brown trousers" ;)
I had the exact same thing happen to me. And the 90 degree corner I was going into is called Crash Corner.
Took 3 pumps before the brakes engaged. Only made the corner because I backed off after the tank slap but still braked on my usual marker.
Took out your rear brake too?
Can still remember my old Kawa 500 triple (the original one) going around a tight sweeping bend two up at 80 mph giving a nice high speed wobble... soon learned how much wobble was getting too much and back off a touch, but got used to it. It had a steering damper too. It was a c**t of a bike to ride really.
Dope video as always! My only disappointment with the zx6r is how Kawasaki removed it entirely but kept the MSRP the same. Because of it, the 16'/17' ZX10R felt like the "better value" from factory since spec wise you get more for your money. Seem as the 10 is the better buy cause with the zx6, you get less bike and less features for 'more' money, comparatively speaking to the older zx6 which included the damper from factory.
1.00 I recognise that track! Sepang International Circuit Malaysia, my homeland! 🇲🇾 Has been two years though since the last time I set foot on the track because of the pandemic...😌
But my love for riding never fades!🔥
Cam Chain and cam chain tensioner
Boy, that R6 is gorgeous 😍
It's a kawasaki ninja dx10
Funnily enough I've been considering this the past month on my MT09(FZ09) but unsure if I can really justify it... whenever I rip the throttle I get an unstable front mainly because the front lifts up slightly , so it's nothing serious but I'd like to get rid of that movement as the other day I hit a pothole at an angle while doing some moderate speed... I can only say it wasn't pleasant
Recently got a Z900 and was surprised it didn't come with one. My 09 600rr had one stock and after hitting a 2x4 in the highway at 75mph it made me realize that steering dampers indeed work. Guess I'll be ordering one for my new bike.
Most bikes don't come with steering dampers. Especially naked bikes. Which is wild as naked bikes feel more susceptible to it. I too came from riding a cbr600rr. Different in stability on high speeds is night and day with a damper.
Talk about Pros/Cons of Air-Cooled, and the Pros/Cons of Liquid-Cooled
Cody Teichert well you don't have to refill an aircooled engine xD also you wouldn't need a radiator (meaning one less component to worry about getting damaged and needing repair/replacement)
my guess is liquid is a better though, better heat capacity than air also a radiator has a very large surface area for heat to radiate off of
oh no no no, I know XD Im just saying he should explain it to those who don't, because hes a really good explainer XD XD thanks though
Cody Teichert "He gives really good explanations" go back to fucking English class you dumb fuck.
Chocolate Tampon, why you mad tho?
strictlyformyninja It's because this generation is the definition of stupidity, and it will be the last because of it. I don't condone stupidity.
I absolutely love these videos. Layman's terms explanations that a newb like myself can understand on relevant topics, that don't focus on selling products you don't need. MC Garage, please keep this up.
Meanwhile back in my country, every single 150cc rider install em even on a moped 🗿🗿
So we should put one on a child’s tricycle.
First one I ever seen was on my 1973 H2 750. And it needed it daily.
Hey Ari can you shed some light on cornering? Maybe make a three episode video for starters, intermediate and advanced riders :) thanks a lot fam
Yeah, Sportbikes having "chicken stripes" on the tires is usually deserving a badge of shame. But, is every millimeter of rubber supposed to come in contact with the road? How far can I really lean a Sportbike over on public streets!? And how does rider position affect cornering, and when does it become useful to lean off the bike in a corner?
In slow out fast a good starting point working up to balls to wall ride the wheels off it ! can take many years
Worn braking discs create wobble and numb hands too. In case you watched video and ruled out bearings, headstem, wheels and other factors bike isn't stable straight.
I like your video.
hey whats up ! wonderin if you could explain whats going on during the break in period on new bikes? Just bought a new 2015 kawasaki concours left over. real good price! Had to keep it under 4000 rpms for 500 miles, and 6000 rpms till 1000 miles. think i know whats going on but would be cool to here it from you. always look forward to new vids from mc garage! Cheers !!
Setting the piston rings.
Ari Henning thanks! Can't wait !!
Ari Henning I hope hard and soft break ins are in that future vid :)
Good call, I"m curious on that one as well.
See my post above. If you thrash it you will wreck the engine. Do follow the instructions in the owners manual to the letter.
Any engine takes a while to loosen up, it must be done gradually. Once it is run in then you can do the hard break in.
Common failure thrashing a new engine is broken piston rings. You can easily drive bearings oval too.
You might easily do 1000 miles in a weekend ;) First service is generally chuck the running-in oil away - take a look at it, it will be filthy with debris from the engine.
Explained very well,i have a Ducati Pentigale V-4 with a sacs steering dampaner, it's works amazingly well and interviens pefectly when the front end gets twitchy. It's definitely confidence inspiring.
Thank you Captain America
As a new rider I would like to thank you for the tip! I tend to get very aggressive and will be having one installed asap. Again thank you and keep up the good work you all are doing. Is very informative. 🤙💯
how to readjust a carb and now its done correctly?
just change the main jet. brown. black spark plug= to much fuel, white spark plug= to much air, brownspark plug = perfect air and fuel mixture
theswedishnoob wont work anymore. Old gas had lead in it to color the sparkplug. You need very very very lean mif ti have white sparkplug
@aluisious but you would still have to manually adjust it if you have carbs right? does the kit give instructions on that?
First thing is you learn how they work.
+I make and fix stuff damn I wish I was as smart as you :o.... i am asking to be thought how they work you dumbass
Love MC garage..!!
Always so informative…!!
Thanks for all the tips…!!!
🏍️💨💨💨
An important note is that a damper does not prevent a tank slapper at all, it just makes it more difficult to happen. The cause of death wobble is gripping the bars too tightly and you need to address this prior to adding hardware to your bike.
Had a decent tank-slapper recently on my Honda Super-4 1300 at 80mph: normally a very stable bike. . A magpie flew into my shoulder and visor and started a violent oscillation. Thought I was going to drop it and it was like being slugged with a baseball , bruise stuck around for a week or so.. Fitting them on all my bikes now - just finishing an installation on my T140 Bonneville today. Nice explanation , great video!👍🏻
Is there a way to save it when the wobble starts?
yes can someone explain how to react to a situation like that ?
When in doubt, throttle out.
Possibly, but I suspect that it depends a bit on the cause. In any case, don't panic as either you can save it, in which case panicking doesn't help. Or, you're going down, in which case panicking won't help.
The only time I've ever had a wobble was when I was on the freeway going over a series of tar snakes. In that case, I just eased off on the throttle a little bit and the wobble went away.
I didn't know these things were so feared, it was kind like, gee my handlebars are wobbling back and forth violently, let's ease up a bit on the throttle and get that front end back on the ground properly.
smoothly let off the gas and engine brake...its generally speed related so if you just slow down it usually goes away...then you fix the problem like to soft of springs or old fork oil and just a cheap fork like KYB will bounce around like a pogo stick...dump the junk and get showa marzocchi or ohlins if you want to have a great handling bike...steering dampers are a copout and dont make the bike handle great the just make it so it wont kill you
Depends on how fast you're going, how low/high of gear you're in , what caused you to lose balance (i.e. uneven surface), what's around you, and what type of bike you're on.
If you're in low gear accelerating, getting on the throttle will most likely stop it. If at high speed and high gear, ease off and the bike will correct itself as the front wheel gets lighter.
Gezz u literally have every answer when I don't know something 😂 thank u
So what are the tank slappin probabilities of a 27$ dampener vs a 500$ one?
Said it before and I will say it again. Great info...
are you related to Jeff Cavalier?
Random Guy they dont even look alike or even have the same last name...
Moto-lean-X here!
Ram Iyer lol true
J3xY they do look a like dickhead
Ram Iyer yeah fucktard
Wow,EXCELLENT Video Ari,as I've oftened wondered the TRUE PURPOSE of these things OFF OF the Racetrack of course (where it's OBVIOUS,going through Quick-turns,at steep lean-angles,where it'd be mandatory!!!) So Thanks for your wonderful explanation!!!
Can I use steering damper for my katana 750cc 1994?
Man keep it stock 💪💪💪
Yes you must install one in case your flying on your extremely super fast Katana men those Katanas are too damn fast and get another damper for rear wheel 🎡
Regarding topic suggestions: I would like an eposide about engine mapping. I have a fair bit of knowledge about it but just have a nice run through to refer to when I simply dont have the energy or time to explain it to someone. Why it is there, what heppens when it is off, when to get it adjusted and what they do. Perhaps a few shots of a dyno run, things that are clear when you see it in pictures but when one describe it in words takes forever. Thanks for some of the best content out there!
Definitely need one on my 990 Superduke but can't figure the difference between the ölhins radial type or linear like the LSL's....🙄🤔🤔
You should be ok,just as long as you don't go over 400kph on your Superbike. I dream about going 400kph on my 100cc yamaha.
Thank you for the info on steering dampers...
I wobled on aprilia sx125 supermoto at 140km/h
SloGaming ... Yamaha R5 used doing it .. scared the crappies out of me the first time..
Was it going down a cliff?
Please slow down 140kph is faster than a Ferrari careful
So true! After somehow surviving my first tank slapper I went home and ordered a Ohlins kit for my Duc and never rode a bike without one again. Seriously.
2:57 "and other factors" it's okay, you can say lack of power
lmao
steering dampers don't eliminate the death wobble entirely they just reduce it
i just wanna thank you guys for the great work you do! it's very helpful and i appreciate it a lot.
why are there bumpers on bikes when most people just replace it with a eliminator kit?
Laws in many countries require the body to extend beyond the back wheel.
Easy answer(s)
Wet riding
Legal issues (as said above, indicators, deflectors, plate light, but also the positionning of the plate as well as the angle, ...)
Bumpers???
He means mudguards.
In the UK we're supposed to have a centre-line marker tail lamp. And number plate illumination. There are height regulations. If the plate/lamp is mounted at the side then at least 50% of the light must be visible from the rear and side. Having the plate sticking out at the side is a bloody nuisance.
It rains here. A wet arse is unpleasant but having the front wheel chuck it into your face is worse.
why?
Thank you for this clear explanation Man! I have had three slappers on three rides on three different biikes (ducati scram nightshift, honda cb 650 four cylinder, and a ducati cafe racer). Ducatis definitely need these anti tank slapper dampers. And i definitely do as i ride 180 kmh on an island full of bumps
I have a friend who put a steering "Dampener" on his bike. I told him "I would get one but my steering is already pretty wet."
Weak
Damper but whatever...
Every BMW motorcycle I have 1967, 1976 and 2003, plus the 2014 I had, and my BSA Royal Star all come with steering dampers. All motorcycles have a resonant frequency that will induce a tank slapper. If BMW thought they could cut some costs by not installing dampers, I am certain that they would do just that.
No..you do not steering dampers if you ride normally. Most motorcycle engineers design bike for inherent stability under normal loads
....now, if you ride like a "Richard"
No, you are wrong. I own a honda innova and it happended to me quite often. The worst one of them was when i was traveling at about 20 km/h i ended up falling and scraping my right buttcheek and leg quite damn bad.
if u ride like me u wouldnt need steering dampers bc ur used to controlling the wobble by adding throttle bc i ride dirt bikes loll
@@gaminggami4138 then you don't know how to ride
I’m just here to add that I had a tank slapper at only 40mph and I was very lucky to regain control because I could no longer hold on to the clip-ons. On a CBR600RR doing an inadvertent low power wheelie in first gear and the road changed from flat to a crowned section. The strong engine braking saves my ass. Needed? Only because I did something stupid but who hasn’t on a bike? Next day ordered a Scott’s and it was money well spent
Suffice it to say I guess I dont ride normal!! Lol but better to have it than find out too late Ahh shit I should have installed that shit last week moment!!😄
These videos are always informative, Thank you.
Dude, you got veins sticking out all over your biceps and forearms...... stop doing curls and push-ups before taping a segment for the show!
lol
Tony Kart Racer some people are just naturally vascular
Try not to be too jealous
Thats,actually a sign of high blood pressure...get it checked before you strokeout dude.
or he could just be Vascular...
But what's his workout routine more important ly
why do manufacturers put holes on the side fairings of sport motorcycles. Wouldn't it be more aerodynamic to have it all flush and flat
The air that passes through the radiator needs to go somewhere. The holes in the fairings actually improve aerodynamics by giving that air an escape route
sandroportillo - air cooling and controled holes reduce drag
As well as "weight"!!! ;)
sandroportillo aerodynamics is a long degree to study man. its not simple
Ducati didn't get that memo I guess.
I have a 150cc DOCH 4V, for me it's already powerful. And I think I might need one.
Damn you defenetly need one just in case you go over 200KPH on your scooter and please be careful
wow ty,learned new thing today,guess i will think to buy one
Thanks for the video. I was wondering what it was designed to do. Now I know. People see mine on my bike and I was really unable to explain what it was designed to do. Thanks.
Excellent explanation. Thanks.
I would like a video about the different offroad tires in comparisom, like you did with the street tires just with the offroad ones instead. I enjoy your videos and keep on going!
Have a xj6, got a tank slapper death wobble thingy yesterday, def gonna look for one
Changed my back tyre and immediately felt a huge difference was getting slight wobbles from corner exits previously
Straight from the gym!
Excellent information.
I've been waiting for this one even though I know everything there is to know about dampers (humble brag), I still love these videos!
This guy sells me his zx6r with a steering damper it has 21k miles makes me feel unsure i don’t if he’s lying
Good stuff, I've never put much thought into steering dampers before.
To your request for topics to discuss. Current techniques and equipment for on board video with crisp clear rider audio.
And thanks for a great wealth of MC videos.
Chains rubber bands n shafts.. i know that things bt i think u will make a nice video as u always do
Great video as always. The MC Garage library is getting quite extensive.
you are the professor of bikes. totally love youre content. leqrn so much from you. love from India bro 🙏🤘
Awesome explanation...👌👌👌🙌🙌🙌