I liked your video. In the conclusion you said “this kit is not really for the AVATA type person” I see the install as one and done kit. When it’s done you have all the Avata characteristics with extra performance and stability. Not to mention quieter. As long as the battery life is not completely destroyed, it seems like a great upgrade.
It's a great upgrade, it's just the vast majority of people I meet who own or want an Avata are not the people who would either want or possess the skill set to perform this upgrade. I get emails or messages on Instagram from people who want this upgrade but can't/won't do it themselves asking if I can do it for them. I wish I had more time to help them out.
@@MurdersFPV found it. Do you get the "Motor Overloaded" warning? Is this confusion from the new motors? Or did I screw up in my install? As of now I am treating it like a shift light/redline indicator and let off. But the motors come back cold to the touch. So I am thinking the ESC is not really in trouble, but confused about the draw of power from them. Its performing out of its programed range. Do we know of any long term ESC damage from these motors?
I still can’t decide if I go this way to start my upgrade from the original air units or just keep building. The Pavo pico looks interesting but I did by a moongoat frame with 03 plates!
Great video man. I’ve only flown a buddy’s Avata but I believe this is the upgrade that it needed. It appears that it was really woken up with this kit. Dope flying at always.
It's definitely a completely different drone. It's quite the investment though which is why you really got to want what DJI offers to make this a thing.
Great kit to Sup it to the Max! If you really want to keep the Avata as a dual duty Cine/Fun Flyer, perhaps just the motor upgrade is the way to go. Great review and awesome flying, as always! 👌
The c157 have the wrong bolt pattern. It's the weird 3 bolts thing that the stock Avata uses and like nothing else. The c157-2 has the standard 4 bolt pattern that the upgrade kit uses.
really nice shots broo, and thanks for ur sharing, helped me a lot. I just made this upgrade to 3.5''!! Im really impressed, works so much better!! but, could you tell me hows ur rates for cinematic shots?
This made me want to buy an Avata, and I already have one! Great video. I like the USB-C location change, it really irritates me trying to access it on the original. The Avata is awesome though, thanks for introducing me to it!
Nice review mate, I'm still on the fence about it. Do like the look of it coping with its own weight, and being able to work better in the wind. I cant remember who's channel it was on but seen a guy remove the grommets fairly easily with some fishing line a while back.
@@MurdersFPV I see.. lol lol. I don't like having to mess with the battery but I guess you have to fit bigger frame . I'll take my time.. also thank you did the fix of the rubber grommets.. I'm sure I'll rip mine off as well . Lol lol Mikey
hey man, do you know which adapter you used to put on those thick M4 radiomaster style stick ends on the DJI controller? Would be nice to put some thicker sticks than the stock ones.
Great honest review of the upgrade kit, murders. I’m taking a hard pass on it and accepting the Avata for what it is. The risk/reward ratio just isn’t there for me considering the extra money I’d be dumping into what’s already a $650 quad. The motors for my 5” frame will be here tomorrow. That’s the way to get the performance I’m looking for imo. This was the vid I needed to see and have eagerly been waiting for. That was an epic rip in the Spain bando. Thanks for the great content, brother 🔥🔥🔥
No, I honestly don't blame you. I don't know if I would have done it on my own. I'm grateful Axis sent it to me because after having done it and actually using it, I definitely prefer this version of it. The investment is pretty substantial though and that's kinda the main downside for most.
Hello, great video and really helpful! Very random question but do you know if any platforms where I could contact someone to do the axis build for me. I want to upgrade my avata so badly but have no soldering skills whatsoever. Thank you!
it seems like a lot of work that also voids the warranty. what is the benefit of the upgrade kit over buying or building another, better cinewhoop or other style drone?
If you're referring to the DJI limited warranty that is voided by just about everything then yes you would void your warranty. I mean simply taking off with additional weight such as a GoPro does that. Their limited warranty doesn't cover any form of crashes or damages due to pilot error as well as flying in areas where WiFi is present or "bad weather". I would hope someone has spent time flying their Avata as stock to determine if there were any manufacturing defects that would be covered by the warranty prior to the upgrade. Now if you are referring to DJI Care Refresh then simply performing the upgrade does not void your coverage. It's a paid service that covers the drone in the event that it was run over by a freight train. You simply return your drone as wholely as possible and pay your replacement fee and they send you a new drone. I know this because I have done it myself even after performing the previous Axisflying motor upgrade and had no issues. I have had several viewers who reached out to me with the same outcomes. The benefits over other drones you could buy or build is features. Normal, Sport, Manual mode for varying degrees of pilot skills. The most dependable GPS and RTH capabilities I've seen. Active braking ("oh shit" button). It's quite durable even after the upgrade. Intelligent batteries that are safer than any normal LiPo. Ease of use, there's no "configuration" or setup and lastly there are people who simply enjoy being in the DJI ecosystem. As someone who builds and flies their own drones A LOT I still find value in the Avata. I like the Avata for its simplicity in regards to travel. I like letting friends and family fly it. I like knowing I can beat the shit out of it and it keeps going. It's more durable than my GepRc Cinelog35 and now with this upgrade it honestly flies and handles almost as well as the Cinelog35. I hope that answers your question.
I used to offer my services for that kind of thing but lately I've been super busy with work and I just don't have time especially with as much travel as I've had lately. I recommend checking out the DJI/Avata Facebook groups and ask there. I'm sure someone will offer.
It's not something I advertised but I did about 6-8 motor upgrades for subscribers. It's just really dependent on if I had time. You may be able to in the DJI FPV/Avata Facebook group.
The sticks came off the AG01 gimbals for the Radiomaster TX16s Max. I made them work using the bottom half of a stick upgrade I got for the Controller 2 off Amazon.
@@MurdersFPV I figured they would be some mish mash of pieces. I’ve got an m2 screw through a 3D print going right now. Thanks for the reply ! Hard to believe the bando flying was an avata 😂
Is it just one motor or multiple? Have you attempted to arm the quad and see if any motors are spinning? Let's say it's just one motor not moving, I would move a known good motor to the spot where the bad motor is. The Avata has an AIO FC/ESC on the same board and it is likely the motors are fine but the AIO is bad. Cloud City Drones out of Rhode Island has everything you'd need to build an Avata from scratch. cloudcitydrones.com/collections/parts/products/dji-avata-esc-board-module
Its says motors starting, then it stops and says motor startup error, i installed the motors the recommended way by splicing the wires so i couldnt have fried the esc im at a loss now
@@clwood562 just curious who recommended to you to splice motor wires? I'm a firm believer the best way to perform the upgrade is to install the motors as intended directly to the AIO. I would verify your splices very carefully to ensure you have enough continuity for each of the motor wires. If you are positive that you do, then it's possible you still somehow managed to the AIO. You want to troubleshoot the motors first though. Reinstall the original motors and test. If motors still won't start then it's your AIO.
@@MurdersFPV AXIS recommends that you cut the wires to ensure that you dont fry the ESC. Im guessing that you are 100% correct i need to just go directly to the esc
@@clwood562 splicing can be done and I see why they recommend to avoid damage but having the appropriate skill and soldering station with the correct amount of heat makes soldering to the AIO directly very easy and it's just clean and tidy. Give it a shot. Look for any balls of solder or clear defects with the AIO while you're at it and like I mentioned, you can always use the old motors for troubleshooting.
Great video! So I’m looking into this upgrade. Definitely for the Full-size GoPro 11 capability. But Im worried about “too much” power. In particular for indoor flying. I use my Avata more as a cinewhoop. Would you still recommend this upgrade in this case?
Hey Nicholas! Should i choose axis flying kit frame or just upgrade motors (kinda like how original frame looks like)? Really wanna now your opinion. 🙏
So both Sports and Normal mode the speed is governed by GPS. So it will only let you go so fast. You'll need to fly in manual mode to take advantage of the additional speed.
Hello, I want to buy the kit for my AVATA, but I’m from Brazil, I have a little difficulty translating the lines, but I read better with the writing. How was the USB input and the SD input? Was it worth the modification? Can you answer me here?
I believe the upgrade was worth it. That's because my style of flying is more aggressive. You have to install the SD card before hand and leave it in there. It is impossible to remove after the upgrade unless you take the ducts off. You get a USB cable that extends the USB-C jack out to the base of the quad. It's much easier to access and that is how you get your video files off the SD card. I recommend pre-installing a 128g or 256g SD card.
@@MurdersFPV Thanks for the reply. How did the frame look in normal mode with the camera at 0° angle? Does it appear or just to be in a position below 0°?
@@mathFPV you see the frame almost 100% of the time in Normal mode flight. It's there even in Sport mode though it does go out of the screen a bit when going as fast as you can in a straight line.
I really liked the video, you are an excellent pilot! , new subscriber here, I just ordered the kit, a small question, did you use dji stabilizers? Or in jyroflow?, thanks 😎
I recommend checking the DJI/Avata Facebook groups and asking around. I'm sure someone is doing it. I used to offer the motor upgrade service on a case by case but lately I've just been crazy busy with normal day to day stuff. 🫤
I made the modifications to my avata, but when trying to fly it doesn't take off, I think it's because I don't know how to put the ellipses correctly, any suggestions?
Occasionally when I'm doing a power loop or something. I've never had it wig out on me and the motors are not too hot when I land. I'm not worried about it, personally.
@@orozcocris93 hmmm something maybe wrong. I push mine pretty hard and it shouldn't do that. Perhaps there was some damage to the AIO during installation.
@@MurdersFPV i dont think there would be. i glued the wires that connect the battery with uv electronic adhesive paste and i cut the motor wires like axis flying specified. figured i better be safe than sorry. tested the connections before installing the battery to make sure nothing was shorting with the volt meter. i honestly couldnt pinpoint why it is doing it
Looking for a fpv drone that is not so loud and can carry a GoPro. Any ideas? Curious why you would use a go pro? I thought the avata had a good camera system.
All the footage in this video is right off the Avata's camera system. I personally think it looks great too but for "professional grade" work it isn't as easy to manipulate the footage and it does lack dynamic range compared to a GoPro. In terms of loudness, the only way to combat that with an FPV drone is to use different props. I've been experimenting with some different props on the Avata and I'll likely make a video on it soon. Anything that is powerful enough to carry a GoPro is going to be loud, unfortunately. 🫤
@@MurdersFPV appreciate the response. Definitely a tough decision with so many options out there. What would you recommend if not an avata that would still easily hook up to the DJI googles and controller and would hold a full sized GoPro? Or would it be better just to strap a GoPro to the avata? Seen that a bit on UA-cam. I’ve heard you really can’t do dives with the avata. Is that true? I am not looking to do crazy stunts. Just want to be able to make some really cool cimamatic videos wit the fpv look.
@@adventuresofjandk pretty much any drone with a DJI Air Unit would be easy to setup with the controller and goggles. There are several bind and fly drones out there that have DJI FPV systems built in. The Avata can dive better with this upgrade but not while carrying a GoPro. I'm not really a fan of a full size GoPro on any cinewhoop style drone. I use the GoPro Hero 10 Bones on the GepRc Cinelog35 which is a pretty great drone. If I were going to carry a full size GoPro I'd use it on a 5" or higher.
Would you say that just the engine upgrade is worth it to a casual flyer? I've been watching videos for a few weeks and im looking to bumb up the agility a tad and not totally kill the battery performance.
I think so. Just the motor upgrade alone makes this drone fly much better in my opinion and it's worth the reduction in flight time. My answer is to just buy more batteries. I know that is an expensive way to think about it but that's just the facts of the hobby.
@@MurdersFPV I have 10 batteries, so basically no issue there. Lol I'll have to look into it, wonder if I can pay someone to install the motors, I have ZERO experience in that area.
Well done. Thank you for this. If after the upgrade, the Avata isn’t as good as desired, is it possible to remove and use on a build the 03 AU and camera? Was there an appreciable difference in volume or pitch?
I don't know about being able to use the O3 in a different build. The camera is wider so finding a frame to fit it would be weird. There is the same connector there as the O3 unit that plugs into the AIO. I'd be curious to see if it's possible or even how the RID functions. If it's part of the Avata O3 system then it may not function without a GPS unit and your cellphone.
Man, your flying is insane! So I have a question. I'm a total newb at FPV. I've only flown the DJI M4P but I'm ready to go to the next level. I was planning on purchasing the Avata 2. Should I go that route or buy a more capable FPV? I like how the A2 allows the total beginner to fly FPV then gradually go manual. Thoughts?
you want rubber for both the nut and the bolt. the rubbers are meant to dampen any shock going to the camera in the event of a crash and believe me, the cheapest you can find that camera for is about 350 usd. you will want to put rubber on the top too if you are going with the bolt idea
I have question in the Avata to Axisflying3.5. Is your internal storage working for you when you connect using usb-c port? is it showing in you computer? Mine is not showing in my computer the internal storage
In manual mode I was seeing them go out of view at about 15-20 degrees. I normally fly at 30° and they are completely gone. BUT you can always rock the GoPro for slow stuff which is what most people will likely do anyway.
They are sticks that came from the Radio Master AG01 gimbal upgrade and I used a DJI Remote Control 2 stick upgrade that I found on Amazon. It has a removable top that allows you to use any M4 sticks you want. www.amazon.com/dp/B08ZCKC2R7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Hey looking for advice here. I’m new to drones and I’m torn between building my own Quadmula 3” frame or starting on the DJI Avata and eventually getting this kit. I do have an electronic background so hopefully I will not struggle that much with either approach. Btw I love your videos man!
That's a tough one. Honestly the Quadmula Siren F3 is my favorite drone. I beat the crap out of it and it is still going strong. I think the Avata is a great beginner drone and if your goal is to have something that you can rip a little bit as well as get some GoPro shots the Avata with the upgrade is pretty great.
@@MurdersFPV same situation I didnt experienced any bad behavior or any hot motor.. thanks for the feedback i thought im the only one experienced this warning
Great video and flying as always! I managed to get my gummys in and out a few times. But I have now broken one after chipping the lens and having to fit the 03 camera module (dji won't sell me a camera)! Love the idea you come up with for the Gummy mounting tho! BTW those ducts are strong!
@MurdersFPV same ha. There are some disadvantages to this kit with regards to the camera and ducts in view. But it makes it a very good cinematic whoop whilst keeping the dji features no other whoop has. Not for everyone... but I love it!
With FPV the concept is performance not efficiency. If you want 15+ minutes of flight you can fly slow and steady but if you want to feel like a jet pilot you're going to burn through a battery in 5-7 minutes.
I did get it to pop up a couple of times but that was during some pretty big powerloops or coming out of steep dives. Basically extended full throttle stuff.
@@MurdersFPV but my avatar 3.5 when playing manual freestyle for 6 minutes then I landed, the battery was so hot that an error battery warning appeared. is there something wrong with my avata?..
@@agamlistiyanto4515 could be something wrong with the battery leads. They include those larger gauge wires for the battery lead in the kit. You need those thicker wires to handle the current draw.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - you are the best FPV pilot out there! Don’t care what anyone else thinks! You’re my FPV idol! 💪🏼🔥absolutely stunning shots! PS. Quick question, was this recorder with a GoPro?
This was all recorded on the O3. I did do some GoPro testing with the Hero 8 as weight. It handled it very well. I'm planning on doing a mod to use the GoPro Hero 10 Bones.
@@MurdersFPV appreciate your quick response brother! I’m actually shocked you got such a great footage out of it. I’m wondering what am I doing wrong, I guess I just need to learn a bit more about ISO and exposure settings + nd filters! 😂 Looking forward to the Hero 10 footage! 🔥
No. Stick a large SD in the unit before you put the prop guards on. There is a USB-C to USB-C that installs on the underside of the drone. That's how you gain access to removing your video files or updating your O3 AU
One of the best videos I’ve seen with the avata in manual mode at the end
That flight is sick. Beautiful!. I know to fly like this takes some serious seat time, which I don't have sadly, but you still continue to inspire me.
Thank you, brother I really appreciate that.
@@MurdersFPVhi have you ever updated the firmware after this mod not sure if it would cause a problem or not
@@daveks21 I have. It's been fine.
@@MurdersFPV thank you buddy
That is some incredible flying. Much respect.
13:45 my mind is blown that this is avata footage...
I was considering the avata 2, but this seems like the better option for way less money haha
Awesome flying! Your flights should be used to market the kit. Hard to believe that came out of an Avata. Looks like a must have upgrade tbh.
I liked your video. In the conclusion you said “this kit is not really for the AVATA type person” I see the install as one and done kit. When it’s done you have all the Avata characteristics with extra performance and stability. Not to mention quieter. As long as the battery life is not completely destroyed, it seems like a great upgrade.
It's a great upgrade, it's just the vast majority of people I meet who own or want an Avata are not the people who would either want or possess the skill set to perform this upgrade. I get emails or messages on Instagram from people who want this upgrade but can't/won't do it themselves asking if I can do it for them. I wish I had more time to help them out.
@@MurdersFPV exactly. But once done, they would love it. Maybe Dji should release it as the Avata CinePro.
@@MurdersFPV found it. Do you get the "Motor Overloaded" warning? Is this confusion from the new motors? Or did I screw up in my install? As of now I am treating it like a shift light/redline indicator and let off. But the motors come back cold to the touch. So I am thinking the ESC is not really in trouble, but confused about the draw of power from them. Its performing out of its programed range. Do we know of any long term ESC damage from these motors?
Wow man that's fantastic! I've been waiting 3 years for something DJI that can resemble an FPV drone. It looks like we are almost there.
this thing rips first fly today after following your build and using your tune its amazing buddy
Not sure what happened this was supposed to be on your siren f3 build video 🤣 just about to order my f5
Whoooaaaahhh that was a nucking futs ride mate!
Thank you! 😍
I still can’t decide if I go this way to start my upgrade from the original air units or just keep building. The Pavo pico looks interesting but I did by a moongoat frame with 03 plates!
Great video man. I’ve only flown a buddy’s Avata but I believe this is the upgrade that it needed. It appears that it was really woken up with this kit. Dope flying at always.
It's definitely a completely different drone. It's quite the investment though which is why you really got to want what DJI offers to make this a thing.
Awesome 💀
Great kit to Sup it to the Max! If you really want to keep the Avata as a dual duty Cine/Fun Flyer, perhaps just the motor upgrade is the way to go. Great review and awesome flying, as always! 👌
Great video and amazing flying at the end!
Very nice upgrade kit. Amazing review mate as always. Keep well.
Ur amazing pilot murderfpv . Wow! Great music choice as well . Always u rock brother! 🤟🤟🤟
I accidently purchased the c157 motors and the 3.5" frame do I have to use the C157-2 or will the C157 work fine?
The c157 have the wrong bolt pattern. It's the weird 3 bolts thing that the stock Avata uses and like nothing else. The c157-2 has the standard 4 bolt pattern that the upgrade kit uses.
@MurdersFPV that sucks, thank you for letting me know
@MurdersFPV just ordered the 157-2 if you know of anyone who needs the C157 motors let me know
really nice shots broo, and thanks for ur sharing, helped me a lot. I just made this upgrade to 3.5''!! Im really impressed, works so much better!! but, could you tell me hows ur rates for cinematic shots?
Hey, do you see the 3,5 frame in the avata camera, when you fly??
@@chr1s_69 yeah, thats why u should shoot with high angle, or in 4x3
@@flyah thank you.
What means high angle?
@@chr1s_69 if u set ur camera angle to 10º to 15º u will not see the frame anymore
@@flyah thank you, sounds good.
And when i fly 20+ degree, i fly always in 20-32
Amazing video 👏🏼 Great overview and review, and an excellent creative freestyle at the end. Thank you
Thats crazy awesome! The last cinematic clip was sick 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 thats what i want
Great video 👍
In comparison of DJI Avata 1 with Axisflying 3.5 vs The New DJI Avata 2 stock, which one would say it flies better in Acro?
Thanks
This made me want to buy an Avata, and I already have one! Great video. I like the USB-C location change, it really irritates me trying to access it on the original. The Avata is awesome though, thanks for introducing me to it!
Just started this hobby and love thanks for the great information and amazing flying!!🔥
I wrapped the wire around the gamble mount several times. This prevents the force cutting into the mount like a single loop does.
That's great advice
Nice review mate, I'm still on the fence about it. Do like the look of it coping with its own weight, and being able to work better in the wind. I cant remember who's channel it was on but seen a guy remove the grommets fairly easily with some fishing line a while back.
Weeeeeee mine comes wed.. yahooooooooooo
Mikey
It's a ton of fun.
@@MurdersFPV I see.. lol lol. I don't like having to mess with the battery but I guess you have to fit bigger frame . I'll take my time.. also thank you did the fix of the rubber grommets.. I'm sure I'll rip mine off as well . Lol lol
Mikey
Your a dope pilot man, just gotta say that vid was impressive :)
Stunning flying! Thank you. I'm subbing. Greetings from Montreal, Canada.
hey Murders, nice vid. i did mount the new motors.. now i have no cam.. and gimbal didnt start up when i start the drone.. do you know the problem?
I would definitely reseat the gimbal and camera connectors. It's easy to misalign those.
Great video as always my dude
hey man, do you know which adapter you used to put on those thick M4 radiomaster style stick ends on the DJI controller? Would be nice to put some thicker sticks than the stock ones.
Anbee Upgrade CNC Aluminum... www.amazon.com/dp/B08ZCKC2R7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
I enjoyed watching this great video. Thank you 👍
Do you provide the service of installation for people?
You're doing freestyle on it so well 🚀🚀
Crazy man! Really cool 👍👍👍
Спасибо за контент 🙏
Пилотаж и подача материала - на высоте !
Awesome footage, What kind of sticks are you using on your controller?
thank you -- great information and incredible flying. Subbed!
What would you say the top speed is now with the upgrade. Cheers man
Great honest review of the upgrade kit, murders. I’m taking a hard pass on it and accepting the Avata for what it is. The risk/reward ratio just isn’t there for me considering the extra money I’d be dumping into what’s already a $650 quad. The motors for my 5” frame will be here tomorrow. That’s the way to get the performance I’m looking for imo. This was the vid I needed to see and have eagerly been waiting for. That was an epic rip in the Spain bando. Thanks for the great content, brother 🔥🔥🔥
No, I honestly don't blame you. I don't know if I would have done it on my own. I'm grateful Axis sent it to me because after having done it and actually using it, I definitely prefer this version of it. The investment is pretty substantial though and that's kinda the main downside for most.
I like the joystick you have on the controller😍 Do you have a link or what i need?
hi thank for the video. Did you notice lost of GPS when you begin to fly ?
Nope. GPS works perfectly fine. If you're having issues, try reseating your cable.
Excellent video brother. I wish the battery last longer. I’m used to mini 4 pro flight times 😅
Dude i need help after instalation mew motors i got erorr esc
I would unsolder. Clean pads. Look for stray solder balls. Resolder. Make sure there are no solder bridges.
Great video! Was it also quieter after the upgrade?
Where can I find those sticks bro??
Have experienced red warning motor overload while trying power loops?
Hello, great video and really helpful! Very random question but do you know if any platforms where I could contact someone to do the axis build for me. I want to upgrade my avata so badly but have no soldering skills whatsoever. Thank you!
Your best bet is to join some DJI Facebook groups and ask around
I would like to send you a custom avata upper frame, is there a way we can do that?
Very interested video and upgrade 👍🏻
it seems like a lot of work that also voids the warranty. what is the benefit of the upgrade kit over buying or building another, better cinewhoop or other style drone?
If you're referring to the DJI limited warranty that is voided by just about everything then yes you would void your warranty. I mean simply taking off with additional weight such as a GoPro does that. Their limited warranty doesn't cover any form of crashes or damages due to pilot error as well as flying in areas where WiFi is present or "bad weather". I would hope someone has spent time flying their Avata as stock to determine if there were any manufacturing defects that would be covered by the warranty prior to the upgrade.
Now if you are referring to DJI Care Refresh then simply performing the upgrade does not void your coverage. It's a paid service that covers the drone in the event that it was run over by a freight train. You simply return your drone as wholely as possible and pay your replacement fee and they send you a new drone.
I know this because I have done it myself even after performing the previous Axisflying motor upgrade and had no issues. I have had several viewers who reached out to me with the same outcomes.
The benefits over other drones you could buy or build is features. Normal, Sport, Manual mode for varying degrees of pilot skills. The most dependable GPS and RTH capabilities I've seen. Active braking ("oh shit" button). It's quite durable even after the upgrade. Intelligent batteries that are safer than any normal LiPo. Ease of use, there's no "configuration" or setup and lastly there are people who simply enjoy being in the DJI ecosystem.
As someone who builds and flies their own drones A LOT I still find value in the Avata. I like the Avata for its simplicity in regards to travel. I like letting friends and family fly it. I like knowing I can beat the shit out of it and it keeps going. It's more durable than my GepRc Cinelog35 and now with this upgrade it honestly flies and handles almost as well as the Cinelog35.
I hope that answers your question.
Is there a service that can do the upgrade for a fee ? I would rather pay someone to do it instead of messing it up.
I used to offer my services for that kind of thing but lately I've been super busy with work and I just don't have time especially with as much travel as I've had lately. I recommend checking out the DJI/Avata Facebook groups and ask there. I'm sure someone will offer.
Hello, do you see the frame in the avata camera when you fly?
Not in Manual mode, which is the only mode I fly in.
@@MurdersFPV thanks a lot.
I have a Avata with "only" c157 Motorupgrade, sometimes with prop-wash.
Is the 3,5" kit much more better?
@@chr1s_69 it's a completely different drone. It's the way the Avata should have been. It's my favorite cinewhoop now.
@@MurdersFPV thank you Sir, merry christmas 🎄
Is there anybody that actually will do the upgrade for you? Seems like there were someone that was doing it on the motor upgrade
It's not something I advertised but I did about 6-8 motor upgrades for subscribers. It's just really dependent on if I had time. You may be able to in the DJI FPV/Avata Facebook group.
What sticks are those for the controller? I have the iFlight Commando 8 remote and it uses the same dumb way of threading sticks in.
The sticks came off the AG01 gimbals for the Radiomaster TX16s Max. I made them work using the bottom half of a stick upgrade I got for the Controller 2 off Amazon.
@@MurdersFPV I figured they would be some mish mash of pieces. I’ve got an m2 screw through a 3D print going right now.
Thanks for the reply !
Hard to believe the bando flying was an avata 😂
I've done both of my avata with upgrade had no problems never done soldering before anything like that
Well, that's excellent news! Glad you knocked it out.
So im done with the upgrade, motor falure? Any recomendations?
Is it just one motor or multiple? Have you attempted to arm the quad and see if any motors are spinning? Let's say it's just one motor not moving, I would move a known good motor to the spot where the bad motor is. The Avata has an AIO FC/ESC on the same board and it is likely the motors are fine but the AIO is bad.
Cloud City Drones out of Rhode Island has everything you'd need to build an Avata from scratch.
cloudcitydrones.com/collections/parts/products/dji-avata-esc-board-module
Its says motors starting, then it stops and says motor startup error, i installed the motors the recommended way by splicing the wires so i couldnt have fried the esc im at a loss now
@@clwood562 just curious who recommended to you to splice motor wires? I'm a firm believer the best way to perform the upgrade is to install the motors as intended directly to the AIO. I would verify your splices very carefully to ensure you have enough continuity for each of the motor wires. If you are positive that you do, then it's possible you still somehow managed to the AIO. You want to troubleshoot the motors first though. Reinstall the original motors and test. If motors still won't start then it's your AIO.
@@MurdersFPV AXIS recommends that you cut the wires to ensure that you dont fry the ESC. Im guessing that you are 100% correct i need to just go directly to the esc
@@clwood562 splicing can be done and I see why they recommend to avoid damage but having the appropriate skill and soldering station with the correct amount of heat makes soldering to the AIO directly very easy and it's just clean and tidy. Give it a shot. Look for any balls of solder or clear defects with the AIO while you're at it and like I mentioned, you can always use the old motors for troubleshooting.
Great video! So I’m looking into this upgrade. Definitely for the Full-size GoPro 11 capability. But Im worried about “too much” power. In particular for indoor flying. I use my Avata more as a cinewhoop. Would you still recommend this upgrade in this case?
Awesomeee !! Can you tell me your PID ?
This looks like it could be an ideal option instead of buying a Cinebot 30... Thoughts? I love my Avata so I need to be sure.
It's honestly my favorite whoop. The only major downside is remote ID. If that's something you can handle, I think it's the best option.
@@MurdersFPV I'm in the UK so I don't need to worry about connecting my phone....
.... Yet!
;)
Thumbs up for the soundtrack!
Fantastic video and insight, new subscriber here and just have to say loved the walkthrough and advice. Thank you!
Thank you and you're very welcome!
Looking forward to getting this upgrade in a year or so and whipping my drone into the side of a tree!
Thanks for this amazing video!
And what is your opinion about complete 3.5 upgrade vs just axis flying motors upgrade ?
I absolutely love the way the Avata flies and handles with the full upgrade. For me, this is what the Avata should have been.
@@MurdersFPV thank you very much 😊
Hey Nicholas! Should i choose axis flying kit frame or just upgrade motors (kinda like how original frame looks like)? Really wanna now your opinion. 🙏
@mebeldude just the motor upgrade alone is a nice upgrade, and it's much easier to do.
Axisflying DJI AVATA 3.5" in sport mode (not manual) gives more speed?
So both Sports and Normal mode the speed is governed by GPS. So it will only let you go so fast. You'll need to fly in manual mode to take advantage of the additional speed.
Hello, I want to buy the kit for my AVATA, but I’m from Brazil, I have a little difficulty translating the lines, but I read better with the writing. How was the USB input and the SD input? Was it worth the modification? Can you answer me here?
I believe the upgrade was worth it. That's because my style of flying is more aggressive.
You have to install the SD card before hand and leave it in there. It is impossible to remove after the upgrade unless you take the ducts off. You get a USB cable that extends the USB-C jack out to the base of the quad. It's much easier to access and that is how you get your video files off the SD card. I recommend pre-installing a 128g or 256g SD card.
@@MurdersFPV Thanks for the reply. How did the frame look in normal mode with the camera at 0° angle? Does it appear or just to be in a position below 0°?
@@mathFPV you see the frame almost 100% of the time in Normal mode flight. It's there even in Sport mode though it does go out of the screen a bit when going as fast as you can in a straight line.
I really liked the video, you are an excellent pilot! , new subscriber here, I just ordered the kit, a small question, did you use dji stabilizers? Or in jyroflow?, thanks 😎
do you think i could send dji my avata and the 3.5 kit and they’d install it for me? curious to know if that’s possible.
No😂
Looking for tech shop who will mod the Avata. Is there anyone doing this ?
I recommend checking the DJI/Avata Facebook groups and asking around. I'm sure someone is doing it. I used to offer the motor upgrade service on a case by case but lately I've just been crazy busy with normal day to day stuff. 🫤
Does this fix the tumble issue with the avata 100%? Best way to tell is to do a juicy flick from my experience which I didn’t see in this video
It does. 100%
I made the modifications to my avata, but when trying to fly it doesn't take off, I think it's because I don't know how to put the ellipses correctly, any suggestions?
Check all of your solder joints.
@@MurdersFPV all it's okay
i got mine done and seem to get a lot of motor overload messages. do you get that on yours?
Occasionally when I'm doing a power loop or something. I've never had it wig out on me and the motors are not too hot when I land. I'm not worried about it, personally.
@@MurdersFPV maybe I need to push mine less. Mine fell out of the sky. Just stopped the props without warning
@@orozcocris93 hmmm something maybe wrong. I push mine pretty hard and it shouldn't do that. Perhaps there was some damage to the AIO during installation.
@@MurdersFPV i dont think there would be. i glued the wires that connect the battery with uv electronic adhesive paste and i cut the motor wires like axis flying specified. figured i better be safe than sorry. tested the connections before installing the battery to make sure nothing was shorting with the volt meter. i honestly couldnt pinpoint why it is doing it
@@orozcocris93 glued? You mean soldered?
Looking for a fpv drone that is not so loud and can carry a GoPro. Any ideas? Curious why you would use a go pro? I thought the avata had a good camera system.
All the footage in this video is right off the Avata's camera system. I personally think it looks great too but for "professional grade" work it isn't as easy to manipulate the footage and it does lack dynamic range compared to a GoPro. In terms of loudness, the only way to combat that with an FPV drone is to use different props. I've been experimenting with some different props on the Avata and I'll likely make a video on it soon. Anything that is powerful enough to carry a GoPro is going to be loud, unfortunately. 🫤
@@MurdersFPV appreciate the response. Definitely a tough decision with so many options out there. What would you recommend if not an avata that would still easily hook up to the DJI googles and controller and would hold a full sized GoPro? Or would it be better just to strap a GoPro to the avata? Seen that a bit on UA-cam. I’ve heard you really can’t do dives with the avata. Is that true? I am not looking to do crazy stunts. Just want to be able to make some really cool cimamatic videos wit the fpv look.
@@adventuresofjandk pretty much any drone with a DJI Air Unit would be easy to setup with the controller and goggles. There are several bind and fly drones out there that have DJI FPV systems built in. The Avata can dive better with this upgrade but not while carrying a GoPro. I'm not really a fan of a full size GoPro on any cinewhoop style drone. I use the GoPro Hero 10 Bones on the GepRc Cinelog35 which is a pretty great drone. If I were going to carry a full size GoPro I'd use it on a 5" or higher.
Would you say that just the engine upgrade is worth it to a casual flyer? I've been watching videos for a few weeks and im looking to bumb up the agility a tad and not totally kill the battery performance.
I think so. Just the motor upgrade alone makes this drone fly much better in my opinion and it's worth the reduction in flight time. My answer is to just buy more batteries. I know that is an expensive way to think about it but that's just the facts of the hobby.
@@MurdersFPV I have 10 batteries, so basically no issue there. Lol I'll have to look into it, wonder if I can pay someone to install the motors, I have ZERO experience in that area.
eis off and wide field of view hows the prop guard? does is show in the camera?
Not at 30 degrees in Manual mode.
Hi, where did you get those stick? looks soo nice.( I'm sorry if you already mentioned in your old videos.)
what was the flight time like after doing this upgrade?
I am actually getting cruising flights of about 8-10 minutes now which is a big difference from the previous Axisflying motor upgrade.
Well done. Thank you for this.
If after the upgrade, the Avata isn’t as good as desired, is it possible to remove and use on a build the 03 AU and camera?
Was there an appreciable difference in volume or pitch?
I don't know about being able to use the O3 in a different build. The camera is wider so finding a frame to fit it would be weird. There is the same connector there as the O3 unit that plugs into the AIO. I'd be curious to see if it's possible or even how the RID functions. If it's part of the Avata O3 system then it may not function without a GPS unit and your cellphone.
Man, your flying is insane! So I have a question. I'm a total newb at FPV. I've only flown the DJI M4P but I'm ready to go to the next level. I was planning on purchasing the Avata 2. Should I go that route or buy a more capable FPV? I like how the A2 allows the total beginner to fly FPV then gradually go manual. Thoughts?
Do you have any soldering skills? If so, I'd recommend building your own.
@@MurdersFPV I do. I used to race 1/10 scale off road buggies.
how about a battery that last longer than 18 min. all this technology and they can't make a bigger mah battery?
you want rubber for both the nut and the bolt. the rubbers are meant to dampen any shock going to the camera in the event of a crash and believe me, the cheapest you can find that camera for is about 350 usd. you will want to put rubber on the top too if you are going with the bolt idea
I suppose, but so far it's been working pretty well.
I have question in the Avata to Axisflying3.5. Is your internal storage working for you when you connect using usb-c port? is it showing in you computer? Mine is not showing in my computer the internal storage
Mine is working as intended. I would double check to see if you've soldered the connection correctly.
@@MurdersFPV thank you
On the fence about this upgrade. What's the minimum camera angle before the guards come into view? Awsome flying.
In manual mode I was seeing them go out of view at about 15-20 degrees. I normally fly at 30° and they are completely gone. BUT you can always rock the GoPro for slow stuff which is what most people will likely do anyway.
@@MurdersFPV OK good info, thanks. I have a GoPro 9, interested how it would handle the extra weight.
@@MurdersFPV I fly at 25° nornally.
@@craigdavo oh you'll be fine
Might have to do this to my avata 👀 good video!
Thanks for sharing! Can I send it to them to get it done?
Your best bet is to go to the DJI FPV/Avata Facebook groups and ask if anyone is willing to do it for you.
@@MurdersFPV Got you! Thanks man🙌🏻
Love the skills 👍👍
Hey nice video. I like the gimbal stick ends for DJI remote where did u get that?
They are sticks that came from the Radio Master AG01 gimbal upgrade and I used a DJI Remote Control 2 stick upgrade that I found on Amazon. It has a removable top that allows you to use any M4 sticks you want.
www.amazon.com/dp/B08ZCKC2R7?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Do you have a link for the replacement propeller guard?
Not yet. They aren't available yet on their own. Axis said they'd let me know when they are.
Wet the grommets and frame with liquid soap for lubrication, works a treat.
Great advice, thank you!
Hey looking for advice here. I’m new to drones and I’m torn between building my own Quadmula 3” frame or starting on the DJI Avata and eventually getting this kit. I do have an electronic background so hopefully I will not struggle that much with either approach. Btw I love your videos man!
That's a tough one. Honestly the Quadmula Siren F3 is my favorite drone. I beat the crap out of it and it is still going strong. I think the Avata is a great beginner drone and if your goal is to have something that you can rip a little bit as well as get some GoPro shots the Avata with the upgrade is pretty great.
@@MurdersFPV thanks man! I think I’ll start on the Quadmula Siren F3 then.
Hi bro.. i just completed my avata convertion did you experienced random "motor overload" warning on punchout and sharp manuever?
Eh, sometimes but it never seems to have any serious affect or loss of control. Just a brief warning.
@@MurdersFPV same situation I didnt experienced any bad behavior or any hot motor.. thanks for the feedback i thought im the only one experienced this warning
Great video and flying as always! I managed to get my gummys in and out a few times. But I have now broken one after chipping the lens and having to fit the 03 camera module (dji won't sell me a camera)!
Love the idea you come up with for the Gummy mounting tho! BTW those ducts are strong!
Yeah the ducts turned out to be a lot stronger than I thought they would be.
@MurdersFPV same ha. There are some disadvantages to this kit with regards to the camera and ducts in view. But it makes it a very good cinematic whoop whilst keeping the dji features no other whoop has. Not for everyone... but I love it!
They don't have battery that can fly at least 15 min? That seemed very short
With FPV the concept is performance not efficiency. If you want 15+ minutes of flight you can fly slow and steady but if you want to feel like a jet pilot you're going to burn through a battery in 5-7 minutes.
Jesus that gap at 16:58
Does the motor overload warning appear?
I did get it to pop up a couple of times but that was during some pretty big powerloops or coming out of steep dives. Basically extended full throttle stuff.
@@MurdersFPV but is it safe for the esc if the motor is often overloaded?
@@agamlistiyanto4515 I haven't seen any adverse effects and I've been really trying to push it.
@@MurdersFPV but my avatar 3.5 when playing manual freestyle for 6 minutes then I landed, the battery was so hot that an error battery warning appeared. is there something wrong with my avata?..
@@agamlistiyanto4515 could be something wrong with the battery leads. They include those larger gauge wires for the battery lead in the kit. You need those thicker wires to handle the current draw.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again - you are the best FPV pilot out there! Don’t care what anyone else thinks! You’re my FPV idol! 💪🏼🔥absolutely stunning shots!
PS. Quick question, was this recorder with a GoPro?
This was all recorded on the O3. I did do some GoPro testing with the Hero 8 as weight. It handled it very well. I'm planning on doing a mod to use the GoPro Hero 10 Bones.
@@MurdersFPV appreciate your quick response brother! I’m actually shocked you got such a great footage out of it. I’m wondering what am I doing wrong, I guess I just need to learn a bit more about ISO and exposure settings + nd filters! 😂
Looking forward to the Hero 10 footage! 🔥
@@BrakeRLUA-cam I just use Auto settings. 😂
Very cool upgrade! You know what I'm after. How did it feel with the Hero on it's back?
It carries it very easily. You may not want to fling it around all crazy but it definitely cruises around smoothly.
where is the micro sd card slot?
It’s in the drone you can’t access it anymore but you can transfer files with the usbc of the drone so just leave the sd card in it
Wow, man. really cool flying. how do you learn to fly like that?
Lots and lots of practice. And crashing, lots of crashing.
can you still access the sdcard slot after the mod?
No. Stick a large SD in the unit before you put the prop guards on. There is a USB-C to USB-C that installs on the underside of the drone. That's how you gain access to removing your video files or updating your O3 AU