So ridiculous. Maori were never one people. But were made up of tribes who spent much of the time battling over food and resources, and killing each other. Then engaging in a forever spiral of utu. I have Maori ancestry and my ancestors were nearly all slaughtered and enslaved by Te Rauparaha at Onawe Pa in 1832. Lucky my great x4 Grandfather escaped. The good ol' days eh?!!! No thanks!
Seems we are whanau then, ae te rauparaha caused alot of mamae. It's partially why I refused to perform ka mate at school (apparently it was the only haka known in the early 2000s) and would only do our own haka from my rohe. My ancestors on the east coast in wairoa weren't that fond of bloodshed and would often shame their enemies by hanging them upside down in trees until the surrendered. Back in the day surrendering brought more shame on the wider hapu than actual death. We didn't like the never endeding cycle of utu, even my ancestor te rauhina made the distinction that she was not a woman that ate flesh to the point her husband's other wife was the man eating wife. You'll find it's not an all encompassing thing and the first tuturu Maori that inhabited these lands before the more recent migrations were very kind people and were more similar to moriori in terms of their nature and stature. Namely bc there were two brothers in which moriori descend from, one went to rekohu the other one went up in te Urewera.
Thank you so much for your account! you have got it! proud of the good bits shameful stuff not so much same for us all ! my viking bits both brave & AWEFUL BUT today is now we are all here now the world is ours we can make it better ...or worse thank you
@@Pastaaa204 Yeah not my favourite haka either haha! Some have theories that the weather shifted in the Island and times became much tougher, with more droughts and storms so that's when the competition for resources really started. Sparking migrations. Plus the fight for those resources became a matter of survival leading to a more warrior culture, and a more warlike people than before. If that's the case then it could explain why the people of the first migrations were much more peaceful in nature. Like the Moriori etc who got largely wiped out by some of Ngati toa's allies from Taranaki.
Well when no actual Maori existed their claim was legitimate. But now anyone with a Maori ancestor is Maori. That must make me Aboriginal from 5 generation or more since a 100% Aboriginal ancestor. I must be owed reparations. Even though Im as pale as pale comes. There is no non european maori so they have no claim of anythings anymore.
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893really aren't you tired? Isn't it time to stand in your own power your own evolution? Surely RIP means to move forward and allow our predecessors to rest while we take care of ourselves. Isn't it all just so tiring 😴
@@jimijamesjowittonly 5 generations??? My family goes back 47 generations. That's a mighty big difference to be calling yourself indigenous... do you have Polynesian heritage or culture????
@@logicalanswer3529we want a Maori parliament that has no te pati Maori influence. Alot of their policies were rinse and repeat of labour and green and don't focus on issues that are at the forefront of Maori minds. TPM aside from hana imo, are just antagonisers - I laugh at Debbie most times but hardly ever take her seriously. I feel as though they don't have to be so dismissive of others interpretation and refusing to enlighten people in their reasoning for their vernacular , they're doing a Winston essentially - giving half truths that if you're unaware of the history will trigger a negative response. One thing I do have to disagree with is that they're choosing to hyperfixate on the Maori document te tiriti simply bc they're TPM - by international standards the legally binding document is the one in the indigenous language as opposed to colonial forces. Just think, if the original govt ensured both were a true translation of one another without any intentional deception then te tiriti wouldn't hold more weight internationally than the English variant The treaty of waitangi🤷🏻♀️ just food for thought anyway
Those are New Zealanders. Anyone identifying by race are definitely not New Zealanders as we dont have racists on our team. We actually have laws which haven't bee enforced recently preventing racism and hate speech.
The style of leadership is more leaning towards kingitanga and mana motuhake theres friction and plenty of fracture there but they need to be more realistc and focus on getting a bill in place to much haerere ki tawahi and more hui less doey.
@@Duckz558 What a naive comment. I am also of Maori descent and and happen to know my genealogy/whakapapa very well. I couldn't care less if TMP consider me a 'blood traitor'. Their rhetoric is totally toxic and shameful.
@@Duckz558 I know my Maori heritage and I am first a Christian, then a Kiwi., then have an interest in Scots, Irish and Maori heritage, like some parts , dislike others, never been a bludger, or lived with a victim mentality. I worked until 69 years old. Never had a hand out
@@jonathanwright5550 Can you enlarge on that please Jonathan. We know she gave $2.6 million to the Mongrel Mob for 'drug rehabilitation'. How else did her Labour Party cozy up to gangs.
Maybe non maori who identify as Kiwi should pause for a moment ant ask themselves why the chose a maori word to identify themselves. There is mo reason why you can't however; if no part of your physical DNA is of maori descent and you think we should all be accepted as New Zealanders... then doesn't it make logical sense to refer to yourselves as New Zealanders?
Maybe someone like Shane and Karen Chhour needs to take the maori party to the human rights commission and race relations tribunal and have them on hate speech and racism. That's also it, how ist it pakeha can be taken to the race relations on racism yet pakeha aren't allowed to or get frowned upon if we take any other race to the race relations?! Isn't that contradictory of what it's there for?
That tutae pati is run by JT the Waipareira Trust ceo skimming money from the trust accounts intrest free to fund his muppet show with Rawiri and Debbie at the wheel steering towards the ditch.
Well said I voted left until Jacinda started goose stepping around important questions. There goal is to divide I love our country and people Wouldn't mind closing our borders for a year our infrastructure can't cope
Im no fan of Jones but he hit the nail on the head....TPM were emboldened because Adern was so clearly out of her depth and in fear of her Maori caucus and TPM...this is all a result of weak leadership on her behalf. Winston Peter, Jones, Seymour etc all show far more leadership and leading for all NZers than she or TPM have or will do.
Tea party Maori Party should be ashamed of their actions, racist and hateful rhetoric towards the rest of the country is shameful and unacceptable, the treaty is now being used against the majority of people in New Zealand
Dear Matthew, Great great comment..👍👏👍 I DEFINITELY feel the same as I have had a gut full of them. Thank you. Hope you and your family are well. With love ❤and blessings 🙏
@@mattheweden-pc5pk Yeah but Luxon is to weak & will not help Act bring his Principles bill to reality as with the ongoing co governance Luxon will allow it to continue.
I voted for Te Pati not knowing this party would be using my vote for their private agenda How many of you who are in this party are full blooded Maori and turning my vote into something I would never have supported due to the fact I am from mixed blood my children, my mokos and my great mokos how dare you belittle me and my whanau both Maori and Pakeha also Tongan Niuen Chinese I now realise what a huge mistake I have I do not support racism in any way shape or form both black brown and white. Start doing the job we put there for to make sure our people get the support they need such as health homes jobs education and their wellbeing not this crap you are feeding our youngs with All you have done is made my role as a great Nana Nana mother aunty mother inlaw sister sister inlaw a whole lot harder as if I haven't enough to deal because of this rhetoric both black and white.... Teaching all of my whanau to be proud of who and what they are. Evon Moir nee Edmonds nee Leaf nee Tito
Thank you Shane Jones and Micheal. NZ is heading in a new direction thanks to your voices, one that creates free open and important dialogue. You are the new Media.
In 1945, a "full and final" settlement of all maori claims was made by the then government, paid by the taxpayer to maori Iwi which was so enormous, it was paid over 30 years in instalments. in the 1950s there were 295,000 part maori defined as being half or more than half maori. Since then, they are way more inbred with other races. As iwi realised the money was going to stop being paid in 1974, they both re-defined what is a maori in 1974 and started civil unrest which lead to the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 which has led to the New Zealand taxpayer paying a further $36 BILLION to maori Iwi, up to 2018 which equates to $122,000 per maori as defined in the 50s. The question we should be asking is where is all the money and why is it only the so called "maori elite" that benefit from these huge taxpayer funded payouts ? These crooks need to keep the hate propaganda running to keep the money running for themselves. What we should be saying is, how about you give all the money back to the government and they share it amongst ALL the poor which you keep claiming are mostly maori, would that not be the best way to solve maori poverty instead of blaming the very people who are paying the tax ?
@trevordance3453 peanuts 🥜 compared to what maori endured doesn’t really change a thing it seems tell me theses so call reparations what were they paid out for? criminal acts? racial abuse? what’s the facts to it all if you think you know
@@Duckz558 Well Duckz, you can look them all up. Now imagine this. There is a group of people in a room who have to decide what to pay. Many of the people in the room will be the recipients of the money or their lawyers, no actual evidence is required to be presented other than "statements" (maori call this oral history) no cross-examination is done. After every one who is interested has said their bit, negotiations begin on how much taxpayers money will be handed over. The taxpayer's interests are NOT represented and no defence against the claim is made. Then they write up the "claim" as a piece of legislation and it is passed. Anyone who does not vote "for" the legislation is then called a racist and their tenure in parliament is therefore limited. Compare this farcical "tribunal" with a real court where actual evidence is required and can be questioned for both authenticity and relevance and an independent assessment is made of right and wrong by a jury. If that was not an open check-book ready for abuse, I do not know what is... but it gets worse. The claims now routinely finish up with "this does not preclude further claims being made in future". So what are the claims actually based on ? Here is a typical scenario. Hone Heke went to Australia and purchased muskets with money given to him by the British. After signing the Treaty and agreeing to peace, he then went on a rampage around NZ killing other iwi and settlers alike - this was treason. He was warned that he would lose his lands if he did not stop, he did not stop and lost his lands - he was not executed as was routine for British at the time. Fast forward to 1975 and now the taxpayer today are "compensating" people who may have had ancestors of this murderous thug or his relatives ...with today's taxpayers money for loss of their lands. Maori are neither indigenous nor entitled, but the elite "maori" have fooled stupid politicians who want maori votes and white guilt-tripped liberals, into saying "give them the money". Meanwhile poor maori will not see this money....
@@kiwitoffee Yes, but they are making a living doing it and some iwi are wealthy beyond their dreams and spend the money on themselves - look up their published accounts - I did ...they take the money as "directors loans" and so do not even pay taxes.
@Duckz558 SOME Maori were treated, badly by SOME of the people who came here for a better life. We cant rewrite history, but we can learn from it, if we want to. Do i need to pay reparation for things that happened to people I don't know and never met, caused by people I don't know and never met, almost a century before I was born so had no chance of changing what happened anyway. I have maori family members, do you think they believe Im a monster seeking genocide? Do you think they even notice I'm not Maori, much less care about it? Let me help you out, they don't give a stuff about my colour and neither do I care about theirs. Why? Because it doesnt matter, I love them for the amazing people they are. Time for Waititi, Ngariwa-Packer and the evil Maori Party to stop their hate speech, because they're really starting to harm people.
Her comments are insane Simultaneously claiming there are more Maori than ever while claiming there is a genocide She clearly doesn’t understand the English language
Ti Pati Maori reminds as that one million identity as Maori, of some proportion. Ti Pati Maori doesn't appear to have the greymatter collectively, that most don't vote for their racist, bigoted rhetoric.
@@pauljones3062I'm 25% and will never identify with that lot. I was raised to work hard and never take whats not mine. These Maori leaders want a nation of lazy, entitled welfare kings and queens.
@@Duckz558 you are spot on , brucey boy is obviously white and delusional, there is only one colour that has been enslaved and been victims of apartheid and it's not my race
Is there one law in this country for all ? Or is there one law for Māori and another for the rest of us ? If we had a Prime Minister with some guts he would answer this and deal with racism from either side of spectrum. But Luxon is sadly lacking in anything other than the pursuit of ever more trade at whatever cost to our country.
@delinquentinparadise yous don’t even follow your own laws little lone knowing the meaning what about the same justice does that come into the equation?
Back in the early 1980s when I worked at MFAT we knew some Maori activists were going to Cuba for Communist training. This makes me wonder whether the current Maori politicians are also being trained by communists, although with the near- total infiltration of NZ by communism/ socialism maybe they're simply soaking up the ideology within NZ??
This needs prime time TV viewing / discussion . Most of us, see it , hear it, know it and understand it happening before our eyes... but good on you Michael and Shane for balls against the mike . Just wondering - do you think it's possible that there maybe foreign influence and backing of any sort connected to this radicalized movement of this parties political cognitive dissonance ?
The present MPs in the Maori party have always been like this. They have been racist activists since child hood. It’s only now they are in parliament that anyone is taking any notice.
you want maori locked🔒in the closet how its been for a 100yrs at least now Maori has gain recognition yous can’t handle controversy of intense arguments of rights but only implementation of racial slurs
E tautoko ana au i ngā kōrero katoa o Shane Jones MP. It is my view as a Māori that this is indeed what is happening here in our country. People are being emotionally manipulated and heavily influenced to adopt the position of victim. TPM are being exposed for their bigotry. One nation!
Why do Maori who move overseas and live as independent individuals become successful ? They don’t feel restrained to think ,speak and act as a Maori. They don’t think and feel as a victim. They don’t blame other races for their downfalls. Te Pati despises these Maori individuals. Te Pati needs dependent, hopeless and angry constituents. Shane summed it up perfectly. 😊
Thank goodness we have now some intelligent politicians speaking out against this ridiculous accidic revolting woe is me Cow Patty party nonsense , the fact that he is Maori as well makes his views even better , go Shane .!!
Thank you, Michael and Shane, Respect for the Real Maori of recent past, however no time now for the enth 16th 32th 64th smidgen of Maori blood who have (my observation) morphed the beauty of Maori Histories with ideologies from corrupt leaders /idols from the east europe and asia for their own self gain, rather sad.
The way TPM are, my vote is forced to be against everything Maori. I dont have a choice as I see it if I want a future here. Its all linked as far as I am concerned. I am a created voter by their retotic as I am only 5 years in NZ. I arrived with no idea of NZ politics and TBH didnt want to. Since arriving I have been allocated a race by Maori I never asked for having never had one all my life, then told because I am that race I am nothing to Maori. I get reminded every day on the news what I now am and if I need an extra reminder, I can try and catch the Jenny-May Clarkson Political Slot on Breakfast TV. I get TPM are fanatics and I read strong Moari opinion against them, but TPM are having a negative effect on everything Moari which isnt right but nobody is telling them to pull their head in, including Maori. I cant seperate IWI from TPM or Moari Wards. Their retoric has created me as a voter and to exist in NZ as Non Moari, I feel I have no choice to vote against everything they do. I am in effect cancelling out a fantatical pro TPM voter now. Nobody can tell me one policy the TPM has for non Maori?
Because most NZers are chill and tolerant, and prefer to just ignore them. Also, most NZers believe in free speech. TMP are allowed to have their opinion. Just like anyone should be free to call them out on it. Unfortunately if there *was* any kind of protest, you know the Human Rights Commission would be on it in a flash, and TV1 and Stuff would lead the news in outrage at the "divisive bigots and racists". In other words, having an opinion that disagrees with the TMP / left-wing narrative is dangerous in this country.
Maori party are dark with no fruits to show they're activist want to preach maori pagan beliefs,, wich should be a choice, to learn not to lead our lifes,, Being colonized is how you measure change,, ,from repecting all cultures,, and looking forward for a better,future, not to devide over old sores,, that will never heal,,
This book... Witi Ihimaera Sleeps Standing Moetu with HEMI KELLY published 16th April 2016 I think this is what Hon. Shane Jones is talking about. No, I have not read this book.
The comparison between Gaza and Singapore provides a salutary comparison. Both have little in the way of natural resources other than their people. In Palestine, activism around land ownership, ethnicity and toxic religion has inflamed seperation and violence. It has left the people of Palestine, broken and destitute. I am not saying that there isn't a place to address historic grievences, but the way chosen by Hamas, is in my view, is not the way forward. A man much wiser than me once said that "by your fruits you will know them". Compare the outcomes with that of Singapore. Here a tiny nation state (with a higher population density than Gaza), comprised of four principle ethnic group including Malay's (The historic occupants of the land, colonised by the British in the 19th century and occupied by the Japanese in the 20th cent), Indians, Chinese, and English. Each group has its own cultural and religious beliefs, - Muslem, Buddhism, Hindism and Christianity. And yet, under wise leadership, they have been able to develop a vision for the united nation of Singapore, a nation that transcended other ethnic and religious loyalties, Singapore has thrived. It is peaceful, prosperous and successful. The various ethnicities have retained their culture and religion, but these differences haven't become a source of conflict. You can visit Little India, China Town and the Moselm quarter and experince their unique, rich cultural expressons. Today Gaza is broken, and Singapore is thriving. Potentially, Gaza (and Israel) could be another Singapore. Seperatism is not the way forward to a peaceful and prosperous future.
Imagine if "pakeha" adopted the "blood-shaming" fanaticism of Te Pati Maori, there would quite literally be a bloodbath, and yet they are given a free pass from academia and mainstream media. So who are the real bigots in this country?
Shane's translation of the term "moumou tou toto Maori" is 100 percent incorrect... Nowhere in that term is any word that translates to "traitor"... The term translated simply says... "A waste of your Maori blood"....nothing more.
no Shane we are after Iwi Independence the treaty is your governments focus we iwi however adhere want are focusing on the declaration of 1835 Te Whakaputanga
Shayne always neglects to say he's proud to be Maori. He hints at it yet when talking to a predominantly pakeha audience, he doesn't say he and his whanau are fluent in te Maori. That his moko are in kapa haka. He and Winston are where they are by NOT singing the praises of Maori. If they did have any even slightly perceived loyalty to Maori they'd be out. Pakeha love it when they get up in parliament and ridicule Maoridom as a whole except for the submissive quiet Maori. I am very sure Winston and Shayne started out to help Maori by getting their bums in there. Yet to stay and get as high as they are they've had to effectively eat their own kind. Hence the Harry Potter comment. Shayne did you know was beaten badly by police for being Anti the South African tour back in the day? No of coarse you don't. Maori are proud of these 2 men as we know just how much they have had to endure to help our people. You'll even hear Winston say how he fought tirelessly to help places like Opotiki. We love these 2 men. And the new Maori member of the National Party. What a fine well spoken Maori man. Sometime change should be embraced. Maori are getting tired of seeing our Shaynes and Winston work so tirelessly for very little thanks across the board except from racists getting hard from them belittling there own. What do Shayne and Winston tick on a pakeha official form? Maori or something else?
@delinquentinparadise yous don’t even follow your own laws little lone knowing the meaning what about the same justice does that come into the equation?
yous only push something like tis when there is a need of something of maori inheritance always, displayed through history same bull💩needing to change laws to suit themselves in doing so leaving the actuals (owners) out
Thing is Maori were obviously promised alot in the treaty and got ripped.I dont really care if there are Maori out there whom wish to have self autonomy.I have all ready worked out how it can operate alongside the current system and at minimal cost.I even sent the Maori party my concept of how a dual system can work.Of cause no reply ,because theyre all mouth and little actual thought out substance
Lets all be one in New Zealand.Stop this racial bullshit.I repect everyone be they pink,white,black,Irish,Maori, not one rule for a certain race.What is that called.Racism springs to mind.
So ridiculous. Maori were never one people. But were made up of tribes who spent much of the time battling over food and resources, and killing each other. Then engaging in a forever spiral of utu. I have Maori ancestry and my ancestors were nearly all slaughtered and enslaved by Te Rauparaha at Onawe Pa in 1832. Lucky my great x4 Grandfather escaped. The good ol' days eh?!!! No thanks!
Seems we are whanau then, ae te rauparaha caused alot of mamae. It's partially why I refused to perform ka mate at school (apparently it was the only haka known in the early 2000s) and would only do our own haka from my rohe.
My ancestors on the east coast in wairoa weren't that fond of bloodshed and would often shame their enemies by hanging them upside down in trees until the surrendered. Back in the day surrendering brought more shame on the wider hapu than actual death. We didn't like the never endeding cycle of utu, even my ancestor te rauhina made the distinction that she was not a woman that ate flesh to the point her husband's other wife was the man eating wife. You'll find it's not an all encompassing thing and the first tuturu Maori that inhabited these lands before the more recent migrations were very kind people and were more similar to moriori in terms of their nature and stature. Namely bc there were two brothers in which moriori descend from, one went to rekohu the other one went up in te Urewera.
Thank you so much for your account! you have got it! proud of the good bits shameful stuff not so much same for us all ! my viking bits both brave & AWEFUL BUT today is now we are all here now the world is ours we can make it better ...or worse thank you
Sounds like u need some reparations from another tribe
@@Pastaaa204 Yeah not my favourite haka either haha! Some have theories that the weather shifted in the Island and times became much tougher, with more droughts and storms so that's when the competition for resources really started. Sparking migrations. Plus the fight for those resources became a matter of survival leading to a more warrior culture, and a more warlike people than before. If that's the case then it could explain why the people of the first migrations were much more peaceful in nature. Like the Moriori etc who got largely wiped out by some of Ngati toa's allies from Taranaki.
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Dangerous and deluded.
They themselves are living proof that their claims are false.
Well done, Shane Jones.
Well when no actual Maori existed their claim was legitimate.
But now anyone with a Maori ancestor is Maori.
That must make me Aboriginal from 5 generation or more since a 100% Aboriginal ancestor.
I must be owed reparations.
Even though Im as pale as pale comes.
There is no non european maori so they have no claim of anythings anymore.
@@jimijamesjowittI well perhaps if your aboriginal ancestors had a treaty guaranteeing your equity you could expect an equitable outcome
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893really aren't you tired? Isn't it time to stand in your own power your own evolution? Surely RIP means to move forward and allow our predecessors to rest while we take care of ourselves. Isn't it all just so tiring 😴
@@djhemirukahemisphere8893well said. 👍 agreed
@@jimijamesjowittonly 5 generations??? My family goes back 47 generations. That's a mighty big difference to be calling yourself indigenous... do you have Polynesian heritage or culture????
The Maori party does not represent decent hard working Maori who want the best for themselves and their families, well said Shane Jones.
@marklayland
so what do you think maori want the best for themselves and their families?
That is because they are professional victims. The Māori that you described are not.
@@logicalanswer3529we want a Maori parliament that has no te pati Maori influence. Alot of their policies were rinse and repeat of labour and green and don't focus on issues that are at the forefront of Maori minds. TPM aside from hana imo, are just antagonisers - I laugh at Debbie most times but hardly ever take her seriously. I feel as though they don't have to be so dismissive of others interpretation and refusing to enlighten people in their reasoning for their vernacular , they're doing a Winston essentially - giving half truths that if you're unaware of the history will trigger a negative response.
One thing I do have to disagree with is that they're choosing to hyperfixate on the Maori document te tiriti simply bc they're TPM - by international standards the legally binding document is the one in the indigenous language as opposed to colonial forces. Just think, if the original govt ensured both were a true translation of one another without any intentional deception then te tiriti wouldn't hold more weight internationally than the English variant The treaty of waitangi🤷🏻♀️ just food for thought anyway
Those are New Zealanders.
Anyone identifying by race are definitely not New Zealanders as we dont have racists on our team.
We actually have laws which haven't bee enforced recently preventing racism and hate speech.
@serdownofhousebad1127 have you heard of the waitangi tribunal by any chance? 🤣 🤔😆
The Maori Party have gone extremist and separatist. They do not in anyway represent myself as a proud Maori.
@@danielphillips4399 Amazing, I agree absolutely
Damn I voted for them too
The style of leadership is more leaning towards kingitanga and mana motuhake theres friction and plenty of fracture there but they need to be more realistc and focus on getting a bill in place to much haerere ki tawahi and more hui less doey.
I have Māori blood and none of us are owed anything we are all kiwis
me too
@@petergrant1322
obviously not knowing your maori heritage but more of your european heritage i guess
@Duckz558 nothing wrong with that, but y not acknowledge ur more than likley 2/3non Maori blood lines .
@@Duckz558 What a naive comment. I am also of Maori descent and and happen to know my genealogy/whakapapa very well. I couldn't care less if TMP consider me a 'blood traitor'. Their rhetoric is totally toxic and shameful.
@@Duckz558 I know my Maori heritage and I am first a Christian, then a Kiwi., then have an interest in Scots, Irish and Maori heritage, like some parts , dislike others, never been a bludger, or lived with a victim mentality. I worked until 69 years old. Never had a hand out
TPM are a disgrace for their rhetoric. Have them tell someone from Rwanda or Cambodia about genocide
SO TRUE. I am from neither country, but you raise a point that should be heard.
And countries invaded by America
They were the first to commit genocide in New Zealand - Fact.
Just like the british around the world
@@logicalanswer3529 No different to the british of the 1700s and 1800s ,its only genoside if its not them ,
Shane speaks the truth
Yes he does. 👍🌹
No He Dosnt 🤣🤣🤣🤦🏽🤦🏽
Yes he does.@@maorifilm
Yes he dose.
He does speak truth to a blood traitor.
He speaks as one
"A toxic mix of idealogical bigotry".......love it. Thanks Shane.
Nothing Toxic about the truth, it's trying to get the dumb to understand what we are all saying and believing in. Well said Shane Jones.
Always delighted to hear Shane speak. Great command of language.
Cindy allowed moari free rein, in fact Labour allowed everything free rein, gangs, crime, gays etc etc
Bit worse than that she endorsed gangs literally had financial contracts with em
@@jonathanwright5550 Can you enlarge on that please Jonathan. We know she gave $2.6 million to the Mongrel Mob for 'drug rehabilitation'. How else did her Labour Party cozy up to gangs.
So pleased Kiwis are starting to call out false, inflammatory & hateful language.
What ever f o 😂😮😊
@@rosssouthwell8678 You can get moody all you want, the tide is changing.
Maybe non maori who identify as Kiwi should pause for a moment ant ask themselves why the chose a maori word to identify themselves.
There is mo reason why you can't however; if no part of your physical DNA is of maori descent and you think we should all be accepted as New Zealanders... then doesn't it make logical sense to refer to yourselves as New Zealanders?
Shane makes me pround to be a new Zealander keep up your great meaningful work..you hit the nail on the head...
Maybe someone like Shane and Karen Chhour needs to take the maori party to the human rights commission and race relations tribunal and have them on hate speech and racism. That's also it, how ist it pakeha can be taken to the race relations on racism yet pakeha aren't allowed to or get frowned upon if we take any other race to the race relations?! Isn't that contradictory of what it's there for?
human rights commission is fully compromised
That tutae pati is run by JT the Waipareira Trust ceo skimming money from the trust accounts intrest free to fund his muppet show with Rawiri and Debbie at the wheel steering towards the ditch.
Well said
I voted left until Jacinda started goose stepping around important questions.
There goal is to divide
I love our country and people
Wouldn't mind closing our borders for a year our infrastructure can't cope
Im no fan of Jones but he hit the nail on the head....TPM were emboldened because Adern was so clearly out of her depth and in fear of her Maori caucus and TPM...this is all a result of weak leadership on her behalf. Winston Peter, Jones, Seymour etc all show far more leadership and leading for all NZers than she or TPM have or will do.
Tea party Maori Party should be ashamed of their actions, racist and hateful rhetoric towards the rest of the country is shameful and unacceptable, the treaty is now being used against the majority of people in New Zealand
? Green Tea party.
Dear Matthew, Great great comment..👍👏👍 I DEFINITELY feel the same as I have had a gut full of them. Thank you. Hope you and your family are well. With love ❤and blessings 🙏
@@mattheweden-pc5pk
Yeah but Luxon is to weak & will not help Act bring his Principles bill to reality as with the ongoing co governance Luxon will allow it to continue.
I voted for Te Pati not knowing this party would be using my vote for their private agenda
How many of you who are in this party are full blooded Maori and turning my vote into something I would never have supported due to the fact I am from mixed blood my children, my mokos and my great mokos how dare you belittle me and my whanau both Maori and Pakeha also Tongan Niuen Chinese
I now realise what a huge mistake I have
I do not support racism in any way shape or form both black brown and white.
Start doing the job we put there for to make sure our people get the support they need such as health homes jobs education and their wellbeing not this crap you are feeding our youngs with
All you have done is made my role as a great Nana Nana mother aunty mother inlaw sister sister inlaw a whole lot harder as if I haven't enough to deal because of this rhetoric both black and white....
Teaching all of my whanau to be proud of who and what they are.
Evon Moir nee Edmonds nee Leaf nee Tito
@@evonmoir9587
Thank you Shane Jones and Micheal. NZ is heading in a new direction thanks to your voices, one that creates free open and important dialogue. You are the new Media.
“I’m a victim because I’m Māori “ blah blah blah sick of the victim hood mentality among these ones
they only push something like tis when they want something of maori inheritance always see it through history
the Maori Party using the same type of White supremacist rhetoric. How ironic.
@brianscott1062
same as nat/acts/nzf is what you mean by the same?
Maori supremacist rhetoric.
@@Duckz558no actually from labour n the greens do your homework
Are you handicapped mate?
@@Duckz558 cope harder 😂
Thank you Michael👍🌹 Blessings and Thank you Minister Shane Jones. 👍🌹
In 1945, a "full and final" settlement of all maori claims was made by the then government, paid by the taxpayer to maori Iwi which was so enormous, it was paid over 30 years in instalments. in the 1950s there were 295,000 part maori defined as being half or more than half maori. Since then, they are way more inbred with other races. As iwi realised the money was going to stop being paid in 1974, they both re-defined what is a maori in 1974 and started civil unrest which lead to the Treaty of Waitangi Act 1975 which has led to the New Zealand taxpayer paying a further $36 BILLION to maori Iwi, up to 2018 which equates to $122,000 per maori as defined in the 50s. The question we should be asking is where is all the money and why is it only the so called "maori elite" that benefit from these huge taxpayer funded payouts ?
These crooks need to keep the hate propaganda running to keep the money running for themselves. What we should be saying is, how about you give all the money back to the government and they share it amongst ALL the poor which you keep claiming are mostly maori, would that not be the best way to solve maori poverty instead of blaming the very people who are paying the tax ?
@trevordance3453
peanuts 🥜 compared to what maori endured doesn’t really change a thing it seems
tell me theses so call reparations what were they paid out for? criminal acts? racial abuse? what’s the facts to it all if you think you know
@trevordance3453 totally agree. These people are shameless.
@@Duckz558 Well Duckz, you can look them all up. Now imagine this. There is a group of people in a room who have to decide what to pay. Many of the people in the room will be the recipients of the money or their lawyers, no actual evidence is required to be presented other than "statements" (maori call this oral history) no cross-examination is done. After every one who is interested has said their bit, negotiations begin on how much taxpayers money will be handed over. The taxpayer's interests are NOT represented and no defence against the claim is made. Then they write up the "claim" as a piece of legislation and it is passed. Anyone who does not vote "for" the legislation is then called a racist and their tenure in parliament is therefore limited.
Compare this farcical "tribunal" with a real court where actual evidence is required and can be questioned for both authenticity and relevance and an independent assessment is made of right and wrong by a jury.
If that was not an open check-book ready for abuse, I do not know what is... but it gets worse. The claims now routinely finish up with "this does not preclude further claims being made in future".
So what are the claims actually based on ? Here is a typical scenario. Hone Heke went to Australia and purchased muskets with money given to him by the British. After signing the Treaty and agreeing to peace, he then went on a rampage around NZ killing other iwi and settlers alike - this was treason. He was warned that he would lose his lands if he did not stop, he did not stop and lost his lands - he was not executed as was routine for British at the time. Fast forward to 1975 and now the taxpayer today are "compensating" people who may have had ancestors of this murderous thug or his relatives ...with today's taxpayers money for loss of their lands.
Maori are neither indigenous nor entitled, but the elite "maori" have fooled stupid politicians who want maori votes and white guilt-tripped liberals, into saying "give them the money". Meanwhile poor maori will not see this money....
@@kiwitoffee Yes, but they are making a living doing it and some iwi are wealthy beyond their dreams and spend the money on themselves - look up their published accounts - I did ...they take the money as "directors loans" and so do not even pay taxes.
@Duckz558 SOME Maori were treated, badly by SOME of the people who came here for a better life. We cant rewrite history, but we can learn from it, if we want to.
Do i need to pay reparation for things that happened to people I don't know and never met, caused by people I don't know and never met, almost a century before I was born so had no chance of changing what happened anyway. I have maori family members, do you think they believe Im a monster seeking genocide? Do you think they even notice I'm not Maori, much less care about it? Let me help you out, they don't give a stuff about my colour and neither do I care about theirs. Why? Because it doesnt matter, I love them for the amazing people they are.
Time for Waititi, Ngariwa-Packer and the evil Maori Party to stop their hate speech, because they're really starting to harm people.
Her comments are insane Simultaneously claiming there are more Maori than ever while claiming there is a genocide She clearly doesn’t understand the English language
TPM are joke and at this point driving a wagon of hatred and division not only amongst Maori but also NZ society.
What amazes me is that one race can ask from all other races what they themselves don't give........respect! I respect only those who EARN respect!
both ways don’t you think?
@@Duckz558 Hohum.
Shane jones has amazed me..and as a strong labour past supporter hes come good..i love his mature vision
Ti Pati Maori reminds as that one million identity as Maori, of some proportion.
Ti Pati Maori doesn't appear to have the greymatter collectively, that most don't vote for their racist, bigoted rhetoric.
I wonder how many of the Maori Party MPs are more than half maori?
@@Digmen1none
Most are less than 20% Maori so what is the other 80% !!!
Most are less than 10% but are eligible for more welfare!!
@@pauljones3062I'm 25% and will never identify with that lot. I was raised to work hard and never take whats not mine. These Maori leaders want a nation of lazy, entitled welfare kings and queens.
@@Digmen1 0
Thank you Michael for an informative interview.
I appreciate the way Michael listens to the interviewee, as opposed to Sean Plunket's style.
There is only One Race; the Human Race !!
Homosapiens and some are mixed with neanderthal and denisovan.
@brucehardwick8824
got that wrong why is one race is treated differently from another race then forgetting traditional cultural think again
@@Duckz558 you are spot on , brucey boy is obviously white and delusional, there is only one colour that has been enslaved and been victims of apartheid and it's not my race
This is exactly the type of toxic radical blood shaming "tribalism" and prime reason why many Maori signed the treaty of Waitangi.
His last statements are why Nz first needs to remain in parliament.
the human rights commission has been captured by TPM
@karunac1311
not at all tpm are demonstrating same level the likes of acts/nzf really
compromised
Is there one law in this country for all ? Or is there one law for Māori and another for the rest of us ? If we had a Prime Minister with some guts he would answer this and deal with racism from either side of spectrum. But Luxon is sadly lacking in anything other than the pursuit of ever more trade at whatever cost to our country.
@delinquentinparadise
yous don’t even follow your own laws little lone knowing the meaning
what about the same justice does that come into the equation?
We have a priminister that stated biden was coherent....
@@jonathanwright5550 you do not understand politics.
Nice Shane!
Back in the early 1980s when I worked at MFAT we knew some Maori activists were going to Cuba for Communist training. This makes me wonder whether the current Maori politicians are also being trained by communists, although with the near- total infiltration of NZ by communism/ socialism maybe they're simply soaking up the ideology within NZ??
The Maori party appeal to their voter base.. Jake Heke types. Pathetic!!
Nice shane keep up the great work u r doin❤
This needs prime time TV viewing / discussion . Most of us, see it , hear it, know it and understand it happening before our eyes... but good on you Michael and Shane for balls against the mike .
Just wondering - do you think it's possible that there maybe foreign influence and backing of any sort connected to this radicalized movement of this parties political cognitive dissonance ?
Our main stream TV is to busy going out of business, this sort of serious news and discussion is way beyond their woke view of NZ.
I believe so.
I think there is. Caused by the U.N.
This should be required listening for us all.
Unfortunately some people have the Idea that the Minority Rules 😅
Because in NZ, it does.
@@AmonAnon-vw3hr It's the white,western, way.
@@stevesmith1923
so you think you’ll be surprise minority can change the course
@@NA-sj9jy We are watching our societies fail in real time.
40 years of life, all I've ever seen is denial that Maori treat others with utter disrespect.
quintinsmith5400
yeah european are knowing to be disrespectful to other cultures of the lands 🌎wide
Omg what a great interview
Well said Shane
The present MPs in the Maori party have always been like this. They have been racist activists since child hood. It’s only now they are in parliament that anyone is taking any notice.
you want maori locked🔒in the closet how its been for a 100yrs at least now Maori has gain recognition yous can’t handle controversy of intense arguments of rights but only implementation of racial slurs
@@Duckz558 who is giving the racial slurs, oh it’s the Maori party
Excellent 👌 Shane...you really know how it is....
Did their seats come from Maori or did they manipulate the vote As has been suggested.
Shane jones puts thing so very well
In fact, step aside Winston, there are signs of a new leader for New Zealand First and our Country's future.
You are spot on Shane. T.hank you
They could claim that making a cup of white tea out of tea bags is racist.
Debbie the dog ain’t a Mowry ow!!
E tautoko ana au i ngā kōrero katoa o Shane Jones MP. It is my view as a Māori that this is indeed what is happening here in our country. People are being emotionally manipulated and heavily influenced to adopt the position of victim. TPM are being exposed for their bigotry. One nation!
Why are they police not taking action on Maori Party hate speech.
Or, should I say, Part Maori Party hate speech.
all parties are speaking the same language of tone no difference to the likes of winny seymour and jones
@Mizpah5
fake news keep looking you will find the truth 🎉
And the Act party leader who also has naori blood
but on another boat of his european heritage it seems like the few of them now discovered that don’t talk for every maori as it stands
NZ has been blackmailed by maori since day one it needs to stop.
Too many woman in politics that have no skills.
You should be a guest on the show.
Why do Maori who move overseas and live as independent individuals become successful ?
They don’t feel restrained to think ,speak and act as a Maori.
They don’t think and feel as a victim.
They don’t blame other races for their downfalls.
Te Pati despises these Maori individuals.
Te Pati needs dependent, hopeless and angry constituents.
Shane summed it up perfectly. 😊
Thank goodness we have now some intelligent politicians speaking out against this ridiculous accidic revolting woe is me Cow Patty party nonsense , the fact that he is Maori as well makes his views even better , go Shane .!!
When does jabcindas hate speech laws kick in or is that just for non moari
100% correct.
@@logicalanswer3529
💯what?
Thank you, Michael and Shane,
Respect for the Real Maori of recent past, however no time now for the enth 16th 32th 64th smidgen of Maori blood who have (my observation) morphed the beauty of Maori Histories with ideologies from corrupt leaders /idols from the east europe and asia for their own self gain, rather sad.
How is that not hate speech ?
Free pass by the Speaker of the House! 🤷♀️
At most. Part Māori. I worry about the repressed or denied ethnicities they harbour.
@julian4548
maybe you need to read up until you do you would understand your maori side like non other
That is the way they usually speak. Nothing new.
The way TPM are, my vote is forced to be against everything Maori. I dont have a choice as I see it if I want a future here. Its all linked as far as I am concerned. I am a created voter by their retotic as I am only 5 years in NZ. I arrived with no idea of NZ politics and TBH didnt want to. Since arriving I have been allocated a race by Maori I never asked for having never had one all my life, then told because I am that race I am nothing to Maori. I get reminded every day on the news what I now am and if I need an extra reminder, I can try and catch the Jenny-May Clarkson Political Slot on Breakfast TV. I get TPM are fanatics and I read strong Moari opinion against them, but TPM are having a negative effect on everything Moari which isnt right but nobody is telling them to pull their head in, including Maori. I cant seperate IWI from TPM or Moari Wards. Their retoric has created me as a voter and to exist in NZ as Non Moari, I feel I have no choice to vote against everything they do. I am in effect cancelling out a fantatical pro TPM voter now. Nobody can tell me one policy the TPM has for non Maori?
Shameful dangerous comments. Let's look ahead with togetherness not backwards. Debbie should be stood down not fit to be a politician in this country.
So why does no one do a protest against maori and the maori party?
Because most NZers are chill and tolerant, and prefer to just ignore them. Also, most NZers believe in free speech.
TMP are allowed to have their opinion. Just like anyone should be free to call them out on it.
Unfortunately if there *was* any kind of protest, you know the Human Rights Commission would be on it in a flash, and TV1 and Stuff would lead the news in outrage at the "divisive bigots and racists". In other words, having an opinion that disagrees with the TMP / left-wing narrative is dangerous in this country.
Thanks!
Maori party are dark with no fruits to show they're activist want to preach maori pagan beliefs,, wich should be a choice, to learn not to lead our lifes,, Being colonized is how you measure change,, ,from repecting all cultures,, and looking forward for a better,future, not to devide over old sores,, that will never heal,,
well said
TE Pati Maori should go back to Taiwon where we origionaly came from
Interesting, didn't see the parallel between Te Pati Maori's race-based rhetoric and the Death Eaters of Harry Potter.
I won't vote for rhetoric... Shane is right, I hate to be labelled as a Maori privilege....
Bigostry is not restricted.
from european
Kupe's Curse.
Church that says it all
Scary but True….this is what happens when you let the lunatics run the asylum!
This book... Witi Ihimaera Sleeps Standing Moetu with HEMI KELLY published 16th April 2016 I think this is what Hon. Shane Jones is talking about. No, I have not read this book.
Are all Māori ashamed of their European heritage, or are they ignorant of who and what makes them individuals.
Te Putty Te Kaka !! NZ First Maori Are Great Again !!
F#*k around and find out......that will be the moral of this story.
De Shane, I went straight to Harry Potter when I heard “blood traitor” too…how are there still people that didn’t understand the moral of that story.
The comparison between Gaza and Singapore provides a salutary comparison. Both have little in the way of natural resources other than their people. In Palestine, activism around land ownership, ethnicity and toxic religion has inflamed seperation and violence. It has left the people of Palestine, broken and destitute. I am not saying that there isn't a place to address historic grievences, but the way chosen by Hamas, is in my view, is not the way forward. A man much wiser than me once said that "by your fruits you will know them". Compare the outcomes with that of Singapore. Here a tiny nation state (with a higher population density than Gaza), comprised of four principle ethnic group including Malay's (The historic occupants of the land, colonised by the British in the 19th century and occupied by the Japanese in the 20th cent), Indians, Chinese, and English. Each group has its own cultural and religious beliefs, - Muslem, Buddhism, Hindism and Christianity. And yet, under wise leadership, they have been able to develop a vision for the united nation of Singapore, a nation that transcended other ethnic and religious loyalties, Singapore has thrived. It is peaceful, prosperous and successful. The various ethnicities have retained their culture and religion, but these differences haven't become a source of conflict. You can visit Little India, China Town and the Moselm quarter and experince their unique, rich cultural expressons. Today Gaza is broken, and Singapore is thriving. Potentially, Gaza (and Israel) could be another Singapore. Seperatism is not the way forward to a peaceful and prosperous future.
Bluey Shane Jones.....
Is he reminds me of mortises of Adam’s family touch of craziness about her ha ha
Imagine if "pakeha" adopted the "blood-shaming" fanaticism of Te Pati Maori, there would quite literally be a bloodbath, and yet they are given a free pass from academia and mainstream media. So who are the real bigots in this country?
Shane's translation of the term "moumou tou toto Maori" is 100 percent incorrect...
Nowhere in that term is any word that translates to "traitor"...
The term translated simply says...
"A waste of your Maori blood"....nothing more.
Trying to be a Hoi poloi with his rhetoric!!!!!!
no Shane we are after Iwi Independence the treaty is your governments focus we iwi however adhere want are focusing on the declaration of 1835 Te Whakaputanga
The only time Shane Jones talks is when the hotel porn chanel is faulty
Shayne always neglects to say he's proud to be Maori. He hints at it yet when talking to a predominantly pakeha audience, he doesn't say he and his whanau are fluent in te Maori. That his moko are in kapa haka. He and Winston are where they are by NOT singing the praises of Maori. If they did have any even slightly perceived loyalty to Maori they'd be out.
Pakeha love it when they get up in parliament and ridicule Maoridom as a whole except for the submissive quiet Maori.
I am very sure Winston and Shayne started out to help Maori by getting their bums in there. Yet to stay and get as high as they are they've had to effectively eat their own kind. Hence the Harry Potter comment.
Shayne did you know was beaten badly by police for being Anti the South African tour back in the day?
No of coarse you don't.
Maori are proud of these 2 men as we know just how much they have had to endure to help our people.
You'll even hear Winston say how he fought tirelessly to help places like Opotiki.
We love these 2 men. And the new Maori member of the National Party. What a fine well spoken Maori man.
Sometime change should be embraced. Maori are getting tired of seeing our Shaynes and Winston work so tirelessly for very little thanks across the board except from racists getting hard from them belittling there own.
What do Shayne and Winston tick on a pakeha official form? Maori or something else?
Shane is Kūpapa.. Nothing Māori about him‼️‼️Talking alot of Raruraru🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ca
@karunac1311
not at all tpm are demonstrating same level of behaviour the likes of acts/nzf really
@delinquentinparadise
yous don’t even follow your own laws little lone knowing the meaning
what about the same justice does that come into the equation?
Could atleast try to pronounce Māori correctly
yous only push something like tis when there is a need of something of maori inheritance always, displayed through history same bull💩needing to change laws to suit themselves in doing so leaving the actuals (owners) out
Thing is Maori were obviously promised alot in the treaty and got ripped.I dont really care if there are Maori out there whom wish to have self autonomy.I have all ready worked out how it can operate alongside the current system and at minimal cost.I even sent the Maori party my concept of how a dual system can work.Of cause no reply ,because theyre all mouth and little actual thought out substance
Shaddup Shane and stop shit stirring with your verbal bs
Lets all be one in New Zealand.Stop this racial bullshit.I repect everyone be they pink,white,black,Irish,Maori, not one rule for a certain race.What is that called.Racism springs to mind.