This is absolutely wild, imagine deciding to do this in your 20s under the assumption that you're just going to help out a couple of families and then finding out 30 years later you have enough biological children to run a football team.
And considering he's a doctor, he's definitely aware of how much they have fucked up the regional gene pool by pulling this crap, the fact that his grandsons will have to get dna tests regularly says a lot
@@dog_city it matters because genetics deseases can happen if you mix similar genetic material, if there are that much siblings, so close to each other without knowing. The offspring may meet each other and get together, and have other children who can be born with genetic problems without knowing it could have been avoided. And in a more unlikely setting incest can happen.
I think it’s neat that his donor children are on his side for the lawsuit and understand his point of view. A lot of them seem to have gained strong friendships too.
They're all adults, which is good. There's no kid that suddenly feel like they want to have a dad. instead its adults that know how to make coherent decisions.
@@Eralen00 I doubt anyone would do that (though you never know), but a lot of people would resent the lawsuit due to its nature. Just look at all the people arguing against abortion by going “I was an unplanned pregnancy/the result of rape/a child with congenital abnormalities and my mother could have aborted me, but if she had I wouldn’t be here.” Like the idea of some stranger advocating for the right to exercise one’s reproductive freedom is almost a personal attack to them, because they know it could easily have been them. It’s similar in this case. It’s essentially a lawsuit that argues some of these people should not have been born. It’s not a pov I share or even a reaction that I really get, but it’s not a given that everyone would be able to look at it logically, without their emotions getting in the way. In that sense it is commendable.
@@EIizabethGrace he isn't "advocating for the right to exercise one's reproductive freedom" doe, he's advocating for some control in these clinics, he isn't saying "these people should never have been born", he's saying "these people shouldn't have been born, using my genetic material, as that can cause inbreeding, due to the carelessness and money-grubbing of a clinic", if these clinics had some morals (yeh a company with morals kekw), or some control, these people's mothers would still have gone to these clinics, and these people would still have been born, just not all from the same father/genetic material, in a relatively small area, where they can meet, and unknowingly inbreed...
@@hehexd5317 I guess it all comes down to how you view the nature human life in that sense, I guess. Any combination of eggs and sperm even involving the same people would technically be unique, so the child that would have been born of an entirely different donation would arguaby not be them. Which means the lawsuit would techinically, as one of them actually mentioned, be against their existence. It isn't irrational to think that. The point is that, if you look past that first, instinctively off-putting factor, the subject of the lawsuit is actually the bio father, but even more so it's largely impersonal. It's about medical practice, biology, social issues, ethics and a bunch of other stuff going well beyond the existence of these kids as anything more than objects of the same. So I agree with you. I'm just saying not everyone really thinks that way, in my experience. Some people would prioritize the value-based notions above the rational ones and likely come to a conclusion along the lines of 'I see what's going on (or not, depending on how much they at least looked at it from a different perspective), but I can't support a lawsuit that states I shouldn't be here.' Personally, it doesn't sound very constructive, but it's not a given that someone would not think like the people in this video. Just wanted to point that out.
Imagine if you accidentally married your own sibling without you knowing about it, and then your offspring have a genetic disabilities. that's the reason why Bryce suing the clinic.
This is why people shouldn't participate in these kinds of clinics, anyway. These are the messed up incidents that happen when we mess with nature. There's nothing wrong with adoption if you're infertile or single, so many kids conceived naturally that don't have homes. There's no need for these absurd practices.
@@ashtastical2622 i do agree that adopting is better. i even plan to adopt. but we all, no matter how we’re born or who our legal parents are, need regulations.
@meme is my life No, some guys have weak genes compared to the females they have kids with, so the kids usually inherit from the mom in that case. This is obviously not the case here.
You need to remember this happened 30 years ago..... im sure the ENTIRE staff at OHSU is different and follows different rules by this point. Please guys use your head here.
@ yes, I should probably have worded it better: the mother also has genes for blue eyes, however she might have brown eyes, since it's a dominant trait
Yup, that's why they're doing the lawsuit, because the donor, as a doctor, is well aware of the fact they might have seriously fucked up the gene pool, the next generations will have to everyone they date to avoid inbreeding
@@Happy-xi9hl sadly, no. Look up the story of the Habsburgs, they married into so many royal families that after a few generations inbreeding was unavoidable because everyone had blood ties spanning 1, 2, 3 generations back, and genetic problems started to appear. While in this current generation it's not that problematic, the problem is that these donor children were born all in the same region, as such, even if some move away and the like, the probability of most of their grandchildren staying around long enough to marry into the community is not that wild, and they could end with someone who's way too close gene-wise. Not only that but if this happened in the first place, there could be even more children in the future born from this unregulated moves, limiting the gene variations even more (let's say you have just 2 donors who had 20 children each, each child has 2 children, that means there's 80 children in the same area who are related and might no know it, now those grandchildren have children, and suddenly you have 160 people who are relatively close related without knowing. While the probability is low, not knowing the exact number and who was affected means you could indeed end up blindly marrying into the family). This means that 4 generations from now on, and without knowing the exact number of how many donations were manipulated, you could end with 4, 5, 6, maybe even more family lines crossing each other way too closely. The problem is not just the fact that there's too many of them, but also the fact that there's probably a looot more people in the same situation without knowing.
in some religions (if i'm not mistaken correct me if i'm wrong), they have laws that all the kids _even the step ones who don't share his genes, so naturally the halves too_ will have some share to his inheritance. This case became even more aggravating if you consider this fact. Geez, corporates -_-
I can't adopt a cat without several government agencies tracking the transaction. However, I can purchase potential humans from a sperm bank, with impunity, and there is no oversight. Wtf???
It's great that they all turned out to be seemingly well-adjusted humans, because can you imagine the terror Bryce would have felt if all of a sudden these 14+ strangers showed up calling him dad and wanting to bond more personally with him??
@sofia excuse you what about wanting to bond with your bio dad means your not well adjusted, they would have every right to want to know and bond with their bio dad
One positive of it is that they all had parents that absolutely wanted to have children. They jumped through lots of hoops to do it and this removed people who would have been resentful at their children for being unwanted. It's also much less likely that they grew up in poverty, since in America you have to pay for donor insemination.
This happened to my friend, but they found out the fertility doctor is their sperm donor. He lied about using other sperm and used his instead. It’s an ongoing case here in Texas. For some bizarre reason he still has his medical license and is still practicing medicine.
@@papasscooperiaworker3649 apparently a lot of it back wasn't at all regulated and it was common practise for doctors to donate their own. And they commonly did to get more people in thus make more money as apparently sperm donating wasn't as common as now It is "rare" that it happens in the extent the way it has in these three cases but obviously can happen
Ikr I thought just shows the level of awesomeness they all are. As much its ease for us as outsiders to say that's right to support him. I think it must be completely different when your in the situation with all of the emotions.
Okay I get it now. He was promised 5, got wayyyyy more, in the same nearby area, huge risk of marrying a half sibling and not knowing it, almost,, polluting the gene pool of a single local area. Oof. Yep. Props to Bryce and all these kids for looking into this Edit: Sure, let’s say they marry each other and there’s no inbreeding effects for the first one or two generations. What happens to generation five or six? Or ten? A perplexing and untraceable string of severe birth defects within a single local area, seeing as people are most likely to marry people who live nearby. Concerned parents couldn’t really figure it out until the doctors found out it was a genetic problem, and then the parents did a DNA test and found out what was up, and by then it would be too late. This gang of kids has saved future generations a LOT of unnecessary suffering, difficulty in life, healthcare money and more by discovering this problem before its consequences had a chance to reveal themselves.
Them marrying each other isn’t such a big problem though. The chances of genetic mutation due to inbreeding is low, especially first generation inbreeding. You usually won’t see effect until multiple generations of inbreeding in. The royal family had lots of inbreeding as a way to keep the royal line “pure”. Queen Victoria and Prince Albert were first cousins. You don’t see any genetic mutations in them. The only royal family I know that really had any genetic mutations due to inbreeding was the German royal family. But that’s because they inbred like CRAZY.
That makes no sense, "promised 5 if he donates" ? that is not a thing, no sperm bank ever would tell you a quota for how many you are going to sire, they give you money for the donation and thats it, you do not get a say after you donate. This is desperate and pathetic....
@@destroyidiots7191 The issue isn’t of like, personal responsibility like “ohhh but I only wanted 5,” it’s like if you donated me a hammer and I killed someone with it. You’re not mad at me because I misused something that YOU donated, cus it’s not even yours anymore. You’re just upset with me for using it so irresponsibly. You gave me the hammer in good faith that I’d build a house or something. Producing so many children with the same genes in the same area, where they could so easily marry each other and make inbred and unhealthy children and not know why, is extremely irresponsible on the part of the sperm bank.
Hi! I'm also donor conceived, with 25+ known half-siblings, and more still being discovered. To date I remain the oldest sister, with one older brother, but here's the weird thing: the vast majority of us are musicians, performers or stage techies. We know for a fact that we all share this attribute with our donor, as well. I love my siblings. I'd jump in front of a train for any one of them. They didn't replace my family - they just added to it, in a beautiful way. They're my bonus family, and I adore them all.
That's cool, and points to the good stuff about this process. If I were a geneticist I would be all over these kinds of details, researching the patterns, etc.
@@MissKitteeney Agreed! We all find it fascinating about each other. I'm an opera singer, and I discovered that one of my sisters actually had a line from one of my favourite operas as a tattoo! Every time we discover a new sibling (once the shock value wears off for them, of course) we start asking about this stuff, because the pattern continues to hold true - SO many performers, musicians, or stage-adjacent people in our family!
I wrote my college application essay based off this video. The topic was “write about something that fascinates you.” Cited it and everything, sent it off.. still one of my best essays!
@@cxd2503 ahha I already knew I was going to community college but I got into the school I applied to with this essay! Risky move but I get your point either way😅
@@ericktellez7632 That could be because of the moms. I do think they're all quite solidly good-looking. Like I think they're all around 7-8 and Madi is a 9.
A cousin would be the child of the brother or sister of your own parent. These are half brothers and sisters because half of each of them is the SAME parent. It is the same relationship as you would have if one of your parents remarried and had more children from the next marriage.
At first i was like, well what's the big deal? Why a lawsuit? But this makes complete sense. A city like Portland really isn't that big, and just the idea of these siblings having interacted with one another is pretty likely. Ethically and morally, this is completely fucked up.
And this is just one case in one city. There are many like it elsewhere in the US and they are coming forward as well although I have not seen lawsuits with the case I know. Not yet anyway.
I ain't no professional but like i know mixing sibling genes isn't good. I know it's different because they got genes from different mothers but (i am just boldly assuming this) Doesn't that increase the chances of the same genes mixing?
The lawsuit would make sense even if there wasn't that concern. The company lied to him and he made his decision based on that lie. That alone justifies it.
You still have 25 more siblings in asia, 33 siblings in middle east, 78 siblings in africa, and 249 scattered around the world. You are one big happy family.
@@randallnapier8055 a shot? Bruh this is a UA-cam comment section. At this point, you might as well try to shoot the sun with a water gun while on earth.
I'm the oldest of three girls. My mom confused my half sister picture (dad's and stepmom's) for her own daughter the middle sister. They often look alike when they were younger.
The problem with this is that if u have a child and there is a recessive genetic disease there is a high chance of your kid having the full blown disease. That's scary
The girl in the beginning tho... Girl: "I'm gonna find out so why don't you just tell me." Mom: "You're a donor child. You're gonna go look for your family now aren't you?" Girl: "Yesn't"
tbh that made me really sad for the girl, you can just kind of infer a lot of her relationship with her mother from that interaction. Its fucked up her mom wouldn't tell her and its double fucked up she just immediately threw it in her face for wanting to know.
Imagine marrying somebody and deciding to have children, but when you do, the children have all sorts of deformities and health problems. You go to the doctor and he tells you it’s because you and your spouse are actually half-siblings with the same donor dad.
@@kaorumugen991 yup, it takes several generations to start getting weird issues if you have diverse stock to begin with. If there's a severe condition for which the donor is a carrier, which is unlikely on account of the screening, there's a 50% chance each donor child will carry that condition, making a 25% chance of a child of two donor children receiving the fickle finger of fate.
I can understand why he wouldn’t wanna get attached, I can definitely see how it can be too overwhelming for sure. Having over a dozen new relationships would be insane.
@Kaleb Um, parents who divorce ARE NOT selfish people. Most parents divorce due to the fact there in a abusive relationship or a parent is sexually abusing the child and etc. So many parents divorce for different reasons so how about you re-phrase that.
@Kaleb Sorry but I was actually happy when my parents split, they were always arguing, and it put a lot on me mentally when they were still together. It's much better now that they are separated and have found better partners. What you are saying is absolutely incorrect.
@Kaleb Yes I'm aged now, but was young when my parents split. I think you are being way to exaggerated with the whole serial killer thing cause that depends on the household and how they are brought up. My mother was good natured and very well as a single parent. Yes it may be different where you are from, I get that point of view, but it is different for everyone. You can't stay together if you are always arguing and carrying on, it actually effects the child way more then splitting up. (Custody is a huge thing though so I'm very lucky that It worked out well.) I do not think that its selfish on my behalf.
Imagine walking into one of this sibling reunions to meet you half siblings and you see that one of the girls is someone you hooked up with. That’s a real bruh moment right there
There is a case in The Netherlands where a doctor himself spunked in all the tubes resulting in more than 170 siblings spread all across the country. Makes this case look like nothing in comparison. So crazy!
@@ariyaikhsan1642 Yeah, but the number of kids varies greatly depending on article. anything from 17-200. It might even be more since not everyone has done DNA tests. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47907847
That true! He was the doctor who saved me and my moms life. I was brought in to the world 3 motnhs early to safe my moms life. He even put his holiday on hold to operate on my mom and came to check on her in the early morning with his family waiting in te car to drive to Spain for a vacation. Crazy to think of that. He was an amazingly kind and passionate man who wanted to help as much people as he could , because of the lack of sperm donors available. Took his job a bit to far to nicely put it. 😂😂😂
Imagine getting married and having children with a sibling and not know they were your sibling because of this now you have a child with birth defects and other possible issues that should've never come up but because of the lack of regulation on sperm donations
You do realise for a child to have birth defects through inbreeding, the child parents/grandparents/great grandparents have to be in an incestuous relationship/family. It happens over several generations before any actual defects start to occur.
This is so freaking bad. In a long term, if they can't trace who are their donor-sibling, they might ended up married each other without knowing. Genetic disease might become more and more common since there will be less genetic variability. This is why unstandardized sperm donor procedure is bad.
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 if you can find a guy who can produce 17 offspring (like what happen in this video) through one night stand, please let me know. That guy must be a giga chad with zero sense of reponsibility.
There was also a study that followed couples that met & found out later they were siblings. Unfortunately they felt as though they had a deep connection and found it nearly impossible to separate as lovers.
Unfortunately if you look into his medical practice, Dr. Bryce Cleary discriminated against a trans patient and repeatedly lied to her about the medical transitioning process to try to get her back in the closet. He also doesn't believe that adults can have ADHD so he refuses to treat them. He's pretty unpopular in his community. Not very ethical.
@@everythingisfine9988 lol....well if that doesn't make you think! Although, maybe she was one of the original 5 they claimed could be conceived from his samples....🤷
if this video was made by a certain Sunday night show in the Philippines, it would be divided up to 3 episodes with a really uninteresting cliffhanger.
@@sth469 Dude was the Emperor of Mongolia. During the Mongolian Golden Age they conquered over 33% of the world. And Gengis Khan was known for having more then 1000 Kids which at that time was an entire village. They say that 1% of the world are descended of Gengis Khans bloodline.
I just appreciate how respectful all of the siblings turned out to be, regardless of their feelings and beliefs. Such an unfortunate situation but def better because of the sweet people involved.
My father is donor conceived. I took a ancestry tests. I found my father has 18 sibling. I’ve been talking to them over zoom. And they have get togethers. No lie. All from Stafford universities hospital in the late 70’s. No records exist of the donor anymore.
Ngl being one of those siblings sounds kinda exiting, imagine suddendly getting to know a whole group of other people from all backrounds you are bound to genetically, sounds like a rad friend group to me
Damn, never thought it’d be a possibility that in the distant future peope have to share their DNA in their Tinder profiles just so they don’t accidentally date/mate with an unknown relatives and avoid genetic complications for their next gen. Next episode of Black Mirror, perhaps?
Even before Black Mirror, there is some sci-fi book(Soviet I think) where people in the future have to pass genetic compatibility test for marriage to prevent birth of children with defects. And in the book, protagonist even resorts to time-travel to alter the past at the point, where his lover got bad genes.
Actually it already exist. If I remember well, in Iceland, because there isn't a lot of inhabitants, there is an app where you put your family info (etc) that will calculate the degree of similarities with other people. Like that, you can verify that the people you meet/date isn't from your same family or is enough far away genetic wise to be able to have a baby that won't have health problem caused by similar genes. (sorry for my english). It's quite a common problem in every single population with "not enough" inhabitants or in islands
@@Inqtive It's a bit different subject, as it doesn't touch genetic damage from ancestors, but talks about compatibility between "specialists" - humans, that have their body and mind altered for certain profession, when it comes to marrying and having children, even if parents aren't specialised in same profession. Explanation in book is believable from real-world perspective, so it could be our actual future.
with 17 of them in the Greater Portland area, i guess it's just lucky that none of them accidentally hooked up with another one of them before they found this out....
I'm Irish too. Maybe it's an Irish thing but I met about 6 or 7 aunts or uncles that I hadn't seen since I was 5 years old, many, many years later, and my eyes teared up. I didn't recognize any of them. I felt like I was home and that I hadn't been home in many, many years. I thought it would be awkward, and for the first 3 minutes I didn't feel any awkwardness, just made some light jokes and things felt normal. "Hi, I believe you are my uncle?" I'd smile and shake their hand. After a few minutes, and after I had met 3 of my uncles and 2 or 3 of my aunts, all within the first 5 minutes, I had to hold back my tears because of the feeling of home. I didn't want them to see me cry and I didn't let them. It got harder and harder until tears came out of my eyes, but my face had a smile, my voice didn't shake, and I did not let my mouth frown, although I wanted to cry from how whole I felt. My father told me that my uncles told him that my aunts saw the tears in my eyes pouring out, and that they hid their tears, but went to the back of the house and hugged my uncles and they let their tears out and cried while they hugged my uncles. I assume they probably felt like they had found their long lost nephew. I miss my aunts and uncles badly and it would be nice to move near them and near my father and mother. I am busy with life, but one day. Family is one of my favorite gifts of life.
@@truthkindahurtsloveyalltho6272 everybody have the same mom and dad? In the US there are a lot of broken families so the sibling count can get up there with same dad different mom and same mom different dad.
As a guy i understand he did this years ago and was told just 5 but fast forward to now he has way more than just 5 and it's on going even worse is the OHSU they wanna hide but the things your trying to hide are living breathing human being who are more than likely to speak out and connect the dots plus i find it ironic one of the lawyers is thr bryce guy actual kid its some karma if i ever did see it 😬😬😬
I believe people need to discuss personal, financial, professional, emotional and cultural things with their partner before they marry. Topics like adoption, IVF conception, physical challenges dealing with mental health/ addiction / financial issues will be discussed and talked out before getting married. So if someone found out they married their genetic "sibling", then it is on them. THis could happen if the father was a player or kids were given up for adoption. One does not need only IVF kids to worry about marrying their genetic sibling. TO me this is just a money grab case.
@@indirage Just because you hold these beliefs does bot mean that everyone will. Don’t get me wrong, I’m also a big advocate of gene testing. But you have to understand that it is a relatively new technology, and an even newer commercial product, so it has yet to permeate into human culture
That's unlikely unless you live in a smaller state even then it seems improbable because that's still a 100/100,000+ and that's assuming there's 100 people nearby that share the same biological father in a small state.
Poor: I dont have enouh money Rich: Use yoir money wisely, use it in the stock market When the poor people uses the stock market to get rich while the rich looses money Rich: Pikachu Face
@@optimusmikey Not doing so promotes risky inbreedingnin areas with low genetic diversity or an overall small population. It also would encourage deregulated sperm donation, which means low quality seen and potential genetic diseases.
And then also finding out that one of them is extremely overbearing. She has no desire or even wants to talk or find out anything about her dad. Until she finds out about the five point something million dollar lawsuit. And it's that point she wants to be all up on the TV and be the one that's talkin all the time. Even at the dinner you can see she's like the only one talking. And it's because she's one of those terrible Karen type people I guarantee you
The young Dr. Intern should have considered that before donating. He knew. He signed a contract before donating his sperm. Its spelled out in that contract.. .
They all seem so intelligent that these doctors must've thought his DNA contained good material for smart children... They all seem like such good people too...
This was easy to see coming after working in a lab at a prominent med school in the late 1990s, where male students were paid large amounts to donate “Ivy league” sperm. There were ads on flyers around campus and in every edition of the school paper. One student I knew was dubbed a super donor, as he had high sperm counts, sought after features, and an impressive resume. I would not be surprised in the least to find out that he has thousands of biological children. I believe he was paid $50-$100 for each donation, which allowed him to purchase a condo while in graduate school.
usually donor kids are really really wanted by their parents, assisted fertility can be a very long and painful and expensive process. so they most likely got a lot of love and attention and care while growing up.
Yoooooo u took da words rite out my mouth...dats all I kept sayn....no matter wat woman got ahold of dis sperm dey still all damn near look alike....crazy!!!
Imagine having to face the fact that you could end marrying/living together and having kids with your half siblings who are conceived thru botched-up sperm donation practices many decades ago. Then, their kids suffer from genetic diseases that no parents would ever want to see and endure for the rest of their lives.
Some of that is around in smaller scales by undocumented adoptions and marriage out of wedlock. My boyfriend's family has a lot adoption, and I have no idea who the parents were of one of my grandmothers, but I know there was some indigenous guy who was likely the dad, making it so I'm related in some way to the people who were living hundreds of years ago where I now live. But who knows how many people may be related, especially where my French side was known for having 8-13 biological kids just from two parents. My grandpa grew up with 11 siblings. But if you go back far enough, I guess we'd all be related somehow, it's just how careful to be, and what the risks may be, and there certainly are risks.
I just found out this happened to me. 18 or so siblings across 3 or 4 states. Found out through using 23 & me. It’s insane the short sightedness of using 1 man’s donation so many times.
@@famousbowl9926 Tall and educated too, preferably white and blue or green eyes are probably a plus. Those are the ones who probably make the most money.
This is how random strangers that fall in love find out they're related. It's so irresponsible. Imagine if a couple didn't even know and decided to have a child, there would be so many complications.
@@spiceyfrenchtoast9421 That's the point of the suit. He said for there to only be 5. Even in the same town, there would have been a low chance of anything like this happening. This guy has 20 kids that grew up in the same town... he probably actually has 100 or 200 kids in total, and if they were this irresponsible with 20 doses, imagine 10x the amount
@@blackalwayspink hi, I’m adopted. I feel for these people. Both my parents were afraid I would abandon them. It’s a parents feelings but I assured them I will always be their daughter and I would never abandon them❤️
12:47 let's appreciate the fact that the cameraman understand how delicious fried rice is. he kept looking on the food for no less than 9 seconds in total.
My grandmother had sixteen children. I have cousins all over the state. I don’t even know a quarter of them. I was on a dating site a few years ago and one of my cousins came up as a recommended dating partner. 😱 Welcome to Arkansas!
I'm really worried because my grandpa had 13 siblings and and my dad doesn't know any of his cousins from them. I live in a area with 500,000 people (Everyone knows everyone somehow) and those relatives all have a different last name to mine and there's still a really big chance they still live in my area. The idea of not knowing if I come across or even date a second or third cousin really scares me
I'm glad for DNA testing which I got. I'm not a donor child. My Dad is one of the worst creeps and he should be in jail. When my half sister and brother, who are full siblings, found out about me they were surprised they were also upset and cut off all contact with our Dad. Who knows if we have more siblings. I have a lot of cousins who I don't know ten of which live in the same city that I do. I often wonder if in the past that I hooked up with relatives without knowing it.
Can you imagine meeting someone, falling in love, getting married, having babies and your child is born with birth defects because of indirect, accidental inbreeding. How awful!
It usually requires several generarions of inbreeding for serious defects. Even half siblings producing children would likely only result in fairly minor genetic issues, altho the risk of a genetic condition/disease is increased. Full siblings would obviously be worse.
I’m a donor child, and I already know of two half siblings. This seriously makes me wonder how many more siblings I have! I never imagined having more than 5-7.
This is absolutely wild, imagine deciding to do this in your 20s under the assumption that you're just going to help out a couple of families and then finding out 30 years later you have enough biological children to run a football team.
Haha lol its messed up
And considering he's a doctor, he's definitely aware of how much they have fucked up the regional gene pool by pulling this crap, the fact that his grandsons will have to get dna tests regularly says a lot
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I see what yall mean that makes sense.
@@dog_city it matters because genetics deseases can happen if you mix similar genetic material, if there are that much siblings, so close to each other without knowing. The offspring may meet each other and get together, and have other children who can be born with genetic problems without knowing it could have been avoided. And in a more unlikely setting incest can happen.
I think it’s neat that his donor children are on his side for the lawsuit and understand his point of view. A lot of them seem to have gained strong friendships too.
I mean the guy did nothing wrong, it would be totally unreasonable to blame him for anything. It was the organization that mishandled everything.
They're all adults, which is good. There's no kid that suddenly feel like they want to have a dad. instead its adults that know how to make coherent decisions.
@@Eralen00 I doubt anyone would do that (though you never know), but a lot of people would resent the lawsuit due to its nature. Just look at all the people arguing against abortion by going “I was an unplanned pregnancy/the result of rape/a child with congenital abnormalities and my mother could have aborted me, but if she had I wouldn’t be here.” Like the idea of some stranger advocating for the right to exercise one’s reproductive freedom is almost a personal attack to them, because they know it could easily have been them. It’s similar in this case. It’s essentially a lawsuit that argues some of these people should not have been born. It’s not a pov I share or even a reaction that I really get, but it’s not a given that everyone would be able to look at it logically, without their emotions getting in the way. In that sense it is commendable.
@@EIizabethGrace he isn't "advocating for the right to exercise one's reproductive freedom" doe, he's advocating for some control in these clinics, he isn't saying "these people should never have been born", he's saying "these people shouldn't have been born, using my genetic material, as that can cause inbreeding, due to the carelessness and money-grubbing of a clinic", if these clinics had some morals (yeh a company with morals kekw), or some control, these people's mothers would still have gone to these clinics, and these people would still have been born, just not all from the same father/genetic material, in a relatively small area, where they can meet, and unknowingly inbreed...
@@hehexd5317 I guess it all comes down to how you view the nature human life in that sense, I guess. Any combination of eggs and sperm even involving the same people would technically be unique, so the child that would have been born of an entirely different donation would arguaby not be them. Which means the lawsuit would techinically, as one of them actually mentioned, be against their existence. It isn't irrational to think that.
The point is that, if you look past that first, instinctively off-putting factor, the subject of the lawsuit is actually the bio father, but even more so it's largely impersonal. It's about medical practice, biology, social issues, ethics and a bunch of other stuff going well beyond the existence of these kids as anything more than objects of the same. So I agree with you. I'm just saying not everyone really thinks that way, in my experience. Some people would prioritize the value-based notions above the rational ones and likely come to a conclusion along the lines of 'I see what's going on (or not, depending on how much they at least looked at it from a different perspective), but I can't support a lawsuit that states I shouldn't be here.' Personally, it doesn't sound very constructive, but it's not a given that someone would not think like the people in this video. Just wanted to point that out.
Imagine if you accidentally married your own sibling without you knowing about it, and then your offspring have a genetic disabilities.
that's the reason why Bryce suing the clinic.
lmao reminds me of that one House M.D. episode
That episode was crazy and really sad
This is why people shouldn't participate in these kinds of clinics, anyway. These are the messed up incidents that happen when we mess with nature. There's nothing wrong with adoption if you're infertile or single, so many kids conceived naturally that don't have homes. There's no need for these absurd practices.
@@ashtastical2622 i do agree that adopting is better. i even plan to adopt. but we all, no matter how we’re born or who our legal parents are, need regulations.
its just sad for the kids created
Dude's genes were really dominant. A majority of the siblings all have the exact same eye and nose shapes.
The genes do be T-posing to *ASSERT DOMINANCE*
Like Jon Arryn would say: “The seed is strong”
Their hair color is also the same, brunette
@meme is my life No, some guys have weak genes compared to the females they have kids with, so the kids usually inherit from the mom in that case. This is obviously not the case here.
@@christie7201 Wtf does it mean to have weak genes? You get 50% from your father and 50% from your mother...
"In light of privacy concerns, we cannot comment on this matter"
Ohhh so NOOOOOW we follow rules eh?
That’s why the medical industry is corrupt they keep it under wrap through these bs HIPPA LAWS
In light of shareholder concerns...
You need to remember this happened 30 years ago..... im sure the ENTIRE staff at OHSU is different and follows different rules by this point. Please guys use your head here.
@@auroramothergoddess HIPAA*
After they wouldn't tell Mr. Cleary anything. They won't speak to the press because of privacy issues, but not him either?
Sperm donor: Blue eyes
17 people: Copy and paste.
It’s a mutation, a very groovy mutation.
It's a recessive trait, so the their mothers likely also have it
@@TheEmeraldLady It's revessuve alright, but still hase a possibility of showing up.
@ yes, I should probably have worded it better: the mother also has genes for blue eyes, however she might have brown eyes, since it's a dominant trait
@@clearcontentment3695 I understooe that reference
This is going to get even messier when their kids start having kids.
@@Bettie_Rage True
Yup, that's why they're doing the lawsuit, because the donor, as a doctor, is well aware of the fact they might have seriously fucked up the gene pool, the next generations will have to everyone they date to avoid inbreeding
🥴
@@Kirayni Won't they be far apart (genetically) that it won't have much effect? Just asking
@@Happy-xi9hl sadly, no. Look up the story of the Habsburgs, they married into so many royal families that after a few generations inbreeding was unavoidable because everyone had blood ties spanning 1, 2, 3 generations back, and genetic problems started to appear. While in this current generation it's not that problematic, the problem is that these donor children were born all in the same region, as such, even if some move away and the like, the probability of most of their grandchildren staying around long enough to marry into the community is not that wild, and they could end with someone who's way too close gene-wise. Not only that but if this happened in the first place, there could be even more children in the future born from this unregulated moves, limiting the gene variations even more (let's say you have just 2 donors who had 20 children each, each child has 2 children, that means there's 80 children in the same area who are related and might no know it, now those grandchildren have children, and suddenly you have 160 people who are relatively close related without knowing. While the probability is low, not knowing the exact number and who was affected means you could indeed end up blindly marrying into the family). This means that 4 generations from now on, and without knowing the exact number of how many donations were manipulated, you could end with 4, 5, 6, maybe even more family lines crossing each other way too closely. The problem is not just the fact that there's too many of them, but also the fact that there's probably a looot more people in the same situation without knowing.
He has four kids and FIVE stepkids? JEEZ. Then imagine hearing you have 14+ additional biological children you didn’t know existed.
in some religions (if i'm not mistaken correct me if i'm wrong), they have laws that all the kids _even the step ones who don't share his genes, so naturally the halves too_ will have some share to his inheritance. This case became even more aggravating if you consider this fact. Geez, corporates -_-
Imagine the one with 150 kids, and then what if those kids never knew about their half siblings and accidentally marry one of them.
Pdnim!!!🤣
AYY PD
He commands a private ARMY!
"In light of privacy concerns, OHSU won't comment on this matter."
Is the corporate way of saying 'we fucked up BAD'
lol Right! It's not like they can deny the DNA evidence. They're screwed.
Surely you mean corporate, not cooperate.
@@morenawicce 👍
This is what happens when you privatise the health service. They don't actually care about their customers, it's all about the profits.
@@thetimelapseguy8 This isn't something exclusive to the United States, but go off, I guess.
I can't adopt a cat without several government agencies tracking the transaction. However, I can purchase potential humans from a sperm bank, with impunity, and there is no oversight. Wtf???
exactly.!!!!!
People care more about animals than they do humans. It’s a sick world
@@Chris-nt9lk I mean look at the left. They want animal rights but are for abortion
@@alvinlin8140 you do realize animals have abortions too, right?
That's because the gov uses cats to spy on you
"We have a new sibling every six months"
Sims 4: pathetic
Florida man for the win
This gave me 100 baby challenge vibes
Cody from the Onion article: "amateurs"
😂😅
Imagine the dude just donated for a hit of crack then you got all these kids Da da. Daddy daddy daddy
It's great that they all turned out to be seemingly well-adjusted humans, because can you imagine the terror Bryce would have felt if all of a sudden these 14+ strangers showed up calling him dad and wanting to bond more personally with him??
Well their bio-dad is a doctor, and each if them were raised by the kinds of families that could afford invitro in the 80s.
We’re not hearing from the not well adjusted siblings… cue ominous music
@sofia excuse you what about wanting to bond with your bio dad means your not well adjusted, they would have every right to want to know and bond with their bio dad
One positive of it is that they all had parents that absolutely wanted to have children. They jumped through lots of hoops to do it and this removed people who would have been resentful at their children for being unwanted.
It's also much less likely that they grew up in poverty, since in America you have to pay for donor insemination.
ah, that is another problem with this situation
This happened to my friend, but they found out the fertility doctor is their sperm donor. He lied about using other sperm and used his instead. It’s an ongoing case here in Texas. For some bizarre reason he still has his medical license and is still practicing medicine.
Jesus Christ
Yooo seen that
This sounds like an episode from Law and Order SVU. How horrible
can you let me know how the case goes?
@@papasscooperiaworker3649 apparently a lot of it back wasn't at all regulated and it was common practise for doctors to donate their own. And they commonly did to get more people in thus make more money as apparently sperm donating wasn't as common as now
It is "rare" that it happens in the extent the way it has in these three cases but obviously can happen
The fact they they're all cool with each other and support Bryce without asking anything of him is so refreshing.
Ikr I thought just shows the level of awesomeness they all are. As much its ease for us as outsiders to say that's right to support him. I think it must be completely different when your in the situation with all of the emotions.
Yall just want to be deadbeat dads
@@annabelconstantine1241 He was a sperm donor !! !! !! !! what obligation did he have to the kids?
@@annabelconstantine1241 So, a single mother or father issues? 😆
Yall just wanna be deadbeat dads
Okay I get it now. He was promised 5, got wayyyyy more, in the same nearby area, huge risk of marrying a half sibling and not knowing it, almost,, polluting the gene pool of a single local area. Oof. Yep. Props to Bryce and all these kids for looking into this
Edit: Sure, let’s say they marry each other and there’s no inbreeding effects for the first one or two generations. What happens to generation five or six? Or ten? A perplexing and untraceable string of severe birth defects within a single local area, seeing as people are most likely to marry people who live nearby.
Concerned parents couldn’t really figure it out until the doctors found out it was a genetic problem, and then the parents did a DNA test and found out what was up, and by then it would be too late. This gang of kids has saved future generations a LOT of unnecessary suffering, difficulty in life, healthcare money and more by discovering this problem before its consequences had a chance to reveal themselves.
THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE
Them marrying each other isn’t such a big problem though. The chances of genetic mutation due to inbreeding is low, especially first generation inbreeding. You usually won’t see effect until multiple generations of inbreeding in. The royal family had lots of inbreeding as a way to keep the royal line “pure”. Queen Victoria and Prince Albert were first cousins. You don’t see any genetic mutations in them. The only royal family I know that really had any genetic mutations due to inbreeding was the German royal family. But that’s because they inbred like CRAZY.
That makes no sense, "promised 5 if he donates" ? that is not a thing, no sperm bank ever would tell you a quota for how many you are going to sire, they give you money for the donation and thats it, you do not get a say after you donate. This is desperate and pathetic....
@@destroyidiots7191 The issue isn’t of like, personal responsibility like “ohhh but I only wanted 5,”
it’s like if you donated me a hammer and I killed someone with it. You’re not mad at me because I misused something that YOU donated, cus it’s not even yours anymore. You’re just upset with me for using it so irresponsibly. You gave me the hammer in good faith that I’d build a house or something.
Producing so many children with the same genes in the same area, where they could so easily marry each other and make inbred and unhealthy children and not know why, is extremely irresponsible on the part of the sperm bank.
@@rachelcookie321 not you excusing inbreeding
By year 2200 we’re gonna be like:
-“Son, we all came from one person”
-“God?”
-“Nope, Bryce”
@Kaleb lol one way to put it
Our lord and savior bryce,wait why do you have an extra hand
@@sailorgaijin8838 God*
@@jiro2358 Bryce*
@@ayesteriia I Stan dekubaku 🤓🤓
I am also donor conceived and I have 42 known siblings and are still finding more. If he wins this lawsuit there are sure to be a flood to follow!
Can't imagine waking up one day and figuring out you have 50 siblings
Damm have you accidentally hooked up with your brother?
Just hope that you're never held financially responsible for 42 children....
Oh my God
Damn start ur own political party now
They could totally make a reality show about this. TLC is loving this rn.
yes i would watch these show
I would tune in from time to time lol
@@pikapool8675 there was a mtv show about 15 siblings of a sperm donor meeting called generation cyro
We got 44 and counting from my donor. The stories we have are insane and we keep finding more. Found triplets a few months ago 😂
ua-cam.com/video/yGAktL45XNQ/v-deo.html
Hi! I'm also donor conceived, with 25+ known half-siblings, and more still being discovered. To date I remain the oldest sister, with one older brother, but here's the weird thing: the vast majority of us are musicians, performers or stage techies. We know for a fact that we all share this attribute with our donor, as well.
I love my siblings. I'd jump in front of a train for any one of them. They didn't replace my family - they just added to it, in a beautiful way. They're my bonus family, and I adore them all.
Based on your last name and your mention of 'musician', are you in any way related to the celebrated violinist Hillary Hahn?
That's cool, and points to the good stuff about this process. If I were a geneticist I would be all over these kinds of details, researching the patterns, etc.
@@ignOxy Alas, not! I'm an opera singer, and I do desperately wish I could play violin!
@@MissKitteeney Agreed! We all find it fascinating about each other. I'm an opera singer, and I discovered that one of my sisters actually had a line from one of my favourite operas as a tattoo! Every time we discover a new sibling (once the shock value wears off for them, of course) we start asking about this stuff, because the pattern continues to hold true - SO many performers, musicians, or stage-adjacent people in our family!
I'm curious, if you don't mind. Why and how would you go about looking for a sperm donor? Especially why? Again, if you don't mind.
I wrote my college application essay based off this video. The topic was “write about something that fascinates you.” Cited it and everything, sent it off.. still one of my best essays!
Bro I wish u luck but writing about this on ur college app isn’t a smart move
@@cxd2503 ahha I already knew I was going to community college but I got into the school I applied to with this essay! Risky move but I get your point either way😅
nice pfp
@@cam-lg2xy oh wow, congrats! I would accept but defer enrollment and still do community college in the meantime
@@TheNinjapancake14 yup community College is the way to go
I hope he wins this lawsuit. There's no way any of this is fair. He's got good genes tho, damn.
Not really, they are not 10/10
I say 7/10.
How is this not fair?
@@ericktellez7632 he's a doctor so clearly there are other things people value
@@ericktellez7632 That could be because of the moms. I do think they're all quite solidly good-looking. Like I think they're all around 7-8 and Madi is a 9.
When all of your unknown 17 kids suddenly turn up on your doorstep while you are drinking beer and playing World Of Warcraft
.....and you can't pause the game cause you're about to die.
😂😂😂
🤣🤣 lmao!
this concept needs to be a show lol!
We’re gonna need a bigger boat!
My man's on his way to become the Genghis Khan of the west.
Ghengis Khan: Pacifist Route
at the very least Oregon... how hard can that be?
Ghengis Khan got 2000 wifes lol
Genghis Khan: West World DLC
@@xoltronvox6703 Genghis Khan : Alabama expansion pack
I remember on reddit I read a story about how somebody had a child with their sibling and didn't know because they were donors. Shits crazy
Holy crap that's insane
Source?
@@lizxu322 reddit
I need the source plz
@@dantnad why?
Imagine being afraid to ask girl out...because maybe she is your cousin.
Just another day in Alabama
That's just living in the South as part of one of the old families.
screw it just move to Alabama
A cousin would be the child of the brother or sister of your own parent. These are half brothers and sisters because half of each of them is the SAME parent. It is the same relationship as you would have if one of your parents remarried and had more children from the next marriage.
ey my parents are cousins what's the probmftjklh dadada
Kinda scary how many people in the comments have had the same experience and have 30+ siblings...
Yeah...
I have a hard time believing they're real. How can there be so many people like this?!!
Wow.
wicked and cursed.
Totally scary
large family reunions for sure...
At first i was like, well what's the big deal? Why a lawsuit? But this makes complete sense.
A city like Portland really isn't that big, and just the idea of these siblings having interacted with one another is pretty likely.
Ethically and morally, this is completely fucked up.
And this is just one case in one city. There are many like it elsewhere in the US and they are coming forward as well although I have not seen lawsuits with the case I know. Not yet anyway.
I ain't no professional but like i know mixing sibling genes isn't good.
I know it's different because they got genes from different mothers but (i am just boldly assuming this)
Doesn't that increase the chances of the same genes mixing?
@@dankovac1609 yes
@@dankovac1609 yes, too much of mixing sibling genes(incest) could result to birth defect child(disabled).
The lawsuit would make sense even if there wasn't that concern. The company lied to him and he made his decision based on that lie. That alone justifies it.
You still have 25 more siblings in asia, 33 siblings in middle east, 78 siblings in africa, and 249 scattered around the world. You are one big happy family.
😂😂😂
Nightmare
blue eyes. check
big straight teeth. check
future doctor. check
kinda sketchy to be chosing how your kid would look like.
how tf are you verified
Gattaca
@@user400 he paid for it🤣 jk.. I want to know too
I will be going for a 6 ft+ 120iq+ nordic chad sperm donor
Why. Tons of people would do this if they could afford it.
I used to wonder why there are such strict regulations in place here in Australia that govern the practice of sperm donation - this video says it all.
Yes I will marry you
@@randallnapier8055 bonk
@@GrandmasterDinnerRoll hey ..worth a shot
@@randallnapier8055 a shot? Bruh this is a UA-cam comment section. At this point, you might as well try to shoot the sun with a water gun while on earth.
@@randallnapier8055 😆😆
the fact that they all look related is so scary because ive never seen siblings who look like each other so much, let alone half-siblings
They don't look that alike lol. Definitely not bizarrely so.
Children generaly get a little more genes from the mother than the father, and look a little more like the father than the mother.
@@magical11 that's what I thought to.
I'm the oldest of three girls. My mom confused my half sister picture (dad's and stepmom's) for her own daughter the middle sister. They often look alike when they were younger.
@@magical11 Exactly they just wanted to say something lol
What scares me is that you could have a possibility of marrying a person who might be one of your half siblings..
Not even that. If you have a kid with that person, there's a big chance that the baby has a degenerative problem...
@@subconsciente5257 that isnt true, its a very low chance with an increased chance over generations
@@ReeceyW I mean yeah. But sooner or later it will be a big problem when it really shouldn't
@@subconsciente5257 yeah 100% but it isnt an immediate issue which kinda makes it worse if you think about it
@@ReeceyW Just imagine, if it goes this way, humanity might extinct because of corrupted dna that holds a lot of degenerative problems.
Imagine finding out that your girlfriend/boyfriend is your half sibling.
The problem with this is that if u have a child and there is a recessive genetic disease there is a high chance of your kid having the full blown disease. That's scary
Deliverance banjo music plays softly in the background.
Yikes
🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮
Eww
The girl in the beginning tho...
Girl: "I'm gonna find out so why don't you just tell me."
Mom: "You're a donor child. You're gonna go look for your family now aren't you?"
Girl: "Yesn't"
I shouldnt have laughed at this
Yesn't? 💀 you killed me
lmao HAHAHAHA
tbh that made me really sad for the girl, you can just kind of infer a lot of her relationship with her mother from that interaction. Its fucked up her mom wouldn't tell her and its double fucked up she just immediately threw it in her face for wanting to know.
Imagine marrying somebody and deciding to have children, but when you do, the children have all sorts of deformities and health problems. You go to the doctor and he tells you it’s because you and your spouse are actually half-siblings with the same donor dad.
that sounds like a terrible nightmare
"Imagine" is right, because that's not how it works.
@@kaorumugen991 yup, it takes several generations to start getting weird issues if you have diverse stock to begin with. If there's a severe condition for which the donor is a carrier, which is unlikely on account of the screening, there's a 50% chance each donor child will carry that condition, making a 25% chance of a child of two donor children receiving the fickle finger of fate.
@@ALWhite-ub1ye That and also taking the ages and health of the parents in mind. Children from younger people are less likely to get sick at birth
And the doctor is the father.
They're all attractive and appear intelligent. Guy has good genes.
And that's the reason the biological parents picked him.
@@indirage or the customers can't get a date on their own
@@showmytime9177 okayyyy
@@showmytime9177
That's not why ppl get donor sperm or eggs. It's usually because a couple wants to have children but can't because they're infertile.
@@noox13 Then why most of the customers are single women?
I can understand why he wouldn’t wanna get attached, I can definitely see how it can be too overwhelming for sure. Having over a dozen new relationships would be insane.
from mothers you don't even know
Dewey cox story
@Ida hoe it's not normal, the kids have a right to know their identity, it doesn't mean they won't love the parents who raised them anymore
@@gabitzakissy no
@@malsawmzela609 no as in they dont have the right to know their identity?
Anybody noticed how 4 of them have the exact bluish green eyes :)
What are the odds
@@rofl2k3k lol.
Pretty good. 🤣
@@firghteningtruth7173 no way! It's almost like they are related or something. 🤔
@@firghteningtruth7173 actually blue green eyes are the rarest eye colors. Lol
That is except for eye diesease colors
“He’s the new guy” 5:16
I like how they say it like it’s a job or club or something
How else do you introduce the subject, then?!
Thought it was nice way to say it but kinda sad how use to it way they were.
Parents: divorcing plus fightimg
Honi:wat other secrets do u hv for me
Parents: 👀
👄
@Kaleb Um, parents who divorce ARE NOT selfish people. Most parents divorce due to the fact there in a abusive relationship or a parent is sexually abusing the child and etc. So many parents divorce for different reasons so how about you re-phrase that.
@Kaleb Sorry but I was actually happy when my parents split, they were always arguing, and it put a lot on me mentally when they were still together. It's much better now that they are separated and have found better partners. What you are saying is absolutely incorrect.
@Kaleb Yes I'm aged now, but was young when my parents split. I think you are being way to exaggerated with the whole serial killer thing cause that depends on the household and how they are brought up. My mother was good natured and very well as a single parent. Yes it may be different where you are from, I get that point of view, but it is different for everyone. You can't stay together if you are always arguing and carrying on, it actually effects the child way more then splitting up. (Custody is a huge thing though so I'm very lucky that It worked out well.) I do not think that its selfish on my behalf.
@@F3V00 most people divorce because they don’t like each other those situations you named are pretty extreme examples
Imagine walking into one of this sibling reunions to meet you half siblings and you see that one of the girls is someone you hooked up with. That’s a real bruh moment right there
then you figure out why you're child has a 5th finger
@@Epic_747 oh shi-
@@Epic_747 opposable thumbs are technically still fingers..
@@natsukimasamune7766 not in the same way as they have less joints and serve a different purpose
A real bro moment, you mean
Oh dang... as of feb 2021 there are 20 confirmed. He DEFINITELY has waaaaaaay more
Oh. Oh no.
Bruh moment for him huh
Daang!!!
super sperm :D wtf
Yikes-
There is a case in The Netherlands where a doctor himself spunked in all the tubes resulting in more than 170 siblings spread all across the country. Makes this case look like nothing in comparison. So crazy!
LOLOLOL.
Lmaooooooo
You have a link for this story?
@@ariyaikhsan1642 Yeah, but the number of kids varies greatly depending on article. anything from 17-200. It might even be more since not everyone has done DNA tests. www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47907847
That true! He was the doctor who saved me and my moms life. I was brought in to the world 3 motnhs early to safe my moms life. He even put his holiday on hold to operate on my mom and came to check on her in the early morning with his family waiting in te car to drive to Spain for a vacation. Crazy to think of that. He was an amazingly kind and passionate man who wanted to help as much people as he could , because of the lack of sperm donors available. Took his job a bit to far to nicely put it. 😂😂😂
Damn, this guy is like the example in my math textbook on probability.
Lmao just finished stats last spring. I swear he was like question 4 on the exam
Just like a car that we uses to draw on our childhood
Imagine getting married and having children with a sibling and not know they were your sibling because of this now you have a child with birth defects and other possible issues that should've never come up but because of the lack of regulation on sperm donations
THIS
The only thing they have in common is the dad, so the child would actually be fine or the chances are atleast less.
@@UnFyKilianZ no way ...
You do realise for a child to have birth defects through inbreeding, the child parents/grandparents/great grandparents have to be in an incestuous relationship/family. It happens over several generations before any actual defects start to occur.
nah... there are risks of birth defects and genetic disorders in offspring born half siblings cuz they share around 25% of the genes
This is so freaking bad. In a long term, if they can't trace who are their donor-sibling, they might ended up married each other without knowing. Genetic disease might become more and more common since there will be less genetic variability. This is why unstandardized sperm donor procedure is bad.
Ahhhh, see I never thought about it from this angle. Great point
Possibly interracial would be the way to limit the genetic disease? More genetic variability
@Lassi Kinnunen 81 if you can find a guy who can produce 17 offspring (like what happen in this video) through one night stand, please let me know. That guy must be a giga chad with zero sense of reponsibility.
There was also a study that followed couples that met & found out later they were siblings. Unfortunately they felt as though they had a deep connection and found it nearly impossible to separate as lovers.
Very true
Lol me over here with 44+ half siblings. It’s wild. They just keep popping up on 23andMe
that's exciting, congrats! : )
That's pretty cool. Now you have a big family.
I want to try this haha
Do be careful to not accidentally date one of them
@@Zack-fu4lo Well, unless they're into that then go for it LMAo
I love how this family clearly has ethical code in the genome
Unfortunately if you look into his medical practice, Dr. Bryce Cleary discriminated against a trans patient and repeatedly lied to her about the medical transitioning process to try to get her back in the closet. He also doesn't believe that adults can have ADHD so he refuses to treat them. He's pretty unpopular in his community. Not very ethical.
@@MikkiManson13 I will take that with a grain of salt, but if that's really true.. yikes.
@@MikkiManson13 well he was half right
@@saphfirr it's true I was the closet
@@zacheray based
Imagine dating someone for 3 years and then they send a text "apparently I'm your sister"
*Sweet Home Alabama plays in the background*
Id still smash
I believe that was in an episode on House.
@@shaynegallagher6006 Facts.
Roses are red
Cows have udders
Two gay lovers find out their brothers
What an amazing person Allison is. Doesn't want anything. Just being a good person. Brilliant.
Yeah, I have mixed feelings here. I really do like the idea of people like her in the world. Even though this whole situation is about that.
@@everythingisfine9988 lol....well if that doesn't make you think! Although, maybe she was one of the original 5 they claimed could be conceived from his samples....🤷
"you guys look more like my dad than me" somewhere there's a really nervous milkman watching this video.
Underrated comment 😂
@@jiminsojamful5269 I couldn't agree more!! Still wiping the tears spewing from my nose... laughed way too hard...
😂😂
😂😭😂😭😂😭😂
if this video was made by a certain Sunday night show in the Philippines, it would be divided up to 3 episodes with a really uninteresting cliffhanger.
This is one of the most oddly specific comments I have ever seen
absolutely right! HAHAHAHA
Ads would be longer than the actual show
jessica soho 🤣
Just straight up say you are talking about KMJS, dont be shy 😂😂😂
with a title like that you have to click
I wanted to see what the lawsuit was about.
@@sarahking9475 same
@@sarahking9475 same
Yeah it's a damn good title for the topic.
came to click dislike for click baiting
Imagine the ones who never found out they were Bryce’s children
Genghis Khan:
A man of culture I see.
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Lol. Burst in laught
Why is that? Im curious. Dont know much about genghis khan
@@sth469 Dude was the Emperor of Mongolia. During the Mongolian Golden Age they conquered over 33% of the world. And Gengis Khan was known for having more then 1000 Kids which at that time was an entire village. They say that 1% of the world are descended of Gengis Khans bloodline.
@@affye3127 Thankkkkkkmk youu🙏
I just appreciate how respectful all of the siblings turned out to be, regardless of their feelings and beliefs. Such an unfortunate situation but def better because of the sweet people involved.
What a mess, I feel bad for these kids,that can mess with your head!
The dad after finding out he had 17+ kids:
👁👄👁
Now just change those emoji eyes to blue.
@@stiben718 you cant
@@thefriendlyfolks655 I was being sarcastic ;)
@@stiben718 oh ok
20 including his non sperm donor children
At least they're all beautiful healthy adults living their lives and being supportive of each other.
My father is donor conceived. I took a ancestry tests. I found my father has 18 sibling. I’ve been talking to them over zoom. And they have get togethers. No lie. All from Stafford universities hospital in the late 70’s. No records exist of the donor anymore.
Lawsuit
That’s a lot of aunts and uncles and cousins but you should open a case to find it
@@Stalkergames916 there’s no records... and it’s not a crime.
Ngl being one of those siblings sounds kinda exiting, imagine suddendly getting to know a whole group of other people from all backrounds you are bound to genetically, sounds like a rad friend group to me
This is not the point, but his genetics made some gorgeous and intelligent humans.
with the cost of higher incest probabilities? i'm sorry but its a big NO
@@muhammadamirun3777 I didn't say it was a good thing, I said his sons and daughters are all so beautiful and eloquent.
Madi low key bussin 😳🥵
@@muhammadamirun3777 yeah it's fucked to put them in the same areas
@@CalebRoden go to your room 😭
Damn, never thought it’d be a possibility that in the distant future peope have to share their DNA in their Tinder profiles just so they don’t accidentally date/mate with an unknown relatives and avoid genetic complications for their next gen.
Next episode of Black Mirror, perhaps?
Even before Black Mirror, there is some sci-fi book(Soviet I think) where people in the future have to pass genetic compatibility test for marriage to prevent birth of children with defects. And in the book, protagonist even resorts to time-travel to alter the past at the point, where his lover got bad genes.
Actually it already exist. If I remember well, in Iceland, because there isn't a lot of inhabitants, there is an app where you put your family info (etc) that will calculate the degree of similarities with other people. Like that, you can verify that the people you meet/date isn't from your same family or is enough far away genetic wise to be able to have a baby that won't have health problem caused by similar genes. (sorry for my english). It's quite a common problem in every single population with "not enough" inhabitants or in islands
@@debow5042 i think family/DNA record keeping ( i.e. family tree) should be highly recommanded to avoid next generation genetically blunders.
@@ceu160193 name of book?
@@Inqtive It's a bit different subject, as it doesn't touch genetic damage from ancestors, but talks about compatibility between "specialists" - humans, that have their body and mind altered for certain profession, when it comes to marrying and having children, even if parents aren't specialised in same profession. Explanation in book is believable from real-world perspective, so it could be our actual future.
That man's eyes has some strong genes, many of children has the same eyes!!!
Forget the eyes, look at there ears.
I was thinking the same thing
yeah man.. at first glance i've noticed all of their eyes looks the same
the kids look so much alike and most of them have green eyes of the same shade, the doner's genetics are strong lol
Who Evers in your pfp can have my children and I hope she has the strongest genes 🤩🤩😩
@@Jj-hi7ih bruh what…
@@Jj-hi7ih my guy, his pfp is a man
@@kevintan5497 LMAOOO r/SuddenlyGay
Talk about a money shot.
😂
That profile pic perfectly matches the joke
E Skees lmao
*gags*
A million in one shot.
I’m a donor child, just looked up sibling registry and found out I have 2 half brothers apparently
Can I ask if you plan on contacting them or if that already happened, how did it go?
For real, this is crazy its that simple to find relatives you would never have known about otherwise.
Case is popping up
Welcome to the unknown known, where everything is the same but everything is also different.
Also a donor child and imma get off UA-cam and check too 😭
Whelp looks like the whole country will eventually be a giant west Virginia
Well everyone loves that song, so maybe why not??
you mean Alabama
*Sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff* ah yes, stereotypes.
I’m from West Virginia, I’m my own cousin 😉
@@Shumayal SWEET HOME ALABAMA!!!!!!
Maddy is freakin gorgeouss. and that green sweater suits her perfectly
if anyone's gonna call this dude a simp, use me as a punching bag for that
@@null301_ it's hard to punch you through the internet dude, so both of you are simping
@@showmytime9177 yeah I'm your simp now because you screwed me with that response
I was thinking the same thing! like WOW
I've got green eyes too but I'd be willing to take a chance on if Maddy is my half sister ;)
with 17 of them in the Greater Portland area, i guess it's just lucky that none of them accidentally hooked up with another one of them before they found this out....
It's possible they have but just are not aware of it
@@MissKitteeney 😱
They have - they just didn't share this info in the documentary...
this is a modern 21st century Genghis Khan situation
Except this guy didnt wanna be in this position
lmfaaoo this made me laugh
Far from it you should look into the 150 donor child case they referenced in this vid, now that’s a modern day Genghis khan situation
this is not a 21st century problem. this happens throughout all of history through disgusting human beings
@How Not To obvious troll is obvious
Did this man just say "the NUTS and bolts of this case"
I lol'd
Man I laughed so hard!
Timestamp?
As in how its all being held together
@@TheTinkle1 reread it again
Donor child: Freaking out after finding out they have 20 siblings
Me an Irishman: *“Where’s the issue?”*
My small mexican town: *"Yeah, where is it?"*
(Not because donors but because mexican families tend to be Huge. My grandma had 8 siblings so...)
I'm Irish too. Maybe it's an Irish thing but I met about 6 or 7 aunts or uncles that I hadn't seen since I was 5 years old, many, many years later, and my eyes teared up.
I didn't recognize any of them.
I felt like I was home and that I hadn't been home in many, many years.
I thought it would be awkward, and for the first 3 minutes I didn't feel any awkwardness, just made some light jokes and things felt normal.
"Hi, I believe you are my uncle?" I'd smile and shake their hand.
After a few minutes, and after I had met 3 of my uncles and 2 or 3 of my aunts, all within the first 5 minutes, I had to hold back my tears because of the feeling of home.
I didn't want them to see me cry and I didn't let them.
It got harder and harder until tears came out of my eyes, but my face had a smile, my voice didn't shake, and I did not let my mouth frown, although I wanted to cry from how whole I felt.
My father told me that my uncles told him that my aunts saw the tears in my eyes pouring out, and that they hid their tears, but went to the back of the house and hugged my uncles and they let their tears out and cried while they hugged my uncles. I assume they probably felt like they had found their long lost nephew.
I miss my aunts and uncles badly and it would be nice to move near them and near my father and mother. I am busy with life, but one day.
Family is one of my favorite gifts of life.
I just found out this is literally my life! 48 siblings so far... 🤯
Did you meet your siblings?
I’ve talked to a few of them. We have a private Facebook group & some of them have met in the past. It’s still quite new for me, lots to process!
@@frogsmith9578
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@@jessicakittredge3779 is there any registry or regulations by the govt to make sure the donor child didn’t end up marrying each other?
On the bright side, you have 47 Organ Donor options
Damn, he just genghis khan'd the US
😂 lmao!!!!!
Not even close.
-_- thi is regular asf. i have 19 siblings. one of my aunts ha 24 siblings. i guess this us weird in white people land.
@@truthkindahurtsloveyalltho6272 are you a rabbit?
@@truthkindahurtsloveyalltho6272 everybody have the same mom and dad? In the US there are a lot of broken families so the sibling count can get up there with same dad different mom and same mom different dad.
Absolutely crazy, I can’t even begin to imagine what being in Bryce’s shoes feels like. On the upper side, he makes pretty kids
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As a guy i understand he did this years ago and was told just 5 but fast forward to now he has way more than just 5 and it's on going even worse is the OHSU they wanna hide but the things your trying to hide are living breathing human being who are more than likely to speak out and connect the dots plus i find it ironic one of the lawyers is thr bryce guy actual kid its some karma if i ever did see it 😬😬😬
I thought that too lol. They are all good looking people
Pretty?😅😂
Overweight, big nose, bland features... How high are you?
They all look almost identical, it's beautiful.
yes!! All the girls look alike lol
Not really
Weird
this is so spooky because so many of them live within the same state what if you married someone and only then found out they were your half sibling
Sweet home.... BAMA
I believe people need to discuss personal, financial, professional, emotional and cultural things with their partner before they marry. Topics like adoption, IVF conception, physical challenges dealing with mental health/ addiction / financial issues will be discussed and talked out before getting married. So if someone found out they married their genetic "sibling", then it is on them.
THis could happen if the father was a player or kids were given up for adoption. One does not need only IVF kids to worry about marrying their genetic sibling. TO me this is just a money grab case.
@@indirage Just because you hold these beliefs does bot mean that everyone will.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m also a big advocate of gene testing. But you have to understand that it is a relatively new technology, and an even newer commercial product, so it has yet to permeate into human culture
That's unlikely unless you live in a smaller state even then it seems improbable because that's still a 100/100,000+ and that's assuming there's 100 people nearby that share the same biological father in a small state.
You have a better chances of winning a jackpot at a casino.
So, get to gambling!
Them's good odds, right?
They all look alike. The brown eyed ones look just alike
The seed is strong.
crazy that that’s how siblings works
... You see this in many towns, throughout the USA.
@@redninja216 ... No, the seed is not especially strong. It is just planted by devious means, all over the place.
@@joedavis4150 ALL over USA
This is why I roll my eyes when people talk about deregulation. Things like this should be regulated!
People want a free market then when things go bad they always show a surprised Pikachu face...
Poor: I dont have enouh money
Rich: Use yoir money wisely, use it in the stock market
When the poor people uses the stock market to get rich while the rich looses money
Rich: Pikachu Face
no it shouldn't be
@@optimusmikey Not doing so promotes risky inbreedingnin areas with low genetic diversity or an overall small population. It also would encourage deregulated sperm donation, which means low quality seen and potential genetic diseases.
@@optimusmikey to stop this from happening you bet there should be! this man had 20+ unknown kids out here not out of his consent. Thats messed up
That definitely sucks, having to get DNA tests to know if the person you're dating is unrelated to you.
Just move to Alabama
When the first location they show is where you live, you start thinking real hard about moving.
For real 😳 vnc folk bout to be asking mom and dad some questions
Yeah it’s really making me wish OHSU wasn’t my primary hospital lol
Lolllll oh no 😬
Just don't go to OHSU
Or making some mad dollars
How is there NO tracking whatsoever! Thats nuts. Lol.
Nuts hehe
@@joeladuma no pun intended.!!!!! :-)
So true.. i dont get that at all!
Nuts and bolt.
@@amitsinghrawat8483 thats gon go over alot of people head😂😭
It must be amazing to know you have so many siblings, but also heartbreaking to be afraid that every person you meet may be related to you
If I was one of them I would just move away and pursue an interracial relationship lmao...
And then also finding out that one of them is extremely overbearing. She has no desire or even wants to talk or find out anything about her dad. Until she finds out about the five point something million dollar lawsuit. And it's that point she wants to be all up on the TV and be the one that's talkin all the time. Even at the dinner you can see she's like the only one talking. And it's because she's one of those terrible Karen type people I guarantee you
“every person you meet”
no logical person in this world would make that statement and actually think that. gtfo.
The young Dr. Intern should have considered that before donating. He knew. He signed a contract before donating his sperm. Its spelled out in that contract.. .
@@swervebenz Right? Only a moron would think that this in any way significantly increases this risk.
They all seem so intelligent that these doctors must've thought his DNA contained good material for smart children... They all seem like such good people too...
This was easy to see coming after working in a lab at a prominent med school in the late 1990s, where male students were paid large amounts to donate “Ivy league” sperm. There were ads on flyers around campus and in every edition of the school paper.
One student I knew was dubbed a super donor, as he had high sperm counts, sought after features, and an impressive resume. I would not be surprised in the least to find out that he has thousands of biological children.
I believe he was paid $50-$100 for each donation, which allowed him to purchase a condo while in graduate school.
Wow
😂
Wow. I also want a 6ft+ 120iq+ nordic chad sperm donor for my future kids.
Man just imagine making $1,000 a day in college.
@@gottalovesaurav hell yeah
Its good to see that they are all so chill and seem like really good people.
usually donor kids are really really wanted by their parents, assisted fertility can be a very long and painful and expensive process. so they most likely got a lot of love and attention and care while growing up.
@@megansalt yep, can confirm, one of my classmates is adoptes and he is really loved by his parents
Holy moly, the gene for the nose shape is strong! Almost all the kids have the biological father’s nose
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Crazy , just realized it as well after ur comment.
Yoooooo u took da words rite out my mouth...dats all I kept sayn....no matter wat woman got ahold of dis sperm dey still all damn near look alike....crazy!!!
Crazy right...its almost like they all came from the same guy 🤔
Right exactly what I was thinking
Imagine having to face the fact that you could end marrying/living together and having kids with your half siblings who are conceived thru botched-up sperm donation practices many decades ago. Then, their kids suffer from genetic diseases that no parents would ever want to see and endure for the rest of their lives.
Some of that is around in smaller scales by undocumented adoptions and marriage out of wedlock. My boyfriend's family has a lot adoption, and I have no idea who the parents were of one of my grandmothers, but I know there was some indigenous guy who was likely the dad, making it so I'm related in some way to the people who were living hundreds of years ago where I now live. But who knows how many people may be related, especially where my French side was known for having 8-13 biological kids just from two parents. My grandpa grew up with 11 siblings. But if you go back far enough, I guess we'd all be related somehow, it's just how careful to be, and what the risks may be, and there certainly are risks.
I just found out this happened to me. 18 or so siblings across 3 or 4 states. Found out through using 23 & me. It’s insane the short sightedness of using 1 man’s donation so many times.
Do you have to be like super handsome to donate? I know you have to be healthy ..
@@famousbowl9926 Tall and educated too, preferably white and blue or green eyes are probably a plus. Those are the ones who probably make the most money.
@@famousbowl9926 the big ones are height, eye color, and health.
@@livebythews You probably have to be 21 years old right? I would check every criteria. Imagine having 30 children or so.
@@leirsdeirs6212 why would education matter? That has almost nothing to do with genetics..
I thought the donor was being sued for child support - thank goodness for him I'm wrong
Lol I thought that was the case too and I’m glad it wasn’t!
Worst Maury episode ever
@Eti Bronx relax, I’m sure they meant when they first read the title, which is understandable as it’s happened before. get your head out of your ass
@@shayk4791 *Best* Maury episode ever!
Medical student had no idea how much family he would really have.
🤣🤣🤣
This is how random strangers that fall in love find out they're related. It's so irresponsible. Imagine if a couple didn't even know and decided to have a child, there would be so many complications.
They have to get a DNA test before the sex. And I thought 4 play and flirting was weird
Well the recepient of the donor would have been told the risks right?
Thats not how it works
@@spiceyfrenchtoast9421 That's the point of the suit. He said for there to only be 5. Even in the same town, there would have been a low chance of anything like this happening. This guy has 20 kids that grew up in the same town... he probably actually has 100 or 200 kids in total, and if they were this irresponsible with 20 doses, imagine 10x the amount
Love the fact that they don’t abandon their real parents
Why tf would they abandon their real parents
why would they do that lol
@@blackalwayspink hi, I’m adopted. I feel for these people. Both my parents were afraid I would abandon them. It’s a parents feelings but I assured them I will always be their daughter and I would never abandon them❤️
12:47 let's appreciate the fact that the cameraman understand how delicious fried rice is. he kept looking on the food for no less than 9 seconds in total.
My grandmother had sixteen children. I have cousins all over the state. I don’t even know a quarter of them. I was on a dating site a few years ago and one of my cousins came up as a recommended dating partner. 😱 Welcome to Arkansas!
LMAO😂
I'm really worried because my grandpa had 13 siblings and and my dad doesn't know any of his cousins from them. I live in a area with 500,000 people (Everyone knows everyone somehow) and those relatives all have a different last name to mine and there's still a really big chance they still live in my area. The idea of not knowing if I come across or even date a second or third cousin really scares me
@@sushigoose_ dang
I'm glad for DNA testing which I got. I'm not a donor child. My Dad is one of the worst creeps and he should be in jail. When my half sister and brother, who are full siblings, found out about me they were surprised they were also upset and cut off all contact with our Dad. Who knows if we have more siblings. I have a lot of cousins who I don't know ten of which live in the same city that I do. I often wonder if in the past that I hooked up with relatives without knowing it.
Home sweet alabama
Can you imagine meeting someone, falling in love, getting married, having babies and your child is born with birth defects because of indirect, accidental inbreeding. How awful!
I agree but what are the odds of that happening...?
Right..there's only how many of billions of people on this planet..
It usually requires several generarions of inbreeding for serious defects. Even half siblings producing children would likely only result in fairly minor genetic issues, altho the risk of a genetic condition/disease is increased. Full siblings would obviously be worse.
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@@hlevin7419 Low now but if irresponsible handling of sperm continues to go unregulated then it'll happen more often
The one girl that don't want to reconnect with her dad seems to be just like her dad ironically. To each their own. Blessings to all involved.
I'm so happy that Honi's dad still wanted to be his dad after the divorce
I’m a donor child, and I already know of two half siblings. This seriously makes me wonder how many more siblings I have! I never imagined having more than 5-7.
I'm also a donor child. I dont remember the number offhand but I'm one of ~12 at least. its wild
@Rosa Maria damn, and i thought my parents having 50 each cousins was wild imagine having 50 siblings. :0 good luck to you!!
Just in case, maybe get genetic tests done before dating people who could potentially be a half sibling (same ethnicities or mixed people)
Women didnt think about this,they all wanted a baby selfish
Can't wait for the TLC reality TV show about this
Probably in the works right now.
@@detective___mcnulty Orphan Black has been a thing for years now.
Are You My Sibling?!?
nah tlc is out, this is defs going to be a Netflix series or Amazon series
Bahahaj, Donor by the dozen
I thought Bryce made a lawsuit against his donor children 😂
Lmao thats what i thought.... I had to rewind it