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- Dave uncovered the first edition of Australian Electronics Monthly magazine from July 1985, by Roger Harrison, and featuring a classic David Tilbrook MOSFET amplifier design, vintage computer, vintage analog scopes and more.
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Here in Russia we have "Radio (Радио)" magazine. They runs from 1924 to present days, publishing ham Radio related stuff and DIY electronics projects.
Hats up to them for surviving 1991-1993, 1998 and 2008.... BTW they have FTP server and you can download all their past issues. But they in russian language lol.
360p takes me back to 80s too. +1 for the atmosphere.
I would love to read through those old issues, but it's in Russian.... I imaging they build great stuff with even less complicated circuits and parts. Great to see that enough people kept their interest in this topic so they could survive that long :)
@@Orbis92 Google Translate does wonders these days, even realtime translation of what your phone camera "sees".
Or you can do OCR with Adobe Acrobat then feed the PDF to GT.
@@Orbis92 I suspect it would have mostly been HAM content and projects. I can't imagine what it would be like to be a HAM radio operator through the 50's 60's and 70's in Russia. Since HAM operators would have been among the very few people in that country capable of receiving and sending information around the world it must have been a very paranoid pastime.
Yep HF weather fax still exists to this day.
@Ken Mason No, I'm talking shortwave below 30 Mhz. I haven't played around with the satellite weather fax. That is also still around.
If we could get rid of the internet we could have good magazine's again
If we could get rid of bad journalists, we could have both.
@@SurajGrewal Ack, I can also steal content from the Internet and put it in a "Magazine".
Internet is bad
a week after the internet is gone i will be rich posting books of memes at bookstores for everyone who misses net
@@frogz damn I would buy a book of dank memes right now.
I was in high school in the 80s (class of 87) and had been into electronics since I was like 8, but our high school library had stopped receiving electronics magazines like a few years before I got there, but they had all of the old copies of Popular Electronics on micro film, so I would sit there and read through them and if there was a project that I wanted to build or an article, etc. the AV tech Mr. Benett (can't believe I still remember his name) would print them out for me for 5 cents (American) per page. that brought back some great memories, Thanks Dave!
I built the listening post and programmed a BBC micro to display satellite weather images received with an FRG-7. Thanks Dave!
Ah beautiful. I love the old magazines. I have copies of ETI, Elektor and Electronics and Musician Monthly from the early / Mid 80's that I "rescued" from the Uni I was at. Sadly I could've saved another 200 or so but they went without my knowledge. What a great Mag Dave!! Please do some more!! :) I've also still got my Microprofessor (in your words, none of that fancy pants 64 bit rubbish.. all Z80 goodness inside this baby.. :) ) Thanks again.!!
Wow...what a flashback. I worked for Applied Technology in1977-79 when they were in Hunter St. in Hornsby. I remember one of the problems we were fixing was key bounce. Press the key once and get 2 or 3 on the screen. Nearly 15 years later I got married and found out that my wife worked at Microbee. Small world. Thanks again.
Yep, built the Tom Moffat radiofax when I was around 10YO. Very sad when he passed. I used to love reading Moffat's Madhouse!
Why don't you do a video Dave with all the articles you ever published? It would be awesome :)
Kostas Albanidis That’s something I too would like to see
Great to see this first edition. Thanks Dave!!!!
Yep.. Lived It & Loved It. Thanks for the memory Dave.!!!!
As I posted in comment further down.
All these EA mags have been scanned in at archive.org/details/EA1976 (the example is EA 1979, with the months appearing at the bottom). Great nostalgia trip
In France we had Elecktorand radio plans. We were all after stoboscopes and high (?) power amplifiers to crank uo dire straits full blast
8:25 9:12 YES! I went to the '85 Perth CE show! Was awesome. I was 10, my mum gave me the day off school and took me to it. They had an excellent laser display, this was ofcourse back when lasers were gas, huge and heavy, and rarely seen by general public.
Yes i went to school with Corey Harrison and Jamie was his older brother, Roger was a pretty cool dad.
Smartwork was the first PCB CAD package I used. The company that sold Smartwork had another product HiWire which allowed you do both schematic capture and PCB layout. HiWire like the very earliest versions of Protel at the time was so primitive, particularly having no DRC but it was a big improvement over laying out an artwork with tapes and donuts.
I had a CPC6128 back in the day, on that Amstrad I learnt how to code!
In The Netherlandswe have had the Elektuur, came out eleven times a year with the June/Jule edition in one book and that one contained a lot of small DIY electronic projects, complete with pcb layouts. These months was the national holidays. The other 10 months the editions we're almost the same as the Australian version you are showing.
I don't think so... Elektuur had by far not as many advertisements, and it was not often reviewing stuff or teaching general theory.
It was a collection of DIY projects with PCB layouts, true. And it was famous for the monthly section discussing and fixing bugs in the designs :-)
And it still exists today, although it is now named Elektor (originally the name of the German/English editions) and only has 6 issues a year.
There were of course other magazines.
I had no idea that Tom Moffat had passed away. I absolutely loved his column in EA, back in the late 90s when I did my apprenticeship... He had an exceptionally witty way with words that I very much enjoyed reading.
Seeing the old Jaycar logo and some of the other Aussie electronics icons from the past brings back a lot of memories of spending my pocket money on EA, ETI, and Silicon Chip when I started high school as a young lass... No wonder everyone thought I was a nerd. 😂
@EEVblog, coming from you, I take that as a compliment. 😜
I recall ETI, Hobby Electronics, Everyday Electronics, Elektor, and Practical Wireless in the UK (80s to 90s).
13:26 My grandfather was a meteorologist and HAM. As a child in the 90's I used to watch the weather map appear on the screen of his 286 computer. Dot by dot, line by line.
I assume that was the short wave weather report you speak of.
Ha ha...I wanted to read the Mosfet article...360p, no way. I wondered why I hadn't automatically set to HD!
should be able to now youtube has finished stuffing round
I used to love Tom Moffats columns when I was an Electronics Australia regular buyer. Still have a few of the magazines despite a few house moves.
I have a suggestion...once a week/month/yearly...have a nostalgic episode..glancing for items through the old magazines and possibly showing it.. I'm sure Mr Jones you probably have some of the items advertised in your older inventory...just love retro shows... cheers and have a great day Sir
I did a survey on this a long time back, and not many people were interested in regular old magazine videos. But sure, a couple a year or something.
Okey dokey sir.. just was hoping.. cheers and have a great day Sir
Hi Dave, great stroll along memory lane.. As a matter of fact I did run a "weather fax" program om my laptop at my sea travels using a sound card. Easy and still usable, while being way out at the ocean's. There's no cheap Internet amidst the salty depths ;-) And as a matter of fact I still have got a Fluke 2, It's happily resting at my workbench's shelves in mint condition... Love your well informed comments an vivid memory while browsing this magazine.. Thanks, Cheers MW
I have a KIKUSUI COS5020. It needs all the switches and pots cleaned but works ok for what I use it for. I think I was born 25 years too late (1979). Thanks for sharing Dave.
I remember AEM being a bit more expensive than the other mags. Internally it was more like ETI (reflecting its origins) whereas SC was more like EA (also reflecting its origins). I think the square stapleless binding was also inspired by ETI.
06:45 have the same scope, Ramsey brand, on my bench right now. Works like a champ.
The old microbee computer. They had those in primary school, although they were much older than even this guy.
Geez, I've got so much of that stuff still kicking around. I picked up a kikusui 5021 last year off ebay for $20. Just needed to clean it a bit, fix the illumination lights and pot and she's a go'er. $800 for an entry level 20Mhz scope, now you can get a 200Mhz entry level digital with FFT for $300 - crazy.
The 60W mosfet board powered a guitar amp I made in the day. I was going through a box recently and was thinking of resurrecting it
Hi Dave. I have the exact same scope shown at 6:44, the JDR Instruments model 2000. Mine is branded under Brunelle Instruments and it is a 20MHz unit. It still works, btw.
Cheers, Chris VE2MW
Interesting to hear mention of Robert Fitzell Acoustics - my wife worked there long ago (although well after this magazine) . Mind you she also worked at Keycorp, possibly around the same time Dave was there. Don't remember this magazine at all, but I did see an ad for my first scope - the wonderful $250 5MHz model.
Bung it on eBay, Dave! And yep, the 80s were the heyday not just for electronics mags but computer mags too. By the 90s the home computer boom was over, and no one published BASIC listings anymore for kids to muck around with... guessing the same thing was starting to happen in the hobbyist electronics arena too?
The home computer thing wasnt over - they had just moved on to PCs and cover disks
The best part was making the new projects from those magazines ,printing pcb,drilling ,buying parts....
this is why copyright should expire in 25-ish years.. this data is so incredibly valuable, even today, and all it does it rot away in people's garages and attics. I hope this sort of stuff gets scanned and uploaded
Hey Dave -- you seem to relish electronics magazine history -- you might be amused to hear that this subscriber to your channel worked for Electronics Today International Canadian edition in Toronto in the late 70's. One of my jobs was to translate ETI-Oz and ETI-UK projects and other articles for the Canadian market, including spec'ing locally available substitute parts, translating things like the mains voltage, and various terminology. Many of those projects were sandwiched between articles by local staff and freelancers. And once in a while one of our articles would find its way to the UK or Oz editions. Though I never met him, I always enjoyed projects that originated with Roger Harrison, as they were thoroughly worked out and usually something exciting.
I had two MicroBees in the late 1980's. I'd pretty much forgotten they ever even existed until I saw this video.
Sacrilege!
RX-505! Nice. Still sought after to this day. About a decade ago when I was deep into cassette deck repair between jobs, working examples in good shape were going for as much as the legendary "Drangon". Their gimmick was that it is really hard to get the head alignment right for both directions of travel on an auto-reverse. Being out of alignment kills the high frequency and increases s/n ratio. The concept with the 505 was that it was easier to make the tape flip and have good head alignment than to flip the heads. Other high-end Nacamichi's of the day incorporated a dynamically adjustable head. Some (like the Dragon) could perform this adjustment automatically on the fly. Very interesting the lengths they went to to extract the best sound from a cassette. I still have a cr-7a that has the remote adjustable azimuth and auto-align... it's amazing how good it still sounds.
I started coding in Basic on an Amstrad CPC 6128 when I was a kid. Fond memories. Boy, how I wish I had kept it
Remember that well, still have a bunch of issues lying around in a dusty box somewhere. I had a MIDI controller project published in AEM during its brief lifetime (found it in Jan 1988 issue)!
We where having difficulty selling C/PM software in 1984 as it had all gone to PC-DOS and MS-DOS. We had a computer with a large external box that must have had a dozen drives in of every type, when creating a customer's disk the database would tell you what drive to use, get the right sized media and slot it in. It was recoded on the fly for that computer, be it Hi-Net, SuperBrain, Apricot, HP etc. Madness! Oh and we would get disks back, stapled to the letter with a note saying "There's something wrong with this disk!" Yeah, you put a staple through it!
Some things never change. Two decades after that, when I was building DSP machines, someone drilled a hole straight through one of our little audio signal processors and sent it back for repair. "Can you fix it?" No, ya dummy, there's a big hole through the board! :p
I know I ain’t the only one that thinks that that magazine look way older then just the 60’s
It does.. cheers and have a great day sure sir
Hmm.... Took a second to realize it but the Trio oscilloscope on the back cover was also sold by B&K Precision. Had to walk over to one of my benches and look. Sure enough it's exactly the same just a different name.
I had forgotten BK rebadged scopes way back, I think they also rebadged Goldstar scopes?
My first proper PC was an IBM 5150 which I got in the late 1980s and still used well into the 1990s. And it ran CP/M so it wasn't as dead a system as some might think. :)
Microbee Technology arranged a Mini Vintage Computer Faire this past weekend in Mooroolbark, Victoria :)
I built the Listening Post and it had software for the Commodore 64, I dont have the device anymore but I am sure the software is still there but have have rotted away by now. I used the Uniden CR2021 as the shortwave receiver.
Hi Dave. You need to check out the latest version of Eagle. Looks ace, and nice new simulator! Be nice to see a review of this version.
Do you still have the first circuit of yours published might make for a good nostalgia vid :P
Used smArtWorks at Swinburne Institute of Technology in my electrical engineering course in the mid-late 80s...and still have that eprom eraser on the opposite page! :-)... and then met Dave Warren from Protel and Zelcon in the 90s... a lifetime ago...
smArtWork by Wintek, yep the first DOS based Pcb design software I ever used. Came on a protected 5.25" floppy. Used the function keys to lay pads/tracks. The predecessor to Wintek's HiWire II.
@8:05 My first job after University was writing a part of MSX2 operating system (Z80 Assembly); subcontracted to ASCII corporation. Big in Japan I understand whereas Sinclair Spectrum's were all the rage in the UK at the time.
My first computer was an Amstrad CPC 6128. I wish I had kept it.
My mum sold my 464 for $20. I was NOT happy, still not
@@mycosys In about 1997 I gave mine away to a friend who wanted to get into computers. He got frustrated with it, not knowing how to do anything with it and refusing to learn and he trashed it. Still makes me mad thinking about it, but I guess by 1997 GUIs were everywhere and anything without one was not user friendly.
@@adslf874yti3q7u4hf83 I dont think i wanna know how mine ended up with the neighbours kids
I've seen tons of Hung Chang analog multimeters. Also had a few Oscilloscopes in my University. Honestly, they were thrown into deep storage after we got new shiny Teks. Also, Smartworks was my first PCB design program back in early-mid 90s. Also had Elektor (Dutch Elektuur shifted by a month for obvious translation-related reasons into Greek) and a few local long standing ones like Techniki Eklogi (running from the mid 60s), Ilektronikes epiloges (mostly ripping off Italian Nuova Elettronica kits :-p). Oh those were the days!
AEM was my go-to mag in the late 80's! I loved the fun informal nature of it verses ETI and EA (but I still bought the other two) Still have them all now, stacks of them. Don't have the first issue tho :(
What E mags are worth subscribing to now?
I'm in the States and got a year of "Nuts and Volts" a few months back. I like it, but it's bi-monthly which is a bit of a stretch for my only porcelain thrown E-fodder.
-Jake
Circuit Cellar or Silicon Chip? What's your verdict about Nuts and Volts?
@@samuelschwager
I don't have anything to compare it to really, so buffer my simple 3 year hobbyist opinion accordingly. The projects are extensively written, but even without having built any yet I'm seeing several minor errors with things like schematic/silkscreen/BOM errors and pictures that don't match up 100%. I don't see anything critical yet, but I'm seeing stuff like the BOM lists C7 as "xyz," the schematic shows C7 as "xzz," and an included 3D CAD image only shows C1, C4, C6, and C9. Obviously anyone that looked at the entire project would see "C7" is a 100μF filter capacitor and isn't critical to the signal path. Just don't copy/paste and order the BOM blind,..not that anyone should ever do this.
There are some printed corrections noted in each issue and online. I mostly appreciate the information and exposure to different aspects of the hobby I may be unaware of. It seems like a collection of projects more than anything, with a broad scope from a couple HAM articles to audio and μCs.
The current issue has an article on C precompiler directives and their potential applications with debugging code. That's probably the most useful article for me in this one. There's also a project where a 1W laser diode was used to burn text onto wood pencils. That project design is based on 2 galvo mirrors. I hadn't seen a setup like this before with a DIY type build. There's also a simple 74lvc1g04 based RF frequency counter buffer for TTL inputs. It's basic but it's easier to make use of than a similar datasheet reference type design as everything is detailed and explained in depth.
The previous issue had a DIY TL084 on perfboard THD audio analyser that looked interesting to me.
So far the mag is interesting on a practical hobbyist level. It doesn't seem like they are trying to force me into ridiculously priced software or proprietary hardware. It's mostly jellybeans and popular hardware.
I originally subscribed after finding/using an article freely posted online detailing a simple ICL7135 based frequency counter and prescaler. That's the old Intersil 10MHz fully integrated counter chip.
-Jake
@@UpcycleElectronics Thanks, wasn't expecting such an extensive answer :) I'll try an issue or two.
Dave! Find these popular items and break them down! Side by oem side would be very interesting.
Bondwell? Sounds like a denture retaining adhesive. Lol
An Ellistronics ad. I listen to the Jason Ellis show on Sirius xm and he talks about working there for his dad as a kid
please more book reviews and some great stories
I still have my Amstrad CPC and Toshiba MSX HX-10
I have (and love) my Kenwood CS-2150 oscilloscope! Was "Trio" a local Australian name for Kenwood or a re-brand by another company?
The Amstrad PCW series didnt launch til September '85 and they were CP/M, so it hadnt quite wheezed its last breath quite yet.
I worked with Smartwork and I'm sure that all the PCB in this magazine are made with this program
We only have elector magazine from germany Denmark do not have electronic magazines
Elektor is published in English, I'm surprised it's not available in Aus.
@@cambridgemart2075 www.elektor.com/elektor-labs-products/magazine/print/sort-by/publicationdate/sort-direction/desc/
In Denmark wee have had ee engineer that publish small folder with print and component you can buy and build, like weekend project, with description. translate.google.dk/translate?hl=da&tab=wT&sl=da&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fda.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJostykit
It used to be available in Australia, at least in Melbourne, still have a couple of copies somewhere, great mag and projects.
Yep, remembering when back to the future came out. I would of been about 10 years old.
Was a great movie, to see at that sort of age, when you do not have the cynicism, of being an adult later.
All these old mags, should be archived on the net or something. So people can see technology advancing in real time with them, if they are interested.
I find it hilarious seeing old tech mags, and old tech vid, or programmes, and people are talking about the first stages, of techs we take for granted today. Seeing all the different techs, and seeing which way society went with the choices available at the time.
These sorts of mags, plus tech shows, are a good resource, for anyone interested in how techs got to be where they are today.
Magazines? where we're going, we dont need 'magazines'!..
so awesome seeing the Amstrad 664 review!..i had the 464 tape and aways wanted the 664 or 6128..that thing lasted me well into the 90s!
The 424 was the classic. Those coloured keys!
@@EEVblog yup they dont make em like the 464 anymore!...thank god! LOL..colors where nice for kid..being sort of color coded helped learning...
and yes...im still downloading weather faxes these days with RTL-SDR!
I paid NZD$1695 for my Amstrad CPC664 Colour in 1986. I then upgraded to a CPC6128. I still had it running up to 1995.
I have an original MicroProfessor in the cupboard. Still works fine plus printer, eprom programmer. They are going up in value.
Hi from Brazil!
Hi
The Amstrad used 3 inch floppies, not the more common 3.5 inch ones.
AEM started strong and they had some great editions. They were also a bit hit or miss sometimes too, and I used to prefer EA for the Serviceman column which was as good as any thriller novel for me. It was still sad when they folded up though...
The other main competitor to EA at that time ('87) was Silicon Chip, and I think they did a good job of capturing a good share of the hobby audience. Things could have been different for AE, but I think most people at the time could not afford all of the magazines all of the time. You bought (or subscribed to) EA, then picked up one of the others maybe, if it had a particularly interesting article or project.
Yep, the serviceman did it for me too.
Ahh yes, the serviceman. I still remember one article I read decades ago regarding troubleshooting vacuum tube circuits. He talked about his calibrated screwdriver - you touched it on the point of interest and slid it towards the chassis until it sparked. The size of the spark indicated the voltage. His colleague had a calibrated finger, but it only measured three voltages: "Yep, it's on", "Ouch!" and "Bloody hell!!".
RX-505 article. I will have to pause and read it, then watch Nine and a Half Weeks.
My Merlin 2 computer (www.merlintec.com/lsi/merlin2i.html) PCBs were designed with SmartWorks. We printed out the layout at twice the size on a dot matrix printer with a new ribbon and several passes, joining the several pages into a single drawing and producing the masks from that. The memory board is two layers and the processor board is one layer plus wirewrap since we had only one month from the start of the project in late 1986 to showing it at a national computer fair. Here is a higher resolution version of the full picture (with Merlin 1 on the right): www.smalltalk.org.br/fotos/inova7.jpg
Maybe the Microsoft/Japan BASIC died very soon, but the MSX Computers lived up until the early/mid 90's, the sole reason for this was the insane amount of impressive videogames developed for the system. It was designed to be a Personal Computer but it lasted as a Gaming Computer. Today it can be almost completly emulated using the BlueMSX emulator or equivalent on any PC and OS. The same can be said for the SHARP X68000, designed for game developemnt studios (specially the Arcade division) then for the consumer market under the HUMAN OS (a variant of CP/M~MS-DOS) developed by Hudson Soft, but it lasted as the very first "PC-Master Race" in the gaming market.
But... but... but the original Bondwell had a built-in speech synthesizer!!! And don't forget there was a gazzilion dollars worth of Word/Calc/Datastar software bundled with this machine (just like it was with the original Osborne for NZ$1795 a few years earlier. I sold an awful lot of accounting software for use on the Bondwells -- in fact I sold a license to the NZ Bondwell importer so they also bundled my debtors, invoicing and stock-control suite with the machine. Ah... happy days :-)
Is there anything you didn't do? :->
@@EEVblog By the time you're as old as me you'll have a CV that's just as long ;-)
I don't remember, how did you go from a printed page with a trace layouts to a PCB? I used wire wrap at the time.
From memory, you'd photocopy or print onto a transparency which you'd then then place over a board and shine a UV light on it before finally submerging it in a ferric chloride solution.
@@ianweber9248 Don't forget the developer part to harden the coating that wasn't exposed to UV light. :) I've done a number of home-etched boards just a few years ago, but having the fabbed in China is just too cheap to justify the mess nowadays.
Those weather faxes are great. And its still a thing pulling images from more modern weather satellites like the NOAA (18 & 19) or the Russian METEOR 2. The NOAA are low res only, the METEOR is kind of HD but need a better setup than the NOAA ones. If you have a very good setup you can receive the even newer geostationary GOES satellites, which have visiual and thermal HD cameras. All can be done with an USB SDR dongle, but I also saw a classical setup with an HAM receiver and audio input ;)
Top video. Electronics emerging as a hobby was simply too expensive for most, particularly 80s Australia.
I'd love to compare this to an electronics mag from Japan in 1985...
I disagree. Hobby electronics wasn't necessarily expensive in Australia in 1985 though some aspects could be. Yes, test gear like oscilloscopes were costly but you didn't need that to enjoy hobby electronics. Full form kits weren't cheap either. But there was plentiful old valve stuff, transistor radios and black & white TVs that you could salvage parts from. And simple parts like transistors, resistors and capacitors weren't too expensive from Dick Smith (though they were from Tandy). Public libraries usually had several electronic books and you could order ones they didn't have. And it was typical for young people to be given heaps of stuff by radio hams (often older men). Cheap electronics, the information revolution and even changing social relationships have changed a lot of this.
Yeah salvaging parts from bins and being given free stuff will never be expensive I suppose. Recession hit my Australian suburb harder than yours I guess. (Y)
I remember Basic. Q-Basic in particular. I used it for a high school project once. I made a stick figure walk onto the screen and hold his hands in the air and make an explosion.
MSX computers where quite populair in some european countries scuch as the netherlands. They where used in schools here, Philips had a range of MSX computers and where quite committed to the platform.
Come on, Dave. We know you've a drawer full of Playboy magazines stashed away somewhere.
I look forward to that "walk" down memory lane. :)
13:54
The modern equivalent by *The Thought Emporium* (no affiliation)
"How to receive beautiful images of the Earth Directly from Space"
ua-cam.com/video/jGWFg7EDnyY/v-deo.html
He does mostly biology stuff but has a few really interesting uploads about radio astronomy and such. It's worth checking out if you haven't already discovered it.
-Jake
Around that time, CP/M-86 was releasing their multitasking version on appropriately designed computers. Later it morphed into DR-DOS, which lasted until Win95 ended the market. DR-DOS was also used as the preferred bootloader for Novell Netware 4.x servers.
I used DR-DOS for years
interesting to realise that Win95 has become old ... since 95 means 1995 and ... 1995 is now ancient. I'd say 1995 became ancient around 2012. so the new ancient year is 2002.
I used to "program" Apple graphics back then! xD
I only got a dollar a week pocket money back then. Blew it all on lollies and arcade games at the corner shop, so I never owned a magazine back then!
Are these archived anywhere?
One of the dumbest things I did in the past was throw out my old Radio Electronics mags from the 80's and 90's...
Cheers,
- Eddy
Mate, so sorry to hear. I have come close to doing it many times over the years, but fortunately still have them. They're incomplete(edit: lots of gap months/years) but stacks and stacks of EA, AEM, ETI, SC etc
Viatel, Great Galactic Conflict (or something like that). A very early, multi user, network game with messaging. Played on a microbee with the modem based on...."The World Modem Chip". CPM running Zork. 2 yes 2 Floppy drives.... Halcyon days.
Yes Dave, CPM lasted until 87 88, Toshiba had CPM machines with the 8" disk drives mostly used as word processors. There was a machine called a Molecular it had a number of Z80 boards with UARTs running terminals, sort of a mini mainframe sort of thing. There was the Webster, PDP clone. And of course, the IBM, IBM clones, the Apple II and ….. the Wombat (Apple II clone) as well as all various Amstrads, Sinclaires etc not to mention the TRS80 or the Commodor PET, VIC20, 64 and so on. Hitachi Peach !!!
I will stop now.....
:)
We definitely still / also had CP/M machines in '92 at my university - it was the first time I saw it actually. Well, there's Eastern Europe for you...
i have a MicroBee on the shelf ;)
Who remembers Hung Chang ... jokes just write themselves.
Thumbs up, hands up, don't shoot.
That Bondwell ad... haha! Obviously ergonomics wasn't a thing way back then.
What's ergonomics...
what kind of bird was on the logo?
A kookaburra
@@vk3ye Neat! Thank ya kindly. :)
Who is Bobby Dazzler? I’ve never seen that brand before.
The MicroProfessor. Back when I learend to program in Hex into eproms.
Now I'm teaching PIC assembly language at Uni.
Apart from more onboard features, effectively the same.
You didn't have Elektor?
I have about 20 electronic magazines from the USA late 1970's.
Got Elektor since 77. Loved their Circuits books as well.
You could buy it at Dick Smith and news agents, though from memory it was about twice the price of the Australian magazines. Later editions of Australian Electronics Monthly had an Elektor section in the middle.
I was 16 going on 17 - Dave how old were you then?
You didn't have *Elektor* ? That one and ETI were my favourites.
No, we didn't get the overseas mags here in Australia.
Still exists, online: www.elektor.com/
And there are copies in the internet archive: archive.org/details/ElektorMagazine
Look, July 1985 :-)
archive.org/stream/ElektorMagazine/Elektor%5Bnonlinear.ir%5D%201985-07#mode/2up
We did have Elektor in a form in Australia. For a while it was often presented inside one of the local mags - "Elektor in AEM" I think.
Still some weather faxes out there www.bom.gov.au/marine/radio-sat/marine-weather-hf-radio.shtml but the peak of the hobby is getting imagery off satellites in FM sq7obj.wordpress.com/2012/07/22/receiving-photos-from-noaa-satellites-with-rtl-sdr/ or for extreme nerd cred LRIT/HRIT pietern.github.io/goestools/guides/minimal_receiver.html
Even back then they wanted you to SUBSCRIBE!!
I thought AEM was a great magazine.
I had a stack of electronics mags and AEM was my preference between them, ETI and EA
Soo it has more value now?
Being british everyone had a computer in 1985 even if it was just a speccy.
What are "wackers"? Why is it good not to have "wackers"?
No wuckers.
dailysaying.blogspot.com/2006/03/no-wuckers.html
www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=no%20wuckers