I love Personal Pace for working around lots of shrubs. I bought my first one in 2003. Still using it. That Tecumseh just keeps going. I have maintained it well.
Hey Flint! I noticed that name a change a while back! I knew it was still you! You’re good! Thanks as always for being a cool fan since the beginning! 👍
Still using my 2010 Toro 22"recycler front wheel drive, runs like a dream, just regular maintenance each season and no problems, and only wear if any besides the front wheel wear, the Trailing Shield, is cut here and there from going backwards and got stuck and blade took a little bit of plastic, bag still good, chute good, overall 10/10, fresh paint under the deck as rust prevention. love my 190cc engine, carburetor strong as no plastic.
I have a Poulan pro 22 inch front wheel self propelled mulcher bagger side discharge with the 6hp from the early 2000s and it's a fantastic mower. It still runs and cuts like the day I got it, I do like you maintain all my equipment regularly. It still starts on the first pull. I never had the chance to use a Toro, they do seem like awesome mowers. That was super cool of you to give your Toro to him. Your a great guy JB!!! Love the content my friend.
Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. I've been using Toro mowers since the early 1990s. My experiences have been very similar to what was mentioned in this video. The best 21" mower Toro has made is the current commercial 21" series that first came out in 2014 and continues today. Equipped with either the commercial Kawasaki FJ180v or the Honda GXV160 engine, they are incredible mulchers and very good baggers' wet or dry. They are heavy due to the fact that they're built like tanks but very durable and efficient. The only problems I've had with them are: 1. When mulching damp/wet grass, it spits clippings behind the left front wheel. Then, your left rear wheel goes over those clippings and they get stuck on the rear left wheel. This then requires you to go back over those clumped clippings. 2. Cost...Boy have these commercial 21" gone up a lot in price the past few years. I live in Canada. A few years back, you could get a commercial 21" for $1500-$1800 depending on the model. Now, the same mowers are up around $2500-2700. That's double the price of the Super Recycler you have in the video.
I feel as if this video was talking to me directly! I have an 8 year old Craftsman push mower with a Briggs 163cc/7.25 engine. I know it's a "craftsman" and not up there with the high end mowers but it has really served me well. I have done all the things necessary to take care it. Here recently I had to replace the plastic carburetor and the front wheel assembly is starting to separate from the mower deck. I have thick St. Aug. and have been wanting to upgrade to a more top end mower. Since seeing the new Toro Super RecycIer I have been really leaning towards purchasing one but after watching this video plus others like it with the same views. I am having second thoughts, The Toro is definitely pricey and don't want to buy another mower for 8 more years! But these days is anything built like things used to be(?) Things are being made with less quality parts at outrageous price points. Thank you for the video it was classic!👍🇨🇱
Thanks for checking out the video, Josh. See if you can nab one of these older machines. They will outlast anything that is made nowadays. I found mine on Facebook marketplace. You are absolutely correct nothing is made like it used to be.
Been watching your videos for a while now and found myself an older Toro Recycler 6.5hp with the classic self-propel drive handle today! Can't wait to mow my lawn with it later this week! Love the content!
What a great conversation. Thanks for sharing. I bought a 2023 SR this year and so far so good. I have my old recycler in the shed still. I doubt I'll ever get rid of it
Wow good timing and good timing. Some Toro experts just down the road from here in Rochester. Just getting around to a free find Toro GTS2 550. Again just starting to look at it but it has electric start(with dead battery of course). Manual choke lever and 3 drive speed levers. Looks like a Briggs engine and not that Suzuki thing they put in for a bit. I am sure I will be back here not only looking at your channel but will probably have a question or two for you and your neighbor with the Toro knowledge also. thx Tim
This is the first video I've found on the super recycler. I was just giving one of these mowers and still mine seems different than all of these. Mine is an older 22" 6hp personal pace super recycler. It does have a primer bulb and does not have a choke. It has the chute made into the deck for the bag attachment. It doesn't have a side discharge made into the side of the deck. It doesnt have the bar for adjusting the cut height. Instead, it has an adjustment at each wheel and markings lettered ABCDE for the height. I have two problems. 1 is that i can't figure out to open the chute to attach the bag. My 2nd problem is that reverse doesn't seem to work because i litterly have to drag the mower backward. Im not sure of the year model. However, it does start easily and cuts great
@@LH-kz2nf hey LH! If you want to send me a picture of the mower and possibly the 5digit model number to my email in the video description perhaps I could help you out further. I can tell you though your personal pace cable is probably out of adjustment and not allowing you to back up.
Great video & information! Purchased our 2005 commercial recycler about 3 weeks ago & it cuts great, especially on our bermuda. Does well on mulching of our fescue too, but not a fan of the low max HOC. The mower is heavy & somewhat cumbersome if need to mow around obstacles, but becoming more adept on handling the mower. Still looking for a bag for our mower, but nothing yet, which may be a deal killer on keeping the mower. It is a beast & will mow just about anything w/o an issue. Like the guys said, if can find one of the older models & keep them in shape, then they should last even longer.
Ah, you guys are fun! Haha, I just appreciate people having this kind of enthusiasm for well-made products. Like the old Toyota 22RE engines, where you would rebuild after 200,000mi, these old Toros are worthy of the same kind of love!
The old Toyota and Honda car engines had factory oversize pistons and rings available from the dealer for rebuilding the bored-out engines with factory parts. The old Briggs 190cc engines did too. They were designed from the ground up to be rebuilt many times over.
I have an old Toro Super Recycler 21" residential personal pace with electric start. Runs great, bag is new as it's never been used. Needs new battery, maybe wheels. Last year it wouldn’t start, so I pulled the original plug and lightly sanded the electrode, blew out the air filter for the first time in about 10 years. It started right up and is running great. I have kept up on oil changes. If I remember correctly, it cost around $770.00
Great video, and a great transaction at the end. It's probably a relief to you that the mower will be in good hands. Now, me being a Snapper guy, i would suggest that if 1 of your local subscribers had a few Hi-Vacs and Ninja walk-behinds of various vintages, that could be another interesting one. You could really end up in the weeds with really old Snappers, where you might come across one with a 2-cycle Robin engine, or a Tecumseh engine that you haven't seen in a long time.
Hi. I am at the point where I will need to purchase a new Toro super recycler 21 inch mower spring of 2025. Have you heard of any updates/ changes toro has made for their super recycler 21 inch for 2025 ?? My super recycler is just very shop worn. It's about 5 or 6 years old. I used to have a lawn business mowing 10 to 12 lawns a week. Mostly the height of cut pieces are busted up . And other little issues. Just does not mow easily. So hopefully 2025 model will be better than 2024? Please advise. Love your vids. Cheers
Thanks for your channel it is informative and helpful. I own a Toro SR4 model 20055. Bought it in 2005. It was one of the models that came with the mulch plug, bagger, and side discharge chute attachment. I still have all three. The rear sweep is cracked and needs to be replaced. I have not had to replace the belt yet, but I did have to clean the carb. It has been a great mower.
I wish I can find those old mowers. When I started cutting lawns my first mower was one of those old super recyclers I believe was 19 years old when I got it. That mower I believe had the best cuts. I had it for a year when the gear finally went out and bought another new super recycler which was crap. I had to return and got me an hrx217. A good mower but I beleive doesnt cut as good as the old gts
My new super recycler gives a wonderful cut. And I like the quick change between chute, mulch and bag. I just can't get used to the personal pace drive system. It just doesn't work well for me.
Got a 2003 super recycler with the personal pace. I think that was the last year they made them with that particular deck design. Great combination. Love the personal pace but love the older super recyclers.
And yes. That rear discharge chute is almost impossible to find. Luckily was able to find mine on eBay. I personally don’t think they discharge that good like the more modern side discharge toros.
Ive commented before,my 2023 super recycler 163cc still sputters,and now blows black upon start up.im now being told all thats normal.$1000 mower i am not happy with.waiting for the honda stop sale to get figured out.my toro will go down the road.the worst mower ive owned to date.briggs and their plastic carbs can kick rocks,i am not confident at all the motor will hold up.great video JB,thats awesome getting an old school dude with ya to share experiences with!
@@StevenDBalboni That’s unfortunate. I just bought the 60v version of this mower. If you can cut your lawn in under an hour, I would switch to electric. And this is from someone who has been a gas Toro and Echo guy.
Quick question...been to few sites...when YOU mention regular maintenance on your machines..are you just talking about changing the oil and air filter when necessary, cleaning them up after a mow, sharpening the blades frequently. I just hear a few different opinions....what is regular maintenance mean to you on a lawn mower? LAST QUESTION....bought a nice size property...need a ride on mower...any recommendations? Toro seems ot be your brand. Thanks in advance to any and all replies
Yes, basic maintenance is what you covered. If you’re looking for a rider of any kind, I would look at John Deere. They hold their value, but you will pay $$ for them. Thanks for watching the channel.
I had a 1993 Super Recycler for 20 years and gave it to a friend when the drive cable broke. The new 2013 Recycler unfortunately came with plastic gears on the wheels that wear out eventually. After researching I changed to the wheels with metal gears but had to change the pinion gears to match the wheel gears. There’s still some gear slippage occasionally and I’ll probably have to replace the pinion gears or wheels or both eventually. I think in 2014 Toro changed back to metal gears in the wheels.
This is what I think caused the wheel wear on all of these mowers. After doing this never had another problem. Still use mine with no wear at all on the plastic gears. ua-cam.com/video/RVK_po7BRZs/v-deo.html
I have a 2001 or 2002 recycler, I can’t remember should I go newer the one I have in good shape or should I get a new one to save that one because it runs good I love mine
Bought one in 2008, a year later the coil gave out, then some years later the gear on the rear wheel drive transmission stripped out, and no more self propelled, which seems to be a common problem. I really like the personal pace, but other than that found the mower no more, or less reliable than the craaftsman models I had. Also it had electric start, and the battery wouldn't hold a charge anymore, or the started crapped out.....can't remember. Also it had a key to start, just one, was a PITA making sure you didn't lose it.
@@GarageGear did you ever get toro to send over your side discharge chute after reg? I’m going on 2 months and haven’t received yet. Just gave them a call and apparently there’s a backlog they’re still working through
I have two super recyclers a generation older than the one seen here Good machines I also have a two stroke toro and a comercial 22174 model all Very well built
I still have my rear bagger I got in 1989 21 inch GTS engine still starts on the first or second pull even after all winter storage. I use startron fuel stabilizer.
11:25 I have 3 of them. One with electric start and I just bought the key. All 5.5HP models. Gonna make it a walk behind with a trailer. Self propelled will be electric hybrid now.
Toro Super Recycler SR4 model 20057 won't start when engine is hot , and sometimes I hear a screeming noise for a few seconds when it starting. Any clues what is going on ? Thanks
Those super recycler have been around the block a few times and still ticking.. i bought the 2022 Model with the 163cc and it runs good had to adjust the drive cable so it's more aggressive as i got a lumpy back yard and hilly side yard 7 and 15 degrees i didn't like the Honda thumb control as the yard is lumpy i couldn't keep the speed control consistent.. the Toro just push it and it works good plus i prefer the aluminum deck and bigger wheels plus it very fuel efficient .. ethonal free fuel sucked out the fuel for winter.. fired up on the first pull this spring
Great Video, I have modded my hrn216 to race in the local road racing club championship. Installed clipons, akrapovic exhaust and tie wired the blades bolts to pass tech inspection. Looking for some small tire warmers and paddock stands for it.
I have a 2001 or 2002 recycler, I can’t remember should I go newer the one I have in good shape or should I get a new one to save that one because it runs good
@@GarageGear I got an Oil Leak to Deal with!! And she never threw any snow!! Lol next week ill be tackling that, ya may see a post from me for sos. Hopefully its just a gasket/seal or line but not Too far into the engine. Ya doing any runs or vacationing this summer man ya need a break!
@@Parabola_PJ I did make some merch in the past but no one really wanted them. Only a couple of takers. There should be links below the video to some shirts/hoodies though!
We still have a Super Recycler my father bought in the late 90's, looks just like the one at 1:49, I replaced a bunch of parts on it around 2010 (carb rebuild, air filter, spark plug, fuel line, primer bulb, wobbly front wheel, and self propel belt), it still works perfectly.
I've sold two of these old school Super Recyclers this summer. I wish I had the space to keep one, the build quality of them is top notch and can't be found in a consumer grade mower.
Tom - that same video JB posted of the Arien's snow blower brought me to Garage Gear as well....and made me stay. Like Christmas morning now each time he uploads a new video. Hit that LIKE button dear friends. Would somebody out there please offer JB his own talk show/podcast. A man of many talents.
I have my 96 Commercial 22151 and still starts on the first pull. With all options I paid $1100. All I have replaced is the coil. With Blade Brake Clutch it weighs 110 lbs.
I'm not a fan of the personal pace. Mine push is a Honda. The John Deere x720 with power flow is my go to, 15 minutes driving easy and under 10 when I'm in a hurry. Great video, marketplace here I come.
I have a toro commercial 2 cycle aluminium side discharge deck. Just wondering how rare that deck is? Gave $10 for it a couple months ago, runs need adjustment, an air filter cover and a drive wheel gear which has worn out.
Since I’ve owned my current house….1997, I’ve only used Super Recyclers. I’m on my third one….not because they needed to be replaced, but every 10 years or so, I like getting the newest tech. My only complaint with my current one from 2019 is that changing the mowing height can be difficult.
I had 4 toro sr4. I acquired. Used 1 for parts fix 3 1 with blade clutch sold the guy had one with out that feature wanted it. Other 2 1 has quantom other tcl china engine. Hope they sell they are personal pace. I used the one with cracked deck for parts to replase rear wheel adjusters that were wore out from no grease. Could push front of drive wheels in front about a inch. Bushings wore out
I like your idea of moving pull rope to the left side. I will do the same. On my 2016 Personal Pace Super Recycler, I just replaced the Recoil/Blower Shroud because the rope wore through the metal ring and caused a notch to appear in the plastic housing. The rope would catch in the notch and get stuck. The shroud cost $55.22 + tax. Thankfully it was less than a 5 minute fix. And also it includes a new rope and coil installed so that has been replaced before it actually broke. My father and uncle have had two different Toro dealerships throughout my life. I’m 48 years old now and since I was a little kid I have been fortunate to have all Toro lawnmowers except only two. (1) MTD, (1) Craftsman (3) Toro. I’ll never own anything but Toro for the rest of my life. Thanks for your content and channel. - Brett, South Dakota.
Awesome Brett! Moving it to the other side can save your rope. You can also find the entire recoil housing for for a decent price on eBay. Just match up the model number! Thanks for being a cool fan!
Great video!! I bought a super recycler new in1998 and am still using it to cut my grass today. What an awesome machine. I'm thinking of getting a new mower. I cant decided between a super recycler or toro commercial 21" with the kohler engine.
I actually bought a Toro rear side discharge/bagger back in the 80s and used to mow ALOT of yards. I pretty much used it till the engine went bad. Still have it, body is in good shape, but does not run. I thought many a time about getting new engine put on it, just never did it.
I have a 21” commercial unit just like your ‘04, but slightly older (engine is different). Everything else on is just about identical. Any idea why my single bail “neutral” setting isn’t working? Basically I can’t let the handle halfway down to neutral the trans/wheels for turns. It stays in drive until you let it down too far and it shuts off. Is there an adjustment I’m missing?
Ok there is an adjustment knob on the back right above the transmission perhaps you need to spin that left or right a couple of turns to adjust it to where it needs to be. Give it a shot and let me know how it works out for you!
Wow! What a wealth of knowledge from Tom! He must live in our neck of the woods JB. Giving an heirloom to a new home knowing it will be well cared for is very kind of you! Excellent video JB. Cheers my friend!
I loved the video and went on market place looking for a aluminum decked Toro after this video. Ended up buying a Older silver Johk Deere 14SE aluminum deck, rwd, bagger, kawasaki engine and it stripes like a dream! Runs super smooth and quiet!
The pull rope on my Toro GTS5 6.0 broke last week. I bought a new handle/rope and went to replace the rope, but how to get to where the rope attaches is a bit of a mystery. It looks like my fly wheel housing is riveted down. Any help you can provide is appreciated.
Perhaps this video can give you some guidance. HOW TO FIX A BROKEN RECOIL STARTER ROPE ON A TORO SUPER RECYCLER ua-cam.com/video/vBQ1PAA1k_E/v-deo.html
I have that rear discharge chute for those older super recyclers and you’re right they are impossible to find and pretty pricey if you do find one. I think I paid $90 for it. Personally I don’t think they discharge that good and can easily clog if the grass super long. I would suggest getting the newer one that actually have a side discharge.
@@GarageGear hello, damn i have no idea, i will try to check tomorrow, cuz by tipping "600 gts briggs" i dont find anything. I post model after i ve checked it , thx for your answer
I just found a 1998 super recycler in the trash and its in the same shape as the 99 in the video only thing that was wong with it was a broken recoil rope and a plugged air filter. Runs and cuts amazing
My dad has a Toro with a cast aluminum deck and Tecumseh engine. No joke it’s almost 40 if not 40 years old. Not one problem yet. Original parts still cutting grass with just sharpening the blade. Still has the original red plastic bagger and wire mesh leaf mulch kit.
Update: ((optional add on) Toro part number 144-6377 traction assist handle kit) does fit all new Toro mowers that have the new baby carriage curved shape. IMO you could make your own Toro's BTAH (Black Traction Assist Handle) from 2 pieces of wood in ((L) shape) and some bolts and washers. Toro's BTAH converts Toro's PPM (Personal Pace Mowers) (which requires a person to push Toro's heavy mower forward before the self-propelled drive kicks in) to ((easily without effort) controlling Toro's self-propelled drive with just your fingers and hands without moving forward). This is needed on steep hills where you need the Toro mower to pull you and this powerful mower up the hill without any effort on your part. The powerful Toro mower can do this only with BTAH and not by Toro's PPM (extra exercise mode). Without BTAH you end up pushing this heavy Toro mower up the hill. Thank you for your help and understanding on this Toro (back breaking) mower issue.
Nice video! You need to get someone with a nice Lawn-Boy collection! I have a few Including a model 10550 with Easy Stride. It’s like personal pace but not a baby stroller. Haha. Nice stuff.
I have a 6.75 model 20051. It has not started without a fight since I had it tuned in a shop. I just realized it needs a prime bulb. Can’t find one anywhere !There has to an after market part. I even went t to a dealer and was brushed off. I’m a small woman and the electric start is a necessity for me.
If the primer is intact but isn't working it might a bigger issue.... The air filter holder can be twisted & removed, try & see if gas sprays up with the air filter removed. Partstree #640259 for the primer $9.00 +shipping.
I just picked up a commercial model with the Suzuki 2 cycle engine. Excited to get that one going. I don’t know if you’ve ever seen one, but a Super Recycler (2000 model) with a Kawasaki engine and personal pace popped up in my area! It’s got a special paint job that was only offered on these limited run models and also a 10 year warranty. Only $60 but the drive doesn’t work. Should I go for it?
@@GarageGear Provably will! In your opinion what’s a better cutting deck the Toro commercial model deck or the John Deere JX75 style deck? From your experience which gives a better cut?
Have a question for you and Tom. I have a Toro Super Recycler model 20437, think it’s a 1994. The field mice got to the grass bag during the winter and chewed it up. Went looking for a replacement and can’t find one. Is there a bag I could purchase and using my current frame install it on? Another option would be a mesh material and sew it on?
Hi just picked up a Toro SR4 from a yard sale. My problem is it has no model or serial number. Believe I checked all over. It does have a tag on the engine itself. It was built in 2013 november. It is a 163cc. Do you have any idea what model this would be?
Hey James! The build quality on the toro electric models is not any better or even worse in some ways than the new toro gas models. I would avoid em’! What kind of parts mower do you have?
@@GarageGear Hey man so I have a well cared for Toro 20332 if you’d like it? I was gonna put a new carb on it, might need a cpl other things but don’t think it’d take much to get her running well again. Have a striping kit for it. Also have a Husqvarna blower, Echo string trimmer that u cud prob get running w minimal effort. Have more as well but wud need to get a new (electric) string trimmer and blower before getting rid of them. Lmk if you’re interested, basically u come get the stuff it’s yours. I’m in Amherst not sure what the best way to exchange contact info wud be. Let me know man!
Hey man lmk sooner than later if you’re interested bc I don’t have any extra storage. If you’re not interested maybe you know someone that would be. Thank you lmk! 💪🏾👍🏾
@@James-blond007 hey James! Sorry for the delay. I’ll have to pass at this time because I have way too many projects going on the garage as we speak and more to come! Thank you very much for the offer though! 👍👍
Hey Moises! Honest opinion… loads of engine issues I’ve seen over the years and the decks rot out fast. Had a handful of those in the garage. Gave up fixing them and just started ripping them down for parts! Thanks for watching!
Awesome vid, JB! Tom knows his stuff!! And as a Downstate Giants fan......... January 27th 1991: WIDE RIGHT!! Giants 20, Bills 19. You can ban me now, JB. Lol
Hi JB after watching you and Tom talk about the super recycler trailing shield I made an upgrade to my 2022 Toro 21564 like the one you have. I bought a Toro Time Master trailing shield part 120-6241 and with a couple of mods with a razor knife I have a great trailing shield.
@GarageGear No, and the first time it went out, when I took it a lawnmower repair shop there were others like it there with the same issue. It cost $100 to repair and after it failed in another 8 months or so I bought the repair kit online for $35 and fixed it myself, but the problem was that the gears appeared to be stamped out of sheet metal, and that one failed as well. I bought a Honda about 6 or 7 years ago, and it's been as reliable as a hammer.
Buffalo NY? Im right outside Syracuse. I have the Toro 22" Recycler with the Honda Motor, bought it brand new in 2020 and mine came with the side discharge. Best motor I have used in any push mower, bulletproof. Great stuff!
I have a super recycler bag just like that one shown for the 2004 commercial mower. I never use it. Sounds like it's worth some money. I am open to selling it.
Great video! As per your suggestion I just found Super Recycler GTS 6.0 with the personal pace on market place like brand new!! Only issue I see is setting the governor. (Over revving/bogging /hard starting). Looks like someone messed with the spring(s). Where would I find diagram and springs to set up the rpm properly? BTW love your channel!!
Hey Nancycaley! Awesome find! Perhaps you can find a manual online or take it to a local shop and see if they can help. Being that it’s an older model it’s a little tricky to find that information. Appreciate you my friend!
I love Personal Pace for working around lots of shrubs. I bought my first one in 2003. Still using it. That Tecumseh just keeps going. I have maintained it well.
Awesome my friend thanks for sharing
Hey! Thanks for the shout out! Great shop talk.
Uummm...Just noticed that its putting comments under my old UA-cam name! Same sticker, but old handle?? WEIRD! Anyhow, this is FLINT!
Hey Flint! I noticed that name a change a while back! I knew it was still you! You’re good! Thanks as always for being a cool fan since the beginning! 👍
Still using my 2010 Toro 22"recycler front wheel drive, runs like a dream, just regular maintenance each season and no problems, and only wear if any besides the front wheel wear, the Trailing Shield, is cut here and there from going backwards and got stuck and blade took a little bit of plastic, bag still good, chute good, overall 10/10, fresh paint under the deck as rust prevention. love my 190cc engine, carburetor strong as no plastic.
Thanks for sharing! You’ll get plenty of life out of that bad boy!
I have a Poulan pro 22 inch front wheel self propelled mulcher bagger side discharge with the 6hp from the early 2000s and it's a fantastic mower. It still runs and cuts like the day I got it, I do like you maintain all my equipment regularly. It still starts on the first pull. I never had the chance to use a Toro, they do seem like awesome mowers. That was super cool of you to give your Toro to him. Your a great guy JB!!! Love the content my friend.
Awesome that mower is still chopping away for you Gary! Tom is a cool guy! He’ll take good care of it! 👍 have a good weekend my friend!
I have a Toro 22 recycler 163cc .What I specially love about this mower is the quick and easy blue lever for mulch or bag.
Thanks for sharing! That’s an awesome thing!
Thanks for the stroll down memory lane. I've been using Toro mowers since the early 1990s. My experiences have been very similar to what was mentioned in this video. The best 21" mower Toro has made is the current commercial 21" series that first came out in 2014 and continues today. Equipped with either the commercial Kawasaki FJ180v or the Honda GXV160 engine, they are incredible mulchers and very good baggers' wet or dry. They are heavy due to the fact that they're built like tanks but very durable and efficient. The only problems I've had with them are:
1. When mulching damp/wet grass, it spits clippings behind the left front wheel. Then, your left rear wheel goes over those clippings and they get stuck on the rear left wheel. This then requires you to go back over those clumped clippings.
2. Cost...Boy have these commercial 21" gone up a lot in price the past few years. I live in Canada. A few years back, you could get a commercial 21" for $1500-$1800 depending on the model. Now, the same mowers are up around $2500-2700. That's double the price of the Super Recycler you have in the video.
I would love to my hand s on the one with Honda! Thanks for sharing these details Joe!
@@GarageGear No problem. The Super Recycler with the 190 ccc Briggs engine looks like a good one too.
I feel as if this video was talking to me directly! I have an 8 year old Craftsman push mower with a Briggs 163cc/7.25 engine. I know it's a "craftsman" and not up there with the high end mowers but it has really served me well. I have done all the things necessary to take care it. Here recently I had to replace the plastic carburetor and the front wheel assembly is starting to separate from the mower deck. I have thick St. Aug. and have been wanting to upgrade to a more top end mower. Since seeing the new Toro Super RecycIer I have been really leaning towards purchasing one but after watching this video plus others like it with the same views. I am having second thoughts, The Toro is definitely pricey and don't want to buy another mower for 8 more years!
But these days is anything built like things used to be(?)
Things are being made with less quality parts at outrageous price points.
Thank you for the video it was classic!👍🇨🇱
Thanks for checking out the video, Josh. See if you can nab one of these older machines. They will outlast anything that is made nowadays. I found mine on Facebook marketplace. You are absolutely correct nothing is made like it used to be.
Been watching your videos for a while now and found myself an older Toro Recycler 6.5hp with the classic self-propel drive handle today! Can't wait to mow my lawn with it later this week! Love the content!
That’s awesome Derek! You’re gonna have a blast mowing with it! Enjoy the mow!
Just picked up a 1996 super recycler with the bag for 20 bucks! Just needed the carb and fuel line replaced and its in similar condition to your 1999
Sweet deal Escort! Thank for sharing!
What a great conversation. Thanks for sharing. I bought a 2023 SR this year and so far so good. I have my old recycler in the shed still. I doubt I'll ever get rid of it
Keep that baby around! Thanks for sharing Jay!
My 1991 Toro Recycler has never had an oil change in its 32 years and it still starts from cold on the first pull. Suzuki 2-cycle for the Win!
Would love to have that machine! 👍
Awesome, but if it's a 2 cycle you never need to change the oil.
@@knighthawk86855 Do you even Blinker Fluid bro?
@@knighthawk86855 Actually, you "Change the oil" every time you mix up a new batch.
@@georgepruitt637 exactly.
Wow good timing and good timing. Some Toro experts just down the road from here in Rochester. Just getting around to a free find Toro GTS2 550. Again just starting to look at it but it has electric start(with dead battery of course). Manual choke lever and 3 drive speed levers. Looks like a Briggs engine and not that Suzuki thing they put in for a bit. I am sure I will be back here not only looking at your channel but will probably have a question or two for you and your neighbor with the Toro knowledge also. thx Tim
Hey Tim! Cool that you’re not far away and cool find! Any questions let us know!
This is the first video I've found on the super recycler.
I was just giving one of these mowers and still mine seems different than all of these.
Mine is an older 22" 6hp personal pace super recycler. It does have a primer bulb and does not have a choke. It has the chute made into the deck for the bag attachment. It doesn't have a side discharge made into the side of the deck. It doesnt have the bar for adjusting the cut height. Instead, it has an adjustment at each wheel and markings lettered ABCDE for the height.
I have two problems. 1 is that i can't figure out to open the chute to attach the bag. My 2nd problem is that reverse doesn't seem to work because i litterly have to drag the mower backward.
Im not sure of the year model. However, it does start easily and cuts great
@@LH-kz2nf hey LH! If you want to send me a picture of the mower and possibly the 5digit model number to my email in the video description perhaps I could help you out further. I can tell you though your personal pace cable is probably out of adjustment and not allowing you to back up.
Great video & information! Purchased our 2005 commercial recycler about 3 weeks ago & it cuts great, especially on our bermuda. Does well on mulching of our fescue too, but not a fan of the low max HOC. The mower is heavy & somewhat cumbersome if need to mow around obstacles, but becoming more adept on handling the mower. Still looking for a bag for our mower, but nothing yet, which may be a deal killer on keeping the mower. It is a beast & will mow just about anything w/o an issue. Like the guys said, if can find one of the older models & keep them in shape, then they should last even longer.
Thanks for sharing nibs!
Ah, you guys are fun! Haha, I just appreciate people having this kind of enthusiasm for well-made products. Like the old Toyota 22RE engines, where you would rebuild after 200,000mi, these old Toros are worthy of the same kind of love!
Absolutely my friend! Can’t beat those engines! Thanks for being a cool fan Paul!
The old Toyota and Honda car engines had factory oversize pistons and rings available from the dealer for rebuilding the bored-out engines with factory parts. The old Briggs 190cc engines did too. They were designed from the ground up to be rebuilt many times over.
Personal Pace to me has been a blessing on a hilly lot for the steep down hill parts. Uphill adjusted right could climb up a tree part way.
Yeah, without a doubt. Thanks for sharing!
I have an old Toro Super Recycler 21" residential personal pace with electric start.
Runs great, bag is new as it's never been used.
Needs new battery, maybe wheels. Last year it wouldn’t start, so I pulled the original plug and lightly sanded the electrode, blew out the air filter for the first time in about 10 years.
It started right up and is running great.
I have kept up on oil changes.
If I remember correctly, it cost around $770.00
Thanks for sharing six! 👍
nice to have that neighbor that has a lot of knowledge
He’s a heck of a guy! 👍
@@GarageGear You rule too fella.
@@victoryfirst2878 appreciate you my friend!
Great video, and a great transaction at the end. It's probably a relief to you that the mower will be in good hands. Now, me being a Snapper guy, i would suggest that if 1 of your local subscribers had a few Hi-Vacs and Ninja walk-behinds of various vintages, that could be another interesting one. You could really end up in the weeds with really old Snappers, where you might come across one with a 2-cycle Robin engine, or a Tecumseh engine that you haven't seen in a long time.
I’ll have to keep an eye out for those, Tom. Thanks for sharing and for watching.
Hi. I am at the point where I will need to purchase a new Toro super recycler 21 inch mower spring of 2025. Have you heard of any updates/ changes toro has made for their super recycler 21 inch for 2025 ?? My super recycler is just very shop worn. It's about 5 or 6 years old. I used to have a lawn business mowing 10 to 12 lawns a week. Mostly the height of cut pieces are busted up . And other little issues. Just does not mow easily. So hopefully 2025 model will be better than 2024? Please advise. Love your vids. Cheers
@@brodygoalie hey Brody! As far as I know no changes have been made. Appreciate you being a cool fan
You should be able to spin the eyelet around on your 97 so you can move pull rope back to the right side. Great videos, I highly enjoy them!!
Where there’s a will there’s a way! Appreciate you Mateo!
Thanks for your channel it is informative and helpful. I own a Toro SR4 model 20055. Bought it in 2005. It was one of the models that came with the mulch plug, bagger, and side discharge chute attachment. I still have all three. The rear sweep is cracked and needs to be replaced. I have not had to replace the belt yet, but I did have to clean the carb. It has been a great mower.
Thanks for sharing this! No doubt about it, you have yourself a rare fine!
I love my 2004 Toro Super Recycler. Aluminum deck, Briggs 6.5 HP.
Awesome my friend ! Great mower
The discharge shoot is free when you register the mower. Toro mails it to you.
@@melvinjacobs2328 yep it’s free if you register
I wish I can find those old mowers. When I started cutting lawns my first mower was one of those old super recyclers I believe was 19 years old when I got it. That mower I believe had the best cuts. I had it for a year when the gear finally went out and bought another new super recycler which was crap. I had to return and got me an hrx217. A good mower but I beleive doesnt cut as good as the old gts
They’re around! Just keep an eye out! 👍
My new super recycler gives a wonderful cut. And I like the quick change between chute, mulch and bag. I just can't get used to the personal pace drive system. It just doesn't work well for me.
The personal pace on the new mowers is awful! Thanks for sharing
My 20622 with the Suzuki 4 stroke starts first pull every time. Great machine.
Awesome machine you have there!
Good guy JB! Tom seemed very in his natural element talking about the Toros! Great video as always👍🏽
@@Three.5 he’s an awesome friend to have on the channel!
Got a 2003 super recycler with the personal pace. I think that was the last year they made them with that particular deck design. Great combination. Love the personal pace but love the older super recyclers.
Thanks for watching camom!
And yes. That rear discharge chute is almost impossible to find. Luckily was able to find mine on eBay. I personally don’t think they discharge that good like the more modern side discharge toros.
Ive commented before,my 2023 super recycler 163cc still sputters,and now blows black upon start up.im now being told all thats normal.$1000 mower i am not happy with.waiting for the honda stop sale to get figured out.my toro will go down the road.the worst mower ive owned to date.briggs and their plastic carbs can kick rocks,i am not confident at all the motor will hold up.great video JB,thats awesome getting an old school dude with ya to share experiences with!
You might want to try the new Ariens mower. perhaps it’s worth a look. Thanks for sharing your experience and I’m glad that you enjoyed the video.
What kind of gas are you using? I always run premium Shell gasoline (with Seafoam) with no ethanol if available in your area.
@@LL-mt2nz 91 non eth.i add 4oz of sea foam and 4oz of octane boost in a 5 gallon can.been doing this for years with all my small engine equipment.
@@StevenDBalboni That’s unfortunate. I just bought the 60v version of this mower. If you can cut your lawn in under an hour, I would switch to electric. And this is from someone who has been a gas Toro and Echo guy.
Quick question...been to few sites...when YOU mention regular maintenance on your machines..are you just talking about changing the oil and air filter when necessary, cleaning them up after a mow, sharpening the blades frequently. I just hear a few different opinions....what is regular maintenance mean to you on a lawn mower? LAST QUESTION....bought a nice size property...need a ride on mower...any recommendations? Toro seems ot be your brand. Thanks in advance to any and all replies
Yes, basic maintenance is what you covered. If you’re looking for a rider of any kind, I would look at John Deere. They hold their value, but you will pay $$ for them. Thanks for watching the channel.
I had a 1993 Super Recycler for 20 years and gave it to a friend when the drive cable broke. The new 2013 Recycler unfortunately came with plastic gears on the wheels that wear out eventually. After researching I changed to the wheels with metal gears but had to change the pinion gears to match the wheel gears. There’s still some gear slippage occasionally and I’ll probably have to replace the pinion gears or wheels or both eventually. I think in 2014 Toro changed back to metal gears in the wheels.
Thanks for sharing this LS!
This is what I think caused the wheel wear on all of these mowers. After doing this never had another problem. Still use mine with no wear at all on the plastic gears. ua-cam.com/video/RVK_po7BRZs/v-deo.html
I have a 2001 or 2002 recycler, I can’t remember should I go newer the one I have in good shape or should I get a new one to save that one because it runs good I love mine
Keep your old one if it’s running fine
Bought one in 2008, a year later the coil gave out, then some years later the gear on the rear wheel drive transmission stripped out, and no more self propelled, which seems to be a common problem. I really like the personal pace, but other than that found the mower no more, or less reliable than the craaftsman models I had. Also it had electric start, and the battery wouldn't hold a charge anymore, or the started crapped out.....can't remember. Also it had a key to start, just one, was a PITA making sure you didn't lose it.
Thanks for sharing this dwoodog!
I have the side discharge chute and use it on first time cuts that are usually tall
Awesome my friend! Those are rare!
The only time my 2023 toro super recycler revs is when it’s very low on gas and I’m going uphill. Otherwise non issue. Great mower and vid
Appreciate you bud. Thanks for watching.
@@GarageGear did you ever get toro to send over your side discharge chute after reg? I’m going on 2 months and haven’t received yet. Just gave them a call and apparently there’s a backlog they’re still working through
@@josephs.7496 got mine about 10 days after registering. I might have gotten the jump on this earlier than most I guess
I have two super recyclers a generation older than the one seen here
Good machines
I also have a two stroke toro and a comercial 22174 model all
Very well built
Those two strokes are gems!
I'm looking to replace a 93-0241-03 Toro blade with a high lift mulching blade. Any suggestions/recommendations?
Hey Aaron I hear lots of great things about Ballard blades might want to give them a look👍
I still have my rear bagger I got in 1989 21 inch GTS engine still starts on the first or second pull even after all winter storage. I use startron fuel stabilizer.
Awesome thanks for sharing!
Enjoyed the conversation. Thanks JB.
Appreciate you my friend! 👍
11:25 I have 3 of them. One with electric start and I just bought the key. All 5.5HP models. Gonna make it a walk behind with a trailer. Self propelled will be electric hybrid now.
Thanks for sharing Andrew!
My right rear wheel spins very fast when mowing but not on pavement. Please advise on how i can fix this problem with my right rear wheel. Thanks!!
Have you check your transmission or wheel gears Brody?
I guess Will need to bring into my local small engine place to look at this and mention the verbiage you have said. Thanks
Toro Super Recycler SR4 model 20057 won't start when engine is hot , and sometimes I hear a screeming noise for a few seconds when it starting. Any clues what is going on ?
Thanks
Might have to replace your magneto that should fix your overheating issue. Not sure about the noise though
Those super recycler have been around the block a few times and still ticking.. i bought the 2022 Model with the 163cc and it runs good had to adjust the drive cable so it's more aggressive as i got a lumpy back yard and hilly side yard 7 and 15 degrees i didn't like the Honda thumb control as the yard is lumpy i couldn't keep the speed control consistent.. the Toro just push it and it works good plus i prefer the aluminum deck and bigger wheels plus it very fuel efficient .. ethonal free fuel sucked out the fuel for winter.. fired up on the first pull this spring
Thanks for sharing Joe!
Great Video, I have modded my hrn216 to race in the local road racing club championship. Installed clipons, akrapovic exhaust and tie wired the blades bolts to pass tech inspection.
Looking for some small tire warmers and paddock stands for it.
Awesome my friend! Very cool!
Personal pace for the win! LOVE mine!
It’s a good set up!
I have a 2001 or 2002 recycler, I can’t remember should I go newer the one I have in good shape or should I get a new one to save that one because it runs good
@@CodyCanon-l1n if your old one is running fine I would just keep using that one
Great conversation. Got it, old machines better. But what should a new homeowner buy today?
Hey Kyle a new homeowner should probably grab a remaining Honda mower or consider a gently used Honda or older toro!
I find them all time and the old ones still sell good! Anyone in New Hampshire area looking for one or any parts let me know
@@motorheadproductions88 ROCK ON my friend!
@@GarageGear you too brother!
Just picked up a toro super recycler like the first one in the video for free, it may need a tune-up but it runs an it does what it supposed to do
Awesome ! Sweet find!
Please do a video on the side discharge chute for the super recycler!
If I can get my hands on one we’ll do it! 👍
Awesome Vid JB!! HOPE All is Well!!
Appreciate you parabola! All is good here my friend! How about you?
@@GarageGear I got an Oil Leak to Deal with!! And she never threw any snow!! Lol next week ill be tackling that, ya may see a post from me for sos. Hopefully its just a gasket/seal or line but not Too far into the engine.
Ya doing any runs or vacationing this summer man ya need a break!
@@Parabola_PJ we’ll see about some runs possibly. Maybe some day trips here and there around. Well see! Let me know if you need some help my friend! 👍
@@GarageGear will do!! Youre The Expert!! Make Some Merch!!
@@Parabola_PJ I did make some merch in the past but no one really wanted them. Only a couple of takers. There should be links below the video to some shirts/hoodies though!
I have a 20092 personnel pace superrecyler with aluminum deck. 15yrs old , wouldn’t trade it for anything!
@@marklandry3709 hold onto those older ones
We still have a Super Recycler my father bought in the late 90's, looks just like the one at 1:49, I replaced a bunch of parts on it around 2010 (carb rebuild, air filter, spark plug, fuel line, primer bulb, wobbly front wheel, and self propel belt), it still works perfectly.
Keep that mower rolling my friend! Can’t beat em’!
I've sold two of these old school Super Recyclers this summer. I wish I had the space to keep one, the build quality of them is top notch and can't be found in a consumer grade mower.
Quality that can’t be beat! Thanks for sharing supernoma!
Tom - that same video JB posted of the Arien's snow blower brought me to Garage Gear as well....and made me stay. Like Christmas morning now each time he uploads a new video. Hit that LIKE button dear friends. Would somebody out there please offer JB his own talk show/podcast. A man of many talents.
Wow that’s funny that video brought both of you by the channel! Appreciate you Joe! We’ll see what the future brings!
I have my 96 Commercial 22151 and still starts on the first pull. With all options I paid $1100. All I have replaced is the coil. With Blade Brake Clutch it weighs 110 lbs.
Bet it mows like a dream!
I just stumbled across your video, small world you guys are in buffalo, im just over the border in Niagara! Great video!
Thanks for watching, neighbor!
I have a 22177 and still running strong as ever ,
@@miguelfineza9093 the just run and run and run! 👍
I'm not a fan of the personal pace. Mine push is a Honda. The John Deere x720 with power flow is my go to, 15 minutes driving easy and under 10 when I'm in a hurry. Great video, marketplace here I come.
Awesome, man! I hope you can find one. They are definitely worth the buy.
I have a toro commercial 2 cycle aluminium side discharge deck. Just wondering how rare that deck is? Gave $10 for it a couple months ago, runs need adjustment, an air filter cover and a drive wheel gear which has worn out.
That’s an oldie! Can you find the parts for it?
@@GarageGear no not in my area, going to have to look online and pay shipping unfortunately. That’s if I can find it in the first place.
Since I’ve owned my current house….1997, I’ve only used Super Recyclers. I’m on my third one….not because they needed to be replaced, but every 10 years or so, I like getting the newest tech. My only complaint with my current one from 2019 is that changing the mowing height can be difficult.
Thanks for sharing David!
I had 4 toro sr4. I acquired. Used 1 for parts fix 3 1 with blade clutch sold the guy had one with out that feature wanted it. Other 2 1 has quantom other tcl china engine. Hope they sell they are personal pace. I used the one with cracked deck for parts to replase rear wheel adjusters that were wore out from no grease. Could push front of drive wheels in front about a inch. Bushings wore out
Thanks for sharing Mike!
I like your idea of moving pull rope to the left side. I will do the same. On my 2016 Personal Pace Super Recycler, I just replaced the Recoil/Blower Shroud because the rope wore through the metal ring and caused a notch to appear in the plastic housing. The rope would catch in the notch and get stuck. The shroud cost $55.22 + tax. Thankfully it was less than a 5 minute fix. And also it includes a new rope and coil installed so that has been replaced before it actually broke. My father and uncle have had two different Toro dealerships throughout my life. I’m 48 years old now and since I was a little kid I have been fortunate to have all Toro lawnmowers except only two. (1) MTD, (1) Craftsman (3) Toro. I’ll never own anything but Toro for the rest of my life. Thanks for your content and channel. - Brett, South Dakota.
Awesome Brett! Moving it to the other side can save your rope. You can also find the entire recoil housing for for a decent price on eBay. Just match up the model number! Thanks for being a cool fan!
Great video!! I bought a super recycler new in1998 and am still using it to cut my grass today. What an awesome machine. I'm thinking of getting a new mower. I cant decided between a super recycler or toro commercial 21" with the kohler engine.
Hey my friend! I would go for the commercial model! Thanks for watching!
I actually bought a Toro rear side discharge/bagger back in the 80s and used to mow ALOT of yards.
I pretty much used it till the engine went bad. Still have it, body is in good shape, but does not run.
I thought many a time about getting new engine put on it, just never did it.
Thanks for sharing!👍
I have a 21” commercial unit just like your ‘04, but slightly older (engine is different). Everything else on is just about identical. Any idea why my single bail “neutral” setting isn’t working? Basically I can’t let the handle halfway down to neutral the trans/wheels for turns. It stays in drive until you let it down too far and it shuts off. Is there an adjustment I’m missing?
Ok there is an adjustment knob on the back right above the transmission perhaps you need to spin that left or right a couple of turns to adjust it to where it needs to be. Give it a shot and let me know how it works out for you!
Wow! What a wealth of knowledge from Tom! He must live in our neck of the woods JB. Giving an heirloom to a new home knowing it will be well cared for is very kind of you! Excellent video JB. Cheers my friend!
Super knowledgeable guy! Better to send it home with him than some Craigslist knucklehead that will destroy it! Thanks for watching another my friend!
I try to watch them all! Even some old ones. Cheers bud!
@@jaybooth4815 you can get lost down that rabbit hole lol!
@@GarageGear yeah but it's worth the fall down it! 👍
I do all my own maintenance on the ones I have great video
Appreciate you George! Thanks for sharing!
I loved the video and went on market place looking for a aluminum decked Toro after this video. Ended up buying a Older silver Johk Deere 14SE aluminum deck, rwd, bagger, kawasaki engine and it stripes like a dream! Runs super smooth and quiet!
You my friend have found an absolute gem! Never get rid of that mower! Those were some of the best mowers ever built!
@@GarageGear That's awesome to hear 😀 I love it so far I did already order a mulch plug for it. I do enjoy the mower and the build quality on it.
The pull rope on my Toro GTS5 6.0 broke last week. I bought a new handle/rope and went to replace the rope, but how to get to where the rope attaches is a bit of a mystery. It looks like my fly wheel housing is riveted down. Any help you can provide is appreciated.
Perhaps this video can give you some guidance. HOW TO FIX A BROKEN RECOIL STARTER ROPE ON A TORO SUPER RECYCLER
ua-cam.com/video/vBQ1PAA1k_E/v-deo.html
I have that rear discharge chute for those older super recyclers and you’re right they are impossible to find and pretty pricey if you do find one. I think I paid $90 for it. Personally I don’t think they discharge that good and can easily clog if the grass super long. I would suggest getting the newer one that actually have a side discharge.
@@camom494 thanks for sharing camom!
Great review of the Toro lineup... Any plans for looking at the Honda lineup past and present. What is worth investing in on 2024?
Thanks gearhead! Love the idea but I only have access to two newer Hondas at the moment. Gonna have to get my hands on some old stuff.
hi there, i have a toro recycler 600 GTS and cannot find anywhere what oil spec i must buy, i need your help plz
What’s your specific model number?
@@GarageGear hello, damn i have no idea, i will try to check tomorrow, cuz by tipping "600 gts briggs" i dont find anything. I post model after i ve checked it , thx for your answer
Bonus video, nice! 👍. Thanks to Tom for bringing his Toro mower knowledge.
Tom knew a lot about these mowers! Crazy amount of knowledge! Thanks for watching Smallblock! Happy Friday bud!
Interesting video! Thanks for posting it.
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
I just found a 1998 super recycler in the trash and its in the same shape as the 99 in the video only thing that was wong with it was a broken recoil rope and a plugged air filter. Runs and cuts amazing
What a score! Thanks for sharing Justin!
Great review! In 2023 I can’t think of a better mower than the Super Recycler. I bought one too and it is superior to anything else in the market.
Great machine! Thanks for watching!
My dad has a Toro with a cast aluminum deck and Tecumseh engine. No joke it’s almost 40 if not 40 years old. Not one problem yet. Original parts still cutting grass with just sharpening the blade. Still has the original red plastic bagger and wire mesh leaf mulch kit.
Wow thanks for sharing Mike!
I have one with the side chute.
@@derekhaywood1844 you have a gem my friend
I have one of those side discharge chutes lol on my 1992 toro GTS 5 lt has a Suzuki 4 stroke I also have 7 lawn boys 1977 being oldest all run great
That is awesome Brad! Thank you for sharing!
Update: ((optional add on) Toro part number 144-6377 traction assist handle kit) does fit all new Toro mowers that have the new baby carriage curved shape.
IMO you could make your own Toro's BTAH (Black Traction Assist Handle) from 2 pieces of wood in ((L) shape) and some bolts and washers.
Toro's BTAH converts Toro's PPM (Personal Pace Mowers) (which requires a person to push Toro's heavy mower forward before the self-propelled drive kicks in) to ((easily without effort) controlling Toro's self-propelled drive with just your fingers and hands without moving forward).
This is needed on steep hills where you need the Toro mower to pull you and this powerful mower up the hill without any effort on your part.
The powerful Toro mower can do this only with BTAH and not by Toro's PPM (extra exercise mode).
Without BTAH you end up pushing this heavy Toro mower up the hill.
Thank you for your help and understanding on this Toro (back breaking) mower issue.
@@AAa-qd8hb thanks for sharing
Hey I was thinking about getting a Simplicity Coronet riding mower. I've never heard of them until I started doing some digging, any thought on them?
I’d have to research them a bit too but simplicity does make decent snowblowers though!
@@GarageGear if I get it, and you want to make a video on it, I'm in Buffalo.
@@ItsLRivera I’ll let you know my friend! Appreciate you! 👍
Love your show…keep up the great work!👍
Appreciate you Alfredo!👍
Nice video! You need to get someone with a nice Lawn-Boy collection! I have a few Including a model 10550 with Easy Stride. It’s like personal pace but not a baby stroller. Haha. Nice stuff.
Thanks for watching, my friend! Nobody wants to mow the lawn with the baby stroller. Lol
I have a 6.75 model 20051. It has not started without a fight since I had it tuned in a shop. I just realized it needs a prime bulb. Can’t find one anywhere !There has to an after market part. I even went t to a dealer and was brushed off. I’m a small woman and the electric start is a necessity for me.
Hey Elaine! If it has a primer typically they’re important for start up even with an electric start! Is your model a two cycle?
If the primer is intact but isn't working it might a bigger issue.... The air filter holder can be twisted & removed, try & see if gas sprays up with the air filter removed. Partstree #640259 for the primer $9.00 +shipping.
@@twocyclesmoke it’s working great now. Thanks for the help!
I just picked up a commercial model with the Suzuki 2 cycle engine. Excited to get that one going.
I don’t know if you’ve ever seen one, but a Super Recycler (2000 model) with a Kawasaki engine and personal pace popped up in my area! It’s got a special paint job that was only offered on these limited run models and also a 10 year warranty. Only $60 but the drive doesn’t work. Should I go for it?
For $60 I would go for it! Could be worth it!
@@GarageGear Provably will! In your opinion what’s a better cutting deck the Toro commercial model deck or the John Deere JX75 style deck? From your experience which gives a better cut?
@@ChicagoSirens for mulching I would say the toro deck. But for bagging I would say the Deere! 👍
@@GarageGear How would the Honda HRR/HRC deck compare to those? Sorry for asking so many questions lol
@@ChicagoSirens honda has always made a great mower great mulchers and baggers.
Straight handle is better with blue traction assist handle
Agreed!
Have a question for you and Tom. I have a Toro Super Recycler model 20437, think it’s a 1994. The field mice got to the grass bag during the winter and chewed it up. Went looking for a replacement and can’t find one. Is there a bag I could purchase and using my current frame install it on? Another option would be a mesh material and sew it on?
I would keep an eye on eBay! I’ve seen them pop up from time to time.
Hi just picked up a Toro SR4 from a yard sale. My problem is it has no model or serial number. Believe I checked all over. It does have a tag on the engine itself. It was built in 2013 november. It is a 163cc. Do you have any idea what model this would be?
@@jameslyman1377 no I don’t. Sometimes toro puts the model number under the clipping flap on the back.
What about the Toro electric?! I’m thinking of getting one, shud I?? I’m in Buffalo, may have a parts mower for u if interested.
Hey James! The build quality on the toro electric models is not any better or even worse in some ways than the new toro gas models. I would avoid em’! What kind of parts mower do you have?
@@GarageGear Hey man so I have a well cared for Toro 20332 if you’d like it? I was gonna put a new carb on it, might need a cpl other things but don’t think it’d take much to get her running well again. Have a striping kit for it. Also have a Husqvarna blower, Echo string trimmer that u cud prob get running w minimal effort. Have more as well but wud need to get a new (electric) string trimmer and blower before getting rid of them. Lmk if you’re interested, basically u come get the stuff it’s yours. I’m in Amherst not sure what the best way to exchange contact info wud be. Let me know man!
Hey man lmk sooner than later if you’re interested bc I don’t have any extra storage. If you’re not interested maybe you know someone that would be. Thank you lmk! 💪🏾👍🏾
@@James-blond007 hey James! Sorry for the delay. I’ll have to pass at this time because I have way too many projects going on the garage as we speak and more to come! Thank you very much for the offer though! 👍👍
Ok. Ego is much better than expected! Cudnt pay me to go back to a Toro gas mower.
what's your opinion on a 20018 toro 22 inch recycler with a tecumseh engine ??
Hey Moises! Honest opinion… loads of engine issues I’ve seen over the years and the decks rot out fast. Had a handful of those in the garage. Gave up fixing them and just started ripping them down for parts! Thanks for watching!
Awesome vid, JB! Tom knows his stuff!!
And as a Downstate Giants fan......... January 27th 1991:
WIDE RIGHT!! Giants 20, Bills 19.
You can ban me now, JB. Lol
You ain’t going nowhere, Paul! You’re the man. We can still be friends. Lol
Hi JB after watching you and Tom talk about the super recycler trailing shield I made an upgrade to my 2022 Toro 21564 like the one you have. I bought a Toro Time Master trailing shield part 120-6241 and with a couple of mods with a razor knife I have a great trailing shield.
Awesome! Does it get hung up under the deck?
@@GarageGear I used it once so far and it didn't go under the deck, fingers crossed 🤞
The transmission gears in my Toro Recycler kept failing.
Was something in there ruining them?
@GarageGear
No, and the first time it went out, when I took it a lawnmower repair shop there were others like it there with the same issue. It cost $100 to repair and after it failed in another 8 months or so I bought the repair kit online for $35 and fixed it myself, but the problem was that the gears appeared to be stamped out of sheet metal, and that one failed as well. I bought a Honda about 6 or 7 years ago, and it's been as reliable as a hammer.
@@billpinkston1464 Honda mowers for the win! Thanks for sharing bill
I just found a commercial toro 22164 PT 21 Trim mower with personal pace and Kawasaki mower that’s just about showroom condition
Awesome! Enjoy the mow with it!
Buffalo NY? Im right outside Syracuse. I have the Toro 22" Recycler with the Honda Motor, bought it brand new in 2020 and mine came with the side discharge. Best motor I have used in any push mower, bulletproof. Great stuff!
Awesome Giuseppe! Not too far away! Great engine! Thanks for sharing
What are the details behind the class action lawsuit in the 90s that he mentioned? Didn’t quite catch that
I’ll have to get more info on that I want to know more about it too!
I have a super recycler bag just like that one shown for the 2004 commercial mower. I never use it. Sounds like it's worth some money. I am open to selling it.
If anyone needs one this is a good place to sell it!
Great video! As per your suggestion I just found Super Recycler GTS 6.0 with the personal pace on market place like brand new!! Only issue I see is setting the governor. (Over revving/bogging /hard starting). Looks like someone messed with the spring(s). Where would I find diagram and springs to set up the rpm properly? BTW love your channel!!
Hey Nancycaley! Awesome find! Perhaps you can find a manual online or take it to a local shop and see if they can help. Being that it’s an older model it’s a little tricky to find that information. Appreciate you my friend!