I absolutely love the look of all Porsche 928's. I believe it's the most beautiful car in the world. Unfortunately too many owners didn't take good care of them. I still hope to own one some day. Thank you.
I own three. Even the nicest cars that have not been maintained by a fastidious owner over the years will cost $10K in parts alone without any cosmetics. That said, they are fabulous cars and it's a "labor of love" for me.
Really don't want to be a downer. But when you say gaskets on the autobox, where is it leaking from? Mine had various leaks but the major one was a drip when running through the metal grid on the torque convertor. To fix that you have to remove the trans, then at that point you might as well dismantle and rebuild the box. All the internal seals, o'rings etc will be hardened and the friction material is very likely to be badly worn. Mine drove okish except for the leak, but when stripped down was clearly pretty worn out. All those parts even if like me you do it yourself, very quickly adds up to 2K euros.
Yeah, it drove good and shifted well when I had the fluid topped off. It is only leaking from the torque converter area (metal grid). I know the "while you have the transmission out" rabbit hole is easy to go down, but I wasn't planning to do a full rebuild. The transmission works, so I think we will do what we have to do to keep the fluid in it and enjoy driving it. We will have practice if we have to drop the transmission again in the future.
I have the exact same car. My transmission is an A28 which has the internals of the Mercedes 722.3 and it was leaking as yours is. I was told by my Porsche indy mechanic that when that seal goes, you might as well rebuild it if it has not been rebuilt yet. I had him remove and replace the transmission and it was sent to a Mercedes expert for rebuilding. The rubber kit was put in (all rubber components replaced), filter replaced, ATF lines rebuilt and two bands were replaced. All in it cost $5500 for that service about 2-years ago. It doesn't leak anymore and it runs as good as new.
@@bongotube888 agree that would be the ideal way to go. Have to think it through and decide what to do. May come down to how we struggle and curse to get the trans out.
It isn't too difficult of a job to take the trans out, but you do have to remove the entire rear suspension first. So quite a long job and the suspension really needs alignment afterwards. The drip from the TC grid is very likely the front pump o'ring, and yes that itself is just a few dollars. It does depend on how long you intend to keep the car, if as per the video you're thinking of selling it on "when finished" it's probably not financially worthwhile rebuilding the entire box. You'll never recoup that in a sale. If you wanted to keep the car, I'd deffo do it. Not least because decent parts are getting harder and harder to find for those boxes even though the guts are Merc 722.3. Many of the parts are NLA from Merc and the aftermarket quality is hit and miss.
Yeah, I never did replace those and I also need to pull the alternator off to replace the voltage regulator. This is also a smaller task I can do while I continue to procrastinate dropping the trans-axil to replace torque converter/pump seals.
One more thing, I hate to say this but that car will struggle to sell for $10k. Just being real here. People who aren't familiar with 928s overestimate their value and they end up sitting for sale for YEARS. I've seen better 928s than yours, manual, not sell for $14k. It's been sitting on CL, Offerup for 5 years. Just reality man I hate to be the bearer of bad news
We do like the car and enjoy driving it. That said, we also hope to have a profitable (or at least breakeven) auction experience. If it doesn't meet reserve, then we will definitely enjoy driving it. We also don't know if the "Magnus Walker" signature on the dash will help the value. Kind of a wild car whether people care about that or not. He is a big name in the Porsche community, but probably won't add any value. Plan to enjoy the auction experience and see how things work out.
@@C3KPaddock nice man! I didn’t see the Magnus signature but I doubt that will add any value. Maybe BaT is the way to go bc there’s a US ‘80 automatic with a lot of time left and it’s already at $13.5k! 35xxx miles though. I wish people appreciated how good these cars are.
I bought an 88 S4. I did 90% my own work and I have about 10k in repairs. Love driving it,but I am probably 5k underwater. That might sound bad but remember I have a running driving 5 speed that I have been driving regularly for the past 6 years. 5k in the hole for 6 years of semi daily smiles? I would not trade it. What would the depreciation on a 5 year old 25k car be worth that is now 11 years old?
@@TomMarquis66 Exactly!! It isn't always about the money. "Experiences" are often worth more than money. My son and I are enjoying the repair process and learning with every repair. Building memories!
Its too bad the signature isnt on the glovebox or something more easily removeable. The signature might not increase the price of the car but if the signature was on a sun visor or something you could sell it seperately abd just replace the part with a non-signed one.
928 has great community of knowledgeable owners and people who make and sell parts. I had my 928S's MAF rebuilt in another country thousands of km away by a guy who does this as a hobby, he tested it on his own car before sending it back. Parts prices are not that bad, at least here in Europe where there's many sellers, no need to buy anything from Porsche, though I let them change coolant pump and belt, both of which I bought elsewhere, that job cost me 500 euros. Hengst fuel filter was 12 euros, your part prices seem kinda high to me.
We haven't purchased any parts directly from Porsche. All out parts have come from "FCP EURO" and "928sRUS" websites. The parts due seem a little cheaper in Europe, but the shipping time and cost would counteract the savings. I'll definitely take any advise you have on where to get quality parts cheapest.
@@C3KPaddock I wrote long comment with names of places where I got spares from and it would not appear here, because YT thinks links, even in obscured form are ads? Just some names of places: partworks (they have also ebay shop and ship worldwide), rosepassion, design911, autodoc
Don't forget..... timing belt, water pump, pullys, tensioner, fuel lines, vacuum lines, and so on....... remember, these cars are 40 plus years old. I'm restoring a 78 euro right now, and know what the costs are. There's a reason these cars are so cheap, it's because the maintenance cost can put you upside down in a hurry, which is why a lot of people get rid of them...... good luck with this one!
The good news is that the only piece of maintenance paperwork that came with the car was a timing belt job, completed by a shop about 10K miles and 4 years ago. Otherwise, we definitely would have to do that too. Crossing my fingers that we don't develop a vacuum or fuel leak. The lines look pretty good on this car. We will get it to a good usable point and the next owner can carry on from there with keeping her going. You are never really done with an old car unless you do a full restoration.
Just make sure you take care of the fuel lines, and power steering lines, otherwise you'll have a inferno....... price wise... Maybe 10-12k selling price, tops! Unfortunately, these cars still aren't bringing the money they should. Prices are on the rise, but very, very slow. Keep in mind, this is a U.S spec. auto.....not as desirable as a Euro spec 5-speed . But I do like it, and good luck with selling it!!
I absolutely love the look of all Porsche 928's. I believe it's the most beautiful car in the world. Unfortunately too many owners didn't take good care of them. I still hope to own one some day. Thank you.
We love the look too! We also like that it is a great blend of an American Muscle style V8 powertrain, European styling, and German engineering.
I own three. Even the nicest cars that have not been maintained by a fastidious owner over the years will cost $10K in parts alone without any cosmetics. That said, they are fabulous cars and it's a "labor of love" for me.
Really don't want to be a downer. But when you say gaskets on the autobox, where is it leaking from? Mine had various leaks but the major one was a drip when running through the metal grid on the torque convertor. To fix that you have to remove the trans, then at that point you might as well dismantle and rebuild the box. All the internal seals, o'rings etc will be hardened and the friction material is very likely to be badly worn. Mine drove okish except for the leak, but when stripped down was clearly pretty worn out. All those parts even if like me you do it yourself, very quickly adds up to 2K euros.
Yeah, it drove good and shifted well when I had the fluid topped off. It is only leaking from the torque converter area (metal grid). I know the "while you have the transmission out" rabbit hole is easy to go down, but I wasn't planning to do a full rebuild. The transmission works, so I think we will do what we have to do to keep the fluid in it and enjoy driving it. We will have practice if we have to drop the transmission again in the future.
I have the exact same car. My transmission is an A28 which has the internals of the Mercedes 722.3 and it was leaking as yours is. I was told by my Porsche indy mechanic that when that seal goes, you might as well rebuild it if it has not been rebuilt yet. I had him remove and replace the transmission and it was sent to a Mercedes expert for rebuilding. The rubber kit was put in (all rubber components replaced), filter replaced, ATF lines rebuilt and two bands were replaced. All in it cost $5500 for that service about 2-years ago. It doesn't leak anymore and it runs as good as new.
@@bongotube888 agree that would be the ideal way to go. Have to think it through and decide what to do. May come down to how we struggle and curse to get the trans out.
It isn't too difficult of a job to take the trans out, but you do have to remove the entire rear suspension first. So quite a long job and the suspension really needs alignment afterwards. The drip from the TC grid is very likely the front pump o'ring, and yes that itself is just a few dollars. It does depend on how long you intend to keep the car, if as per the video you're thinking of selling it on "when finished" it's probably not financially worthwhile rebuilding the entire box. You'll never recoup that in a sale. If you wanted to keep the car, I'd deffo do it. Not least because decent parts are getting harder and harder to find for those boxes even though the guts are Merc 722.3. Many of the parts are NLA from Merc and the aftermarket quality is hit and miss.
Can you do a video on replacing the acessory belts?
Yeah, I never did replace those and I also need to pull the alternator off to replace the voltage regulator. This is also a smaller task I can do while I continue to procrastinate dropping the trans-axil to replace torque converter/pump seals.
Total the estimated repairs and double it and you will be close.
One more thing, I hate to say this but that car will struggle to sell for $10k. Just being real here. People who aren't familiar with 928s overestimate their value and they end up sitting for sale for YEARS. I've seen better 928s than yours, manual, not sell for $14k. It's been sitting on CL, Offerup for 5 years. Just reality man I hate to be the bearer of bad news
We do like the car and enjoy driving it. That said, we also hope to have a profitable (or at least breakeven) auction experience. If it doesn't meet reserve, then we will definitely enjoy driving it. We also don't know if the "Magnus Walker" signature on the dash will help the value. Kind of a wild car whether people care about that or not. He is a big name in the Porsche community, but probably won't add any value. Plan to enjoy the auction experience and see how things work out.
@@C3KPaddock nice man! I didn’t see the Magnus signature but I doubt that will add any value. Maybe BaT is the way to go bc there’s a US ‘80 automatic with a lot of time left and it’s already at $13.5k! 35xxx miles though. I wish people appreciated how good these cars are.
I bought an 88 S4. I did 90% my own work and I have about 10k in repairs. Love driving it,but I am probably 5k underwater. That might sound bad but remember I have a running driving 5 speed that I have been driving regularly for the past 6 years. 5k in the hole for 6 years of semi daily smiles? I would not trade it. What would the depreciation on a 5 year old 25k car be worth that is now 11 years old?
@@TomMarquis66 Exactly!! It isn't always about the money. "Experiences" are often worth more than money. My son and I are enjoying the repair process and learning with every repair. Building memories!
Its too bad the signature isnt on the glovebox or something more easily removeable. The signature might not increase the price of the car but if the signature was on a sun visor or something you could sell it seperately abd just replace the part with a non-signed one.
928 has great community of knowledgeable owners and people who make and sell parts. I had my 928S's MAF rebuilt in another country thousands of km away by a guy who does this as a hobby, he tested it on his own car before sending it back. Parts prices are not that bad, at least here in Europe where there's many sellers, no need to buy anything from Porsche, though I let them change coolant pump and belt, both of which I bought elsewhere, that job cost me 500 euros. Hengst fuel filter was 12 euros, your part prices seem kinda high to me.
We haven't purchased any parts directly from Porsche. All out parts have come from "FCP EURO" and "928sRUS" websites. The parts due seem a little cheaper in Europe, but the shipping time and cost would counteract the savings.
I'll definitely take any advise you have on where to get quality parts cheapest.
@@C3KPaddock I wrote long comment with names of places where I got spares from and it would not appear here, because YT thinks links, even in obscured form are ads? Just some names of places: partworks (they have also ebay shop and ship worldwide), rosepassion, design911, autodoc
Don't forget..... timing belt, water pump, pullys, tensioner, fuel lines, vacuum lines, and so on....... remember, these cars are 40 plus years old. I'm restoring a 78 euro right now, and know what the costs are. There's a reason these cars are so cheap, it's because the maintenance cost can put you upside down in a hurry, which is why a lot of people get rid of them...... good luck with this one!
The good news is that the only piece of maintenance paperwork that came with the car was a timing belt job, completed by a shop about 10K miles and 4 years ago. Otherwise, we definitely would have to do that too.
Crossing my fingers that we don't develop a vacuum or fuel leak. The lines look pretty good on this car.
We will get it to a good usable point and the next owner can carry on from there with keeping her going. You are never really done with an old car unless you do a full restoration.
Just make sure you take care of the fuel lines, and power steering lines, otherwise you'll have a inferno....... price wise... Maybe 10-12k selling price, tops! Unfortunately, these cars still aren't bringing the money they should. Prices are on the rise, but very, very slow. Keep in mind, this is a U.S spec. auto.....not as desirable as a Euro spec 5-speed . But I do like it, and good luck with selling it!!
@@gordonno11 Thank you!
Just under 90$ a day over a year for a soon to be classic
"Promo SM"
Why don't you say what the car cost / Lame
What, you don't like mystery?
All things German end up being a Nazi liability, lol.