Love it,I have been flying rubber scale models with micro radio control now for some years,some with rudder only,they are real fun to fly on my cabbage patch at the back of my garden. Thats why I like this channel you are always prepared to accept technology and experiment rather than be a a stuck in the mud grumpy old purist ! use what is available to us I say,and that lovely model is enhanced with those two simple controls and less chance of getting it stuck in trees too.
Hi Josh, rc rubber has fascinated me for a long time but I have never done it. I have been following domoremath for several years and the flights he gets from a playingfield in the city amongst the skyscrapers have to be seen to be believed. He even put a camera onboard for some flights.
Just received mine from you yesterday. So nice receiving it so fast. The first one I ordered from overseas and it took forever to arrive. I lost that one in a thermal so I'm modding this new one with rc. Thanks for the fast shipment.
It is a game changer. I would do this with as many models as you can. There was a lot more open land in the early 20's, 30's than there is now. This does solve this problem. It solves a lot of problems. This will GROW your business. Keep it up!
Do you get excited to see more people doing FF? i was at my hobby shop yesterday getting some stuff for my current project, a large scale control line to electric rc, but i saw a dude around my age with his son about the age of my son, going thru all the FF kits, i should have struck up a conversation. But that was the 1st person in my area i saw even looking at the kits!! The store tells me im the 1st in about 6 years and the last guy was pushing 90, they think he died....😢 but i was happy to see someone else. I knew there had to be another as some kits have moved there, and not by me! I actually prefer the vintage kits, more work cutting everything out, but much better wood
Marty Jeruzal just be careful that the winding hook doesn't pull out of the chuck. Best method is to actually drill through the shaft and insert the winding hook that way.
just finished a Rado Cizek XL in RC(same gear you use) going to start with 16 strands 1/8 I also have 2 Sky Voyagers Thanks for your Vids good info Josh
No, rubber- R/C assist is not at all like having a dethermalizer. It's a way to control where the model goes. No more at the " mercy" of the wind. No more long hikes after every flight. No more in the trees. No more lost models. You can fly it to your hand. Also, you can seek thermals, and get it back. If it does get into nice thermal, you can stay there as long as you want, fly it out and bring it down when you want to (before it gets lost). I just ordered one of these and I'm gonna do the R/C thing with it and enjoy myself.
Need a electric winder to speed things up a absolute must have... the work rate to fun ratio is too close. A 3rd servo to control a geared / brake system to extend run time / control climb rate and allow larger dia. props for more efficient climb per revolution to extend flight times. Less winding more flying. Need dual rubber tubes within the master tube to have more rubber duration. Rear section has a roller system to allow the rubber to move and stretch during the wind up phase. Everything above will get you more folks interested. Front gear box can have a plastic piston / cylinder fake motor that reciprocates to create a motor sound for vintage FF effect.
AmpAbuser electric winders are crap. Use one and you'll see why. They're weak and give no feedback of what the motor is doing. As I mentioned in detail in the video, that winder is a 3.5:1 designed for BIG airplanes. I don't have a 10:1 that is suitable for that size of rubber...it would take about 1/4 as long to wind with such a winder.
That’s a nice setup there. Certainly a good flier. I’ve been wanting to do an RC rubber model for some time now. After seeing this great success, I might just try my hand. :)
Pretty cool. This is a growing type. There's another guy that has a LOT of old-time Rubber planes with R/C, who flies in an Astro Turf park in what looks like downtown Manhattan. it's "domoremath." Very informative.
kazuma drewsin it does fly remarkably well. I want to put a small brushless motor on one eventually. The manufacturer actually makes an electric version that looks pretty interesting.
I've been wondering about the possibility if this kind of set up for a while. I've already looked at the P1B1 as a potential platform, and this conversion has a few ideas you've pointed out that I hadn't thought of. May well give this a go!
I live on the east coast near a big metro area. So not a lot of big fields. I’ve always had a project in the back of my head to build a Satelite 1100 with a screaming Rossi 60. However I would loose it on the first flight even with a DT. So my thought was a mini RC pack with a rudder tab and a second channel for the DT. So fly it back and release the DT.
Man, you guys have so many beautiful products on your website. It is a pity that shipping cost to Brazil is so high, it makes it impossible for us to buy :-(
Do you have a teaching for making Tower and Piston Launchers...if you sold them for 13mm through 24mm motors for Rocketry competition you wouldn't be able to keep them on the shelf ...?
Just recently subscribed, great videos concerning the intricacies involved in adjusting the many variables that affect the path of flight. Hope did a sweet job of steering that thing too! Just rip the guts from one of those RTF’s by Eflite, and away you go. And you could throw the little motor on, use it with the folding prop to get you back to altitude for another thermal hunt:)
Nice as experiment but I have to desagree here, in my opinion never a RC plane "finds" a thermal easily than a FF either due to its greater weight, or to the (bad) interference the moving parts "killing" the glide but mainly because a FF well trimed when making curves centers (or is sucked) it self in the thermal much more easily. I agree with everything else. Always good to see your videos!
John Borlaug, I've got lots of Sky Voyagers, more coming on a regular basis. My guy in China is liking the sales, and since he's legitimately using the sales to support his family, I like sending him orders for more planes.
Very cool and sleek setup. The fact that the motor doesn’t go very far back must help with pitch-related inertia-I imagine that the Gollywock I fly rubber RC with, which is rudder-only, would be much more sluggish if it were 2-channel than this. Makes me curious about building an F1G-style balsa rubber RC model. Thanks for sharing!
If you're running a brushed motor, you'll have to figure out some way to short out the motor when it's at zero throttle. Otherwise go brushless and program the brake.
Very educational and amusing videos! Gliders are the best planes anyway. Using a rubber band or maybe a Supercapacitor * (restricted power) is what makes it a glider. Is it possible to rubber band power a flying wing?
prep0wer there have been several really good rubber powered flying wings. The Never Forget series are particularly amazing performers; check them out on Outerzone.
I wasnt sure how to share this with you, but here it is! ua-cam.com/video/IdtcytW-Law/v-deo.html This is the longest flight I've ever had with a rubber model. All hail the P1B!
@@joshuawfinn Yeah, hobby is challenge, as you say. I'll show you my video, ua-cam.com/video/Mm8i_VSzEmg/v-deo.html. This is my challenge to fly RC plane like controlled line, which I can fly speed-controllerable lined plane.
Love it,I have been flying rubber scale models with micro radio control now for some years,some with rudder only,they are real fun to fly on my cabbage patch at the back of my garden.
Thats why I like this channel you are always prepared to accept technology and experiment rather than be a a stuck in the mud grumpy old purist ! use what is available to us I say,and that lovely model is enhanced with those two simple controls and less chance of getting it stuck in trees too.
Angel Reading very cool. I wasn't aware you were doing that, and I'll have to give it a try!
I dreamed of doing this 60 years ago with my dime-store rubber powered planes!! so Cool!!
Hi Josh, rc rubber has fascinated me for a long time but I have never done it. I have been following domoremath for several years and the flights he gets from a playingfield in the city amongst the skyscrapers have to be seen to be believed. He even put a camera onboard for some flights.
GrandadIsAnOldMan yeah he's absolutely amazing.
I really like domoremath - he got me intrigued by the potential for rubber power. And I stumbled across Josh's videos as suggestions from there.
Just received mine from you yesterday. So nice receiving it so fast. The first one I ordered from overseas and it took forever to arrive. I lost that one in a thermal so I'm modding this new one with rc. Thanks for the fast shipment.
It is a game changer. I would do this with as many models as you can. There was a lot more open land in the early 20's, 30's than there is now. This does solve this problem. It solves a lot of problems. This will GROW your business. Keep it up!
I need to do another rubber/rc plane...it's a lot of fun.
Do you get excited to see more people doing FF? i was at my hobby shop yesterday getting some stuff for my current project, a large scale control line to electric rc, but i saw a dude around my age with his son about the age of my son, going thru all the FF kits, i should have struck up a conversation. But that was the 1st person in my area i saw even looking at the kits!! The store tells me im the 1st in about 6 years and the last guy was pushing 90, they think he died....😢 but i was happy to see someone else. I knew there had to be another as some kits have moved there, and not by me! I actually prefer the vintage kits, more work cutting everything out, but much better wood
Yes!!!
Wow, I have an antique hand drill I'm going to fix and set up as a winder.
Marty Jeruzal just be careful that the winding hook doesn't pull out of the chuck. Best method is to actually drill through the shaft and insert the winding hook that way.
I particularly enjoyed the winding-up of the rubber bands. I actually played it at .75% for effect.
Wow you did a lot of turns for such a short piece of rubber
2:49 Watch as Jr.'s feelings get hurt when mom shoos him away.
Oh my! You’re a Clemson Tiger! Go Tigers! Great video. I’ve been interested in micro servo applications.
Go Tigers! I spent 9 years at Clemson. Wonderful experience living, studying, and working there.
just finished a Rado Cizek XL in RC(same gear you use) going to start with 16 strands 1/8 I also have 2 Sky Voyagers Thanks for your Vids good info Josh
Oh that sounds absolutely magnificent!
No, rubber- R/C assist is not at all like having a dethermalizer. It's a way to control where the model goes. No more at the " mercy" of the wind. No more long hikes after every flight. No more in the trees. No more lost models. You can fly it to your hand. Also, you can seek thermals, and get it back. If it does get into nice thermal, you can stay there as long as you want, fly it out and bring it down when you want to (before it gets lost).
I just ordered one of these and I'm gonna do the R/C thing with it and enjoy myself.
Need a electric winder to speed things up a absolute must have... the work rate to fun ratio is too close. A 3rd servo to control a geared / brake system to extend run time / control climb rate and allow larger dia. props for more efficient climb per revolution to extend flight times. Less winding more flying. Need dual rubber tubes within the master tube to have more rubber duration. Rear section has a roller system to allow the rubber to move and stretch during the wind up phase.
Everything above will get you more folks interested. Front gear box can have a plastic piston / cylinder fake motor that reciprocates to create a motor sound for vintage FF effect.
AmpAbuser electric winders are crap. Use one and you'll see why. They're weak and give no feedback of what the motor is doing. As I mentioned in detail in the video, that winder is a 3.5:1 designed for BIG airplanes. I don't have a 10:1 that is suitable for that size of rubber...it would take about 1/4 as long to wind with such a winder.
Very cool! For me this is one of your best videos! I think this plane will be popular! Thanks Josh.
That’s a nice setup there. Certainly a good flier. I’ve been wanting to do an RC rubber model for some time now. After seeing this great success, I might just try my hand. :)
Copterdude you definitely should try it!
I think I'll have to get one these models. It may get me back into RC after 40 years. Since I got my pilot's license.
Is it possible to go with smaller rubber and more winds for more duration?
Pretty cool. This is a growing type. There's another guy that has a LOT of old-time Rubber planes with R/C, who flies in an Astro Turf park in what looks like downtown Manhattan. it's "domoremath." Very informative.
I'm quite familiar with his work...we've corresponded a little. He did this same conversion with his own Sky Voyager.
Thats amazing. I didnt even know this was a thing. :)
this is like basically a better small radian on a rubber band.
kazuma drewsin it does fly remarkably well. I want to put a small brushless motor on one eventually. The manufacturer actually makes an electric version that looks pretty interesting.
I've been wondering about the possibility if this kind of set up for a while. I've already looked at the P1B1 as a potential platform, and this conversion has a few ideas you've pointed out that I hadn't thought of. May well give this a go!
archivist17 do it! It works surprisingly well!
I live on the east coast near a big metro area. So not a lot of big fields. I’ve always had a project in the back of my head to build a Satelite 1100 with a screaming Rossi 60. However I would loose it on the first flight even with a DT. So my thought was a mini RC pack with a rudder tab and a second channel for the DT. So fly it back and release the DT.
That would be awesome! Please get video when you get around to doing that!
It may be a while. However 2 of my favorite things in the world are Satellite models and Rossi engines. Old Rossi’s not the new crappy looking ones.
@@RMJTOOLS sounds like ya gotta do it!
Ok now I gotta try this
Free flight without radio control is fine if you like to take long hikes and lose airrplanes.
Just the thing to fly at Buckminster.
2:47 that’s what he said
Man, you guys have so many beautiful products on your website. It is a pity that shipping cost to Brazil is so high, it makes it impossible for us to buy :-(
Unfortunately we are getting reamed on shipping. I actually lose money on shipping most of the time, so you're not even seeing the full cost. :(
Great idea!
Do you have a teaching for making Tower and Piston Launchers...if you sold them for 13mm through 24mm motors for Rocketry competition you wouldn't be able to keep them on the shelf ...?
Just recently subscribed, great videos concerning the intricacies involved in adjusting the many variables that affect the path of flight. Hope did a sweet job of steering that thing too! Just rip the guts from one of those RTF’s by Eflite, and away you go. And you could throw the little motor on, use it with the folding prop to get you back to altitude for another thermal hunt:)
Agree
Nicea prafomas r.c glider👍🏻👍🏻
I hold my stooge with my feet alot.. lol
Good to know I'm not alone!
Nice as experiment but I have to desagree here, in my opinion never a RC plane "finds" a thermal easily than a FF either due to its greater weight, or to the (bad) interference the moving parts "killing" the glide but mainly because a FF well trimed when making curves centers (or is sucked) it self in the thermal much more easily.
I agree with everything else. Always good to see your videos!
Does this mean I have a winder to print too?? ( I have a printer) -and a file) It's my birfday on the 30th! :d :D I hope you have lots of them Joshua!
John Borlaug, I've got lots of Sky Voyagers, more coming on a regular basis. My guy in China is liking the sales, and since he's legitimately using the sales to support his family, I like sending him orders for more planes.
I am addicted to r rubber power free flight..
Very cool and sleek setup. The fact that the motor doesn’t go very far back must help with pitch-related inertia-I imagine that the Gollywock I fly rubber RC with, which is rudder-only, would be much more sluggish if it were 2-channel than this. Makes me curious about building an F1G-style balsa rubber RC model. Thanks for sharing!
sandfac yeah that would be one very cool project!
Can anyone think of a mechanical prop break for a microelectric with a pusher..... I'm trying to stop the prop with the engine off
If you're running a brushed motor, you'll have to figure out some way to short out the motor when it's at zero throttle. Otherwise go brushless and program the brake.
Well done Hope , for asking good questions, it all seemed hi tech until the stooge.
Hopes Great!!!! and a heck of a builder as well
Awesome cool you guys are great..love flight ✈️
Very educational and amusing videos!
Gliders are the best planes anyway. Using a rubber band or maybe a Supercapacitor * (restricted power) is what makes it a glider. Is it possible to rubber band power a flying wing?
* Air Hogs E-Charger
(flying wing with rubber band power in pusher configuration)
prep0wer there have been several really good rubber powered flying wings. The Never Forget series are particularly amazing performers; check them out on Outerzone.
nice
catch thermal
I did catch some nice thermals with it, but never when the camera was rolling unfortunately
Cool
I wasnt sure how to share this with you, but here it is!
ua-cam.com/video/IdtcytW-Law/v-deo.html
This is the longest flight I've ever had with a rubber model. All hail the P1B!
Why don't you put on a coreless motor? I think you can do it as same as weight of rubber.
Where's the challenge in that?
@@joshuawfinn Yeah, hobby is challenge, as you say. I'll show you my video, ua-cam.com/video/Mm8i_VSzEmg/v-deo.html. This is my challenge to fly RC plane like controlled line, which I can fly speed-controllerable lined plane.
@@woesan dang that looks challenging. Very cool!
please post some links to the radio gear used in this project?
Links added. :)
It's a whole lot better with the volume turned off
It's even better with your comment turned off.
Whow you mob
At 2:41 The camera operator starts to drift off to never never pay attention land.