ELDERS COMPARED! Sims 2 vs. Sims 3 vs. Sims 4
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- Опубліковано 7 січ 2021
- In this video, I'm comparing Elders in the Sims 2 vs. Sims 3 vs. Sims 4 - plus a quick look at Sims 1 (lack of) elders. Find out how they stack up!
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Elders in Sims 4 are literally adults with grey hair and different posture..
Yes, they really are!
Teens, Elders and Adults are exactly the same
@@nancyhi8357 Same height, and most of the same actions 😑
@@nemanjakuc9513 Not even "most", all actions are the same
@@czfuchs It is just like teens can't get pregnant, only Elders can Reminisce just a little amount of actions that are available.
i need some "get off my lawn" grandpas and i need them now
LOL! Same here!
Hahahaha, omg yee
omg yessss
Has anyone mentioned the “harass” interactions elders could do with canes? You could harass a sim, shaking your cane at someone (mean interaction) , or just stomp around and “harass world” (it was a ‘go here’ option)to grouch about in general. Mean sims would do it autonomously. I loved it.
TS3 does have a little bit of that. If your elder owns a cane, you can use it to harass people with the cane.
In the Sims 3 you can ask someone's parents for their hand
@Monica Taylor yeah I love it!
@Monica Taylor I think it comes with Generations but it's so neat
@@catelyn719 yeah It's so annoying when people say Sims 3 has no details.
@@idk_who2320 the sims 3 totally has amazing details like sims 2 👏
@@aspirationfailure6100 ikr and a lot of people fail to notice that I like how you can brag about being a doctor, and if your a doctor and your at a community lot someone may need medical attention
I think elders is one of the aspects of the game that is considered boring, so it is never fixed because "no one cares about them", so they remain boring because they are never fixed, so they are never fixed because they are boring, so they remain boring (and are never fixed)
It's a vicious cycle. I'd love more content for elders. They deserve better!
@@PleasantSims I'd love more content for them too. Even from a gameplay perspective, it would feel so much more rewarding to care for your sims throughout their lives and unlocking a decent amount of things to do with them once they become elders, than just having them retire and having them sit at home until they pass
@@flamingo2946 Exactly. I want lots of whims to yell at kids to get off my lawn. I want to constantly ask my kids for grandchildren or have the constant desire to tell kids about my grandchildren. I want to complain about how "things are like they used to be". Basically, I liked the reminiscing of Sims 3, but like I want to also be able to more easily create my stubborn old man. I'd also like it to be easier to have a "late middle age" thing so that my hot still pretty young looking adults don't all suddenly turn 90 at once. In Sims 3 I'd give the adults white or gray hairs at a certain point to show they were aging (though if they had kids after you did that they might also have gray hair). In Sims 4 I initially have elders dye their hair so they look a little bit younger. I also just want way more clothes for old people. I shouldn't have to sort through a million crop tops to find something my elder doesn't look weird in. Like why not make clothes that are generally inappropriate outside of an age group into a checkbox of age groups that you can uncheck like the male/female clothes and hair styles? That way my lady who still wants to be a young adult can look sad in a crop top and everyone else can have some nice granny dresses or slacks and nightgowns. A lot of the young adult clothing looks super sad on elders
Whoever has decided that every life stage other than young adult is "boring" needs to lose their job. Elders could be sooo much fun. Devious elders that "steal the rolls" at restaurants or play special pranks on kids. Funny little moodlets about squeaky hearing aids. Elder specific hobbies (Nifty Knitting's utter failure). They just don't try whatsoever.
@@kaityfen There are so many things elders could do. Bingo nights. Community centers for the eldery. Heck, even retirement homes could be fun if done the right way.
In the sims 3 you can throw funerals for any death in the family, even pets. Its so cool all the guests arrive wearing all black and give their condolences and your sim can give a speech in front of the grave. Its such a neat feature that we took for granted!
really?!!! Wow, I forgot about that
I didn’t know that
Woww. Thats news to me! Thank you!
Wait, really??
That's a cool little detail.
You missed the ability of intimidating teens with crane in Sims 3
You wrote “crane” and now I can imagine a old guy in a crane steering it around yelling at a teen
@@silyknow same😂
EA doesn't care about elders because they're not the target demographic when it comes to DLC 😭😭
I think you're onto something there!
What does DLC stand for?
@@nou-tp7dm it means 'downloadable content' so extra content like expansion packs etc. 🙂
@@nou-tp7dm downloadable content
@@nou-tp7dm downloadable content that costs real human money 🤑💰
Elders can also pinch children's cheeks in the Sims 3.
Cute
I’ve always thought you couldn’t only have elders and minors in The Sims 2 because there’s a possibility the elder would die before the minor was aged up
That's what I thought too
Well to be honest, children, by default, only take 8 days to age up to teen. Elders, by default, take longer to get to the end of their life stage. That means that a child would most likely have time to age up before the elders die.
Still, by the time elder die, the children become teens and teens should be pretty self sufficient by themselves already. I do remember trying to make my teenager sims live alone without parents but the moment they died, social services came to get my sims, I hope they would've changed that.
I imagine that someone just didn't set elders as someone who can watch children. Children can't be alone on a lot without an adult, so maybe someone didn't tell the game that elders are fine, too.
@@Schnort but children can be on the lot with teens and elders lol
Evil elder sims on sims 3 can also harass the world with a cane! It's really funny!!
I have a Sim that is not evil and I still can do the harass world interaction.
I will never get over the hula girls dancing😂❤️
I love the hula girls!
It made it so much less depressing to have an elder die! Now it's always sad and super depressing even if they led a long full life
I just want some hula boys too :(
@@Karin-fj3eu Yeah- and I'm pretty sure the game's able to track who a Sim's attracted to now since in Sims 4 the love interests for your movies are *always* gender you're attracted to (I realized this because my gay Sim has never gotten a female love interest- alternate universe where there are so many movies with LGBT main characters that there's a "straight" section on Netflix)
@@merchantfan I know! It seemed like the sim was moving to a paradise of some sorts. Although the image was kinda broken whenever they would come back to haunt you (god the sims 2 ghosts were so scary), my ten year old self at that time still really appreciated it
I think sims 3 has the best elders with canes and reminiscing the golden days and more. Sims 4 elders just simply... ExIsT and sims 2’s oldie family makes me hate playing elders by themselves 😂
God, I hate those Oldies. LOL
@@PleasantSims don’t we all? 😂
Yeah though the anniversary parties and the platinum death with the hula girls were both really sweet in Sims 2. Bring back the hula girls!
@@merchantfan yea the hula zombies had CHARM to them something sims 4 lacks a lot of
i fukin cried when my first elder couple died in TS3 😔🥺
Elders in the sims 1:
Adult: You fool, I am immortal
@G A And fireplace,pool ladder 😂
@G A 😂
Fire: hippity hoppity your life is now my property
Sims 2 & 3: *notice elders*
Sims 4: "How is elder formed?"
Sims 1: "Elders? Never heard of em"
Sims 1: aging? what the hell is that, a food?
@@davidkonevky7372 yeah, yeah, I hear that they sell it down in New Zealand.
@@Schnort New Zealand? Do you mean Neighborhood 2?
I think it’s so funny that the devs like to say that nobody plays with families, while at the same time not giving us family game play. I like playing with entire families but in Sims 4 it’s so hard.
did they actually say that? EA is in their own psychosis
I swear I'm family oriented and I love to play with families!
they say most people make 1-2 sims. But they don't acknowledge we eventually make those 1-2 sims have generations of families, it's just so dumb
I'd love to have a caretaker career, as well as a retirement home option. The retirement home could have elements that are in the university pack, so you dont have to control all the residents. I would like canes back. More soical interactions like sims 3,but also special interactions between grandparents and grandchildren...like certain life stories, etc. At the end of an edlers life i would really like to have funerals and a lot type for graveyards.
I would LOVE to have retirement homes! That would be such a cool feature to add! I also want funerals and cemeteries.
Giant Woman I love the idea of a home care worker and retirement homes! I never thought of those
Maybe they decide to make a pack if it’s deemed lucrative $$$
The Sims 4 IS evolving just backwards
Devolving
Revolving
you forgot to mention the inheritance in the sims 2, that was a good reason to marry with an old rich sim
I'm surprised, since it did show Nervous getting inheritance when Olive passed on in the video
@@SimsAllAround I kinda miss this feature and it was fun because you couldnt choose the sims who are going to get inheritance
@@RafaelRodrigues-qw2qj Right? That was actually great xD I know Sims 3 has NRaas to do something similar, but I don't think Sims 4 has anything for that
In the sims 3 you can throw a "funeral party" when it's close to an elder's lifespan
Did you mean republican party?
@bong water It's normal since main players of the sims are self-absorbed leftists
@@lloydlin7834 and you got your stats from where?
@@retrosims5621 common sense
I actually like that teens through elders share clothing in the sims 4, it's always nice to have those options available. Sometimes I want a teen who dresses like an old lady or a grandma who's a party girl.
One change that I think would make it better though is if the clothing were tagged to the different age groups and then filtered by default like it is for feminine/masculine or the different outfit categories. That way the option is still there but only when you want it.
Also it would be nice if Sims automatically switched to elder styles if the thing they were wearing wasn't tagged "elder" when they aged up. That way townies would look appropriate for their age and not always so sad and washed up
exactly! that's how i would want it
Omg, the celebrate the golden anniversary option is so cute!!
I love it so much! Hope we see a comeback!
I still can’t even!! We miss you sims 2
I think it would be cool if, once your sim reached elderhood, they would gain one or two new traits exclusive to elders; based on how well your sim has lived (maybe dictated by how many of those aspiration/whim points they have, how well they did in their career, and how many skills they've learned?) your sim would either gain two random negative traits if they did the worst, one negative and one positive if they did decent, two positive if they did good, and if they did great, you the player can decide yourself what traits they should have.
Negative traits could be something like "weak-heart" which would make the sim more likely to die from exhaustion (but the better your sim's athletic skill is, the less likely your sim is to get it randomly), "out of touch" which will make your sim worse with electronics and sometime gain negative moodlets when talking to young adult sims, "grouchy" which makes your sim gain a negative moodlet when it's too noisy or when they're near children (but this trait can't be gained by sims with certain traits, like "cheerful"), or "forgetful" which works similarly to the absent-minded trait in Sims 3 (this trait would then be less likely to occur the better your sim's logic skill is)
Positive traits could include traits like "proud grandparent" only available to elder sims with grandkids and would give them a special bond with their grandkids that both fills their social need faster but also helps the grandkid sims learn skills faster, and give special happy moodlets, "still in my prime" which will make it so your sim doesn't get exhausted like you demonstrated in the video, "silver fox/cougar" which not only gives your sim special confident and flirty moodlets, but can also give special flirty moodlets to sims they flirt with, and makes it impossible to die of exhaustion from woohoo, or "wise" which will not only make your sim less likely to get mad or sad over small things like insults or accidents, but will also make your sim learn mental skills quicker
Elder exclusive traits are a good idea, but it would be better if we choose them regardless of how well they have done in their life. Of course some of those could be only available if the elder meets the certain criteria.
Yeah like "Wise" or "Nurturing" if they aged up well or "Crotchety" or "Washed Up" if bad. Wise would teach skills better and be able to help kids and teens finish homework or gain parenthood 'points' faster. They'd gain Logic, Parenting, and Writing faster. "Nurturing" would be able to take away some minor bad moodlets or add good ones. Maybe they could bake special cookies that gave a buff to whoever ate them. They'd gain Knitting, Cooking, and Baking faster.
"Crotchety" would be really stubborn and give people angry moodlets when they talked to them like "Impossible Old Man/Lady". They'd get the special interaction to "Get Off My Lawn" for kids and teens they see where they chase them away. They get a bunch more complaints and get positive moodlets for mean interactions even if they weren't mean or evil before. Kids would get uncomfortable moodlets around them like "Mean Old Man". They'd get positive moodlets if alone like "Peace and Quiet".
"Washed Up" would frequently start the day with negative moodlets like sad or uncomfortable. They'd get exhausted more frequently. They'd get special interactions like "You Should Have Seen Me Back in the Day" and "I Used To Be a Real Looker" as a romantic interaction. These would give positive moodlets to the Sim but uncomfortable or sad ones to the listener and would usually lose relationship
This System is very similar to the distribution of traits for babies (and the coming life stages when aging up) in the Sims 3 and I really enjoyed that concept.
@@MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken I know, that's what I took inspiration from^^
@@MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken Yeah I loved those little mini systems in Sims 3 that made you pay attention for the best results. They also had the very clear system of what fruit to eat if you wanted a certain gender
In my opinion, I don't mind that elder clothes are the same as adult clothes, because it gives you more customization, I always hated that in the past games that there were some only teen, and only elder clothes, so when a teen ages up for example they will have different clothes ;and when someone becomes an elder, you can't have the clothes that they had whilst they were an adult, also, about the great grandparents thing, it is actually a thing in the sims 4, but for some weird reason it doesn't show in CAS.
i feel you on the elder clothes, as not everyone who grows old is instantly going to throw out all their "younger" clothes for knitted sweaters and baggy pants. it makes it really hard to make an elder sim who is more up to date or maybe refuses to act their age etc. like if i have an elder sim who is in the business career still i want them to look the part or maybe i want to play out a punk rock grandma?? and not to speak of the fact that elderly sims have barely any clothing options to begin with in 2 and 3 :( i think it would be neat if you get more options, aka it unlocks with that life stage, but it shouldnt be forced upon you.
@@sarasmedberg8203 I definitely agree with you! Some elders may have different styles
Exactly! I hate it when my sim has a beautiful outfit and I can't recreate it when they age up
I kinda find it weird though when teens are wearing the same things their parents may have worn once. It would be nice to have at least some clothing that only teens or elders can wear. Or hell this is why a clothing store that actually functions like in the Sims 2 would work so your sims can buy extra outfits.
I like that in Sims 4 elders outfits are the same as adults. I just wish there were more elder appropriate clothing options. I'd also like a "go for a walk" and "do light exercise" option for elder Sims so that they can get exercise without over exerting themselves.
Yeah- imagine a gym class that included "senior swim" where a bunch of elders go in the pool and gently move back and forth!
yeah, I forget how modern my clothing is until I have to make an elder sim
@@davidkonevky7372 I find it hard to find elder appropriate clothes for female Sims more so than male Sims. A lot of the tops are crop tops and when I do find a top that looks nice I turn the Sim around and find the top has an open back. There's not that much selection at all for elders.
I LOVE that you include sims 1 too!!! no matter what, it's where the game started and it's amazing to see what a BIG leap there was from 1 to 2!
The changes from Sims 1 to Sims 2 were revolutionary! It was amazing!
@@PleasantSims my thoughts exactly! As a kid, it was mind-blowing to go from Sims 1 to 2.
I think it would be perfect if they tagged the clothes by age but let us choose whether we want to use the tags or not (just like the formal tag, for example). This way we could get the best of both worlds.
that would require them to actually make clothes other than trendy teen stuff lol
Herb bragging about Angela be a party animal is a mood. He must be so proud of her 10000 kids as a teenager hahahahaha.
😆 😆 😆
May I really come back with a different name and the kids have hiding for gens to centuries and they slowly popping up.
in Sims 3 CAS you forgot to mention that you can customize the amount of wrinkles and "age spots" of the sim
Elders have always been my least favourite life stage. Usually by then they've already completed whatever goals I had for them so I end up just trying to find things for them to do and waiting for them to die. This could be especially frustrating in Sims 3 because you had no idea when they were going to die. In Sims 2 I remember creating a retirement home and just moving my elder Sims in there so that I at least had all the elders in one place.
HAHAHAHAHA
They are so relegated!!!! I loved to take the chance of a sim becoming an Elder to give then a second storyline or spice things up, get a second career, adopt some children, become a hunter, anything hahaha
Same! In this Sims 2, if I have a household of elders, I either have them breed pets, adopt children, or travel. Anything to give them something to do!
I like having the elders in a club where they can play cards and hangout together. The club system in the Sims 4 is so helpful to remedy social interactions. I really thought Kniffy Knitting was a miss when they didn't have 'old man' clothes and more things to do for elders. Elders can be boring to play because they don't have enough unique things about them to make them interesting.
I hate the fact that in Sims 4 retired elders are basically unemployed.
Elders reminisce about memories they never had because Sims 4 has nothing regarding memories or moments to begin with.
LOL, I'm done xD
I want interactions like 'impart wisdom' onto children and grandchildren, or 'i am so proud' after their kid graduates or gets a promotion, i want them to tell stories, write memoirs, i want adult sims to call their parents as free babysitters if they are alive, i want some sort of hospice care rabbit hole, i want disease to affect them more, i want negative interactions like 'criticize life choices' or a phone call pop up like 'why don't you call me anymore?!', also i would love if potential spouses could ask their s.o.'s parents 'permission to marry their child' and their relationship score affects the outcome.
the 'show off grandkids' from the sims 3 is the cutest thing, also canes are fantastic as well.
hobbies like, games, puzzles, birdwatching, bingo etc. would all fill up their retirment.
i want a 'funeral' party system to properly mourn them when they die. i want sims to 'talk to' gravestone instead of just mourning it so they can try to feel connected to their dead elders. maybe even have the ghost show up to listen but the sim can't see them. i think something like that would be really sweet.
i want a tag system for 'teen clothes' and 'elder clothes' that exists by default but like with the gender tags of 'masculine' or 'feminine' it can be removed if you want clothes from another life state for a specific reason. All the knitted sweaters, crocs and high waisted jeans please
i want so much for elders.
Late, but... That was beautiful.
they just rushed the life stages and didn't add any animations and interactions and thing that we're to naive to notice. And I find that very insulting. Stupid EA
My elder Don Lothario died from exhaustion from too much woohooing 😂 if I had to choose one way for that sims to die that’s exactly what i’d choose lol
Bhahahs
I looved the walking cane in sims 3 (with the strollers for baby's/toddlers) - something small but it made such a difference for me, really makes the ages more distinct and unique
3:05 Whoa whoa whoa, Mortimer!!! You wanna flirt with Dina AND Nina?!? Have you been hanging out with Don Lothario too much? XD
LOL, in my Sims 3 rendition of the game, it's actually Consort Capp that's dating Nina and flirting with Dina. NRaas does some weird stuff when I'm not looking. xD
Last time I was this early Skip Broke and Michael Bachelor were still alive
😆 😆 😆
and Darleen Dreamer 😁
and everyone on the specter graveyard
I love the boasting about grandchildren and the walking canes. I always felt elders were ignored.
I think that in the sims 2 you can't just have elders with kids without an "adult sim" because they die at a certain exact time. If it was just elders with kids, the kids would be alone when the elders die, resulting in a "game over". In the sims 3, for example, the death of the elders is random, so it is easy for the game to postpone it till the baby/kid/teen gets to the age of adulthood. Hugs! :)
Today I learned that in the Sims 2 you can just drag and drop sims within the family tree to link them together.
I played that game for 5 years and longer and I have NEVER known that 😅
Oop- 😂
How did you do it then when you created families?....
@@SimGirl00 well firstly I pretty much always played generations so the family tree just made itself, If I ever made a family I only remember using the genetics system and just did that... so.. I guess maybe they weren't ever technically related? lol 😂 I'll give myself the benefit of the doubt, I was a child, I was 6 when I began playing that game 😅
Toddlers are my least favourite life stage but elder is right up there, particularly in the Sims 4, but yes, all games. When my sims became elders, I tried to still play them as enthusiastically as I did before but it really does seem to be a 'throw-away' life stage. Basically, you're just waiting for them to die so you can get them out of your hair. To say that is totally unfair to elders is a colossal understatement. (About to date myself here) I continue to watch an old 80s t.v. sitcom called the Golden Girls. For those that don't know, it's a sitcom about 3 middle-aged women and 1 elderly woman (mother of one of the characters). These four girls show that life doesn't end because you hit a certain age. In the Sims, however, it does, for all intents and purposes. I would love to see more content for elders. Community Center volunteer and charity work, for example. Special clubs and associated events; perhaps even dance events specifically for elders. A matchmaker for elders (because who wants to grow old alone - especially if you are widowed already) as a service (such as Community Center speed-dating). Elders would be ideal for arranging and organizing parties and events, particularly for the jet-set, corporate go-getters (think: the Fengs). Playing an elder should be as much fun as playing any other life stage, just different. I'm getting up there myself and believe me, I can really appreciate this entire video. :)
I freakin' love the Golden Girls. I don't know why they don't give us more for elders. I love all these ideas! Life is definitely over when your hair turns gray!
Omg the Golden Girls is the best! I've watched since my childhood and it still entertains me and makes me laugh!
Golden girls is an amazing show, not only is it funny but it tackled topics that most 80’s sitcoms wouldn’t dare to touch. One character’s brother was gay and wanted his sister to come to his wedding and she felt uncomfortable about it. You also had a character whose son was a cross dresser and she blamed his wife for it but after his death his wife said it was no one’s fault and that he was a wonderful man. His mother finally breaks down and acknowledges how much his death really hurts
@@PleasantSims Your comment says life is over when your hair turns gray did you mean life is definitely NOT over when your hair turns gray?
@@flowerzgamez9365 LOL! Yes, I meant NOT over!!!
Loving the Twilight vibes in the beginning of the video😂
Thanks! I needed a change of scenery. Lol
Sims 4 Parenthood has a "back in my day" social interaction for elder Sims. When I first did this her speech bubble had a picture of an old box TV.
I think it's such a shame that elders are so neglected. As a generational player, it makes me sad to see them get written off as soon as they hit the final stage of life. Their twilight years are important too!
That’s reflective of real life in 2020/1 sadly, elders (even people younger than that in their forties and over) are overlooked for the youth. Never use to be like that for 40 somethings, but it is now. It’s sad. I’ll be 40 in less than a decade.
the idea of sharing clothes across ages in sims 4 sounds great in theory but it's resulted in all the stages feeling even more samey
I think the reason you needed an adult sim would have been incase the elders die off and the child/teen sim is then unplayable.
Please do adults vs young adults. The difference has always confused me
Adults are meant to be over 30 and as someone that age it’s offensive., I don’t have wrinkles!
@@desertrose1226 i see adult as more 40s to 50/60s. Young adult is like 20-30s
adults in the sims 4 are basically useless. The reason they were kind of important in the sims 2 was because young adults were added in the sims 2 university and they were only young adults when they were inside university, once they graduate, they instantly become adults. And in sims 3 generations I think they added a midlife crisis so adults would get sad whenever they didn't do stuff they missed out on on their early years.
@@desertrose1226 it's more meant to be people in their late 40's/early 50's I think
@@davidkonevky7372 young adults were in base game for TS3
Sims 3 generations gave a lot of depth to all ages. I really wish sims 4 would make a generations ep so we could have a more realistic experience with our sims.
Also, I had no idea elders in sims 2 could celebrate their marriage. That's so sweet ❤
Yeah- though of course everything in Sims 4 is split up. When she said "exercise in front of the TV" I thought "I wish the exercise to TV was back" and then I googled and it's in Fitness Stuff. Where you only get one other option on it- working out in front of the TV was in the base game in Sims 3! Why should I have to pay for that terrible rock climbing wall just to exercise at home when it rains or listen to music portably which in Sims 2 came with University along with a ton of other stuff?
@@merchantfan That's exactly why I went back to Sims 3. I still can't believe witches and vampires each have their own (very expensive) pack when in Sims 3 we had Supernatural (which came with werewolves, witches, vampires, etc). And Sims 4 packs are crazy expensive, and they only offer half the content that Sims 3 packs had.
@@giuliapeterlongo1272 Actually vampires required Late Night. Still, you'd get werewolves, fairies, and witches
@@merchantfan Oh, I didn't know that (probably 'cause I already had Late Night when I bought Supernatural) XD
I kinda think EA is like “elders are gonna die anyways they don’t need much content.” Which makes me very sad they deserve better!
"A thing that I don't like in TS4" is my favorite Cindy's quote hahaha
I loved sims 2... The hula dancers at the end of elders life was something. Like hey, you lived your life well - come enjoy the afterlife. The first time it happened, I paused the game and called my mum 😂
Not sure if it’s only for elders in TS4, but they can renew their vows :)
I’d like for elders to do something...and not just elders. Kids and teens are pretty much neglected. Bring back the private schools, activities for kids and teens, not just scouting.
if you have seasons you can check the calender after they age up to elder and it will show next birthday. with some testing I have noticed they usually die on this day unless they are active or have the body builder aspiration reward trait.
Elders need a update or a pack like elder life stuff pack
Agreed!
I thought it was the “knitting stuff” pack. I love the rocking chairs in that pack.
@@jolenenelson2608 Unfortunately only the reminiscing is truly elder themed (though two of the hairstyles are pretty good elder or middle aged hairstyles- which by themselves almost made it worth it on sale bc those age groups receive little CC). The game does keep statistics on Sims you can look up with the UI. Why not tie the images to hitting a certain number for different things? Imagine if instead of cutesy stuff like sledding elderly Don Lothario reminisced about all the woohoo he had! I did like that it was an extra hobby that was 'safe' for elders and wouldn't lead to exhaustion
The boast about grand children option made me realize my TS4 sims never seem to talk about other sims. They never get a speech bubble with someone's face. Also when interacting with another sim you can't see what their actions are. The friendship and romance var may change nut unless it's something really obvious you can't see what they're doing. Those to things really create a disconnect for me in the game. It takes away some of the immersion and makes me less attached to my sims.
I think being able to have all the outfits on teens, adults, elders actually gives you more customization in cas. I have to say that that is an improvement compering to the previous games eventhough you highlighted it as a big dissapointment all the time. We have oldish looking stuff in casm in s4, but in other games if you want to make an elder as a young soul you pretty much have only cc.
What I’ve noticed between the elders in the games are sims 2’s and sims 4’s elders are basically adult sims with the hunch, but sims 2’s elders have more to do than their 4th counterpart.
In terms of appearance, 2 and 4’s adults look like people in their 60s to 70s
While sims 3’s elders look like they are people in their 80s and above.
If In a future sims generation they add more than the usual lifestates they could have two sets of elders, one could be seniors where the sims look like adults in their 60s and 70s while the 2nd part of the elder stage which can be called elders, can look more plump or skinny and look like people on the 80-90s age range. Kinda more realism and progression in ageing (unlike the baby to child bizarreness)
Adult is meant to be over 30 I think but the sims 4 adults look 50 lol all those wrinkles!!
I think the reason that they didnt allow 2 elders and children households is because the elder may die and leave the children as orphans
Hi Cindy, have you ever read about the original The Sims 4? It was supposed to be a multiplayer mobile game, that's why it has such a poor gameplay... I really hope they don't bring this idea up again on The Sims 5.
I think someone made a video about how they might be sneaking up on that idea again... we should be afraid... very afraid.
I want literally everything from Sims 2 & 3 plus I want them to shout at kids to "Get off their Lawn" I wish we also had th newspaper back for them to read the obits.
I like in ts3 how you can add extra age details to adults and elder sims!
I would LOVE! more activity for just elders. Like maybe bingo or even discounts on food like they get a senior discount.
Elder holidays in the sun would be awesome too.
I want elder specific hobbies/skills tbh. Give us incentive to retire!
And in the sims 4 the only elder-like pack is nifty knitting and the sims admits its just for young adults in the trailers.
I will never get over the size of cheeks in the Sims 2 lol
I've been creating Stars Hollow to replace Brindleton Bay and many of the prominent characters from Gilmore Girls are elders. It made me realize how little there is for them to do. It would be really cool to have a Retirement pack which would add in things like a retirement party, new activities like bridge, golf, mah jong/dominoes, and tennis. There could be awkward social interactions between grown children and parents like, "So met any nice sims lately?" or "When are you going to give me grandbabies? You're not getting any younger!" There could even be cute interactions between grandparents and grandchildren like grandparents teaching the kids how to play chess or how to cook. Kids could have a special interaction with grandparents like, "You were once my age!?"
back in the day, elders was the lifestate that I would hurry through just to get them out of my house. now, I grow attached to my sims, no matter their age, but I get sad at the lack of content for them... so it's lots of movie nights and reading for them lmao or fancy parties
Same I'm always attached to all my sims
The fact that the Sims team missed an opportunity to expand on the elders topic with Nifty Knitting😔
I personally like that all the life stages have access to the same clothing. Some clothes are obviously targeted towards a specific life stage, but having them accessible for everyone, leaves the door open for some weird/interesting sims :) Categories would be a great addition though. Like, search/sort clothing by "teens", "elders" ect
Sims 4 really woke up and said " we'll give them ✨nothing✨ but charge them more"
One of my elder sims in Sims 4 got pregnant. She called her daughter to ask for advice, "Should so-and-so and I try for a baby?" When the (adult) daughter responded, "You? A parent?!" She said something like, "That's it, I'm going to try for a baby right now!" I thought it was just a joke but then two days later she was pregnant and gave birth (then died a few days later). I had no idea she could get pregnant!
ETA I have no mods and I have never seen this happen before. This just happened last weekend.
you can't have a household of just elders and kids in sims 2 because elders are gonna die soon and the kids would be alone without guardians
I was making elders today and it was so difficult! No ‘elder’ clothes stood out to me and there’s barely any ‘elder’ hairstyles (in the sims 4)
And this is one of those areas like middle aged clothes that are hard to find CC for since CC tends to skew really young and fashionable. I can find a million crop tops for CC but a granny nightgown? No way
I love that the background in the beginning, reminds me of Skyrim.
Anyway I preferred the elder stage in the Sims 3, it didn't force them into a gimped state like the Sims 2 while still having gameplay distinctions for elders, unlike the Sims 4.
so basically the sims 4 elders are half-baked versions of the sims 2 elders
In sims 3 I had this one old lady that would always come to may house to heckle my sims and kick my trash, also in another save there was and old man that would enter my house without permission, insult one of my sims and leave. I don't know is it is one specific townie but I found it hilarious.
Personally I like that we get the same clothes in CAS in TS4, I think it gives more options for how your elder sims look. Particularly since the elder clothes in previous games aren't exactly nice. Definitely do need more for elders though, without a doubt there needs to be more actions for them to do. I will say though the club feature in Get Together can be great (for all ages but in this case elders). I like to make knitting or cooking clubs just for elders and it gives them something to do during the day. Would love actual Elder community centres and things like that in game though. And walking sticks definitely should be added. I never had Generations and those animations in TS3 look so great!
The face you made when you summarize what the sims 4 has really got me
I like the elders in the Sims 2
Me too!
I agree with almost all of the points that you've made, However I feel like having only a specific and limited choice for elders' clothing could be considered an act of ageism in today's world
I mean nowadays elders tend to wear clothes that are not that different from what adults/young adults wear irl.. I personally loved the clothing tbh
I want canes back. I want them to have their own elder specific trait to be a special kind of grumpy, messing with the younger folk "...back in my day..." type conversations.
id really love canes for elders, like they could add dat in an update 👀
In the Sims 4, it is so fucking hard to die. I had a sim who had the active trait and completed the body builder aspiration *and* my lifespan was set to long. She just would NOT die, I didn't realize those things added days to sims lives, so I was pretty frustrated lol. I just killed her off through exercising, she died doing what she loved I guess.
Honestly, I’m kinda glad that elders in TS4 have the same clothes as the previous life stages, cause I felt like the previous games wanted to make elders dress more modestly, but that might not be the case for everyone. What if I want a rocker grandma who wears leather pants and crop tops? The lack of gameplay detail upsets me tho, cause my rocker grandma might still have back problems and needs a cane.
it would be cool if Elders that are in the last days starts to lost some memories or if they can use a wheelchair or have interactions with their grandchildren like " tell Grandfather or Grandmother anecdote or story" that is linked to some event you played related to that sim that is recorded on the memory of the simor. also it could be funny if elders can also use false teeth as an item or medical prescription pills ( this last should have some effects like increasing their mood or helping the sim in some way)
Sims 4 elders: *dies from woohoo*
Real life elders: *have rampant STI issues in retirement homes/communities*
I once had an elder in ts3 who just wouldn't die of old age. He just kept on kicking and lived to see his 5th great-grandchild be born. And that was after shortening the elder stage to 10 days
We will get a 'generations' type pack, and the pre-pack update will include better babies. I just know it.
That old age death in sims 2 is so cute!
I love your comparison videos! I think you're very frank and honest about how The Sims 4 is not the strongest entry in the series but also about how every entry has their own strengths and weaknesses. I really appreciate your no bull approach as I personally don't think many of the EA Game Changers hold that mentality and can kind of let down their viewers in that way. Thanks again Cindy!
EDIT: Clarity and also wanted to add - death by too much woohoo, that's how I want to go lmfao
Thank you so much! 💙💙
It would be really cool to have more differences between teens, young adults/adults and elders. I have all of them in my household I’m playing rn and it’s getting kind of draining/boring to keep up with all of them! Still entertaining, but it would be nice to have more to do.
I would love options like spoil grandkids. I would like options for canes/walking sticks. More interactions. Games like Bingo for them to play better reminiscing.
Going from life to inevitable death.
i just realised the lack of content for elder sims might be the main reason why i don't like when my sims aged up to elders. there's not much to do!
In S4 yes but in sims 3 there’s more you can do.
If you do a 100 baby challenge your sims can date cousins because the game doesn't have enough memory or something to remember this isn't Alabama
I love playing with elders in the sims 2, the way I tend to play them is by playing them from season to season. So you push them to do things like take many vacations, form relations with grandchildren and maximise any hobbies.
Oh my God the Sims 4 quote should be "use your imagination" because they REALLY slack with the content they put out
I loved the interaction with the grandchildren's photos, it was so cute. I remember that if you have Seasons EP, your elders sims can go to the spring festival and dance, i don't know if they dance slowly that the others sims, but it was very cute to watch them. I hope those dances come back for the sims 4. Thanks for the video Cindy.
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