Connor Pardoe had an interview with "Breaking pickleball?" I think was the name, and he explained why it's(UPA) a for profit right now, made perfect sense, and it is planned to go non profit, they are not in it for a profit, they can use the PPA company departments like marketing, accounting, web development etc rather than have to allocate a huge chunk of money to set up a non profit only to then create those departments that are already established with PPA
4:51 From what I’ve read, UPA is seeking nonprofit status but it’s not an instantaneous process. According to the IRS it can take 3 months to a year for approval and that’s if there are no hiccups. Have you heard anything about the veracity of this?
As we mentioned, the conversations that we've been hearing seem to have a much longer timeline than that. Sooner the better though in my opinion, if there really trying to make it as a legitimate governing body. Otherwise we just gotta go back to USAPA
this will go to congress if it remains status quo. My thoughts is that UPA will adjust their status prior to that. But for me, another issue is that UPA's costs for memberships and paddle certifications process are out of control, costing almost 5 times more than USAP. This in my opinion will discourage small Paddle companies and certainly favor the larger ones. Something that seems so disingenuous cant last too long out in the open.
Precisely!! That was one of the biggest points we brought up for exactly that reason! Competition breeds innovation and they really seem to be trying to get rid of the competition by pricing out smaller companies
Not an engineer but isn’t the spin test you described with a static paddle a fair test of spin once a baseline is established. It’s not an example of how it happens on the court so it won’t produce 2200 rpm but it will show what kind of spin number that paddle is capable of. Do you want a Test where the paddle is moving and the ball is moving which would be more like real world conditions? Please help me understand.
Yes it is a fair test, but it would only be a fair test if the regulation level is reduced significantly! If the test is going to be static, then the legal limit needs to be wayyyy lower than 2200RPM for the test, which it currently is at. Otherwise you could have some extraordinarily spinny paddles on the market which the regulations are supposed to outlaw.
What's wrong with the UPA? They exist to regulate the PPA and MLP, NOT amateur/rec players. Professional players should have a different standard than rec players.
Well said. Thanks for clarifying that mess!
Absolutely, thanks for watching!! ☺️ Hoping this provides some more clarity for us pickleball addicts
Connor Pardoe had an interview with "Breaking pickleball?" I think was the name, and he explained why it's(UPA) a for profit right now, made perfect sense, and it is planned to go non profit, they are not in it for a profit, they can use the PPA company departments like marketing, accounting, web development etc rather than have to allocate a huge chunk of money to set up a non profit only to then create those departments that are already established with PPA
Great breakdown!
Thank you!!!! Appreciate the support 🙌🏽
4:51 From what I’ve read, UPA is seeking nonprofit status but it’s not an instantaneous process. According to the IRS it can take 3 months to a year for approval and that’s if there are no hiccups. Have you heard anything about the veracity of this?
As we mentioned, the conversations that we've been hearing seem to have a much longer timeline than that. Sooner the better though in my opinion, if there really trying to make it as a legitimate governing body. Otherwise we just gotta go back to USAPA
this will go to congress if it remains status quo. My thoughts is that UPA will adjust their status prior to that. But for me, another issue is that UPA's costs for memberships and paddle certifications process are out of control, costing almost 5 times more than USAP. This in my opinion will discourage small Paddle companies and certainly favor the larger ones. Something that seems so disingenuous cant last too long out in the open.
Precisely!! That was one of the biggest points we brought up for exactly that reason! Competition breeds innovation and they really seem to be trying to get rid of the competition by pricing out smaller companies
Lawyers on both sides are going new car shopping.
Hahaha, for real 😂😂😂
IMHO, USAP was asleep at the wheel and unfortunately got passed .
Not an engineer but isn’t the spin test you described with a static paddle a fair test of spin once a baseline is established. It’s not an example of how it happens on the court so it won’t produce 2200 rpm but it will show what kind of spin number that paddle is capable of. Do you want a Test where the paddle is moving and the ball is moving which would be more like real world conditions? Please help me understand.
By the way I totally agree with your issues with the “for profit” governing body.
Yes it is a fair test, but it would only be a fair test if the regulation level is reduced significantly! If the test is going to be static, then the legal limit needs to be wayyyy lower than 2200RPM for the test, which it currently is at. Otherwise you could have some extraordinarily spinny paddles on the market which the regulations are supposed to outlaw.
Honestly, this was way too fun to film 😂
Always is with you hahaha
What's wrong with the UPA? They exist to regulate the PPA and MLP, NOT amateur/rec players. Professional players should have a different standard than rec players.
If they could control amatures and rec they would!!!! CASH GRAB!
They're definitely trying to get the amateur market as well, we'll see if that actually happens
Pickleball has peaked, it’s all down hill from here🥴😳😖☠️