This video is Eight years old and still holds weight as if it were gold. Thank you so much sir for sharing this information!!! I surfed Psychobike back in 2006 on and off over the years. I'm truly glad you're still doing well sir and are blessed! Much love and thank you for everything you've done for the drag/street bike community over the years.
Stock wheelbase bikes do not require as much 'squat', because they are not as prone to spinning. Since more squat leads to additional traction, this can also cause stock wheelbase bikes to wheelie. As a result, we would have a bit more static spring pressure dialed in, with more compression dampening and less rebound dampening (to force the front end back down).
Erick, The stock shocks don't have the adjustment capabilities that the Dragshock does, so you wouldn't be able to have this set up without the Dragshock.
The BEST thing you can do is get your suspension setup by someone who knows what they are doing it will improve your riding so much drag or road ride or racetrack lap
👍 vid Brock immediately shows. In direct explanation at to what I personally am doing wrong and what others may or may not be doing right. Also gives clear view there's more to rider feel than sitting the bike.
Great information Sir and I'm definitely subscribed to your channel and I'm definitely adding this to my likes list. Great job Mr. Brock and keep up the good work 👍👍
Jeremy teasley is the man. need more credit here Brock...... D.M.E. chose him to substitute the loss of Joey. but long before that, he has prove, he is above most!!!
Very similar. The rebound dampening is almost identical and any adjustment shown in this video can be duplicated. We have a high speed compression dampening which works well 90% of the applications we encounter. It is an excellent alternative for the cost conscious purchaser.
@@alexm668 Glad you like our products and vids. Your question depends upon what type of riding you are doing and what problems you are having...and where. Most high-end shocks will have high and low-speed compression dampening while most rebound is handled with a single adjustment. As a general rule, if you are having traction problems off of the line, slow down (increase) your rebound. Down track, reduce rebound and increase compression. High and low adjustments can get tricky, and quite frankly..you are just guessing if you are not logging shock data (linear potentiometer on shock, wheel and clutch speed...etc) as you make the changes. Of course, you can always measure your clicks now(so you can go back later if needed) and try different adjustments to see how you and the bike react. I hope this helps - BD
Thanks Brock! It on a stock wheelbase bike, so there is enough grip off the line. So it sounds like I can leave it alone unless the track is bumpy in the deep end. Thanks again
I had never seen how the shock absorber rebound dampening function before. I was the 501st one to like the video. lol Thank you very much for all your videos.
Hey I've got a fully built 2000 zx9r. I'm have problems on the 8th track. I've got a 6in stretch and the front in has 30 weight race oil so it doest move and it sit about 4 inches off the ground.When I launch off the tree it makes it about 50-60 foot and goes strait up in the air. Can u tell me how to keep it down.
scrappy echols did you watch the video? if you did you should come to the conclusion that you might want to adjust your rebound dampening in the rear to come up slower. if you can't get it slow enough with the shock you have installed, purchase this drag shock
What an excellent video , well explained in simple terms. I'm currently looking for a top quality rear drag shock for my 66 inch supercharged busa. That ohlins looks excellent. Can you give me a price for a brocks ohlins delivered to England please ? I will look into it further. Thanks again , add 1 sub from England.
I follow his instructions on the bandit ohlins with my turbo it felt like a 6” extension it helped willies so much it’s a huge difference. Buy the shock before u do the extensions !!! Especially if u wanna keep it streetable
Hello! Can you please tell me why after I have lowered the bike and moved the real wheel a little bit to the back, the wheel starded to spin at launch? The rear shock is set at minimul at compression and maximum on rebound. New road with lots of grip, never spin any road tyre before this. The new tyre is a Shinko Hook Pro(1.8bar). I suspect the rear spring is a little stiff for me?(143 lbs) Here ia a video with the launching. Thanks a lot! ua-cam.com/video/zJ9vO39-09I/v-deo.html
Launch looks good to me? One thing - on the short bikes, we run compression and rebound close to all stiff. The shinko will damage your MPH greatly - only use it if you have track conditions with little or no traction.
@@BrockDavidson Well that launch was ok, beacause i have lowered the tyre pressure and the starting rpms. On my others Dunlop strert tyres I ran over 2.6bar in pressure and never got a wheel spin. That's why I suspected that after I have moved the wheel a little bit to the back it will not get enough grip. The national championship down here is held on a concrete airport, that's why I have bought the Shinko.
@@SherSlabescu the fastest guys run 7-8 PSI ( .48 bar) in the hook-ups ... try that and your traction problems will disappear (...to be replaced by new/exciting ones!).
Hey brock good stuff, I have a 03 gixxer , lowered and stretched, street/dragbike, the stock shocks rebound comes up to fast after fully adjusted, is there any other shock that I can use to fix this, don't have a big budget for a expensive drag shock at the moment?
@@BrockDavidson sorry mate, I ended up here trying to find out what was going on a short of a bike at a drag strip, Someone had a battery air pump hooked to a valve on the swing arm.
Hello @Zahir Shah. I believe you will find this information very informative: facebook.com/TheBrockDavidson/media_set?set=a.155985564429780.39631.100000550137534&type=3 (Please note: a 17 tooth countershaft is listed, this is a misprint - we run a 16 tooth. All else is correct)
This video is Eight years old and still holds weight as if it were gold. Thank you so much sir for sharing this information!!! I surfed Psychobike back in 2006 on and off over the years. I'm truly glad you're still doing well sir and are blessed! Much love and thank you for everything you've done for the drag/street bike community over the years.
Thank you for the kind words.
Stock wheelbase bikes do not require as much 'squat', because they are not as prone to spinning. Since more squat leads to additional traction, this can also cause stock wheelbase bikes to wheelie. As a result, we would have a bit more static spring pressure dialed in, with more compression dampening and less rebound dampening (to force the front end back down).
Kinda confused, so would this shock benefit a SWB ? I am thinking about getting one, I am into drag racing but would like to stay Swb.
@@Motoman313 potentially, go speak to a suspension specialist and get settings for weight and application
Keep watching our site. We are working on a Dragshock EZ version for the BMW also.
Erick, The stock shocks don't have the adjustment capabilities that the Dragshock does, so you wouldn't be able to have this set up without the Dragshock.
The BEST thing you can do is get your suspension setup by someone who knows what they are doing it will improve your riding so much drag or road ride or racetrack lap
👍 vid Brock immediately shows. In direct explanation at to what I personally am doing wrong and what others may or may not be doing right. Also gives clear view there's more to rider feel than sitting the bike.
Great information Sir and I'm definitely subscribed to your channel and I'm definitely adding this to my likes list. Great job Mr. Brock and keep up the good work 👍👍
Jeremy teasley is the man. need more credit here Brock...... D.M.E. chose him to substitute the loss of Joey. but long before that, he has prove, he is above most!!!
Very similar. The rebound dampening is almost identical and any adjustment shown in this video can be duplicated. We have a high speed compression dampening which works well 90% of the applications we encounter. It is an excellent alternative for the cost conscious purchaser.
Hi Brock, love your products and videos! I have a question, if you have a shock with high speed rebound, how should you adjust it?
@@alexm668 Glad you like our products and vids. Your question depends upon what type of riding you are doing and what problems you are having...and where. Most high-end shocks will have high and low-speed compression dampening while most rebound is handled with a single adjustment. As a general rule, if you are having traction problems off of the line, slow down (increase) your rebound. Down track, reduce rebound and increase compression. High and low adjustments can get tricky, and quite frankly..you are just guessing if you are not logging shock data (linear potentiometer on shock, wheel and clutch speed...etc) as you make the changes. Of course, you can always measure your clicks now(so you can go back later if needed) and try different adjustments to see how you and the bike react. I hope this helps - BD
Thanks Brock! It on a stock wheelbase bike, so there is enough grip off the line. So it sounds like I can leave it alone unless the track is bumpy in the deep end. Thanks again
I had never seen how the shock absorber rebound dampening function before. I was the 501st one to like the video. lol
Thank you very much for all your videos.
Glad you liked it!
Great teaching video! I've studied this video many times and reference it to many other racers when it comes to tuning. Thank you Brock
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey I've got a fully built 2000 zx9r. I'm have problems on the 8th track. I've got a 6in stretch and the front in has 30 weight race oil so it doest move and it sit about 4 inches off the ground.When I launch off the tree it makes it about 50-60 foot and goes strait up in the air. Can u tell me how to keep it down.
scrappy echols did you watch the video? if you did you should come to the conclusion that you might want to adjust your rebound dampening in the rear to come up slower. if you can't get it slow enough with the shock you have installed, purchase this drag shock
This is probably the clearest explanation on what rebound does.
Another great video.
indeed
It's a bummer they cost so damn much :(
i like de sport hope i meet yu on trk####
What an excellent video , well explained in simple terms.
I'm currently looking for a top quality rear drag shock for my 66 inch supercharged busa.
That ohlins looks excellent. Can you give me a price for a brocks ohlins delivered to England please ?
I will look into it further.
Thanks again , add 1 sub from England.
I follow his instructions on the bandit ohlins with my turbo it felt like a 6” extension it helped willies so much it’s a huge difference. Buy the shock before u do the extensions !!! Especially if u wanna keep it streetable
How do you clear the Error !DDC off the screen of 2016 BMW s1000rr? Once you disconnect the stock shock it shows
Error !DDC on display screen.
Hey, where can i buy long wishbone?
brocksperformance.com/window-link-kit-adjustable-5-rod-s1000rr-10-19-hp4-12-15-s1000r-14-20-and-s1000xr-15-19/
Brock, I want to seat up to three adult passengers. (seat and swingarm kit) Halla
What are the typical gains in the quarter mile if you bike was set up perfect with the stock shock verses perfect with the drag shock?
I’m trying to find your other video you mentioned do you think you could add link
here you go: ua-cam.com/video/ZqIiIB_oP1I/v-deo.html
@@BrockDavidson thank you very much
Hello! Can you please tell me why after I have lowered the bike and moved the real wheel a little bit to the back, the wheel starded to spin at launch? The rear shock is set at minimul at compression and maximum on rebound. New road with lots of grip, never spin any road tyre before this. The new tyre is a Shinko Hook Pro(1.8bar). I suspect the rear spring is a little stiff for me?(143 lbs) Here ia a video with the launching. Thanks a lot! ua-cam.com/video/zJ9vO39-09I/v-deo.html
Launch looks good to me? One thing - on the short bikes, we run compression and rebound close to all stiff. The shinko will damage your MPH greatly - only use it if you have track conditions with little or no traction.
@@BrockDavidson Well that launch was ok, beacause i have lowered the tyre pressure and the starting rpms. On my others Dunlop strert tyres I ran over 2.6bar in pressure and never got a wheel spin. That's why I suspected that after I have moved the wheel a little bit to the back it will not get enough grip. The national championship down here is held on a concrete airport, that's why I have bought the Shinko.
@@SherSlabescu the fastest guys run 7-8 PSI ( .48 bar) in the hook-ups ... try that and your traction problems will disappear (...to be replaced by new/exciting ones!).
Hey brock good stuff, I have a 03 gixxer , lowered and stretched, street/dragbike, the stock shocks rebound comes up to fast after fully adjusted, is there any other shock that I can use to fix this, don't have a big budget for a expensive drag shock at the moment?
You can have your stock shock re-valved. or find a later model OEM shock that fits and try it.
My friend has a poster of this bike on his shed's wall, I see it every time I get hammered.
Great video Brock, I had to revisit this one again. Thank you for sharing!
how similar is this shock to the "ez" shock that you sell?
What kind of shock is that??
Brock's Performance Dragshock by Ohlins
Is there anyway u can adjust ur stock rear shock for drag racing. Like for a 2016 zx14r
Not really. But we do the best we can in Episode 10 of our Gixzilla 2017 GSX-R1000 series. Should be out in a week or so.
Do you have this suspension for 2000 kawasaki zx12r by chance?
@Boosted_we do not.
Why is being inflated? air shock?
That's not inflation, it's a demonstration of the shocks internal hydraulic valving adjustability.
@@BrockDavidson sorry mate, I ended up here trying to find out what was going on a short of a bike at a drag strip,
Someone had a battery air pump hooked to a valve on the swing arm.
Comment was not meant for your video.
ua-cam.com/users/shortsNvb975fz2PE?feature=share
Forgot to say this is my favorite BMW bike.
can i do this set up with a stock shock????
Hi, what sprockets are you using front and rear
Hello @Zahir Shah. I believe you will find this information very informative: facebook.com/TheBrockDavidson/media_set?set=a.155985564429780.39631.100000550137534&type=3 (Please note: a 17 tooth countershaft is listed, this is a misprint - we run a 16 tooth. All else is correct)
great video thanx
Great Video!
Which exact shock model is it n can i get a link to buy it from
In this video was our Brock's Performance Dragshock by Ohlins: www.brocksperformance.com/Brocks-Performance-Dragshock+I780891+C38.aspx
But we also have our EJ version. It works just as well, for far less $: www.brocksperformance.com/Brocks-Performance-Dragshock-EZ+I781255+C38.aspx
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aguien puede decirme como se llama la orquilla trasera de la moto la que ase que se alarge la llanta para atras porfaa Muchas graciiass
+Genaro Llanas Ramírez No entiendo su pregunta?
Es Mi pregunta es Que como se llaman las barras que sujetan las llantas traseras
+Genaro Llanas Ramírez Tal vez las extensiones basculante? www.brocksperformance.com/Bolton-Swingarm-Extension-37-Black+I625522+C39.aspx
+Genaro Llanas Ramírez O, basculante extendida? www.brocksperformance.com/AlumiPro-Swing-Arm-W6-Slot-NOS-tray-28-Over-+I635275+C39.aspx
+Brock Davidson Esas Son Muchas gracias Esas pueden ser para cualquier tipo de moto verdad
is all of that information and suggestions for that type shock only, and drag bikes? im on regular cbr1krr
Primarily, yes. Use your OEM service manual for general street and enhanced cornering.