The reason for the contract is that Celestia knew that the Archon's would be exposed to forbidden knowledge during the fight with khaenri'ah. The contract was was made to prevent Celestia from having to kill the Archon's afterward.
can you elaborate on this? im curious what you mean by this. I get celestia probably reasoned the archons would encounter forbidden knowledge, but how did the contracts change anything?
I think it has something to do with the archons and the need to have human followers to gain power if they have to have human followers then they means they have to love humans and Celestia knew that eventually they would find out about forbidden knowledge and that the archons would want to save humanity. So the contract would be fell safe to make sure that the archons could not save the humans that They naturally loved. Why would Celestia kill the humanity that they also love well the samsara cycles. I think they need to recycle all of the energy that is within the firmament and that would mean having to reboot everyone and everything because forbidden knowledge would be corrupting it continually almost like having to clean out a fish tank eventually it's going to accumulate waste and you're going to have to clean out the fish tank so that the fish can live their best lives. It would make sense that they archons wouldn't be okay with everyone in their nation getting cltr alt deleted just so they could powerwash teyvat of abyss build up.
I'm speculating that it has something to do with erosion, we know Zhongli has been around for a long time. Maybe he agreed to help and remain silent in exchange for keeping memories of a precious one or something. Maybe it's a samsara cycle and he can remember someone from last cycle or something.
About the contract that Zhongli signed, I think it is somehow related to all the knowledge that Archons have, and which they aren't allowed to share with the Traveler. Such as how Visions are distributed. Perhaps the contract provides Archons with that knowledge, while at the same time demanding that they do not share it further. And somehow, the events in Kaenri'ah fall into the category covered by that contract. At least this way, Archons would not need to negotiate a contract as Kaenri'ah is burning. Finally, a word on the Sustainer cubes sent to Kaenri'ah. I wonder if they're actually more like rescue boats, carrying people of Kaenri'ah out of the disaster zone. I mean, they did not kill the Traveler or the Sibling. And they don't seem to be hurled as projectiles, but moving in an orderly fashion.
ur not wrong about the cubes. i read a wonderful analogy recently that went something like "if you see puddles at a burnt house, do you assume it was water that did the damage?"
The deleted Zhongli's voiceline about Celestia where he sounds like a college student away from his hometown makes me wonder what relations does he have to Celestia.
those old voicelines are very interesting. theres a bunch of venti ones, including one where he speaks about focalor that makes no sense in todays lore. so its safe to say ALOT has changed since then
The blue sky/red sky thing might be something Hoyo didn't bother to reveal much about the story at the very start, like companies always do when they don't want to give too much away. The twins could have seen the destruction of the war and were like "HAHA NOPE" and dipped. But you think something so heavy for the lore would have been added to the intro to get players much more interested about a new game
if it was another company i would agree with u but as someone who played honkai impact for years when it come to the story hoyo dont do anything without a reason or that it would matter later
@@Tenebris.noct23yeah, it wouldn’t make sense: also, the doctor did say to Nahida, “The sky is fake.” So it’s possible that the redness of the sky, and the sky that is in the trailer is two different things. (This fact is also supported by Mona’s chr dialogue, which talks about how her predictions don’t match that of the sky’s, and how her master and the rest of the witches also know that.)
Thanks for the Higu reference lol I’m a big fan. Makes me wonder just what the relationship between the Archons and Celestia really is. So much to uncover!
I’m impressed by the amount of videos that you have made involving the heavenly principles and the primordial one, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars considering the lack of lore about them. Great video as always.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Can’t argue with that. Especially since “The Primordial One, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars” is essentially your catchphrase lol. Also your videos got me to restart playing genshin on a new account for the first time in quite a while as I have time now and well I got kinda hooked lmao so thanks cause it’s fun. Just met Zhongli after like around 2 weeks of playing.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia that’s the plan. Finished Liyue part 2 with Zhongli and just met Ganyu and although I know the general storyline of the game, it’s still a lot of fun and I hope I am caught up by the time Natlan comes around in a few versions as it’s definitely going to be great and hopefully reveals some important lore. Zhongli is so funny in Liyue part 2 if you know his identity lmao. He’s setting up a funeral for himself lol.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Gabriel Agreste is a Main villian in the French TV show called Miraculous Lady Bug. Gabriel in the show has an Alter ego called "Hawk moth" which he uses to try and resurect his dead wife keeping this secret from his son. that's why I made the comparison. Also because Zhongli's English VA Keith Silverstien is also the English VA for Gabriel Agreste.
"What happen back there we could NOT ignore it." - Makoto "Th great sinner Gold" "These dumb sages didnt listen to me bruh and were are they now ? Destroyed" something along those lines. - Pierro So yeah nothing is truelly black or white but most of it just feels like they did it to themselves. They played with forces they couldnt controle (Forbidden Knowledge, black mud, miasma, power from beyond etc...) they possibly opened forcefully an entrace to teyvat breaking the eggshell a lil bit and monstruosity ans filf came to the world. Im sure its why Alice has to Protect and look after Teyvat border now Also Dainsleif doesnt like the gods (reasonnable) but does not hate them persay. As he understand why they had to stop that sht. The same way Kazuha doesnt hate Sara and Raiden for beating and killing his friend (at it was a fair dual before the throne) but skill doesnt want to be around them (he still lost a friend after all) kind of situation
dain might not hate all gods, but im certain he does hate the 7. The reason he refused to meet Andrius was because he stated that andrius was an ancient god who willingly became a servant of one of the seven, and as such he desired no interaction with him.
Finally someone says it! They had it coming! And as a fellow black man who keeps getting called white just because I know how to speak proper English I salute you 🫡 take this subscription and keep it up’
Man 0:11 that wink kills me everytime ahahaha. You are such a freakin legend man. I'm really looking forward to see your Khaenri'ah theories when 4.6 or 4.7 released. Don't wanna spoil anything for anyone but I think Dainsleif is around the corner or somewhere we can't access. (for now but we will soon :d)
It is so interesting that no one accept Scaramouche can give the Traveler any information about their sibling. Of course Pierro the Jester, told Scaramouche about the Travelers sibling living with him prior to the fall of Khaenri’ah and the cataclysm. This was before Pierro become the Jester and created the Fatui. Dainslief spouts poetry, but gives erosin as his excuse for not being able to help the traveler. Venti greets the Traveler, again, then when the Traveler expresses surprise and no memory of Venti, he laughs and backs off. Zhongli is tied up in this contract to someone or something and to continue his comfortable, quiet life, will not suffer the wrath of the rock. Pitiful that everyone wants the Traveler’s help, but no one is willing or able to help the Traveler.
I do think it's curious how the twins were supposedly summon by Khaenri'ah, and they were supposed to benefit the nation in some way, but when they tried to leave Teyvat during the cataclysm, it was Celestia who stopped them. Like, couldn’t the sustainer have just let them leave??? There's definitely something important there but I'm not smart enough to figure it out
Oh, you're black thank god lmao. The fact we don't ask Venti anything is super irritating. Like watching a movie where everything could be fixed if people would have one fucking conversation, but you're forced to watch everyone being excruciatingly dumb until the very last minute. The way Zhongli says "before it *all* began" sounds more to me like before the ordering of the world. It's an assumption, but if he were talking about Khaenri'ah specifically, I'd expect to hear him say "before the Cataclysm began" or "the war" or something. About Celestia being empty - there was a moment in Chenyu Vale that stuck out to me. In the middle of the quest where we repair the tea pot in the village? We ask the person why it needs to be repaired, or why it broke down or something, and the person replies that _Anything left alone for ages will eventually break down and stop functioning_ (paraphrased). And I dunno why but it sounded to me like they were talking about something else. Like it was the writers' clue to think about other, larger systems left alone for ages. And Genshin, especially lately, loves to do this sort of storytelling where a smaller story reflects the larger story going on, I can't help but think that was deliberate.
ahaha yes i am. the thing about celestia makes me wonder though, if no one is up there then what is even its purpose? If teyvat can operate perfectly line like it is rn then what does celestia even do lmfao
It's likely the case that Zhonli signed a contract, as part of him obtaining the Gnosis, to protect Celestia and keep silent about its secrets. Or something to that extent. I don't think it was specific to Khaen'riah, as forbidden knowledge was a problem in Teyvat for a significantly longer period of time than just there. Also, I've read somewhere that the area we were in at the beginning of the game was *NOT* Celestia... that was the Celestial Atlas, an area that acts as a sort of intermediary between Teyvat and other worlds. You see this same area in the loading screen. Allegedly it's outside the Firmament.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia - I refer to "intermediary" in the sense that there's bound to be *something* between the Firmament that protects Teyvat and the rest of reality. It's like they shoved Teyvat into a massive glass ball. There's still air around the ball, it's not untouchable.
PLOT TWIST: The Archons weren't summoned by Celestia to -destroy- Khaenriah, they were -convinced- to go there to -help- them. They helped break Silver, also known as the 2nd to last of the 4 stages of Alchemy, also known as PAIMON, into the Gnoses, in order to create the Traveler, whom Albedo was a prototype for, and give him/her a reason to travel Teyvat and RE-COLLECT the Gnoses, slowly unraveling and learning the Truth of this world. That Celesia isn't what they seem, may not have ever existed at all except in the form of a lie, and Teyvat belongs to the Dragons.
Zhongli said that he signed that contract (most likely with celestia) "before it all began", that could be reffering to before he officially became Liyue's archon, if that is true then could what he gained in exchange be his gnosis? As it could be of equal value??
I don't know if you watched a certain video of that Wei guy that extrapolates theories within genshin lore and game inputs, it's titled something like: zhongli been hiding this secret for two years...
Joke? No that was serious. When does Zhongli's contract get signed? If it's prior to the Cataclysm the only other date that sticks out is his becoming an Archon. Also presumably other Archons live by the same rules. Again, you mentioned there must have been some benefit to signing on to the contract. Becoming an Archon, since it is seen as some sort of prize, could be that benefit. In short when you join the Archons you must not talk about Archon stuff. I was just trying to be concise when I referred to another group in popular culture that had similar rules. Wait-- was I funny?@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
Alice who live through the cataclysm and a friend to Gold who is to said is cause of the cataclysm: Sign this contract or I'll nuke your nation!!! Morax: Yes ma'am.
wait, people literally dont think youre black? but you definitely sound black. maybe not "traditional", but i can definitely hear it, and thank you for finally confirming it for me xD. some people tho x,D
i should also preface, i have a black friend we call "whitie", because he ACTS white. dont talk white, but certainly acts white, and he dont give a fck, lol
Easiest real world explanation: blanket NDA covering everything you do for the company before you accept your job that extends for X years after you employment ends. Super common IRL and industry best practices transfers to Teyvat. And what did he receive? The gnosis/his position. It does not have to be complicated.
The contract was made before it began, so before the cataclysm. And the first thing that the travellers experienced when landing in Teyvat was the cataclysm... I think its stated on their character story...
they made them have *A Progenitor Orgy Hailing From Beyond The Stars* it was so extreme that they were all marked for life Venti became an alcoholic and even relapsed after having a 500 years intervention Zhongli signed a non disclosure agreement as a way to cope and never bring up the situation again Makoto literally died (prolly from Zhongli's pilar) Murata started a war in her country *its still going* Focalors made herself a new body (probably felt too dirty) and Tsaritsa outright choose rebelion me the nonsense Archon was only sad i couldn't see the sustainer in action
The theory that the Heavenly Principles are just incredibly incompetent leaders is one of my favorites. My Name For Now's most recent and ridiculously long video proposes a theory that might support this idea... If you know, you know. Primordial One stuff and all that. Anyways, I think Celestia is supposed to guide humanity to enlightenment, but they really don't have a clue how to do it and they probably also don't understand the damage they've done. Or they do, and they're panicking up there trying to fix things and ended up letting the archons do their own thing without interference as a result. That's a funny visual... A) "Gods above, we fucked up! We gotta do something!" B) "We ARE the gods, what are you saying bro-" and then someone accidentally drops another Celestial Nail. C) "There goes the rainforest. Look what you've done now!" A) "Shut up I swear to God-" B) "...and you did it again. At least think before you use our names in vain." A) "I do NOT care, I'm doing it anyway! D) "Can someone please figure out a way to fix this damn planet before another one of you does something stupid?" A) "You know what? Maybe Rex Lapis had the right idea. I quit!" B, C, D) "You're a Shade, you literally can't quit your job you idiot-" Something catches their attention and they look down, only to see that the Cryo Archon has collected another Gnosis. A, B, C, D) "..." D) "Well, fuck." Also, if the Heavenly Principles really are incompetent, then it's probably not the original Primordial One who's up there leading things. It's more likely to be the Second Who Came.
It's actually been confirmed by Neuvilette's character bio (with high enough friendship) that the Second Who Came lost the war. "Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other. " This also suggests that the very creation of the Gnoses is what triggered the Archon War. It also seems to suggest that the gods involved (who became the Archons eventually) might be fragments of the Primordial One? Surely Neuvilette isn't being so literal here....
@@DrakeWurrum That's fascinating, but it could also serve as evidence that the original Primordial One is gone. They are referred to as the Usurper on many occasions. Maybe it's so vague on which of the two lost the war on purpose because the Second Who Came is trying to hide the fact that they're in control now. This doesn't discredit your idea, it's just a suggestion for an alternative perspective on this text. Also, the theory that the archons are fragments of the Primordial One is interesting and could provide an answer as to where the Primordial One went after they lost. Oh, and the reason why the Primordial One is referred to as the Usurper is because they are the one who took over Teyvat when it was still ruled by dragons.
@@catdownthestreet - There's no vagueness whatsoever in Neuvilette's character bio. The Primordial One, a.k.a. the Usurper, was victorious, but greatly weakened.
I prefer to think about that final question from the other way around. That is to say, how much value does Celestia place in the twins that Princess either A) Was willing to put the cataclysm matter on hold for a few minutes to intercept them or B) As you said, was willing to leave in the middle of the cataclysm to stop them.
this is a good point. adding onto this, lets not forget, the sustainer knew they were both outlanders, AND that they were on a journey. So they were clearly aware of them for some time
Here's the thing tho... I don't think that place at the beginning cutscene is Celestia at all. If you get a good look at the island in the sky, it doesn't resemble this place in any way; it's round, has buildings, tower, etc. and it doesn't look anything like the place Vennesa reached when she ascended in the manga. Also, the twins had no intentions of going to Celestia, they just wanted to dip. IMO, his place is more of a platform to make the jump out of this world. BTW, this place is physically over Mondtstat, there are folks who have reached it that have videos on it. I'm aware of the inscription on Venti's statue, but that bridge could still be like Bifrost (in Norse mythology). I mean, we walk thru it until we reach a door to enter this world when we log in to the game, so it can be just outside it, but still somewhat part of it.
Hmm... This is a speculation. But, if our sibling is the Princess/Prince. Then there's a possibility the Abyss has a King or Queen. Do y'all think Morax made a deal with them. So they don't harm the surface of Teyvat. But, as all contracts are it has its limits. I wonder if that's why the Unknown God sent our sibling to the Abyss like a spy for her. While the other sibling takes care of the problems in Teyvat. Just to prevent what happened 500 yrs ago. The Cataclysm that almost swallowed Teyvat.
it's usually which white which is associated with the good guys and black with the bad guys. Even though black people can be nice we automatickly think of someone as white whom we see as a good person cause the it's white which reminds us of that person. Due that reason many may have actually thought someone as such as yourself as white.
But what if the second party of Zhongli's contract was Nicole. I mean she sees the future and she was able to give us intel during the archon quests in the past. Maybe she made Zhongli sign the contract kinda like Furina and Focalors, Furina had no choice but to stay silent for all those years otherwise the prophecy would come true, could it be something similar perhaps? Or maybe it was with our sibling, she already traveled this world so it would be impossible for Zhongli and Venti to not have met them, maybe when the Khaenri'ah was being destroyed she seek help but because of the Archon ties with Celestia they could help, but somehow the archons were aware of what celestia truly is, I mean they're pretty old, they sure know the tea by now. And because we're still "unconcious", our sibling made a deal with them to not say to us that they met them because we need to see with our own eyes the truth and that's why when we finally meet them they say that we need reach the end of the journey, to see this truth with our own eyes because we're the last piece of the puzzle to knock down Celestia for good. I mean it kinda make sense.
you bring up an interesting point regarding our sibilings relationships with the gods. However Im curious if u change ur mind when reminded our sibilings journey took place some 400-500 years ago.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia What do you mean by change my mind? They surely in some shape or form had somekind of relationship with the gods. If they already traveled this world maybe searching for us like we do now, they met the Archons. Our sibling's journey started in Khaenri'ah 400-500 years ago as you said and as far as we know, because she traveled with Dainslief and we don't know much of what happened with our sibling(other than the war in Khaenri'ah ofc) from when our sibling started the journey until we woke up. Now I don't remember exactly if they started before or after the Khaenri'ah war, like when it started or when was almost over. But that makes me think, we have the choice to play as one of the siblings and they coexist in the same timeline, what if the whole point that we can play as one of them is to give some sort of point of view about our sibling's journey? Like we got some bits and pieces of what they did and we have to put the pieces back together with what we've experienced so far. Also they assisted some part of the war or all of it I don't remember, they know what Celestia is capable of. Knowing that, the theory of them being behind two of the OG Archons not being able to speak about what happened it's not that far off. We are getting like one quest every new Region about our sibling like we're travelling at the same time just in a parallel universe, which is also what kinda happens when you choose which sibling you want to play as, the have the same journey. Sorry I know it's not really related but with theories my mind just travels at lightspeed and I just wanted to say this. Love theories and love yours too
aw thanks lol :D what i meant to say was 500 years ago, the status of the archons was may have been different then it was now. Venti for instance (i believe) awoke several months before the start of the game to deal with stormterror, but usually hes just in a deep sleep. Zhongli had just retired right when we came to liyue which gave us plenty of time to become acquainted with him. But prior to that he was appearing once a year in liyue. Now granted his Zhongli vessel may have been around given Zhongli was the one who guided Alice in liyue. Ei was in the plane of euthymia. Nahida was locked up. Focalors was in the oratrice. So what I mean to ask is when could our sibiling have met any of the above archons?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I don't think they met the Archons we know, didn't most of them got replaced after the Khaenri'ah war because the previous ones died? Venti I know he may have not been around, I didn't know about daddy Zhongli's retirement, but he was still around and for my theory to be valid our siblig must have met him. But I think they ecountered the previous Archons also like Makoto, Grater Lord Rukkadevata, Egeria, which is why most of the newer Archons that we've ecounterrd so far don't know anything about our sibling, even Ei said that she wasn't around at that time. If you think about it we've never asked any of the previous Archons about our sibling. Makoto's conciousness was there and we didn't say a thing, same with Rukkadevata.
I’m sorry I just started the video but why does the first picture of “the primordial one, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars” remind me of Patrick from SpongeBob???
😶😶 you know why our sister work with abys because fake pramodial one change memory and it's change all characters fate too here is many desender but after memory change here is only 4 desender 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 both siblings are desender zhongli is desender pramodial one or dragon king niblung are desender too but after memory change all fate changed so only 4 desender is here all characters fate is changed
I mean...I know this is a serious conversation but let's all be for real: That "contract" is just hoyoverse being aware that they couldn't continue the mistery if the traveler were to ask someone who remembers everything since 6000 years ago lol Now, I don't think the contract was about Khaenriah specifically. Maybe, it was about forbidden knowledge, since we know there were incidents regarding it before(? Idk, I firmly believe in my initial theory 🤣 And abt the Sustainer going after us while the world was ending...It makes me think that the sibling was heavily involved in the cataclysm. The sustainer even says something about the arrogance of the humans and stuff when she fights them
Celestia shill? Oh im so disappointed. This used to be a good channel. Knowing you could be so wrong about celestia, i have to doubt the entire channels accuracy
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia like you sound like one of those self proclaimed Black nerds. If they had an accent that’s what you sound like rather than a straight whiteccent
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia you sound like one of those self proclaimed Black nerds instead of having a full on whiteccent or sounding like you were in one of them racial chat rooms
It was probably a contract with a visionary
dude. i just fucking gasped when i read this, holy shit you could be right. how did i completely forget about this.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia 😎😎😎
The reason for the contract is that Celestia knew that the Archon's would be exposed to forbidden knowledge during the fight with khaenri'ah. The contract was was made to prevent Celestia from having to kill the Archon's afterward.
can you elaborate on this? im curious what you mean by this. I get celestia probably reasoned the archons would encounter forbidden knowledge, but how did the contracts change anything?
I think it has something to do with the archons and the need to have human followers to gain power if they have to have human followers then they means they have to love humans and Celestia knew that eventually they would find out about forbidden knowledge and that the archons would want to save humanity. So the contract would be fell safe to make sure that the archons could not save the humans that They naturally loved. Why would Celestia kill the humanity that they also love well the samsara cycles. I think they need to recycle all of the energy that is within the firmament and that would mean having to reboot everyone and everything because forbidden knowledge would be corrupting it continually almost like having to clean out a fish tank eventually it's going to accumulate waste and you're going to have to clean out the fish tank so that the fish can live their best lives. It would make sense that they archons wouldn't be okay with everyone in their nation getting cltr alt deleted just so they could powerwash teyvat of abyss build up.
I'm speculating that it has something to do with erosion, we know Zhongli has been around for a long time. Maybe he agreed to help and remain silent in exchange for keeping memories of a precious one or something. Maybe it's a samsara cycle and he can remember someone from last cycle or something.
this could be VERY interesting
Last time I was this early I was born prematurely. Thank the PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS
bro WHAT LMFAO
About the contract that Zhongli signed, I think it is somehow related to all the knowledge that Archons have, and which they aren't allowed to share with the Traveler. Such as how Visions are distributed.
Perhaps the contract provides Archons with that knowledge, while at the same time demanding that they do not share it further. And somehow, the events in Kaenri'ah fall into the category covered by that contract.
At least this way, Archons would not need to negotiate a contract as Kaenri'ah is burning.
Finally, a word on the Sustainer cubes sent to Kaenri'ah. I wonder if they're actually more like rescue boats, carrying people of Kaenri'ah out of the disaster zone. I mean, they did not kill the Traveler or the Sibling. And they don't seem to be hurled as projectiles, but moving in an orderly fashion.
ur not wrong about the cubes. i read a wonderful analogy recently that went something like
"if you see puddles at a burnt house, do you assume it was water that did the damage?"
The deleted Zhongli's voiceline about Celestia where he sounds like a college student away from his hometown makes me wonder what relations does he have to Celestia.
those old voicelines are very interesting. theres a bunch of venti ones, including one where he speaks about focalor that makes no sense in todays lore. so its safe to say ALOT has changed since then
I believe I might know the answer.
Your lack of faith in the primordial one ( a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars) is disturbing
LMAO i make one video playing devils advocate and this is what happens huh
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia teyvat has its own laws
The blue sky/red sky thing might be something Hoyo didn't bother to reveal much about the story at the very start, like companies always do when they don't want to give too much away. The twins could have seen the destruction of the war and were like "HAHA NOPE" and dipped. But you think something so heavy for the lore would have been added to the intro to get players much more interested about a new game
ah could be
if it was another company i would agree with u but as someone who played honkai impact for years when it come to the story hoyo dont do anything without a reason or that it would matter later
@@Tenebris.noct23yeah, it wouldn’t make sense: also, the doctor did say to Nahida, “The sky is fake.” So it’s possible that the redness of the sky, and the sky that is in the trailer is two different things. (This fact is also supported by Mona’s chr dialogue, which talks about how her predictions don’t match that of the sky’s, and how her master and the rest of the witches also know that.)
Thanks for the Higu reference lol I’m a big fan. Makes me wonder just what the relationship between the Archons and Celestia really is. So much to uncover!
YAYA ANOTHER HIGU FAN :D
No, It was the AMBER LORD AN ANCIENT GOD FROM BEYOND THE STARS
whats up with u and qlipoth recently
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Because Pier Point will have some bad bitches
Qlipoth followers booooo 👎 convert to Phanes
5:20 giving the same energy as Hades from the Disney Hercules movie
just because of this comment im gonna go back and watch that movie right now, i fucking loved it growing up
I’m impressed by the amount of videos that you have made involving the heavenly principles and the primordial one, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars considering the lack of lore about them. Great video as always.
when theres a will theres a way
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Can’t argue with that. Especially since “The Primordial One, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars” is essentially your catchphrase lol. Also your videos got me to restart playing genshin on a new account for the first time in quite a while as I have time now and well I got kinda hooked lmao so thanks cause it’s fun. Just met Zhongli after like around 2 weeks of playing.
DUDE NO WAY AHAHA WELCOME BACK. COMPLETE THE CONTENT AND PREP YOURSELF FOR NATLAN COMRADE
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia that’s the plan. Finished Liyue part 2 with Zhongli and just met Ganyu and although I know the general storyline of the game, it’s still a lot of fun and I hope I am caught up by the time Natlan comes around in a few versions as it’s definitely going to be great and hopefully reveals some important lore. Zhongli is so funny in Liyue part 2 if you know his identity lmao. He’s setting up a funeral for himself lol.
made it a whole whopping eleven seconds before mentioning the PRIMORDIAL ONE - A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS - good on you ,mate.
HAHAHA
Just wanted to say I love your content! You're the only genshin content creator I can keep watching anymore. Keep at it bro ur goated
aw and i love u
Zhongli keeps secrets
So did Gabriel Agreste.
who tf is that
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Gabriel Agreste is a Main villian in the French TV show called Miraculous Lady Bug. Gabriel in the show has an Alter ego called "Hawk moth" which he uses to try and resurect his dead wife keeping this secret from his son. that's why I made the comparison. Also because Zhongli's English VA Keith Silverstien is also the English VA for Gabriel Agreste.
"What happen back there we could NOT ignore it."
- Makoto
"Th great sinner Gold"
"These dumb sages didnt listen to me bruh and were are they now ? Destroyed" something along those lines.
- Pierro
So yeah nothing is truelly black or white but most of it just feels like they did it to themselves.
They played with forces they couldnt controle (Forbidden Knowledge, black mud, miasma, power from beyond etc...) they possibly opened forcefully an entrace to teyvat breaking the eggshell a lil bit and monstruosity ans filf came to the world.
Im sure its why Alice has to Protect and look after Teyvat border now
Also Dainsleif doesnt like the gods (reasonnable) but does not hate them persay. As he understand why they had to stop that sht.
The same way Kazuha doesnt hate Sara and Raiden for beating and killing his friend (at it was a fair dual before the throne) but skill doesnt want to be around them (he still lost a friend after all)
kind of situation
dain might not hate all gods, but im certain he does hate the 7. The reason he refused to meet Andrius was because he stated that andrius was an ancient god who willingly became a servant of one of the seven, and as such he desired no interaction with him.
0:09 DEVOUT FOLLOWERS OF THE PRIMORDIAL ONE A PROGENITOR GOD HAILING FROM BEYOND THE STARS UNITE 🔥🔥🔥🔊🔊🔊🔊
5:34 This is canon btw no one can tell me otherwise
fancy meeting u here no diluc
Finally someone says it! They had it coming!
And as a fellow black man who keeps getting called white just because I know how to speak proper English I salute you 🫡 take this subscription and keep it up’
haha hell yea
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia all I know is when this this story is over no matter what Sustainer did nothing wrong
Man 0:11 that wink kills me everytime ahahaha. You are such a freakin legend man. I'm really looking forward to see your Khaenri'ah theories when 4.6 or 4.7 released. Don't wanna spoil anything for anyone but I think Dainsleif is around the corner or somewhere we can't access. (for now but we will soon :d)
man ur scaring me. i was praying he would be 4.5
how did you know im around the corner
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia can't say anything but I always loved old battlefields...
@@UltraInstinct509 Hax
@@maxenite 😂
It is so interesting that no one accept Scaramouche can give the Traveler any information about their sibling. Of course Pierro the Jester, told Scaramouche about the Travelers sibling living with him prior to the fall of Khaenri’ah and the cataclysm. This was before Pierro become the Jester and created the Fatui. Dainslief spouts poetry, but gives erosin as his excuse for not being able to help the traveler. Venti greets the Traveler, again, then when the Traveler expresses surprise and no memory of Venti, he laughs and backs off. Zhongli is tied up in this contract to someone or something and to continue his comfortable, quiet life, will not suffer the wrath of the rock. Pitiful that everyone wants the Traveler’s help, but no one is willing or able to help the Traveler.
Zhongli cranked his hog in khaneriah
gave her the ol spin did he?
11:02 Does that mean Zhongli was the PRIMORDIAL ONE THE PROGENATOR GOD WHO CAME FROM BEYOND THE STARS?
I do think it's curious how the twins were supposedly summon by Khaenri'ah, and they were supposed to benefit the nation in some way, but when they tried to leave Teyvat during the cataclysm, it was Celestia who stopped them. Like, couldn’t the sustainer have just let them leave??? There's definitely something important there but I'm not smart enough to figure it out
scar did add that the "heavens responded to the summoning" whatever that entails however, isnt really known
Oh, you're black thank god lmao.
The fact we don't ask Venti anything is super irritating. Like watching a movie where everything could be fixed if people would have one fucking conversation, but you're forced to watch everyone being excruciatingly dumb until the very last minute.
The way Zhongli says "before it *all* began" sounds more to me like before the ordering of the world. It's an assumption, but if he were talking about Khaenri'ah specifically, I'd expect to hear him say "before the Cataclysm began" or "the war" or something.
About Celestia being empty - there was a moment in Chenyu Vale that stuck out to me. In the middle of the quest where we repair the tea pot in the village? We ask the person why it needs to be repaired, or why it broke down or something, and the person replies that _Anything left alone for ages will eventually break down and stop functioning_ (paraphrased). And I dunno why but it sounded to me like they were talking about something else. Like it was the writers' clue to think about other, larger systems left alone for ages. And Genshin, especially lately, loves to do this sort of storytelling where a smaller story reflects the larger story going on, I can't help but think that was deliberate.
ahaha yes i am.
the thing about celestia makes me wonder though, if no one is up there then what is even its purpose? If teyvat can operate perfectly line like it is rn then what does celestia even do lmfao
It's likely the case that Zhonli signed a contract, as part of him obtaining the Gnosis, to protect Celestia and keep silent about its secrets. Or something to that extent. I don't think it was specific to Khaen'riah, as forbidden knowledge was a problem in Teyvat for a significantly longer period of time than just there.
Also, I've read somewhere that the area we were in at the beginning of the game was *NOT* Celestia... that was the Celestial Atlas, an area that acts as a sort of intermediary between Teyvat and other worlds. You see this same area in the loading screen. Allegedly it's outside the Firmament.
why would teyvat have an intermediary between itself and other worlds if its shut itself off completely from other worlds
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia - I refer to "intermediary" in the sense that there's bound to be *something* between the Firmament that protects Teyvat and the rest of reality.
It's like they shoved Teyvat into a massive glass ball. There's still air around the ball, it's not untouchable.
10 seconds in and we already get the ₱Ɽł₥ØⱤĐł₳Ⱡ Ø₦Ɇ reference, dawit is top tier content 💀
lol. bro
5:50 I'm amazed you still get those comments.
that was all meant in good fun lol idm
PLOT TWIST: The Archons weren't summoned by Celestia to -destroy- Khaenriah, they were -convinced- to go there to -help- them. They helped break Silver, also known as the 2nd to last of the 4 stages of Alchemy, also known as PAIMON, into the Gnoses, in order to create the Traveler, whom Albedo was a prototype for, and give him/her a reason to travel Teyvat and RE-COLLECT the Gnoses, slowly unraveling and learning the Truth of this world. That Celesia isn't what they seem, may not have ever existed at all except in the form of a lie, and Teyvat belongs to the Dragons.
i mean clearly they did something to make everyone from khaenriah to hate them. its not like they came and just gave food and water
Good shit keep it up bro 👍
:D
Smash.
I mean I completely agree with your statement. (I haven’t got passed the intro yet.)
We haven't seen a nail inna while... I wonder if that is on purpose
the fact that we still dont know where sumerus nail is, is absurd
wait wtf... i didnt even think of that😳@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
@@SIPATGaming actually im wrong, I completely forgot its under the eternal oasis lol (or it should be)
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia have we actually seen it? Or was it just in text because I don’t remember it AT ALL
@@SIPATGaming we havent seen it and probably never will. King Deshret found the nail and built the eternal oasis over it
you have the exact vibes of a deranged discord call, subscribed
LMFAO BRO WHAT
we also have to consider the existence of the irminsul and the possibility of change people's memories about what happened.
that holds true for everything before we came
what if bro just has dementia
dude called it a “contract” to cover it up 😭
u might be on to something
If you research “Seven ideas for seven archons” it will give you more info on the contracts between the Gods and Heavenly Principles
sure ill give it a gander
Zhongli said that he signed that contract (most likely with celestia) "before it all began", that could be reffering to before he officially became Liyue's archon, if that is true then could what he gained in exchange be his gnosis? As it could be of equal value??
Imagine the gods did their jobs in regards about khaenri'ah, but somehow, some gods got corrupted by forbidden knowledge and turned to each other. :00
there would be precedent. the moon sisters turned on eachother, so why not the gods?
5:49 dude starting drawing on the test
i am crying
Dawait may be the biggest Primordial one glazer 🙏😭😭😭💀
fancy meeting u here again lords. lead any good crusades recently?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia yes
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I have against the delusional Ei fans
The dragons will rise again 😠
khaenri'ah will rise again 😠
Celestia will fall 🌠
I don't know if you watched a certain video of that Wei guy that extrapolates theories within genshin lore and game inputs, it's titled something like: zhongli been hiding this secret for two years...
i can check it out
Sign. The. Contract. NOW
ltg that u?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia itg?
low tier god
Ohhh I've only heard of that guy from the fgc from a friend 😂😂
zhongli is the 2nd descender
The first rule of Archon Club is... don't talk about Archon Club!
oh my god david johnson telling a joke, ive seen it all
Joke? No that was serious. When does Zhongli's contract get signed? If it's prior to the Cataclysm the only other date that sticks out is his becoming an Archon. Also presumably other Archons live by the same rules. Again, you mentioned there must have been some benefit to signing on to the contract. Becoming an Archon, since it is seen as some sort of prize, could be that benefit.
In short when you join the Archons you must not talk about Archon stuff. I was just trying to be concise when I referred to another group in popular culture that had similar rules.
Wait-- was I funny?@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
i mean sure i get ur point but u did it in fight club style. that was good
Alice who live through the cataclysm and a friend to Gold who is to said is cause of the cataclysm: Sign this contract or I'll nuke your nation!!!
Morax: Yes ma'am.
lmao
wait, people literally dont think youre black? but you definitely sound black. maybe not "traditional", but i can definitely hear it, and thank you for finally confirming it for me xD. some people tho x,D
i should also preface, i have a black friend we call "whitie", because he ACTS white. dont talk white, but certainly acts white, and he dont give a fck, lol
i find it funny
10:44 I agree she’s amazing 💫
Easiest real world explanation: blanket NDA covering everything you do for the company before you accept your job that extends for X years after you employment ends. Super common IRL and industry best practices transfers to Teyvat. And what did he receive? The gnosis/his position. It does not have to be complicated.
he recieved his gnosis and position ages before khaenriah though
it's a contract with our sibling
bold statement. but when would our sibiling have met zhongli before the cataclsym?
The contract was made before it began, so before the cataclysm. And the first thing that the travellers experienced when landing in Teyvat was the cataclysm... I think its stated on their character story...
they made them have *A Progenitor Orgy Hailing From Beyond The Stars*
it was so extreme that they were all marked for life
Venti became an alcoholic and even relapsed after having a 500 years intervention
Zhongli signed a non disclosure agreement as a way to cope and never bring up the situation again
Makoto literally died (prolly from Zhongli's pilar)
Murata started a war in her country *its still going*
Focalors made herself a new body (probably felt too dirty)
and Tsaritsa outright choose rebelion
me the nonsense Archon was only sad i couldn't see the sustainer in action
Zhongli is put up as an example to be silenced by the contract just like beta tester cannot share leaks materials by mihoyo
LMAO ACTUALLY THOUGH
#JusticeForKaenriah
no
They don’t have black friends I think
LMAO
The theory that the Heavenly Principles are just incredibly incompetent leaders is one of my favorites. My Name For Now's most recent and ridiculously long video proposes a theory that might support this idea... If you know, you know. Primordial One stuff and all that.
Anyways, I think Celestia is supposed to guide humanity to enlightenment, but they really don't have a clue how to do it and they probably also don't understand the damage they've done. Or they do, and they're panicking up there trying to fix things and ended up letting the archons do their own thing without interference as a result.
That's a funny visual...
A) "Gods above, we fucked up! We gotta do something!"
B) "We ARE the gods, what are you saying bro-"
and then someone accidentally drops another Celestial Nail.
C) "There goes the rainforest. Look what you've done now!"
A) "Shut up I swear to God-"
B) "...and you did it again. At least think before you use our names in vain."
A) "I do NOT care, I'm doing it anyway!
D) "Can someone please figure out a way to fix this damn planet before another one of you does something stupid?"
A) "You know what? Maybe Rex Lapis had the right idea. I quit!"
B, C, D) "You're a Shade, you literally can't quit your job you idiot-"
Something catches their attention and they look down, only to see that the Cryo Archon has collected another Gnosis.
A, B, C, D) "..."
D) "Well, fuck."
Also, if the Heavenly Principles really are incompetent, then it's probably not the original Primordial One who's up there leading things. It's more likely to be the Second Who Came.
AHAHAHAHAAH THE VISUAL
It's actually been confirmed by Neuvilette's character bio (with high enough friendship) that the Second Who Came lost the war.
"Severely wounded in the great war of vengeance, the usurper had their functions ruined, and could no longer use their absolute authority to suppress the original order of this world. To continue to subdue and control the resentments and loathing of the world, the usurper and one who came after created the Gnoses together. So it came to be that an order was made to be upheld, and thus did humans come to only possess these seven remembrances, and all fragments of the primordial were driven to devour each other. "
This also suggests that the very creation of the Gnoses is what triggered the Archon War. It also seems to suggest that the gods involved (who became the Archons eventually) might be fragments of the Primordial One? Surely Neuvilette isn't being so literal here....
@@DrakeWurrum That's fascinating, but it could also serve as evidence that the original Primordial One is gone. They are referred to as the Usurper on many occasions. Maybe it's so vague on which of the two lost the war on purpose because the Second Who Came is trying to hide the fact that they're in control now.
This doesn't discredit your idea, it's just a suggestion for an alternative perspective on this text. Also, the theory that the archons are fragments of the Primordial One is interesting and could provide an answer as to where the Primordial One went after they lost.
Oh, and the reason why the Primordial One is referred to as the Usurper is because they are the one who took over Teyvat when it was still ruled by dragons.
@@catdownthestreet - There's no vagueness whatsoever in Neuvilette's character bio. The Primordial One, a.k.a. the Usurper, was victorious, but greatly weakened.
@@DrakeWurrum Where does it say that? The excerpt you gave me doesn't say which one it was.
I prefer to think about that final question from the other way around. That is to say, how much value does Celestia place in the twins that Princess either A) Was willing to put the cataclysm matter on hold for a few minutes to intercept them or B) As you said, was willing to leave in the middle of the cataclysm to stop them.
this is a good point. adding onto this, lets not forget, the sustainer knew they were both outlanders, AND that they were on a journey. So they were clearly aware of them for some time
Here's the thing tho... I don't think that place at the beginning cutscene is Celestia at all. If you get a good look at the island in the sky, it doesn't resemble this place in any way; it's round, has buildings, tower, etc. and it doesn't look anything like the place Vennesa reached when she ascended in the manga. Also, the twins had no intentions of going to Celestia, they just wanted to dip. IMO, his place is more of a platform to make the jump out of this world. BTW, this place is physically over Mondtstat, there are folks who have reached it that have videos on it. I'm aware of the inscription on Venti's statue, but that bridge could still be like Bifrost (in Norse mythology). I mean, we walk thru it until we reach a door to enter this world when we log in to the game, so it can be just outside it, but still somewhat part of it.
do u think the door when u boot up the game is celestia?
Hmm... This is a speculation.
But, if our sibling is the Princess/Prince. Then there's a possibility the Abyss has a King or Queen.
Do y'all think Morax made a deal with them. So they don't harm the surface of Teyvat. But, as all contracts are it has its limits.
I wonder if that's why the Unknown God sent our sibling to the Abyss like a spy for her. While the other sibling takes care of the problems in Teyvat.
Just to prevent what happened 500 yrs ago. The Cataclysm that almost swallowed Teyvat.
sibiling going to war with celestia g
it's usually which white which is associated with the good guys and black with the bad guys. Even though black people can be nice we automatickly think of someone as white whom we see as a good person cause the it's white which reminds us of that person. Due that reason many may have actually thought someone as such as yourself as white.
this is certainly one of the all time comments ive gotten on this channel
It's good to apreciate people who deserve it@@DawitsLookingforEmilia
Doesn't Celestia control fate? It would make sense that they'd know what Khaenri'ah would do.
hidden corner where the gods gaze does not fall
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia It's a pretty big fucking corner then.
But what if the second party of Zhongli's contract was Nicole. I mean she sees the future and she was able to give us intel during the archon quests in the past. Maybe she made Zhongli sign the contract kinda like Furina and Focalors, Furina had no choice but to stay silent for all those years otherwise the prophecy would come true, could it be something similar perhaps? Or maybe it was with our sibling, she already traveled this world so it would be impossible for Zhongli and Venti to not have met them, maybe when the Khaenri'ah was being destroyed she seek help but because of the Archon ties with Celestia they could help, but somehow the archons were aware of what celestia truly is, I mean they're pretty old, they sure know the tea by now. And because we're still "unconcious", our sibling made a deal with them to not say to us that they met them because we need to see with our own eyes the truth and that's why when we finally meet them they say that we need reach the end of the journey, to see this truth with our own eyes because we're the last piece of the puzzle to knock down Celestia for good. I mean it kinda make sense.
you bring up an interesting point regarding our sibilings relationships with the gods. However Im curious if u change ur mind when reminded our sibilings journey took place some 400-500 years ago.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia What do you mean by change my mind? They surely in some shape or form had somekind of relationship with the gods. If they already traveled this world maybe searching for us like we do now, they met the Archons. Our sibling's journey started in Khaenri'ah 400-500 years ago as you said and as far as we know, because she traveled with Dainslief and we don't know much of what happened with our sibling(other than the war in Khaenri'ah ofc) from when our sibling started the journey until we woke up. Now I don't remember exactly if they started before or after the Khaenri'ah war, like when it started or when was almost over. But that makes me think, we have the choice to play as one of the siblings and they coexist in the same timeline, what if the whole point that we can play as one of them is to give some sort of point of view about our sibling's journey? Like we got some bits and pieces of what they did and we have to put the pieces back together with what we've experienced so far. Also they assisted some part of the war or all of it I don't remember, they know what Celestia is capable of. Knowing that, the theory of them being behind two of the OG Archons not being able to speak about what happened it's not that far off. We are getting like one quest every new Region about our sibling like we're travelling at the same time just in a parallel universe, which is also what kinda happens when you choose which sibling you want to play as, the have the same journey. Sorry I know it's not really related but with theories my mind just travels at lightspeed and I just wanted to say this. Love theories and love yours too
aw thanks lol :D
what i meant to say was 500 years ago, the status of the archons was may have been different then it was now.
Venti for instance (i believe) awoke several months before the start of the game to deal with stormterror, but usually hes just in a deep sleep.
Zhongli had just retired right when we came to liyue which gave us plenty of time to become acquainted with him. But prior to that he was appearing once a year in liyue. Now granted his Zhongli vessel may have been around given Zhongli was the one who guided Alice in liyue.
Ei was in the plane of euthymia.
Nahida was locked up.
Focalors was in the oratrice.
So what I mean to ask is when could our sibiling have met any of the above archons?
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I don't think they met the Archons we know, didn't most of them got replaced after the Khaenri'ah war because the previous ones died? Venti I know he may have not been around, I didn't know about daddy Zhongli's retirement, but he was still around and for my theory to be valid our siblig must have met him. But I think they ecountered the previous Archons also like Makoto, Grater Lord Rukkadevata, Egeria, which is why most of the newer Archons that we've ecounterrd so far don't know anything about our sibling, even Ei said that she wasn't around at that time. If you think about it we've never asked any of the previous Archons about our sibling. Makoto's conciousness was there and we didn't say a thing, same with Rukkadevata.
Ima have to take a break bec of lag frfr
lag is a bitch aint it noodle
I’m sorry I just started the video but why does the first picture of “the primordial one, a progenitor god hailing from beyond the stars” remind me of Patrick from SpongeBob???
youve got an eye for spongebob my friend that monster is indeed patrick. albeit a cosmic horror version of him. im impressed you clocked it
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia power wash simulator: SpongeBob dlc is very fresh in my mind i guess
😶😶 you know why our sister work with abys because fake pramodial one change memory and it's change all characters fate too here is many desender but after memory change here is only 4 desender 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 both siblings are desender zhongli is desender pramodial one or dragon king niblung are desender too but after memory change all fate changed so only 4 desender is here all characters fate is changed
bro i just cant with u. you are fucking hilarious
pramordial one
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠
Yay a video about my fav Genshin daddy
:D
I mean...I know this is a serious conversation but let's all be for real: That "contract" is just hoyoverse being aware that they couldn't continue the mistery if the traveler were to ask someone who remembers everything since 6000 years ago lol
Now, I don't think the contract was about Khaenriah specifically. Maybe, it was about forbidden knowledge, since we know there were incidents regarding it before(? Idk, I firmly believe in my initial theory 🤣 And abt the Sustainer going after us while the world was ending...It makes me think that the sibling was heavily involved in the cataclysm. The sustainer even says something about the arrogance of the humans and stuff when she fights them
the sibiling most certinaly had a big role to play in khaenriah i would imagine
3 moon sister
2 sun brother
Zhongli is yellow sun god
King desheret/al-hamar/alhaithem. Red sun god❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
W SCRIPT LMAOO
think so taco
@2:49 _The sound of a distant Meteor in Space falling towards Earth._
THAT HIGURASHI NOISE. IF U HEAR HIGURASHI NOISE YOUR DEATH IS IMMINENENT (or however tf u spell that word) AND U MUST RUN
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Those Cicadas may as well be the equivalent of the Primordial One airhorns. lol
What if someone snitch? ... theres a survivor everyone hates ... just saying
a snitch lmfao
Celestia shill? Oh im so disappointed. This used to be a good channel. Knowing you could be so wrong about celestia, i have to doubt the entire channels accuracy
i could be wrong about alot of things. thats the fun in theories
Blasphemy
ur blasphemy
Man. This is such an unfortunate video. You are sooo off base
come then my brother, lets discuss. im curious on ur views regarding the whole thing. i do love discussing lore :D
You have a blerd accent
what does even mean lmfao
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia like you sound like one of those self proclaimed Black nerds. If they had an accent that’s what you sound like rather than a straight whiteccent
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia you sound like one of those self proclaimed Black nerds instead of having a full on whiteccent or sounding like you were in one of them racial chat rooms
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia blerd = Black nerd