@@mrivarv17 you're fucking stupid lmfao, capcom is one of the most legendary devs ever. obviously they have put out a lot of garbage but to outright say this as if they're EA or ubishit or something is deranged
When I was a kid I was sad that I was missing out on all these cool Japanese games, but now we have the internet and between piracy, fan patches and server emulators there are plenty of other games out there that CAN be played. Even if all you do is poop and play games you won't finish a tenth of all the awesome stuff that came out since the birth of gaming not to mention all the new games that will come out while you poop 'n play.
I'm convinced it wouldn't have died if they had just released it in English markets. The original game was already more popular outside Asia, so you'd think they'd have known better
@@CrazyxEnigma It's just standard DRM that was used to replace Denuvo because it was cheaper. It didn't disable mods. You guys were fooled by rage bait from twitter.
@@FenrirGrey DRM breaking Steam Deck compatibility for Monster Hunter sounds like a legitimate grievance to me even if it only affects a small percentage of players.
My sister loves DD. Dark arisen. She’s played this game as a child to a 22 year old woman today. All she talks about is the sequel and we are both excited. Crazy game.
@@TheRetifox no i know very well what incel means. Responding to any mention of woman that likes thing you like with “Unga, is single?” Is peak incel behavior.
What made this game unique vs a tab target mmo was the ability to take out very hard enemies before you're ready for them. I remember me and my friend spending like half an hour killing an ent creature in a forest that we were way under levelled for. Felt so intense climbing it and stabbing it and winning by the skin of our teeth. Had similar with an ogre too. The combat music was epic too very intense.
@@GrooveSpaceArk BDO is actually my prime example of barely disguised. It like gives you a couple combos to actively input to make it feel like you’re kind of doing something but nothing about the enemy interactions is any different than any other mmo. Meanwhile dogma feels like monster hunter. There’s just no comparison, dogma is so good.
Yeah, it's really fun when the game let's you sequence break by slowly beating an enemy down for a long time. Rather than coming up to an enemy, pressing the abilities button and seeing that their stats mean that they can outlast you in what feels like old boxing, where both sides stand still trading blows.
Bro I still remember when I first booted the game with my friend, like 7 years ago, and we found a cyclops. The fight took AT LEAST 40-50 mins non stop, it was the best thing ever
I regretted not playing this more. This game improved many class imbalances of Dragon's Dogma and streamlined the combat. I really wished they just released it in the west because there was a lot of hoops just to get it to work.
The section explaining how pawns work in Dragons Dogma 1 felt super cursed when you said you can "voice chat" with pawns and that they act like players populating an empty world. Its just ever so slightly off that it makes me feel like ChatGBT wrote that part. Otherwise, good video!
This was a game I always wanted to try, the little bit of lagged out gameplay i managed to play of this was amazing. Sad to see the Japanese version being shutdown.
It's "e rɪz ən", not "a rise en". It's said a lot in the the base game and dlc and the main theme throughout the game because you were brought back from the dead.
I like the pawn system more than actually playing with other people tbh. I love the idea of having my creation out there playing and growing with other people.
Good news is, both were options. You could play with other people or just play with pawns or mix it. Pawns still did the same if anything they did even more here.
I had the pleasure to play DDON. It was a pain to play as you need VPN everytime you login and need translation whenever you do the mission, it is still super fun times especially with the EN group. Alchemist and Elemental archer was a blast to play
It's too late now, but you could've used a work-around for the VPN (a small binary file used instead of the game's shortcut) as you needed it just to log-in and you could install the translations every patch.
One thing japanese developers doens't seem to understand is that japanese games are popular in the west because they are different, they don't need to cater to the west
Nerdslayer only touches upon but one or two of the aspects of why the JP playerbase was in a constant steady decline. They fell into many of the same balancing traps that PSO2 did. Which is often referred to as the free to play approach of balancing and design. Which proved to be more volatile in their case due to their insulated playerbase left feeling burnt whenever new classes were released. You also had the mounting system which was fundamentally different from Dragon's Dogma, and mostly hated by the playerbase. This core mechanic was eventually phased out, being only really used on flying bosses to keep them grounded. There is a private server in development and has the fundamentals of the game working, but is still very much a WIP and very much "Join my discord" style of private server.
I remember being one of the main videos out there to explain how easy it was to play Dragon’s Dogma Online with the English patch, which I was super proud of because damn was it a unique MMORPG. It’s so rare you have an MMO that feels like a single player game, with how weighty and deliberate the combat was. I’d kill to see it get a revival in the west. Maybe if Dragon’s Dogma 2 is successful enough?
Wtf, DD:O sounds like my dream MMMORPG. With great action combat and game design more like Guild Wars 1, with the small 4 or 8 player group questing in instanced spaces and large hub zones to socialize. What a shame, this never released in the west! :(
Add to that a lot of fan service events (collab with Attack on Titan, Re:Zero, Berserk and Overlord, for example) and little things like transmog (fashion dogma) and housing system. Ahh, I miss it so much T_T
I was so sad about this one. I came across it towards the tail end of it shutting down and barely got to scratch it's surface. I always felt like if they had changed the monetization model and touched up a couple things then ported it to the West, it would've been a massive success.
I really really wanted DDO to come to the west but alas... the truth hurts. At least we can still hear DD's most famous quotes: "WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS" "THE HEART ARISEN THE HEART ATTACK THE HEART" "MASTERWORKS ALL"
I can only speak as a Monster Hunter fan, but its wild to me how with Monster Hunter they’ve always been trying to extend that olive branch to the West. Ever since the release of MH Tri with their awesome commercials, they’ve really pushed into the west and with MH World I think they finally cracked it though I think a HUGE part of it is them finally embracing PC. But theyve been always seeking that western audiance. Always blows my mind how other games just couldnt care less even within the same Capcom umbrella
me and my buddy killed an ogre that was level 12 when we were level 7 and it was the greatest dragons dogma experience ive ever had. I was a warrior and he was the spear class. It was awesome.
"All riven, kith and kin. All given for this, a never-ending riddle. " Sorry. I just really liked Dragon's Dogma, and that's the first line that pops to mind.
Man as someone that played it for 3 years into server shutdown was amazing, light/dark dragon, dark night fight, the bosses where sick an the classes omg, magic swordsman, shield sage, assassin, an the broken warrior class, imo DD2 has big shoes to fill if it wants to be as good or better then DDO
Thank you! I asked for this one on the Motor City Online episode last year, after I played and got amazed by the first game and found out that a mmo already existed and already went dead for this franchise, now I can get to what happened
Last year, there were efforts to make an English private server for DDO, although I haven't checked in on that in half a year, so I'm not sure if it's still an ongoing thing. Although, I doubt it has launched yet, as that would certainly make some gaming news.
Since you approached Capcom, I think you should eventually make a video about the latest online Resident Evil games: *Resident Evil Resistance* and *RE:Verse,* which are bizarre Capcom decided to handle them, release them both as a "free multiplayer modes" of Resident Evil 3 "remake" and Resident Evil Village, respectively, while being released as standalone games (unlike GTA Online and Red Dead Online are to GTA 5 and RDR2) AND having zero connections to them, especially between Resident Evil Village and RE:Verse. Even more bizarre is, unlike Resident Evil Resistance, RE:Verse was delayed for over 1 year only to be released to minimal extra content, a very small training map, one extra map and in-game shop. Both games were abandoned by Capcom in less than 6 months after being released. Capcom did not even have the decency to release them as standalone free-to-play titles.
@@fieryrebirthHell even that seems like a pipedream, your best bet is probably hoping some modders make a coop mod. ....which is theoretically possible albeit it could take months if not years to understand the code enough to even attempt making it.
DDO looks so much more fun than DD2 was honestly. ;w; I played DDO for a week or so before it shut down, it was an amazing fantasy rpg experience. You really felt like a low level adventurer slowly climbing the ranks, it was a damn blast
I will add that DDO died because capcom killed their online division in 2019. Monster hunter frontier, the online version, also shut down that year because of this
Thanks NS. I never played online but I've loved DDDA for a long time. Played it on 360, ps4 and switch. 1 of my favorite games of all time. The combat is the best I've ever experienced in a rpg. Thanks for everything you do.
(Before I watch the video) I genuinely think that they closed down the game, to create a demand for Dragon's Dogma 2. It was reported that the dev team were in the middle of making content for an update and basically found out the game was shutting down around the same time the public was told (which was like a month out or something). They had no clue that the game was "doing poorly." Heck, they had a specific server (can't remember the name of it as its been awhile) that was flooded with english speakers like me and a team dedicated to doing a fan translation of the game so we could at least get some of the story out of it. Capcom ended up trying to get rid of us through IP blocks and region locking... I guarantee that if they had created an international version of the game, they wouldn't have been "having issues" making money on it. The game had a very, very short life cycle and it looks like they just gave up on it... very, very fun game by my short time with it. There is currently a dedicated team working to bring up a private server and finish translating it and they've been making a looot of progress so far.
There are a few things I agree with, somethings missing context in why it got shut down that wasn't even talked about here, and somethings that were a bit more exaggerated than what it actually was when it was active. He links to the DDON community discord, but I don't recall him asking anybody in the discord on information. From the people that actually played it when it was active.
@@nerdSlayerstudioss Lol what are you being so combative for? What are you saying? It only logically makes sense for someone investigating, to talk to the people who were there when the game was running. You've done that before and asked about it before. So how would this seem out of place? Theres quite a few things I could have said and chose not to say in a youtube comment because of the depth of the many things that could be corrected/incomplete/ or was straight up wrong. Like the COG shutting down, the content drought not being as bad as made it seem (hardly at all really), and other things could speak about more detail. Not just I could give further context about, but the others that have actually played. Further it only makes more sense to actually speak to the people that have actually played the game. As well as saying the game is complete in the private server and can be fully played when that is entirely not the case at all. Theres alot of things that isnt working in the private server project of DDON, that people should know before going in attempting to play it. The video only went into the game at a very surface level overview, and didnt really get into detail about the actual game and how it played, how it faired and the reasons why it went down. Like COG wasnt even mentioned (Capcom Online Game service it was hosted on, that also had Monster Hunter Frontier to go down with it.), as well as DMC5 finishing its production, where was mentioned in a dev interview with Itsuno he had a choice of doing DMC5 or DD2 and he chose dmc5 first. meaning he was going to come to dd2 after, and the ddon team got remerged. Like wtf is this passive aggressiveness? Overall this felt more like a surface level overview than an indepth investigation on why the game shutdown. If you wanted examples, you could have simply asked that without all the condescending combativeness, Like i attacked you or something. And was mentioning the lacking of information and context the video didnt provide.
@@reagenlionel i've noticed that he has a habit of getting defensive and dismissive about any minor criticism and it's so damn weird. It's like the guy narrating the video and the person writing the comments are two different people.
@@nerdSlayerstudioss Why insult his intelligence? Why not consult the community of the community-based game you're making a video about? Why quote him as saying "experts" when he didn't claim that they were experts? Whats with this vitriol, dude? I'd assume you'd want to get as much accurate information about this out as possible but I guess that somehow wasn't the goal?
With the mispronunciation of Arisen ("Ah-Riss-En" and not "A-Rise-En"), I think its clear to say you didnt play the games, did you? Cause if you did, you wouldnt have mispronounced the one word that gets repeated the most. Even more than the word "HARPIES!" That said. Very good video!
Still sad this game never got brought to the west, same with Capcom's other MMOs: "Monster Hunter Frontier" and "Monster Hunter Online". But, it is what it is; and at least we're getting the mainline entries.
I thought it would make an excellent fit for the West if it were released then. I even asked Capcom about it, and I got nothing but "But we have no plans to bring this game to the West now." There was a comment on the game saying, "Once we have a would foundation in Japan, I'd like to consider bringing this game overseas, where there are a great many online players." But that didn't happen. I even started a petition on the game. To drum up interest and then they canceled it. That was disappointing.
In regards to why it died, one of the speculations back in the day was that capcom didnt want to renew their contract with the company in charge of hosting the servers, because iirc the same month as DDON was shutting down, Monster hunter online also shut down. One thing i loved about this game was how it was an mmo, but it fully played like a singleplayer game, for me who was a wow player, this was just so amazing, you would go into the city and hang out with people, but when you went out into the world to do quests and play the story, you would bring only the people you want, or the pawns you want. The pawns were also so revolutionary, they felt like actual humans, they would do smart stuff that would save you, or do stupid shit that would make you yell at them as if they were a stupid kid. One of my most memorable moments in the game was when i ran into a cyclops that was a lot of levels above me. I had so much fun taking it down, it took me like 15-20 minutes, and it felt like a boss fight, while it was just an ordinary monster, that was just a higher level than me. It was so much fun that i will never forget it. I wanted it to come to the west so much so more people would find out about it and play it, but sadly it shut down before that could ever happen. One thing i must say tho, while i would have liked it to come to the west, i also enjoyed playing on the JP servers a lot. The western people were all gathered up in a few guilds, and it was such a close community, whatever help you needed, people would always give. No matter what it was, whether it was help with how to play your vocation, or with a dungeon, people would always be nice and friendly, and i think that is only because generally westerners werent allowed in the game, you had to use a vpn, and generally there are a lot of cases of japanese online games banning players when they find out they arent playing from japan, but are using a vpn. Overall very sad the game shut down, but the private server project is being worked on by amazing people and i really hope that in a few years we will have the ability to fully play the game like before it shut down.
I've played DDO a lot back in the day on my PS4. I was always obsessed with Dragon's Dogma. We had to use public proxy's to play and we had to change it almost daily cuz it would get super laggy. Then i moved to PC and used private VPN's which were much better. There was a pretty big western community on some specific servers. Even a fan English translation. It helped a lot. I'll always miss those days. Even if we can kinda play it today with private servers, it's not the same thing as having thousands of people online interacting. A shame it ended that way.
I remember seeing news about Dragon's Dogma Online years ago and wanting desperately to play it. I even watched videos on the various classes in the game and BOY do they have a lot of unique ones. As the years went by, I ended up giving up on hoping for the title to release in the US. Follow that up pretty much immediately with their announcement of it closing down and it was essentially over. Pour one out boys
I remember making a Japanese account with a Fake VPN just to play this game on PS4. I eventually got a PC just to get the English Patch and man was it fun. It's a shame we haven't seen the Alchemist Vocation in any other DD.
Never even knew there was a Dragons Dogma: Online. Loved Dragons Dogma and the Pawn system but the game would have been even more amazing with actual multiplayer.
My cousin and I played a fuckton of DDO using a VPN and English Patch back in the day. We expected them to eventually release it in the West, and were saddened that it was shutdown eventually.
I still maintain that Dragons Dogma is a perfect match for small party multiplayer and it doesn't need to be MMO scale either, just adding coop to the base game would be enough to make it a really fun almost D&D style experience. I was hoping they would add multiplayer for DD2 but obviously that didn't happen. It's still really sad that DDO never made it to the west, I'm sure it would have been very popular here.
"DDO is nearly completely playable while setting up your own server" Are quests working now? The big thing I remember last time was that there were no quests or anything at all, it was just an open world with monsters in it.
I've let my friends know plenty of times over that they will not be hearing from me for a whole week after Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out. I've been waiting a whole decade for this game that and I've bought and played the original / dark arisen version more times than I can count. Thank you for covering DDO because it's identity is relatively unknown. By the way a key point of Dragon's Dogma was being able to create your own pawns that were meant to gleam information from your own playstyle. P. S. It is A-RIZZ-EN not A-RISE-N.
The multi-player I wanted was a up to 4 player co-op. The host would be Arisen and the other 3 would be other players Arisen as pawns. I so wanted to play with my fiance with our main pawns as a 4 man party.
The whole reason I learned how to set up a VPN was to play this game. It definitely was cool, but had some weird design choices for the conversion to MMO status, not all of which were that great tbh. It's also been interesting seeing some of DDO carry over in DD2(Class splits, monsters, etc.)
DDON is the most fun I've had in online games. It was a blast to play during the years it was up. Sure, it did lack content, but the gameplay was so much fun and there were so many classes to try, that you'd hardly ever get bored. I really hope alchemist makes it into DD2, such a cool class concept I've never seen before. I hope the DDON server, while playable and a lot of fun, ends up fully restoring the game, since some parts of the game like quests, loot drops, crafting and area levels are not yet implemented.
Out of all the DoaGs, this one probably has to hurt the most for me. That said, I hope the lessons they learned with DDON are implemented well in DD2. Also that teaser at the end... Friday the 13th the Game?
I went through hoops to play this on PS4 and it was WORTH. The translation community was great! I YELLED when I saw the Sphinx return to DD2 and I REALLY hope they bring more of Online's bosses to DD2 even if they were reskins from the original game or Monster Hunter.
interesting that this appeared here This did pretty well in the east, and it was pretty hard trying to play it here in the west, especially if they found out you were from the west you got mass reported and banned
I've never heard of anyone ever getting banned in DDON. They mostly didn't seem to care. And most of the jap player base didn't mind and welcomed us. Even with the language barrier. Though the quick chats made it good to communicate if had translation patch at least.
It was honestly so much fun to play. Im currently getting some nostalgia through the broken rebuild of the game. quests dont work sadly tho.. also i love this video but your pronunciation of Arisen kills me lol
Death of a Game: Monster Hunter Frontier Death of a Game: Monster Hunter Online Capcom has some other one's to talk about all in 2019 which came up with the theory that Monster Hunter World was a big factor.
I feel like capcom has the potential to enter the mmo market today with their popularity and how people absolutelly love their games and their gameplay
they said "yeah, don't feel like it" Maybe now with monster hunter, and capcoms willingness to do online games they'll do a dragons dogma online 2 and launch it world wide, just maybe.
This looks like what would have been a dream, ideal MMORPG for me. I may try to look into private servers of this, it feels a shame to never have a chance to play this!
Capcom's subdivision for their online game, Capcom Online Game a.k.a COG was closed at that year with all the game under it Which is Dragon Dogma Online and also Monster Hunter Frontier, which is a way longer running title than DDO
Its A-RIZZ-en. That's how its said multiple times in game. Like when your pawn says *"Strength in numbers, Arisen!"* 7:53 it sounds like you're saying Dark HORIZON lol
Can't tell you how sad i was to find out DDO was getting shut down with no western release. It felt like a good way to get people into the series. Ah well, at least DD2 is is getting eyes on the series now.
Its a shame it never came to the west. I'd love to have played it just to know if it was good. Even if it was cancelled, I could still use it as a comparison point to explain what kinda game I want to play.
I have to wonder if an overlooked cause might be Monster Hunter World's success. A similar online action RPG by Capcom that was massively successful - enough to completely change the course of its own series. It's not unreasonable to think it could also affect Capcom's entire paradigm for online-focused games. Even if World didn't cause it, it seems likely that the closure of Dragon's Dogma Online was part of some larger change in Capcom's approach to online games. Most notably, Monster Hunter Frontier (an online-only Monster Hunter game that also never came to the West) closed down the very same month as DDO. It feels like it's not just for Frontier and DDO to close down the same month when Frontier had been going for many more years (it first launched in 2007). How related this actually is may be debatable. But since NS didn't seem terribly familiar with Monster Hunter, it would probably have been easily overlooked.
I played while it was online , I miss that game because was already an upgraded version of DDDA , bow was OP at start and everyone used because of that , then they nerfed that weapon to balance things XD Edit : I have a few OLD vids uploaded , you can check if interests you :)
When you mentioned Deep Down an add immediately went to load and the screen was black for just a moment. Buy it was long enough for me to see deep down into my eyes the pain capcom has inflicted upon me with just these two games alone. That being said I can't wait for dd2. I even have a music video made for the og players with decent views. So this game has given and taken from me lol
The fact that this never left japan is one of the great tragedies in modern gaming
No you could play it outside Japan they just never translate the game. American fans translated what they could but it took weeks
It likely still would've failed and also would've hurt Dark Arisen reputation.
I remember feeling so heart broken when it shutdown, me and my friend were just fiending and holding out for it
Nah. One less capcom game the better.
@@mrivarv17 you're fucking stupid lmfao, capcom is one of the most legendary devs ever. obviously they have put out a lot of garbage but to outright say this as if they're EA or ubishit or something is deranged
Never forget that they gave us Anarchy Reigns, but withheld Dragon’s Dogma: Online.
Why must you hurt us, Japanese game publishers? Why?
It's REverse that gets my goat. DDO would have worked in the West, no doubt in my mind.
Anarchy Reigns need an remaster and release for modern consoles.
If we're going to daydream, @@skyuru , my pick for a Capcom remaster would be Shadow of Rome. No wait, Outbreak. Either and I might die happy.
I'm sure they have their reasons
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When I was a kid I was sad that I was missing out on all these cool Japanese games, but now we have the internet and between piracy, fan patches and server emulators there are plenty of other games out there that CAN be played. Even if all you do is poop and play games you won't finish a tenth of all the awesome stuff that came out since the birth of gaming not to mention all the new games that will come out while you poop 'n play.
I had no idea dragon dogma online was even a thing.
I had no idea Monster Hunter had an MMO either. I'm sad I didn't get to try either Dragon's Dogma online or MHOnline.
@corvoyami3192 i mean MHO was pretty bad so you not missing much dogma wasn't to bad tho
I was hoping for a western release, back in the day. Never got it though. Oh well. DDII😊
The MMO genre in the west is basically on life support right now. Wish it wasn't but that's how the video game industry is right now.
@@corvoyami3192 gotcha
I'm convinced it wouldn't have died if they had just released it in English markets. The original game was already more popular outside Asia, so you'd think they'd have known better
Capcom was quite stupid during this time period. I still find it jarring they've earned their recent praise.
@@CrazyxEnigma Considering their latest DRM practices, that praise was quickly revoked.
@@KerzacTransformed Guess it was about time for them to hold the idiot ball again.
@@CrazyxEnigma It's just standard DRM that was used to replace Denuvo because it was cheaper. It didn't disable mods. You guys were fooled by rage bait from twitter.
@@FenrirGrey DRM breaking Steam Deck compatibility for Monster Hunter sounds like a legitimate grievance to me even if it only affects a small percentage of players.
THEY'RE MASTERWORKS ALL. CAN'T GO WRONG
What'll it be, then? If you've the need and the coin, I've the wares.
Fire lend thy kiss
Wolves hunt in packs
They are weak to fire .
Strenght in numbers
"Uh-Rizz-en"; your pawns pronounce it for you non stop through the game
How to tell when a person hasn't played the game or plays it in a weeb language they don't understand.
He's right though... The dude in the video pronounced it
uh RISE en .... It was weird and I don't know why he did it.
@@predat11 idk why you're pressing my boy. Uh RISE en, isn't how it's said. It's ah rizz en .
I was literally talking about Dragons Dogma Online with a friend about 30 minutes ago
Your timing is absolutely impeccable
My sister loves DD. Dark arisen. She’s played this game as a child to a 22 year old woman today. All she talks about is the sequel and we are both excited. Crazy game.
Is she single?
@@jiblyjablyGod I knew some incel would type this
@@calebfoley5872 I don't think you know what the word incel means
@@calebfoley5872?
@@TheRetifox no i know very well what incel means. Responding to any mention of woman that likes thing you like with “Unga, is single?” Is peak incel behavior.
What made this game unique vs a tab target mmo was the ability to take out very hard enemies before you're ready for them.
I remember me and my friend spending like half an hour killing an ent creature in a forest that we were way under levelled for. Felt so intense climbing it and stabbing it and winning by the skin of our teeth. Had similar with an ogre too. The combat music was epic too very intense.
To be specific, what makes unique vs every other mmo is that it actually has combat, not barely disguised atb turn based gameplay
@calebfoley5872 yes. BDO has action combat too kind of but still feels a lot more stats based.
@@GrooveSpaceArk BDO is actually my prime example of barely disguised. It like gives you a couple combos to actively input to make it feel like you’re kind of doing something but nothing about the enemy interactions is any different than any other mmo. Meanwhile dogma feels like monster hunter. There’s just no comparison, dogma is so good.
Yeah, it's really fun when the game let's you sequence break by slowly beating an enemy down for a long time. Rather than coming up to an enemy, pressing the abilities button and seeing that their stats mean that they can outlast you in what feels like old boxing, where both sides stand still trading blows.
Bro I still remember when I first booted the game with my friend, like 7 years ago, and we found a cyclops. The fight took AT LEAST 40-50 mins non stop, it was the best thing ever
I regretted not playing this more. This game improved many class imbalances of Dragon's Dogma and streamlined the combat. I really wished they just released it in the west because there was a lot of hoops just to get it to work.
There's an active private server in the west.
@@ruckarucka6787actively in an alpha state.
@@ruckarucka6787 Whats it called? I would love to play this at some point.
The section explaining how pawns work in Dragons Dogma 1 felt super cursed when you said you can "voice chat" with pawns and that they act like players populating an empty world. Its just ever so slightly off that it makes me feel like ChatGBT wrote that part. Otherwise, good video!
ChatGPT is wild with stuff it sometimes comes up with.
I loved Steparu videos on it, the game was so cinematic yet very action oriented. Such a shame it was cancelled.
This was a game I always wanted to try, the little bit of lagged out gameplay i managed to play of this was amazing.
Sad to see the Japanese version being shutdown.
It's "e rɪz ən", not "a rise en". It's said a lot in the the base game and dlc and the main theme throughout the game because you were brought back from the dead.
Dragon's Dogma AMD Ryzen
Yes....I'm glad i'm not the only one cringing at the pronunciation.
It's definitely Arisen, the pronunciation is in Latin based alphabet. Since the Portuguese were the first to translate Japanese to latin.
A-ri-sen
@@LuizAlexPhoenix /əˈrɪzən/ thing is it's a real word not made up
truly the most bizarre death that could have been diverted but hey Dragons Dogma 2 is alive and well
I like the pawn system more than actually playing with other people tbh. I love the idea of having my creation out there playing and growing with other people.
Good news is, both were options. You could play with other people or just play with pawns or mix it.
Pawns still did the same if anything they did even more here.
I had the pleasure to play DDON. It was a pain to play as you need VPN everytime you login and need translation whenever you do the mission, it is still super fun times especially with the EN group.
Alchemist and Elemental archer was a blast to play
It's too late now, but you could've used a work-around for the VPN (a small binary file used instead of the game's shortcut) as you needed it just to log-in and you could install the translations every patch.
One thing japanese developers doens't seem to understand is that japanese games are popular in the west because they are different, they don't need to cater to the west
Nerdslayer only touches upon but one or two of the aspects of why the JP playerbase was in a constant steady decline. They fell into many of the same balancing traps that PSO2 did. Which is often referred to as the free to play approach of balancing and design. Which proved to be more volatile in their case due to their insulated playerbase left feeling burnt whenever new classes were released. You also had the mounting system which was fundamentally different from Dragon's Dogma, and mostly hated by the playerbase. This core mechanic was eventually phased out, being only really used on flying bosses to keep them grounded.
There is a private server in development and has the fundamentals of the game working, but is still very much a WIP and very much "Join my discord" style of private server.
I remember being one of the main videos out there to explain how easy it was to play Dragon’s Dogma Online with the English patch, which I was super proud of because damn was it a unique MMORPG. It’s so rare you have an MMO that feels like a single player game, with how weighty and deliberate the combat was.
I’d kill to see it get a revival in the west. Maybe if Dragon’s Dogma 2 is successful enough?
Wtf, DD:O sounds like my dream MMMORPG. With great action combat and game design more like Guild Wars 1, with the small 4 or 8 player group questing in instanced spaces and large hub zones to socialize.
What a shame, this never released in the west! :(
Add to that a lot of fan service events (collab with Attack on Titan, Re:Zero, Berserk and Overlord, for example) and little things like transmog (fashion dogma) and housing system. Ahh, I miss it so much T_T
It was amazing. Spent countless hours in it using VPN. Especially when the added 2 expansion classes. Miss it so much.
It was so great being able to have multiple pawns and getting them to craft you gear at base and the guild hall.
I was so sad about this one. I came across it towards the tail end of it shutting down and barely got to scratch it's surface.
I always felt like if they had changed the monetization model and touched up a couple things then ported it to the West, it would've been a massive success.
always glad to see you still going strong dood!!
bruh i knew about dragon's dogma but had no idea there was even an mmo
I really really wanted DDO to come to the west but alas... the truth hurts.
At least we can still hear DD's most famous quotes:
"WOLVES HUNT IN PACKS"
"THE HEART ARISEN THE HEART ATTACK THE HEART"
"MASTERWORKS ALL"
I can only speak as a Monster Hunter fan, but its wild to me how with Monster Hunter they’ve always been trying to extend that olive branch to the West.
Ever since the release of MH Tri with their awesome commercials, they’ve really pushed into the west and with MH World I think they finally cracked it though I think a HUGE part of it is them finally embracing PC. But theyve been always seeking that western audiance. Always blows my mind how other games just couldnt care less even within the same Capcom umbrella
Completely agree
me and my buddy killed an ogre that was level 12 when we were level 7 and it was the greatest dragons dogma experience ive ever had. I was a warrior and he was the spear class. It was awesome.
"All riven, kith and kin. All given for this, a never-ending riddle. "
Sorry. I just really liked Dragon's Dogma, and that's the first line that pops to mind.
For me itll always be;
"Wolves hunt in packs!"
"My flesh worn, heart betorn,
Mind, by mem'ry, begyved"
Fighting Daimon while that song plays in the background is a core memory.
Man as someone that played it for 3 years into server shutdown was amazing, light/dark dragon, dark night fight, the bosses where sick an the classes omg, magic swordsman, shield sage, assassin, an the broken warrior class, imo DD2 has big shoes to fill if it wants to be as good or better then DDO
Thank you! I asked for this one on the Motor City Online episode last year, after I played and got amazed by the first game and found out that a mmo already existed and already went dead for this franchise, now I can get to what happened
Last year, there were efforts to make an English private server for DDO, although I haven't checked in on that in half a year, so I'm not sure if it's still an ongoing thing. Although, I doubt it has launched yet, as that would certainly make some gaming news.
It's still being worked on and has made decent progress so far
I didn't know DD Online was a thing. Thanks for the consistent output and coherent stories, as always!
Our pleasure!
Since you approached Capcom, I think you should eventually make a video about the latest online Resident Evil games: *Resident Evil Resistance* and *RE:Verse,* which are bizarre Capcom decided to handle them, release them both as a "free multiplayer modes" of Resident Evil 3 "remake" and Resident Evil Village, respectively, while being released as standalone games (unlike GTA Online and Red Dead Online are to GTA 5 and RDR2) AND having zero connections to them, especially between Resident Evil Village and RE:Verse.
Even more bizarre is, unlike Resident Evil Resistance, RE:Verse was delayed for over 1 year only to be released to minimal extra content, a very small training map, one extra map and in-game shop. Both games were abandoned by Capcom in less than 6 months after being released.
Capcom did not even have the decency to release them as standalone free-to-play titles.
Good idea
All I know is RE resistance was pretty much shovelware
I hope they add a separate game mode to DD2 that’s multiplayer.
God, I hope so. Would love that.
Haven't been keeping up on it, but I haven't heard anything multiplayer.
Alas, no news have come so far for a multiplayer part. All official communication says it's single-player only.
The franchise is designed to be single-player first and foremost. DDON was the exception, so you're better off hoping for a DDON 2
@@fieryrebirthHell even that seems like a pipedream, your best bet is probably hoping some modders make a coop mod.
....which is theoretically possible albeit it could take months if not years to understand the code enough to even attempt making it.
DDO looks so much more fun than DD2 was honestly. ;w; I played DDO for a week or so before it shut down, it was an amazing fantasy rpg experience. You really felt like a low level adventurer slowly climbing the ranks, it was a damn blast
I will add that DDO died because capcom killed their online division in 2019. Monster hunter frontier, the online version, also shut down that year because of this
Thanks NS. I never played online but I've loved DDDA for a long time. Played it on 360, ps4 and switch. 1 of my favorite games of all time. The combat is the best I've ever experienced in a rpg.
Thanks for everything you do.
I can’t wait for Death of a Game: Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League
It's pronounced Dark Arizzen 😂 that was driving me crazy. Great video though my man
(Before I watch the video)
I genuinely think that they closed down the game, to create a demand for Dragon's Dogma 2. It was reported that the dev team were in the middle of making content for an update and basically found out the game was shutting down around the same time the public was told (which was like a month out or something). They had no clue that the game was "doing poorly."
Heck, they had a specific server (can't remember the name of it as its been awhile) that was flooded with english speakers like me and a team dedicated to doing a fan translation of the game so we could at least get some of the story out of it. Capcom ended up trying to get rid of us through IP blocks and region locking... I guarantee that if they had created an international version of the game, they wouldn't have been "having issues" making money on it. The game had a very, very short life cycle and it looks like they just gave up on it... very, very fun game by my short time with it.
There is currently a dedicated team working to bring up a private server and finish translating it and they've been making a looot of progress so far.
There are a few things I agree with, somethings missing context in why it got shut down that wasn't even talked about here, and somethings that were a bit more exaggerated than what it actually was when it was active.
He links to the DDON community discord, but I don't recall him asking anybody in the discord on information. From the people that actually played it when it was active.
So much so you didn't list any reasons or examples...the most galaxy brained move you can do. boy do I regret not consulting with your "experts".
@@nerdSlayerstudioss Lol what are you being so combative for? What are you saying? It only logically makes sense for someone investigating, to talk to the people who were there when the game was running. You've done that before and asked about it before. So how would this seem out of place?
Theres quite a few things I could have said and chose not to say in a youtube comment because of the depth of the many things that could be corrected/incomplete/ or was straight up wrong.
Like the COG shutting down, the content drought not being as bad as made it seem (hardly at all really), and other things could speak about more detail. Not just I could give further context about, but the others that have actually played. Further it only makes more sense to actually speak to the people that have actually played the game. As well as saying the game is complete in the private server and can be fully played when that is entirely not the case at all. Theres alot of things that isnt working in the private server project of DDON, that people should know before going in attempting to play it.
The video only went into the game at a very surface level overview, and didnt really get into detail about the actual game and how it played, how it faired and the reasons why it went down. Like COG wasnt even mentioned (Capcom Online Game service it was hosted on, that also had Monster Hunter Frontier to go down with it.), as well as DMC5 finishing its production, where was mentioned in a dev interview with Itsuno he had a choice of doing DMC5 or DD2 and he chose dmc5 first. meaning he was going to come to dd2 after, and the ddon team got remerged.
Like wtf is this passive aggressiveness? Overall this felt more like a surface level overview than an indepth investigation on why the game shutdown. If you wanted examples, you could have simply asked that without all the condescending combativeness, Like i attacked you or something. And was mentioning the lacking of information and context the video didnt provide.
@@reagenlionel i've noticed that he has a habit of getting defensive and dismissive about any minor criticism and it's so damn weird. It's like the guy narrating the video and the person writing the comments are two different people.
@@nerdSlayerstudioss Why insult his intelligence? Why not consult the community of the community-based game you're making a video about? Why quote him as saying "experts" when he didn't claim that they were experts? Whats with this vitriol, dude? I'd assume you'd want to get as much accurate information about this out as possible but I guess that somehow wasn't the goal?
With the mispronunciation of Arisen ("Ah-Riss-En" and not "A-Rise-En"), I think its clear to say you didnt play the games, did you?
Cause if you did, you wouldnt have mispronounced the one word that gets repeated the most. Even more than the word "HARPIES!"
That said.
Very good video!
Still sad this game never got brought to the west, same with Capcom's other MMOs: "Monster Hunter Frontier" and "Monster Hunter Online". But, it is what it is; and at least we're getting the mainline entries.
I thought it would make an excellent fit for the West if it were released then. I even asked Capcom about it, and I got nothing but "But we have no plans to bring this game to the West now." There was a comment on the game saying, "Once we have a would foundation in Japan, I'd like to consider bringing this game overseas, where there are a great many online players." But that didn't happen. I even started a petition on the game. To drum up interest and then they canceled it. That was disappointing.
I literally cringe every time he miss pronounces Arisen.
Dragon's Dugma Dark Aree-sen
In regards to why it died, one of the speculations back in the day was that capcom didnt want to renew their contract with the company in charge of hosting the servers, because iirc the same month as DDON was shutting down, Monster hunter online also shut down.
One thing i loved about this game was how it was an mmo, but it fully played like a singleplayer game, for me who was a wow player, this was just so amazing, you would go into the city and hang out with people, but when you went out into the world to do quests and play the story, you would bring only the people you want, or the pawns you want. The pawns were also so revolutionary, they felt like actual humans, they would do smart stuff that would save you, or do stupid shit that would make you yell at them as if they were a stupid kid. One of my most memorable moments in the game was when i ran into a cyclops that was a lot of levels above me. I had so much fun taking it down, it took me like 15-20 minutes, and it felt like a boss fight, while it was just an ordinary monster, that was just a higher level than me. It was so much fun that i will never forget it. I wanted it to come to the west so much so more people would find out about it and play it, but sadly it shut down before that could ever happen. One thing i must say tho, while i would have liked it to come to the west, i also enjoyed playing on the JP servers a lot. The western people were all gathered up in a few guilds, and it was such a close community, whatever help you needed, people would always give. No matter what it was, whether it was help with how to play your vocation, or with a dungeon, people would always be nice and friendly, and i think that is only because generally westerners werent allowed in the game, you had to use a vpn, and generally there are a lot of cases of japanese online games banning players when they find out they arent playing from japan, but are using a vpn. Overall very sad the game shut down, but the private server project is being worked on by amazing people and i really hope that in a few years we will have the ability to fully play the game like before it shut down.
I've played DDO a lot back in the day on my PS4. I was always obsessed with Dragon's Dogma. We had to use public proxy's to play and we had to change it almost daily cuz it would get super laggy. Then i moved to PC and used private VPN's which were much better. There was a pretty big western community on some specific servers. Even a fan English translation. It helped a lot. I'll always miss those days. Even if we can kinda play it today with private servers, it's not the same thing as having thousands of people online interacting. A shame it ended that way.
Imagine how successful this would have been in the US. Vindictus would've died for sure.
Ngl at first I thought that the thumbnail said the death of dragon's dogma. I was going to flip out.
I remember seeing news about Dragon's Dogma Online years ago and wanting desperately to play it. I even watched videos on the various classes in the game and BOY do they have a lot of unique ones. As the years went by, I ended up giving up on hoping for the title to release in the US. Follow that up pretty much immediately with their announcement of it closing down and it was essentially over.
Pour one out boys
I remember making a Japanese account with a Fake VPN just to play this game on PS4. I eventually got a PC just to get the English Patch and man was it fun. It's a shame we haven't seen the Alchemist Vocation in any other DD.
I never even knew about this game until last weeks community post. I would have been all over this thing if it came to the west.
This was made before Capcom's revival/redemption that started with Monster Hunter World and Resident Evil 7. Good to see them back on top.
Never even knew there was a Dragons Dogma: Online. Loved Dragons Dogma and the Pawn system but the game would have been even more amazing with actual multiplayer.
oooooof nringing up lost planet hurts my soul maybe do a death of a game for the series
Kingdom Under Fire 2 next? That's a wild story.
So glad you covered this. I had the good fortune of playing this back in my uni days and was alot of fun.
My cousin and I played a fuckton of DDO using a VPN and English Patch back in the day. We expected them to eventually release it in the West, and were saddened that it was shutdown eventually.
I still maintain that Dragons Dogma is a perfect match for small party multiplayer and it doesn't need to be MMO scale either, just adding coop to the base game would be enough to make it a really fun almost D&D style experience. I was hoping they would add multiplayer for DD2 but obviously that didn't happen.
It's still really sad that DDO never made it to the west, I'm sure it would have been very popular here.
High Scepter... please....... Itsuno-sama..... I beg you....... DD2 needs High Scepter...... I want to play it
I was always so jealous that I couldn't play it. It really did look great.
"DDO is nearly completely playable while setting up your own server"
Are quests working now? The big thing I remember last time was that there were no quests or anything at all, it was just an open world with monsters in it.
I've let my friends know plenty of times over that they will not be hearing from me for a whole week after Dragon's Dogma 2 comes out. I've been waiting a whole decade for this game that and I've bought and played the original / dark arisen version more times than I can count. Thank you for covering DDO because it's identity is relatively unknown. By the way a key point of Dragon's Dogma was being able to create your own pawns that were meant to gleam information from your own playstyle. P. S. It is A-RIZZ-EN not A-RISE-N.
We need a dragon dogma 2 online.
The multi-player I wanted was a up to 4 player co-op. The host would be Arisen and the other 3 would be other players Arisen as pawns. I so wanted to play with my fiance with our main pawns as a 4 man party.
The whole reason I learned how to set up a VPN was to play this game. It definitely was cool, but had some weird design choices for the conversion to MMO status, not all of which were that great tbh. It's also been interesting seeing some of DDO carry over in DD2(Class splits, monsters, etc.)
Just imagine how many times ransoms say”wolves hunt in packs” on a daily basis in its peak
DDON is the most fun I've had in online games. It was a blast to play during the years it was up. Sure, it did lack content, but the gameplay was so much fun and there were so many classes to try, that you'd hardly ever get bored. I really hope alchemist makes it into DD2, such a cool class concept I've never seen before.
I hope the DDON server, while playable and a lot of fun, ends up fully restoring the game, since some parts of the game like quests, loot drops, crafting and area levels are not yet implemented.
seeing this video made me feel so sad because there are a plenty of monsters on DDO that aren`t on DD2, i hope they add some in a near future...
シーズン2からプレイし始め、トータルで4000時間ほど遊び、当時公式に開催されていたタイムアタックやエンドコンテンツでもランクインするほどサービス終了まで最前線でクランの仲間や最高に鍛え上げたポーン達と楽しんでいました。
終わってしまったのが非常に惜しい、素晴らしいゲームでしたよ。
今後リリースされると噂されているドグマ2DLCの制作にはDDONの木下さんが本編より深く関わるらしいので期待しています。
Out of all the DoaGs, this one probably has to hurt the most for me.
That said, I hope the lessons they learned with DDON are implemented well in DD2.
Also that teaser at the end... Friday the 13th the Game?
DDO was insanely fun. It was literally just Dragons Dogma with co-op and the occasional 8 player raid, which is all I wanted from the original.
Thank you for covering this masterpiece. DDON was incredible and would have made tens of millions in the West imho.
I'm glad fans are making a new one I never got to play the original in fact didn't know it even existed until years after it was shutdown.
Glad to know that the modding community is reviving this gem.
I went through hoops to play this on PS4 and it was WORTH. The translation community was great!
I YELLED when I saw the Sphinx return to DD2 and I REALLY hope they bring more of Online's bosses to DD2 even if they were reskins from the original game or Monster Hunter.
Give me that black knight boss 😅
Oh my god, Dragon's Dogma is one of my favorite games of all time and they never even released an online game over here? Come on Capcom
interesting that this appeared here
This did pretty well in the east, and it was pretty hard trying to play it here in the west, especially if they found out you were from the west you got mass reported and banned
I've never heard of anyone ever getting banned in DDON. They mostly didn't seem to care. And most of the jap player base didn't mind and welcomed us. Even with the language barrier. Though the quick chats made it good to communicate if had translation patch at least.
The idea of dragons dogma online not being big sounds insane to me, so I'm glad this one got covered.
It was honestly so much fun to play. Im currently getting some nostalgia through the broken rebuild of the game. quests dont work sadly tho..
also i love this video but your pronunciation of Arisen kills me lol
Death of a Game: Monster Hunter Frontier
Death of a Game: Monster Hunter Online
Capcom has some other one's to talk about all in 2019 which came up with the theory that Monster Hunter World was a big factor.
Yes!
I feel like capcom has the potential to enter the mmo market today with their popularity and how people absolutelly love their games and their gameplay
Is this why we had to wait about an entire decade for Dragons Dogma 2?
No. It was dmc5 that was why. This was kind of hold over between then.
man i really hope DD2 gets some kind of co-op multiplayer. DDDA has so many moments i wish i could experience with friends
they said "yeah, don't feel like it"
Maybe now with monster hunter, and capcoms willingness to do online games they'll do a dragons dogma online 2 and launch it world wide, just maybe.
Next video - Death of a Game: Suicide Squad kill the justice league 🤣
This looks like what would have been a dream, ideal MMORPG for me. I may try to look into private servers of this, it feels a shame to never have a chance to play this!
Capcom's subdivision for their online game, Capcom Online Game a.k.a COG was closed at that year with all the game under it
Which is Dragon Dogma Online and also Monster Hunter Frontier, which is a way longer running title than DDO
Please do for MHFZ one !
I remember wishing for this game to exist and I never knew it was actually made. Its crazy how I only found about it due to DD2 o.O
would rather watch your original vid then hear asmondgold's yes man mentality over it
Yeah. I didn't even know this existed until I saw the title of your video in my feed.
Played it back in 2016 on my ps4, was a pretty good game and I was really sad to see it shut down :/ maybe DD2 will have a MMO expansion as well
Its A-RIZZ-en. That's how its said multiple times in game.
Like when your pawn says *"Strength in numbers, Arisen!"*
7:53 it sounds like you're saying Dark HORIZON lol
Can't tell you how sad i was to find out DDO was getting shut down with no western release. It felt like a good way to get people into the series. Ah well, at least DD2 is is getting eyes on the series now.
I feel like they named Deep Down based on how low on their list of priorities it was.
Its a shame it never came to the west. I'd love to have played it just to know if it was good. Even if it was cancelled, I could still use it as a comparison point to explain what kinda game I want to play.
Theres a pserver that is pretty playable and translated most of content to english. I've been having a blast playing it.
They have private servers now but it’s convoluted to download I can’t seem to get it
I have to wonder if an overlooked cause might be Monster Hunter World's success. A similar online action RPG by Capcom that was massively successful - enough to completely change the course of its own series. It's not unreasonable to think it could also affect Capcom's entire paradigm for online-focused games.
Even if World didn't cause it, it seems likely that the closure of Dragon's Dogma Online was part of some larger change in Capcom's approach to online games. Most notably, Monster Hunter Frontier (an online-only Monster Hunter game that also never came to the West) closed down the very same month as DDO. It feels like it's not just for Frontier and DDO to close down the same month when Frontier had been going for many more years (it first launched in 2007).
How related this actually is may be debatable. But since NS didn't seem terribly familiar with Monster Hunter, it would probably have been easily overlooked.
I played while it was online , I miss that game because was already an upgraded version of DDDA , bow was OP at start and everyone used because of that , then they nerfed that weapon to balance things XD
Edit : I have a few OLD vids uploaded , you can check if interests you :)
When you mentioned Deep Down an add immediately went to load and the screen was black for just a moment. Buy it was long enough for me to see deep down into my eyes the pain capcom has inflicted upon me with just these two games alone. That being said I can't wait for dd2. I even have a music video made for the og players with decent views. So this game has given and taken from me lol