Circuits 1 - Thevenin Equivalent Circuit - Example

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  • @PTNLemay
    @PTNLemay 4 роки тому +14

    4:40
    You mention that for any current entering the node will have a negative value, but the next term you use (representing the current passing through the 120 resistor) also goes into the node, but you left it as a positive addition. How come?

    • @user-ks9ct7vz8g
      @user-ks9ct7vz8g Рік тому +2

      It's because i2 = (12-V)/120, so since you're subtracting i2, you get -(12-V)/120, which is +(V-12)/120, which is what he writes.

  • @daienkai148
    @daienkai148 6 років тому +18

    Oh holy fuck all semester I've been working on this and I've watched thousands of tutorials on it but I didn't get jack shit until I watched this video. Fuck, you saved my life man I'm actually in tears

  • @LYCE601
    @LYCE601 3 роки тому +6

    Bruh, useful af. Methods are explained simple and clean. Helped a lot

  • @beschies17
    @beschies17 6 років тому +129

    I'm sorry but the intro music almost had my ears bleeding (this is exaggeration)

  • @straxescraft
    @straxescraft 5 років тому +5

    KCL says if a current enters a node it equals it when it leaves, THEN shouldn't it be :
    0.2A +i1-i2=0?
    i1 is = v-12/120
    i2 is = v/45
    Please someone explain it to me! i don't understand why he did it like that!

  • @tylerkriney
    @tylerkriney 2 роки тому +2

    In the node voltage method it was said that current entering a node would be negative but in the calculations it was added for the first fraction ((v-12)/120). Why would it be added instead of subtracted in this instance?

  • @rhetorical_annihilation
    @rhetorical_annihilation 5 років тому +7

    I think this was a great example. Very clear and easy to follow. Thank you!

  • @2006dogan
    @2006dogan 5 років тому +5

    Sum of input currents are equal to output current(s)
    i1+i2=i3 (i1->over 120ohm....i2->current source... i3->V point to ground-known voltage)
    i1=(12-V)/120
    i2=0.2
    i3=V/(20+25)

  • @MegaAlcarajo
    @MegaAlcarajo 4 роки тому +3

    law of currents is i1 + i2 = i3, i1 = 0.2A. So +0.2+i2-i3=0 not is -0.2+i2+i3=0

  • @madelynweathers2275
    @madelynweathers2275 5 років тому +3

    Why didn't you put your ground between the 25 and 20 ohm resistors on the bottom right?

  • @issazhanabay7335
    @issazhanabay7335 6 років тому +29

    You said currents that enter the node are with minus sign, but you wrote (V-12)/120ohm instead of -(v-12)/120ohm though it enters the node.

    • @monkeylin7256
      @monkeylin7256 5 років тому +9

      As my opinion, V=12-(120i1) originally, so i1=(12-V)/120
      After adding the minus sign, i1=(V-12)/120
      Please tell me if I am wrong

    • @diegoalejandrosalcedotolos2639
      @diegoalejandrosalcedotolos2639 5 років тому +5

      @@monkeylin7256 you are right, it's what he did. I think he should have said that so nobody would get confused

  • @oAbraksas
    @oAbraksas 5 років тому +2

    Great explanation, way better than most on youtube

  • @JasonAvronSamuels
    @JasonAvronSamuels 5 років тому +10

    Is he drawing backwards?

    • @tommysaeys
      @tommysaeys 5 років тому +9

      He's probably writing normally, the total video is just mirrored

    • @xinyuanluo3399
      @xinyuanluo3399 4 роки тому +1

      @@tommysaeys mindblown lol

  • @matthewcahill1037
    @matthewcahill1037 3 роки тому

    best example of thevenin yet, and i finally know an actual use case for it too

  • @aurahunter2190
    @aurahunter2190 2 роки тому +1

    Can someone please clarify why he is using RL in the calculation Rth? I thought those were kept seperate...

  • @Kadooger
    @Kadooger 4 роки тому +1

    Why cant you make the node directly under the 20ohm resistor your ground ? I tried this and got a Vth of 5.14volts

  • @arceuslegend4605
    @arceuslegend4605 5 років тому +2

    Aren't the 145 and 25 resistors in series?

  • @fakemadara3811
    @fakemadara3811 5 років тому +1

    why do we replace the voltage source with short , and current source with open ?
    Also, why did he add 20 Ohms to 25 ohms to get 45 Ohms, they are both connected in parallel right? I don't see how they are connected in series. I really want to understand it!
    thank you in advance.

    • @ozymandiius
      @ozymandiius 5 років тому +1

      An ideal voltage source has no resistance to current, and a current source ideally has infinite resistance of current. For the sake of calculating a Thevenin equivalent, you assume that the voltage and current sources are ideal so that you can treat them as shown in the example. Those resistors are not in parallel-- there is one wire that enters the 20 ohm, the same single wire exits the 20 ohm into the 25 ohm, and then continues to the rest of the circuit. Since the resistors are on one continuous wire, they are in series.

    • @fakemadara3811
      @fakemadara3811 5 років тому

      Thank you so much! Your explanation helped me understand!

    • @fakemadara3811
      @fakemadara3811 5 років тому

      @@ozymandiius since the 25, 120, and 20 ohms resistors are in series, why not calculate the voltage divider like this : 9.82*20/(120+20+25). Instead of what he did 9.82*20/(20+25).? Isn't the 120 ohm resistor is also part of the series of resistors in the circuit? Why not include it.... Thank you again!

  • @TheCheech0203
    @TheCheech0203 2 місяці тому

    Thank you so much I was looking for something like this

  • @jamflowers-m3x
    @jamflowers-m3x Місяць тому

    hi wouldn't the 120 and 25 be parallel ? why did you add them

  • @TheCalvo101
    @TheCalvo101 6 років тому +12

    thanks for helping me understand why you disregard a resistor/ path !

    • @formulauno376
      @formulauno376 4 роки тому

      Current takes the path with least resistance. The path with more resistance is disregarded.

  • @BunkerBrawler
    @BunkerBrawler 4 роки тому +7

    Awesome video! There is just one gap that had me a bit confused. When calculating the resistance toward the end you added the 120 and 25 ohm resistors. These would be in series because the 20ohm resister should be removed at this step. I believe 145 ohms is the Thevenin equivalent resistance and 20ohms is the load.

    • @anotherrandomcommenter4473
      @anotherrandomcommenter4473 4 роки тому +3

      So, you need to remember that nodes A and B are your start and end points, and that all of your equivalents are from the perspective of A and B. Basically, if there was something between A and B, what would that thing see? Also, 145 and 20 are in fact parallel, he just forgot to add nodes A and B to the drawing.

    • @aurahunter2190
      @aurahunter2190 2 роки тому

      What Jayson said makes sense to me. I was confused why he was merging the RL and Req as well. In the thevenin equivalent circuit, my teacher wants us to show the RL and Req seperate.

  • @seek_to_understand_
    @seek_to_understand_ 3 роки тому +1

    Overall a good video. There is an error around the 3 minute mark. You mention that you are adding the two resistors because "they are in parallel," but they are in fact in series since they share the same node. But I think you knew that since you used the proper equation. Perhaps making a little memo portion in the video would help. Thanks though.

  • @cankavas
    @cankavas 3 роки тому

    There is a sign mistake while writing the Kirchoff current law (4:43), otherwise nice and clear.

  • @Astanaveziri
    @Astanaveziri 6 років тому +3

    firs thank you for all... and I want to ask you please,when we calculate Rth ,we dont use RL=20 ohm.. how you calculate thisRth=17,6 ohm .I think Rth =145ohm..isint it?

    • @arifgdg
      @arifgdg 5 років тому

      same question here

    • @sohambhattacharya8975
      @sohambhattacharya8975 5 років тому +1

      I think that 20ohm is not the load...load is connected across ab

    • @arifgdg
      @arifgdg 5 років тому +1

      @@sohambhattacharya8975 yup! exactly

  • @farnazansari9697
    @farnazansari9697 5 років тому

    OH MY GOSH! That was a bit tough!but with your explanation it became much easier:)

  • @Rethyms
    @Rethyms 5 років тому

    At 3:54, why is it that 120 and 25 is series and they together are in parallel with 20 ohms resistor?

    • @alexhagopian3426
      @alexhagopian3426 5 років тому +1

      That’s what I’m saying!
      I think this guy is wrong

    • @phuongnguyen-kc8hi
      @phuongnguyen-kc8hi 5 років тому

      Based on the diagram, the left side of 120 Ohm and left side of 25 Ohm are connected with a continuous wire nothing in between so they are connect in series. After you add them up to 145 Ohm then the 145 Ohm resistor is now parallel to the 20 Ohm, just imagine they are connected to make a loop. Sometimes, it is hard to see but if we do lots of practice then it will become easier.

  • @LukeDavies-f7s
    @LukeDavies-f7s 15 днів тому

    pretty crazy how he draws stuff inverted for the viewer. Thanks

  • @HenryBuyssie
    @HenryBuyssie 4 роки тому

    during the rTh part, why aren't 25 ohm and 20ohm counted together instead of 25 and 120?? aren't they in series as well??

  • @Ckperes
    @Ckperes 7 років тому +143

    You look like McLovin lmao

    • @sammybrown6730
      @sammybrown6730 6 років тому +5

      better lookin than McLovin!

    • @benhiggins811
      @benhiggins811 4 роки тому

      hahahahahha

    • @AnthonyMoody
      @AnthonyMoody 3 роки тому

      aaaaaaaaand now im reading about how someone tried to use mclovin's ID as a fake instead of studying circuits like i should be, thanks! 😂😂

  • @bryanmagarangoma8742
    @bryanmagarangoma8742 2 роки тому

    is the correct answer for vth not 5.143??

  • @mirceagheoace549
    @mirceagheoace549 5 років тому

    Why he uses in the end the voltage divider? (in order to use the voltage divider you have to assume that there is a small current that leaves from point b)

    • @mirceagheoace549
      @mirceagheoace549 5 років тому

      After a little research I've found the answer. Actually, according to Thevenin theorem, the Thevenin voltage is measured considering a and b terminals open so there's no current flowing from terminal b so using the voltage divider is appropriate.

  • @Rawr478
    @Rawr478 4 роки тому

    How you do norton equivalent for this circuit

  • @corneliariasdita715
    @corneliariasdita715 5 років тому

    What's the Rth if there is no 0.2A current source (shorted)?

  • @christopheraguilar44
    @christopheraguilar44 5 років тому +4

    Great thank you so much for the awesome explanation!

  • @3quarterlifer571
    @3quarterlifer571 5 років тому +3

    Smooth and easy explanation. Well done Dan!

  • @erichun19
    @erichun19 8 років тому

    May you explain more about the current (V/45 ohm)? Why can't we just write as (V/20) as the current across the 20ohm resistor?

    • @mehmetemindirekli6843
      @mehmetemindirekli6843 8 років тому

      it is a voltage divider formula.

    • @furkandemirturk3646
      @furkandemirturk3646 6 років тому +1

      you can also write V/20 there is no problem but in your way, you have to use two unknown like Va and Vb

  • @s.m.faizer1057
    @s.m.faizer1057 4 роки тому

    This is amazing! I solved that by using nodal analysis and mess analysis which was quite lengthy bt the VDL could be used I learnt from you..

  • @XDHowie
    @XDHowie 5 років тому

    why not 12 - V instead of V - 12? I thought the arrows started from the voltage source so that would be the start of the Ohm's Law. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  • @arcsine
    @arcsine 3 роки тому

    ty v good video :] i finally learned about node voltage and was super confused by Thev but I know where to start now :]

  • @andrecefre3581
    @andrecefre3581 5 років тому

    how to solve step by step the 9.82v?

  • @pengyuanchen3080
    @pengyuanchen3080 6 років тому +3

    Thank you so much! This is really helpful :)

  • @ianburlingame8658
    @ianburlingame8658 5 років тому +5

    F-the haters. This has been the more useful videos for Thevenin's and the light board thing was actually just a great idea.

  • @ΧρυσοβαλαντηςΤασιοπουλος

    2kΩ. Is not short-circuited if you put hypothetical voltage source between the gap terminals you will notice that the current is splitted in two parts between the 1k and 2k resistance!!!

  • @margandasiagian2223
    @margandasiagian2223 7 років тому

    what if we're going to find the current across 20 ohm?

    • @josephchackon1717
      @josephchackon1717 7 років тому +1

      I believe thats why he did voltage division since the V=9.82 is the suppy voltage to that part of the circuit. So across the 20 ohm is 4.36V

  • @stevenwg2360
    @stevenwg2360 6 років тому

    Thank the online teaching gods for this video. Lifesaver!

  • @flyingboat10
    @flyingboat10 6 років тому +1

    Excellent video !!

  • @kale2325
    @kale2325 6 років тому +1

    This video could not be more Uconn

  • @carolinafortuna6811
    @carolinafortuna6811 5 років тому +1

    great explanation

  • @saalaxcali5284
    @saalaxcali5284 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much it's nice tutorial

  • @sloth6545
    @sloth6545 6 років тому

    why is it 145//20 and not 45/120?

  • @mintlata
    @mintlata 6 років тому +1

    Thank you for the lesson!

  • @thomasscola581
    @thomasscola581 4 роки тому

    this man has a rip n dip shirt on. what a chad!

  • @JO-ej3nh
    @JO-ej3nh 3 роки тому

    I always know I can trust a man with a cat in his pocket.

  • @darahnunez7112
    @darahnunez7112 3 роки тому

    Great video but the sound of your marker is annoying 😬😬😬😬 but thank you! 😊

  • @mackayburke734
    @mackayburke734 3 роки тому

    This dude can so well write backwards

  • @monkerer1221
    @monkerer1221 4 роки тому

    Why do you write V-12, which V, why 12, why over 120Ohm , why can you just assume a ground wherever, why can you just add the last two R without having the whole system changed when you put a ground

  • @sebastianklin
    @sebastianklin 3 роки тому

    very good to understand :)

  • @lochlanmeredith1536
    @lochlanmeredith1536 5 років тому +2

    Holy shit, that lecturer is amazing!

  • @adamcoppa1853
    @adamcoppa1853 5 років тому +2

    Is he writing backwards or is this some sort of magic

    • @UConnHKN
      @UConnHKN  5 років тому

      We use a Lightboard so it gives off that illusion lol

  • @_Nikko_-cz8mi
    @_Nikko_-cz8mi 4 роки тому

    Great presenter!

  • @Anakuya1
    @Anakuya1 5 років тому +1

    I think your wrong about the 120ohms and 25ohms adding up to 145 because it's parallel, so it would be the 1/R equation.

    • @tannerdobson3976
      @tannerdobson3976 5 років тому +1

      Anakuya1 even though they seem as they are parallel they share 1 node exclusively therefore they are in series.

  • @teemolai3482
    @teemolai3482 3 роки тому

    very nice video

  • @karolkluczynski9144
    @karolkluczynski9144 5 років тому

    This is incorrect the sum of the current have to equal each other meaning i1 plus i2 equals i3

    • @pagetwnas1
      @pagetwnas1 4 роки тому

      yeah i think the same , two currents entering one leaving so sign should be the opposite

  • @suprvrmedia6235
    @suprvrmedia6235 5 років тому

    The tension divider is wrong, isnt it?
    Is the Vin*25/45, bc Vin*rdown/rdown+rup.
    Correct me if Im wrong

    • @aydenwalker1661
      @aydenwalker1661 5 років тому +1

      Current division works in that way. Using voltage divider, one must use the resistor of which voltage he/she would like to know, as the numerator to the equation.

  • @jaimied9328
    @jaimied9328 5 років тому +1

    Dan! What is in your pocket??

  • @KathyKathKath14
    @KathyKathKath14 6 років тому

    if 120 and 25 are in parallel, they wouldnt just be added together? did you mean to say in series?

    • @dlofiasco
      @dlofiasco 5 років тому

      120 Ohm and 25 Ohm are in series. When he says "Parallel" combination, he really means series parallel.

    • @cosmicshadow305
      @cosmicshadow305 5 років тому

      No theyre in parallel. If you draw the a and b points out you can see it.

  • @prohabetamu
    @prohabetamu 5 років тому

    did u forget the super mesh

  • @josejimenez850
    @josejimenez850 6 років тому +1

    Excellent

  • @9_______9_______9-i9m
    @9_______9_______9-i9m Рік тому

    I'm more curious about what you're writing on and if you just flipped the video? It ends up being a distraction for me lol

  • @sweeners8950
    @sweeners8950 4 роки тому

    You're a legend

  • @yarendemir3310
    @yarendemir3310 5 років тому +1

    this is so goood!!

  • @gregwoolley
    @gregwoolley 2 роки тому

    Intro music is far too loud!

  • @cosmicshadow305
    @cosmicshadow305 5 років тому +1

    Why did you use nodal analysis without explaining what is is?

  • @Hello_am_Mr_Jello
    @Hello_am_Mr_Jello 3 роки тому

    Tanmirt

  • @AdityaKumar-pm2he
    @AdityaKumar-pm2he 5 років тому

    love you from india

  • @GOVINDKUMAR-mx3vz
    @GOVINDKUMAR-mx3vz 5 років тому

    Thanks sir ji

  • @tsheposeleke2835
    @tsheposeleke2835 6 років тому

    thanks a lot..pleasure!!!!!!!

  • @a.nelprober4971
    @a.nelprober4971 3 роки тому

    I got 3.29V across the 20ohm ffs

  • @mCsKiMMeR
    @mCsKiMMeR 5 років тому +2

    lmao rip n dip

  • @AbdullahAlghamdi-gz5dx
    @AbdullahAlghamdi-gz5dx Рік тому

    I LOVE YOU

  • @markseidel19
    @markseidel19 4 роки тому +1

    100th comment!

  • @diamondsorgarbage2475
    @diamondsorgarbage2475 5 років тому +1

  • @shrine2975
    @shrine2975 5 років тому +2

    you just can't be a teacher. I can't get a single idea how you solved this.

    • @nathanoosterhuis6232
      @nathanoosterhuis6232 4 роки тому +2

      stop reading the comments and watch the video. This can't be that hard.

    • @shrine2975
      @shrine2975 4 роки тому +1

      @@nathanoosterhuis6232 Maybe not for you; but it is definitely hard for me.

  • @clueless_andy
    @clueless_andy Рік тому

    this guy gives me a super bad type character vibes

  • @physics2025
    @physics2025 2 роки тому

    Wrong

  • @demianrobermen7259
    @demianrobermen7259 4 роки тому +3

    shouldn't you ignore that 20 om resistor when u r calculating the Thevenin resistance?

  • @farnazansari9697
    @farnazansari9697 5 років тому

    OH MY GOSH! That was a bit tough!but with your explanation it became much easier:)