How to fix your Miata lifter tick
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- This is me going though most of the process in cleaning your hydraulic lifters. I really suggest you find a write up online for timing belt break down and procedures. You will need to make sure your motor is set at TDC and your cams and crank are in time.
Overall this process took me a day to complete. I don't have anything to get in my way though, no power steering, A/C, ect. So it really trims the work down. - Авто та транспорт
Dont worry for the awfull angle of the camera i just flip my cell phone upside down and it work fine, thanks for the instructive video!!!!
Wow you reply to most comments, that's rare, props to you man!
Thanks buddy I think I can do this myself... my Vauxhall stood for almost a year it now has this noise. I have been driving for two months now I even put on a thicker oil thinking it would go away but it didn't.
One of the best guides.
nice, well done. I got a bit of tick in my NA. I will do this some time but I just did the timing belt so it can wait.
Great, nice explained thank you for sharing.
Looking to do this some time next year. Informative and great put together video, will probably be using an ultrasonic cleaner for the lifters if possible.
Great video!
+1 sub :)
Thanks man. I think ultrasonic cleaning would be the best thing outside of buying new. Hope this video helps. Let me know if you have any issues. I usually respond within the day if I'm within cell service.
lol this video is old but damn that popping noise is satisfying
You can also easily remove the valves from the tappits by banging them (valve to bottom) on a block of wood. They'll come right out
And you want to use some brake clean, free up those little check balls. 90% of time the failure is caused by grit preventing ball from seating.
Ive managed to clean 2 sets of these now, the first time i didnt dismantle that other bit which you mentioned, with the check ball in it. I installed them and the ticking was still there, i think 1 or 2 lifters must of had a bit of crap in that bit. Second set i done i stripped right down, took that cap off which revels the check ball and a tiny spring, be careful not to lose them. Ive installed that set in my car and they sound sweet as, engine has never sounded so smooth. Cheers for this vid anyway, i wouldnt of known where to start without it.
Year later, still tick free, never known the engine to be so quiet. Before i would shut the engine off when warm like to run into a shop quick and start it up a few mins later and the ticking would be quiet bad for a while, i dont get any of that either. All fine and dandy.
@@Glenn7719 Thanks for the update! good to know this fix lasts
yer upside down, ru in australia?
Very cool man.
Great video, I did this to my car a little over a month ago and it's been fine until a few days ago the lifters sound worse. Almost as a rod knock but I know it's the lifters.
+RideWithTy Sorry I am just now noticing your comment. What ended up being the noise? Mine still tick a bit after a few hard laps but nothing like it used to.
I think its a dead lifter or a few of them. I might try to do the ATF engine flush and see if that works, if not then I guess I need to but some new lifters or sell my car :/
+RideWithTy you should try the ATF flush and see if it works. You should be able to take the valve cover off the car and see the dead lifter(s). Take off the valve cover, rotate the engine with by hand and look for the lifter that doesn't move along the cam lobe.
I put a chlorinated aditive in the engine oil. In 2 hours it got silk smooth.
great video
+botacarga Thanks man, hope it was able to help you out.
+NA6 driver :D
Great video. I would have bought new lifters though. That is way too much work to reinstall the little trouble makers. Sometimes after market part makers will solve these issues before making their replacement parts. Never buy the factory parts, some people say they started ticking before 50k miles, but Mazda would not cover them just because of noise.
John S thanks for liking the video. The older I get the more I notice there are people with money and people with time. I agree that one would be better off buying new but, if you are one of the more fortunate to have more time than money, this is a worthwhile endeavor. You can find replacement Kia lifters on rockauto for about $120, which is about the cheapest I have found.
After separating the inside on a cub lifter , put them sigle vise in diesel oil in a ultra sonic bath. important is that you watch it. because you should not use combustible liquids with a ultra sonic cleaner, because it warmsup I did, but i watsched it . and once it is getting to hot i stopped and waited. They must be either single vise cleaned or in a plastic cage so they cannot touch each other. because they will destroy it it selfe while touching in a ultra sonic bath
Use Petrol/Gas in an ultrasonic cleaner. Take em apart and let the ultrasonic cleaner do the work.
Apart from the minor hiccups, it was an easy to understand tutorial. Question, what viscosity grade oil did you use to soak the lifters in? Keep up the good work.
Damnesia Thanks for the kind words, still a learning curve on the camera usage and proper use of terms but I get better with every video.
So I soaked them in the same oil that I run in the car, 10w30 Rotella T5. T6 is better, but it's also expensive. It is a really durable oil and handles the high RPM and heat, when I race the car, well. I also use this oil in my Subaru and it really cleans up the lifter tick and piston slap on cold starts.
If you hit in a wood block the center piece would fall off without using pluers
So is there an upgraded set still with the larger oil passages? I've heard rumors of upgraded sets but cant find anything?
Possibly in the after market. There are some Kia ones that work too, since they used the BP in some base cars back in the 90s.
the new hydraulic rocker arms must be unloaded before being installed?
If they are new, probably not. These were reused from my engine. Just taken apart to clean them.
Don't know how it sounded before, but that's silent! Would you say it's worth the time rather than buying a new lifter set?
It sort of depends. This car is something I get to play around with on the weekends. If I depended on it for a daily I would probably just buy a set and go. I often find that I have more time than money, so I often just jump into stuff like this. I think it gives a better understanding of how/why things are designed and how they work within the system. If that type of thing doesn't appeal to you, then purchase a set.
Well, I am in the middle of an engine rebuild. I hate buying new parts if I can fix them myself, and my ticking isn't very bad. I love taking things apart to see how they work. It makes it easier to understand what went wrong when it does. Is your engine ticking again?
André Baumgartner Nope, no ticking. I am using a Rotella T6 5w40 now as well.
@@CodyYankey doing this right now. There currently soaking. Did they ever start ticking again?
@@bassdevil100 still in the car and never tick. I do make sure to change the oil regularly and switched to a 5w40 Rotella T6
Hey, does it still tick after coming off the track? my e36 m52b28 ticks like mad after coming of the track, 10mins on the freeway and the tick goes away.
It does tick every now and then. I was running some Redline 10w30 and it would tick pretty bad after hard use. I went to 5w40 Rotella T6 and it's drastically reduced the ticking. Cleaning cleared up the tick I had almost all the time but going to the T6 really helped under hard use.
Hi , I've done servicing my lifter , once install still ticking ,when I remove again found out all missing 1mm thickness. Replace with new one and install .. no more ticking
Did you let it run for ~10mins before you turned it off? They were all collapsed after you cleaned them, that is the design of a hydraulic lifter. They use engine oil as the hydraulic fluid so they need to "refill" themselves. Glad new lifters worked out for you.
Yes I did. its become intermittent sound ticking. I've warming up until the fan on and drive a week. lastly I replace with new one and all ok, When I measure the length old one with the new one , old one missing 1 mm
Good troubleshooting. Sucks just a cleaning didn't fix it for you.
Ya, anyway ..thanks for sharing the video :)
Noob question, how did you get the left camshaft off when facing the engine?
Remove all the cam caps under the valve cover and it will come off. There is a torque order to it though. I go over it a bit in the video, just be sure you have the manual with you so you know the torque order.
Thanks for the info, I'm going to be cleaning my lifters soon. Will Hayne's do for this job?
Jonathan S The Hayne's should do but I think on miata.net in the garage section they may have a factory service manual. That would be the best one to get, if you can.
Alright cool, thanks!
Is it not the other way round pal to take of cam shaft off you work from inside out and to take it of it's from the outside in I'm sure that's right !!;;
You said take it "of" in both of your suggestions so I have no idea what you are actually trying to say. Either way you should always refer to the original manual as I'm sure it's not a one size fits all for every overhead cam motor. This is a general guide from a dude on UA-cam.
Has the ticking come back? Or is it still silent?
So the ticking only comes back after I run the car hard and shut it off back in grid. It ticks for a few seconds on restart. I am using Rotella T5 and I think I'll try T6 synthetic the next few oil changes and see what happens. Still much better then the 10mins of ticking the car would normally do.
Okay, the few seconds of ticking seems more normal, thanks for the answer.
+Bovs0Aka0Baws Yeah, it's about the same as others report. If you need any help or other questions let me know. I've reached to alot of people on here and the forums for help.
Tick tick tick tick tick.
Hi man , I didn’t open inside the lifter I wash them with thinner now after fix back all engine so noisy, what will be the problem?
I'm not sure how you would be able to clean them without taking them apart. There is a ball on a check valve that won't let you get fluid past without very high pressure. I think you should let it run, make sure you have oil in the car. Mine was very noisy for the first 10mins or so.
Thanks for your reply 👍🏻 , Yes the first was so noisy now not much noise but when I press the gas it like coughing, iam trying to open it all iam just like you open inside the lifter
@@SamSam-us2fh Make sure the timing is right. Sounds like you may be off a tooth or two on the timing belt.
Hi man , You are right the timing belt marks also run it looks not in the actual position
Now going to open all again 🤨
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You know you can easily flip this around, right?
You mean I would have to re-upload the video? At this point the video has gotten so many views that I would like to keep it up. If there is a way to flip it though UA-cam I would love to know.
NA6 driver just for future reference. But UA-cam also will let you reimport the video.
Yeah, my newer videos have come a long way from this. lol
Just a phone out in the garage one day with like no editing. Surprised how often this video has been viewed, though. Looks like everyone with a Miata gets some lifter tick. lol
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just buy new lifters set, waste of time
Well it work didnt it? no need to buy new ones
Heinrich Hanekom new ones literally are a dime a dozen. It’s worth buying new ones lol
You have to buy a new cam also. Because the old lifters and old camshaft are worn in together. If you throw in new lifters with the old camshaft, you end up flattening out the cam lobes and develop a grove in the lifters.