Take the lifter and place in palm of hand, get a piece of soft even wood and smack the open side of the lifter into it, trying to keep it flush as it contacts the wood, after a few attempts the tappet section will fall out
Would it be possible to fix those lifters when still in the engine ? Like putting a weigh on it ? I' m little afraid to take out the camshafts, I'm not a mechanic. My lifters in a A4 B5 1.8 20 Valves have different resistance when pushing them; some are soft an move easily 2-3 mm, some are hard and cant be pressed at all, thats at the Inlet side; the outlet side with bigger lifters are all hard. The engine was working well till noe, just the lifters make a typical metalical hammering sound for 2-3 sec. after starting (allready put 10W60 , otherwise the noise would be there allways.) I thought it was a problem of the old oil pump, car has 220.000 km now. Thanks for your advice!
It could be cam chain rattling noise. Also 1.8t are known for oil pump pickup pipe in sump getting clogged thus reducing oil pressure. Check valve cover side where chain rotates under for some wear, ive seen cam chain and tensioners getting loose and make contact with valve cover, noisy on startup. Otherwise, replace the intake lifters. Mark both cams sprockets and chain links well before removing.
Thank you for confirming that they are primed when new. I am rebuilding the valve lash adjusters on my v6 2.8 30v as well, decided to just take them apart and clean the gunk out and replace the ball bearing check valve while I was at it. The ball bearing had the slightest wear on the edge where it seals and I decided to err on the safe side and just replace the balls.
Just a question if you don't mind - some time back I had to rebuild an engine and I took out all the lifters. Some of them were easy to press in by hand and some were rock solid. So I bought a set of new ones and they were not the same as well. Brand new and some of them were able to be pressed by hand and some rock solid. In my opinion they should be all good to be pressed by hand or is it something else? Thanks for a reply :)
ticking noise in hydraulic lifters comes from a weak spring or a lifter cant hold the oil in side it self when the camshaft push it to press the valve.
@@miragairjet7436 thanks for your reply. In the meantime I found my answear already :) you can actually disassembly the lifters, clean them and see if you can make them work again. You can take a set of rigged pliers and pull out the center part and work from there or just simply smash the open side against a solid piece of wood and it will drop out on its own. Regardless if new out of the box or used if you can then test them all. Just put some oil into the lifter body (submerge in oil and press repeatedly or use a syringe to fill through the hole or whatever else you want to try), start pressing and see what happens. If it stays rock solid and no oil comes out then that lifter is off. If it is spongy and soft to compress then that lifter is off too. A good lifter is the one where you put some of your upper body weight on it and there is a small ammount of oil dripping out of the hole. That was the answer I was originally looking for and I found it but elsewhere. Didn't know about that until recently but this info came from a Porsche owner who does all his maintenance himself. Hope you found this usefull and can benefit from this one day :)
Will try that! I have like 19 lifters which are completely solid and about 5 which work like they should. Placed them in my supersonic cleaner filled with ATF at 70 degrees celsius and that didn´t do much. Went for Diesel now and will let them soak. There was a bunch of nastyness coming out of the ones that still work.
Aaaa ,ma eee ? Are you also bleeding a new lifters ? For vw when you bying new lifters then are already hard and ready for install . Manuel for vw doesn't say anything about bleeding lifters . Second stuff ,that is not a real way to bleed lifters .You needs a special players for disassebling that kind of lifters . Vw nummer pbwf 56821.😏
Heat them up real hot. Wear good quality thick gloves (leather if possible). Grab the plunger with a small water pump pliers and pull. It comes apart after a few attempts. Did all of mine (16) that way. Difficult job with stubborn, seized lifters but very possible. Must have loads of patience & determination..
@@MenTallisT_96 well i installed a new set without even looking at them. Bent 5 exhaust valves after firing it up. So , now, i always bleed and check movement of each new/used lifter.
Take the lifter and place in palm of hand, get a piece of soft even wood and smack the open side of the lifter into it, trying to keep it flush as it contacts the wood, after a few attempts the tappet section will fall out
Yup.
Doesn't work very well on lifters that have gunk in them.
Which is Why you are trying to take them apart.. to clean them !
Thanks for sharing .
I have Audi also and must change all lifters .
Must I bleed a new lifters also ?
Thanks for answer .
Would it be possible to fix those lifters when still in the engine ? Like putting a weigh on it ? I' m little afraid to take out the camshafts, I'm not a mechanic. My lifters in a A4 B5 1.8 20 Valves have different resistance when pushing them; some are soft an move easily 2-3 mm, some are hard and cant be pressed at all, thats at the Inlet side; the outlet side with bigger lifters are all hard. The engine was working well till noe, just the lifters make a typical metalical hammering sound for 2-3 sec. after starting (allready put 10W60 , otherwise the noise would be there allways.) I thought it was a problem of the old oil pump, car has 220.000 km now. Thanks for your advice!
It could be cam chain rattling noise. Also 1.8t are known for oil pump pickup pipe in sump getting clogged thus reducing oil pressure. Check valve cover side where chain rotates under for some wear, ive seen cam chain and tensioners getting loose and make contact with valve cover, noisy on startup. Otherwise, replace the intake lifters. Mark both cams sprockets and chain links well before removing.
Just ordered some off Amazon for 2.8 volkswagen 30valve, and the box had oil all over and none of the new lifters could be pushed down,
Thank you for confirming that they are primed when new. I am rebuilding the valve lash adjusters on my v6 2.8 30v as well, decided to just take them apart and clean the gunk out and replace the ball bearing check valve while I was at it. The ball bearing had the slightest wear on the edge where it seals and I decided to err on the safe side and just replace the balls.
Just a question if you don't mind - some time back I had to rebuild an engine and I took out all the lifters. Some of them were easy to press in by hand and some were rock solid. So I bought a set of new ones and they were not the same as well. Brand new and some of them were able to be pressed by hand and some rock solid. In my opinion they should be all good to be pressed by hand or is it something else? Thanks for a reply :)
ticking noise in hydraulic lifters comes from a weak spring or a lifter cant hold the oil in side it self when the camshaft push it to press the valve.
@@miragairjet7436 thanks for your reply. In the meantime I found my answear already :) you can actually disassembly the lifters, clean them and see if you can make them work again. You can take a set of rigged pliers and pull out the center part and work from there or just simply smash the open side against a solid piece of wood and it will drop out on its own. Regardless if new out of the box or used if you can then test them all. Just put some oil into the lifter body (submerge in oil and press repeatedly or use a syringe to fill through the hole or whatever else you want to try), start pressing and see what happens. If it stays rock solid and no oil comes out then that lifter is off. If it is spongy and soft to compress then that lifter is off too. A good lifter is the one where you put some of your upper body weight on it and there is a small ammount of oil dripping out of the hole. That was the answer I was originally looking for and I found it but elsewhere. Didn't know about that until recently but this info came from a Porsche owner who does all his maintenance himself. Hope you found this usefull and can benefit from this one day :)
thanks for the info
@@_J.P._ thanks a lot man , You have the convincing answer 👌
@@_J.P._ Lots of help. thank you!
Very well explained, thank you !
i have seen someone pulling the center tip w plyers clean them out and reasemble.
Just knock it on a flat surface. The plunger will come out after a few knock.
Thanks for the tip! Thanks for watching!
Will try that! I have like 19 lifters which are completely solid and about 5 which work like they should. Placed them in my supersonic cleaner filled with ATF at 70 degrees celsius and that didn´t do much. Went for Diesel now and will let them soak. There was a bunch of nastyness coming out of the ones that still work.
Sorry buddy watching this hurts
Kenapa?
collapsed lifters will not bend the valves;
Aaaa ,ma eee ?
Are you also bleeding a new lifters ?
For vw when you bying new lifters then are already hard and ready for install .
Manuel for vw doesn't say anything about bleeding lifters .
Second stuff ,that is not a real way to bleed lifters .You needs a special players for disassebling that kind of lifters .
Vw nummer pbwf 56821.😏
thanks for that explanation man
Great video! Thanks for the information
How about heating them up?
I tried heat.
Heat them up real hot.
Wear good quality thick gloves (leather if possible). Grab the plunger with a small water pump pliers and pull. It comes apart after a few attempts. Did all of mine (16) that way. Difficult job with stubborn, seized lifters but very possible. Must have loads of patience & determination..
@@alexbuckingham7854 Or maintain a box full of DOMESTICALLY SOURCED lifters - That way they can't be seized...
It's a tax-joke...
>_;
do u have to bleed new lifters?
No. New lifters do not need bleeding.
You should empty them, or you may have open valves and no compression. Real difficult to get them drained and compression back, once installed.
@@Jovemdaluta somebody says you should bleed them, and others say you should not. so where is the truth. we are talking about new lifters.
@@MenTallisT_96 well i installed a new set without even looking at them. Bent 5 exhaust valves after firing it up. So , now, i always bleed and check movement of each new/used lifter.
@@Jovemdaluta shit, thx
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