► Kettle Knights Podcast On Spotify - spoti.fi/33S4Fil Dan John has spent his life with one foot in the world of lifting and throwing, and the other foot in academia. An All-American discus thrower, Dan has also competed at the highest levels of Olympic lifting, Highland Games and the Weight Pentathlon, an event in which he holds the American record.
Protein, Vegetables, Water, Pushing, Pulling, Hinge, Crouching, Carrying, climbing hills, running fast, sleeping 8 hours a day, and meditating. The genius belonging to simplicity.
Great conversation, Gregory. I didn't expect to learn the etymological background of the word stellar and its German counterpart, Sternschnuppe. Wunderbar. A couple of points I particularly enjoyed: Simple but not easy. Man what a statement. Love it. Dan's comment about doing heavy TGUs is one I agree with. They can be great indicators or strength tests but to do reps of anything over 32kg, I do not think the risk vs reward works out. Just my opinion. The comments regarding the lower back impingement or aggravation with 1H swings is one I've dealt with. And I think most people do not have the kinetic sense to properly brace the core and lat to prevent flexion and spinal torsion where the abdomen angles towards the swinging hand creating torque on the hip joint. I've had to correct my own 1h swing form because of this. It takes a lot of awareness and experience. The closing points about knowing for yourself what the point of even picking the weights. Be it kettlebell, barbell, or anything else. For most of us who are not sport athletes, I know this and train for longevity, health, strength and to prevent injury. Looking good naked or otherwise is the added bonus. It is kind of a meme, but approaching "functional fitness" with an understanding that it will prevent me from getting injured in my day to day and keep my body functioning into my elder years are my top goal. Thanks as always for the content, Gregory. I would be curious to hear what Dan thinks about heavy steel club/mace training for the laymen in the next conversation as he made the funny comment about rotation patterns on bosu balls, lol.
It is quite safe now to go all the way from 16kg to 40kg since you can buy kettlebells in sizes 20, 24, 28, 32 and 36kg and you can get to the 40 by sticking to that comfortable 4kg progression. I noticed that a lot of people who struggle with the 40kg at the start was because they jumped up 8kg from a 32kg and got caught out. 😉👍 The TGU is a great exercise. I'm 60 years old and it has improved my mobility, it teaches me to get up off the floor if I should fall down, and part of the movement mimics rolling out of the bed to my side and you also have the lunge that train me on how to propel myself forward too. There is also an element of midfulness in the exercise that nmakes it a fun exercise. But I can see Dan's point too. You don't need to load it up to 40kg to get the benefit of the exercise. I'm at 20kg at the moment for a TGU and it's more than enuff to meet life's needs. But if people want to load it up to 40kg and beyond...I say more power to them. An exercise shouldn't get a bad rap because some people took that exercise to the extreme or maybe went beyond their capabilities at times and dropped a bell on themselves. That type of an event is not limited to kettlebells or to that exercise. You can cause injury or death with a barbell too with a totally different exercise. How many times do you see guys in the gym on their own benching serious weight without spotters or safety guards and there is a risk to life in that too if they have a slip up.....so should we deem bench pressing a dangerous exercise too? I like Pavel's S&S program and it is designed to do the Swing and TGU comfortably and daily....ideal for a lot of guys like me. But it can get boring at times. I also have Jeff Sokol's "Kettlebell Foundations" program which suits me better. He is StrongFirst too and his program is based around Pavel's "owning and practicing" the movements as opposed to focusing on weights. Its a 3 day a week program that will cover the whole body each week and each day is totally different so it never gets boring. There is like three phases in each workout....the first two phases sort of primes your body for the work to come in the third phase. Day 1 is two hand swing based with some TGU drills thrown in there to prime you for a set of 3 each side. Day 2 is squats, cleans and presses based with a few TGU thrown in there to keep you honest. Day 3 works on balance, cross body stabilization and has single leg stuff like deadlifts, lunges, with lawnmower rows, 1 arm swings and TGU thrown in there. Jeff loves the TGU and throws a bit in on all his three work outs. But there is also other stuff spread out into his workouts that keeps it interesting and free from boredom like push ups or chest press, bird dogs, hardstyle planks, planks with shoulder taps, prying goblet squats with curls, kneeling and standing halos. Jeff Sokol would be a nice guy to interview too some time along with Taco Fleur.....both solid kettlebelling guys.
I agree and I took his comment as a statement against lifting big numbers just because. Ego lifting is risky. Period. There are tons of videos of crossfitters dropping the bar on their neck because they are doing squat snatches beyond their capacity.
Gregory, love these podcasts, but do you have them on a podcast server somewhere such that I can listen to them on a podcast app? I ask because I like to do so while I workout or on a daily walk after a workout and youtube isn't always the best medium for that. Thanks!
I see Dans point that 99% basics will always beat the 1% Kettlebell bosu swing guy. But I think it is hardly fair to put Bill in this bosu Ball category. He does things beside the basics, but it looks very close to it (for me).
► Kettle Knights Podcast On Spotify - spoti.fi/33S4Fil
Dan John has spent his life with one foot in the world of lifting and throwing, and the other foot in academia. An All-American discus thrower, Dan has also competed at the highest levels of Olympic lifting, Highland Games and the Weight Pentathlon, an event in which he holds the American record.
Love all your conversations but Dan always stands out. Such a big fan of his work and philosophy . “Simple, not easy”
Great to hear dan john getting lifetime achievement. Only discovered him this year and feel like he should get way more recognition. Top coach
This flew by! Was over almost before it began. Thanks for sharing 😁
Always love Dan, thank you.
Gotta love the Sternschnuppis 😍
I feel like I’m stalking Dan John on the you tubes 👍
I will alert the Neighborhood Watch!!!
😅😅😅
Protein, Vegetables, Water, Pushing, Pulling, Hinge, Crouching, Carrying, climbing hills, running fast, sleeping 8 hours a day, and meditating. The genius belonging to simplicity.
Great conversation, Gregory. I didn't expect to learn the etymological background of the word stellar and its German counterpart, Sternschnuppe. Wunderbar.
A couple of points I particularly enjoyed:
Simple but not easy. Man what a statement. Love it.
Dan's comment about doing heavy TGUs is one I agree with. They can be great indicators or strength tests but to do reps of anything over 32kg, I do not think the risk vs reward works out. Just my opinion.
The comments regarding the lower back impingement or aggravation with 1H swings is one I've dealt with. And I think most people do not have the kinetic sense to properly brace the core and lat to prevent flexion and spinal torsion where the abdomen angles towards the swinging hand creating torque on the hip joint. I've had to correct my own 1h swing form because of this. It takes a lot of awareness and experience.
The closing points about knowing for yourself what the point of even picking the weights. Be it kettlebell, barbell, or anything else. For most of us who are not sport athletes, I know this and train for longevity, health, strength and to prevent injury. Looking good naked or otherwise is the added bonus. It is kind of a meme, but approaching "functional fitness" with an understanding that it will prevent me from getting injured in my day to day and keep my body functioning into my elder years are my top goal.
Thanks as always for the content, Gregory. I would be curious to hear what Dan thinks about heavy steel club/mace training for the laymen in the next conversation as he made the funny comment about rotation patterns on bosu balls, lol.
Great observations! - Gregory
It is quite safe now to go all the way from 16kg to 40kg since you can buy kettlebells in sizes 20, 24, 28, 32 and 36kg and you can get to the 40 by sticking to that comfortable 4kg progression. I noticed that a lot of people who struggle with the 40kg at the start was because they jumped up 8kg from a 32kg and got caught out. 😉👍
The TGU is a great exercise. I'm 60 years old and it has improved my mobility, it teaches me to get up off the floor if I should fall down, and part of the movement mimics rolling out of the bed to my side and you also have the lunge that train me on how to propel myself forward too. There is also an element of midfulness in the exercise that nmakes it a fun exercise. But I can see Dan's point too. You don't need to load it up to 40kg to get the benefit of the exercise. I'm at 20kg at the moment for a TGU and it's more than enuff to meet life's needs. But if people want to load it up to 40kg and beyond...I say more power to them. An exercise shouldn't get a bad rap because some people took that exercise to the extreme or maybe went beyond their capabilities at times and dropped a bell on themselves. That type of an event is not limited to kettlebells or to that exercise. You can cause injury or death with a barbell too with a totally different exercise. How many times do you see guys in the gym on their own benching serious weight without spotters or safety guards and there is a risk to life in that too if they have a slip up.....so should we deem bench pressing a dangerous exercise too?
I like Pavel's S&S program and it is designed to do the Swing and TGU comfortably and daily....ideal for a lot of guys like me. But it can get boring at times. I also have Jeff Sokol's "Kettlebell Foundations" program which suits me better. He is StrongFirst too and his program is based around Pavel's "owning and practicing" the movements as opposed to focusing on weights. Its a 3 day a week program that will cover the whole body each week and each day is totally different so it never gets boring. There is like three phases in each workout....the first two phases sort of primes your body for the work to come in the third phase. Day 1 is two hand swing based with some TGU drills thrown in there to prime you for a set of 3 each side. Day 2 is squats, cleans and presses based with a few TGU thrown in there to keep you honest. Day 3 works on balance, cross body stabilization and has single leg stuff like deadlifts, lunges, with lawnmower rows, 1 arm swings and TGU thrown in there. Jeff loves the TGU and throws a bit in on all his three work outs. But there is also other stuff spread out into his workouts that keeps it interesting and free from boredom like push ups or chest press, bird dogs, hardstyle planks, planks with shoulder taps, prying goblet squats with curls, kneeling and standing halos.
Jeff Sokol would be a nice guy to interview too some time along with Taco Fleur.....both solid kettlebelling guys.
I agree and I took his comment as a statement against lifting big numbers just because. Ego lifting is risky. Period. There are tons of videos of crossfitters dropping the bar on their neck because they are doing squat snatches beyond their capacity.
Gregory, love these podcasts, but do you have them on a podcast server somewhere such that I can listen to them on a podcast app? I ask because I like to do so while I workout or on a daily walk after a workout and youtube isn't always the best medium for that. Thanks!
Here it is Mike! ► Kettle Knights Podcast On Spotify - spoti.fi/33S4Fil
Challenge accepted, dan
Please have on Joe Daniels!
I see Dans point that 99% basics will always beat the 1% Kettlebell bosu swing guy. But I think it is hardly fair to put Bill in this bosu Ball category. He does things beside the basics, but it looks very close to it (for me).
I‘m sure it wasn‘t Dan‘s intention to put Bill into any kind of category.
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