What Oliveira Means To Me(IEM Katowice 2023 Champion)

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  • @stetsonstarkey
    @stetsonstarkey Рік тому +192

    His run is certainly a competitor for one of the best of all time. But his interview? No question, the best interview of all time.

    • @Lanzetsu
      @Lanzetsu Рік тому +2

      IMHO it was on par with NesTea or sOs when winning their first GSL

    • @brianz5922
      @brianz5922 Рік тому +12

      his run was amazing, with all the opponents he had to overcome.
      He was talking about how he did it in a stream after.
      I remember he was saying after Reynor had a 2-0 lead on him, he took a break to the restroom clam himself down. He was telling himself just play the game normally nothing to lose.
      On the other hand, he said Reynor wasn't clam, Reynor was in like hyper mode.
      During the stream on breaking down what happened in all his matches. He kept saying he was lucky and god was on his side.
      Like game 2 or 3 with Maru, when Maru did a reaper cheese rush. He said if Maru send scv up with his first reaper instead of waiting for 2 reapers, he would've lost right there.
      However, he said he did the exact build that able to defense the 2 reapers rush instead.

  • @user-jz4bg2ut1n
    @user-jz4bg2ut1n Рік тому +113

    In his recent stream, Oliveira also announced that all the earnings due to this championship including commercial advertisement and products will be donated to the charity in China. He said he has two dreams - one is the world championship and another one is to build a charity primary school in the poor region of China. Fans like us joked that the school could be named as Ghost Academy but he said he wanted to name it as Star school for Starcraft. What a man!

    • @Britinsweden
      @Britinsweden Рік тому

      Can you put the link to his twitch on here… or where he streams

    • @user-cg6vi5cm8u
      @user-cg6vi5cm8u Рік тому +1

      @@Britinsweden Part1 : ua-cam.com/video/i65xiy6PJOg/v-deo.html
      Part2 : ua-cam.com/video/cdhtW8CPa74/v-deo.html

    • @user-cg6vi5cm8u
      @user-cg6vi5cm8u Рік тому

      ​@@Britinsweden The part he mentioned is in the third part, and the third part has not yet. If you can't understand Chinese then wait the third part pls

    • @Britinsweden
      @Britinsweden Рік тому

      @@user-cg6vi5cm8u nice one mate. I found his channel on that Chinese app. It’s all in Chinese. Trying to work it out tho 😂

    • @jameszheng1412
      @jameszheng1412 Рік тому +1

      ghost academy lmao

  • @AndrewPreston2
    @AndrewPreston2 Рік тому +48

    If StarCraft 2 can make me tear up during a Championship speech almost 13 years after its release, than it must have years of life left in it.

  • @Kingsman51895
    @Kingsman51895 Рік тому +82

    He make millions of Chinese StarCraft 2 players dream come true 😭😭😭

  • @blue-phoenix115
    @blue-phoenix115 Рік тому +26

    Noticed how he's terrible at English but still manage to say a lot of interesting points, then as soon as he switched to Chinese, his words hits you in the heart.

  • @snchan9894
    @snchan9894 Рік тому +51

    The speech is emotional partly because he talking in language foreign to him and he uses simple english and it comes up as very genuine, simple and direct. You can see his win slowly sink in on him as the interviews goes along and remember the hardwork he has done and start breakdown in tears. As an audience you can feel it and that what i think is so power and different.

    • @eto1842
      @eto1842 Рік тому +3

      or he's just being honest, which can explain why his Chinese speech is even more emotional

  • @davideloi9176
    @davideloi9176 Рік тому +29

    Smix was exceptional in that moment, in that interview. No one else could have handled the emotions like her. She didn't repress it, she went along with it but without fully losing control. And she was smiling and moved and genuinely happy for Ollie like many, most, all of the casters (I suppose all, I know that i was!)

    • @MrDdz
      @MrDdz Рік тому +4

      8:34 That throwing of the head back when he said his dad didn't give up on him. She was about to burst. Good save.

    • @leanin2it
      @leanin2it Рік тому

      Yes!

    • @donjuan3296
      @donjuan3296 11 місяців тому +1

      Everyone was crying by that time

  • @indiesnake7335
    @indiesnake7335 Рік тому +43

    Subtitle for the Chinese part is accurate including the timings, good job 👍

    • @feardragon64
      @feardragon64  Рік тому +4

      Glad to hear it!

    • @MrDdz
      @MrDdz Рік тому +2

      Having watched a bunch of CDramas, I recognized the term "pua kuh nun" as "impossible" at ~9:17. That's when I knew the timing was right!

  • @PatrickMacIlwaineMusic
    @PatrickMacIlwaineMusic Рік тому +54

    I almost cried watching this video. What a speech.

    • @DrenalineRush927
      @DrenalineRush927 Рік тому +12

      Cried watching it live and tearing up again reliving his speech. FFFF

    • @MrDdz
      @MrDdz Рік тому +2

      Almost? Lies. You were bawling.

    • @PatrickMacIlwaineMusic
      @PatrickMacIlwaineMusic Рік тому +1

      @@MrDdz live maybe

    • @Britinsweden
      @Britinsweden Рік тому +2

      I cried 4 times… Watched it 4 times the interview at the end 😂
      Smix crying too doesn’t help haha

    • @bsk76022
      @bsk76022 Рік тому

      I cried too early 😂

  • @aisanovac3801
    @aisanovac3801 Рік тому +9

    I don't even play starcraft2, and I cried listening to him. Truly inspirational in all fields where everyone is trying their best just to prove to themselves, that they are a champion by just not giving up!

  • @michaelauman2501
    @michaelauman2501 Рік тому +38

    It was a great run and a beautiful ending. He kept going forward. Thanks for making this video.

    • @pocarisweet8336
      @pocarisweet8336 Рік тому +2

      You could say. He was stimming forward. In one of the game with reynor his marines were 1 stim away from dying. Lol

  • @james-ty8ce
    @james-ty8ce Рік тому +6

    good video. Gotta say, i overlooked Time for so long -- i really didnt realize he spoke much english even. But my God, what story -- what a talent.

  • @Mr_Tovarish
    @Mr_Tovarish Рік тому +22

    SC2 is and will forever be the best esport. His speech makes me cry every time

  • @yunfanfan9452
    @yunfanfan9452 Рік тому +11

    Oliveira's story will never get old. I can't get enough of how incredible this IEM has been for him and for all of us fans. We're all normal people that hope to one day achieve something great. Just look at Oliveira!

  • @arccos0160
    @arccos0160 Рік тому +14

    I played StarCraft for more than 10 years. Lately I am struggling with my life but the story of Oli gave me the courage and hope at the right time. Thank you StarCraft2, thank you Time.

  • @jochagu
    @jochagu Рік тому +8

    The last 5 to 10 seconds on the last game against Maru. That was such a beautiful move from Oliveira. And that speech. I cried when I saw him live. And I will cry every single time I see a recording of it. So human, so emotional and so, so relatable.

  • @aliceinwonder8978
    @aliceinwonder8978 Рік тому +3

    I loved watching his run and I'm crying all over again watching his speech. And I must say, he is the most humble high-performer I've maybe ever seen.
    But, I have to say the kind of wishful thinking "anyone can achieve their dream if they try hard enough" is simply not true. Just mathematically, only 1 person can be world champion even when hundreds or thousands are fighting for it. No matter how hard everyone works, only 1 person can ever win. Additional factors like genetics, talent, support systems all determine your ability to win as well. Almost no one has the luxury of 12 hours of free time a day to practice for 8 years.
    I think what he's trying to say is he is no better than the rest of us. And I think that's a good message. He is very humble and saying normal people can achieve a lot if they try hard. And I think that's true. But that doesn't mean anyone can achieve anything. And I think promising people results based on hard work is generally a lie and hard work often does not end up in results. Work as hard as you want, but only a small number of people will ever get that promotion or that trophy. You can't control your circumstances or your results, only your process. I know it's a "downer" thing to say, but I take another perspective - you don't have to prove you are better than others to feel good or validated. You are good enough as you are. By all means, work hard and achieve what you can, but you shouldn't have to beat others to feel good about yourself and your work and your progress.

  • @capt_hapa
    @capt_hapa Рік тому +12

    i guess it really was the right time

  • @junchengdai4150
    @junchengdai4150 Рік тому +16

    thank you so much for making this video. we CN sc players wanted this kind of title for over 20 years and this year we lost the blizzard CN server, this is almost like a killing blow to all chinese players who love blizzard games. and SC environment wasn't that great in China. I Mean this Championship give us hope and made hundred of thousands chinese SC players and fans dreams come true. GUYS Never stop believing yourself. this is the beauty of eSports. Hope he can inspire more and more players to chase their dreams. Really hope sc2 communities grow bigger and bigger.

  • @canoeeco
    @canoeeco Рік тому +13

    I watched a live stream from Oliveira after he returned to China. He basically reviewed all the matches after the group stage. He is just so humble and real, kept saying that his opponents are much stronger than what presented in the games, and he was just having a better mental status. You didn't read too much into it, and thank you for making this video.

    • @Cr4yZnPsyCh0t1c
      @Cr4yZnPsyCh0t1c Рік тому

      was the stream recorded? I would love to watch this and can understand chinese

    • @skychaos87
      @skychaos87 Рік тому +1

      @@Cr4yZnPsyCh0t1c yes, someone actually post it on YT. For some reason its hard to post links in yt comments without getting deleted. You can search for it, as for translation someone did a full translation on reddit. I can understand Chinese but his accent is hard for me to understand, especially the chinese terms they use for sc2.

    • @canoeeco
      @canoeeco Рік тому

      @@Cr4yZnPsyCh0t1c this is the video id: oM7470CPkhE

  • @esarel
    @esarel Рік тому +8

    ravi every time i watch his speech i cry man. ffuck this was a good year for us all.

  • @Wanderer1991
    @Wanderer1991 Рік тому +2

    Hell, it’s about Time.

  • @SparkycgdHD
    @SparkycgdHD Рік тому +2

    What a beautiful story. Im sat in public choking up holding back tears at this man's journey and achievement 😭

  • @xinrongli53
    @xinrongli53 Рік тому +4

    Very good video, I like what you mentioned and I also had the same feeling that during the interview, Oliverira was in the perspective of us who are normal players playing the game and love the game. Especially as a Chinese fan, I played sc1 following my older cousin since 6 years old. I love this game so much, I always dreamed about maybe one day china could win a championship. Although we had many talented players in SC1 such as Legend, F91, and Pj who even made second place in WCG before, it just feels like it is impossible to get a champion. He just made our dream come true, it even feels like that we as fans in china win a championship by ourselves. Can't stop crying every time I watch his interview cause it feels like he is talking for us, he is talking just like a normal boy who is in deep love with this game! Congraz and thank you very much Oliveira for making my dream come true!

  • @Mahdcat
    @Mahdcat Рік тому +10

    Imagine had he beat Ragnarock? Ragnarock, HeroMarine, Reynor, Hero and Maru? Had he done that, there would be no doubt this was the best run any player has ever had in a SC2 Tournament ever. But not beating Ragnarock made his win so much more unexpected and special. The adversity and determination made his success unforgettable. Congrats again Oliveira.

  • @ecotechpestservices
    @ecotechpestservices Рік тому +1

    This is the toe of video I’ve been searching for! Your video came of as wholesome as he is. Love it!

  • @aimwell7089
    @aimwell7089 Рік тому +3

    Finally videos are being done about this. Well done!

  • @2482jamie
    @2482jamie Рік тому +1

    Great vid. Thanks for your work at the event. was anamazing week. Love this Game, love this story

  • @timbaleno9269
    @timbaleno9269 Рік тому +1

    Great, because I needed to cry to this again. Incredible video mate good work!

  • @falcon758
    @falcon758 Рік тому +2

    Great vid @Feardragon!
    This was such an amazing and special moment in SC2 history

  • @slave2truth4freedom
    @slave2truth4freedom Рік тому +1

    Gotta love Oliveira now. Still can't believe how he just went completely super saiyan and beat all the best players in the world in this tournament in such a convincing manner. Reminds me of Serral's early domination and how unexpected it was at the time. I didn't watch IEM till now and had it spoiled that he won against maru, but I assumed he must have had a somewhat easy path and just been unstoppable in one matchup, TvT. Which still would have been very impressive but would have left us feeling like he got pretty lucky and wondering what might have been. Totally wrong, he beat the 1st/2nd best zerg in the world and the best protoss in the world on his way to beating the best terran in the world. Couldn't have been better. Truly a historic run and a beautiful interview and story to go with it. This is what we all want to see. Regardless of what he does in the future he is now immortalized in the history of sc2 and in sc2 fans hearts.

  • @thingsforeverrr
    @thingsforeverrr Рік тому +4

    Thanks for making this

  • @kaylynnowensmurrell1703
    @kaylynnowensmurrell1703 Рік тому +1

    What a beautiful video, thank you, feardragon!

  • @sekisc
    @sekisc Рік тому +3

    Watching his run, I really felt like a sports anime actually happening, I needed a day or two to actually believe this happened.

  • @vincenttheo8841
    @vincenttheo8841 Рік тому

    Thank you for this video - you truly have a great and sensitive heart to interpret a great and sensitive heartfelt speech.

  • @dustinmorrison6315
    @dustinmorrison6315 Рік тому +6

    This win was absolutely deserved. Go watch the games against herO. They were amazing. This underdog story could have a manga.

  • @stonecoat_art
    @stonecoat_art Рік тому +4

    not a dry eye in the house

  • @leanin2it
    @leanin2it Рік тому

    My favorite moment in esports so far. This moment meant a lot to me and I am so thankful to be a part of the passionate community that sustains these efforts. Brilliant play from Oliveira and then to show such a display of character. A truly inspiring moment where competition brought out the best of this collective human effort. Thanks for your reflection, feardragon!

  • @kl9929
    @kl9929 Рік тому +2

    Very well said. Thank you

  • @thunders2020
    @thunders2020 Рік тому +1

    so emotionally uplifting!

  • @rapha.12
    @rapha.12 Рік тому +3

    what an inspiring video thanks oliveira

  • @walden6272
    @walden6272 Рік тому +4

    Having achieve his dream, it would not surprise me if he doesn't win again or retires.

  • @deneb9857
    @deneb9857 Рік тому +1

    I love this recap and your sharing about it, feel the same - greatest upset tournament in SC2 history, and I saw all tournaments :D only stardust comes close to me, taking home dreamhack bakc in the days.

  • @connorhancock5709
    @connorhancock5709 Рік тому +7

    his game 2 vs reynor was still the best i think ive ever seen time play, and reynor too for that matter. SO.. fircken. good.

    • @pawacoteng
      @pawacoteng Рік тому

      I've rewatched that part of the vod so many times. Feardragon was casting that game! But ZG was on a different plane - she immediately noticed when Oliveira turned on the switch from normal man to God mode.

  • @guopeng7882
    @guopeng7882 Рік тому +2

    @7:00, I think what he means is that the most important preparation he did was to prepare mentally. Telling himself the most important thing for him at the moment is calming down. It's important to not thinking to much about wining or losing the game when nothing has happened. I'm very impressed when he said that he was trying to give up after the 0-6 but actually he keep up his great work, which is very hard.

  • @macedindu829
    @macedindu829 Рік тому

    Absolutely the most remarkable run I've ever witnessed in competition. Truly insane. His comments afterward just iced the cake.

  • @Chimpy_Mc_Gibbon
    @Chimpy_Mc_Gibbon Рік тому

    Great video!

  • @kgr_alex
    @kgr_alex Рік тому +2

    ngl I almost cried when he started crying

  • @darudy
    @darudy Рік тому +2

    Nice videos!

  • @PatrickMacIlwaineMusic
    @PatrickMacIlwaineMusic Рік тому +2

    was awesome.

  • @yummy90the2nd
    @yummy90the2nd Рік тому +1

    his unfiltered speech was really one of the best out there, long live sc2

  • @DEN2REQUIN
    @DEN2REQUIN Рік тому +1

    Great video

  • @GPCyanide
    @GPCyanide Рік тому +4

    on point

  • @windsound2010
    @windsound2010 Рік тому +3

    The translation is good :)

  • @tatotato85
    @tatotato85 Рік тому +2

    Love this game

  • @garypardyphotography
    @garypardyphotography Рік тому

    Ravi, really excellent take on the most amazing Cinderella story in eSports history. We are unworthy of such an earnest and inspiring champion.

  • @simonl1135
    @simonl1135 Рік тому +4

    In other news, following this year's IEM Katowice, maru, herO and Reynor have reportedly decided to change their names to Silva, Dos Santos and Pereira respectively. Serral is apparently considering "Serreira", but it is as of now an unconfirmed rumour.
    And made up like everything I said.

  • @Justbleed434
    @Justbleed434 Рік тому +5

    Starcraft 2 is definitely not dead. It still has a strong community.

  • @osobaum
    @osobaum Рік тому +3

    Quality!

  • @mareksicinski449
    @mareksicinski449 Рік тому +1

    5:07 painstakingly means detailed, not painfully
    painstaking - means to take pains in the context of making detailed or accurate

  • @Yrtiop
    @Yrtiop Рік тому +8

    Damn i'm crying again

  • @ledrash6079
    @ledrash6079 Рік тому

    I get goose bumps, OH SORRY! NERD CHILLS (hello Artosis) when watching this.
    Have wished for someone to cover this since i felt sad the broadcast ended "too early" :)

  • @gosuhenke
    @gosuhenke 11 місяців тому +1

    This guy bois ❤

  • @arn_ice
    @arn_ice Рік тому

    what a story, one of if not the best in online gaming sports.

  • @MozartificeR
    @MozartificeR Рік тому

    The dream scenario for any Esport I reckon:)

  • @zl7460
    @zl7460 Рік тому +4

    Oliveira = GOAT

  • @ext8023
    @ext8023 Рік тому

    👏👏👏👏 go Olievera!!!

  • @princevegeta3325
    @princevegeta3325 7 місяців тому

    BEST UNDERDOG STORY EVER!!!

  • @LamyCND
    @LamyCND Рік тому +1

    Best game.

  • @checkwhatsleft4565
    @checkwhatsleft4565 Рік тому

    I recall in the year of 2019, there was this repeater expand build in TvT that often being used by pro gamers, you will get blind countered if you are lower league player by using this build but that doesn't happen in the highest level, however I did wonder that what if pro gamer does the same blind counter to other pro gamers because they are very much familiar many builds, aren't they?

  • @yuawu9753
    @yuawu9753 Рік тому +3

    He's for sure a talent boy, 14 as grandmaster in Korea server, 17 as No.1 in China.
    But until 22, before IEM, tons of failure, ONLY 0.37% chance to win the title, due to other talent boys especially from Korea...
    But anyway, this is best run in SC2 history in my mind

    • @gotentk4
      @gotentk4 8 місяців тому

      Yeah he's not normal

  • @eto1842
    @eto1842 Рік тому +1

    What a tournament! TIME showed everyone what "working harder" can do. And how a miracle is actually plausible.
    I was watching different livestreaming of the final day because I simply did not know about the date and missed the livestream. It would be my biggest regret in recent years of e-sports watching.
    as a player in China, even with TIME's winning, I cannot say thanks to Blizzard
    (according to current reports) it is entirely due to someone being jerk inside Blizzard, that cause current situation with Blizzard games in China. When Blizzard said they care about the well-beings of Chinese players, their actions did not comply.

    • @eto1842
      @eto1842 Рік тому

      @@seanstopher5396 try not to let your eyes and ears covered by your prejudice. is it so hard to admit the hard-working and success of a great player?

  • @leeimpp1471
    @leeimpp1471 Рік тому +1

    Oliveira: I am a normal man but work hard enough to get to the star. Thanks you for your story mate, thank you.

  • @sohu86x
    @sohu86x Рік тому

    He was talking to himself, the "you" is directed to himself.

  • @BeoMulf
    @BeoMulf Рік тому +5

    😭

  • @audreym2041
    @audreym2041 Рік тому

    best interview of all time. So good

  • @xiaoyiyuan11
    @xiaoyiyuan11 Рік тому +1

    i actually watched his steam ( in Chinese ) where he review and comment on his game during this journey. In summary : 1. he lost so many times so he’s quiet confident at disadvantage situations. 2. When he’s 0-2 reynor he told himself don’t worry about win or lose . Just play another game on big screen. 3. With the games goes on he become more and more confident. Where he thinks if he plays good and steady he can beat even maru

    • @timwang3790
      @timwang3790 Рік тому

      @Zohbert Then why no one refuse and spread out the info?they dont want champ?

  • @angelojayproductions
    @angelojayproductions Рік тому

    Oliviera run should be a single run Starcraft anime... it's perfect for it! Someone make it happen...

  • @donjuan3296
    @donjuan3296 11 місяців тому

    Smix is such a great host, she hyped him up hard in the interview 3:20

  • @davidratkai3067
    @davidratkai3067 Рік тому +1

    How can I reach Oliveria? I wanna congrat him personally. Thanks.

  • @wap2596
    @wap2596 Рік тому +8

    Your video is interesting but I think there is some overread or misread (due to some cultural or community difference)
    1. The usage of "You" instead of "I" is just common in Chinese. He mainly wants to tell that a man's past achievement is not that important. Practice and preparation makes you win next one.
    2. His speech mainly focuses on three things.
    2.1 His hardworking: 12-15 hours a day, is what a Korean players normally spent under ProLeague system. Nowadays Korean goes more slack, while Time still practices hard and finally catch up with them.
    2.2 His (and his father's) belief in himself. The Chinese SC2 community is passionate but tough as well. There is no new players coming out, so fans put all hopes on TIME. (A dream for 25 years) When TIME got 0-6 in Atlanta last year, his situation was really bad. Desperation and frustration from both fans and himself turned on him, and news about the end of CN server came at the same time. So he decided that if he did not perform well in IEM, he would just retire.
    2.3 His mentality shift after he is in RO8. He was facing the best players, his performs (entering RO8) was already satisfied by both himself and fans, and there is nothing to lose. He can then enjoy every moment on the stage. While other players may underestimate him a bit, and get tilted when he fight back.

    • @wap2596
      @wap2596 Рік тому +5

      Well when I review what I wrote above, I feel that it is very close to what you said in the video, but I believe you missed something important since you are not fully familiar to our community. But thank you for your video anyway

    • @feardragon64
      @feardragon64  Рік тому +4

      Entirely fair! I mention in the video I may have overanalyzed through a language barrier but I still think the overall sentiment of his speech was touching. At the end of the day, the video is more on what his victory means to me than the literal interpretation of what he said so I stand by the video. But your point is entirely valid.

    • @ericwang914
      @ericwang914 Рік тому +9

      @@feardragon64 Even in Chinese, the word you doesn't mean I. He indeed wants to encourage many normal people like himself never to give up. It is a culture called 'positive energy', if you look at Jack Ma's previous speech he also did a lot of that, like I can do it, so do you.

  • @SpeedyBozar
    @SpeedyBozar Рік тому +1

    WOW, Alright. OK. It has been done. The destiny has been fulfilled. Normal man has risen. False gods have fallen.

  • @n0madfernan257
    @n0madfernan257 Рік тому

    5:25 i think the "i dont need a x championship" means "i don't have to be a x champion" just to be the best. just my cents.

  • @Erdbeerheld1
    @Erdbeerheld1 Рік тому +2

    I did really love his games, his emotions, and the speech itself, too. But saying everybody can achieve everything simply is not true. There are different aspects to performance: Yes, there is practice, but there also are biological factors like, on a very basic level, having functional hands. Being able to see properly. Basically, not being impaired or having a severe health limitation.

    • @vienna0810
      @vienna0810 Рік тому

      And luck, also (not taking anything away from him he worked really really hard) his family is actually quite well off and could support him to go on this journey

    • @dylansevitt
      @dylansevitt Рік тому +2

      I think the idea is that he put in 12 hours a day for 8 years. If you actually look, he obviously had some natural talent and skill but we all do in something or some space, we then need to put in the time the effort and interest to react the top of the field we are naturally good at.

  • @jeffreywarf
    @jeffreywarf Рік тому

    It does help he comes from a wealthy family that allows him to just practice and play StarCraft 10+ hours a day to let him work towards this. This is why North America will never have as many esports champions. Once you turn 18 it's "get out and start earning your right to be alive"

  • @PabloRodriguez-dj6gi
    @PabloRodriguez-dj6gi Рік тому +1

    Cheers for Time, but a top20 winning world champion means something is terrible wrong with the game

  • @CodeNameLL
    @CodeNameLL Рік тому +1

    There's literally no reason to not like this guy unless you really really hate terrans

    • @skychaos87
      @skychaos87 Рік тому +1

      lol

    • @pocarisweet8336
      @pocarisweet8336 Рік тому

      Or if you hate everything chinese. Lol ive seen comments about match fixing. As if maru would sell out to get the only championship he's never had.

  • @PartiedOutPhil
    @PartiedOutPhil Рік тому +2

    Dude, some people are still catching up on this tournament. Instant unsub from me.