Condor Hudson Bay: Woods Cleaver! [Full Review]
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- At about $50 dollars, the Condor Hudson Bay is a great blade. Its broad blade chops well for its size and weight and edge holding was good. The hammered finish reduces drag when batoning. The carbon steel, shown and discussed is probably harder that you think. Made in El Salvador, the leather sheath is strong and adequate. Downsides would include no lanyard hole, slick and somewhat short handle. Highly recommended mid to large survival knife/////////Nutnfancy Likability Scale: 8.5 out of 10//////////////Buy at Amazon with this link if you're a TNPrL www.amazon.com/...
If you want to drill through hard steel/stainless use plumbers putty to build a wall around where you're drilling and fill it with oil. If you're gentle the heat will dissipate and your drill bit will stay sharp. Without oil the steel you're drilling into will harden with heat and kill drill bits.
Did not know that, you taught me something. I will try it sometime, thanks.
270Remi Awesome tip, I'm going to try that!
If you feel that you have important stuff to say about the knife you are reviewing you shouldn't limit yourself to a certain amount of time. Real fans of TNP will watch no matter the limit because they trust and value your input. People don't need to come in here and complain about the time when you give really good quality reviews. Remember this is alway your channel not some guy or girls behind a computer screen.
I wouldn't call myself a fan but I'd watch it up to an hour but after that there's shit I gotta do.
Always watch at night.
That feeling you get when Nutn' reviews something you already own and love- and it's a TNP home run. :)
Dude nice choice on the knife...I didn't think anyone else knew about this one. -Nutn actual
nutnfancy It's got me interested in Condor's other offerings.
I think its simplistic look makes it cool and rustic.
Me too -Nutn
MrLsmiles the only feature it's missing is a choil to allow long term use and resharpening. Without it, the blade lacks potential longevity.
A finger choil has nothing to do with knife's life....it's a feature of a knife
Nobody said finger choil, to my recollection. I was speaking to a lack of a choil where the cutting edge and ricasso meet.
My bad I never heard the term choil used besides for a finger
Really glad you reviewed this knife. It's a very rustic knife, reminding me of using my grandmother's Old Hickory butcher knife as a kid. But this knife is well beyond most other companies products costing $100+, as you said. Plain, basic, no frills work horse that will do whats its intended for, beat the shit out of anything you put in front of it! Thanks again for a great review!
French Canadian 18th century primal forest bushcraft folks developed this pattern.
Attn Condor, add a factory lanyard hole please.
That looks like a heck of a deal. And I like that hammered finish. It speaks of times gone by when every town had a blacksmith. Nice review....thanks!!
Keep the long vids coming Nutn! Love the info and no one does it better then you!
Screw the limits, nutn. I always appreciated the fact that you took the time to cover all aspects of a review item. That way it's just going to be rushed, please cut the limits for future GRSv, KRVs and all other vids.
Well that's the first time I've seen a comment like that and message received. It's a balance I have to strike: I like covering the philosophy, interesting original thoughts on POU, and the rest but if viewership drops off (like 20% finish the video) I'm often talking to myself. I can do 2, 5, 10, or 40 min reviews, it's just depends on the item and the mood I'm in. Thanks.
nutnfancy Thank you for listening and replying, nutn. I didn't mean to be offensive or anything, just felt it was an unnecessary idea. If you feel like talking for tens of minuntes is sometimes not worth it though, it's up to you. I, as well as many TNPrs will surely respect it if you decide to keep the limits.
Thanks for the shorter vids Nutn. I really enjoy what you do but I rarely have enough time for the longer reviews. Your brevity is much appreciated.
Price just went up 10% probably
GRIFF Don't say that.
Awesome job my friend, I've wanted this knife for few months. after buying my Rtak 2 knife. I must buy this now I trust what you say you hold nothing back amazing knife no doubt. keep up amazing job you do...
Ha,I got mine last year, really wasn't expecting much from it, but it's a tough sonvabitch. Condor Knives usually lack the fit and finish of more expensive blades (nowhere near custom knife quality), but if you are willing to just hone the blade a little bit, Condor Knives make great "user blades". You don't have to be afraid of making it look ugly.
Trusty Patches or using it....moding the shit out of it....i'm with u broham!!!
I can drive to El Salvador from California. It is not overseas.
You wouldn't want to.
Jeff Holbrook actually you cant, nice try though
Anthony Visconte James Woods drove to El Salvador in the movie "El Salvador ". I get all my information from Hollywood. And all my machetes from El Salvador! And I just googled the trip. It will take me 44 hours to reach El Salvador. You are incorrect sir! A Tourista will not make it. But I would. You would have to travel poorly maintained roads and shoot some road bandits. El Salvador is a third world shit-hole. Nobody wants to go there.
hudson bay knives were made in england for trade in british north america for several centuries. the same pattern you have i have seen used in the woods by native families hunting. i watched a man skin and butcher a moose, chop serious branches for firewood, and use it to serve cooked meat. it had been traded for furs in the late 1880's in northern manitoba (canada) by a grandfather so it was 100 yrs old when i saw it in use. i heard he had left it to a granddaughter who still uses it. it does look like a kitchen knife but was intended for all-around capability. tactical it is NOT, was never intended to be a weapon but a tool to survive and live. thanks for the good video and am glad you liked the HBC knife.
Condors warranty... GOOD. I was batoning through knotty wood with the old black painted model and could see the blade bend this way and that. It snapped right at the start of the clip point while batoning a subsequent small piece... metal fatigue may have set in. Condor replaced quickly with the new chipped flint finish design as you have... no questions asked. Brand new from the factory, second sheath included. I don't say the knife sucks because it broke... it was just one knife and I did test it a bit. It is a great chopper. Rock on NF!
The Hudson Bay Fur Trading Company during the 1800s sold these blades to the locals mostly in trade for furs. They were used to process large game such as elk & caribou, deer, bear, seals, etc. as well as anything else that needed doing. It's what I call a survival knife because it was used by a lot of people to survive under very harsh conditions.
having used the condor hudson bay knife for the past four years i can totally confirm your assessment of this knife...woods
I used to work for the Hudson Bay Company, the company that original used this style blade to trade for furs in the arctic. There are still original knives in use in the arctic, more than 100 years later. These are some of the original ones brought to the arctic hundreds of years ago by traders.
Welcome to the Condor HB fan club!! I've had mine for a few years now and, after a few mods I couldn't ask for a better big blade for the money. I've stippled(?) the grip and ground a "clip" into the tip. Condor makes awesome fixed blades for the cash.
Haha! The log cabin part was hilarious! The voice is perfect.
I was surprised we didn't see the classic RTAK 2 in the competitive options. At the price, grab a couple as back up options that you don't mind beating on when the need arises.
Amazing review as always. I'm extremely addicted to your videos. Keep them coming!!
Another great review. Thanks for all your hard work putting these together.
Just ordered the condor dundee, eco parang, and the bushcraft parang.... all same price, and all i believe will be more comfortable and out perform the hudson bay. But to each his own...i respect your reviews a lot and have been a long time viewer. Keep up the great work, dont lose motivation. You will get bored...
Hey nutnfancy you should do a video on how to prevent rust and sharpen you carbon steel knives for us less experienced viewers.
This knife chops through trees like pretzel sticks, but maintain it because it will rust. I took it on trail in Alaska as primary and only knife and it worked perfectly for me. and with a great sheath not no crappy nylon sheath
My first thought for competitive options went straight to the cold steel kukri, couldnt think of anything which would have the equal chopping ability or strength at that price point
Been watching since 2011 when I stumbled onto the Ar vs. Ak vids. I'm a military brat, but I've basically grown up in Florida/ the South and I couldn't get used to your accent at first. Lol. But now I can't get enough, I've watched most of your vids, and my daily carry knife is a kershaw skyline you recommended. Great knife I even cut jimping in like yours lol. You're a DAMN GOOD JOE. Keep up the good work!! Btw there is a bartender in Universal Orlando City walk that looks like he could be your younger brother! Lol.
I have the Condor Moonstalker which is basically a "tactical" and elongated versions of the Hudson Bay it only cost me between $55-60 dollars. (I bought it for the coating and micarta) I tested it on some invasive Honeysuckle shrubs in my yard and it's a great chopper and all around large knife. The Moonstalker and the Moonshiner (plain blade and wood handle version) remedy a lot of the problems with the Hudson Bay. But it does have a false edge that chews the crap out of batoning sticks.
The shape and handle remind me of the Old Hickory butcher knifes, I can see bush-crafters really loving this one.
Competitive options might be the Ontario or Kabar Kukri machet. Thanks for all the videos. Great job and service your providing to the community on here!
I rate Condor. I have the Hudson and Kephart, can't complain about quality or cost!
Nothing but love for condor on my end! That do require maintenance once the factory coating waits off to prevent rusting but that's the nature of high carbon steels.the bush lore and rodan are boath excellent knives and the sheathes are also excellent quality.
I hate auto correct sometimes lol
The nice thing about 1070 is, sharpening is easy peasy lemon squeezy. I'm like you with convex edges. They chop better but they are mor work than necessary. Re solid carbide bits, check eBay. $9 or $10. If you were considering a handle scale replacement, you could spot anneal the tang with a propane torch.
what a beast. can't go wrong with simple.
Hey there nutnfancy, I think you should perhaps go on one of them camping trips where you live out through the rough snowy terrain and put these knifes to use.... Just a suggestion
Hey nutn, nice vid as usual. After watching this I ordered one, got it in today and I love it! Thanks man.
i not a knife guy but i bought this one and glad i did. works great i even sharpened it and used it to cut meat lol. holds edge really well, cuts like butter
Ban time limits!
Message received.
I love the motorcycle stuff but man did I miss the blade reviews the past week or so. Keep up the good work Nutn!
I love my Hudson Bay, it is a beast of a knife.
hey nutn, idk if you'll ever see this but there are a number of great kydex sheathmakers out there who already have BK7's so you don't have to send your knife off to get a perfect-fitting sheath. grizzly-outdoors, red rhino, yellowhawk, just to name a few.
I use mine for cooking too. It's a bad chopper for cooking (thickness) but it does everything else well, especially mincing
Thanks for the review. Very helpful. I really enjoy your reviews!
I love Condors. You might take a look at the Varan, addresses the slippery handle and lanyard hole. My favorite of theirs is the Bushlore. Some of their products are kinda goofy but the basic knives are just a thick piece of steel between wood slabs, simplicity itself.
Great blade. Historically correct in design for what they carried in the past, most resembled a butcher's knife (high carbon steel) with a simple sheath.
All you need to do is drill the lanyard hole with boiled linseed oil as the coolant/lubricant. Boiled linseed oil is better for wooden scales as it will not damage the wood. Worked great on my condor HB.
I have a couple of Condor knives. Good performers and a great value. Might try one of their axes soon.
WHAT?? Nutn revewing a Condor? You should check out the Pack Golock,as a chopper its a BEAST. LIKE SCARY BEAST! I love mine. Anycrap, glad to see some krvs coming out of the project!!
You know it. I'll check that one out too. Knife guys started TNP and I have never forget them (as long as they watch and they do! A good knife still does it for me too and the enthusiasm is still there.
The Krv's are why I'm still hooked, and have been a Nutn fan since '08!!
I wouldn't buy much that he hasn't given a glowing review to! :)
Rock the high carbon Nutn!
I love that you're broadening to Trv's (Tomahawk review vids)!!!
nutnfancy nutn you still don't have a worksharp damm sharpening that knife would take 3 minute no joke TRY IT you will never go back for large blade trust me ;)
Review a good machete. They are very cheap and great choppers. I can get 3 Ontario U.S. 18 inch machetes in 1095 for $100.
I just got one a week ago in a gun show for 40 dollars.... Love it... Put Wilson tape on it
Nutnfancy recommending a Esee knife? does this mean their might possibly be some some more Esee reviews in the future?
Have had one for months. Freak'n boss knife!!!!!
You're better off putting a lanyard hole higher on the grip, closer to the blade, on big knives. That way if the knife gets away from you during heavy use you're less likely to have a pendulum-of-doom swinging from your wrist (Bladesports Intl World Championships found out the hard way early on).
If the steel is too hard to drill you can always drill through one of the rivets for a lanyard hole , they're guaranteed to be a softer steel.
El Salvador isn't exactly "overseas" XD, but great review and I've recently been looking at Condor and wondered why you hadn't reviewed more of them!
Same!!!
Hell, an Ontario Marine Raider would be a great competitive option too
Love the large blades but honestly, I haven't used one in over a year since I started packing an axe.
Good vids Nutn. Keep it up. I'll probably order one soon.
Cool looking knife for that price point!
That is a beautiful knife. Hell I might buy my first condor knife. I want it.
For some reason the price has gone up in the last 7 months. I bought mine for $38 free shipping on Ebay. I also gave mine a name; "Oso"
I would say the finish goes great with the wood and hockey tape.
I got mine in 2011 for 25 bucks. It's a good knife, but I wouldn't buy it again because I really don't need a "woods cleaver." But if you do, it's a good knife. Anyhow, I've chipped mine out before and it was pretty easy to touch up.
Nutn should open an "amazon store page." He gets a cut and the price is the same for the buyer.
just got mine and WOW what a blade! feels good in hand, def. needs grip tape on scales. will be heading out this weekend to play with it. keep up the great work sir. p.s.- point on mine was damaged in shipping but no biggie, i just diamond stoned it
This knife is a beast......love it.........BTW first relevant comment
a lot of the frontiersman of the late 18th to the early 20th centuries carried butcher style knives.
Great review. I've been looking at this knife for a while and this was the first user review I found that actually showed what it could do. Regarding Condor knives, have you seen the Bushlore 4.375? I would be curious to see how your TNP philosophy ranks that one as well. As for the Hudson Bay great reivew, I've added this one to the old wish list.
I'm a po' boy from 'Bama, so $$ is always a factor...that looks like great value in a camp knife, to me.
wish all your videos had a 15 minute timer sorry bro not like I don't like to hear your thoughts but 20+ minutes starts to drag on. I really like this blade a little side work on the tip portion you could alter it to make a decent skinning food prep blade, after all the wide blade would give you a place to safely put your hand to work with the tip portion only.
Why should any knife made from $2 worth of materials (if that) cost more than $50 regardless of where it's made?
+scdevon time to make, temper quality control and fuel to ship it here.
+bodomlad
How does it cost less to send something from South America than it does to produce it domestically? I'm betting it's taxes. And the unions. And mandatory insurance.
Nutn, Im wondering why you never review any Gerber knives... Made right here in Portland Or?
yes it is a fighting knife as well
+Eric McNeil
The way I see it, all full-tang knives made from this kind of high-carbon steel are fighting knives. Especially if you sand down the bottoms of the grips. Making that spot more narrow will allow you to strike with the butt of the knife more effectively. A stunned/blinded attacker is easier to kill or subdue.
Have it...love it.
nutnfancy would we ever see a Cold Steel 4-Max table top review?
i love condors
hey nutnfancy, review old ontario butcher's knives. promise, you will love it. 1095
Hey nutn will you ever review a Bradford knife. Also I love that knife I might have to look into buying one where did you find yours again?
I found the link.
If I told someone it was easy to sharpen a blade convex, it'd be on the merit of how cheap and easy it was to get sandpaper and a mouse pad, really. Apart from that, it's a lot like sharpening on a stone. Might be a little more forgiving in the way of bad technique, but maybe not.
I've heard convex grinds or scandi grinds work well for splitting.
Hey Nutn, Will we every see a review of the ESEE-6? I love mine and would like to hear your opinion of it.
chopping down a small tree with a knife seems like a good way to relieve stress and let out any anger you have. I'd be exhausted after chopping it down and splitting it for firewood.
Do you know if the spine is 90 degree? Also, can you use this to throw a spark with a ferrocerium rod? Thanks!
just two chops to a mesquite branch and the blade edge warped and bent
The edges on the spine look kinda rounded off. Will it spark a firesteel?
Good video, thank you, but El Salvador it's not over seas.
isnt this the brand the hipster in dual survival carries? seems like they make good knives
Jimmy Kimber Matt Graham is a designer for Condor, designing the Primitive Bush Knife for Condor, the one he uses on the show.
I like my Becker/Ka Bar, I thought it was a lotta knife for the money, around $70-80 I think
I bet you felt so cleaver thinking up that name Nutn.
I'll see myself out. But seriously, that thing looks mean, all business.
I remember you did a review on a kbar large survival woods blade how do you think that would stack up against this blade
Hey guys, I have a cold steel recon 1 clip point, half serrated and I was wondering if I should get it cerakoted or duracoated or just some sort of protective coating. Would that even be possible in a folder? I'm new to knives so please have mercy on my ignorance to the topic.
Nutnfany I am thinking of doing an AR-15 build is there any websites of a good trustworthy store that you know of that I can order parts from? If so I would be very happy if you can point me in the right direction.
Hey Nutn, what are you using for blade sharpening these days? I remember seeing a number of videos about this (edge pro apex) in the past but nothing recently-have you made any changes?
forty five bucks is awesome, for that knife
any experience batoning with this blade does the broadness help or hurt?
El Salvador isn't Overseas... its in central america
ALL THESE UPLOADS!
a little late on this, but anyone who has this, do you think this it would hold up to throwing?
What Nutnfancy?!