Guess what!The Chinese had just stolen two seats' design of F22 from the U.S. to develop their J-20. Oops, the U.S. didn't have a two seats' version F22 yet.
China: We have made a two seat J-20 stealth fighter. USA: That design is stolen from us. China: But you dont have a two seat stealth fighter. USA: Exactly! you stole it from us and now we dont have it.
Anyone realize that this jet is quite different from the f35. There are other 5th gen proposals that would be called copy's from a visual standpoint. The design philosophy for stealth results in similar platforms. If they did get anything from the f35, the finer workings are what's important. The shape of an aircraft is about the easiest part to figure out for stealth.
No, no, no, it is generally believed that there is still a gap of at least half a century between China and the United States, both in quantity and quality
@@蔡蔡不是台独应该争取 this belief is quite untrue. The latest generation of us airframes are the f22 and f35. Just doing the math, 50years before their release, it doesn't add up. It has never been true tbh. After Ww2, china had nothing but keep in mind that almost all American, European and soviet technologies were essentially scrapped for novel german tech, jet engines, delta wings and advanced radio technologies for example, so we can count that as square one. China would only have been as far back as the Soviet technologies they were licensed to produce (and eventually reverse engineered). We can take that as china's first step. China has caught up in most respects and is ahead in some (although those aren't directly related to the airframes themselves). Think of it this way, if it really was 50years, they'd only just start developing 4th gen
Hey remember when the Roman Byzantines stole Chinese silkworms? These thing come and go in spurts, Chinese gave us paper and gunpowder too so we don’t need to worry about it.
@@baratjanhighlights6393 It's not. The United States stole a lot of tech and how do you think the Japanese caught up to the West so fast? Technology theft and sharing is a natural part of humanity. You have to have the PS1 before the PS5 and Pong before even the PS1. Think about the guy/company who invented the first motorized car or how hard the Wright Brothers fought to protect their pattent on the airplane. China can't invade Taiwan, Russia can't invade Ukraine and the United States can't invade Iran or North Korea just like how the Soviet Union couldn't invade West Germany. This is the reality of geopolitics today and globalization. Besides, humanity is going to get more from this rivalry than from the USA being the only superpower. Side note: Think about what happened to Roman ship innovation after they counqured the entire Mediterranean. Competition is a good thing.
@@timetraveller2300i don't know whether Qin and Han were more powerful than the Romans, but I'm sure China is more weeker than the US now. Enjoy your blackouts!
@@劉樂山 LOL dude you can find videos of youtubers take nigh walks in China. there are so many these kind of videos. blackout? how brainwashing your media can be? seriously, shanghai has a population larger than your entire "country". probably China's blackouts in some small cities is a huge deal to you. 你姓刘 what an insult to the Han dynasty. shameful.
@@劉樂山 the good thing is USA is eating itself slowly. Strong mmm 🤔 maybe only strong for poor weak enemies who can’t shoot back. We need to taste one enemy who is capable to hit back home like Russia China or Iran 😅
Correction, the US has not "spent" 1.5 trillion on the F-35. That figure is called a lifetime cost estimate. In other words, the US and all F-35 operators are projected to spend $1.5 trillion over the F-35's 60 year lifespan. That figure is also adjusted for year 2070 inflation rates
How could you even manage to spend 1.5 trillion on the development of a jet plane? Like for that cost they should've developed and built space elevators to construct spaceships on Earth's orbit or something lol . I mean even if you pay your engineers astronomical sums of money for the designs and prototypes still $1.5 trillion jesus lol
@@dns7587 Read it again. Nobody spent 1.5 trillion on the F-35. Thats the ESTIMATED cost from development back in 1996 all the way up to retirement in 2070. And it is adjusted for 2070 inflation. That involves 74 years worth of fuel, weapons, maintenance, training cost, upgrades, as well as all the research and developemt. Oh and by the way the F-35 is the only weapons system that has a lifecycle costs estimate. If you did that for the B-52 it would be much much bigger since the B-52 is nearing it's 100 year anniversary in 2047 and there are still no plans on retiring it
It is very weird that many people call the new plane "J35" instead of a more likely name: J31. This new carrier fighter is developed from the design of the FC-31. Similar problem to the Type 99A tank, which is used to be called "Type 99A2" for no reason.
This propaganda video makes fake accusation to China backed with no concrete evidence of stealing F35 technology, in order to brainwash ppl into a false impression that F-35 is superior to China. F-35 itself is a failed design. Even USA's own navy prefers F-18. Just look at the bulky shape of F35, China would be the last one to steal that stupid design.
@@aburetik4866 exactly and the way politics and military contracts work they literally cannot stop funding of the F-35 or discontinue it so they will keep on producing this junk aircraft
Before J-20 all experts exposed that China is 25 years behind the US fighter technology. 5 years ago the experts have stated that China has no own jet turbine for the fighters - Today China has closed the gap and is even in some technologies advanced (hypersonic missiles/6G/AI/Robotics/photonic and graphene chips). It will be interesting to hear the experts voice coming next.
The most modern army on this planet is the US-Army and even Russia and China are better in some points but at the most points the USA is the number one on this planet! This is good because America is a democracy and Russia and China are dictatorships!
@@frankmueller6522 The United States has been responsible for the deaths of more innocent civilians than all the world put together since Pol Pot. Democracy is just a label.
@@frankmueller6522 The USA is a Constitutional Republic first and foremost, it's democracy is it's greatest impediment and is set to fragment it beyond repair.
Just from the similarity in size and outlooks, you conclude it’s a copy of f35, revealing that how you are unprofessional in aeronautics. A big difference in the amount of engines has already a totally important impact on the aircraft design, who studying aeronautical engineering will understand. Z20 is an improvement for the Blackhawk helicopter, which was sold from USA to China in the last century and is a fact.
The world doesn’t care anymore. We already know your stupid lies of copy this copy that nonsense. Keep on crying but China won’t build planes that look like trees. It’s obvious many things look similar and that’s nature. The west doesn’t like competition haha 😂
Just because of your comment we can say that you don't know absolutely nothing about you're talking about. All planes have external similarities, that's something you can't avoid when making an aircraft. But sustaning that one is the cooy of the other just because of that is absurd, an aircraft is muuuuuuch more than just a the design of his silhouette.
Look what happened to Dave chappelles social credit in America when he upset the woke folks you can just as easily get hounded for your views in America even stating facts.
@@waichungsham1578 Dave has full support of the American public. The woke dogs are just the most vocal but at the end of the day they are a very small minority in America. The problem is that they have the most of the news network on their side. That's why you see that these same news networks are losing their viewership. Also when somebody start supporting them like NBA their rating are going down faster then the Economy of Venezuela
The J-15 is based on a Su-33 prototype. The J-15 is NOT the back bone of the PLAAF, rather it is currently the back bone of the PLANAF (the naval aviation)
@@xuchen4012 likewise they have to actually make the planes, US is already moving towards the next generation while the PRC is still playing catch up. Could they surpass the USN/USAF? Sure if they spend their resources efficiently but with the PRCs woeful management of resources and yesmen even the best homegrown aircraft isn't a safe bet.
@@Jadefox32 you mean the efficient country that just left Afghanistan, or burned down its first line 1 billion dollar ship or ran a 3 billion dollar sub into a undersea mountain, that efficient country?
development on a second stealth fighter should be alot faster than the first because most of the fundamentals would already have been established. AND unlike the F35, it isn't trying to fill half a dozen roles at once
It's a multi-role fighter. Yes it's trying to fill half a dozen roles at once. Most fighters are multi role now it's too expensive to build single role dedicated fighters especially carrier aircraft.
@@drperky7008 lockheed literally bought it from Jakowlew after they developed the Jak-141 (1. Flight march 1987) How about you actually look shit up before commenting
@@acewyvern3489 If you think F-35 VTOL is 100% pure Russian technology than you’re stupid. We only bought the information for pointers and research. Don’t be so delusional. There’s no way the US would do something so Chinese.
The J-20 was tracked by a SU-33 with conventional radar. Stealth is not just the shape of the vehicle, and China is mainly interested in maintaining the appearance of strength - while being too unsure of itself to display it.
That comes from an Indian military claim right after their attempted border incursion was thwarted by the Chinese. We of course we should all take such claim as fact because there is absolutely no reason for india to lie here
@Vince Nav Why do you say he is most likely not indian? What proof do you have? On the contrary, only an indian will take indian propaganda as fact which makes him far more likely to be indian or pro-indian
You do realize that BOTH the US & China purposefuly increase their stealth jets' rcs in peace time, right? So as to not allow adversaries to accurately gauge the real rcs of their stealth fighters.
This is a pretty unlikely scenario a Chinese stealth fighter had been detected by a Russia carrier fighter. The probability of this encounter is really low.
Thats what scares me about the Chinese and what most dont understand. Its not what they have now, Its how fast they can build and how fast there military is expanding. Does it really matter how good the J35 is compared to our F35? They will build 100 of them to every 1 we can build.
96% of China is located on one side of China. Just one missile hitting their dam would cause a severe blow. Plus, most of the world sees China as the threat they are with COVID (CCP bioweapon) and other reasons. China's greatest weakness comes from within. Russia even would love to destroy China. Plus India is building a world class military and they are American allies. It would be China against the world and they would have to totally control their own population. If in the future they control the world it would no longer be worth saving.
@@herojiro31valmire32 Not true at all. Firstly America wouldn't dare firing a missile at China, this isn't a third world country like Afghanistan, unless you want HGV travelling at hypersonic speeds in your most densely populated areas, then you should stop with the big boy act. China can and will retaliate. And China's population is patriotic, if anything you should worry about America where people absolutely despise politicans and there is a protest every other month against the state for oppression. BLM and what not. India is not a threat against China, why do you think China has Pakistan as a staunch ally? It is arming Pakistan, India's main adversary, India can't afford going against China because it's inviting a two front war which it cannot handle, at all. China and Russia are allies, they have a common enemy.
The j 20 was their golden child a couple of years ago never did work the problems out. Maybe this is a great leap forward, or just another sheep in wolf's clothing
Don't forget do you know, once China fully developed the GPS jamming system, alone its door steps and in SCS and NCS all those F-35, or even higher number will be useless ---- a blind leading a blind. China does has its own GPS system for its fighters.
The designation J is only given when the design is adopted by the army. J31 and J35 were made up by some forum amateurs and by using them in your video exposes where you get your info from.
Shape of stealth fighter is mostly derived by computer simulations, so it's possible that the computer softwares used by these armies result in similar shape. Look at KF-21 by Korea or TF-X by Turkey. Don't just call it a copy when others are also making similar aircrafts with similar specs. Also F-35s are single engine, this is double.
It's the same as high tech products like iPhones / Androids. The phones are all somewhat similar looking nowadays but with a little bit of difference in the interior. I would think China would have to revamp the entire system anyways since it needs to be customized for China's uses and language. The J35 probably has very little similarities other than a few visual ones. The types of weapons they use, and the engine itself that will most likely be fitted by a domestic version since they are confident enough in their domestic engines to put the WS10 in the J20.
😃😍🌹@Lena they are technologically doing a very great design and innovation, they are making it the most modern technology and i have read reports of the pentagon, that china has surpassed the cyber technology of the usa , and soon the military technology of the usa, then they will be superpower around 2049, there is a book of china 2049 the superpower, then there will be a liberty statue in beijing in china where the new superpower will rise in the world, then the world citizens will be going to pay in yuan, you are a completely total kristal diamond 💎
All these metrics that these theories are based on have their foundation in yesterdays numbers. The world has started the great decoupling from China on an unimaginable scale. China is now descending extremely fast. They’re hemorrhage is do go their aggressive geopolitical threats to India, Russia, Taiwan, and Australia, to name a few. The world sees China as the new global threat to freedom. Authoritarian socialism “ communism,” is very oppressive. Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines, Japan, and India will dissect chinas place in the future. China will be maybe a third of what it is now. 🌹❤️🎁
@@charleyarchuleta4932 You know they've been saying that for over 30 years right? It's never rung true. I'm glad you're able to keep believing though, hope you become enlightened in the next 30 years your "theory" hasn't rung true.
another one that got it wrong, the J-15 is a copy of the Su-33, but except of the appearance, and role, thats all they have in common. The J-15 is FAR superior to the Su-33
@@andrewhomo2461 its not what i mean. The J-15 is a reverse-engineered Su-33, they studied it and built a new plane based on it, it still is a copy, but it is FAR more than that. Its a Su-33, but with the capabilities of the F-18 Its lighter than the 33, its faster, more agile, has an higher takeoff load (tho held back by the current carrier design), the avionics are arguebly top modern stuff (2019, tho propaganda so who knows) and it got an AESA radar. Compared to the Su-33, the J-15 is an spaceship
Don't forget do you know, once China fully developed the GPS jamming system, alone its door steps and in SCS and NCS all those F-35, or even higher number will be useless ---- a blind leading a blind. China does has its own GPS system for its fighters.
Emm, but isn't this how most large ships work? The source of energy could be fossil fuel or bio fuel or nuclear or whatever, but they are all used to boil water, which produces steam to drive trubines... So in that sense, the USS Gerald R. Ford would also be a STEAM POWERED carrier LOL. As many have jokingly pointed out, the pinnacle of technology is more advanced ways of boiling water, so yeah, nearly 300 years after Watt perfected the steam engine, steam power still rocks LOL.
Except they didnt call it J35, its a common thing for news/media/whatever to just come up with names on chinese Airframes, because they need a name to call it, the actual designation is FC-31, and this is the only name tht can 100% be applied
@@evergreenhills No its is still relevant. Designs are modular not as a whole. You can mix and match to your needs. Anyway the J35 is closer to design to both the F22 in my point of view. I guess the designers in CCP land watched a lot of american movies to copy it so well LOL.
Because it is not complete imitation? There are dominator technologies involved, technologies that were better than the decade old F-22 tech. F-22 is a engineering marvel for its time and father of modern stealth fighter designs. Everyone holds a healthy amount of respect for F-22 but to overlook newer stealth fighters due to necessary visual similarities is a big mistake.
@@namelessking8905 idk man, US Department of Defense called Russia a temporary problem that they will contain and wait for it to go away, but they labeled China a “civilization challenge” that can seriously threaten US’s position in the world. Why were they so paranoid with such a backward country that can do nothing to copy? Idk, it’s not like China can make 5G, quantum computing, and hypersonic missile before the US can.
@@thomaszhang3101 - China is not the first with either of those. In fact US based companies were. And yes the US does have hyper-sonic missiles. And as for the threats the US military is reporting. They will not get any funding if they say everything is great now would they?
@@namelessking8905 does US have 5G right now? Has US, no, has any country besides China successfully tested their hypersonic glide vehicle yet? Does US have quantum computing and particle radar that detects stealth aircraft? I’ve only seen China shown it. Ah, US DOT is trying to get funding isn’t it? Every single expert in Royal United Service Institute shares the view because, hmm, they want US DOT to get funding? What do they get out of it? Oh, and everyone in Asia is militarized fast with Japan building 2 quasi-carriers and Korea planning on 1, because they can sit back and count on America protecting them from no threat at all?
Whenever people thinks about how China developed tech so fast, they start to find any rumors about them cheating. I mean, even the leaders of China has engineer degree, you know it is still level of talent lead to your innovation not the lawyers.
The CCP ranks are filled with stupid people - it is the poor people who work hard who are smart with the engineering knowledge and the fat cat CCP live off them.
It's not rumors. There are numerous cases of corporate and cyber espionage by chinese state-controlled individuals and servers. You think Chinese engineers are so smart that they can suddenly go from 3rd gen tech to 5th gen tech in a decade?
China and America have different military doctrines, strategies and overall objectives. America is focused on offensive capabilities, while china is on defensive. America is trying to maintain its dominance all over the world, while china is tying to strengthen its sphere of influence in nearby regions. China knows it is incredibly hard to outmatch american military hardware and capabilities, given decades of head start america enjoys, hence they are not even trying to make something better than America's top millitary gear. All china needs is to have just enough deterrence to make america suffer unacceptable losses if a war ever occurs with china.
By the time China’s two stealth aircraft equal the F-22 and F-35 the US will have over a 1,000 F-35s and will start to buy the F-22 replacement the 6th gen NGAD fighter for both the USN and USAF (two variants plus unmanned variants).
Since no ones mentioned it yet, I just want to point out that this channel did a great job of showing the PRC map with Taiwan included :) That’s definitely + points for credibility!
Japanese used to be called copycats. USSR and many other nations later, now it is China's turn. It is high time to look at the one who often called others as copycat.
I believe that by looking at the Chinese air force and navy one forgets that real military power grows through the integration of weapon systems and weapon groups. This time, it is great the China has carriers. So they put stealth fighters on them. Very good. But do not forget, that by modernizing the missile warfare and satellite systems one could theoretically arm a carrier with observation drones and missiles could be fired from thousands of kilometers. Same goes for submarines. Do not need to be hunter-killer subs. Just recon subs. Rockets do the rest. How about that? So while the US needs carriers to deliver their birds to 3rd world countries which they can bomb to shit, China just needs a drone carrier and is in a totally different position to the US, since its potential targets are much closer. In this sense, China should also develop missile battleships.
@@draker769 Simply because in a finite world with finite resources you can only expand if you take it forcefully. Otherwise you keep diluting the resources selling again and again. That is the basic rule of market economy.
@@andrashavas There is no such thing as finite world only finite imagination. Your argument here is similar to that of Malthus and it has been proven wrong. So yeah, no need for take or be taken.
Well , america aircraft carriers were deployed fighting the vietnamese and the afghans. afghanistan is the new asian superpower, defeated tang dynasty china in 8th century, britain in 19th century, russia in 1989, america in 2021 . Defeating 4 erstwhile powers is a nice military track record vietnam defeated france in 1954, america in 1975, china in 1979 . 2nd runners up for defeating 3 erstwhile powers
Though the Chinese Navy may be the largest at the moment most of its vessels are not capable of sailing beyond the South China Sea. Not to mention that their Navy isn't battle tested. The battle hardened US Navy on the other may be slightly smaller than China's but is far more powerful and better funded. Which brings us to Naval Aviation the J-35 maybe newer but once again the Chinese have yet test land it on a moving ship. Where as the US's F-35 has already been tested is far more maneuverable than its elongated Chinese copy.
@@mcdtropicalfishandaquarium8993 lol, pal did you forgot how America and whole UN got chased away from yalu river to the Seoul by Chinese with shitty weapons?
@@wolverine9377 That's only cause we didn't plan on them getting involved. We eventually got our shit together and pushed the Chinese back across the yalu river.
@@mcdtropicalfishandaquarium8993 Haha nope pal, Once Chinese people got involved in that war, Whole UN and American were chased out of north Korean border and the remaining war was on the border of north and south. UN and American can't do a shit at that time and cease fire was declared. Go read more
@@Onigatana i can think of lots of ways, visual daytime ambush being one of them. People killed planes fine before radar was invented. Go read the air force's own test dogfight results.
its also believed to be longer and heavier. (but the F35 is already heavy enough, in China becuz of its appearance people often call it "ball lightning" instead of "lightning", so are they going to make it heavier?)
Can you say, “I just made a cheap copy of the US F-35 without saying, I just made a cheap copy of the US F-35”? They’re not even trying to hide it anymore!
You cannot "copy" a US stealth plane. The weight distribution and engine thrust differences makes any "copy" useless for practical purposes. So all this talk about copying or partial theft of the underlying tech is not worth anything at all.
j35 is an improvement over the fc31 model. Fortunately, it draws on the successful use of j20. j35 can refer to many aspects of j20, such as stealth, maneuvering, etc. j20 is good. In fact, for ourselves, we have solved the problem of whether there is a stealth carrier-based aircraft, so after the J35 is used in the aircraft carrier, we can continue to summarize experience and continue to strengthen..But from my personal point of view, I am very disappointed that the UK decided to purchase the F35 instead of developing it myself. Although the UK and the US have close relations, this is equivalent to giving up the accumulation of their own R&D technology and making their maritime air superiority subject to the US
The 35 was developed by US and the UK. They are the only first tier partner. Lockheed and BAE. Its comical you think there is any air superiority developed solely by the UK. We are sharing with the world. Not the other way around.
"successful use of j20" No, lol. While the European Union could make an appropriate rival to the F35 in pooled resources, doubtful any singular country besides the US could. Including Russia, including China. J35 is a cheap generic looking copy of American stealth fighters and even if it has stealth, there is a spectrum of quality in stealth itself. We wouldn't sell the F35 if we were worried another power could make a copy in its quality
The F35 is a multirole fighter that was designed to work with the F22, the UK should at least develop with there Eurofighter partners a stealth successor to the Eurofighter that will handle Air Superiority while the F35 does attack.
I will say this. Stealing or "copying" is one thing, but to "build" something from that information is a COMPLETELY different matter - if you don't understand how the engineering "principles" of something that works, it ain't happening. You can go out and buy a car engine and take it apart, BUT there is NOT WAY you gonna build one if you don't understand how it works. It is indeed a mystery how they moved so fast. THEY HIRED foreigner engineers and paid them BIG MONEY??????? It makes sense.
Don't forget do you know, once China fully developed the GPS jamming system, alone its door steps and in SCS and NCS all those F-35, or even higher number will be useless ---- a blind leading a blind. China does has its own GPS system for its fighters.
I don't get why people get so mad at Chinese for "copying stuff". Probably what is the most important empire of the western civilization, the Roman Empire always copied his enemies strategies, formations, innovation throughout all of his history. Copying is not stupid at all imo...
It’s arguably prettier than the f-35 with the f-22 style rudders, but let’s be honest, it’s probably not a true competitor. Though having two engines could arguably be an advantage for carrier operations. Even if one goes out, the aircraft can still fly on the second one.
A carrier aircraft has to be reliable in the harshest aviation environment possible. It has to tote a useful war load over great distances and be capable of dealing with advanced adversaries and defense systems when it enters the fight. All we really know about the J-35 is that its a knock-off of a US design and was not originally intended for carrier duty. This aircraft is a developmental step in China's naval aviation learning curve.
When you mean that J 35 is not going to be an equal to the F35, we understand that is not going to be equally disastrous and mediocre than F35. When F35 can at least sustain Supercruse Speed for more than 60 seconds without braking it fuselage, tjeny we'll talk more.
In war sure. But we're at peace and trading. To steal while maintaining diplomatic relationship and economic trade is like declaring a war. China wouldnt be so blase about stealing if it was done to them, would they?
@@edwingan1988 Was US and China at war before China started stealing stuff? China's been stealing IP from EU, Japan, Korea, as well as its greatest ally Russia who's so pissed off at China it refuses to sell latest fighter jets as China blatantly copied it for earlier J-series. Not to mention AK47, where more Chinese knock off sold to the world than there are Russian made with not a cent going to Russia. And speaking of peace, if you're talking about aggression, I could say the same for China too as it has border and economic dispute and warring tension with just about every single country it shares land, sea, and air border with. Despite what you may think of US's foreign policy, US has many allies and friends. How many allies and friends China has? Very few. Now why do you think that is?
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Guess what!The Chinese had just stolen two seats' design of F22 from the U.S. to develop their J-20. Oops, the U.S. didn't have a two seats' version F22 yet.
+10 social credit.
No they stole it from Ace Combat what do you mean
Is a joke
xD
兄弟，你讲了一个国际笑话，小心被美国的小弟攻击。😂
@@halova962 wdym, he's stating a fact
@Halova So smart and original. Nobody has ever heard the social credit before.
China: We have made a two seat J-20 stealth fighter.
USA: That design is stolen from us.
China: But you dont have a two seat stealth fighter.
USA: Exactly! you stole it from us and now we dont have it.
Anyone realize that this jet is quite different from the f35. There are other 5th gen proposals that would be called copy's from a visual standpoint. The design philosophy for stealth results in similar platforms. If they did get anything from the f35, the finer workings are what's important. The shape of an aircraft is about the easiest part to figure out for stealth.
Few people here will appreciate this comment.
No, no, no, it is generally believed that there is still a gap of at least half a century between China and the United States, both in quantity and quality
@@蔡蔡不是台独应该争取 this belief is quite untrue. The latest generation of us airframes are the f22 and f35. Just doing the math, 50years before their release, it doesn't add up. It has never been true tbh. After Ww2, china had nothing but keep in mind that almost all American, European and soviet technologies were essentially scrapped for novel german tech, jet engines, delta wings and advanced radio technologies for example, so we can count that as square one. China would only have been as far back as the Soviet technologies they were licensed to produce (and eventually reverse engineered). We can take that as china's first step. China has caught up in most respects and is ahead in some (although those aren't directly related to the airframes themselves). Think of it this way, if it really was 50years, they'd only just start developing 4th gen
@@deven6518 He was being sarcastic. Video like this truly gives China the time to develop quietly.
@@haidongzheng3009 huh, that one flew over my head, no pun intended
Hey remember when the Roman Byzantines stole Chinese silkworms? These thing come and go in spurts, Chinese gave us paper and gunpowder too so we don’t need to worry about it.
That’s the stupidest analogy I ever heard
@@baratjanhighlights6393 It's not. The United States stole a lot of tech and how do you think the Japanese caught up to the West so fast?
Technology theft and sharing is a natural part of humanity. You have to have the PS1 before the PS5 and Pong before even the PS1. Think about the guy/company who invented the first motorized car or how hard the Wright Brothers fought to protect their pattent on the airplane.
China can't invade Taiwan, Russia can't invade Ukraine and the United States can't invade Iran or North Korea just like how the Soviet Union couldn't invade West Germany. This is the reality of geopolitics today and globalization.
Besides, humanity is going to get more from this rivalry than from the USA being the only superpower.
Side note: Think about what happened to Roman ship innovation after they counqured the entire Mediterranean. Competition is a good thing.
@@WildsDreams45 i agree 100%
@@WildsDreams45 japan didn't rlly have to steal military technology since the countries were very close allies from the 60s up
@@matthewmartin7391 I'm talking about the Meji Restoration to WW2
When the Romans came up with catapults, others that were belligerent quickly developed catapults of similar kind!
在欧洲人吹嘘他们历史上的皇帝很厉害时，他们其实就已经是笑话，十万人的战争他们认为规模很大，但在中国同一时期的战争已经是20万-100人级别的战争。说明什么？
the Qin and Han were much more powerful than the Romans. hahaha
@@timetraveller2300i don't know whether Qin and Han were more powerful than the Romans, but I'm sure China is more weeker than the US now. Enjoy your blackouts!
@@劉樂山 LOL dude you can find videos of youtubers take nigh walks in China. there are so many these kind of videos. blackout? how brainwashing your media can be? seriously, shanghai has a population larger than your entire "country". probably China's blackouts in some small cities is a huge deal to you. 你姓刘 what an insult to the Han dynasty. shameful.
@@劉樂山 the good thing is USA is eating itself slowly. Strong mmm 🤔 maybe only strong for poor weak enemies who can’t shoot back. We need to taste one enemy who is capable to hit back home like Russia China or Iran 😅
Correction, the US has not "spent" 1.5 trillion on the F-35. That figure is called a lifetime cost estimate. In other words, the US and all F-35 operators are projected to spend $1.5 trillion over the F-35's 60 year lifespan. That figure is also adjusted for year 2070 inflation rates
How could you even manage to spend 1.5 trillion on the development of a jet plane? Like for that cost they should've developed and built space elevators to construct spaceships on Earth's orbit or something lol . I mean even if you pay your engineers astronomical sums of money for the designs and prototypes still $1.5 trillion jesus lol
@@dns7587
Read it again. Nobody spent 1.5 trillion on the F-35. Thats the ESTIMATED cost from development back in 1996 all the way up to retirement in 2070. And it is adjusted for 2070 inflation.
That involves 74 years worth of fuel, weapons, maintenance, training cost, upgrades, as well as all the research and developemt.
Oh and by the way the F-35 is the only weapons system that has a lifecycle costs estimate. If you did that for the B-52 it would be much much bigger since the B-52 is nearing it's 100 year anniversary in 2047 and there are still no plans on retiring it
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You are exactly right! Detractors have misstated, misquoted and literally lied at times in order to speak against the F35 program.
When you need to develop defensive systems against your neighbors and others, don't matter how you get the technology...just get it!
the cannons, the gunpowder, the compass...oh yeah...just make sure you prepare like darwinian forces compel you!
And its cheaper than trying to develop a new jet
I agree but I'm still gonna make fun of them for it. They love to talk a bit game but then pull this shit every times lol.
I agree. All is fair in love and war.. Nothing is off the books, the only goal is to win.
These babies whine that china isn't playing "fair". So mentally deranged.
It is very weird that many people call the new plane "J35" instead of a more likely name: J31. This new carrier fighter is developed from the design of the FC-31. Similar problem to the Type 99A tank, which is used to be called "Type 99A2" for no reason.
It is the Chinese themselves who (intend to) call it J-35. So better to ask them.
@@bosoerjadi2838 No, it was the PLA watchers to first call it J35.
Actually,the final name is J35--From the introductin of the designer's lecture
@@bosoerjadi2838 no not really, we call it J-31 "Falcon Eagle"
Military TV SUCH A FAKE ASS NEWS 😃😃😃🖕🖕🖕🖕!!!
一个派出军队，天天在其他国家打仗的国家的政客和人民说某个在追赶国家是狂热的好战分子
毕竟世界警察
China is not hostile?! Best joke today.
China attempts to expand and conquer is the reason why many countries around it have no choice but to improve their defense power.
@@teng-wuchang9305 India: Are you talking about me?
@@teng-wuchang9305 And just one question, which country is going to be conquered？ Korea? Russia? Mongolia? Vietnam? Or just India?
Maybe the US should spend some $$$ on network security.
Good point
lol us military spending is greater than the military spending of world top 2-10 military spenders combined.
My friend, trust me. You already have the safest network on earth. you deleted your former president's twitter, remember that? Isn't that safe enough?
This propaganda video makes fake accusation to China backed with no concrete evidence of stealing F35 technology, in order to brainwash ppl into a false impression that F-35 is superior to China.
F-35 itself is a failed design. Even USA's own navy prefers F-18. Just look at the bulky shape of F35, China would be the last one to steal that stupid design.
@@aburetik4866 exactly and the way politics and military contracts work they literally cannot stop funding of the F-35 or discontinue it so they will keep on producing this junk aircraft
Before J-20 all experts exposed that China is 25 years behind the US fighter technology. 5 years ago the experts have stated that China has no own jet turbine for the fighters - Today China has closed the gap and is even in some technologies advanced (hypersonic missiles/6G/AI/Robotics/photonic and graphene chips). It will be interesting to hear the experts voice coming next.
experts? more like high school bloggers
@John Grigg too crinj
Why is it that no western country their copycat jet?
@John Grigg Why？
China Steals The Technology of His Interest From The World.
This channel is way better than I initially thought. It’s really good
The most modern army on this planet is the US-Army and even Russia and China are better in some points but at the most points the USA is the number one on this planet! This is good because America is a democracy and Russia and China are dictatorships!
@@frankmueller6522 The United States has been responsible for the deaths of more innocent civilians than all the world put together since Pol Pot. Democracy is just a label.
It's improved a lot recently. It used to be a bit trash with bot voice & questionable research.
@@vdotme ok
@@frankmueller6522 The USA is a Constitutional Republic first and foremost, it's democracy is it's greatest impediment and is set to fragment it beyond repair.
Just from the similarity in size and outlooks, you conclude it’s a copy of f35, revealing that how you are unprofessional in aeronautics. A big difference in the amount of engines has already a totally important impact on the aircraft design, who studying aeronautical engineering will understand. Z20 is an improvement for the Blackhawk helicopter, which was sold from USA to China in the last century and is a fact.
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The world doesn’t care anymore. We already know your stupid lies of copy this copy that nonsense. Keep on crying but China won’t build planes that look like trees. It’s obvious many things look similar and that’s nature. The west doesn’t like competition haha 😂
Lmao its not trees but paper airplanes!
English 100
Just because of your comment we can say that you don't know absolutely nothing about you're talking about. All planes have external similarities, that's something you can't avoid when making an aircraft. But sustaning that one is the cooy of the other just because of that is absurd, an aircraft is muuuuuuch more than just a the design of his silhouette.
Well when yellow achieves something, white calls it stealing, when black achieves something, white calls it robbing.
Where did China steal the hypersonic cruise missile technology, the us had just failed it’s last attempt developing their own!
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Look what happened to Dave chappelles social credit in America when he upset the woke folks you can just as easily get hounded for your views in America even stating facts.
Ha ha brilliant
you do realise your credit card is kind of a ‘social credit’ right (:
@@waichungsham1578 Dave has full support of the American public. The woke dogs are just the most vocal but at the end of the day they are a very small minority in America. The problem is that they have the most of the news network on their side. That's why you see that these same news networks are losing their viewership. Also when somebody start supporting them like NBA their rating are going down faster then the Economy of Venezuela
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Russian and Iran was working on a similar project over 15years ago
but who is fielding them ?
@@luism5514 Nobody because Russia and iran are broke.
@@allenseeallendo5844 China will ramp these by mid decade
@@luism5514 It’s possible. They have the ability to do it.
LoL Iran still operates F4s in 2021.
The J-15 is based on a Su-33 prototype. The J-15 is NOT the back bone of the PLAAF, rather it is currently the back bone of the PLANAF (the naval aviation)
J15 is NOT based on Su-33, but on Ukraine T-10K which is actually the navy version of Su27.
@@xuchen4012 That is why i wrote "Su-33 PROTOTYPE".
@@xuchen4012 likewise they have to actually make the planes, US is already moving towards the next generation while the PRC is still playing catch up. Could they surpass the USN/USAF? Sure if they spend their resources efficiently but with the PRCs woeful management of resources and yesmen even the best homegrown aircraft isn't a safe bet.
@@Jadefox32 you mean the efficient country that just left Afghanistan, or burned down its first line 1 billion dollar ship or ran a 3 billion dollar sub into a undersea mountain, that efficient country?
@@Jadefox32 the US is still using F18 as its backbone of the carrier strike force, because it's cheap and efficient comparing to F35
development on a second stealth fighter should be alot faster than the first because most of the fundamentals would already have been established. AND unlike the F35, it isn't trying to fill half a dozen roles at once
for the company that develop it (chengdu), it's their first. because j20 was made by different company (shenyang).
Your head will roll when we take back the united states from the communists
@@AR15andGOD lol. Maybe after the US tears itself apart in civil war 2.0
It's a multi-role fighter. Yes it's trying to fill half a dozen roles at once. Most fighters are multi role now it's too
expensive to build single role dedicated fighters especially carrier aircraft.
Bruh it’s a multi role fighter? That’s literally what it’s for.
1.7 trillion total cost for the f35 program and the Chinese just steal it, love these guys
It's not better than the f 35
@@johnlop7763 doesn't matter
@@jepstein3207 and it look like a knock off f 22
@@johnlop7763 it looks like a knockoff f35
@@jepstein3207 more like*
wait till they find out that the F-35 is using Russian VTOL technology lmao
😔 I’m sorry about your brain condition
@@drperky7008 lockheed literally bought it from Jakowlew after they developed the Jak-141 (1. Flight march 1987)
How about you actually look shit up before commenting
@@drperky7008 lol, you got owned bro..
@@acewyvern3489 I'm sorry for your bad reading compression.
@@acewyvern3489 If you think F-35 VTOL is 100% pure Russian technology than you’re stupid. We only bought the information for pointers and research. Don’t be so delusional. There’s no way the US would do something so Chinese.
我可以告诉你们，根本没有J20 ,没有J35,都是电脑CG,别担心，我们爱好和平，我们的目标是星辰大海！
stop bullshitting
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The J-20 was tracked by a SU-33 with conventional radar. Stealth is not just the shape of the vehicle, and China is mainly interested in maintaining the appearance of strength - while being too unsure of itself to display it.
That comes from an Indian military claim right after their attempted border incursion was thwarted by the Chinese. We of course we should all take such claim as fact because there is absolutely no reason for india to lie here
@Vince Nav Why do you say he is most likely not indian? What proof do you have? On the contrary, only an indian will take indian propaganda as fact which makes him far more likely to be indian or pro-indian
You do realize that BOTH the US & China purposefuly increase their stealth jets' rcs in peace time, right? So as to not allow adversaries to accurately gauge the real rcs of their stealth fighters.
Look up Luneburg lens and radar reflectors. Stop falling for indian lies
This is a pretty unlikely scenario a Chinese stealth fighter had been detected by a Russia carrier fighter. The probability of this encounter is really low.
Wow, they must have built day and night in a superhuman effort to build such a large Navy so fast.
I hear they have people working 7 days a week or everyday for several years for 16 to 18 hours long and several shifts.
@@underdogtv2855 it's called 'people rest, the machine doesn't', 3 shift of different people operates the machine in a 24/7 manner.
Thats what scares me about the Chinese and what most dont understand. Its not what they have now, Its how fast they can build and how fast there military is expanding. Does it really matter how good the J35 is compared to our F35? They will build 100 of them to every 1 we can build.
96% of China is located on one side of China. Just one missile hitting their dam would cause a severe blow. Plus, most of the world sees China as the threat they are with COVID (CCP bioweapon) and other reasons. China's greatest weakness comes from within. Russia even would love to destroy China. Plus India is building a world class military and they are American allies. It would be China against the world and they would have to totally control their own population. If in the future they control the world it would no longer be worth saving.
@@herojiro31valmire32 Not true at all. Firstly America wouldn't dare firing a missile at China, this isn't a third world country like Afghanistan, unless you want HGV travelling at hypersonic speeds in your most densely populated areas, then you should stop with the big boy act. China can and will retaliate. And China's population is patriotic, if anything you should worry about America where people absolutely despise politicans and there is a protest every other month against the state for oppression. BLM and what not. India is not a threat against China, why do you think China has Pakistan as a staunch ally? It is arming Pakistan, India's main adversary, India can't afford going against China because it's inviting a two front war which it cannot handle, at all. China and Russia are allies, they have a common enemy.
If the F22 and the F35 had a baby.
😊
This J-35 looks tough, now let's see how it performs under water. The F-35 seems not so good on that aspect lol.
50 cent army troll
It will be worse....
F 22 Cant even land on carrier I bet it’s more garbage even above water
@@l0z586 J-20 can't either......
lmao
If you purchased an F-35 on Wish I guess this would be it.
US spent trillions for f35, China spent couple billions for j35, China still have money left to continously build up China high-speed train.
The j 20 was their golden child a couple of years ago never did work the problems out. Maybe this is a great leap forward, or just another sheep in wolf's clothing
but its toys unlike f22 and f35
@fuckyoutubepolicy staff no. the stealth coating technology was likely stolen by china in the F35 hack along with sensor fusion technology.
Don't forget do you know, once China fully developed the GPS jamming system, alone its door steps and in SCS and NCS all those F-35, or even higher number will be useless ---- a blind leading a blind. China does has its own GPS system for its fighters.
I really enjoy watching the performances of people who bite their teeth at the rise of China but have no idea what to do, hahaha
Have no idea what to do... kind of like the Chinese pilots who participated in war games over in Korea last year..
Finally a military news channel that isn't "Hurr Durr Amerika best"
The designation J is only given when the design is adopted by the army. J31 and J35 were made up by some forum amateurs and by using them in your video exposes where you get your info from.
Shape of stealth fighter is mostly derived by computer simulations, so it's possible that the computer softwares used by these armies result in similar shape. Look at KF-21 by Korea or TF-X by Turkey. Don't just call it a copy when others are also making similar aircrafts with similar specs. Also F-35s are single engine, this is double.
I would say it took more of a design spec from the f22.
Chinese knock off.....looks like the raptor and f35 mashed together
If Argentina gets this fighter then Britain is in trouble over the Falklands.
When j20,j35,f22,f35 meets bird as in bird strike , it’s goodbye to plane, pilot, bird
Military TV: How dis China developed the J-35 so fast?
PLA: The Secret Ingredient is Crime
It's the same as high tech products like iPhones / Androids. The phones are all somewhat similar looking nowadays but with a little bit of difference in the interior. I would think China would have to revamp the entire system anyways since it needs to be customized for China's uses and language. The J35 probably has very little similarities other than a few visual ones. The types of weapons they use, and the engine itself that will most likely be fitted by a domestic version since they are confident enough in their domestic engines to put the WS10 in the J20.
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😃😍🌹@Lena they are technologically doing a very great design and innovation, they are making it the most modern technology and i have read reports of the pentagon, that china has surpassed the cyber technology of the usa , and soon the military technology of the usa, then they will be superpower around 2049, there is a book of china 2049 the superpower, then there will be a liberty statue in beijing in china where the new superpower will rise in the world, then the world citizens will be going to pay in yuan, you are a completely total kristal diamond 💎
All these metrics that these theories are based on have their foundation in yesterdays numbers. The world has started the great decoupling from China on an unimaginable scale. China is now descending extremely fast. They’re hemorrhage is do go their aggressive geopolitical threats to India, Russia, Taiwan, and Australia, to name a few. The world sees China as the new global threat to freedom. Authoritarian socialism “ communism,” is very oppressive. Vietnam, Indonesia, Philippines, Japan, and India will dissect chinas place in the future. China will be maybe a third of what it is now. 🌹❤️🎁
@@charleyarchuleta4932 You know they've been saying that for over 30 years right? It's never rung true. I'm glad you're able to keep believing though, hope you become enlightened in the next 30 years your "theory" hasn't rung true.
@@Lena-vw6ye never heard that till
Just recently. China was an unhindered ascension
another one that got it wrong,
the J-15 is a copy of the Su-33, but except of the appearance, and role, thats all they have in common. The J-15 is FAR superior to the Su-33
Well one was created in 1990-s, another is build in early 2010-s. What would you aspect. It is still a copy, though.
@@andrewhomo2461 its not what i mean.
The J-15 is a reverse-engineered Su-33, they studied it and built a new plane based on it, it still is a copy, but it is FAR more than that.
Its a Su-33, but with the capabilities of the F-18
Its lighter than the 33, its faster, more agile, has an higher takeoff load (tho held back by the current carrier design), the avionics are arguebly top modern stuff (2019, tho propaganda so who knows)
and it got an AESA radar.
Compared to the Su-33, the J-15 is an spaceship
Don't forget do you know, once China fully developed the GPS jamming system, alone its door steps and in SCS and NCS all those F-35, or even higher number will be useless ---- a blind leading a blind. China does has its own GPS system for its fighters.
The weak copy the strong but when your the strongest, you don’t got nobody to copy from
On a brand new STEAM POWERED air craft carrier. Way to go there, Admiral Dum Phuk!
Emm, but isn't this how most large ships work? The source of energy could be fossil fuel or bio fuel or nuclear or whatever, but they are all used to boil water, which produces steam to drive trubines... So in that sense, the USS Gerald R. Ford would also be a STEAM POWERED carrier LOL. As many have jokingly pointed out, the pinnacle of technology is more advanced ways of boiling water, so yeah, nearly 300 years after Watt perfected the steam engine, steam power still rocks LOL.
The shell might look alike of the F 35..but not the internals...
Funny the PLA called it the J35. Must be a tribute to the F35 for being the blueprint for it.
Except they didnt call it J35, its a common thing for news/media/whatever to just come up with names on chinese Airframes, because they need a name to call it, the actual designation is FC-31, and this is the only name tht can 100% be applied
@@acewyvern3489 Nice to know. Thanks.
J35 has two engines while F35 only gets one engine. So F35 blueprint is useless per this point of view.
@@evergreenhills No its is still relevant. Designs are modular not as a whole. You can mix and match to your needs. Anyway the J35 is closer to design to both the F22 in my point of view. I guess the designers in CCP land watched a lot of american movies to copy it so well LOL.
@@penguinlin85 I mean, physics are limited, so there's a limited number of possible shapes for a Stealth fighter.
Bloody hell they couldn’t even come up with a Original Name for the bad Counterfeit.
Thieves never prosper.
Chill out lady
@@waichungsham1578 wong tong ming mong i eat dogs
Well I don't know why they changed the name from J-31 to J-35...
@@shaun1165 they Trolling us bad now the cheeky barsted’s ……and I’m a man baby
@@shaun1165 they didn’t. It is still FC-31
It looks like a F-35 with F-22 stabilizers
Well, at least someone put the 325 billion F35 research data into use
Wow. An unashamed rip of the F22. Neat.
they are angry ！
good job China ！
In terms of Chinese military technologies sounds like they want to start a clone war.
No days Im sure there are Americans that will help China steal secrets !!
@@TOMAS-lh4er Chinese american for sure.
@@jehamoonsoon2847 That's good !! HaHA
do you want to lock up all Chinese americans? oh wait you aren't white.
@@timetraveller2300 FYI , I meant there are most likely , CCP members in the US that will pass on secrets , not The Chinese American Citizens !!
When we had the third and the forth Stealth Fighter, the world would be quiet.
U.S roasting su-33: bad Fly-by wire. China: Hold my 二锅头
The J-35 evokes 1 thought..."Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery," ha. Why don't they just call it the F-22 2.0?? 🤔😂
Because it is not complete imitation? There are dominator technologies involved, technologies that were better than the decade old F-22 tech.
F-22 is a engineering marvel for its time and father of modern stealth fighter designs.
Everyone holds a healthy amount of respect for F-22 but to overlook newer stealth fighters due to necessary visual similarities is a big mistake.
@@thomaszhang3101 - Why should the US worry about a country that copies planes that are over 20 years old now?
@@namelessking8905 idk man, US Department of Defense called Russia a temporary problem that they will contain and wait for it to go away, but they labeled China a “civilization challenge” that can seriously threaten US’s position in the world.
Why were they so paranoid with such a backward country that can do nothing to copy? Idk, it’s not like China can make 5G, quantum computing, and hypersonic missile before the US can.
@@thomaszhang3101 - China is not the first with either of those. In fact US based companies were. And yes the US does have hyper-sonic missiles. And as for the threats the US military is reporting. They will not get any funding if they say everything is great now would they?
@@namelessking8905 does US have 5G right now? Has US, no, has any country besides China successfully tested their hypersonic glide vehicle yet?
Does US have quantum computing and particle
radar that detects stealth aircraft? I’ve only seen China shown it.
Ah, US DOT is trying to get funding isn’t it? Every single expert in Royal United Service Institute shares the view because, hmm, they want US DOT to get funding? What do they get out of it? Oh, and everyone in Asia is militarized fast with Japan building 2 quasi-carriers and Korea planning on 1, because they can sit back and count on America protecting them from no threat at all?
Whenever people thinks about how China developed tech so fast, they start to find any rumors about them cheating. I mean, even the leaders of China has engineer degree, you know it is still level of talent lead to your innovation not the lawyers.
The CCP ranks are filled with stupid people - it is the poor people who work hard who are smart with the engineering knowledge and the fat cat CCP live off them.
It's not rumors. There are numerous cases of corporate and cyber espionage by chinese state-controlled individuals and servers. You think Chinese engineers are so smart that they can suddenly go from 3rd gen tech to 5th gen tech in a decade?
@@derek96720 and also, the designs are almost the same - a straight rip off. China also does this with cars.
Plus 1000 social credits for making Taiwan part of China
J-15 : aye i copy from SU-33
J-35 : ummmm
F-35 : e x c a u s e m e
China and America have different military doctrines, strategies and overall objectives. America is focused on offensive capabilities, while china is on defensive. America is trying to maintain its dominance all over the world, while china is tying to strengthen its sphere of influence in nearby regions. China knows it is incredibly hard to outmatch american military hardware and capabilities, given decades of head start america enjoys, hence they are not even trying to make something better than America's top millitary gear. All china needs is to have just enough deterrence to make america suffer unacceptable losses if a war ever occurs with china.
您是真正明白人。
By the time China’s two stealth aircraft equal the F-22 and F-35 the US will have over a 1,000 F-35s and will start to buy the F-22 replacement the 6th gen NGAD fighter for both the USN and USAF (two variants plus unmanned variants).
lmfao..usa cant even build 400 f35s for use....yes there are over 800 f35s for the entirity of nato..the usa barely has 400
Good work comrades!
Since no ones mentioned it yet, I just want to point out that this channel did a great job of showing the PRC map with Taiwan included :)
That’s definitely + points for credibility!
Son: Mom I want F-35
Mom:. We have F-35 at home
F-35 at home:
Japanese used to be called copycats. USSR and many other nations later, now it is China's turn. It is high time to look at the one who often called others as copycat.
I believe that by looking at the Chinese air force and navy one forgets that real military power grows through the integration of weapon systems and weapon groups. This time, it is great the China has carriers. So they put stealth fighters on them. Very good. But do not forget, that by modernizing the missile warfare and satellite systems one could theoretically arm a carrier with observation drones and missiles could be fired from thousands of kilometers. Same goes for submarines. Do not need to be hunter-killer subs. Just recon subs. Rockets do the rest. How about that? So while the US needs carriers to deliver their birds to 3rd world countries which they can bomb to shit, China just needs a drone carrier and is in a totally different position to the US, since its potential targets are much closer. In this sense, China should also develop missile battleships.
Yes, still a lot of things to do. But why would everyoe want a hot war between US and China
@@draker769 Simply because in a finite world with finite resources you can only expand if you take it forcefully. Otherwise you keep diluting the resources selling again and again. That is the basic rule of market economy.
@@andrashavas There is no such thing as finite world only finite imagination. Your argument here is similar to that of Malthus and it has been proven wrong. So yeah, no need for take or be taken.
@@draker769 The battle between the world's number one and the world's number two
Well , america aircraft carriers were deployed fighting the vietnamese and the afghans.
afghanistan is the new asian superpower, defeated tang dynasty china in 8th century, britain in 19th century, russia in 1989, america in 2021 . Defeating 4 erstwhile powers is a nice military track record
vietnam defeated france in 1954, america in 1975, china in 1979 . 2nd runners up for defeating 3 erstwhile powers
The verdict is still open as no one knows the J35 electronics and technology as Chinese tech is now ahead in many areas .
Good luck
C'mon man, approaching parity to the USA in some areas..
Though the Chinese Navy may be the largest at the moment most of its vessels are not capable of sailing beyond the South China Sea. Not to mention that their Navy isn't battle tested. The battle hardened US Navy on the other may be slightly smaller than China's but is far more powerful and better funded. Which brings us to Naval Aviation the J-35 maybe newer but once again the Chinese have yet test land it on a moving ship. Where as the US's F-35 has already been tested is far more maneuverable than its elongated Chinese copy.
America thought similarly in Korean war.
And we know what happened
@@wolverine9377 We forced the Cease fire in Korea. And that was after both sides fought eachother to a stalemate.
@@mcdtropicalfishandaquarium8993 lol, pal did you forgot how America and whole UN got chased away from yalu river to the Seoul by Chinese with shitty weapons?
@@wolverine9377 That's only cause we didn't plan on them getting involved. We eventually got our shit together and pushed the Chinese back across the yalu river.
@@mcdtropicalfishandaquarium8993
Haha nope pal,
Once Chinese people got involved in that war,
Whole UN and American were chased out of north Korean border and the remaining war was on the border of north and south.
UN and American can't do a shit at that time and cease fire was declared.
Go read more
F35 is so advanced, it can't even hold up against an obsolete F16 in multiple test encounters.
You know there's know way an f16 would be able to sneak up on an f35? It would be destroyed from range.
@@Onigatana i can think of lots of ways, visual daytime ambush being one of them. People killed planes fine before radar was invented. Go read the air force's own test dogfight results.
What ever they say its COPY of F35 they just change some of it but its so obvious, NO originality.
F-35 from Wish 😂
Keep up the good quality content
The main difference between the two is the US F35 is single engine while the Chinese J35 is twin engines.
The f35is real a great.Ccp35 sucks ass and is fake paper plane
@@georgepantazis141 butt hur much
its also believed to be longer and heavier.
(but the F35 is already heavy enough, in China becuz of its appearance people often call it "ball lightning" instead of "lightning", so are they going to make it heavier?)
什麽也指别人是偷，那可否把那原裝的放出來，好讓全世界去評評理到底偷了些什麽！如果網絡攻擊可偷那麽多東西，中國應該早就強大過尾國了！
Who stole all our tech! Hunter!? Really! For 12 pieces of silver?
I’m sure the US spy right? Wrong, US is the best spying culprit.
You just contradicted yourself.
Hmm I have totally not noticed that the F35 has been put into a printer and and come out as the low quality made in China J35.
Earlier us stole the info of soviet and russian weapons
Now its chance of us to expierence info stole exp.
Tit for tat
😅😈😈
Often imitated, but never duplicated.
Can you say, “I just made a cheap copy of the US F-35 without saying, I just made a cheap copy of the US F-35”? They’re not even trying to hide it anymore!
in other words, china remade the F22, but reskinned and renamed it with carrier capabilities.
It's Chinese It will work till evening 😂
Taliban>> USA
Like the Boeing max 🤔😂
You cannot "copy" a US stealth plane. The weight distribution and engine thrust differences makes any "copy" useless for practical purposes. So all this talk about copying or partial theft of the underlying tech is not worth anything at all.
These idiots always go like this: look, it’s got two wings and look like, must have stole ours.
Looks like China also likes how the F-22 looks. However there is a lot more much more to that plane than what can me seen.
F-22确实好看
Can't be too stealthy, they got only 1 carrier to launch off.
Find the carrier, find the J-35.
We already got another generation stealth fighter otw
wow, if they wanna steal and copy at least use a different number ..
j35 is an improvement over the fc31 model. Fortunately, it draws on the successful use of j20. j35 can refer to many aspects of j20, such as stealth, maneuvering, etc. j20 is good. In fact, for ourselves, we have solved the problem of whether there is a stealth carrier-based aircraft, so after the J35 is used in the aircraft carrier, we can continue to summarize experience and continue to strengthen..But from my personal point of view, I am very disappointed that the UK decided to purchase the F35 instead of developing it myself. Although the UK and the US have close relations, this is equivalent to giving up the accumulation of their own R&D technology and making their maritime air superiority subject to the US
The 35 was developed by US and the UK. They are the only first tier partner. Lockheed and BAE. Its comical you think there is any air superiority developed solely by the UK. We are sharing with the world. Not the other way around.
"successful use of j20" No, lol. While the European Union could make an appropriate rival to the F35 in pooled resources, doubtful any singular country besides the US could. Including Russia, including China. J35 is a cheap generic looking copy of American stealth fighters and even if it has stealth, there is a spectrum of quality in stealth itself. We wouldn't sell the F35 if we were worried another power could make a copy in its quality
The F35 is a multirole fighter that was designed to work with the F22, the UK should at least develop with there Eurofighter partners a stealth successor to the Eurofighter that will handle Air Superiority while the F35 does attack.
Thief who steals from another thief has a thousand years of forgiveness
Even copying such tech needs some nerve
Comparing J-35 to F-22 and F-35 is like comparing Sinovac to Pfizer and Moderna.
Sinovac is good tho
@@adrianoon1127 Indonesia want 3rd done only pfizer and moderna tho😂
@@aairaabraham so Indonesia is good tho
The comments show a lot of US believers’ ego have been shattered
I will say this. Stealing or "copying" is one thing, but to "build" something from that information is a COMPLETELY different matter - if you don't understand how the engineering "principles" of something that works, it ain't happening. You can go out and buy a car engine and take it apart, BUT there is NOT WAY you gonna build one if you don't understand how it works. It is indeed a mystery how they moved so fast. THEY HIRED foreigner engineers and paid them BIG MONEY??????? It makes sense.
Don't forget do you know, once China fully developed the GPS jamming system, alone its door steps and in SCS and NCS all those F-35, or even higher number will be useless ---- a blind leading a blind. China does has its own GPS system for its fighters.
I don't get why people get so mad at Chinese for "copying stuff". Probably what is the most important empire of the western civilization, the Roman Empire always copied his enemies strategies, formations, innovation throughout all of his history. Copying is not stupid at all imo...
If I were the US I would copy the Chinese hypersonic glider vehicle as well.
The name is not J-35, the name is supposed to be Shen Yang FC-31
It’s arguably prettier than the f-35 with the f-22 style rudders, but let’s be honest, it’s probably not a true competitor.
Though having two engines could arguably be an advantage for carrier operations. Even if one goes out, the aircraft can still fly on the second one.
Agreed, imo China will always lag behind the US as long as they rely on stolen intellectual property over their own R&D.
Yeah... No those aircrafts are not made to work with one engine, if one goes out it's down till it gets repaired again.
@@somedudes6455 what I mean is if it has an engine out while airborne it can probably still limp home on the other one.
@@Indarow yeah probably, but it's not gonna be able fight with any effectiveness whatsoever.
@@somedudes6455 true, but that’s not my point, if the f-35’s single engine fails, it’s a glider, and not a very good one at that.
A carrier aircraft has to be reliable in the harshest aviation environment possible. It has to tote a useful war load over great distances and be capable of dealing with advanced adversaries and defense systems when it enters the fight. All we really know about the J-35 is that its a knock-off of a US design and was not originally intended for carrier duty. This aircraft is a developmental step in China's naval aviation learning curve.
It’s not cheating it’s being smart.
How original China, so innovative
Wow💪
When you mean that J 35 is not going to be an equal to the F35, we understand that is not going to be equally disastrous and mediocre than F35. When F35 can at least sustain Supercruse Speed for more than 60 seconds without braking it fuselage, tjeny we'll talk more.
Fact is the f35 is the most surviavable fighter.
@@gregoryyarmarkov5626 In your dreams, maybe, but reality is way far from your opinion.
All is fair in love & war. In war if you can kill the enemy, what is stealing?
In war sure. But we're at peace and trading. To steal while maintaining diplomatic relationship and economic trade is like declaring a war. China wouldnt be so blase about stealing if it was done to them, would they?
America at peace? You're kidding!
@@edwingan1988 Was US and China at war before China started stealing stuff? China's been stealing IP from EU, Japan, Korea, as well as its greatest ally Russia who's so pissed off at China it refuses to sell latest fighter jets as China blatantly copied it for earlier J-series. Not to mention AK47, where more Chinese knock off sold to the world than there are Russian made with not a cent going to Russia.
And speaking of peace, if you're talking about aggression, I could say the same for China too as it has border and economic dispute and warring tension with just about every single country it shares land, sea, and air border with. Despite what you may think of US's foreign policy, US has many allies and friends. How many allies and friends China has? Very few. Now why do you think that is?
@@Xentradi97 the free world got James Bond
Xentradi97 That's a very good point
Looks like a mix of F-35 and F-22
sounds nice
should it look like a refrigerator, lmfao!